How to Play Different Volumes in Each Hand | Piano Lesson

Поділитися
Вставка
  • Опубліковано 22 гру 2024

КОМЕНТАРІ • 616

  • @jazerleepiano
    @jazerleepiano  3 роки тому +235

    How did you go with the volume exercises? Comment below!

    • @andrewbuffe5605
      @andrewbuffe5605 3 роки тому +15

      Hi Jazer very helpful video indeed! Can you do a tutorial on the proper use of pedals next?

    • @jennyhope-faith9328
      @jennyhope-faith9328 3 роки тому +8

      Oh Jazer, I need exactly this video!!!!
      I'm learning the Piano since 10 weeks and my biggest problem is exactly the different volumes from both hands. Actually, my project is Nuvole bianche from Einaudi. I love it really much. Now I can play nearly the whole piece, but I realized the problem about the different volumes, I still couldn't play. Last days I tried so much to do this different, but without success. And now, your video is my answer. It's hard to learn, but your tips are as gold! Now I know, how to practice the different volume for both hands! Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!
      The tips are very very helpful. I think I need lots of days to learn it well, but then it's easier to play the different volumes in the piano pieces. I love the secret exercise. really cool!!!
      I love you and your channel, help me a lot to learn in the last weeks.
      (My favorite tip from you: play more often right than false for playing right and good, I think about it every day.)

    • @nat91307
      @nat91307 3 роки тому

      hi

    • @serenascigliano5022
      @serenascigliano5022 3 роки тому +3

      Thank you so much. This is really challenging, but it will help a lot for sure 😘

    • @butnoemi
      @butnoemi 3 роки тому

      went well, what piano do you have ?

  • @Soarvivor
    @Soarvivor 3 роки тому +1082

    dude what? I was just thinking about how I couldn't play both hands with different volumes, and then I saw this video in my feed! that's actually crazy

  • @vspatmx7458
    @vspatmx7458 3 роки тому +480

    What does it take to be a great teacher ?
    * knowledge technique experience
    * energy
    * interesting communication skill
    * patience
    * the unknown factors and secret sauce yet to be decoded by me
    And buddy.. U have it all
    Ur spot on.
    Also ur probably half my age.
    Love ur work
    Many thanks
    And # respect.

    • @anuar1978
      @anuar1978 3 роки тому +1

      Half your age? So what. Mark zuckerberg is half my age too and hes a billionaire, me not.

    • @vspatmx7458
      @vspatmx7458 3 роки тому +2

      @@anuar1978
      Ppl ultimately get what they focus on.
      I wish u well
      And pray that u heal.

    • @hako_on136
      @hako_on136 3 роки тому

      Nah, he talks to slow and takes to long

    • @vspatmx7458
      @vspatmx7458 3 роки тому +4

      @@hako_on136
      Perhaps it's because he has to focus on ppl who are not as accomplished as you and need Jazer more, rather than focusing on astonishingly accomplished ppl like you who rival Mozart Beethoven bach Chopin and the gang and don't need Jazer nor this humble channel

    • @average_duckling1345
      @average_duckling1345 3 роки тому +1

      All your hero’s now are half your age

  • @andrewbuffe5605
    @andrewbuffe5605 3 роки тому +225

    Best trumpet imitation ever!

    • @jowadsley503
      @jowadsley503 3 роки тому +2

      Absolutely love your lessons, they help so much, they make sense and applied they work really really well.
      Cant wait to have a go at this one !!

  • @yeungchun121
    @yeungchun121 8 місяців тому +5

    This helps me a lot with my teaching, thank you!

  • @ladys8615
    @ladys8615 3 роки тому +447

    Piano volume has been one of my struggles. Thank you for this, Jazer

    • @jazerleepiano
      @jazerleepiano  3 роки тому +22

      Hope it helps!

    • @ladys8615
      @ladys8615 3 роки тому +4

      @@jazerleepiano Exercise 2 is somewhat of a syncopation, which I find a bit of a challenge. But hey, practice makes perfect, right? In time, I'll be better at it (fingers crossed).

