I think most reviewers are missing the point with the WearOS 3 update: How will the watches perform AFTER the update? There needs to be a second look review. I think it's not a big deal that the watch runs WearOS 2 as long as it gets a decent update but on the other hand seeing app support being pulled this fast is alarming especially for older watches.
Don't bother doing a revisiting video on this one. Wear OS 3 broke it. Here's the highlights: Watch now uses its own Fossil App...which is kinda garbage over the Wear OS app, and basically an advertisement platform for their real watches. Google assistant is gone. That Google side feed thing....gone, replaces with just another way to see the lack of tiles they offer you. Still missing BASIC stock apps like a calculator or a calendar. Still no companion apps for even things like Gmail, FB messenger, etc ( all things we used to have back when SmartWatches were around saying the Moto 360 days) Amazon Alexa works...but needs to reconnect almost every time...which takes 30 sec...might as well use your phone or your own voice. 2/3 of the watch faces have been removed for "space" or some garbage, instead of just giving you the option to remove the ones you don't want. Wanna use faces from the pre installed Facer app? Go ahead, but almost every watch face flickers like its at a NYC after hours club...white watch faces are the absolute worst for this. Battery drain seems to have increased. With All Health apps deleted, wifi off, nfc off, raise to wake off,volume off...basically everything off accept always on display and using a watch face from facer, putting the watch on at 10:30 am....it was near death and switched its mode by around 9:30ish that night.. that was with minimal use just clearing applications and I think I used the NFC once to make a payment and then turned it off directly after... so battery life has decreased. ( and no it has nothing to do with how long I've had my watch because I've only had it for a couple of weeks) Unless you set your battery option to change at 10%...it'll just randomly decide to change it...sometimes at 20%....sometimes 15%....once it didn't enable it at all... so it's inconsistent or based on your usage which I don't really think it is.. The new OS 3 on this watch clearly looks like it was designed for a square watch face even down to when you scroll through your notifications you can see that they are rounded Corner boxes that are just Blended in to the black background to blend in with the large bezel these contain.. ( which I still don't understand why any high-end watch company has a thick bezel like that when I tech company like Samsung can make a watch that doesn't have one🤷♂️) Basically if you didn't take the update yet don't bother.
Man, this Google-Samsung partnership is really starting to look like Google abandoning Wear and handing it to Samsung. I gotta feel bad for Fossil, they've basically carried Wear on their back for the last 3 years and for their effort they're getting shafted. The Gen4 was my first ever smartwatch and made me fall in love with Google's smartwatch platform. Now, we get unreliable communication from Google, continual delays and questions being raised, and for what? More apps on the Galaxy watches? We still don't have anything resembling a timeframe for WOS3 on Ticwatch, much less Moto or Fossil!
totally agree... however maybe they are waiting to release the pixel watch before turning over wearos 3 to other manufacturers? getting it on the Samsung watches gives app vendors motivation to improve their apps in the meantime. idk... I'm probably wrong
@@wmurch3 I don't know, if that was the case then wouldn't they be motivated to give it to Samsung and Fossil at the same time? Or at least closer? (As in, less than a year apart, as they seem to be doing now?) And even then, why not announce a project? Surely getting the hype started early by announcing a Pixel watch alongside the Samsung partnership would be a good idea? Then they're at least pretending to have faith in the OS... To me this seems just like Google is announcing they're giving up, but trying to make it look like the exact opposite. "Eat their cake and have it too," if you will...
I think you might be right. It's funny I was just thinking the same thing with the Nexus program and what's happening with the Pixel. I know Samsung was technically the first Nexus manufacturer, but it seemed like Google had LG doing the heavy lifting for years and years and then HTC as well... they ate HTC's guts out and destroyed them, put LG out of the phone business, and then cancelled the best spec for your dollar lineup that was the Nexus for the wannabe iPhone Pixel line. I'm glad we got the camera know how from that, so it's not a total loss. But now it seems like they're basically doing like Wear and just kind of handing the keys to that back to Samsung as well in a way with them making Google's new chip and camera sensor apparently for the new Pixel. Could be a good in the end, Samsung makes some ok stuff but it is pretty shitty how they did these other companies along the way.
@@theColeHardTruth you could be right... I honestly have no idea what Google is thinking half the time (and I don't think they do either). The Samsung partnership is really strange the more I think about it. It doesn't really showcase Wear Os 3 at all and doesn't even have Google Assistant... The bedrock of any Google device. Google must have come to Samsung and met all of their demands to save them from themselves.
@@wmurch3 That's what I'm thinking. And while it would have been a shame to do so, if they had just announced that they're giving the keys to Samsung it would have at least been some sort of self-aware acknowledgement and a lot more respectful to those who they've essentially been ignoring all these years... My dream would have been for Google to give the keys for Fossil instead; their battery optimizations and under-the-hood improvements to WOS2 have done well to patch the OS to be great IMO. In case you couldn't tell I really don't like the way Samsung operates and much prefer the way Fossil handles their operations, but even I have to admit there's no way that Google would partner with them.
Anyone feel like these watch faces are *still* a bit lacking? Maybe it's just me but it's so hard to find a genuinely aesthetic watch face on a smartwatch these days...
@@cstavaru I guess you mean “before wearOS”, Apple Watch has been around for years and Samsung lowered battery life only recently (especially migrating to wearOS)
@@mastrocla No, I mean Apple Watch. The last 2 or even the last 3 Tizen watches had horrible (read: a bit better than Apple Watch but only just) battery life.
Agree with @cstavaru about Samsung being the gold standard for battery life. What was bizarre was their last Tizen effort. They had been making 3-5 day watches for years and I was ready to buy the Samsung watch 3 (I think it was that) until I found out that the battery took a huge step backward. And Fossil and everyone else is still/forced to use these garbage snapdragon chips. The 4100+ is built on a 12nm process, whereas the galaxy WearOS watch uses a exynos w920 built on a 5nm process. That's why Samsung is able to build a WearOS watch that's 9.8mm thick and I'll be shocked if the gen 6 is any thinner than 12mm (couldn't find anyone providing that dimension, but the gen 5 was 12mm thick). The "next-gen" snapdragon 5100 is also shaping up to be a dumpster fire. I'm always surprised that Qualcomm's platforms for the one platform that needs better battery life even more than smartphones is relegated to these large die process, battery hog chips. Screw you Qualcomm and the 🐎 you rode in on.
I'm rocking their hybrid watch, it's just a better-looking device and the battery is unbeatable. I'll maybe get a touchscreen watch when they get to Gen 20 or so.
@@blaster915 control music - yes. you didn't ask but look for phone - yes. voice reply no :/. You can see notifications and read the first few lines of emails etc but you can't reply to them. There's also a little dot at the bottom of the screen if there are any. Battery at least 10 days. It's also very customizable, you can set your own background or look for backgrounds online, and you can change what 2 of the 3 buttons do.
