The Worst ID in Limbus Company.

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  • Опубліковано 29 сер 2023
  • I talk a lot about bad IDs on this channel, but this will be the last time for...at least 1 video. The question of worst ID is somewhat hotly debated, so I figured I would throw my hat in the ring and give my thoughts and perspective.
    And, no I will never stop bullying Zwei Sinclair.

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  • @therealESGOO
    @therealESGOO  10 місяців тому +234

    Charge Team Video is coming next week, I needed time (and still need time really) to script and research for it. I hope you all enjoy this video in the meantime.

    • @CyberNinja04
      @CyberNinja04 10 місяців тому +1

      Take your time. We're used to content drought.

    • @GA7273
      @GA7273 10 місяців тому +3

      The longer one thing takes, the better it becomes. Take your time esgoo!

    • @HarambaeXelonmuskfans
      @HarambaeXelonmuskfans 10 місяців тому

      @@GA7273 >yandere simulator

    • @VonSilvermont
      @VonSilvermont 10 місяців тому

      Charge teams my beloved

    • @natqan
      @natqan 10 місяців тому

      LES GOO!!!! CHARGE TEAM!!

  • @FourElemental
    @FourElemental 10 місяців тому +1053

    The worst ID is absolutely Dante, all he does is suffer and do no damage

    • @coinpoffer
      @coinpoffer 10 місяців тому +127

      he revives

    • @wendewang673
      @wendewang673 10 місяців тому +51

      they

    • @banelingfangs6609
      @banelingfangs6609 10 місяців тому

      @@wendewang673Dante is a He.. it’s implied he was a dude before all of this

    • @ZackReap
      @ZackReap 10 місяців тому +34

      ​@@wendewang673dont they refer dante as he not that?

    • @playday663
      @playday663 10 місяців тому +114

      Their support passive is op wdym

  • @alostcosmonaut4064
    @alostcosmonaut4064 10 місяців тому +459

    I feel like Sloshmael was some act of cosmic balance for how good the other Ishmael IDs are.

    • @adam17tt
      @adam17tt 10 місяців тому +54

      Then where's Hong Lu's balance???
      (Also Faust but we know she is special)

    • @shiguriyamamo6730
      @shiguriyamamo6730 10 місяців тому +13

      Somehow she managed to get an even weaker ID that does exactly what another of 00 ranked ID does.
      But just better.

    • @Soni38900
      @Soni38900 10 місяців тому +58

      @@adam17tt I am convinced Hong Lu will never have a bad ID. His W Corp ID makes bad charge IDs incredible, his Kurokumo Wakashu has very good damage and okay clash, Ting Tang is Ting Tang, it's just pretty solid and K-corp can solo MD2H more easily than any ID. As for Liu, I use him in burn teams and that's funny. Even base Hong Lu is crazy good at keeping high sanity.

    • @pen_lord8520
      @pen_lord8520 10 місяців тому

      @@Soni38900Ting Tang is literally Kurokumo, but better in every way.
      Incredible DMG dealer plus fixes the biggest problem of Kurokumo - clashes.

    • @someoneusedtobeknown2645
      @someoneusedtobeknown2645 10 місяців тому

      Mmmmmm thiccshmeal

  • @Late0NightPC
    @Late0NightPC 10 місяців тому +438

    It really feels like Chef Gregor was destined SPECIFICALLY for the Chicken event and nowhere else. His kit is built with high speed, low clash, paralysis, and wanting to target high bleed count enemies, that all combined together to make his "thing" that he goes first during a turn, targets an enemy, then a slower ally aggro's away the actual clash, allowing Gregor to "prepare the dish" for his ally with paralysis to weaken them for the ally, or extra bleed count to make them really hurt once the clash starts. Which, that was a big aspect of the Chicken event too, the Bongys were insanely tough to clash with, encouraging you to have slower allies aggro away clashes, and stagger the enemy before they could even try to clash anyone.
    But with only 3-7 speed, it means he REALLY needs bind to actually consistently go faster than other Sinners and the enemies, given 3-6 is the standard DPS speed range, and most actual high speed characters are in the range of 4/5-8, which his only source of bind is his S2. Even his "random debuffs GO" base Ego can't inflict Bind whatsoever. And, all of this is in addition to the problem of "Why not just use someone who can do all that, but without so many hoops and also can clash?" Plenty of other Ids can inflict paralysis next turn, can clash well in the first place, and even assuming Gregor gets his +2 bleed count on an enemy with an assload of un-triggered bleed, counting the damage from his skills themselves, other IDs can can still deal way more damage, all at the same time.
    He's an interesting concept for a support, literally a sous-chef that prepares the enemy for the "main chef" to deal with. But he sacrifices being an actually strong ID in order to embody that concept so "perfectly" that he ends up being outclassed at his own job by other IDs that aren't even trying to do that(7YiSang, NFaust, uptie4 Wfaust). Even KKRyoushu does a better job at "going first to soften enemies up for allies to clash with later", and she's basically designed to be a pure damage dealer unit!

