@@alduintheanti-dragonborn One of the wikis says she's only in 1x04 and 1x06 but gets briefly mentioned in 2x02. I like how someone said at times a few scenes could have benefited from a marine being a main character, since the marines are often fairly useless and Starbuck or Apollo sometimes pick up a gun and lead an operation even though they are supposed to be pilots.
@@usul573 That's kind of the issue with most sci-fi shows. Take for instance Star Trek: Why would you send three of your bridge officers and your chief engineer on an away mission all the time? :D
@@usul573 Spoiler Warning for 2x02: As cylons had boarded the ship, their targets are Auxiliary Gun Control (so they can turn Galactica's guns on the fleet) and Aft Damage Control (so they can activate the fire surpression controls and vent the crew into space). The climatic fight at the end is Lee Adama and friends stopping the second group from getting to Aft Damage Control. Before that, Col Tigh gets a report that Sargent Hadrian has trapped the first group in the ship's laundry facility. He acknowledges this with "At least the fleet is safe". While this is the final mention of Hadrian in the series, it does establish that at some point she was let out of confinement and returned to duty.
I love that Adama knows how the legal system works because of his fathers job and can see when he is being played and pushed in to answering leading questions! Very clever scene!
Leading questions are allowed during specific parts of witness examination. However, there are times when leading questions are not allowed - for obvious reasons.
I think that’s what made him the only viable military leader out of everyone in that fleet. He new the military and the law so he could get along with administration.
@@joncn005 That has nothing to do with democracy. When an inquiry or a trial turns into a witch hunt then said trial it's no longer about law but about prejudice and fear. At that point the trial has lost purpose and legitimacy and it should be brought to an end. Immediately. Adama proved several times he was in favor of democracy and civil rights. And this scene is just one instance of that.
@@rael7298 I love that detail, and did you also notice after Adama says “make your choice, son.” the Corporal continues fixed on the Sgt. but at 3:41 he gives the ever soo slightest head nod towards Adama just prior to his taking action.. terrific performance. Too bad we only see him once.
His eyes remind me of Bill O’Reilly (Gowron) in Star Trek TNG/DS9.. soo much performance from just a look. It’s awesome in both ST and here in BSG with this actor playing the role of corporal
The Marines play such a pivotal role in many episodes. It's a shame their were no major characters represented in their ranks. Viper and Raptor pilots, the maintenance crew and Galactica officers all had characters.
@@Autofleet4429 lol the sole exception. The enlisted rank structure consists of crewman...and one chief petty officer. two ranks...one wildly junior and one senior.
Adama is like the father figure of the fleet, when he called the soldier "son" it hit home and is the reason why those under his command trust him so much.
Ashleigh Dungate The brilliant thing Adama did here was remind the sergeant that, at that moment, he did indeed have a choice. He didn't just give an order and expect it to be followed. He empowered the marine by admitting the blunt truth of the situation. A little humility from a leader goes a long way with the people they command.
Every soldier has drilled into them the concept of lawful vs unlawful order. It's just like it sounds; you refuse an order if you know that it is illegal or breaks military discipline. If you obey that order, then you go to jail. If you refuse, the person issuing the order goes down. No Sergent has the authority to order the Commander to be confined to the inquiry, and he isn't being arrested. This was an 'independent inquiry' so from the perspective Galactica's military or legal logs, it never happened. Kudos to the soldier at the door; all Adama had to do was remind him of his Oath.
@@xxREDFIVExxsame here. I’m going 10 years myself being out. But I still remember being e2 thinking wtf is e4 mafia. Until I made e4 then all pieces fell into place. Being a 13F I didn’t last long before making e5 but I still cherish those days
Yeah she was correct, but not for the right reasons. She was biased against them because of an inappropriate relationship. She had no clue or shred of evidence in regards to Boomer and the detonators etc
Well it had nothing to do with Chief, or that Adama allowed the relationship to continue. She was a trusted member of the crew, and would have found an alternative way to have done it. Even if it had been made public the cylons look human, it would be impossible to create a system where they treated every single person on the ship with suspicion, and in fact you see they don't even after this incident. So she was wrong on all counts really. Adama didn't provide a means for cylon conspirators to do antrhing they couldn't already have done.
@@nickh8200 just because she reached the right conclusion doesn't make her some genius worthy of trust or respect. As they say...a broken clock is right twice a day. Doesn't me you should keep it around and depend on it
@@nickh8200 Good Point, but actually it wasn't a Conclusion at all, but conjecture; that's the problem right? Also, the the rules against fraternaization are mostly unworkable when 99.99% of the population is dead. "Anyone can be a Cyclon" with no way to detect right? So, the Questioner herself could be a Cylon Collaborator.
I love how 2 of the ships captains look at each other in amusement when Adama claims to be a soft touch. They know he isn't, and Hadrian knows he isn't, and it goads her into losing her way.
The Adama Glare is the most powerfull weapon of the entire series plus several other franchises.. nothing is able to resist it.. And its terminally lethal when combined with the Adama Shield of dissapproval
Yes, it's a glare, though I prefer to think of it as proactive engagement. Also worth mentioning the exchange of glances between the Corporal and the Sergeant at 3:33. Her tightened jaw is a kind of confession. Whether it was 'I admit that I don't know you', or, 'OK, I haven''t a legal leg to stand on' -- I don't know.
