yeah..why is that..i THINK they moved into the heavy metal scene early 80's for the record sales..as it was the new big rock scene..made sense money wise but think they get rubbed out of the led zeps, sabbeth,slade and other groups of that era cos of it
Totally Agree I would have been happy with this lineup to have continued. Best lineup apart from the original The 2 records they made... Revenge and Carnival Of Souls were great albums I thought, not perfect albums but still great, I think this band could have done something great musically
Agreed love the way eric double drums. Too bad gene and paul dont let him do it anymore because they want to recreate the old “kiss” sound when all i hear is band thats tuned down because paul cant sing anymore
I've seen KISS live several times. Including before they took off the makeup, during the 80s, this tour, and the Reunion tour. This Revenge tour ranks right there, very heavy, and the show I saw ran a solid 2 hours, 20+songs. Great tour
They were planning on the reunion especially with makeup all the way back during the Crazy Nights tour. For starters, Paul and Gene were asking Ace to rejoin the group but he declined. The song Crazy Nights had a lot of old 70's Kiss tunes in it.
I've seen KISS several times, always with original members but never got to see them on this tour. I wish I had. They sounded great, looked great...what a lineup.
Saw them on this tour and truly amazing because previous tours featured shorter setlists and only "classic" older songs. I remember the disbelief when they were playing all of these AWESOME songs from the past.
These shows ran pretty long. Saw them in Worcester, MA on this tour and I want to say with encores and stuff over 2.5 hours. Saw them on crazy nights tour in 87 and from start to final encore not even 90 minutes.
Gene and paul have always been really good musicians too. They wrote all this stuff, and have adapted really well through all decades. Singer and kulick id say freshened things up with talent and work ethic.
Eric Singer on drums, as Eric Carr had died the previous year. Singer was and still is a consummate pro, with a very tight and fill-happy style. He may not match Peter Criss' groove, but Singer is so technically proficient it's hard to find fault in his playing!
This is the best musicianship era. Kulick approach was similar to Singer. Just know your shit. They took it to next level. Made gene and Paul better. Tight af here!
@@petercriscuola I get it. Originals would have been the perfect story. But, if you couldn't see the vid you must at least hear the audio and performance is just about perfect on "watching you".
That statement is exactly right technically this is kiss at their best listen to Revenge Kiss Alive 3 or Carnival of Souls the classic lineup could not touch this lineup the original four or my favorite but in no way are they better than this line up
I saw this tour in Atlanta, about 2 weeks before this show was filmed. IMO, this tour was the best they ever sounded. They got the song tempos right, great set lists, and I thought Singer played perfectly. Also, Paul and Bruce going back to playing vintage guitars instead of those god-awful, trendy 80s guitars that sounded so screechy made all the difference.
They got their balls back. 80's KISS sucked so bad it ain't funny. I saw them twice during that era in a 10k seater with about 2k there. You could literally walk to the front of the stage and not run into anyone. Sad and painful era.
This is my favorite era of the entire band. The band is just so tight and the set list is perfection. The original band was amazing, but for me.. The revenge era can't be beat.
Phah King agreed! I checked out from KISS at Unmasked and wanted nothing to do with them through the 80’s. A friend bought my ticket for this tour and I was blown away. I’ve been back with them ever since.
Watchin' You was always an interesting song vocally. In the early days Gene sang the first verse alone then Paul joined in for the rest of it. Here they sing it all together and by the reunion tour Gene was doing the verses solo. Excluding the 3 drummers and Paul all singing lead on Black Diamond at times, Cold Gin is the only other Kiss song that I can think of that saw that many vocal differences between the "traditional" version, the 1980 tour and then the reunion tour.
With Eric Carr gone and Singer in, the tempo is slowing. The amazing late 80's shows is where musically Kiss were at their prime. Paul Stanley's voice is on a slow slope of no return at this point. The fans at this point were longing for the old looking Kiss, the unmasked era brought some of the best songs, but Gene and Paul knew this experiment to stay fresh was wearing thin at this stage.
