Your testimony is exactly what I went through and I still have not found a true church to fellowship with other brothers and sisters in Christ. I'm on my own just like you with Christ and my relationship with Him is far better then having a relationship with any others because I know I will get the ultimate true answers that I need to be saved. I can feel His present the moment I wake up in the morning helping me facing another day where He guides me in the right path and protect me from the evil one and when I go to bed at night where He is there looking after me when I'm asleep. Oh what a beautiful feeling to know that He will always be there whenever I need Him and that I'm over joy to have found Him and to loved Him for what He has done for me on the cross where from now on I will dedicate my life to serve Him faithfully to the end. Praise and Glory to God through His Son Jesus Christ. Amen.
Amen. It is all about Jesus and following Him. Wherever 2 or 3 gather in His name, THAT IS CHURCH. We keep going in the name of OUR LORD. He cannot fail. thank you for sharing this small testimony.
Amen 🙏🏼Thank you for sharing your testimony. This walk sure is a lonely one. I’m a new Christian married to an unbeliever. My only family member that claims to know Jesus is OSAS and lives exactly like the world except prays before meals. I joined a local church for fellowship only to find they believe that false doctrine as well. I feel blessed that when I started my walk with the Lord 2 years ago, one of the first pastors I started watching on UA-cam was Francis Chang who said “ READ THIS BOOK “ and that’s exactly what I did. I read the Bible myself before ever stepping foot in a church and am so THANKFUL to Jesus who has been guiding my steps and leading me ever since. I look forward to your videos...keep them coming ♥️🙏🏼
I too was the same. I need to get out of church to understand the gospel and to be truly born again only through Jesus Christ and not through church buildings. And today there is a move of God and is calling the remnant all over the world and so I heard about this intercessors in my own country and started to really align myself to them, to pray and weep for our nation and to pray for righteousness and may the destiny of each person each nation may be fulfilled, what it is to be a true follower and disciple of Jesus in these endtimes. I thought it’s fine for me to be alone and to a christian but there is joy and encouragement when we worship the Lord our God with His true followers. And it’s out there, there are many out there. We will know them by there fruit. I wish I could give you names but I know the Lord will lead us if we pray to align ourselves with other remnants that He will not wish us to be alone in our faith but be encouraged by one another. Sometimes through a church building where we can have fellowship and sometimes through online..
It is a beautiful thing when true followers of Christ fellowship together. The TRUE CHURCH will always prevail and the gates of hell will not prevail against it. Nice to meet you and God bless you
My wife and I do gather with brothers and sisters when we can, to pray and break bread. When Jesus is the focus of all members, and where 2 or 3 gather in His name THERE is CHURCH. May God bless you
I just want to share whats in my heart because I became bitter and judge churches especially evangelicals and need to repent and mourn over and over again for the sin of judging pastors and leaders in the Body of Christ. But as I now began to understand it is not I who judges the church or church buildings or names, rather, we continue to press forward because it is the Lord’s desire that none should perish.
Brother! My soul is overwhelmed with so much emotion this very moment. I watched your video about why you left the Catholic Church. So I decided to view more of your content and found this video. It was like the Father speaking directly to me. I have had the same experience you have had. I left Organized Christianity about 3 years ago for the very reasons you did. I have stood alone with my wife in prayers, and fastings longing for fellowship with like minded men. Contending with Church members to no avail. I am begining to see that I truely am not alone. God is doing something special in this season. He is calling his sheep out! Today (you) have given me strength and comfort. Today I know for sure that I am not a lone Ranger and there are others who see..Is there a way to contact you privately? I think there may be much for us to discuss. God bless you Man of God.
I totally agree brother. Apostles didn't have this mindset. They shared everything and lived together the same. Don't worry, You are not alone, me too, I struggle with that. I think, servants of Christ in a sense shouldn't have a house here on earth, we shouldn't have a house here on earth, but always moving, and running the race to the Kingdom of God.
praise JESUS ! i thanking JESUS for his spirit and this message !! IN 1984??? JESUS called me to follow HIM with Instructions -- for the Baptist church i was leaving!!!! - for many many decades ! i had to hear~~ others chide me back to the - gathering where JESUS isn't LORD of the services !- with the LINE - Forsake not the assembly ! HOW EVER !!! JESUS is for the Broken hearts and i needed deliverance! also i had to repay a student Loan for Nursing school!! i learned step by step!! too only PHOCAS ON JESUS ! THANKING JESUS for this Channel and messenger! i have been -- over the course of time - invited to leave and not come back to several ??? churches!!! seems i just do not fit in the private Club that gathers in these haunts they call churches!! JESUS stated we are the Temple of GOD! and in conclusion - JESUS ??? did not call anyone to be christian he calls for us to be DISCIPLES! PRAISE JESUS FOR HIS PRECIOUS HOLY SPIRIT OF SCATHING TRUTHS!