I love how Adama gave the Corporal the time to formulate his choice. And how respectful the Corporal was to Hadrian...he knew she was only doing her duty...as she saw it. _____
@@stevenschiro1838 Yeah, it's a very great TNG episode. Picard uses a more diplomatic way to end the sham, using a clever bait to expose the trail for what it really is, instead of just defying it's authority.
I don’t think a lot of people realize that when Adama says what his orders are and then says “make your choice son” falls back to how he moves as an individual and as a commander. It harkens back to him saying he can or can’t “live” with a choice he makes. It’s basically make your choice and consequences come what may. Yes anticipate the consequences and consider if it’s worth it or not. Yes mitigate what you can, but at the end of day, after all that, standing in those consequences when they do come. Recognize your were wrong, mistaken, or misunderstood, but own it.
"Make your choice son" with that comment Adama shows why he earned the reverence his crew give him. Adama was, nominally, at that marine sergeant's mercy and the mercy of the inquiry, civilian control of government being a VERY important concept to everyone in that room (though muddled at the moment by military emergency). But the marine can see the civvies are terrified and looking for someone to blame, the commander that got them through hell is their target, and that commander TRUSTS him that while issuing contradictory orders to the inquiry, allows the marine the dignity of his initiative and judgement. His decision was likely already made when he looked past Adama, but he took the time Adama gave him to fully let that decision sink in and think twice before committing.
@@kyorin6526 That was such an ignorant comment! It's called the willing suspension of disbelief. Learn it. Use it. But only after you GO THE HELL AWAY!
Having finished BSG a couple of months back (after several years of watching season 1-3 and then quitting for half a year lol), seeing this scene REALLY makes me see how much commander Adama has aged in between season 1 and 4. Really shows the detail put into the show.
I re-watched this episode yesterday, and along with the ST:TNG episode "Drumhead" you get a good look at what military inquiries can be, and when they fly off the rails into what they shouldn't be. In Drumhead, the off-the-rails came from an activist judge with a chip on her shoulder trying to live up to the shadow of her better father. In this BSG episode, you see the effects of a poorly structured process (sue to personnel shortages, and/or the desire to bot introduce a new character for the episode) where the investigator (and the Sergeant does a GREAT job at that!) is also expected to be the prosecutor AND determine the scope of the proceedings. A failure of foresight on Adama's part, which is why he saw when it had to end.
I'm glad I wasn't the only one to make that connection. This immediately reminded me of Drumhead; it's amazing how similar both are. Both of those episodes should be required viewing in high school. The importance of the presumption of innocence, the right to remain silent, etc. Also, human's proclivity towards these types of witch trials / drumhead trials and the need to guard against people like Hadrian (BSG) and Admiral Satie (TNG). As Picard says, these people are always out there, waiting for the right climate to flourish. So we must remain vigilant and aware of these principles, or we will fall prey to them and their line of thinking
I think you can definitely tell that ronald d moor was inspired by a lot of star trek episodes probably ones he worked on because I came to this scene after watching a clip from tng where some admiral was going after picard like the sargeant is adama and all I could think of "this is a witch hunt and I will not have it aboard my ship" and the pegasus arc from this show and equinox from voyager are practically the same Any way that concludes my inchorent ramblings that no one will ever see
Reminds me of a comment a friend once made of a lesson he learned during his Navy days; "On ship, the chain of authority is the Captain, his Commander in Chief and God. And the last two are debatable. What is never up for debate is that the Captain's word is law."
Great scene, even with her being right on the hunch. At that time was no cause to claim two decorated trusted officers collaborators. That changes Adama's tone.
@@chrisdufresne9359 There was a prequel series called Caprica. Give it a watch. It had so much potential but it only got 1 season which it used to go from the cylon on a drawing board to it in mass production
Illicit relationships? "Im a soft touch" As well as morale is on the gut thanks to the destruction of the 12 colonies. Any small boost, even relationships, must be welcomed aboard, or become like the early-season Pegasus crew. He was being pushed into saying he basically let Cylon infiltrators rampant on purpose and hid their identities, which he clearly didn't but that's the power of leading questions.
Not exactly a random sergeant, she's the Master-At-Arms, the head of internal security for the fleet. But obviously her social weight compared to the Commander is still low.
I have not watched battlestar galactica yet, just a handful of clips and this is one of the most compelling scenes that make me want to watch the whole thing
I envy you, watching them all for the first time. Especially when you can get them all in short order. I watched this series as it was coming out, and the wait between weeks, let alone the wait between seasons, was excruciating, and wonderful. When it was running BSG was, hands down, the best sci-fi on television. Not because it had great fight scenes, or good FX, but because every single one of the characters, even the Cylons, were Human in every sense of the word. They were all great, and they were all flawed.
"I will ask the questions, Sir!" Questionable in a fleet of the remains of humanity, to directly oppose the pretty much most powerful individual in such a manner. Gotta admire her tho for taking her role here seriously and not getting intimidated by what's basically the pentagon in one person right now.
I still wonder how the frak she could have misunderstood her assignment so fundamentally. Her task was to get to the bottom of the bombings and find potential infiltrators, not to stir up drama and create a conflict.