I have to be honest, between the WearOS situation, the Apple Watch being pretty much locked down to Apple's ecosystem, and my own watch preferences (at least having analogue hands, without exception), I just can't get excited for smartwatches. They're neat - the reason I keep watching smartwatch reviews is _because_ they're neat, and I think they genuinely benefit people, but for me, they're just not what I want at this point in time. I've spent time using them too, but they're just not for me. Maybe one day we'll get a proper smartwatch (not those "hybrid" ones that don't do a lot extra) with a screen over top of a genuine clock mechanism, whose features work on whatever phone you want to pair it with instead of some arbitrary limitations Samsung implies aren't there but definitely are, but until then, I'll likely just keep admiring them from afar.
Couldn't agree more. I will always watch videos on these things and begin to get excited before boom, some nonsense that makes it useless. Genuinely, the closest I feel we got to a real smartwatch without dumb compromises was the Pebble line-up, which is why I still carry one to this day. But even then it's far from perfect. At least it can last more than a day on a charge
I have a samsung watch and phone and it works perfectly...as supposed to be. You sound like that person who trys to put a playstation game in an Xbox system and then get mad when it doesn't work.
@Kiel Enrique To be fair, if you were already into watches, and willing to pay the premium for said watches, I can see why smartwatches would be a bit of a no brainer Basically paying the same ish price for something that does a lot more, so why not at that point
@@lolagepwned Same here. For now I just use cheap fitness band for HR and Sp02 tracking during exercise and sleep, and use my regular citizen watch for other occasions. I might buy the ticwatch pro 3 once it has gotten the update to wearOS 3.
The "Dream Watch" you describe is STILL BASICALLY A HYBRID. The Fossil Hybrid and Garmin range has gone a long way in discreetly making you smarter than your neighbor.. sometimes you need to shift the post in order to be satisfied.
If this was running WearOS 3 I would not hesitate to buy it as I am exactly the kind of person who dreads the, in my opinion, hideous rectangular Apple Watch (and all the wannabes) and super sporty Galaxy and other watches. Unfortunately I am not willing to buy a watch with a promise of a future update. Hence I will probably wait for Gen 7 (hopefully with standalone internet connectivity too) or some other competing product.
IMO, the Apple Watch makes sense to be a square (every other product except for the HomePod, AirTags, Magic Mouse, and AirPod line up is). What upsets me is Fitbit (a Google company) still using the square when circles are just better looking. Not to mention Fitbits are still on that clunky and ugly excuse of an app. Same thoughts with Oppo and it's smartwatch offering, which is arguably the most beautiful of the Square Smartwatch Group, taking heavy relation to an Oppo phone with it's curved screen. But it makes sense for Oppo to keep the 4 sided approach (unlike Fitbit), since they use a extremely customized version of Android for their wristphone offerings in China, so instead of suffering to try to make Android work in 360°, they just skin WearOS (if I remember correctly from MrMobile's review of the Oppo watch) to look like that Asia-based variant. The watch-esque Fruit that goes on your arm (Apple Watch), it's not ugly, but it's not the most beautiful, espeicially in comparision to the Skagen Falster 3 (my personal favorite from Fossil and Friends.). I doubt the iPhone maker will make a circular watch soon since watchOS is too old to completely redesign the entire operating system. *(EDIT: I mean it's too ingrained, so if Apple wanted a round watch, the OS would have to be completely redesigned from the ground up)* Though, if they do take such a challenge, the fruit's smartwatch design would skyrocket. PS. Finding new ways of saying smartwatch, circle, and square is very hard and I find it annoying when someone uses one singular word 100 times. So enjoy sayings like "wristphones" and "Android in 360°" instead LOL.
I'm left handed, so I wear my watches on my right arm. If the only way to scroll is with the crown (which is on the right of the watch), I will have to use my left hand in an awkward position. I think Samsung's rotating bezel is the best approach.
Samsung left Tizen OS to make google happy because google is buying samsungs display, images sensors, camera modules as well as using Samsung's foundary to build google chip. Tizen was much better and faster
@@TomTomdog Tizen is a horrible OS that is still on the GW3 and prior watches especially coming from WearOS. At least with wear OS3 Samsung has opened the OS thanks to Google.
So who was NOT fooked when Windows went to a graphical interface? It is all in the business manual for your life WORK HARD cause you WILL want a NEW thingamabob as soon as one is available
@@GarryChenYT Sure, but you've got to remember that Fossil Group brands and partners include Skagen, MK, Diesel, Puma, Citizen, Armani ... and that's just off the top of my head. Fossil's not Samsung, but it moves some units.
@@TheMrMobile well Samsung probably pushed for some exclusivity. I'm wondering if there's more to this. There's been one glaring problem with WearOS that no amount of software can fix. Lousy hardware, specifically from QUALCOMM. The 3100 was barely better than what came before and the 4100 while better is still way way behind apple silicon. Sammy for better or worse is making a more compelling watch SoC with a newer process. Now combine this with a supposed pixel watch and you can see why WearOS 3 isn't coming out till next year for a limited amount of current watches. Google I think is ready to give QUALCOMM a giant middle finger to their lackluster lip service to WearOS.
I've been using Fossil Gen 5 for the past 2 years and kind of like it. My next smartwatch, though, should have significantly longer battery life and LTE capabilities. It's far more essential than another software update or any additional application.
Will be buying one of these and a Pixel 6 as a replacement for my Apple Watch Series 4 & iPhone X, both are a few gens old at this point and the batteries are starting to wear out. as well as I'm moving back to Android as the Apple devices don't fit in with the rest of the tech I use these days, so Android makes more sense for me now. When researching what watch I wanted to replace my Apple Watch, it was a tough decision since the Apple watch is excellent, but this has to be the best Wear OS device on the market. Not interested in the new Samsung watch despite it also now being Wear OS, it's not as nice looking (style is important in a watch) and even though it's running Wear OS 3, I dislike the Samsung UI on top, it's the reason I avoid their phones too. Like the Pixel I'm going to pair it with, I want a pure Android experience and I feel that the Fossil watches offer the best pure Wear OS experience in a very nice looking package. Shame it won't get Wear OS 3.0 until next year.
I love myself an analog fossil any day, with 11 years repair guarantee... you can't go wrong. For smartwatch Samsung won me over .. its a shame about the battery life, I hope an update would improve it to at least 48 to 72 hours
I only wish for next gen Fossil Hybrid smartwatch as the Collider/Charter is getting almost 2 years old now and to me is still unmatched by any other smartwatch
Man I never thought I'd still be on my Honor Magic Watch 2 but every smart watch's battery life just keeps sucking and sucking and sucking. I mean slight sarcasm aside, I get it, mine is only about 95% of a full smart watch. But seriously it's like 95% of a full smart watch, (maybe more? All I can't do is reply to texts on watch or use voice commands and play any games or Google branded apps) and I can go a full week plus a day or 2 on 1 single charge easy. Why is there still such a massive gap? Is having my fat ass' workout stats delivered to Xi's desk really the only other caveat? :P
This is why i stay away from wear os watch and apple watches coz of the poor batt life, i'd keep my amazfit gtr 2 for a while where i could have more than a week of normal watch usage and 48 hrs when i use it as a music player..
You said it right there. I down graded from an Active 2 to Galaxy Fit 2. And honestly I was surprised by the 10ish days battery of life, so after 6 months it actually feels like a battery upgrade with necessary notifications and affordability. If any manufacturer can come up with a 2 week-ish battery, round face and wear OS 3... I'm jumping ship 😆 (I guess ultra power save mode with galaxy watch 4)
@@beezrow it's just too much of a hassle to keep charging your watch when you are on the go, manufacturers keeps adding more and more features that you don't really need.