    • @Schiso13
      @Schiso13 10 місяців тому +47

      Aggro wasn't even a thing back then, so he was just used because you got more event points by having him in your team, that and for legerdemain spam

    • @therealESGOO
      @therealESGOO  10 місяців тому +73

      I hadn't even considered the thematic parallels. That's kinda cool that he does prepare the enemy to be 'cooked'. It's a shame he is trash in spite of what could have been an interesting design philosophy. Don't know why he was the first one to have Myo's Prowess at home either...super strange.

    • @bouledeflipper
      @bouledeflipper 10 місяців тому +10

      To be honest I can't hate chef Gregor. Yes he's practicaly useless in a fight nowadays (or very niche at the very least), but his support carried me through the early days of Mirror dungeon hard mode, by giving me a lot healing with chef Ryoshu. (back when I wasn't using a full Liu team).

    • @GhostKing-bq4sh
      @GhostKing-bq4sh 10 місяців тому +6

      Chef Greg is why I was so happy we didn't need the Boatworks IDs in our battle party for the bonus he was so worthless vs the boss I had him strictly on bongy killing duty which he still had issues with.

    • @unskilledrandom
      @unskilledrandom 10 місяців тому

      Sorry to erm actually a week old comment but erm actually the person you replied to didn't mean the aggro mechanic added recently. Rather they were referring to the ability to direct an enemy's skill with a clash and hit under it with a second skill. When gregor and the other id are both faster than the target you can choose which clashes, and if gregor is faster than the other id his unopposed attack will go first and apply paralyze, allowing the second id to get an easy attack

  • @Kylotl
    @Kylotl 10 місяців тому +241

    Mariachi Sinclair my beloved... it's such a funny identity, and has one of my favorites since the beginning, but it suffers so much from the lack of aggro and the fact that his skill 3's really fun gimmick does nothing when you have the starlight reward in MD2. The changes made to defensive skills early on in Limbus really hit funny evade tanking hard, especially since Mariachi Sinclair has far too low speed to get his evade to go early in normal fights.

    • @Shadow6OO
      @Shadow6OO 10 місяців тому +12

      At least he's uniquely suited for sinking MD2H. He's a solid option as one of the 2 starter 00 IDs as he has the best sinking application of any of the 00s, has a S3 with really good, free clash power, and is tanky enough with high health (200+) with blunt resistance so that even if messes up and takes damage he'll be able to take much more of a beating than others.

  • @DonQuixoteSupport
    @DonQuixoteSupport 10 місяців тому +128

    2:36 love how Prwden is being treated like voldemort by the PM community

    • @random_bs4322
      @random_bs4322 10 місяців тому +14

      honestly i just use it to see how to build teams when i forget what id does what (also thanks to it i realised we also need more ammo ids)

    • @lachlanmccormick3486
      @lachlanmccormick3486 10 місяців тому +42

      I'm out of the loop, what happened?

    • @rx-75guntank12
      @rx-75guntank12 10 місяців тому +12

      Rightfully so, they have never made a good tier list in any game they cover

    • @therealESGOO
      @therealESGOO  10 місяців тому +43

      Thank you for censoring their name.

    • @Late0NightPC
      @Late0NightPC 10 місяців тому +82

      ​@@lachlanmccormick3486 Not any one specific thing, but just, they do a terrible job at a lot of things, including not actually reviewing the IDs in their review sections, and really don't seem to understand many of the IDs properly. As just one example, their entire review for why Nfaust is in A tier, is entirely talking about how terrible she is compared to her other IDs now that uptie 4 have come out. It explains literally nothing, seems to misunderstand why she's still a very strong ID, and somehow has both "Decent clash" as a positive at the same time as "struggles with clashing".
      Given how genuinely their best usage as a website is just for quickly seeing all of a Sinner's uptie 4 skills and stats on a single page, the community naturally has quite the stockpile of laughs to be made at their expense.

  • @oniono.3350
    @oniono.3350 10 місяців тому +113

    Sloshmael has no upsides, you can only use her as a punching bad when you dont have enough good ids

  • @leaftorch1127
    @leaftorch1127 10 місяців тому +72

    Sloshing Ishmael felt like Project Moon didn’t really know what her kit should’ve been so they stow it in a pot and sprinkled random stuff until it birthed this terrible ID.
    I think it would’ve been cool if Slosh Ishmael borrowed similar mechanics from Fairy Gentleman like she could’ve give your team morale boost for huge damage potential but suffer from tipsy later and a side of (actual) tremor support. Maybe morale boost could also affect the enemy side as well like how the talisman from talisman Sinclair work as both a positive and negative effect. I really wished that Project Moon put more thought into her ID and I hope that her kit gets reworked someday.
    Good video as always ESGOO

  • @noishfanboy1141
    @noishfanboy1141 10 місяців тому +135

    I like how the community actively despises prydwen to the point of refusing to say their name when discussing the tier list

    • @Blood_M4ster
      @Blood_M4ster 10 місяців тому +39

      Is it that bad ? I remember checking it once or twice when I started playing a while back so I'm not sure what's the deal.