@@antred11 The key is context. Two weeks ago billions of people died when the Cylons nuked their worlds. 15 days have passed since then and the Cylons have tried to kill them all hundreds of times. Hours ago someone sneaked a bomb on board Galactica. You are being ordered to investigate the bombing and are told Cylons look like humans now. During your investigation three deck hands lie about the Chief's location that the time of the bombing. The Chief and Boomer also lie about their location during the time of the bombing. And you find out they were fraking right next to the spot the Cylon infiltrated. Honestly she was kind of on the right track. She just screwed up by assuming their was a conspiracy from the top without enough evidence.
You gotta know that Edward James Olmos %^&$%^& LOVED this role! Man! Talk about having fun! He really got to sink his acting teeth into this role, and that must have felt GOOOOOOD!
Something to think about. Those two guards were standing there thoughout the entire inquest, they watched every person being questioned and the manner in which Hadrian did it. They knew before Adama did that this was a witch hunt, that's why they chose him over Hadrian.
@@BroadHobbyProjects I don't think they referring to warhammer 40k. I think the they were referring to the fact that at this point in the story, there are only around 40,000 humans left alive in the galaxy after the Cyclon attack.
Everyone has a place even your opinion. But leave starfleet out of this because if you knew anything you wouldn't blurt out foolishness like this but that's common on the internet.
There is considerable difference in acting caliber between Edward James Olmos and every single actor who played a Starfleet captain. The gulf is *VAST*.
Its funny because an exact same scene appeared in Star Trek Next generation. There was a witch hunt concerning Romulans agents on the Enterprise and they became suspicious of everyone, even its own captain. Picard did the exact same thing as Adama here, refusing to "play along" and outplaying the court.
That sigh...Just so full of sadness and exhaustion. and after he gives the marine HIS orders, and the marine complies, he just walks out of the door like a fuckin' badass.
@@bensisko4651 Olmos to Stewart, “You play the part better than I do, but one thing. Lose the wig.” Patrick Stewart and Olmos tried out for the part of Picard and Stewart was forced to wear a wig by the producers. Stewart nearly refused the role because of the wig. He thought it was stupid. Olmos agreed. The rest is history.
I remember watching him as the Lieutenant as a kid. Fortunately for the Sergeant, she was dealing with Adama, not the Katana-wielding Lieutenant who chops up KGB snatch teams.
Well considering humanity had a finite number..... allow any relation aslong as it doesn't interfere with positions. Gotta pump those numbers up people.
She was literally trying to get the man that saved humanity to admit he did something wrong and then use that against him to do what? Get him thrown in prison? Demoted? How is that going to help mankind?
The choice was between a sergeant who was going way outside her purview, vs the guy who physically saved the ship and 40,000+ people in a single day. Didn't require much thinking.
Because of exactly what Adama said. He was implicated in an investigation, rank should not matter except to denote responsibility. The law should be honored. Whatever the Sergeant did wrong, she was in the right thinking at least that, and so was the tribunal. She went overboard insinuating that him allowing a relationship was somehow collaboration.
because he made the mistake of leaving civilian society intact for the most part. stuff like this is only one of the reasons why if this show happened in real life, martial law would haveb een called on day one and most civil rights suspended until such a time that peace can be declared once more.
Recall that there were several Democrat leaders that were openly hoping for economic collapse and social disorder in order to hurt their political opponents chance for reelection. Many politicians believe it is better to rule over ashes than to not rule at all.
@@BoopSnoot you mean what basically the entire GOP has been doing for well over a decade? You mean when everyone with a clue there was some kind of economic collapse coming and it was just a question of it would end up being before or after the election? Yeah, no love for team blue from me, but you might want to dial down the projection a bit. It's blindingly intense, but I suppose that makes the username fit at least... 😑
@@stonem0013 To be fair, this WAS an independant trial led by a civilian court so technically Adama had no power here, or was not supposed to. The reality of course is that he's the one military leader above all in this remaining fleet of humans. So good luck getting any soldier to directly oppose him in any effective manner.
@@stonem0013 I know it's complicated. She had the same amount of power like the judge that, in the real world, easily puts any general, admiral or president behind bars. These people are in a very specific scenario.
@@NtoTheM not comparable, since in the real world a judge's sentences are enforced and respected, wheras in BSG this sergeant didn't have any substantive power, just formal authority.
they tried to outsmart a dude who has countless years of experience of not only in combat, but also learning alongside really good commanders like Nash throughout his career. If anything they only made a fool out of themselves
Hadrian was right to call Adama out for keeping it secret, but not in a court. She was letting her feeling over being mistrusted blind her to why Adama kept it secret. Worse she could have cost Adama his command and (considering what the Corporal does) would have necessitated Marshall Law to keep Galactica operational.
Hadrian could of pulled this through if she had asked Adama about what he learned on Ragnar Station, and then pressed that it was at least possible that the chief, and Boomer were Cylons. Instead, she went after the old man which evidenced her own Megalomania.
she's correct, but for the wrong reasons. Boomer was often unaware of what she was doing,, being a sleeper agent and Tyrol came from a whole other kind of Cylon
Plot twist: Adama left Hadrian on the ship in her quarters until it flew into the sun.
I don't recall ever seeing her again, so might as well believe that.
@@alduintheanti-dragonborn One of the wikis says she's only in 1x04 and 1x06 but gets briefly mentioned in 2x02. I like how someone said at times a few scenes could have benefited from a marine being a main character, since the marines are often fairly useless and Starbuck or Apollo sometimes pick up a gun and lead an operation even though they are supposed to be pilots.