    • @johnnyackermann3503
      @johnnyackermann3503 3 роки тому +4

      @@ladys8615 You will! Just keep practicing and don’t give up :)

    • @bobermoment
      @bobermoment 3 роки тому

      @@ladys8615 are you better at it yet

    • @danielmeb84
      @danielmeb84 Рік тому

      @@ladys8615any progress?

  • @AvyannaFathom
    @AvyannaFathom 7 місяців тому +5

    Bro made me a better pianist in just 11 min. At first, having diff volumes was really difficult and nearly impossible. When I tried your bonus trick, I INSTANTLY played my song better. THANK YOU! UR A LIFESAVER.

  • @michelprimeau4531
    @michelprimeau4531 3 роки тому +122

    I was just happy hitting the right note. I'll have to pay attention to that. Thanks for the heads up.

  • @Thuan-bq5hr
    @Thuan-bq5hr 3 роки тому +26

    My 20$ keyboard: we don’t do that here

  • @cjnadance7773
    @cjnadance7773 3 роки тому +49

    This is also known as voicing, where you make the melody stand out from the accompaniment.

  • @yajjyutuladhar5740
    @yajjyutuladhar5740 3 роки тому +97

    Just when I was also practicing Nocturne Op.9 No.2, I got this video recommended, and I loved it. Thanks for sharing such wonderful videos.

  • @shirinchocolate
    @shirinchocolate 3 роки тому +39

    Thank you for this video! My teacher always tells me to play the left hand softly but I didn’t know how to practice for it. Now I will do your practices…

  • @tonmandude
    @tonmandude 3 роки тому +112

    I'm currently working on this! I thought that playing with both hands was a hard hurdle, but getting my left hand to not sound like a giant is playing, is much much harder. Lol

    • @ENikolaev
      @ENikolaev 3 роки тому +4

      Just wait till you have soft/fast arpeggios in the left down low lol

  • @juliokazuki5185
    @juliokazuki5185 3 роки тому +21

    This topic is surprisingly very hard to find info about it. Thanks for sharing!

  • @kylasanders1836
    @kylasanders1836 2 роки тому +1

    I am just a beginner so not a real pianist yet but I had a really tough time at practice last week on top of an already hard work week. I was near tears I was so frustrated with myself because I couldn’t do this. My piano instructor told me I have performance anxiety.
    I want to say thank you because I practiced along to this video and I can already feel myself grasping the concept much better and becoming much more in control. Thanks so much.

  • @cheekybeatle
    @cheekybeatle 3 роки тому +24

    This is perfect! The fact that I am having this problem and I am learning the exact piece being played is so helpful! Thank you Jazer and I absolutely love your videos!

  • @sheriweathers7205
    @sheriweathers7205 3 роки тому +126

    Being a lefty, I have a hard time with this. Never mind the fact that the lower notes seem to be naturally louder due to the thicker strings.

  • @MisterB7917
    @MisterB7917 3 роки тому +3

    I've had a piano teacher for a year before and never learned this. you're pretty amazing as a teacher. thank you.

  • @omercamcioglu5416
    @omercamcioglu5416 Рік тому

    Teşekkürler.

  • @TheRickuren
    @TheRickuren 3 роки тому +9

    Excellent tutorial! The next step (for more advanced pianists) is to learn to play multiple simultaneous notes, all at different volume levels (from a three-note chord to potentially 10 - one volume level for each finger.)
    Listen to the great pianists. This is what they’re doing.
    All the time.

  • @dennisk.7149
    @dennisk.7149 3 роки тому

    Finally! This is a topic thats very important to know and to learn but way too little discussed on UA-cam. I was trying to teach myself playing the piano with the help of the internet for about 4 years and learned a lot about fingering, sightreading and other important stuff but nothing about the importance of playing the melody louder than the accompaning notes. I actually learned it from my piano teacher who has been playing classical music for about 50 years and who i have been working together with now for 4 months. The first thing he taught me, which, in his words, separates playing some random notes from creating real music, was to give every single note the meaning it is trying to represent!