I have too experienced this for years now. I really began to think something was wrong with me. Things, in the beginning , of going to a new church building, but soon I realize there is no depth. People can call off football stats or the players creditials more than they can about what Jesus said. The false gospel that they have believed on requires no change at all. Recently was even attacked from a pulpit about some questions I had asked the pastor privately about his stance on doctrine. He answered publicly. I had also asked for counsel on how to handle a couple of situations with men in the church. I was not given biblical advice from the pastor and his wife about inappropriate comments to me, of which one is an elder. The Lord convicted me about not doing things the way He said to with individually. I took a sabbatical from church for a cpuple of months When I took care of it privately with the individual was when I went back to church and got publicly attached and accused of having a religious spirit and a heresy hunter. It hurt but I take comfort now knowing Jesus suffered similar things.I pray for them. I pray truly that they would get right with The Lord that is the most important thing. The New Apostolic Reformattion (NAR) is in everything now. I want no part in it. I'm still praying that if it's His will to lead us to a Bible teaching and Jesus centered body of believers. Sometimes honestly it feels like I'm in the twilight zone.
All of these Issues that Lord has been speaking with me about for years, anyone looking for answers to these things, I got a few, not all of them, but what I have to say is substantial, I hope you will consider hearing me. The result can only be Christ glorified. Babylon Rescue.
Roman's 16:17 I urge you , brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them. For such people are not serving our Lord Christ, but their own appetites. ( most churches today are not christian as they claim to be so if you are a born again believer and you know the church is not in line with Gods word you need to flee from anything thats stopping you having a proper relationship with Jesus christ our Lord and saviour and one and only true living God who came sent by the father full of grace and truth and gave the counsellor the Holy Spirit to teach us the way to work out our salvation as the scriptures proclaim ( with trembling and fear of a Holy and righteous God ) and the only way to God is through jesus for it is written ( I am the way and the truth and the life .) You speak the truth brother in this video when you say ( once saved always saved) is deception from satan to keep believers lukewarm for when you believe the lie you are saved and safe you think you can carry on as the world lives and we are warned to live as strangers in this world!!!!!!!
I used to think the instruction given in Hebrews was meaning for me to go to church. Not so, I can meet with other believers outside those satanic walls.
Don't be sorry for me. I am a blessed man under the authority of the King. Peter denied the Lord three times to learn a valuable lesson and then Jesus said when you have returned STRENGTHEN YOUR BROTHERS. His strength is perfected in our weaknesses.
I can identify with your experience. Are you familiar with Torben Sondergaard and The Last Reformation? I've just finished reading his book of that name and it addresses how different "the church" is today in comparison to what the early believers practiced and looks at what needs to be done differently.
Yes I heard of him. I don't really believe everything he does, my real brother in life, met him. The apostles didn't go on the streets looking for people who want to get healed in the same way. It was with the purpose of evangelism and calling people to repent. However that doesn't mean that the church today is not lacking the power of the Spirit. So there is a balance. As usual, man always goes to extremes, we take one thing and make it the whole thing. May God bless you
OSAS is true. If you can lose your salvation then your salvation depends on you not Jesus. Whosoever believes I give eternal life. How long is eternal?
Apparently you’re not familiar with what JESUS SAID… John 15 1I am the true vine, and my Father is the farmer. 2👉Every branch in me that bears not fruit he takes away👈: and every branch that bears fruit, he purges it, that it may bring forth more fruit. 3Now you are clean through the word which I have spoken to you. 4Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, 👉EXCEPT it abide in the vine; no more can you, EXCEPT you abide in me.👈 5I am the vine, you are the branches: 👉He that stays in me👈, and I in him, the same brings forth much fruit: for without me you can do nothing. 6👉IF IF IF a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.👈 7👉IF IF IF you abide in me👈, and my words abide in you, you shall ask what you will, and it shall be done to you. 8Herein is my Father glorified, that you bear much fruit; so shall you be my disciples. 9As the Father has loved me, so have I loved you: continue you in my love. 10👉IF IF IF you keep my commandments👈, you shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love. 11These things have I spoken to you, that my joy might remain in you, and that your joy might be full. 12👉This is my commandment, That you love one another, as I have loved you.👈
I am an older divorced woman but have found little respect and suspicion you were after something, control of the service from the front, the holy spirit is suffocated. There are those in churches for other reasons than the love of Jesus. I now am with Christian radio supporting Christian missions and do praise with youtube read the bible and pray every day.