Hahahahaha
@@usul573 That's kind of the issue with most sci-fi shows. Take for instance Star Trek: Why would you send three of your bridge officers and your chief engineer on an away mission all the time? :D
@@usul573 Spoiler Warning for 2x02:
As cylons had boarded the ship, their targets are Auxiliary Gun Control (so they can turn Galactica's guns on the fleet) and Aft Damage Control (so they can activate the fire surpression controls and vent the crew into space).
The climatic fight at the end is Lee Adama and friends stopping the second group from getting to Aft Damage Control. Before that, Col Tigh gets a report that Sargent Hadrian has trapped the first group in the ship's laundry facility. He acknowledges this with "At least the fleet is safe".
While this is the final mention of Hadrian in the series, it does establish that at some point she was let out of confinement and returned to duty.
Edward James Olmos is one of the few actors who understands that getting quieter makes people pay more attention than getting louder.
I love that on his characer in this show.
Shout and you will be heard, speak and you will be understood.
Yeah, he did that so well as Marty Castillo in Miami Vice.
He played Adama like the grand daddy of the goats he is!!!
Oh isn’t this interesting in 2024.
"This is a witch hunt. I will not have it aboard my ship"
I really like that line.
"Im a soft touch....." LOL
Even a couple of the committee members chuckled at that.
😁😚😅😂😁👍🏽
He’s so petty (sarcasm due to the sergeant wanting to lead her questions because she was mad) and I love it lol.
Just for one second, I like to think of this as a sitcom and hear the applause break after he says it.
He *is* a bit of a soft touch though. Particularly with the female members of the crew.
I love that Adama knows how the legal system works because of his fathers job and can see when he is being played and pushed in to answering leading questions! Very clever scene!
Leading questions are allowed during specific parts of witness examination. However, there are times when leading questions are not allowed - for obvious reasons.
Caprica deserved more
I think that’s what made him the only viable military leader out of everyone in that fleet. He new the military and the law so he could get along with administration.
In dire situations, we need people like Adama, democracy can wait.
@@joncn005 That has nothing to do with democracy. When an inquiry or a trial turns into a witch hunt then said trial it's no longer about law but about prejudice and fear. At that point the trial has lost purpose and legitimacy and it should be brought to an end. Immediately.
Adama proved several times he was in favor of democracy and civil rights. And this scene is just one instance of that.
That soldier did a great job acting with his eyes! Great little acting
Yeah, after Adama said make your choice, he mostly kept eyes on Hadrian - his decision was already made
@@rael7298 I love that detail, and did you also notice after Adama says “make your choice, son.” the Corporal continues fixed on the Sgt. but at 3:41 he gives the ever soo slightest head nod towards Adama just prior to his taking action.. terrific performance. Too bad we only see him once.
His eyes remind me of Bill O’Reilly (Gowron) in Star Trek TNG/DS9.. soo much performance from just a look. It’s awesome in both ST and here in BSG with this actor playing the role of corporal
The Marines play such a pivotal role in many episodes. It's a shame their were no major characters represented in their ranks. Viper and Raptor pilots, the maintenance crew and Galactica officers all had characters.
Yeah that's a good point.
Well...same issue on star trek. No attention whatsoever paid to enlisted personnel...just officers.
I wonder what it would have been like to have a Marine MC.
@@RealityIsTheNow chief O'Brien
@@Autofleet4429 lol the sole exception. The enlisted rank structure consists of crewman...and one chief petty officer. two ranks...one wildly junior and one senior.
As if the marines were going to turn on Papadama.
I didnt think so, and pass up some "rack time" with the Sargent? Lol
Dadama
Half of them tried to kill him during the mutiny.
They did though lol
@@Darklighter75 only the ones from the pegasus and then not all of them either. Enough to cause a major issue though
Adama is like the father figure of the fleet, when he called the soldier "son" it hit home and is the reason why those under his command trust him so much.
Ashleigh Dungate
The brilliant thing Adama did here was remind the sergeant that, at that moment, he did indeed have a choice. He didn't just give an order and expect it to be followed. He empowered the marine by admitting the blunt truth of the situation. A little humility from a leader goes a long way with the people they command.
@@romancultist6089 brilliant comment!
@@romancultist6089 whatever works! :)
Every soldier has drilled into them the concept of lawful vs unlawful order.
It's just like it sounds; you refuse an order if you know that it is illegal or breaks military discipline.
If you obey that order, then you go to jail. If you refuse, the person issuing the order goes down.
No Sergent has the authority to order the Commander to be confined to the inquiry, and he isn't being arrested.
This was an 'independent inquiry' so from the perspective Galactica's military or legal logs, it never happened.
Kudos to the soldier at the door; all Adama had to do was remind him of his Oath.
There is a reason why they call him the old man
A whisper from a real leader carries more weight than a scream from a lesser person.
Not just in the military. I can confirm this in the corporate world as well.
In all walks of life.
Yelling indicates fear... the first to yell in a conversation is providing a losing argument steam...
"Speak softly, and carry a big stick."
Sometimes, wise words can be a weapon.
Adama had already earned his respect and loyalty from his crew.
That’s genius!
Some of the best acting on this show was done by the extras playing Marines.