  • @johncedrickengeres9601
    @johncedrickengeres9601 3 роки тому +6

    This type of exercise is just perfect for my practice because for me it's hard to cooperate with volume and the more interesting, it has exercise for coordinations on every notes, thanks a lot.

  • @M0nd-S0nne
    @M0nd-S0nne 3 роки тому

    hello Jazer, for 18 months I (65 years old) attend a piano course for adults. Your interesting and very good tips and teaching methods complement many things that are not mentioned in the teaching course. I am very grateful to have found your channel. Many greetings from Switzerland. ci

  • @BLITZ-cs8nq
    @BLITZ-cs8nq 3 роки тому +11

    Man, this really helped me improve my piano skills and makes the songs I play sound much more dynamic!! Thank you so much for the amazing tutorial :DD

  • @crystalmontalbano9798
    @crystalmontalbano9798 2 роки тому +1

    This is the most useful video of all. I have been struggling with volume control for a long time. Thank you.

  • @lizst_3539
    @lizst_3539 3 роки тому +2

    I did self taught for about 3 years up until now and didn't have any formal piano lessons. Little did I know that I am actually doing this exercises on my own, especially when I can't clearly 'hear' the piece. Quite surprised!

  • @patriciaguillaume7353
    @patriciaguillaume7353 3 роки тому

    The melody singing out particularly in the nocturnes is lovely and it adds a nice dimension to the tuneful pieces.

    • @patriciaguillaume7353
      @patriciaguillaume7353 3 роки тому

      As u say the melody needs to come out and if its in the right hand it should be more pronounced. I like that nocturne in the video. I love Chopin

  • @BlendyCat
    @BlendyCat 3 роки тому +1

    Your channel is an absolute goldmine. A lot of these things I've heard before, but you have a way of saying in a way that just clicks for me.

  • @eleangthang8555
    @eleangthang8555 Рік тому

    Thanks

  • @JWBaSiTo
    @JWBaSiTo 3 роки тому +2

    Not only was I looking for a tutorial on how to play at different volumes for each hand, you are also playing the exact piece I’m trying to learn!

    • @JakeOost
      @JakeOost 11 місяців тому

      Whats it called? I have been looking for the name but i cant find it

  • @yapian2xiao888
    @yapian2xiao888 3 роки тому

    I like your voice and smile. Will keep watching ur videos. Not only will it improve my piano skill, but also my English listening.
    Love it.

  • @zweiwelten3384
    @zweiwelten3384 3 роки тому +2

    As always: Jazer has it all! Best quality tutorials, cut into bite-sized pieces that are fun! And -hard to believe - it‘s free!
    Thank you so much!

  • @berryberry8590
    @berryberry8590 3 роки тому +5

    Would you please make a video on how to play with the correct rhythm. My daughter is struggling to count the beats evenly and at a steady pace. Her teacher says she just has to keep practicing on her own until she gets. The only advice she gave was to count 1and 2and 3and. I feel like there should be more guidance than that. Thanks Jazer!! I’m learning so much from your videos 👍👍

    • @dees3179
      @dees3179 3 роки тому

      Has she been taught how to use a metronome? You can put one on your phone for free. Really helpful for me.

    • @sketchbook_worm
      @sketchbook_worm 3 роки тому

      tempo thingy

  • @ivansobota4325
    @ivansobota4325 3 роки тому +1

    I found your channel a few months ago and you motivated me to learn more piano tehniques and practice more. Keep up what you're doing.

  • @wilmakuukaja6296
    @wilmakuukaja6296 3 роки тому +6

    I love the sound effects 😂 thank you for an insightful video 😊

  • @tatiananass9872
    @tatiananass9872 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you soooo much!!! I struggle a lot with differences in volume!!! Thank you again!! I watch all of your videos and they are always amazing!!!