    • @anboard
      @anboard 10 місяців тому +1

      Who's that

    • @noishfanboy1141
      @noishfanboy1141 10 місяців тому +58

      @@anboard prydwen is the name of a website that has a limbus company analysis and tier list section. Despite being the most popular limbus website for some reason it's famously inaccurate when it comes to judging character strength

    • @anboard
      @anboard 10 місяців тому

      @@noishfanboy1141 thx

    • @thiscallsforboldaction1103
      @thiscallsforboldaction1103 10 місяців тому +26

      @@Blood_M4ster the list is managed by one person so there are no 2 angles on it which leads to things like RB chef ryoshu being lower than KK ryoshu on launch and a lot of other dumb things. Fun discord members there, but i wouldn't recommend it as the ultimate tierlist for limbus

  • @MantaRain
    @MantaRain 10 місяців тому +30

    Well I do basically agree with you about Sloshmael. I will say there is 1 small thing she has going for her. She is basically a strict upgrade to Base Ishmael(not a high bar I know). They both have the same damage type, sin affinities, and they both do tremor, but sloshing has an easier time fueling her base EGO with having gloom and wrath as skills 1 & 2 respectively. There are very few situations where you'd pick Slosh over LCCB, but hey it's something

    • @NeoAya
      @NeoAya 10 місяців тому +12

      I guess she's supposed to be a reference to LobCorp in that case, since you have no real reason to use Fairy Festival's ego outside of a direct upgrade for base agents early in the game

  • @mewsalk4776
    @mewsalk4776 10 місяців тому +24

    LCB Sinner Don Quixote is clearly the best ID in the entire game, beating the likes of TingTang Gang Gangleader Hong Lu, Kurokumo Hong Lu, The One Who Shall Grip Sinclair, Faust, W Corp Cleanup Agent Don, W Corp Cleanup Agent Ryoshu, R Corp Pack Rabbit Heathcliff, Liu Association Ishmael, Molar Boatworks Ishmael, Molar Office Outis, Zena, The Red Mist, My Mother, Me, Doncat, Zenamaze, ...

    • @brunpoon875
      @brunpoon875 10 місяців тому +5

      mewsalk, stop, we cant simp Don in our conner, dont bring Don here, ESGOO'll roast her in his base id review later

    • @mewsalk4776
      @mewsalk4776 10 місяців тому +5

      @@brunpoon875 NUH UH

    • @therealESGOO
      @therealESGOO  10 місяців тому +8

      Base Don could take down the Library, why would I roast her?

  • @Aceleo209
    @Aceleo209 10 місяців тому +22

    FINALLY I'll now know who's worse than slopmael
    Edit: NOOOOOO

  • @TheLastCurryRice
    @TheLastCurryRice 10 місяців тому +26

    It's going to be epic when a new EGO comes out that randomly fits some of these IDs so well that they become good.
    That last part you said about new players, there are SO many players out there that like Mariachi because he's funny and saved their ass in Canto 3; they probably have a special place for him in their hearts.

  • @Just_A_Mate
    @Just_A_Mate 10 місяців тому +10

    A upload from ESGOO is a good day
    Edit: Lol I was so confused at first before the twist was waiting for it

  • @Dropleto
    @Dropleto 10 місяців тому +25

    the fake out on who the real worst was got me ngl. I wasn't keeping up to date on whos uptie 4s were good, so i just assumed when you didnt show sloshing at first i assumed got a good ut4... at least ishmael's 000s are all really good

    • @aisir3725
      @aisir3725 10 місяців тому +4

      All other 00s are great too, lccb is bread and butter of tremor and rupture teams while also being able to paralyze enemies if you give her haste, meanwhile sheesh becomes id with damage and clashing close to that of nsinclair at below 50%

    • @adam17tt
      @adam17tt 10 місяців тому +1

      00 has so many strong ids that can compete with 000. I built a rupture team with LCCB Ishy, Talisman Sinclair, Seven Ryosyu, Seven Yi Samg, Seven Outis, Rosespanner Gregor and K corp Hong Lu. It contains 5 00 and this team does rupture really well. Tbf I get Thunderbranch at the start, but I think you'll be fine without it.
      Also all 00 in the team are already great, sans maybe Gregor outside rupture team.

  • @drenin777
    @drenin777 10 місяців тому +8

    You really had me there with Sinclair, you made me forget how bad Sloshmael is. No ID should want to lose a clash, just to inflict a little extra status. Its a shame as she has such a neat S3 animation for such a bad ability.

  • @MagiKAL98
    @MagiKAL98 10 місяців тому +11

    Was disappointed by the lack of Zwei Sinclair slander, but faith was restored with Sloshmael brutality

  • @VastoLordeSusano
    @VastoLordeSusano 10 місяців тому +87

    Honestly one of the best LB content creators on the platform.

  • @yeen.7209
    @yeen.7209 10 місяців тому +1

    I'M STILL INSTANTLY CATCHING THE UMINEKO MUSIC oh my god i love it.
    anyway, great and entertaining video as usual. i never really would've thought about what the worst ids in the game are, and the results.. aren't all too shocking when put into light.