Adama is obviously in good standing with the E4 Mafia
The 'soft touch' goes far with the E4M. Gotta ensure those newly promoted NCO's know their place.
Facts!
The E4 Mafia I haven't heard that in 20 years those were good days.
@@xxREDFIVExxsame here. I’m going 10 years myself being out. But I still remember being e2 thinking wtf is e4 mafia. Until I made e4 then all pieces fell into place. Being a 13F I didn’t last long before making e5 but I still cherish those days
It's kind of ironic how even though she was on a wild goose chase, she ended up being right about the Chief and Boomer.
Yeah she was correct, but not for the right reasons. She was biased against them because of an inappropriate relationship. She had no clue or shred of evidence in regards to Boomer and the detonators etc
Well it had nothing to do with Chief, or that Adama allowed the relationship to continue.
She was a trusted member of the crew, and would have found an alternative way to have done it.
Even if it had been made public the cylons look human, it would be impossible to create a system where they treated every single person on the ship with suspicion, and in fact you see they don't even after this incident.
So she was wrong on all counts really. Adama didn't provide a means for cylon conspirators to do antrhing they couldn't already have done.
Just because a conclusion was reached through fallacy, doesn't make the conclusion false. Argument from fallacy, fallacy
@@nickh8200 just because she reached the right conclusion doesn't make her some genius worthy of trust or respect. As they say...a broken clock is right twice a day. Doesn't me you should keep it around and depend on it
@@nickh8200 Good Point, but actually it wasn't a Conclusion at all, but conjecture; that's the problem right?
Also, the the rules against fraternaization are mostly unworkable when 99.99% of the population is dead.
"Anyone can be a Cyclon" with no way to detect right? So, the Questioner herself could be a Cylon Collaborator.
I like how he stated the fact that this was his ship.
Every ship belongs to the Commanders entrusted with them, until relieved after a successful tour, or for cause.
Sergeant vs. Commander...That guard choose wisely
Yes he did. It's been a lesson about true authority as well.
Don't forget about loyalty. If you choose to be a soldier, choose your leader wisely as well.
Was this scene before the President made Adama an Admiral?
@@MikMoen I believe so. The Pegasus hadn't arrived yet (wouldn't until Season 2) to create the rank problem, so Adama wasn't promoted.
@@MikMoen it's season one. Pegasus runs into the Galactica fleet in season two.
I love how 2 of the ships captains look at each other in amusement when Adama claims to be a soft touch. They know he isn't, and Hadrian knows he isn't, and it goads her into losing her way.
I wouldn't read so much into it. It was just a joke by Adama signalling he no longer too Hadrian serious.
@@Kalenz1234 John McAree is just another UA-cam cheep that needs to feel important by making up stuff istead of just STFU 😉
Cept isn't that exactly why he didn't stop boomer and the chief? Cause he thought it was harmless?
@@Nomadic813
Because of Roslin's statement that "that we'd better start making babies" hit home.
They were not captains, they were probably high ranking officials or former company CEOs who are members of the civilian population.
3:20 the power of the Adama Glare compels you
No amount of priests is gonna help you there.
The Adama Glare is the most powerfull weapon of the entire series plus several other franchises.. nothing is able to resist it..
And its terminally lethal when combined with the Adama Shield of dissapproval
For those who didn't watch miami vice, the castillo glare was legendary.
Wololo
Yes, it's a glare, though I prefer to think of it as proactive engagement. Also worth mentioning the exchange of glances between the Corporal and the Sergeant at 3:33. Her tightened jaw is a kind of confession. Whether it was 'I admit that I don't know you', or, 'OK, I haven''t a legal leg to stand on' -- I don't know.
I love how Adama gave the Corporal the time to formulate his choice. And how respectful the Corporal was to Hadrian...he knew she was only doing her duty...as she saw it.
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Wasn't due to respect by the Corporal, he was following the orders of the Commanding Officer. Very easy system the military has, shyte rolls downhill.
This was the moment I was sold on Adama. What a leader he was!
he was an agroant basterd just like roslin,they both became dictators.the writing got sloppy and was all over the place
@ Soldiers don't love and respect arrogant bastards, like they did with Adama. Get over yourself.
If you like this episode, check out "The Drumhead" from Star Trek TNG. It's remarkable how similar these are
@@stevenschiro1838 Yeah, it's a very great TNG episode. Picard uses a more diplomatic way to end the sham, using a clever bait to expose the trail for what it really is, instead of just defying it's authority.
Well this is whats called "to overplay your hand"
Commander Adama just used an old Jedi mind trick and reminded the guard who his daddy is. One of my fav BSG moments.
I don’t think a lot of people realize that when Adama says what his orders are and then says “make your choice son” falls back to how he moves as an individual and as a commander. It harkens back to him saying he can or can’t “live” with a choice he makes.
It’s basically make your choice and consequences come what may. Yes anticipate the consequences and consider if it’s worth it or not. Yes mitigate what you can, but at the end of day, after all that, standing in those consequences when they do come. Recognize your were wrong, mistaken, or misunderstood, but own it.
Love how that stare off shows the utter admiration and respect they have for the old man. So good.
The marines respect Adama that they refuse to hear out the Sargent. That's real respect there.
Adama was protecting them from the panel going witch hunt on their asses too.