I'm not too picky with smart watches but nothing is perfect but if the game can be upped in a way they pleases more people, that's better for everyone, including myself.
Both pushers are totally functional, as always. You can program each to a custom shortcut (in fact you can see me activate the timer/stopwatch with one of them at some point in the video).
@@TheMrMobile That's awesome! Seems like a very useful feature to me. Making my decision between this and the Watch 4 Classic even more difficult... Thanks for the reply, and the fantastic reviews as always!
Great review as usual. It sounds like is the Fossil Gen 6 was released with Wear OS 3 it would be a no brainer for those looking to buy a Wear OS watch. This is making me regret not buying the Ticwatch Pro 3 when it was on sale for $197.99 in June.
Both ticwatch and gen 6 have not received os3. And by the way its going it looks like ticwatch wont be getting os3 at all. Fossil is atleast still giving updates about the update and looks like gen5 maybe getting the update too.
Fossil didn't fix this issue (charging circles coming loose) the way I wanted. I'll wait to see if people have the same trouble with it. How I wanted them to fix it? put the 4 pins on the watch, and the half circles on the charger. The issue with the earlier gens is water, sweat, and other liquids would slowly cause the circles to separate from the body. I hope they did fix it, but I'm probably done with their watches.
the funny part is that now that samsung isn't using tizen any more it becomes a question of brand against brand, tizen was morew stable and battery effecient than wear now they both use it so it's harder to distinguish them now, samsung has awful battery life now because of wear, suddenly fossil is looking interesting that ofcourse meaning if they release a design like the gen 5 as this particular gen 6 is just well i wouldn't say ugly but not for me compared to that pretty silver one next too it that plastic back is also not looking very attractive, so design wise samsung is better compared to that one
True but Samsung wants a chunk of non Samsung users getting a hold of Samsung gen4. They are happy to let go of their tizen format for more $ and less of L.
Great preview video! I'm really looking forward to this watch. I've been on the fence about the GW4 and haven't been able to pull the trigger. It's the same with the Ticwatch Pro 3 GPS. Neither one has anything screams, "I've got to have that watch", for me.
My first and only smartwatch that I use to this day is a trusty Fossil Gen 3 venture. I'm really a sucker for the more sleek and elegant designs by Fossil. But as much as I like the Gen 6 my Gen 3 still holds up for the simple stuff as showing notifications and being a remote for spotify. Do the newer gens offer something vastly superior or are they more of convenience upgrade?
As someone that primarily uses my 2018 Galaxy Watch for fitness tracking, the insane battery life of the TicWatch 3 Pro is a huge plus. Such a shame all these new watches don't get a similar layered lcd display and a "basic" power mode..
Keep an eye on the hybrid e-ink models. They're not quite the same but 10-12 days of battery life and some fitness stuff, that's awesome. Maybe they'll have NFC in 1-2 generations
@@tgwnn Agree the Fossil Hybrid HR watches could easily replace my Wear, Galaxy and Pebble watches. The fitness walking/running results are on par with the Galaxy watches.
@@randyb3576 plus I can easily track my sleep schedule with it even if it's not 100% accurate. If I have to charge it every day or every 2 days, it's a nuisance to make sure it's loaded by bedtime. It is a little buggy but overall I love the experience.
I might say i am kind of happy with the TicWatch E3, but i can feel the bugs and problems, also I'm not using as much as a regular person might, one of the reasons is because I can't carry a charger to the place where unlike to take the watch, full weekends outdoors and hard conditions makes me think a lot about using the pins of the strap as a charger (that's why I asked) because it's already there, you can charge while in a bike ride knowing it won't disconnect, also you might be able to have an strap with extra juice to run the watch with battery for longer periods of time. Silly idea?
I have Gen 5 Fossil and right now I can't see any reasons to upgrade to Gen 6. Probably it will not change until the end of 2022. If the new Wear OS will be better then I will consider an upgrade.
It's like someone told Fossil they had to choose between good battery life and an edge-to-edge screen and Fossil said "no thanks". How is that massive bezel acceptable when Samsung and Mobvoi have zero gap between the screen and watch frame? I guess we're supposed to be thankful they didn't bring back the flat tire.
I've been an Android Wear user since the LG G Watch R and I love my smart watches. My current Fossil Gen 5 has been my "checks all the boxes" watch for a while now. My one gripe with it is the rotating crown gets very gummed up over time with no feasible way to fix that other than contacting Fossil and sending my unit in for repair (usually takes a month or so). On the other side of things, I've always loved the fluidity of the Samsung watches and especially the rotating bezel but could not stand to part with Google Assistant. I was hoping Fossil would adopt the rotating bezel and bring Wear OS 3 to the Gen 6 at launch. I think the new Samsung watch needs a fair bit of software love to get things to where I want but would be my choice over the Fossil. Gen 6 seems to be my Gen 5 with bumped specs and different shell.
I just ordered this watch. I pretty stoked. My first smartwatch. I used to wear watches when i was younger and finally decided it was the right time since smartwatches have improved.
Really torn between the Galaxy Watch 4, Tic Watch Pro 3 and now the new Fossil. I have an LG V35 so I wouldn't get all the health benefits from the Galaxy Watch so I feel like I'd be paying a premium I won't be able to use. The TWP3 battery and second display look really appealing, but not sure how reliable and buggy the watch will get overtime. I've been using the TW E for the last few years and need a serious upgrade. Anyone know exactly what can't be used on the Galaxy Watch if you're a non Samsung user and anyone who doesn't use a Samsung have the new Galaxy Watch 4? What's your thoughts? Hearing you have to sign up and download multiple apps which sounds annoying... Side note, I use Google Pay and Google Fit so not sure how that's implemented into the Galaxy Watch 4. Cheers!
Is Wear OS 3 such a big deal over 2.3 when the SD 4100+ can run it well? I mean Mr Mobile said it himself that it dose run well beside tiny bugs and battery life is on pair with competition. With the Samsung watch the big deal was that it offered better Google integration and again paired with a better SOC it run well. Is it the SOC the software that needs real improvment?
You have used the gen 6, ticwatch 3 pro and the galaxy watch 4. which one would you recommend? Is there a huge difference between the wear os 2.3 and wear os 3? Which one should i buy?
Wouldn't recommend buying fossil from personal experience, bought a Gen 4, it was fine for the first month or so but then became incredibly slow and almost unusable. I sent it back to them for repairs, when it came back it was still just as unusable. I sent it back again and got a replacement, this again worked for about a month before it stopped charging and the back fell off. However, this time it was out of warranty, so they couldn't repair it, and I couldn't justify paying to repair it given that I knew it would just send up slow and unusable again. Maybe they've changed, but I certainly won't be buying a fossil smart watch again. I own an analogue fossil watch which works perfectly and I use daily. And a hybrid which is again perfect but just needs a new battery at the moment.
I bought a Michael Kors Access Grayson back in the day. While the watch looks really good considering its a Smartwatch, The Processor and Wear OS itself was so buggy that time that the watch is almost unusable right now. I think buying that watch was my biggest tech mistake.
