Always amazes me how North America’s infrastructure was built with those pieces of equipment. Definitely a different time. Thank you for showing us all the interesting pieces from back in the day.
Won't it be neat to go back in time and see all these tractors working together. We honor all the work that was done by the few examples that survive. Thank you for bring us what it was like to be an American.
I like the Fordson with the screw pontoons for driving on snow. I can see that winch Fordson in service on an old school oil drilling or service rig given it was made in Oklahoma.
It’s been a few years since I have made it to the Hastings show. But last time I was there I studied that tractor for a good while and watched that whole display run. Definitely one of my favorites at that show.
Excellent video Toby :) did ever see a Farm Auction sale or Mesumn or Farm Equipment Show a 1932 to 1937 Ford Model A car or Truck AA with metal seat in no roof or back seat or rumble seat and below seat had tractor tongue! Plus back wheels were all steal plus tread and 1937 were Rubber with steal ! I seen 2 them had 4 cycle 4 cylinder and transmission was h pattern 2 foward gears and one Reverse! So cool to drive!
Hi Squatch Good to meet you this weekend. My wife and I still can`t believe you tracked us down to meet senior. You were cordial and friendly. Nice to see a couple of knowledgeable straight shooters, Keep up the good work
I so remember one place I worked at on a very large tree and shrub nursery and they have a Fordson Major. I was the only person there whom would drive it, as the other workers couldn't (or wouldn't) drive it. The gearbox was so clunky and the clutch bite was so high, I just got used to it and enjoyed driving it. One worker refused to drive it just on the grounds of it having a metal seat and no power steering. He would try his hardest to get out of the jobs he didn't enjoy.
Nice walk around of that awesome little tractor! I never knew they had a foundry in Muskogee back then (pronounced "muh·skow·gee", like Merle Haggard's "I'm an Okie from Muskogee"). Thanks for taking us on the tour!
That's so cool. How lucky to be able to see the Fordson running the cables and moving the dirt scoop. Nice of those guys to run it while you filmed. A very fun video to watch thank you.
That is a nice manifold in that old Fordson. Some years ago I saw a logging donkey built on a huge skid. Fordson was the power, however the guy doing the restoration said they used GP JD, and McCormick Deering 10-20 too. They replaced the rear wheels with sprockets, and roll chain wrapped around the spools. That was for use in the Redwood forest. I asked how they stretched the cable. His response was Labor was cheap. That was in Willitz California. Tussen Takk.
I was maybe 6 or 7, the sawmill the wood was milled for the house built in '74 was done on a mostly home built mill powered by a '37 John Deere A. Built by a Finn and his son with maybe an 8th grade formal education and a lot of old threshing machine and probably Maytag washer parts. They used an F 12 Farmall with a rig on front like a forklift mast, used a flat belt to a winch that raised loader arms to lift logs off a 1947 IH 2 1/2 ton truck. All that fabricaiton, and they didn't think to put running water in the house. :) Later they had an unstyled WC Allis with a modern "hydraulic" loader, with LIVE POWER all probably made with junk yard parts. Southeastern Todd County MN.
Fascinating ! I watched a UK youtube channel, Casterton Vintage, yesterday, and they showed a similar Fordson converted into a trenching machine, and actually operating.
We were out at a ranch one day by recluse Wyoming, and he had an old horse-drawn wagon that was a belly dump and he had had it since it was built and they used it when they built the highway or the old gravel road to Recluse and he said that the wagon would pull under the loading ramp and a horse-drawn bucket with drag and pull dirt into the loader and it would fall into the wagon and then it was the exact opposite to load he would pull on top of the loading Chute and the bucket would drag it out from underneath it
Nice walkaround for an interesting piece. And yeah, i'd imagine that with how much we've lost to time, there must've been a customized version for just about every job one can imagine. Willing to bet anything that at some point, they would've had something like an ore mill with a tractor adapted to an old school stone ore crusher (the big horizontal ones that could be made from stuff that was on site). Would make perfect sense, because you can "walk" a tractor up to the mine and it would be able to power just about everything. Would explain all the tractor chassis i've seen in exploration videos and old pictures.
Good informational walk around. The abilities of that time is so amazing compared to today. Why design entire new piece of equipment, just design an attachment for the farmer.