"Make your choice son" with that comment Adama shows why he earned the reverence his crew give him. Adama was, nominally, at that marine sergeant's mercy and the mercy of the inquiry, civilian control of government being a VERY important concept to everyone in that room (though muddled at the moment by military emergency). But the marine can see the civvies are terrified and looking for someone to blame, the commander that got them through hell is their target, and that commander TRUSTS him that while issuing contradictory orders to the inquiry, allows the marine the dignity of his initiative and judgement. His decision was likely already made when he looked past Adama, but he took the time Adama gave him to fully let that decision sink in and think twice before committing.
Or that was all in the script...
@@kyorin6526 That was such an ignorant comment! It's called the willing suspension of disbelief. Learn it. Use it. But only after you GO THE HELL AWAY!
Having finished BSG a couple of months back (after several years of watching season 1-3 and then quitting for half a year lol), seeing this scene REALLY makes me see how much commander Adama has aged in between season 1 and 4. Really shows the detail put into the show.
It's almost like he really aged during the filming of the show.
@@saschasteenaart7589 Sort of like the men who are President age a lot in the 4 years they are in office.
@@riogrande5761
Nailed it. Saw that in Bush 2 and BHO
Old Iron Balls: "I'm a soft touch"
He's a soft touch, but you best look out if you give him cause to start swinging those iron balls around!
I'm missing context, or just slow, what does "I'm a soft touch" mean?
@@cheerfulgestalt3282 a pushover, which the Admiral really isn't. But still funny AF.
Most epic line in this show.... and he probably did mean it
Seargent Hadrian could have been a Cylon one-off as far as anyone knew.
I was thinking that perfect way to get the Captain out the way then replace with a Cylone
This is the best series ever! Glad it have all of it!!!!!!!!!!
Edward James Olmos just owns every scene... so good!
Such a great scene. Olmos absolutely nailed that character!
I re-watched this episode yesterday, and along with the ST:TNG episode "Drumhead" you get a good look at what military inquiries can be, and when they fly off the rails into what they shouldn't be.
In Drumhead, the off-the-rails came from an activist judge with a chip on her shoulder trying to live up to the shadow of her better father.
In this BSG episode, you see the effects of a poorly structured process (sue to personnel shortages, and/or the desire to bot introduce a new character for the episode) where the investigator (and the Sergeant does a GREAT job at that!) is also expected to be the prosecutor AND determine the scope of the proceedings. A failure of foresight on Adama's part, which is why he saw when it had to end.
I'm glad I wasn't the only one to make that connection. This immediately reminded me of Drumhead; it's amazing how similar both are. Both of those episodes should be required viewing in high school. The importance of the presumption of innocence, the right to remain silent, etc. Also, human's proclivity towards these types of witch trials / drumhead trials and the need to guard against people like Hadrian (BSG) and Admiral Satie (TNG).
As Picard says, these people are always out there, waiting for the right climate to flourish. So we must remain vigilant and aware of these principles, or we will fall prey to them and their line of thinking
I think you can definitely tell that ronald d moor was inspired by a lot of star trek episodes probably ones he worked on because I came to this scene after watching a clip from tng where some admiral was going after picard like the sargeant is adama and all I could think of "this is a witch hunt and I will not have it aboard my ship" and the pegasus arc from this show and equinox from voyager are practically the same
Any way that concludes my inchorent ramblings that no one will ever see
Reminds me of a comment a friend once made of a lesson he learned during his Navy days;
"On ship, the chain of authority is the Captain, his Commander in Chief and God. And the last two are debatable. What is never up for debate is that the Captain's word is law."
Unless the order is clearly unlawful, then you are duty-bound to disobey.
Great scene, even with her being right on the hunch. At that time was no cause to claim two decorated trusted officers collaborators. That changes Adama's tone.
BSG was such an all-time great show.
My father was a Lawyer and My GrandFather was The Boss of The Mafia....I'm going home now....
And he learned well from both of them.
His grandfather was what?!
@@chrisdufresne9359 There was a prequel series called Caprica. Give it a watch. It had so much potential but it only got 1 season which it used to go from the cylon on a drawing board to it in mass production
I would say that if you are a highly respected leader, your men would never turn on you.
GREAT SCENE!!!
"You lost sight of the purpose of the law, to protect it's citizens, not persecute them." -- Absolutely!
@AboveAverageMan97Yeah every single POTUS since at least Reagan probably even further back needs this lesson.
@AboveAverageMan97 You're mixing up prosecute and persecute. It's okay, they're similar words and I'm sure reading is hard.
@AboveAverageMan97silly boy. You’re allowing the kool aid sales people to cloud your mind.
"Make your choice, son."
*boss music starts playing
😎👍🏻
That's a level of bad-assery. Old man runs the ship
Illicit relationships?
"Im a soft touch"
As well as morale is on the gut thanks to the destruction of the 12 colonies.
Any small boost, even relationships, must be welcomed aboard, or become like the early-season Pegasus crew.
He was being pushed into saying he basically let Cylon infiltrators rampant on purpose and hid their identities, which he clearly didn't but that's the power of leading questions.
As they said early on. "We better start having babies".
A random Seargent and wannabe prosecutor vs THE legend of the 1st Cylon War and Commander of the BSG.
Make your choice, son.
That's an E4 that'll sleep well that night.
Not exactly a random sergeant, she's the Master-At-Arms, the head of internal security for the fleet. But obviously her social weight compared to the Commander is still low.