If you have had a true conversion and are a born again follower of Jesus Christ, I feel that staying away from the assembly with other believers; weakens your faith and allows Satan to tempt you to fall away from Jesus completely. I wish you would reconsider brother. The Holy Spirit gives each of us different gifting, to help build the body of Christ.
I don't stay away from born again believers, depends on the leading of the Spirit. If you feel fellowship with other believers brings you closer to Jesus, then by all means go
You can't save yourself.. So, how can you lose salvation if you can't earn it to begin with?.. Besides that, I do believe in doing home based churches and don't believe in money and ambition in churches.. Also, making money off of God's name via music, books, speeches, etc.. But God is still in control and He will get what He's after..
So no church does it right? that's a sad testimony. Your words are true, there are many false churches that don't get the message, that are only about church promotion. In that you speak truth. But you leave it there and you shouldn't. A church is a hospital, not a place for perfection. In the examples you give, the church itself is in need of hospitalization. The 'church' is not the building, it is the people, and you are 'spot on' in that assessment. But it is up to us to 'fix' the church, to tell them this message. We are not to speak against the church, but we are to promote the real faith, the real church, the real message of the great commission (Matthew 28:19-20). Church should be more of a mission field. We also don't agree with the promotion of Once Saved Always Saved, salvation via soundbyte. There is far more failure in that soundbyte than there is truth, we are in agreement. But again, you must be a positive message for the luke warm churches to wake up. ua-cam.com/channels/z-wPc1zMrLk_eZR5xju2HA.htmlfeed
Please report back as you find institutional churches willing to receive your message of change. Most follow their pastor, and shun any interference with “the way we do things.” I say this with sadness, from experience. Church is the ASSEMBLING of true born-again believers, in whatever arrangement that is, even virtually, where we LOVE the Word of God, we LOVE to testify of Christ and His coming, and we continue to share the Gospel AND the end-times warnings and GLORIOUS signs - to almost NO ONE who wants to hear ... except, thank you Lord, for a few blessed stragglers He leads us to. All glory to our Father in heaven and our Lord Jesus Christ.
Hello dear friend, There are many things you said that I wonder whether you truly listened to the video. you said: "So no church does it right? that's a sad testimony." response: Where did I say that no church does it right dear friend? That is what is called a straw-man argument. This is a sad testimony only for those who still are weak in their faith thinking that Christianity is not SUFFICIENT IN CHRIST. I am a child of God who knows My Lord, I hear and follow Him. I can be in no better position. I do what He tells me to do. If He tells me to go to a church building to save people, I will go, if He tells me to go to a mosque to save people I go there, if He tells me to stay home and make videos, I do it. I am a simple man under authority. you said: "But you leave it there and you shouldn't. A church is a hospital, not a place for perfection. In the examples you give, the church itself is in need of hospitalization. The 'church' is not the building, it is the people, and you are 'spot on' in that assessment. But it is up to us to 'fix' the church, to tell them this message." response: Your statement that a church is a hospital not a place of perfection is VERY TRUE. However, when church leadership is teaching A FALSE GOSPEL that leads people to be lukewarm and to be easy with deliberate sin, then that "church" is NOT A HOSPITAL, it is POISON, it kills people instead of healing them. When you go into a church gathering and there is leadership that is teaching a false gospel, you either have to say the truth and confront them with it or you have to compromise the truth for the sake of love, peace and fellowship. Many people are ready to do that, I am not which is why I SAY THE TRUTH, and when I saw that they are not willing to hear I CAME OUT and I thank God for it. I fellowship with other brothers and sisters and where 2 or 3 gather in His name, there HE IS IN THE MIDST. you said: "We are not to speak against the church, but we are to promote the real faith, the real church, the real message of the great commission" response: Who is speaking against the church dear friend, you are confused it seems. A church that believes gospels like OSAS is NOT A REAL CHURCH, you might have people going to that "church building" who might be PART of the TRUE CHURCH, but these people could be led astray and seduced by the FALSE TEACHINGS OF THAT LEADERSHIP. The only way you can be useful in that kind of surrounding is to SNATCH THEM OUT OF THERE before they get TRAPPED by these demonic doctrines that are being taught. So you either open your mouth or you sit down and think you are promoting love while compromising the truth. My Lord showed me that OSAS is FOOD POISONING AND CALLED ME TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST IT. I simply follow His lead and commands. By the way, when you say we are to PROMOTE THE REAL FAITH, that is what I do here my friend. THE REAL FAITH is ABOUT FOLLOWING JESUS AND OBEYING HIM. Jesus' commission is to lead people to HIM, to make DISCIPLES OF HIM. This is what I do. When you are WITH CHRIST, when you HEAR HIM and get your direction from Him, He can SEND YOU EVEN TO THE DRAGON'S DEN to deliver people from the jaws of death. I guess you missed when I said that in the video. Anyway, considering your approach here, I wonder how close you are to the Lord. Because only people so proud of their associations and their works, will find this a sad testimony. The basic message of the video is to PUT FELLOWSHIP WITH BROTHERS ((( SECOND ))) AFTER FELLOWSHIP WITH GOD, to do that we cannot COMPROMISE THE TRUTH. Hopefully you have the humility to hear the things I said to you.