The main difference between then and now is the fact that back then, you COULD just build your own “new” pieces to easily modify an existing design, whereas everything now is so micro-managed by computer parameters and non-serviceable components that any modification could cause the entire machine to quit running. Everything now literally has to be designed from the ground up to begin with.
That's a common trick to bypass the original magnet & stator plate ignitor that's mounted to the flywheel, those magnets passing by the stator windings creates the electrical current that feeds the ignition coils - but when the magnets get weak they don't produce the current required to buzz the coils and make the spark plugs fire, so hooking up a battery instead ensures they'll fire dependably.
That white add-on was made by the same company as the #2 sewing machine maker (White, Kenmore, Wards, etc) and spun into White Tractors that eventually bought several other farm equipment brands like Oliver.
Great history lesson! Unfortunately by the time the White Motor Corp took over Oliver and Minneapolis-Moline, they’d developed a reputation for being able to destroy anything they got their hands on. I wouldn’t have dreamed this Tractor Hoist setup came from the same company 👍
Pretty neat! I would hope to get there some year to to see it, maybe I can in the next year or two go do the show in Hutchinson the this one or vise versa
They also used as tiny railroad switch engines Brookville used may adoptions to there locomotives, have photos of one in my photo colection.If you google Ford Power Age mag. You will find a 1927 copy that includes hundreds of Fordson add on to modify including info on the one in this video.
So, have you heard of an underwater dozer? I have a screenshot from Facebook of a Komatsu D155W Underwater dozer. Has a tall stack over the engine. I slapped myself when I got home Friday at forgetting to pull up that photo to show it to you at Hastings.
It's about now I can invisage a drag line from the Rock Pile to the (now finished and operating) Rock Crusher, driven from the PTO on the Farmall with the Bloody Great belt drive Drum :-) ! It's WAY too shiny and clean, it needs to get dirty at least once ! ! !
Yes, so in a nutshell the drives to the rear wheels are still fully intact. The winch drums just rotate on the outsides of the special axle housings, getting their power from the old belt pulley drive mounting - otherwise you’d still drive this Fordson around just like you would before this winch setup was put on 👍
The only sad part to this demonstration of ingenuity from a bygone era is that the old timers built projects faster than we do today with seemingly more efficient equipment. You watch this demonstration and realize how well everything worked it is efficient, it takes more men to work it but look what the old timers accomplished building dams, skyscrapers, and the like in record time, today it takes multiple years to build anything.
That was an interesting piece of aftermarket kit! But I do wonder whether there was a big enough market to justify engineering and marketing such a specialised conversion. Or perhaps there wasn't! How long did that manufacturer last?!
Being made in Oklahoma, that was oil well country and there were quite a lot of winch tractors operating out there back in the day - Williamette was a popular winch maker for the Caterpillar tractors of the day, and those performed an incredible range of tasks with just cables. And that “White” company that made this tractor hoist kit went on to be the “White Motor Corp” that infamously took over and dissolved Oliver and Minneapolis-Moline in the ‘50’s and ‘60’s.
The rock crusher wasn’t a planned purchase, it’s just something that unexpectedly happened so I grabbed the opportunity when it presented itself. I already had a ton of irons in the fire when that happened, and I’m still trying to get some of those other projects wrapped up before tearing into another one. Also, because the rock crusher is very difficult to move I made sure to put it over on the other property where it’ll permanently live, and I’m still in the process of getting enough built over there to be able to do work on things 👍
Hahahaha next they’ll try to put a pulley on the side to run a belt to operate a plethora of devices 🤦♂️ when will the maddens stop!! 🤔 😝 hahahaha ✌️🤙
An interesting machine indeed. However, I really don't see where's the benefit of putting this really complicated setup of "coaxial" winches on the axles instead of just using a more "conventional" double winch, for example on the back of the tractor.
Mechanical creativity was amazing back in the day.
That whole set-up was plain awesome! A person could spend hours having fun making gravel.
That crushing spread would be a fascinating video too. I like the old trucks sitting at the edge of the drop off to keep you from going over.
Always amazes me how North America’s infrastructure was built with those pieces of equipment. Definitely a different time.