"I'm a soft touch." One of the best understated lines in the series.
I have not watched battlestar galactica yet, just a handful of clips and this is one of the most compelling scenes that make me want to watch the whole thing
It's good
I envy you, watching them all for the first time. Especially when you can get them all in short order. I watched this series as it was coming out, and the wait between weeks, let alone the wait between seasons, was excruciating, and wonderful.
When it was running BSG was, hands down, the best sci-fi on television. Not because it had great fight scenes, or good FX, but because every single one of the characters, even the Cylons, were Human in every sense of the word. They were all great, and they were all flawed.
I like how the corporal's already made up his mind when you see his eyes leave Adama's after receiving his orders.
"I will ask the questions, Sir!"
Questionable in a fleet of the remains of humanity, to directly oppose the pretty much most powerful individual in such a manner.
Gotta admire her tho for taking her role here seriously and not getting intimidated by what's basically the pentagon in one person right now.
I still wonder how the frak she could have misunderstood her assignment so fundamentally. Her task was to get to the bottom of the bombings and find potential infiltrators, not to stir up drama and create a conflict.
@@antred11 The key is context. Two weeks ago billions of people died when the Cylons nuked their worlds. 15 days have passed since then and the Cylons have tried to kill them all hundreds of times. Hours ago someone sneaked a bomb on board Galactica. You are being ordered to investigate the bombing and are told Cylons look like humans now.
During your investigation three deck hands lie about the Chief's location that the time of the bombing. The Chief and Boomer also lie about their location during the time of the bombing. And you find out they were fraking right next to the spot the Cylon infiltrated.
Honestly she was kind of on the right track. She just screwed up by assuming their was a conspiracy from the top without enough evidence.
One of the best clips for the entire series.
BSG best t.v. series EVER.
You gotta know that Edward James Olmos %^&$%^& LOVED this role! Man! Talk about having fun! He really got to sink his acting teeth into this role, and that must have felt GOOOOOOD!
Something to think about. Those two guards were standing there thoughout the entire inquest, they watched every person being questioned and the manner in which Hadrian did it. They knew before Adama did that this was a witch hunt, that's why they chose him over Hadrian.
1:50 "I'm a soft touch."
THE FRAK HE IS!!!! LOL!!
There were only 40k-ish humans in existence, it would be silly to push a rule that prevents possible offspring.
A fellow 40k fan anywhere in the comments section is a joy.
@@BroadHobbyProjects I don't think they referring to warhammer 40k. I think the they were referring to the fact that at this point in the story, there are only around 40,000 humans left alive in the galaxy after the Cyclon attack.
@@startreker20 lmao Re-read what you said and you're right. 😂 Well my response drawn another out at least. Lol
In 5 generations, everyone will be a cousin. Like Iceland.
@@BroadHobbyProjects warhammer is a garbage universe.
Savage Adama!!!!
Savage Papadama. Leader and Father of his people and Captain and Husband to his lady ship.
Talk about Star Trek Captians all one wants,
but EJOs Adama has to be the most badass Comanding Officer ever.
Everyone has a place even your opinion. But leave starfleet out of this because if you knew anything you wouldn't blurt out foolishness like this but that's common on the internet.
@@tech83studio38 I agree, different styles of leadership. I enjoyed both shows and captains.
There is considerable difference in acting caliber between Edward James Olmos and every single actor who played a Starfleet captain.
The gulf is *VAST*.
It sucks that the audio on these clips is so low and the thump at the end is set to blow your speakers out.
I love this show. Moral ambiguity is so much spicier than obvious heroes and villains.
Adama = Badass
"This is a witch hunt" goosebumps.
1:50 Both background extras are trying not to laugh at Adama's "I'm a soft touch" response
YOU GOT THAT NICE. VERY FUNNY.
Pretty sure that was intentional.
It's too noticeable to not be intentional.
@@dynestis2875 Yup, we call that proper script writing.
Such an amazing TV series
I’ve got to rewatch this whole show.
Commander vs sergeant . Tough choise to make ...
Especially when said commander is literally a living frakking legend
Sometimes, you don't realize how badly you miss good writing on TV shows; until you see something like this..
Its funny because an exact same scene appeared in Star Trek Next generation. There was a witch hunt concerning Romulans agents on the Enterprise and they became suspicious of everyone, even its own captain. Picard did the exact same thing as Adama here, refusing to "play along" and outplaying the court.
That sigh...Just so full of sadness and exhaustion. and after he gives the marine HIS orders, and the marine complies, he just walks out of the door like a fuckin' badass.
Should have had a double bong at end.
Sergeant come with us. *Adama walks out like a boss...BONG BONG...LAW AND ORDER
Sorry I was just imagining *Adama walks out like a boss... and proceeds to do two reefer bong hoots*...LAW AND ORDER
I've been watching these clips lately and this is my fav.
Picard would be proud
You know in real life, they almost got the others job ......
@@bensisko4651 Olmos to Stewart, “You play the part better than I do, but one thing. Lose the wig.” Patrick Stewart and Olmos tried out for the part of Picard and Stewart was forced to wear a wig by the producers. Stewart nearly refused the role because of the wig. He thought it was stupid. Olmos agreed. The rest is history.