If I may add to this thread. In my humble (opinion) I do not believe the New Testament promotes the Idea of the "Church" being a hospital. The Church is the congregation of the body of believers. The New Testament paints a portrait of believers gatherd together in the homes of other like minded believers. The Church would have never allowed "sick" non believers into their midst. Think about it. They had to trust one another or else be compromised and sold out. This is not to say the Church was not a hospital on wheels so to say. I mean surely when they left the fellowship ( breaking of bread and prayer) and returned to their own homes they would have gone into the highways and byways to preach and to heal and to share the gospel. But never to bring a pagan or wicked man into the sanctified home of the believers. Thats just madness! That was my whole thing about todays church when I attended. Solid born again believers congregating together with the filthy, vile pornographers and drunkards and unrepentant sinners lifting up filthy hands with defiled hearts in the presence of God? That was the worst of it for me. Worse even than the false teachings. That one would not first remove the stain of sin by the Spirit and then approach with confidence in humility. No dear people the Church is not a hospital. The Church is the Power of God in Christ to bring Truth to the world not the World to the Church. I do not pass judgement however, on lost souls. I love them dearly and talk to them and pray for them and help them just as I would help a brother or sister. But never ever under any circumstances bring them into the place where I along with my wife and children worship our God in Spirit and Truth.
One question...... Has God Himself given you permission to leave or give up on the church? Be careful how you answer that question! For I didn't ask you what the organized, institutional, traditional, program driven, apostate church was doing wrong! What I asked was; has God Himself given you permission to leave the church?
@@EternalCall -You are correct that is not the church as chronicled in the New Testament. The Ekklesia or (called out ones ) is every true Blood-bought, Born-again, Child of the living God Jehovah. Yet that is just one disobedient part of the modern church culture we now have and now plays itself out each week in these United States especially. So my question still stands: Has God given you permission to leave those brothers & sisters ( part of the church), who are learning how to be religious instead of being the " Bride of Christ" preparing for the wedding ceremony. For you see they may for the most part be disobedient yet they will not learn to be obedient from the currant atmosphere and prevailing religious culture that has traditionally hindered the ekklesia in our day. Running away from the problem is not solving the apostacy that the modern day organized church is about. Disobedient traditions and practices cannot be usurped by running away. Christ Himself overcame traditions, and practices by the religious elite by diligent obedience to His Father. He didn't run away and do His own thing. He remained faithful to the Father's way of doing all things. He told the Pharisees that day that He could only do that which the Father was already doing. It made no difference what those around were doing or not doing. He remained faithful and demonstrated the faithful doing that pleases the Father! Jesus made this promise in Revelation 3:21 - " He who overcomes, I will grant to him to sit down with Me on My throne, as I also overcame and sat down with my Father on His throne." Overcoming does not include running to comfort away from strife and challenge! Demonstrating Christ in all stressful encounters and situations is part of our mandate as children of God. Acts 1:8..... You sir have only made the organized church; your Samaria to go to. Your Neglected.
Thank you brother! Jesus is asking us to live holy lives!!!
Your testimony is exactly what I went through and I still have not found a true church to fellowship with other brothers and sisters in Christ. I'm on my own just like you with Christ and my relationship with Him is far better then having a relationship with any others because I know I will get the ultimate true answers that I need to be saved. I can feel His present the moment I wake up in the morning helping me facing another day where He guides me in the right path and protect me from the evil one and when I go to bed at night where He is there looking after me when I'm asleep. Oh what a beautiful feeling to know that He will always be there whenever I need Him and that I'm over joy to have found Him and to loved Him for what He has done for me on the cross where from now on I will dedicate my life to serve Him faithfully to the end. Praise and Glory to God through His Son Jesus Christ. Amen.
Amen. It is all about Jesus and following Him. Wherever 2 or 3 gather in His name, THAT IS CHURCH.
We keep going in the name of OUR LORD. He cannot fail. thank you for sharing this small testimony.