Being a pixel 4a owner I waited to try wear os and opted for with a Garmin Vivoactive. It does what i need and the one thing I'm spoiled with is battery life. Guess I'll keep waiting right now.
it's embarassing how told old galaxy watch 46 mm can do over 3 days of battery with aod on and not a single other smartwatch can not even the galaxy watch 4 classic
Contrary to those earlier replies, this isn't a Tizen-vs-Wear OS thing (as I said in the video, the Wear OS-powered TicWatch Pro 3 can last 3 days on a charge). The Galaxy Watch 3 was the first to really take a dive on battery life, and it still ran Tizen. Reason for the reduction in endurance is because Samsung wanted to make it smaller, so it included a much smaller battery starting with GW3.
@@TheMrMobile yes,.. that one too.... if we compared gw3 (340mah with tizen) rated for 2 days.. and gw4 classic (361mah) with wear os rated for 40h... *of course the reality always lower that that rating.... i could say tizen little bit efficient, but higher ppi display maybe could be other reason.. and also og galaxy watch only has 472 mah, while pro 3 is 577... and both rated almost same battery life.. but it could be other reasons too... like 0.1 inch screen, different time released, and screen resolution.. so i still think tizen is more efficient, but not a lot..
I've been out of the Smartwatch game since the Fossil Gen 3, even though I was a WearOS early adopter. This is looking like a decent option for me once 3.0 is out. (Still nothing matches the design of the original Moto 360, also loved the og Huawei watch...)
Had a fossil q gen 1 looks wise one of my favorite smart watches wear os has been meh for years it wasnt awful but yea sometimes glitchy and almost no support, google and samsung will continue to lose market share and relevancy to apple until they both somehow create an ecosystem to rival apples its no longer a one device sale, its a lifestyle choice
The wearOS 3 is a deal breaker but only if the pixel watch is released before March, otherwise it's just the overskinned galaxy watch 4 so then this could be a choice for many?
"No preview" means the same thing as that, so I don't use the same phrasing every time. My policy on all of that has remained unchanged since 2016. If it changes, I'll make it clear.
Great review...very indepth! This was like reading the manual but more fun :) Do people even read manuals anymore though...lol. Great job on your video :)
Every single time I get a notification on this watch pulling up my sleeve swipes away the notification on both the watch and my phone so I never get to see it. This happens at least 10 times A-day.
Really unfortunate..I was ready to pull trigger on gen 6 soon as it was announced till I found out it's not running the new wear Os and won't till next year.🤷🏾♂️ Oh well, I'll wait till then or for something better.. hopefully google will give us a pixel watch
I dont know if it's willfully for sales purposes..Hence launching half baked products. Manufacturers are just not making them upto the mark. 1-2 day battery life is a joke. LTE should be a mandatory. Bluetooth based watches are mere toys. Plus it's been almost a decade now brands are trying to figure what to do.... 😂😂😂😂
I have been using a Fitbit Versa 2 for a few years now. But I an looking for an Android counterpart to the Apple Watch. I like everythjng about the Fossil, Google, and Garmin watches, but the one feature I cannot find anywhere is if pictures sent through text or FB messanger can be seen on the screen like an Apple Watch.
Same old story with Fossil and WearOS... good/nice hardware questionable software. no thanks. So basically nothing good materialized from googles Fossil IP buy out from a couple years ago...??? I was hoping for better OS stability. It seems like Ticwatch and now Samsung are ahead of the game and Fossil is really playing catch up.
Yeah, I've got a $400 gen5 paperweight because fossil is abandonware. Legit Google integration has been broken since six months after release on the Gen5, Google has decided to abandon wear, and fossil refuses to update the watch. This is a hard pass. Good tech. Absolutely SHIT company.
Wait!!! HMR 3 Update ?? The system update is just HMR 2 Right , I think you got spelling mistake in the description please check Big fan of yours!! Thanks for making amazing videos
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Your script writing skills are unparalleled
Dont you people ever get tired of fawning over his scripts?
@@baldponyta7940 only as tiring as your whining
“Repetitive rectangles of apple to simplistic circles of Samsung” (keeping the flame of alliteration alive 🔥)
@@mikeymexico cant help it im a ponyta. Whats your excuse?
@@baldponyta7940 trying to be more positive homy
i am so used to promos that i didn't notice there isn't one here
Only 6 of the past 10 videos on the channel have had baked-in sponsor spots. Where ya been? :)
@@TheMrMobile in my cave crafting with a nokia 3310
@@TheMrMobile i know it isnt a "smart watch" per say buy,any input on when a review on the mi band can come?
@@TheMrMobile also,awesome video as always =) thanks
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These watches are underrated in the uk it’s crazy you can’t wear a fossil smart watch without some Samsung or apple fan boy calling it trash
6:30 I love how Michael isn't in the pocket of any corporation. This keeps his reviews honest and real!
He has the best disclosure statement on UA-cam haha
Lew from somewhere could take notes.
@@Matanumi true that, man
Do people actually wear a watch to sleep. Sounds uncomfortable if you hit your face be accident.
I think most reviewers are missing the point with the WearOS 3 update: How will the watches perform AFTER the update? There needs to be a second look review. I think it's not a big deal that the watch runs WearOS 2 as long as it gets a decent update but on the other hand seeing app support being pulled this fast is alarming especially for older watches.
Could you update to 3 after you got the watch or would you have to buy a whole new watch.
@@katelynbrennan6395 , you can update as long as you have a gen 6.
@@katelynbrennan6395 Existing users can update but all the user data will be erased after updating.
Mr Mobile has been my smartwatch and fold "go-to" channel. Thanks for this review!
Don't bother doing a revisiting video on this one. Wear OS 3 broke it. Here's the highlights:
Watch now uses its own Fossil App...which is kinda garbage over the Wear OS app, and basically an advertisement platform for their real watches.
Google assistant is gone.
That Google side feed thing....gone, replaces with just another way to see the lack of tiles they offer you.
Still missing BASIC stock apps like a calculator or a calendar.
Still no companion apps for even things like Gmail, FB messenger, etc ( all things we used to have back when SmartWatches were around saying the Moto 360 days)
Amazon Alexa works...but needs to reconnect almost every time...which takes 30 sec...might as well use your phone or your own voice.
2/3 of the watch faces have been removed for "space" or some garbage, instead of just giving you the option to remove the ones you don't want.
Wanna use faces from the pre installed Facer app? Go ahead, but almost every watch face flickers like its at a NYC after hours club...white watch faces are the absolute worst for this.
Battery drain seems to have increased. With All Health apps deleted, wifi off, nfc off, raise to wake off,volume off...basically everything off accept always on display and using a watch face from facer, putting the watch on at 10:30 am....it was near death and switched its mode by around 9:30ish that night.. that was with minimal use just clearing applications and I think I used the NFC once to make a payment and then turned it off directly after... so battery life has decreased. ( and no it has nothing to do with how long I've had my watch because I've only had it for a couple of weeks)
Unless you set your battery option to change at 10%...it'll just randomly decide to change it...sometimes at 20%....sometimes 15%....once it didn't enable it at all... so it's inconsistent or based on your usage which I don't really think it is..