  • @Glassy936
    @Glassy936 10 місяців тому +16

    Honestly, you deserve a raise.

  • @Hebleh
    @Hebleh 10 місяців тому +49

    I had no idea Chef Gregor was considered so bad.. at the very least, whenever I can get him, I do want to use him as a support, so it still works out.
    Can't wait for a video going indepth on base IDs! Love these indepth videos. Also great touch using Umineko music for Gregor's segment :D

    • @therealESGOO
      @therealESGOO  10 місяців тому +7

      He's the Magical Gregor Chef after all...

    • @ANightattheOpera28
      @ANightattheOpera28 4 місяці тому

      Oh same. I used him a ton early on and did pretty well.

  • @GlueEater-ix9gl
    @GlueEater-ix9gl 10 місяців тому +24

    Tbh it the hardest thing abt finding bad ids is that you can make them work if you try hard enough xD

    • @META_mahn
      @META_mahn 10 місяців тому +2

      Really in that case then, the way you find something "bad" is to find the ones you need to try the hardest to make them work. Ex: I have the jankiest team as my main content clearing team, featuring Spicebush, Liu Ishmael, and NClair, with W Don and whoever else I feel like bringing that day (most of the time it's Rsault or Liu Hong Lu) and a lot of the time the extra ID barely does anything as the main four, each with a *completely different synergy* end up doing perfectly fine together, clearing me through all the main content of the game. I've never really experienced any genuine difficulty except for 5 seconds vs Kromer, but then I realized "Oh, I just need to learn to clash LOL" and she died horribly.

    • @sleep3417
      @sleep3417 5 місяців тому

      ​@@META_mahnspicebush, liu ish and nclair are all rather amazing. It should be quite hard to lose much with some of the best ID's.

  • @coffeegroundsforsnorting6957
    @coffeegroundsforsnorting6957 10 місяців тому +25

    So I enjoy Chef Gregor, do I think you were too hard?
    No I think you went too easy.
    Chef Gregor is an event ID that you have to earn, every other ID shown that could be worse you can at least get at any time. You have to earn your Sous Chef so that he can be benched while the other event ID Chef Ryoshu can actually do the cooking. What actually annoys me is that he's so close, SO CLOSE, to being just an average Gregor ID. If that Skill 3 was 1 coin power higher he basically be the same as his fellow IDs who all have 3-4 coins , and be on par with Lui Gregor at least, but no he has to have 1 coin power with a caveat that might as well not exist.
    Yes he has an even better version, purely because Lust is more common, at the moment who know of the future, of the sin affinities, but the fact that the only reason you can want him is something EVERYONE already has lowers him in my eyes. The only thing he's got going for him is that his animations look and sound so good, but that's not a reason to use him.
    Wait that's the reason I use him.
    ...On paper I can see why Project Moon wanted his coins to be lower, all those effects do look good, but they forgot that if the skill can't clash for at least a 50/50 it's probably not going to be used in human fights and for abno. Also being good in Abno fights I don't think is an upside to anyone, I can't think of an ID that's bad in those type of fights.

    • @adam17tt
      @adam17tt 10 місяців тому +1

      Just to answer last question: "better at abno fight" translates to "suffer from no focused clash" which is a problem many ids have. It's the human fight that has major flaws, not that ids are better or worse in human fights.
      I think human fight now is miserable and should have an option to be focused, I want to rip my hair out every time I see my W Ryosyu can only S3 a staggered enemy but not ones that clash for like 25.

  • @HawkBreland
    @HawkBreland 10 місяців тому +2

    ESGOO, more like LESGOO (sorry lol) cuz I've really been enjoying these! if you enjoy making content then keep up the good work cuz these have been great. you having fun with what you do is most important for me tho, don't want you to have a bad time or feel like you're forced to make stuff. thanks for the videos!

  • @hollow4284
    @hollow4284 10 місяців тому +2

    I don't know if someone asked you already, but a Tier list Thread IV for EGO would be amazing, the identity one was really helpfull, amazing vids as always

  • @allegar
    @allegar 10 місяців тому

    i love your content bro.. you're the peak of content creation in limbus

  • @kamilslup7743
    @kamilslup7743 3 місяці тому +2

    that yield my flesh to claim their bones event helped out LCCB rodion a bit since stuff like jun's "Rules Of The Backstreets" is a defense skill
    that event also helped BL outis by providing more units that give others poise (mainly BL don and meursault)

  • @CEO-of-Disgrace
    @CEO-of-Disgrace 10 місяців тому +2

    An amazing video, just as always! I really love your content, keep up the good job! In my opinion Mariachis Sinclair is better than the Chef Gregor. Not by much, but still
    Los Mariachis Sinclair sure is pretty awful. However, in his defense I want to say that at least he can be used as a glorified utility dispenser for sinking teams. In a setup with Spicebush Yi Sang + Molar Boatworks Ishmael he kinda rocks. In my opinion he is just excruciatingly niche. I would rather use him at the last floor of my MD2H run than G-corp Outis simply because they both are unable to clash properly most of the time, so at least he has more HP and applies sinking. I mean, at least be unironically helpful at some rare occasions :/