Thank you for showing us all the interesting pieces from back in the day.
Exactly…The engineering creativity…Everything was done by common sense and a slide rule 👍🏻🤩🧐
I'm only an hour drive from Muskogee, that's neat to hear that oklahoma made such a thing.
When you go to old tractor/steam shows you realize how much smarter people were.
I'm glad you caught that in action! Half way thru the video I was thinking I'd love to see it operate!
You have to love the way those people figured out how to accomplish a task with what they had.
Won't it be neat to go back in time and see all these tractors working together.
We honor all the work that was done by the few examples that survive.
Thank you for bring us what it was like to be an American.
I like the Fordson with the screw pontoons for driving on snow. I can see that winch Fordson in service on an old school oil drilling or service rig given it was made in Oklahoma.
It’s been a few years since I have made it to the Hastings show. But last time I was there I studied that tractor for a good while and watched that whole display run. Definitely one of my favorites at that show.
Excellent video Toby :) did ever see a Farm Auction sale or Mesumn or Farm Equipment Show a 1932 to 1937 Ford Model A car or Truck AA with metal seat in no roof or back seat or rumble seat and below seat had tractor tongue! Plus back wheels were all steal plus tread and 1937 were Rubber with steal ! I seen 2 them had 4 cycle 4 cylinder and transmission was h pattern 2 foward gears and one Reverse! So cool to drive!
Hi Squatch
Good to meet you this weekend.
My wife and I still can`t believe you tracked us down to meet senior.
You were cordial and friendly.
Nice to see a couple of knowledgeable straight shooters,
Keep up the good work
Thanks! It was great meeting you two as well, Senior still gets a kick out of being recognized by viewers lol 👍
I so remember one place I worked at on a very large tree and shrub nursery and they have a Fordson Major. I was the only person there whom would drive it, as the other workers couldn't (or wouldn't) drive it. The gearbox was so clunky and the clutch bite was so high, I just got used to it and enjoyed driving it. One worker refused to drive it just on the grounds of it having a metal seat and no power steering. He would try his hardest to get out of the jobs he didn't enjoy.
Nice walk around of that awesome little tractor! I never knew they had a foundry in Muskogee back then (pronounced "muh·skow·gee", like Merle Haggard's "I'm an Okie from Muskogee"). Thanks for taking us on the tour!
Nor I. Tulsa had a manufacturing company that produced several Farmall Cub implements as well.
That's so cool. How lucky to be able to see the Fordson running the cables and moving the dirt scoop. Nice of those guys to run it while you filmed. A very fun video to watch thank you.
That is a nice manifold in that old Fordson. Some years ago I saw a logging donkey built on a huge skid.
Fordson was the power, however the guy doing the restoration said they used GP JD, and McCormick Deering 10-20 too.
They replaced the rear wheels with sprockets, and roll chain wrapped around the spools.
That was for use in the Redwood forest.
I asked how they stretched the cable. His response was Labor was cheap.
That was in Willitz California.
Tussen Takk.
I was maybe 6 or 7, the sawmill the wood was milled for the house built in '74 was done on a mostly home built mill powered by a '37 John Deere A. Built by a Finn and his son with maybe an 8th grade formal education and a lot of old threshing machine and probably Maytag washer parts. They used an F 12 Farmall with a rig on front like a forklift mast, used a flat belt to a winch that raised loader arms to lift logs off a 1947 IH 2 1/2 ton truck. All that fabricaiton, and they didn't think to put running water in the house. :) Later they had an unstyled WC Allis with a modern "hydraulic" loader, with LIVE POWER all probably made with junk yard parts. Southeastern Todd County MN.
Just like Navin R. Johnson, it has a special purpose. 😅
Toby these shows you Highlight are just the best ,they showcase a lot of old school engineering thanks for taking us along
That is very, very cool
I love to see the engineering companies put in on aftermarket additions .
Neat old slusher!
That was very clever how they made that work. Gotta hand it to the old timers.
Muskogee Ok is about 38 miles from my house. Very creative modification.
Wow! That’s a neat setup. That could run rain or shine. Thanks for taking us along.👍
Fascinating ! I watched a UK youtube channel, Casterton Vintage, yesterday, and they showed a similar Fordson converted into a trenching machine, and actually operating.