The new OS 3 on this watch clearly looks like it was designed for a square watch face even down to when you scroll through your notifications you can see that they are rounded Corner boxes that are just Blended in to the black background to blend in with the large bezel these contain.. ( which I still don't understand why any high-end watch company has a thick bezel like that when I tech company like Samsung can make a watch that doesn't have one🤷♂️)
Basically if you didn't take the update yet don't bother.
Man, this Google-Samsung partnership is really starting to look like Google abandoning Wear and handing it to Samsung.
I gotta feel bad for Fossil, they've basically carried Wear on their back for the last 3 years and for their effort they're getting shafted. The Gen4 was my first ever smartwatch and made me fall in love with Google's smartwatch platform. Now, we get unreliable communication from Google, continual delays and questions being raised, and for what? More apps on the Galaxy watches? We still don't have anything resembling a timeframe for WOS3 on Ticwatch, much less Moto or Fossil!
totally agree... however maybe they are waiting to release the pixel watch before turning over wearos 3 to other manufacturers? getting it on the Samsung watches gives app vendors motivation to improve their apps in the meantime. idk... I'm probably wrong
@@wmurch3 I don't know, if that was the case then wouldn't they be motivated to give it to Samsung and Fossil at the same time? Or at least closer? (As in, less than a year apart, as they seem to be doing now?) And even then, why not announce a project? Surely getting the hype started early by announcing a Pixel watch alongside the Samsung partnership would be a good idea? Then they're at least pretending to have faith in the OS...
To me this seems just like Google is announcing they're giving up, but trying to make it look like the exact opposite. "Eat their cake and have it too," if you will...
I think you might be right. It's funny I was just thinking the same thing with the Nexus program and what's happening with the Pixel. I know Samsung was technically the first Nexus manufacturer, but it seemed like Google had LG doing the heavy lifting for years and years and then HTC as well... they ate HTC's guts out and destroyed them, put LG out of the phone business, and then cancelled the best spec for your dollar lineup that was the Nexus for the wannabe iPhone Pixel line. I'm glad we got the camera know how from that, so it's not a total loss. But now it seems like they're basically doing like Wear and just kind of handing the keys to that back to Samsung as well in a way with them making Google's new chip and camera sensor apparently for the new Pixel. Could be a good in the end, Samsung makes some ok stuff but it is pretty shitty how they did these other companies along the way.
@@theColeHardTruth you could be right... I honestly have no idea what Google is thinking half the time (and I don't think they do either). The Samsung partnership is really strange the more I think about it. It doesn't really showcase Wear Os 3 at all and doesn't even have Google Assistant... The bedrock of any Google device. Google must have come to Samsung and met all of their demands to save them from themselves.
@@wmurch3 That's what I'm thinking. And while it would have been a shame to do so, if they had just announced that they're giving the keys to Samsung it would have at least been some sort of self-aware acknowledgement and a lot more respectful to those who they've essentially been ignoring all these years...
My dream would have been for Google to give the keys for Fossil instead; their battery optimizations and under-the-hood improvements to WOS2 have done well to patch the OS to be great IMO. In case you couldn't tell I really don't like the way Samsung operates and much prefer the way Fossil handles their operations, but even I have to admit there's no way that Google would partner with them.
Anyone feel like these watch faces are *still* a bit lacking? Maybe it's just me but it's so hard to find a genuinely aesthetic watch face on a smartwatch these days...
Buying a WearOS watch: an exercise in compromise where the best possible outcome is "meh". Never winning, always stalemate
It's true, but with the "18-hour battery life" it was Apple who set the bar so low. Before Apple Watch, Samsung smartwatches had 3-5 day battery life.
@@cstavaru I guess you mean “before wearOS”, Apple Watch has been around for years and Samsung lowered battery life only recently (especially migrating to wearOS)
@@mastrocla No, I mean Apple Watch. The last 2 or even the last 3 Tizen watches had horrible (read: a bit better than Apple Watch but only just) battery life.
Agree with @cstavaru about Samsung being the gold standard for battery life. What was bizarre was their last Tizen effort. They had been making 3-5 day watches for years and I was ready to buy the Samsung watch 3 (I think it was that) until I found out that the battery took a huge step backward.
And Fossil and everyone else is still/forced to use these garbage snapdragon chips. The 4100+ is built on a 12nm process, whereas the galaxy WearOS watch uses a exynos w920 built on a 5nm process. That's why Samsung is able to build a WearOS watch that's 9.8mm thick and I'll be shocked if the gen 6 is any thinner than 12mm (couldn't find anyone providing that dimension, but the gen 5 was 12mm thick). The "next-gen" snapdragon 5100 is also shaping up to be a dumpster fire. I'm always surprised that Qualcomm's platforms for the one platform that needs better battery life even more than smartphones is relegated to these large die process, battery hog chips. Screw you Qualcomm and the 🐎 you rode in on.
@@BlacklistBill Agreed.
I'm rocking their hybrid watch, it's just a better-looking device and the battery is unbeatable. I'll maybe get a touchscreen watch when they get to Gen 20 or so.
Does the hybrid let you control music, voice reply and see notifications?
And how longs the battery?
@@blaster915 control music - yes. you didn't ask but look for phone - yes. voice reply no :/. You can see notifications and read the first few lines of emails etc but you can't reply to them. There's also a little dot at the bottom of the screen if there are any. Battery at least 10 days. It's also very customizable, you can set your own background or look for backgrounds online, and you can change what 2 of the 3 buttons do.
@@blaster915 also you can pick which apps appear in your notifications, pretty neat. Also you can charge it in only about an hour which is awesome
@@tgwnn thanks for the info. I've been really thinking about a hybrid for a while. Good info for the decision.
I have to be honest, between the WearOS situation, the Apple Watch being pretty much locked down to Apple's ecosystem, and my own watch preferences (at least having analogue hands, without exception), I just can't get excited for smartwatches. They're neat - the reason I keep watching smartwatch reviews is _because_ they're neat, and I think they genuinely benefit people, but for me, they're just not what I want at this point in time. I've spent time using them too, but they're just not for me.
Maybe one day we'll get a proper smartwatch (not those "hybrid" ones that don't do a lot extra) with a screen over top of a genuine clock mechanism, whose features work on whatever phone you want to pair it with instead of some arbitrary limitations Samsung implies aren't there but definitely are, but until then, I'll likely just keep admiring them from afar.
Couldn't agree more. I will always watch videos on these things and begin to get excited before boom, some nonsense that makes it useless. Genuinely, the closest I feel we got to a real smartwatch without dumb compromises was the Pebble line-up, which is why I still carry one to this day. But even then it's far from perfect. At least it can last more than a day on a charge
I have a samsung watch and phone and it works perfectly...as supposed to be. You sound like that person who trys to put a playstation game in an Xbox system and then get mad when it doesn't work.
@Kiel Enrique To be fair, if you were already into watches, and willing to pay the premium for said watches, I can see why smartwatches would be a bit of a no brainer
Basically paying the same ish price for something that does a lot more, so why not at that point
@@lolagepwned Same here. For now I just use cheap fitness band for HR and Sp02 tracking during exercise and sleep, and use my regular citizen watch for other occasions. I might buy the ticwatch pro 3 once it has gotten the update to wearOS 3.