  • @HitoriRavenn
    @HitoriRavenn 10 місяців тому +4

    While some of the things in defense of Sloshmael have been said already, I think it's worth compiling some of the upsides. Most of these actually are regards to a Tremor team, since I don't think she holds up anywhere else as a tank or as a unit. She does generate her own EGO resources, which if you look at a full tremor team (and not including just splashing good units irrelevant to the status) none of them generate wrath except base Heath and N Don. While her rewards for eating hits or losing clashes are minimal, she does give some support to losing while also just simply being a tank in the archetype. She also clashes better than any other Tremor unit with her S3, so if you needed to win without using an EGO, it's there and you'd live with it griefing you if you need to win that clash. There's also good synergy here with activating Snagharpoon early for both losing and as a clash winning EGO button if needed.
    In comparison, LCCB has some huge upsides but equally mediocre rolls and the same offence level. Only her S2 is a big win without tremor already stacked, and her passive gives Tremor generation equivalent to Slosh on wins (assuming all hits). Her guard roll is lower and she's ammo limited. I understand why LCCB is run and I don't think it's invalid, but in the restricted analysis of Tremor units only, I don't think the comparison is as big a distance as a it seems. Still, generally speaking the Rosespanner/Tremor units don't clash that well and it's nice to have a tank working at least some of the time to redirect.
    I'd probably vote for BL Outis, as a standalone unit she doesn't build her own Poise well at all, nor generate EGO resources for her own ego. She loses on utility for passives since trash encounters rarely need the boost and if you're in the final stretch for bosses, you probably don't need it at all. Clashing is decent but nowhere near good, and it's too hard to trigger anything she has going on. Bad alone, bad in her archetype, bad as support. You'd have to sell me hard to convince me she's better than Slosh in her own archetype, putting aside that Tremor is quite bad if you commit fully to it.

  • @wefeu4360
    @wefeu4360 10 місяців тому +2

    And remember
    Hong Lu has no bad id's,only situational :^

  • @aremamarang
    @aremamarang 7 місяців тому

    Coming here after watching your railway video is very interesting

  • @Danslam_
    @Danslam_ 10 місяців тому

    In was very concerned when I saw your top 3 but was relieved when I saw the fat suit

  • @crudlucasconsigliere4084
    @crudlucasconsigliere4084 2 місяці тому

    Knew it couldn't be Chef Gregor, he actually has another use: sexy.

  • @sealoverlord5120
    @sealoverlord5120 10 місяців тому +6

    Great video! although i DID expect the twist at the end as a once LCCB ishmael addict, sloshmael is straight up just a horrible version of LCCB ishmael with slightly better clashes and slightly better tankyness, yet still is somehow 60 times worse, I honestly wish she wasnt a tremor unit and instead was a fairy wine unit, because getting drunk sounds like a fun mechanic instead of...that but yeah, very hyped for the next video! good luck making it, for i WILL, be stating my opinions on YOUR opinions whenever it comes out! MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA *insert evil laugh*
    Anyways, good luck with the video! and be sure to take breaks whenever you need to, because as a bit of a workaholic myself...god i wish i understood how to take breaks xD

  • @SonicDen220
    @SonicDen220 10 місяців тому +1

    I have a soft spot for sloshing Ishmael because it was one of the first IDs I got when I started playing and was using through most of chapter 3. It was even the first ID I uptied to tier 3 of all things.
    Eventually though, I stopped using it because her other IDs are much better and more fun to use (Liu my beloved).

  • @achaoticprince5114
    @achaoticprince5114 10 місяців тому +1

    I was really surprised slosh wasn't mentioned until the end because my top 3 worse IDs were literally your listing lol. I seriously don't get what they can do to her besides making her skills do aoe but for some reason they made her a potency on clash loss which tbh is horrible because it's literally just better to land a normal hit than lose the clash for the amount of potency you get.

  • @hword5notsoofficial803
    @hword5notsoofficial803 9 місяців тому +3

    I think if sloshmael had an ability that also added rupture COUNT based on the current tremor count, the ability to turn tremor into rupture would have some merit. As it stands though, not really

  • @ssharkiggo6432
    @ssharkiggo6432 5 місяців тому +1

    ok, but it's ishmael covered in slime

  • @KLProject867
    @KLProject867 10 місяців тому +3

    Feel like Mexican Sinclair is a unit built to spend sinking tbh. Multihit that help prolong sinking abit and keep in mind that back then there're no sinking deluge yet.
    Now that I think about how come it sinking that get stuff like sinking deluge considered sinking is pretty easy to trigger and some stuff deserve it more like burn.

  • @kielbasamage
    @kielbasamage 10 місяців тому +2

    >Me, an ishmael simp sitting patiently knowing damn well Nickolodeon Gak Ishmael is the worst
    You fool! I've outsmarted your outsmarting!

  • @CritHit
    @CritHit 10 місяців тому

    I was -waiting- for the reveal of who the worst was, and I was not disappointed, lmao.