  • @mafyumtz
    @mafyumtz 3 роки тому

    How is it possible that my teacher today told me about it and now you're here telling me how to do it? Amazing. Thanks!

  • @liliaoulebsirlounis9030
    @liliaoulebsirlounis9030 3 роки тому +1

    Merci Jazer pour tes vidéos et ta pédagogie. Je me creuse la tête depuis un bon moment pour trouver des exercices pour que la main gauche sonne moins fort que la droite mais je n'en trouve pas beaucoup. J'applique tes conseils et astuces dans mes exercices tous les jours et je vois de très bons résultats 🥰.

  • @resilient5672
    @resilient5672 3 роки тому +1

    Stumbled onto this, not knowing that this was what I need to work on for my next step forward. Crazy how the universe works. Thank you for this!

  • @caesargreco8416
    @caesargreco8416 3 роки тому +10

    Hey Jazer, I was wondering if you could do a video about releasing tension in the hand. I’ve heard that it’s the secret to playing fast passages 0-0. Loved the video btw :)

  • @rosebrunais1314
    @rosebrunais1314 Рік тому

    Thanks so much for this! Being left-handed, your secret trick is just what I needed to help me to lower the volume on my left hand while playing.

  • @jorgerivas1424
    @jorgerivas1424 3 роки тому

    I'm practicing a piece that I'll be playing in church today, Schubert's "Ave Maria." This skill & exercise will come in very handy, having to play the single-note voice melody with my right hand against a very strong, percussive, bassy left hand accompaniment. Thanks, Jazer!

  • @sdbmodgamer7738
    @sdbmodgamer7738 3 роки тому

    Alright, that's it I'm gonna subscribe!
    I'm playing piano for 1 year and I always watching your videos❤️ super help full thanks
    I'm just getting better and noticed my right hand is louder than my left

  • @velcroman11
    @velcroman11 3 роки тому

    Jazer, mate, it is not a trick, it is a valuable and necessary technique that we all must learn. A “trick” is was one does to get away (cheat) with learning a think properly. Like, really necessary in Chopin’s Prelude in E Minor.

  • @yoganshkhandelwal8718
    @yoganshkhandelwal8718 9 місяців тому

    Thanks I just started playing golden hour and this came in recommendation and I love it. Thanks for sharing all your videos

  • @Actraiser1
    @Actraiser1 2 роки тому

    Oh my god! This was so helpful, especially the last tip where you aren’t making sound with your left hand. Thank you!

  • @peterpan7919
    @peterpan7919 2 роки тому

    Never thought I need to realy learn this, sometimes I tried, but now I will practice it! Thanksss!

  • @bhaggoporiksha2940
    @bhaggoporiksha2940 2 роки тому +1

    Love the way you teach. You touch the G spot and learning becomes very interesting.

  • @mariom6884
    @mariom6884 3 роки тому +1

    Great tips and exercices too,Jazer.Thank you.Love from Brazil.

  • @rimaobeid.d7982
    @rimaobeid.d7982 3 роки тому +4

    So interresting tutorial !!!
    i always felt i should play the melody lowder, but i lacked for techniques!
    Your exercices sound great! i can not wait trying them out😊
    thank you for sharing
    Rima

  • @anastasialevandovskaia2812
    @anastasialevandovskaia2812 Рік тому

    Hello Jazer! This is a very important topic! Thank You for shareing your experience with us!

  • @roseannfrielink8977
    @roseannfrielink8977 3 роки тому

    Thank you for the ideas on balancing volume between the two hands. This can help me teach my students!

  • @e.castlerock8454
    @e.castlerock8454 3 роки тому

    I am struggling with this problem as I learn to play "The Sound of Silence." And I only noticed my left-hand broken chords were overpowering my right-hand melody when I recorded myself playing the song (very helpful to record yourself playing to hear how you really sound and to determine what needs to be improved). I will do your exercises, and hopefully, it will help. Thanks so much for this video.