?? This is them returning to form. Eric Carr, God rest him, was a terrible choice for KISS. He rushed like crazy and his drums sounded so weak live. Eric Singer is a world class drummer and had already played with Sabbath and Alice Cooper by this point. This era here totally set the stage for a demand for a reunion. Revenge sold big numbers in contrast to the sad 80's era band (Creatures had some good tunes but that was the last one). 80's shows are painful to watch for us 70's kids - I've tried.
@@countvond233 I have a weird thought about both eras that contradict everything both of y’all said. Simply put, Eric Carr too me was a phenomenal drummer, just had the wrong spot in KISS at the wrong time. If Eric Carr had lived long enough, to see the 90s Revenge Era, he could’ve been on A game, I always loved his heavy drum sound on record, and yea it sounds a bit paper thin live, but I think his studio sound was great. Eric Singer is a great drummer, but he’s too perfect for KISS imo, what always made KISS cool is they didn’t feel the need to perfect their sound, they were ok with it being a bit sloppy sometimes, which Eric doesn’t have, and didn’t play as fast as Eric Carr. To me, I take interest to drummers who have creative drum parts, or play fast, which Peter Criss & Eric Carr had weighing over Eric Singer right from the jump.
When Eric Carr first joined the band back in 1980. His drumming was pretty natural, good, and heavy. But by 84 during the Animalize tour, his drumming went to shit by moving too fast and all over the place at the same time. It's almost as if he was showing off more than he was actually playing the songs.
It boggles my mind that the time from Love Gun in 1977 to Revenge a 1992 was only 15 years, while the time from 1992 to 2023 is 31 years😳 I consider Revenge to be a more recent album 😁
I would say Eric overplays some here, which I'm guessing is sorta of what you meant. Idk if it's b/c the songs are uber simple or he's bored or what, but there are A LOT of unnecessary fills.
Arthur Bishop I know... But I do like this style (mostly for a Change). It gives the classic Kiss songs here a laid back 70's feel (think Frampton or Grand Funk Railroad). Until I heard (or saw) this I never realized how much affect a different drum style could have. Cool.
Kiss Alive is still considered to be one of the greatest live albums in history. It gave Kiss superstardom!
KISS Alive popped my cherry to ent..and I’m still hammering that shit😹
NO! IT IS THE NUMBER 1 LIVE ALBUM. WHAT IS CLOSE?
Out of all of the eras of their storied career I miss THIS Kiss the most.
Mega dittos
The Revenge tour was PHENOMENAL!! A criminally underrated tour.
Saw them at the NEC in Birmingham UK on this tour was a fucking brilliant concert !
Like Creatures!
It was better than Hot in the shade imo
Yeah it has everything like stripper,special effects,pyro it was the best tour imo
Hell yes it was, saw it in st louis
Kiss heaviest era, love it !!
KISS has written some of the coolest songs with great riffs, a lot of them have flown under the radar.
Agreed
yeah..why is that..i THINK they moved into the heavy metal scene early 80's for the record sales..as it was the new big rock scene..made sense money wise but think they get rubbed out of the led zeps, sabbeth,slade and other groups of that era cos of it
KISS was better when I was in the Band.
Each era has great offerings .
The only good era is with me.
Stunned...
Wow. What a set. All cylinders firing. Best of the no makeup era hands down.
Count Von D yes, agreed!
Hot in the shade tour was better ! I saw both
Totally Agree
I would have been happy with this lineup to have continued.
Best lineup apart from the original
The 2 records they made... Revenge and Carnival Of Souls were great albums I thought, not perfect albums but still great,
I think this band could have done something great musically
Nope @@dustycroson5746
No Eric Carr was the best no make up era
Can't say it enough, what Eric and Bruce brought to the band during this era was just absolutely magnificent. Best non make up lineup
Agreed love the way eric double drums. Too bad gene and paul dont let him do it anymore because they want to recreate the old “kiss” sound when all i hear is band thats tuned down because paul cant sing anymore
I've seen KISS live several times. Including before they took off the makeup, during the 80s, this tour, and the Reunion tour. This Revenge tour ranks right there, very heavy, and the show I saw ran a solid 2 hours, 20+songs. Great tour
They were finally”in their own skin” I believe the saying goes
The best period of KISS, post '73-'79.