The "Dream Watch" you describe is STILL BASICALLY A HYBRID. The Fossil Hybrid and Garmin range has gone a long way in discreetly making you smarter than your neighbor.. sometimes you need to shift the post in order to be satisfied.
If this was running WearOS 3 I would not hesitate to buy it as I am exactly the kind of person who dreads the, in my opinion, hideous rectangular Apple Watch (and all the wannabes) and super sporty Galaxy and other watches.
Unfortunately I am not willing to buy a watch with a promise of a future update. Hence I will probably wait for Gen 7 (hopefully with standalone internet connectivity too) or some other competing product.
IMO, the Apple Watch makes sense to be a square (every other product except for the HomePod, AirTags, Magic Mouse, and AirPod line up is). What upsets me is Fitbit (a Google company) still using the square when circles are just better looking. Not to mention Fitbits are still on that clunky and ugly excuse of an app.
Same thoughts with Oppo and it's smartwatch offering, which is arguably the most beautiful of the Square Smartwatch Group, taking heavy relation to an Oppo phone with it's curved screen. But it makes sense for Oppo to keep the 4 sided approach (unlike Fitbit), since they use a extremely customized version of Android for their wristphone offerings in China, so instead of suffering to try to make Android work in 360°, they just skin WearOS (if I remember correctly from MrMobile's review of the Oppo watch) to look like that Asia-based variant.
The watch-esque Fruit that goes on your arm (Apple Watch), it's not ugly, but it's not the most beautiful, espeicially in comparision to the Skagen Falster 3 (my personal favorite from Fossil and Friends.). I doubt the iPhone maker will make a circular watch soon since watchOS is too old to completely redesign the entire operating system. *(EDIT: I mean it's too ingrained, so if Apple wanted a round watch, the OS would have to be completely redesigned from the ground up)* Though, if they do take such a challenge, the fruit's smartwatch design would skyrocket.
PS. Finding new ways of saying smartwatch, circle, and square is very hard and I find it annoying when someone uses one singular word 100 times. So enjoy sayings like "wristphones" and "Android in 360°" instead LOL.
I'm left handed, so I wear my watches on my right arm. If the only way to scroll is with the crown (which is on the right of the watch), I will have to use my left hand in an awkward position. I think Samsung's rotating bezel is the best approach.
Samsung left Tizen OS to make google happy because google is buying samsungs display, images sensors, camera modules as well as using Samsung's foundary to build google chip. Tizen was much better and faster
@@TomTomdog Tizen is a horrible OS that is still on the GW3 and prior watches especially coming from WearOS. At least with wear OS3 Samsung has opened the OS thanks to Google.
I’ve had so many wearOS devices hoping it would get better. But it sucks and never gets better. I’m done.
Probably because all the watches you've owned had the same hardware
All I want is a new Pebble watch 😔
The WearOS 3 situation is basically the Osborne effect from the '80s.
So who was NOT fooked when Windows went to a graphical interface?
It is all in the business manual for your life
WORK HARD cause you WILL want a NEW thingamabob as soon as one is available
WOW Google really f'd up the the Wear os update situation. What the hell are they thinking?
Samsung made some demands, I'm guessing.
And samsung moves more units than fossil will ever did.
@@GarryChenYT Sure, but you've got to remember that Fossil Group brands and partners include Skagen, MK, Diesel, Puma, Citizen, Armani ... and that's just off the top of my head. Fossil's not Samsung, but it moves some units.
@@TheMrMobile well Samsung probably pushed for some exclusivity. I'm wondering if there's more to this. There's been one glaring problem with WearOS that no amount of software can fix. Lousy hardware, specifically from QUALCOMM. The 3100 was barely better than what came before and the 4100 while better is still way way behind apple silicon. Sammy for better or worse is making a more compelling watch SoC with a newer process. Now combine this with a supposed pixel watch and you can see why WearOS 3 isn't coming out till next year for a limited amount of current watches. Google I think is ready to give QUALCOMM a giant middle finger to their lackluster lip service to WearOS.
Great video! I love my Gen 5 Julianna! I can always count on you to review interesting tech 🤠
I've been using Fossil Gen 5 for the past 2 years and kind of like it. My next smartwatch, though, should have significantly longer battery life and LTE capabilities. It's far more essential than another software update or any additional application.
As usual, pretty smartwatch from Fossil again. And bogged down by the OS again.
Will be buying one of these and a Pixel 6 as a replacement for my Apple Watch Series 4 & iPhone X, both are a few gens old at this point and the batteries are starting to wear out. as well as I'm moving back to Android as the Apple devices don't fit in with the rest of the tech I use these days, so Android makes more sense for me now. When researching what watch I wanted to replace my Apple Watch, it was a tough decision since the Apple watch is excellent, but this has to be the best Wear OS device on the market. Not interested in the new Samsung watch despite it also now being Wear OS, it's not as nice looking (style is important in a watch) and even though it's running Wear OS 3, I dislike the Samsung UI on top, it's the reason I avoid their phones too. Like the Pixel I'm going to pair it with, I want a pure Android experience and I feel that the Fossil watches offer the best pure Wear OS experience in a very nice looking package. Shame it won't get Wear OS 3.0 until next year.
Perfect timing. I was just debating whether or not to order the Samsung Galaxy Watch4 Classic or wait for this.
I love myself an analog fossil any day, with 11 years repair guarantee... you can't go wrong. For smartwatch Samsung won me over .. its a shame about the battery life, I hope an update would improve it to at least 48 to 72 hours
7:40 So what should I do? I brought Fossil Gen 5 in this year, March. Now I feel like cheated. 😢
I am only buying a smartwatch when it's 100% certified by Michael. 🤞
He gave the ticwatch pro 3 the seal of approval.
Yeah I have been loving my tic watch pro 3
@@Gamer-md1ux how is it? speed and any slow downs
@@notpk6727 it has been running perfectly since day one no slowdowns or Issues at all
I'll wait for the inevitable price drop in a month. I do miss that rotating crown!
Michael, are you planning on reviewing the new Ipad Mini?
Still don't understand why all these watchmakers aren't just using wireless QI charging. It sucks!
These are about the best reviews, nicely done Mr. Fisher
I only wish for next gen Fossil Hybrid smartwatch as the Collider/Charter is getting almost 2 years old now and to me is still unmatched by any other smartwatch
The Fossil Hybrid HR watches are the best little known watches around. Love mine
Getting a new iphone 11 to replace my lost iphone. No iphone 13 for me. New boss same as the old boss! No?
You're the best Smartwatch reviewer....period!
What watchface was on your Galaxy watch4 when you talked about wearos 3?
Man I never thought I'd still be on my Honor Magic Watch 2 but every smart watch's battery life just keeps sucking and sucking and sucking. I mean slight sarcasm aside, I get it, mine is only about 95% of a full smart watch. But seriously it's like 95% of a full smart watch, (maybe more? All I can't do is reply to texts on watch or use voice commands and play any games or Google branded apps) and I can go a full week plus a day or 2 on 1 single charge easy. Why is there still such a massive gap? Is having my fat ass' workout stats delivered to Xi's desk really the only other caveat? :P
This is why i stay away from wear os watch and apple watches coz of the poor batt life, i'd keep my amazfit gtr 2 for a while where i could have more than a week of normal watch usage and 48 hrs when i use it as a music player..