@Purefaith 777 Amen
Amen 🙏🏼Thank you for sharing your testimony. This walk sure is a lonely one. I’m a new Christian married to an unbeliever. My only family member that claims to know Jesus is OSAS and lives exactly like the world except prays before meals. I joined a local church for fellowship only to find they believe that false doctrine as well. I feel blessed that when I started my walk with the Lord 2 years ago, one of the first pastors I started watching on UA-cam was Francis Chang who said “ READ THIS BOOK “ and that’s exactly what I did. I read the Bible myself before ever stepping foot in a church and am so THANKFUL to Jesus who has been guiding my steps and leading me ever since. I look forward to your videos...keep them coming ♥️🙏🏼
Thank you! May God bless you
I too was the same. I need to get out of church to understand the gospel and to be truly born again only through Jesus Christ and not through church buildings. And today there is a move of God and is calling the remnant all over the world and so I heard about this intercessors in my own country and started to really align myself to them, to pray and weep for our nation and to pray for righteousness and may the destiny of each person each nation may be fulfilled, what it is to be a true follower and disciple of Jesus in these endtimes. I thought it’s fine for me to be alone and to a christian but there is joy and encouragement when we worship the Lord our God with His true followers. And it’s out there, there are many out there. We will know them by there fruit. I wish I could give you names but I know the Lord will lead us if we pray to align ourselves with other remnants that He will not wish us to be alone in our faith but be encouraged by one another. Sometimes through a church building where we can have fellowship and sometimes through online..
It is a beautiful thing when true followers of Christ fellowship together. The TRUE CHURCH will always prevail and the gates of hell will not prevail against it.
Nice to meet you and God bless you
My wife and I do gather with brothers and sisters when we can, to pray and break bread.
When Jesus is the focus of all members, and where 2 or 3 gather in His name THERE is CHURCH.
May God bless you
I just want to share whats in my heart because I became bitter and judge churches especially evangelicals and need to repent and mourn over and over again for the sin of judging pastors and leaders in the Body of Christ. But as I now began to understand it is not I who judges the church or church buildings or names, rather, we continue to press forward because it is the Lord’s desire that none should perish.
A true church is not just building their church but also to be in the world spreading the Gospel ,
thank you brother
a relationship with Jesus
is essential not rituals or traditions
allelujah
Amen brother, you're speaking the truth! Glory to God! Thank you Jesus! Keep pressing on brother your labor is not in vain.
Thank you
Brother! My soul is overwhelmed with so much emotion this very moment. I watched your video about why you left the Catholic Church. So I decided to view more of your content and found this video. It was like the Father speaking directly to me. I have had the same experience you have had. I left Organized Christianity about 3 years ago for the very reasons you did. I have stood alone with my wife in prayers, and fastings longing for fellowship with like minded men. Contending with Church members to no avail. I am begining to see that I truely am not alone. God is doing something special in this season. He is calling his sheep out! Today (you) have given me strength and comfort. Today I know for sure that I am not a lone Ranger and there are others who see..Is there a way to contact you privately? I think there may be much for us to discuss. God bless you Man of God.
You are not alone brother. The remnant are scattered throughout the world.
May God bless you and yes contact me anytime info@eternalcall.com
@@EternalCall Amen. Thank you.
You're not alone, brother.
Thank you. May God bless you
Very very very true! Amen brother! Pray for these kinds of churches that they turn from religion to Christ Jesus!
We pray in the name of Jesus. May He open the eyes to see the sufficiency in Him
Love you brother! Thank you for posting this
@@KingdomsGrace thank you. God bless you in Jesus name
I totally agree brother. Apostles didn't have this mindset. They shared everything and lived together the same. Don't worry, You are not alone, me too, I struggle with that. I think, servants of Christ in a sense shouldn't have a house here on earth, we shouldn't have a house here on earth, but always moving, and running the race to the Kingdom of God.
Amen 😊✝️✝️✝️
This religions system is not the way the first apostles did it! O no.
The cross is really all you need to know. There is nothing beyond Christ and the grace of God. That’s the gospel.
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praise JESUS ! i thanking JESUS for his spirit and this message !! IN 1984??? JESUS called me to follow HIM with Instructions -- for the Baptist church i was leaving!!!! - for many many decades ! i had to hear~~ others chide me back to the - gathering where JESUS isn't LORD of the services !- with the LINE - Forsake not the assembly ! HOW EVER !!! JESUS is for the Broken hearts and i needed deliverance! also i had to repay a student Loan for Nursing school!! i learned step by step!! too only PHOCAS ON JESUS ! THANKING JESUS for this Channel and messenger! i have been -- over the course of time - invited to leave and not come back to several ??? churches!!! seems i just do not fit in the private Club that gathers in these haunts they call churches!! JESUS stated we are the Temple of GOD! and in conclusion - JESUS ??? did not call anyone to be christian he calls for us to be DISCIPLES! PRAISE JESUS FOR HIS PRECIOUS HOLY SPIRIT OF SCATHING TRUTHS!