Kiss started playing a lot of their deep older tunes again in the early 90's. Started making me think of a reunion way before the unplugged show.
Yea... but they didnt need a reunion lol. Watch this then watch a video from the reunion tour circa 96 *ouch*
This kicks the reunions ass
@@johnst.pierre7664 the reunion tour was kick ass!!! Please
They were planning on the reunion especially with makeup all the way back during the Crazy Nights tour. For starters, Paul and Gene were asking Ace to rejoin the group but he declined. The song Crazy Nights had a lot of old 70's Kiss tunes in it.
Actually the greatest version of KISS ever.
Hotter Than Hell…just a great fkn song!
Stanley in Great Shape here Vocals are Spot on..
This is by far my favourite kiss line up
This was a great tour, great album Revenge,great look and great set list.
That rocked.
I've seen KISS several times, always with original members but never got to see them on this tour. I wish I had. They sounded great, looked great...what a lineup.
Agreed. They were at the top of their game at this point in the non makeup era.
Saw them on this tour and truly amazing because previous tours featured shorter setlists and only "classic" older songs. I remember the disbelief when they were playing all of these AWESOME songs from the past.
These shows ran pretty long. Saw them in Worcester, MA on this tour and I want to say with encores and stuff over 2.5 hours. Saw them on crazy nights tour in 87 and from start to final encore not even 90 minutes.
Three very cool songs! Played brilliantly.
Gene and paul have always been really good musicians too. They wrote all this stuff, and have adapted really well through all decades. Singer and kulick id say freshened things up with talent and work ethic.
3 of the most kick ass songs in the history of humanity
This lineup is so fuckin killer man! The best live sounding lineup KISS ever had!
Eric Singer on drums, as Eric Carr had died the previous year. Singer was and still is a consummate pro, with a very tight and fill-happy style. He may not match Peter Criss' groove, but Singer is so technically proficient it's hard to find fault in his playing!
Only One Catnan !
@@pauldunlea6745 Thats for sure, but Eric Singer is a good drummer.
Eric Singer is a beast!!!
What "Groove" did Peter have? Peter was still Peter . . . but he is an awful drummer.
he doesnt sleep behind the kit like peter did in the 90's
" She had to sit on my face" ... instead of " She had to get on the case" in Hotter than Hell...😂🤣😂 nice!!!!!
☺️ this is one hell of a line up.....just love this....so much great music and memories....
My first concert ever back in the early 70s!! Love the drummer!!!!
This is the best musicianship era. Kulick approach was similar to Singer. Just know your shit. They took it to next level. Made gene and Paul better. Tight af here!
i dont like at all.
the 70s were much better.
@@petercriscuola I get it. Originals would have been the perfect story. But, if you couldn't see the vid you must at least hear the audio and performance is just about perfect on "watching you".
@@Blues4Winter im not saying its bad, but it cant touch the 70s.
That statement is exactly right technically this is kiss at their best listen to Revenge Kiss Alive 3 or Carnival of Souls the classic lineup could not touch this lineup the original four or my favorite but in no way are they better than this line up
You're right. I love Ace, but I saw the Revenge tour in London and it was by a considerable distance the best Kiss show - musically - I ever attended.
I saw this tour in Atlanta, about 2 weeks before this show was filmed. IMO, this tour was the best they ever sounded. They got the song tempos right, great set lists, and I thought Singer played perfectly. Also, Paul and Bruce going back to playing vintage guitars instead of those god-awful, trendy 80s guitars that sounded so screechy made all the difference.
Agreed. I saw them in Daytona this tour. Fantastic!
They got their balls back. 80's KISS sucked so bad it ain't funny. I saw them twice during that era in a 10k seater with about 2k there. You could literally walk to the front of the stage and not run into anyone. Sad and painful era.
True Heavy metal drumming!!
Heavy sounding - not metal. Kiss is historically a hard rock band. Nothing in the 70's (true original Kiss) was metal.
@@countvond233 only a few songs can be counted as metal
@@blind_channel_fp nah
Kiss at their absolute best.
they should of kept bruce....