  • @aidanayerslol
    @aidanayerslol 4 місяці тому +2

    my first 2 cool IDs were sloshing ishmael and mariachis sinclair
    i clicked this vid to see if they were any good

  • @Mushezable
    @Mushezable 10 місяців тому

    I was waiting so long for the TRUE worst real. I love the ID though cause it amuses me.

  • @hansramos5944
    @hansramos5944 10 місяців тому +1

    New video idea: Beating md2 (idk if hard is possible) with the worst IDs in Limbus Company

  • @freezew101
    @freezew101 10 місяців тому +2

    3:39 This actually only makes her s1 roll an 11 as the english text is incorrect (it grants +1 coin power instead of +3 in KR and JP).
    Other than that great vid!

  • @zealotoftheorchard9853
    @zealotoftheorchard9853 10 місяців тому

    Base ID Heathcliff has carried me trough so much I recite Body Sack's voice line with him on instinct....

  • @TheXBladeist
    @TheXBladeist 10 місяців тому

    You know, I've been making a case of chucking shards to the void every other week by making them Sinclair ones, since I observed none of his stuff is worth bringing up to uptie 4. Seeing that mariachi isnt really that great is neat, even tho I like the style it brings.

  • @hescoming4544
    @hescoming4544 Місяць тому

    Bro definitely has a sloshmeal body pillow

  • @Brigtzen
    @Brigtzen 10 місяців тому

    i have yet to see ANYONE make a tierlist of all available ID's. Like literally noone has made that into a video yet.

  • @burgerpolice1193
    @burgerpolice1193 7 місяців тому

    I see sunshower Heathcliff in unfortunate cases and I suddenly am feeling very violent

  • @Alyssciel
    @Alyssciel 10 місяців тому +2

    I remember trying to use Mariachi Sinclair against Kromer back when the game first released. I switched to Base Sinclair and had a better time.

  • @L16htW4rr10r
    @L16htW4rr10r 10 місяців тому +1

    The moment when two of my fave ID is here QAQ (Chef Gregor and Sloshing Ishmael)

  • @paps3060
    @paps3060 10 місяців тому +5

    you can't just say perchance

  • @helpme3230
    @helpme3230 10 місяців тому +4

    personally i still don't see an use for bl outis, if sloshing ishmael can at the absolute least function as a tank while bl outis struggles to function as anything without needing someone else to fuel an ego for her i'd say she takes the cake, mariachi sinclair and chef gregor manage to be better because their support passives are perfectly usable and have a place

    • @therealESGOO
      @therealESGOO  10 місяців тому +2

      It kinda comes down to BL Outis being just below average as a damage dealer. Her skill 3 is just not great, not the worst. Her 2 slash DMG up means she deals even better damage…it’s weird to talk about when the ID is still really bad, but her clashing is far better and her damage is more reliable even without the poise. That’s why she was an easy elimination, she’s consistently below average. The other two (three) don’t even have that luxury sometimes.
      Hopefully that makes sense.

    • @helpme3230
      @helpme3230 10 місяців тому

      @@therealESGOO it probably does

  • @DenkiinArt
    @DenkiinArt 10 місяців тому

    Another banger from the GOAT

  • @KingNoobsDomain
    @KingNoobsDomain 10 місяців тому +2

    im going to bet the worst id is chef gregor

  • @GhostKing-bq4sh
    @GhostKing-bq4sh 10 місяців тому +2

    While I do not think Sloshy Ishy isnt the worst ID because of her okay damage output I do agree that if an ID is going to have effects based around losing clashes those effects need to be actually worthwhile and not inflicting weak status effects.

  • @Man_Person_Best_Hero
    @Man_Person_Best_Hero 10 місяців тому

    One of my friends unironically uses Chef Greg for support in battle. I pray for her sanity sometimes

  • @treedude4246
    @treedude4246 10 місяців тому +1

    You can take mexiclair from my cold dead hands
    I love that boy hes out here evading brazen bull

    • @sinistralreckoning
      @sinistralreckoning 10 місяців тому

      I three-manned Bull and Mexiclair was the last man standing, dodging around like a toreador

  • @Autotoaster
    @Autotoaster 10 місяців тому +4

    I use Sloshmael, and currently it's my only uptie 4 (fite me!).
    In most of my teams I have her and Rosespanner Rodya. This way, on top of tanking, passively, Slosh helps boosting Rodya's 2 and 3 by slowly building up Tremor.
    Also Slosh's 3 is a decent clasher, 22 is nothing to sneeze at. None of the others you mentioned can really clash imo.
    Sloshmael is a punching ball, and she's good at that. You're probably right about her not fitting a Tremor team but... Frankly, I wouldn't play a pure Tremor team.

    • @snipermagoo
      @snipermagoo 10 місяців тому +2

      Yeah, I really don't think she's worse than Mariachi/Chef. The whole tremor thing is a bit of a headscratcher but she's a decent, functional tank who at least rolls double digits in clashes. She also has a gloom s1 and a wrath s2, and if you want both of those together purely for sin gen she's the only useable option. Her overall problem though is, 'what team wants this ID on it, but not one of Ishmael's other ID's?' Tremor? No. Charge? LOL. Sunshower? No. Sinking? LOL. Etc.