Amen sister it is all about Jesus and following Him
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I have too experienced this for years now. I really began to think something was wrong with me. Things, in the beginning , of going to a new church building, but soon I realize there is no depth. People can call off football stats or the players creditials more than they can about what Jesus said. The false gospel that they have believed on requires no change at all. Recently was even attacked from a pulpit about some questions I had asked the pastor privately about his stance on doctrine. He answered publicly. I had also asked for counsel on how to handle a couple of situations with men in the church. I was not given biblical advice from the pastor and his wife about inappropriate comments to me, of which one is an elder. The Lord convicted me about not doing things the way He said to with individually. I took a sabbatical from church for a cpuple of months When I took care of it privately with the individual was when I went back to church and got publicly attached and accused of having a religious spirit and a heresy hunter. It hurt but I take comfort now knowing Jesus suffered similar things.I pray for them. I pray truly that they would get right with The Lord that is the most important thing. The New Apostolic Reformattion (NAR) is in everything now. I want no part in it.
I'm still praying that if it's His will to lead us to a Bible teaching and Jesus centered body of believers. Sometimes honestly it feels like I'm in the twilight zone.
You are not alone. The disciples of Jesus are very few
All of these Issues that Lord has been speaking with me about for years, anyone looking for answers to these things, I got a few, not all of them, but what I have to say is substantial, I hope you will consider hearing me. The result can only be Christ glorified. Babylon Rescue.
Amen again brother
I was hoping he came to the conclusion that the "church" going system period is false and doesn't belong to the Lord.
Amen brother
Amen.
Roman's 16:17 I urge you , brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them. For such people are not serving our Lord Christ, but their own appetites.
( most churches today are not christian as they claim to be so if you are a born again believer and you know the church is not in line with Gods word you need to flee from anything thats stopping you having a proper relationship with Jesus christ our Lord and saviour and one and only true living God who came sent by the father full of grace and truth and gave the counsellor the Holy Spirit to teach us the way to work out our salvation as the scriptures proclaim ( with trembling and fear of a Holy and righteous God ) and the only way to God is through jesus for it is written ( I am the way and the truth and the life .)
You speak the truth brother in this video when you say ( once saved always saved) is deception from satan to keep believers lukewarm for when you believe the lie you are saved and safe you think you can carry on as the world lives and we are warned to live as strangers in this world!!!!!!!
Amen to that!!!
I used to think the instruction given in Hebrews was meaning for me to go to church. Not so, I can meet with other believers outside those satanic walls.
I'm sorry that happened to you.
Don't be sorry for me. I am a blessed man under the authority of the King.
Peter denied the Lord three times to learn a valuable lesson and then Jesus said when you have returned STRENGTHEN YOUR BROTHERS.
His strength is perfected in our weaknesses.
I can identify with your experience.
Are you familiar with Torben Sondergaard and The Last Reformation?
I've just finished reading his book of that name and it addresses how different "the church" is today in comparison to what the early believers practiced and looks at what needs to be done differently.
Yes I heard of him.
I don't really believe everything he does, my real brother in life, met him. The apostles didn't go on the streets looking for people who want to get healed in the same way. It was with the purpose of evangelism and calling people to repent.
However that doesn't mean that the church today is not lacking the power of the Spirit. So there is a balance. As usual, man always goes to extremes, we take one thing and make it the whole thing.
May God bless you
OSAS is true. If you can lose your salvation then your salvation depends on you not Jesus. Whosoever believes I give eternal life. How long is eternal?
Apparently you’re not familiar with what JESUS SAID…
John 15
1I am the true vine, and my Father is the farmer.
2👉Every branch in me that bears not fruit he takes away👈: and every branch that bears fruit, he purges it, that it may bring forth more fruit.
3Now you are clean through the word which I have spoken to you.
4Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, 👉EXCEPT it abide in the vine; no more can you, EXCEPT you abide in me.👈
5I am the vine, you are the branches: 👉He that stays in me👈, and I in him, the same brings forth much fruit: for without me you can do nothing.
6👉IF IF IF a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.👈
7👉IF IF IF you abide in me👈, and my words abide in you, you shall ask what you will, and it shall be done to you.