TNG Picard, yes, movie and Picard Picard, not so much
Strong "Drumhead" vibes here. Both Picard and Adama went through the exact same thing
I was thinking the same thing, of of the best episodes in Star Trek imho
The look on her face was just priceless!!
That would have gone a lot differently if this was made today.
In this scene, I can't help but see Castillo, not Adama.
"Don't ever come up to my face like this again, Sergeant."
I remember watching him as the Lieutenant as a kid. Fortunately for the Sergeant, she was dealing with Adama, not the Katana-wielding Lieutenant who chops up KGB snatch teams.
It takes something extra to be so much shorter than everyone else in the room and still extrude that I’m in charge vibe. A credit to the actor
I have favorited this so many times (and made a meme). Adama tells them how the cow ate the cabbage!
Well considering humanity had a finite number..... allow any relation aslong as it doesn't interfere with positions. Gotta pump those numbers up people.
Still one of the best scenes ever!
That’s exactly how that works!
She was literally trying to get the man that saved humanity to admit he did something wrong and then use that against him to do what? Get him thrown in prison? Demoted? How is that going to help mankind?
Reminds me of the TNG episode "The Drumhead".
But not as good. Adama was never really in any danger by this, unlike Picard.
Good Choice Son
Ahh i love the chain of command... Did u see their faces, priceless.
The choice was between a sergeant who was going way outside her purview, vs the guy who physically saved the ship and 40,000+ people in a single day. Didn't require much thinking.
This scene reminds me of Star Trek TNG when Picard is put on the witness stand and accused.
"You went up agaisnt the old man and you lost!"
what I don't get is why they thought it was a good idea to get on the bad side of the commander of the only warship in their fleet of transport ships.
Standard issue politician thinking: "I'm in a political position, therefore I'm the most important person here and everyone has to listen to me."
Because of exactly what Adama said. He was implicated in an investigation, rank should not matter except to denote responsibility. The law should be honored. Whatever the Sergeant did wrong, she was in the right thinking at least that, and so was the tribunal. She went overboard insinuating that him allowing a relationship was somehow collaboration.
because he made the mistake of leaving civilian society intact for the most part. stuff like this is only one of the reasons why if this show happened in real life, martial law would haveb een called on day one and most civil rights suspended until such a time that peace can be declared once more.
Recall that there were several Democrat leaders that were openly hoping for economic collapse and social disorder in order to hurt their political opponents chance for reelection. Many politicians believe it is better to rule over ashes than to not rule at all.
@@BoopSnoot you mean what basically the entire GOP has been doing for well over a decade?
You mean when everyone with a clue there was some kind of economic collapse coming and it was just a question of it would end up being before or after the election?
Yeah, no love for team blue from me, but you might want to dial down the projection a bit. It's blindingly intense, but I suppose that makes the username fit at least... 😑
Headphones at the end, anyone?
7.1 SURROUND SOUND.. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
i winced at that, and i'm not even wearing headphones
I'M SORRY, WHAT DID YOU SAY? I CAN'T HEAR YOU.
Adama the BAMF
"I'm a soft touch". Lmao.
Adama is a beast!!!!!!
The difference between power and respect. The Sargent had the power, but Adama had the respect.
nah, she didn't really have the power either. Lower rank
@@stonem0013 To be fair, this WAS an independant trial led by a civilian court so technically Adama had no power here, or was not supposed to.
The reality of course is that he's the one military leader above all in this remaining fleet of humans. So good luck getting any soldier to directly oppose him in any effective manner.
@@NtoTheM so in other words, she didn't have any actual power
@@stonem0013 I know it's complicated.
She had the same amount of power like the judge that, in the real world, easily puts any general, admiral or president behind bars.
These people are in a very specific scenario.
@@NtoTheM not comparable, since in the real world a judge's sentences are enforced and respected, wheras in BSG this sergeant didn't have any substantive power, just formal authority.
they tried to outsmart a dude who has countless years of experience of not only in combat, but also learning alongside really good commanders like Nash throughout his career. If anything they only made a fool out of themselves
0:37 Objection! Speculation!
What they should have asked was "were security procedures created or altered to account for human-like cylons?"
Ooh! A Legal Eagle viewer! I would like to see him do a video on this and/or ST:TNG's "Drumhead"
@@MonkeyJedi99 he did one of drumhead.
You get far more attention with a wisper than a scream.
this is honestly one of my favorite moments in the series
Hadrian was right to call Adama out for keeping it secret, but not in a court. She was letting her feeling over being mistrusted blind her to why Adama kept it secret. Worse she could have cost Adama his command and (considering what the Corporal does) would have necessitated Marshall Law to keep Galactica operational.
Hadrian could of pulled this through if she had asked Adama about what he learned on Ragnar Station, and then pressed that it was at least possible that the chief, and Boomer were Cylons. Instead, she went after the old man which evidenced her own Megalomania.
That line of questioning belongs in private with the CO, not in front of a tribunal.
"Quarters" is code for "Airlock"
It’s funny now that Sergeant was completely correct. The Chief and Lieutenant were cylons. Lol
So was Tigh though, so no conclusions can be drawn from that. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
@@GoranXII unless it's a 24 hour clock
Well no one can beat bad writing even Adama
she's correct, but for the wrong reasons. Boomer was often unaware of what she was doing,, being a sleeper agent and Tyrol came from a whole other kind of Cylon
Only Commander Adama could pull that off
What a beast.