Bruce would never be a fake Ace, He's not that style of person
100%
I like how Bruce kept the essence of Ace's solos while totally making them his own, instead of a direct rip off like Thayer tries to do 👍
Thayer was paid to impersonate Ace so we can’t really blame him, tell Gene and Paul
💯
Best Kiss Line Up. They sounded like a legit hard rock band during the Revenge tour.
Very cool! The solo on Firehouse in particular.
I've always respected Bruce Kulick for honoring Ace's solos without copying them outright
Unlike a certain Mr
Thayer
@@mk84boom Mr. Thayer is only doing what he's told to.
@@mk84boom listen. Tommy is hired and told what to do!!!!! If you want to complain about it then address Simmons/ Stanley about it.
He SHOULD HAVE played the solos right and NOT changed them
@@mk84boom🥱Tired comment.
Eric Singer shredding those skins!!
Eric really brought KISS up a notch…
8:16 I love Paul's little dance XD
That was so corny
singer was on the money
Watching you" killer performance!
Musically this is the best version of KISS! Love it!!!!👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Watching you... my fave!!! Woo hoo 👏👏👏👏✊️✊️✊️✊️
NICE‼️‼️‼️💋🌹🌹🌹🌹
great phase waaaaaaayyyyy better than its now
Best Kiss live era.
This is my favorite era of the entire band. The band is just so tight and the set list is perfection. The original band was amazing, but for me.. The revenge era can't be beat.
Eric Singer still is the best drummer Kiss has had.
That would be Eric Carr
They are both great
Guess again
Eric Carr! Lol! Singer ain’t bad, but it’s Carr for me! And most hardcore Kiss fans would agree!!!
Damn right, Singer is the best drummer in all of KISStory!
Great version!!!
The best of the non makeup era.
Phah King agreed! I checked out from KISS at Unmasked and wanted nothing to do with them through the 80’s. A friend bought my ticket for this tour and I was blown away. I’ve been back with them ever since.
this is the heaviest kiss.
"She had to sit on my face"
lolwut
Lol
Bro their songs of that era are incredibly perverse. Nothing to Lose is about anal
@@drby0788
yah but he switched up the lyric lmao
This band is so special much love KISS always
Specially BORING!!!!
Top of their game here
In my opinion this the better kiss, i don't hate the lineup right now but i prefer this lineup and the classic lineup
全員素顔ですね。曲も素敵です❤
HELL YEAH!
Gene is a superb bass player.
TheStones1965 you are so right.....never gets the credit he deserves
mike de carlo Saw KISS twice. Awesome.
mike de carlo Before the explosions there were four great musicians.
TheStones1965 3 times for me.......would love to have seen them in their prime
Glitter Funny how mediocre musicians sell millions of albums while virtuosos play in local bars or their mother's basement.
« Everybody watch you do?👍 » great , « Come on👍 » it’s ALRIGHT💕wonderful concert💥like and KISS💋😹Fantastic Drummer 🔥it’s FIRE👍
Omg Eric’s mega bell ride kicks ass
the last tour kiss kicked ass..
Seeing unmasked gene breath fire is fucking awesome
Im staying up allnight tonight guys.
Watchin' You was always an interesting song vocally. In the early days Gene sang the first verse alone then Paul joined in for the rest of it. Here they sing it all together and by the reunion tour Gene was doing the verses solo. Excluding the 3 drummers and Paul all singing lead on Black Diamond at times, Cold Gin is the only other Kiss song that I can think of that saw that many vocal differences between the "traditional" version, the 1980 tour and then the reunion tour.
Funkiest kiss I ever heard
Fue la mejor época de Kiss
As good as they ever sounded
Cool Paul move at 9:27
Blue Racer yeah man, like rock ‘n roll taekwando.
Musically, the best lineup the band ever had.
And musicianship wise. Too bad they dont let eric play like he does here with his double bass anymore
9:16 nice sound of solo
I was in the 10th row, best non makeup tour
That bass is GROWLING!!! 😛
Esto es epicamente sublime!!!
Hard Rock perfect!
A dude 7 feet off the ground, ONE GUITAR belting the chords out. NO OTHER BAND IN THE WORLD DOES THIS!