8Herein is my Father glorified, that you bear much fruit; so shall you be my disciples.
9As the Father has loved me, so have I loved you: continue you in my love.
10👉IF IF IF you keep my commandments👈, you shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
11These things have I spoken to you, that my joy might remain in you, and that your joy might be full.
12👉This is my commandment, That you love one another, as I have loved you.👈
I am an older divorced woman but have found little respect and suspicion you were after something, control of the service from the front, the holy spirit is suffocated.
There are those in churches for other reasons than the love of Jesus.
I now am with Christian radio supporting Christian missions and do praise with youtube
read the bible and pray every day.
If you have had a true conversion and are a born again follower of Jesus Christ, I feel that staying away from the assembly with other believers; weakens your faith and allows Satan to tempt you to fall away from Jesus completely. I wish you would reconsider brother. The Holy Spirit gives each of us different gifting, to help build the body of Christ.
I don't stay away from born again believers, depends on the leading of the Spirit. If you feel fellowship with other believers brings you closer to Jesus, then by all means go
@@EternalCall Oh, I definitely understand we you are coming from. Been there myself.👍
I don't go to church anymore because i fart in church a lot.
That is not funny.
You can't save yourself.. So, how can you lose salvation if you can't earn it to begin with?.. Besides that, I do believe in doing home based churches and don't believe in money and ambition in churches.. Also, making money off of God's name via music, books, speeches, etc.. But God is still in control and He will get what He's after..
In India, it seems that 90% of the churches don't believe in OSAS.
How do you obey Heb.10:25? Is it not a sin to not obey the instruction given here?
So no church does it right? that's a sad testimony. Your words are true, there are many false churches that don't get the message, that are only about church promotion. In that you speak truth. But you leave it there and you shouldn't. A church is a hospital, not a place for perfection. In the examples you give, the church itself is in need of hospitalization. The 'church' is not the building, it is the people, and you are 'spot on' in that assessment. But it is up to us to 'fix' the church, to tell them this message. We are not to speak against the church, but we are to promote the real faith, the real church, the real message of the great commission (Matthew 28:19-20). Church should be more of a mission field. We also don't agree with the promotion of Once Saved Always Saved, salvation via soundbyte. There is far more failure in that soundbyte than there is truth, we are in agreement. But again, you must be a positive message for the luke warm churches to wake up.
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Please report back as you find institutional churches willing to receive your message of change. Most follow their pastor, and shun any interference with “the way we do things.” I say this with sadness, from experience. Church is the ASSEMBLING of true born-again believers, in whatever arrangement that is, even virtually, where we LOVE the Word of God, we LOVE to testify of Christ and His coming, and we continue to share the Gospel AND the end-times warnings and GLORIOUS signs - to almost NO ONE who wants to hear ... except, thank you Lord, for a few blessed stragglers He leads us to. All glory to our Father in heaven and our Lord Jesus Christ.
Hello dear friend, There are many things you said that I wonder whether you truly listened to the video.
you said: "So no church does it right? that's a sad testimony."
response: Where did I say that no church does it right dear friend? That is what is called a straw-man argument. This is a sad testimony only for those who still are weak in their faith thinking that Christianity is not SUFFICIENT IN CHRIST. I am a child of God who knows My Lord, I hear and follow Him. I can be in no better position. I do what He tells me to do. If He tells me to go to a church building to save people, I will go, if He tells me to go to a mosque to save people I go there, if He tells me to stay home and make videos, I do it. I am a simple man under authority.
you said: "But you leave it there and you shouldn't. A church is a hospital, not a place for perfection. In the examples you give, the church itself is in need of hospitalization. The 'church' is not the building, it is the people, and you are 'spot on' in that assessment. But it is up to us to 'fix' the church, to tell them this message."
response: Your statement that a church is a hospital not a place of perfection is VERY TRUE. However, when church leadership is teaching A FALSE GOSPEL that leads people to be lukewarm and to be easy with deliberate sin, then that "church" is NOT A HOSPITAL, it is POISON, it kills people instead of healing them. When you go into a church gathering and there is leadership that is teaching a false gospel, you either have to say the truth and confront them with it or you have to compromise the truth for the sake of love, peace and fellowship. Many people are ready to do that, I am not which is why I SAY THE TRUTH, and when I saw that they are not willing to hear I CAME OUT and I thank God for it. I fellowship with other brothers and sisters and where 2 or 3 gather in His name, there HE IS IN THE MIDST.
you said: "We are not to speak against the church, but we are to promote the real faith, the real church, the real message of the great commission"
response: Who is speaking against the church dear friend, you are confused it seems. A church that believes gospels like OSAS is NOT A REAL CHURCH, you might have people going to that "church building" who might be PART of the TRUE CHURCH, but these people could be led astray and seduced by the FALSE TEACHINGS OF THAT LEADERSHIP.