    • @theoldmanofthemountain7514
      @theoldmanofthemountain7514 7 місяців тому +1

      I used Sloshmael on Canto V and helped a lot to cover when there is impossible clash wins. At uptie 4, even if she loses a clash she gives debuffs to the enemy, making it kinda good to cover others and still build that tremor up. And if she doesn't do any damage, she wins a shield so... It's bassicaly meat fooder for that kinda of clashes.

    • @Autotoaster
      @Autotoaster 7 місяців тому +2

      ​@@theoldmanofthemountain7514 It's clever, but I'm chuckling because on top of having to face her demons, you've forced Ishmael to face them while using the Ego she hates the most.😁

  • @JavierGarcia-su5vn
    @JavierGarcia-su5vn 10 місяців тому +1

    6:38 Magical Gouda Chef??

  • @Disorder2312
    @Disorder2312 10 місяців тому +3

    From a reasonable video it turned out to be extremely biased at the end. Of course the problems of Sloshing Ishmael you've mentioned are legit and very bad, but at least she can clash better that those previous guys, and well, i guess she can tank. She is certainly bad, but I wouldn't say she is the worst among the worst. That was just your outrage on her. Sure, her usage is stupid, but i'd still rather use her than those previous candidates.
    By the way, i'm surprised that Red Sheet Sinclair didn't make it here. Even after the fix, he is still terrible. I don't remember ever seeing anyone using him.

    • @Silancet
      @Silancet 10 місяців тому

      ???red sheet sinclaire is the premiere rupture team member, his rolls are all decent, what the fuck are you on about???

  • @bellsbunny
    @bellsbunny 6 місяців тому

    With MD3 - specifically picking what kind of gifts you get & being able to upgrade them - Mariachi Sinclair has put in a LOT of work in my sinking team for it. I still have no use for chef greg and there's even less of a use for his passive now with half the cast having budget fluid sacs that heal HP for everyone.

  • @medicalricky
    @medicalricky 10 місяців тому

    I was so dissapointed when you said Mexican Sinclair was worst. I was thinking "he didn't even mention goo Ishmael"

  • @Realag666
    @Realag666 10 місяців тому

    I always use Mariachi Sinclair for his support passiv in MD2 with the charge team that I currently use.

  • @EbinDesu
    @EbinDesu 5 місяців тому

    Chef Gregor might be a bad ID but the art is so hot it automatically makes it a 10/10 for me

  • @leon6sean241
    @leon6sean241 26 днів тому

    Was BL Outis nerfed? I thought she gained +1 coin power if at 5+ poise, not +3.

  • @afishyfishh
    @afishyfishh 10 місяців тому +1

    0:40 i'm pretty sure there is not a single bad hong lu id that exists

  • @Hifuutorian
    @Hifuutorian 5 місяців тому +2

    I like Sloshmael :(

  • @kakoytazabar
    @kakoytazabar 10 місяців тому +1

    "Has this ever happened to you: you are talking to your friend about Limbus Company...". < - Already unrelatable.

  • @thatrandomguyontheinternet2477
    @thatrandomguyontheinternet2477 10 місяців тому +1

    The entire reason i have zwei rod is cause shi Ishmael in a wrath team exists

  • @RikuMatsuoSF9
    @RikuMatsuoSF9 10 місяців тому +1

    Although I really like Ishmael, I agree that Sloshmael is the worst ID. I was surprised at first that you didn't even mentioned her in the first half. Lol

  • @Ramsey276one
    @Ramsey276one 4 місяці тому +1

    0:18 So, how's New Guinea?

  • @liuxingyan7788
    @liuxingyan7788 10 місяців тому +1

    I want Mariachi Sinclair to be buffed so badly cause I love those maracas but there’s almost nowhere for me to use him 😭😭😭

  • @creeperbros-dg9jr
    @creeperbros-dg9jr 10 місяців тому +1

    The only use for sloshmael is replacing all her skills with skill 3 in mirror dungeon and using her as a clashing slave(or solo hard mode bull if you are mentally insane)

  • @nevermindme3714
    @nevermindme3714 10 місяців тому +1

    Umineko music in a Limbus video ❤

  • @lithreeum
    @lithreeum 10 місяців тому +8

    I'm going to take this moment and kick Sloshmael while it's down: No, everyone actually *does* has a better alternative than Sloshmael and her name is Shi ishmael, the free 00 literally everybody gets during the tutorial.

    • @MALware7170
      @MALware7170 10 місяців тому

      unless they skip the tutorial on accident, I got shishmael a long while after the tutorial because of that

  • @tapseymoth803
    @tapseymoth803 10 місяців тому +1

    One thing I wanna say about mariachi sinclair that is hilarious for fights where you can target. Just don’t clash with his attacks and only clash with the evade. It lets him solo way more contrnt than he really should ^^

  • @anubiscerberus4348
    @anubiscerberus4348 10 місяців тому +1

    Nah nah nah nah, we all know you wanted to put Sunshower Heatcliff at the top- (???).