  • @kingmalik09
    @kingmalik09 3 роки тому +1

    Man, you are amazing. Your videos are just perfect for improving any skill. You get right to the point while making everything easy to understand with excellent demonstrations.

  • @Ray-ks8vf
    @Ray-ks8vf 3 роки тому +66

    the first exercise is a really good exercise. but i had a really awkward conversation with my mom when she walked in on me slapping my thighs

    • @jazerleepiano
      @jazerleepiano  3 роки тому +12

      😂😂

    • @imsk6729
      @imsk6729 3 роки тому +8

      Funny... i was doing the exercise in the garden...sitting in the deck chair... maybe my neighbour thinks I am odd!!!

  • @twopoles11
    @twopoles11 3 роки тому

    I'm currently working on Chopin's Nocturne No. 9 Op. 2, and my teacher recommended that I work on making the melody louder. This is perfect, thank you!

  • @naravishthongnok5899
    @naravishthongnok5899 Рік тому

    I have been watching you since before I got a piano.
    I had always thought that no way these kinda simple tricks could actually work. (But I still watched for some reason)
    Now that I got a piano but struggle to play Jingle Bells (from Alfred's book) without having my LH overpowering my RH so I come here.
    And Holy Cow! Your "secret" trick does work wonder. My Jingle Bells is still not that great but it's much better than before.

  • @MaryAnnWade
    @MaryAnnWade 11 місяців тому

    Jazer, you're the best! Thanks for this awesome video. I'm implementing these practice techniques immediately!

  • @alech9418
    @alech9418 3 роки тому +2

    This is a technique I spent a lot of time developing early on. After a while it became subconsious. Now I am trying to learn a series of pieces with 3 hand technique, and it is interesting how difficult something which seemed so simple before has become. If you don't already have one, could you do a video on 3 hand technique?

  • @A-major_7th
    @A-major_7th 3 роки тому

    Wow, got this video right when i needed it. Learning nuvole bianche for an exam but struggling to keep left hand volume low...I hope your trick helps, I'll give it a try.

  • @valentinacovarrubias6224
    @valentinacovarrubias6224 3 роки тому

    Your videos appeared just in time before I start music class in my new semester, a literal life saver

  • @shripom
    @shripom 3 роки тому

    I like the bonus trick because you automatically put more attention in the right hand. And this helps a lot.

  • @ginaschrader
    @ginaschrader 4 місяці тому

    I appreciate this tutorial. Such a difficult concept made easier to understand. I'm from Texas and currently visiting in the Victoria (Melbourne) area. It sounds like your in Australia too? I could have sworn I heard a magpie chirping in the background in one of your other tutorials. :) Anyway I practice piano at my son's home and your tutorials help tremendously. I expect my piano teacher in Texas will appreciate these little improvements especially. Thanks Jazer!

  • @lawrencetaylor4101
    @lawrencetaylor4101 2 роки тому

    Great exercise, merci beaucoup. Can't wait to get to the piano and try this.

  • @bsinger3189
    @bsinger3189 3 роки тому

    I'm a natural lefty. You're the first teacher who answered my question HOW can I soften lefty? Thanks.

  • @renaes5262
    @renaes5262 2 роки тому

    Sir. You are my piano hero. I have looked for exercises to improve my turns and trills. Have you included these skills in video? Thank you so much for your generous work. Hope you are feeling better

  • @PianoMelodious-phh
    @PianoMelodious-phh 2 місяці тому

    Thank you music for bringing an incomparable feeling of joy and happiness

  • @MarcDufresneosorusrex
    @MarcDufresneosorusrex Рік тому

    I just .. the first two notes of this song is the first two notes of "Ginette Reno - "Ma mère chantait toujours" .. ; growing up in Quebec in the 80's, they played this song on radio, cheers

  • @YYchen713
    @YYchen713 2 роки тому

    Wooow! Your volume percussion exercise is so brilliant

  • @victordsouza9909
    @victordsouza9909 3 роки тому

    THE SESSION WENT ON WELL WITH MUCH LEARNING AND ENTHUSIASM.....