The only way you can be useful in that kind of surrounding is to SNATCH THEM OUT OF THERE before they get TRAPPED by these demonic doctrines that are being taught. So you either open your mouth or you sit down and think you are promoting love while compromising the truth. My Lord showed me that OSAS is FOOD POISONING AND CALLED ME TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST IT. I simply follow His lead and commands.
By the way, when you say we are to PROMOTE THE REAL FAITH, that is what I do here my friend. THE REAL FAITH is ABOUT FOLLOWING JESUS AND OBEYING HIM. Jesus' commission is to lead people to HIM, to make DISCIPLES OF HIM. This is what I do.
When you are WITH CHRIST, when you HEAR HIM and get your direction from Him, He can SEND YOU EVEN TO THE DRAGON'S DEN to deliver people from the jaws of death. I guess you missed when I said that in the video.
Anyway, considering your approach here, I wonder how close you are to the Lord. Because only people so proud of their associations and their works, will find this a sad testimony.
The basic message of the video is to PUT FELLOWSHIP WITH BROTHERS ((( SECOND ))) AFTER FELLOWSHIP WITH GOD, to do that we cannot COMPROMISE THE TRUTH.
Hopefully you have the humility to hear the things I said to you.
Amen George. God bless you brother. I learned a lot with you.
Thank you! May God bless you
If I may add to this thread. In my humble (opinion) I do not believe the New Testament promotes the Idea of the "Church" being a hospital. The Church is the congregation of the body of believers. The New Testament paints a portrait of believers gatherd together in the homes of other like minded believers. The Church would have never allowed "sick" non believers into their midst. Think about it. They had to trust one another or else be compromised and sold out. This is not to say the Church was not a hospital on wheels so to say. I mean surely when they left the fellowship ( breaking of bread and prayer) and returned to their own homes they would have gone into the highways and byways to preach and to heal and to share the gospel. But never to bring a pagan or wicked man into the sanctified home of the believers. Thats just madness! That was my whole thing about todays church when I attended. Solid born again believers congregating together with the filthy, vile pornographers and drunkards and unrepentant sinners lifting up filthy hands with defiled hearts in the presence of God? That was the worst of it for me. Worse even than the false teachings. That one would not first remove the stain of sin by the Spirit and then approach with confidence in humility.
No dear people the Church is not a hospital. The Church is the Power of God in Christ to bring Truth to the world not the World to the Church. I do not pass judgement however, on lost souls. I love them dearly and talk to them and pray for them and help them just as I would help a brother or sister. But never ever under any circumstances bring them into the place where I along with my wife and children worship our God in Spirit and Truth.
One question...... Has God Himself given you permission to leave or give up on the church? Be careful how you answer that question! For I didn't ask you what the organized, institutional, traditional, program driven, apostate church was doing wrong! What I asked was; has God Himself given you permission to leave the church?
The church is not a place you go to, dear friend.
@@EternalCall -You are correct that is not the church as chronicled in the New Testament. The Ekklesia or (called out ones ) is every true Blood-bought, Born-again, Child of the living God Jehovah. Yet that is just one disobedient part of the modern church culture we now have and now plays itself out each week in these United States especially. So my question still stands: Has God given you permission to leave those brothers & sisters ( part of the church), who are learning how to be religious instead of being the " Bride of Christ" preparing for the wedding ceremony.
For you see they may for the most part be disobedient yet they will not learn to be obedient from the currant atmosphere and prevailing religious culture that has traditionally hindered the ekklesia in our day. Running away from the problem is not solving the apostacy that the modern day organized church is about. Disobedient traditions and practices cannot be usurped by running away. Christ Himself overcame traditions, and practices by the religious elite by diligent obedience to His Father. He didn't run away and do His own thing. He remained faithful to the Father's way of doing all things. He told the Pharisees that day that He could only do that which the Father was already doing. It made no difference what those around were doing or not doing. He remained faithful and demonstrated the faithful doing that pleases the Father!
Jesus made this promise in Revelation 3:21 - " He who overcomes, I will grant to him to sit down with Me on My throne, as I also overcame and sat down with my Father on His throne." Overcoming does not include running to comfort away from strife and challenge! Demonstrating Christ in all stressful encounters and situations is part of our mandate as children of God. Acts 1:8..... You sir have only made the organized church; your Samaria to go to. Your Neglected.
Another dude who never learned his faith! Trying to strip people out of the REal true Church!