I was there this weekend too! Spent a lot of time in the gravel pit!
We were out at a ranch one day by recluse Wyoming, and he had an old horse-drawn wagon that was a belly dump and he had had it since it was built and they used it when they built the highway or the old gravel road to Recluse and he said that the wagon would pull under the loading ramp and a horse-drawn bucket with drag and pull dirt into the loader and it would fall into the wagon and then it was the exact opposite to load he would pull on top of the loading Chute and the bucket would drag it out from underneath it
I just love these modified machinery. Thanks for sharing
Too bad there isn't more of this type of equipment still around! It's good that this is still doing work! Thanks for sharing! Lots interesting
That’s an excellent display! Full operation!
Nice walkaround for an interesting piece. And yeah, i'd imagine that with how much we've lost to time, there must've been a customized version for just about every job one can imagine. Willing to bet anything that at some point, they would've had something like an ore mill with a tractor adapted to an old school stone ore crusher (the big horizontal ones that could be made from stuff that was on site). Would make perfect sense, because you can "walk" a tractor up to the mine and it would be able to power just about everything. Would explain all the tractor chassis i've seen in exploration videos and old pictures.
I have to say, that was impressive !!!! Today we take for granite, the old ways, of the Olds days. Which wasn't very long ago.
Now that's cool. The winch tractor is amazing and the quarry is fantastic. Thank you!
That looks like a nicely made attachment.
I love seeing the cool mods done to these old fordsons ❤
Watched this old girl work a bit on Friday. Pretty cool to see.
What an awesome setup. Someone spent a lot of time figuring everything out. Very enjoyable and interesting video Toby. Thanks
Thank you for sharing your video, very interesting to see this setup. God bless you and your family.
Good informational walk around.
The abilities of that time is so amazing compared to today. Why design entire new piece of equipment, just design an attachment for the farmer.
The main difference between then and now is the fact that back then, you COULD just build your own “new” pieces to easily modify an existing design, whereas everything now is so micro-managed by computer parameters and non-serviceable components that any modification could cause the entire machine to quit running. Everything now literally has to be designed from the ground up to begin with.
Thanks for the walk around Toby! A pretty neat piece of equipment for sure!
0:28 that really is a darling of a tractor!
Excellent video that is a really neat set up there
Those Fordson's are so cool. I rebuilt a Power Major Diesel in my younger days. Thanks!
That crushing spread is awesome
Thanks for bring this amazing history to us in such a fantastic way 👍🏻🤩🧐😀
Surprising to see that was running 12v electrics.
That's a common trick to bypass the original magnet & stator plate ignitor that's mounted to the flywheel, those magnets passing by the stator windings creates the electrical current that feeds the ignition coils - but when the magnets get weak they don't produce the current required to buzz the coils and make the spark plugs fire, so hooking up a battery instead ensures they'll fire dependably.
Thanks for the video Toby! Now that is a neat little tractor. They were pretty creative in those days to get things done. Cheers
Musk-oh-gee is how its pronounced . That is pretty cool
Great job 👍
A great part of history right there. Thanks for taking the time to share the history of what built this country!!
Crazy awesome.
Like to see more of that plant running. I run a modern plant. That was real work back then
Great video!I love seeing the old equipment and how it was used.You do a wonderful job on all of your videos.Keep up the good work 👍
I love you videos. You are so down to earth.
in my vison squatch bought his favorite tractors from there and took them home with him
super cool display thansk for sharing
What an awesome setup! Thanks for sharing Squatch
That's a beautifully simple solution! Thanks for the video Squatch
That was very interesting great to see some thing like that.
That white add-on was made by the same company as the #2 sewing machine maker (White, Kenmore, Wards, etc) and spun into White Tractors that eventually bought several other farm equipment brands like Oliver.
Great history lesson! Unfortunately by the time the White Motor Corp took over Oliver and Minneapolis-Moline, they’d developed a reputation for being able to destroy anything they got their hands on. I wouldn’t have dreamed this Tractor Hoist setup came from the same company 👍
great videos coming from the show! thanks so much!
Wow that's the coolest set up I ever seen . Thanks for the great video.
Now how cool was that!!! Many Thanks as always for sharing such great stuff!