You said it right there. I down graded from an Active 2 to Galaxy Fit 2. And honestly I was surprised by the 10ish days battery of life, so after 6 months it actually feels like a battery upgrade with necessary notifications and affordability.
If any manufacturer can come up with a 2 week-ish battery, round face and wear OS 3... I'm jumping ship 😆 (I guess ultra power save mode with galaxy watch 4)
@@beezrow it's just too much of a hassle to keep charging your watch when you are on the go, manufacturers keeps adding more and more features that you don't really need.
I'm not too picky with smart watches but nothing is perfect but if the game can be upped in a way they pleases more people, that's better for everyone, including myself.
Are the other two buttons functional or just for looks? Great review, as always!
Both pushers are totally functional, as always. You can program each to a custom shortcut (in fact you can see me activate the timer/stopwatch with one of them at some point in the video).
@@TheMrMobile That's awesome! Seems like a very useful feature to me. Making my decision between this and the Watch 4 Classic even more difficult...
Thanks for the reply, and the fantastic reviews as always!
7:47 Z Fold starting its run for the edge of the table
Great review as usual. It sounds like is the Fossil Gen 6 was released with Wear OS 3 it would be a no brainer for those looking to buy a Wear OS watch. This is making me regret not buying the Ticwatch Pro 3 when it was on sale for $197.99 in June.
Both ticwatch and gen 6 have not received os3. And by the way its going it looks like ticwatch wont be getting os3 at all. Fossil is atleast still giving updates about the update and looks like gen5 maybe getting the update too.
Ahhh it's really great to see you back to 60fps... Life's gonna be fun now
I just got my z fold 3 today. I made the decision based on your video. All I can say is thank you for your information. I do not regret getting it.
Michael, is the Garmin marc still your favorite smartwatch? Just for aesthetics? Why is it best?
Fossil didn't fix this issue (charging circles coming loose) the way I wanted. I'll wait to see if people have the same trouble with it. How I wanted them to fix it? put the 4 pins on the watch, and the half circles on the charger. The issue with the earlier gens is water, sweat, and other liquids would slowly cause the circles to separate from the body. I hope they did fix it, but I'm probably done with their watches.
Love the design and faces. If only they can run watchos on apple……
Lol at soft wear
the funny part is that now that samsung isn't using tizen any more it becomes a question of brand against brand, tizen was morew stable and battery effecient than wear now they both use it so it's harder to distinguish them now, samsung has awful battery life now because of wear, suddenly fossil is looking interesting
that ofcourse meaning if they release a design like the gen 5 as this particular gen 6 is just well i wouldn't say ugly but not for me compared to that pretty silver one next too it that plastic back is also not looking very attractive, so design wise samsung is better compared to that one
True but Samsung wants a chunk of non Samsung users getting a hold of Samsung gen4. They are happy to let go of their tizen format for more $ and less of L.
It's May 2022 has Fossil Gen 6 got Wear OS 3 ?
I'm actually not a watch guy, I just enjoy watching your videos Michael.
I'll wait for your review on the smartwatch after wear os 3 finally comes
Am I the only one who immediately recognised travellers inspired watch face?
Great preview video! I'm really looking forward to this watch. I've been on the fence about the GW4 and haven't been able to pull the trigger. It's the same with the Ticwatch Pro 3 GPS. Neither one has anything screams, "I've got to have that watch", for me.
My first and only smartwatch that I use to this day is a trusty Fossil Gen 3 venture. I'm really a sucker for the more sleek and elegant designs by Fossil. But as much as I like the Gen 6 my Gen 3 still holds up for the simple stuff as showing notifications and being a remote for spotify. Do the newer gens offer something vastly superior or are they more of convenience upgrade?
As someone that primarily uses my 2018 Galaxy Watch for fitness tracking, the insane battery life of the TicWatch 3 Pro is a huge plus. Such a shame all these new watches don't get a similar layered lcd display and a "basic" power mode..
Keep an eye on the hybrid e-ink models. They're not quite the same but 10-12 days of battery life and some fitness stuff, that's awesome. Maybe they'll have NFC in 1-2 generations
@@tgwnn That's pretty cool!
@@tgwnn Agree the Fossil Hybrid HR watches could easily replace my Wear, Galaxy and Pebble watches. The fitness walking/running results are on par with the Galaxy watches.
@@randyb3576 plus I can easily track my sleep schedule with it even if it's not 100% accurate. If I have to charge it every day or every 2 days, it's a nuisance to make sure it's loaded by bedtime. It is a little buggy but overall I love the experience.
@@tgwnn Good to hear! Enjoy!
I might say i am kind of happy with the TicWatch E3, but i can feel the bugs and problems, also I'm not using as much as a regular person might, one of the reasons is because I can't carry a charger to the place where unlike to take the watch, full weekends outdoors and hard conditions makes me think a lot about using the pins of the strap as a charger (that's why I asked) because it's already there, you can charge while in a bike ride knowing it won't disconnect, also you might be able to have an strap with extra juice to run the watch with battery for longer periods of time.
Silly idea?
Anyone know where to get the watchface on the right at 2:34 ?
I have Gen 5 Fossil and right now I can't see any reasons to upgrade to Gen 6. Probably it will not change until the end of 2022. If the new Wear OS will be better then I will consider an upgrade.
It's like someone told Fossil they had to choose between good battery life and an edge-to-edge screen and Fossil said "no thanks". How is that massive bezel acceptable when Samsung and Mobvoi have zero gap between the screen and watch frame? I guess we're supposed to be thankful they didn't bring back the flat tire.
I've been an Android Wear user since the LG G Watch R and I love my smart watches. My current Fossil Gen 5 has been my "checks all the boxes" watch for a while now. My one gripe with it is the rotating crown gets very gummed up over time with no feasible way to fix that other than contacting Fossil and sending my unit in for repair (usually takes a month or so). On the other side of things, I've always loved the fluidity of the Samsung watches and especially the rotating bezel but could not stand to part with Google Assistant. I was hoping Fossil would adopt the rotating bezel and bring Wear OS 3 to the Gen 6 at launch. I think the new Samsung watch needs a fair bit of software love to get things to where I want but would be my choice over the Fossil. Gen 6 seems to be my Gen 5 with bumped specs and different shell.
I just ordered this watch. I pretty stoked. My first smartwatch. I used to wear watches when i was younger and finally decided it was the right time since smartwatches have improved.
Really torn between the Galaxy Watch 4, Tic Watch Pro 3 and now the new Fossil. I have an LG V35 so I wouldn't get all the health benefits from the Galaxy Watch so I feel like I'd be paying a premium I won't be able to use. The TWP3 battery and second display look really appealing, but not sure how reliable and buggy the watch will get overtime. I've been using the TW E for the last few years and need a serious upgrade. Anyone know exactly what can't be used on the Galaxy Watch if you're a non Samsung user and anyone who doesn't use a Samsung have the new Galaxy Watch 4? What's your thoughts? Hearing you have to sign up and download multiple apps which sounds annoying... Side note, I use Google Pay and Google Fit so not sure how that's implemented into the Galaxy Watch 4. Cheers!