I see why Ace has respect for Bruce
Totally agree and I'm a big Ace fan
With Eric Carr gone and Singer in, the tempo is slowing. The amazing late 80's shows is where musically Kiss were at their prime. Paul Stanley's voice is on a slow slope of no return at this point. The fans at this point were longing for the old looking Kiss, the unmasked era brought some of the best songs, but Gene and Paul knew this experiment to stay fresh was wearing thin at this stage.
?? This is them returning to form. Eric Carr, God rest him, was a terrible choice for KISS. He rushed like crazy and his drums sounded so weak live. Eric Singer is a world class drummer and had already played with Sabbath and Alice Cooper by this point. This era here totally set the stage for a demand for a reunion. Revenge sold big numbers in contrast to the sad 80's era band (Creatures had some good tunes but that was the last one). 80's shows are painful to watch for us 70's kids - I've tried.
@@countvond233 I have a weird thought about both eras that contradict everything both of y’all said. Simply put, Eric Carr too me was a phenomenal drummer, just had the wrong spot in KISS at the wrong time. If Eric Carr had lived long enough, to see the 90s Revenge Era, he could’ve been on A game, I always loved his heavy drum sound on record, and yea it sounds a bit paper thin live, but I think his studio sound was great. Eric Singer is a great drummer, but he’s too perfect for KISS imo, what always made KISS cool is they didn’t feel the need to perfect their sound, they were ok with it being a bit sloppy sometimes, which Eric doesn’t have, and didn’t play as fast as Eric Carr. To me, I take interest to drummers who have creative drum parts, or play fast, which Peter Criss & Eric Carr had weighing over Eric Singer right from the jump.
When Eric Carr first joined the band back in 1980. His drumming was pretty natural, good, and heavy. But by 84 during the Animalize tour, his drumming went to shit by moving too fast and all over the place at the same time. It's almost as if he was showing off more than he was actually playing the songs.
This was their second peak, saw it in st loius
awesome!
No lip syncing here
Son unos dioses, ninguna banda se les asemeja.
Very good
Gene's voice is sweeter then his demon's voice
His voice is the same. Whether he is in character mode or not.
It boggles my mind that the time from Love Gun in 1977 to Revenge a 1992 was only 15 years, while the time from 1992 to 2023 is 31 years😳 I consider Revenge to be a more recent album 😁
この曲好き🎉
Now I have have to listen to Alive! Good performance here though; raw, earthy, simple and unpretentious, like the first stuff
The drumming just makes them sound like rocked out cover songs. Cool fills, but Peter just has that shuffle thing that you can really feel.
Silver Tuna Real shame that a drummer would rock out when playing rock songs at a rock concert.
I would say Eric overplays some here, which I'm guessing is sorta of what you meant.
Idk if it's b/c the songs are uber simple or he's bored or what, but there are A LOT of unnecessary fills.
Arthur Bishop I know... But I do like this style (mostly for a Change). It gives the classic Kiss songs here a laid back 70's feel (think Frampton or Grand Funk Railroad). Until I heard (or saw) this I never realized how much affect a different drum style could have. Cool.
Did you guys notice the change in lyrics in "hotter than hell"?
: )
They were best in costume with all of the original members...those costumes worked for them
Rip rip rip and destroy... Lol
Hahaha you remember that one too. you're a true KISS fan.
Tear It Down And Seal Your Fate
This vid still rocks ......unholy isn't no bullshit either
Gene and Paul confused microphones in Watching you)
Кисс - это класс!!! Обалдеть!
This was maybe their best tour ever..stripped down,done with trying to be Bon Jovi,and just rock out
yes he was being him self thats, the point
When they actually played but now heard they use backing track.
Just stop. The backing track is just for the vocals to back up Paul who's havin trouble with his voice. They still play their instruments.
hope gene does that on the farewell tour
🖤🖤🖤🖤
Paul picking up Gene's dirty laundry at 3:21.
Looking for this show in stereo? anyone??
nice to see them as men not cartoon characters !
Eric did a better job on the classics then compared to him trying to be Peter now.
You never leave her but you know you should. . . This is a combination of ‘Brick House’ by black guys, and ‘Fever’ by Judas Priest