THAT IS SO ABSOLUTELY COOL!!!!
Wow Toby. Doesn't that make you wish you had a rock crusher? 😁
Absolutely brilliant video 👍
Thanks, Squatch
Thats awesome
Pretty neat! I would hope to get there some year to to see it, maybe I can in the next year or two go do the show in Hutchinson the this one or vise versa
They also used as tiny railroad switch engines Brookville used may adoptions to there locomotives, have photos of one in my photo colection.If you google Ford Power Age mag. You will find a 1927 copy that includes hundreds of Fordson add on to modify including info on the one in this video.
That is super awesome Tobie
Hello again Jan!
Thanks for sharing.
Wonderful work
That was interesting.
That is awesome
AMAZING
Thats a Sauerman crescent scraper setup!
Wow. Excellent!
Pretty cool 👍👍
The whole machine is ALSO being moved with a belt pulley from another tractor... Those were the days!! 🙂
So, have you heard of an underwater dozer? I have a screenshot from Facebook of a Komatsu D155W Underwater dozer. Has a tall stack over the engine.
I slapped myself when I got home Friday at forgetting to pull up that photo to show it to you at Hastings.
It's about now I can invisage a drag line from the Rock Pile to the (now finished and operating) Rock Crusher, driven from the PTO on the Farmall with the Bloody Great belt drive Drum :-) ! It's WAY too shiny and clean, it needs to get dirty at least once ! ! !
Old timey!
great friend!!
Reckon that would make for an excellent centrepiece dio' for a small narrow-gauge layout . . .
Just pounding sand.
Good video
So cool!
That would be Muskogee pronounced mu-sko-gee Oklahoma that is my home town
That's awesome. I don't think I heard it explained. So stupid question could the tractor still drive around if you spool in the cables?
Yes, so in a nutshell the drives to the rear wheels are still fully intact. The winch drums just rotate on the outsides of the special axle housings, getting their power from the old belt pulley drive mounting - otherwise you’d still drive this Fordson around just like you would before this winch setup was put on 👍
The only sad part to this demonstration of ingenuity from a bygone era is that the old timers built projects faster than we do today with seemingly more efficient equipment. You watch this demonstration and realize how well everything worked it is efficient, it takes more men to work it but look what the old timers accomplished building dams, skyscrapers, and the like in record time, today it takes multiple years to build anything.
That was an interesting piece of aftermarket kit! But I do wonder whether there was a big enough market to justify engineering and marketing such a specialised conversion. Or perhaps there wasn't! How long did that manufacturer last?!
Being made in Oklahoma, that was oil well country and there were quite a lot of winch tractors operating out there back in the day - Williamette was a popular winch maker for the Caterpillar tractors of the day, and those performed an incredible range of tasks with just cables. And that “White” company that made this tractor hoist kit went on to be the “White Motor Corp” that infamously took over and dissolved Oliver and Minneapolis-Moline in the ‘50’s and ‘60’s.
@@squatch253 Interesting! You're truly a font of knowledge for vintage machinery! Keep up the good work & best wishes.
Interesting
I don’t think any fellow Okies have beaten me to it but the city that kit was made in is Muskogee.
P.s. Merle Haggard’s song doesn’t hold true today!
When are you going to start restoring your rock crusher?
The rock crusher wasn’t a planned purchase, it’s just something that unexpectedly happened so I grabbed the opportunity when it presented itself. I already had a ton of irons in the fire when that happened, and I’m still trying to get some of those other projects wrapped up before tearing into another one. Also, because the rock crusher is very difficult to move I made sure to put it over on the other property where it’ll permanently live, and I’m still in the process of getting enough built over there to be able to do work on things 👍
🤗❤️👍
Hahahaha next they’ll try to put a pulley on the side to run a belt to operate a plethora of devices 🤦♂️ when will the maddens stop!! 🤔 😝 hahahaha ✌️🤙
What won't they think of next?😊
An interesting machine indeed. However, I really don't see where's the benefit of putting this really complicated setup of "coaxial" winches on the axles instead of just using a more "conventional" double winch, for example on the back of the tractor.
When your tractor can't tractor, you improvise?
Is this a to come Fordson rock crusher