  • @kitsunami7251
    @kitsunami7251 2 місяці тому

    Wouldn't it be funny if they made Sloshmael gives bonus points in the upcoming walpurgis as it seems to be fairy-themed? Ahaha, that would be hilarious, wouldn't it...

  • @g4ro7
    @g4ro7 10 місяців тому

    great vid

  • @goop4923
    @goop4923 10 місяців тому

    she might get buffed in the future pls project moon let us slosh

  • @ekimmak
    @ekimmak 10 місяців тому

    10:30 You know, I had legit forgotten about this one by the time we got to the fake ending.

  • @EmptyPrayer
    @EmptyPrayer 10 місяців тому

    Website that shall not be named?

  • @solemnlament
    @solemnlament 10 місяців тому +3

    6:38 umineko music 👀

  • @barsni4779
    @barsni4779 10 місяців тому

    Now you have enough ID's to form worst team ever.

  • @Dealve
    @Dealve 10 місяців тому

    I played up through chapter 3 using both mariachi sinclair and BL Outis back on launch lol

  • @cereal8193
    @cereal8193 10 місяців тому

    whats the matter with the site that must not be named

  • @CyberNinja04
    @CyberNinja04 10 місяців тому +1

    Yoooo, an upload

  • @wafflehousemafia1747
    @wafflehousemafia1747 9 місяців тому

    I still would have said chef greg just because we were basically forced to use him during the event

  • @crazydrman
    @crazydrman 10 місяців тому +2

    holy shit Umineko music

  • @jakcesleepingrn5739
    @jakcesleepingrn5739 6 місяців тому +1

    2:34
    "(This is actually a really clever joke, since LCCB Rodion was here before any of the other IDs in this particular section, this is a subtle reference to the fact that LCCB stands for the Limbus Company Cleanup Before team. So it makes sense and is in character for her to be here forst. To be fair, you need a very high IQ to understand and appreciate ESGOO videos, leave a fomment and subscribble if you got the joke!)"
    ©ESGOO

  • @kzhasimp3018
    @kzhasimp3018 9 місяців тому

    I just wish to say that Mariachi Sinclair carried my way through all up to Chapter 3 before N Corp Sinclair on Season 1 💔

  • @isidorbanuta4765
    @isidorbanuta4765 10 місяців тому

    one funny thing about Mariachi and ANY Id where a big part of their appeal is their defensive skill....that update...that one update that made it so your defensive skill only activates if the guy who you are targeting one-sides you and only afterwards works on following attacks (but defensive skills have very low priority so chances are you aren't gonna activate it before taking damage) was such a stupid decision. Before, defensive skills were "combat start", someone one-sides you, they activate. Now a lot of Ids, like Mariachi Sinclair lose their only reason for being present in human fights. BTW the reason it was changed is likely because a lot of powerful IDs, like R corp Heathcliff had 4-14 evades and could solo encounters by evading the entire enemy team for 3+ turns until they had the skill slot requirement to win

  • @gigablast4129
    @gigablast4129 10 місяців тому +2

    is prydwell really that bad i use them to check what id is top.also as expected slosh is worst,not that id use any of them since i have most of the top tier ids

    • @therealESGOO
      @therealESGOO  10 місяців тому +1

      Their bottom tier is honestly alright. The problem is who they place near the top, and their reasoning for most of the placements not really making sense, at least in my opinion.
      An example that really irks me is Ncliff being below NRodion, and Nfaust being in that same tier as NRodion. Makes you wonder if they even play the game…

  • @joby5838
    @joby5838 10 місяців тому +1

    "Skill 1 isn't known of being good"
    Brb need to clash x-17 skill with R Ish 3-17 s1

  • @ekimmak
    @ekimmak 10 місяців тому

    It took me a few tries to catch the text you put up at 2:34. Even with playback speed 0.25.

  • @Sir_AIonne
    @Sir_AIonne 10 місяців тому +2

    Well, Sloshish really is not the worst ID. She has:
    1) 57/98 place as avg clasher. And s3 also works against most enemy skills in MD2 Hard.
    2) Very solid def stats (best one Def stat among ALL 00 and is equal to 000 tanks (40)), top 5 HP (199) on par with base Salt
    3) easy-triggered passive skill
    4) Noice tremor-rupture support passive
    5) aggro
    6) 2-7 speed
    7) passive damage boost for the team for losing clashes without any condition
    Btw, Tremor is bad because most enemies have only 1-2 stagger thresholds, and you can't always setup big damage in stagger. After that, Tremor doesn't do anything if some characters don't have procs from burst. So her S3 is just another way to spend Tremor Count (sadly, that team is not really ready yet).
    While BL Outis and Sinclair have a lot lesser positive sides...
    And Sloshma>N Corp Salt no diff
    It sounds like a Skill Issue.

  • @DDismas
    @DDismas 9 місяців тому

    sloshmael is a rupture unit, she's not a tremor one
    she's a more extreme rosespanner gregor that bursts insignificant amounts of tremor in a non-tremor focused team into a way higher and more significant rupture count

  • @monte8901
    @monte8901 Місяць тому

    I'm here after chef Gregor nerf!