Is Wear OS 3 such a big deal over 2.3 when the SD 4100+ can run it well? I mean Mr Mobile said it himself that it dose run well beside tiny bugs and battery life is on pair with competition. With the Samsung watch the big deal was that it offered better Google integration and again paired with a better SOC it run well. Is it the SOC the software that needs real improvment?
I think the problem is third party support is drying up, so some apps might just be broken/unusable even if the base OS might work fine
@@niu-3- That is ture but this watch will eventually getting 3.0 so this should not affect it.
I love my gen 5 Carlyle and it's round screen but the Apple watch has it beat for iOS Integration.
You have used the gen 6, ticwatch 3 pro and the galaxy watch 4. which one would you recommend? Is there a huge difference between the wear os 2.3 and wear os 3? Which one should i buy?
I wish Samsung didn't patent the rotating bezel, it's harmed the market.
Will you do a Wear OS 3 updated review?
Wouldn't recommend buying fossil from personal experience, bought a Gen 4, it was fine for the first month or so but then became incredibly slow and almost unusable. I sent it back to them for repairs, when it came back it was still just as unusable. I sent it back again and got a replacement, this again worked for about a month before it stopped charging and the back fell off. However, this time it was out of warranty, so they couldn't repair it, and I couldn't justify paying to repair it given that I knew it would just send up slow and unusable again.
Maybe they've changed, but I certainly won't be buying a fossil smart watch again. I own an analogue fossil watch which works perfectly and I use daily. And a hybrid which is again perfect but just needs a new battery at the moment.
Your reviews are spot on as always! Always look forward to seeing your thoughts on wearables
I bought a Michael Kors Access Grayson back in the day. While the watch looks really good considering its a Smartwatch, The Processor and Wear OS itself was so buggy that time that the watch is almost unusable right now. I think buying that watch was my biggest tech mistake.
Gen 6 may be improved, but they have a lot to answer for with Gen 5's abject failure.
They should definitely offer a trade-in program for the gen6. Seems like a no-brainer to me
Being a pixel 4a owner I waited to try wear os and opted for with a Garmin Vivoactive. It does what i need and the one thing I'm spoiled with is battery life. Guess I'll keep waiting right now.
Made an review about nokia 800 tough
iwatch: "Hey, we got 15 hours battery life!"
You lost me at full day smart watch. I need something that lasts a whole week.
it's embarassing how told old galaxy watch 46 mm can do over 3 days of battery with aod on and not a single other smartwatch can not even the galaxy watch 4 classic
Galaxy =Tyzen
Others=wear os
Simple it's a really different system
it's main reason because wear os is power hungry...
while tizen isn't..
Contrary to those earlier replies, this isn't a Tizen-vs-Wear OS thing (as I said in the video, the Wear OS-powered TicWatch Pro 3 can last 3 days on a charge). The Galaxy Watch 3 was the first to really take a dive on battery life, and it still ran Tizen. Reason for the reduction in endurance is because Samsung wanted to make it smaller, so it included a much smaller battery starting with GW3.
@@TheMrMobile yes,.. that one too....
if we compared gw3 (340mah with tizen) rated for 2 days..
and gw4 classic (361mah) with wear os rated for 40h... *of course the reality always lower that that rating....
i could say tizen little bit efficient, but higher ppi display maybe could be other reason..
and also og galaxy watch only has 472 mah, while pro 3 is 577...
and both rated almost same battery life.. but it could be other reasons too... like 0.1 inch screen, different time released, and screen resolution..
so i still think tizen is more efficient, but not a lot..
that's why google and samsung team up together to make the best from both world... but now it's still not there yet...
I've been out of the Smartwatch game since the Fossil Gen 3, even though I was a WearOS early adopter. This is looking like a decent option for me once 3.0 is out. (Still nothing matches the design of the original Moto 360, also loved the og Huawei watch...)
Had a fossil q gen 1 looks wise one of my favorite smart watches wear os has been meh for years it wasnt awful but yea sometimes glitchy and almost no support, google and samsung will continue to lose market share and relevancy to apple until they both somehow create an ecosystem to rival apples its no longer a one device sale, its a lifestyle choice
Love it 💯
This video needs more reach. Great reviews..... Unbiased and unparalleled.....
Well done bro... Great video, solid and direct review! Got a new subscriber. 👏🏻
@Michael Gen 6 vs Watch 4 vs Fitbit Sense, which one do you recommend?
The wearOS 3 is a deal breaker but only if the pixel watch is released before March, otherwise it's just the overskinned galaxy watch 4 so then this could be a choice for many?
7:55 Hmm, where's the classic "they're seeing it at the same time as you"?
"No preview" means the same thing as that, so I don't use the same phrasing every time. My policy on all of that has remained unchanged since 2016. If it changes, I'll make it clear.
@@TheMrMobile I think he was joking, but c'mon, it's your brand at this point! :P
How is this still the only review out lol
👍👍👍😘
Great review...very indepth! This was like reading the manual but more fun :) Do people even read manuals anymore though...lol. Great job on your video :)
Michael, While explaining the authentication problem with your Google account. The email address is visible..
Me being a Fossil Employee didn't have any idea about the new launch until they revealed it 👍
Every single time I get a notification on this watch pulling up my sleeve swipes away the notification on both the watch and my phone so I never get to see it. This happens at least 10 times A-day.
Really unfortunate..I was ready to pull trigger on gen 6 soon as it was announced till I found out it's not running the new wear Os and won't till next year.🤷🏾♂️ Oh well, I'll wait till then or for something better.. hopefully google will give us a pixel watch
Gen 5 will get wearos 3?
I had the fossil gen 5, it was my first Smartwatch. I really liked it, but had to sell it after I bought an iPhone and it didn’t work with it.
His reviews are like pixel phone experience, vs other android phones sooo good so addictive
Did the prices change on the TicWatch Pro 3 in the last couple of hours, because as of now, it's back to $300.
4:27 Michael Fisher, still the greatest voice in the business.
I dont know if it's willfully for sales purposes..Hence launching half baked products.
Manufacturers are just not making them upto the mark. 1-2 day battery life is a joke.
LTE should be a mandatory. Bluetooth based watches are mere toys.
Plus it's been almost a decade now brands are trying to figure what to do.... 😂😂😂😂
I have been using a Fitbit Versa 2 for a few years now. But I an looking for an Android counterpart to the Apple Watch. I like everythjng about the Fossil, Google, and Garmin watches, but the one feature I cannot find anywhere is if pictures sent through text or FB messanger can be seen on the screen like an Apple Watch.
Same old story with Fossil and WearOS... good/nice hardware questionable software. no thanks. So basically nothing good materialized from googles Fossil IP buy out from a couple years ago...??? I was hoping for better OS stability. It seems like Ticwatch and now Samsung are ahead of the game and Fossil is really playing catch up.
Yeah, I've got a $400 gen5 paperweight because fossil is abandonware. Legit Google integration has been broken since six months after release on the Gen5, Google has decided to abandon wear, and fossil refuses to update the watch.
This is a hard pass. Good tech. Absolutely SHIT company.
Wait!!! HMR 3 Update ?? The system update is just HMR 2 Right , I think you got spelling mistake in the description please check
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