  • @DrZCafe
    @DrZCafe 3 роки тому

    I find it's more difficult to play left hand hard than the right hand when it is needed sometimes. Thank you Jazer for such a helpful video!

  • @mariecloutier3548
    @mariecloutier3548 Рік тому

    thanks Jazer- this was really helpful and while I am a long way from mastery it helped me get my head around it on day one!

  • @elizabethbaldeolivar9737
    @elizabethbaldeolivar9737 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you Jazer, watching your videos really helps 👍🏻👍🏻

  • @minnauyeda8002
    @minnauyeda8002 3 роки тому +1

    My favorite nocturne ever! Wonderful.

  • @blueslane1570
    @blueslane1570 3 роки тому +2

    This was really useful Jazer - especially the secret bonus trick!! Thank you very much. Coralie

  • @kevinharland5029
    @kevinharland5029 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks dude, your videos really helped me develop my piano skills !
    Great tutorial as always !

  • @davoudghaleghovand2300
    @davoudghaleghovand2300 3 роки тому +1

    Dear Mr, Jazer, Thank you for Kind Explanations. Davoud from Belgium

  • @ignatiusprasetyo4984
    @ignatiusprasetyo4984 2 роки тому

    It's more like reshaping the roots... to strengthen the tree. big thanks Jazer...👍

  • @wendylynas3884
    @wendylynas3884 Рік тому

    Please Jazer: could you address different articulation with each hand - legato in the left , staccato in the right, for example

  • @krisveenstra9286
    @krisveenstra9286 10 днів тому

    Great exercises - thank you!

  • @c.a.7522
    @c.a.7522 2 роки тому

    Wonderfull,thank you! I like very,very much your videos! Each one brings me a little bit further! Kind regards from Germany!

  • @k009ism
    @k009ism 3 роки тому +2

    You are really inspiring, Lee!

  • @YvonSaraniavon1976-qh9dj
    @YvonSaraniavon1976-qh9dj Рік тому

    A great thanks to you young teacher!
    Bravo Bravo!!

  • @AB-ny7zm
    @AB-ny7zm 3 роки тому

    Now I see the problem is not a matter of balance of my keyboard or the volume of its high keys! I might be playing too intensively with my left hand. Thank you Jazer!!

  • @elenemosiashvili7698
    @elenemosiashvili7698 3 роки тому

    I'm glad I found your channel. it's so helpful

  • @MyHonest123
    @MyHonest123 3 роки тому

    This video is JUST what I needed

  • @mafruzaalam6101
    @mafruzaalam6101 3 роки тому

    I was in need of a video about this topic.Unfortunately, no one talked about it and finally you got me.(But, I still can't coordinate playing Mozart k.545 Sonata)

  • @vananh3200
    @vananh3200 3 роки тому +1

    thank you, it's a great Piano Lesson for me!

  • @baltazarlukaschewsky8466
    @baltazarlukaschewsky8466 3 роки тому

    This is great , I’m studying Nocturne op9 no2 and you use it as example , I needed this video, I was doing so loud the left hand , thank you !

  • @khantzwae4368
    @khantzwae4368 3 роки тому

    plz add exercises on how to play odd sharps or flats note appregio like bb appregio or F#m appregio ...thz you for your great contents and i really enjoyed learning from your videos...

  • @Velnox
    @Velnox 3 роки тому

    Wow your secret trick is amazing! It's been hard for me to play at different volumes, but I see improvement in my pieces because of it, so thanks to you!

  • @santamariajorge
    @santamariajorge 3 роки тому

    Thank you Jazer. Excellent tips not frecuently addressed

  • @paphinvithartono2637
    @paphinvithartono2637 3 роки тому

    The last exercise is very helpful!

  • @mrdogrequiem
    @mrdogrequiem 3 роки тому +1

    I was actually searching for something similar in your videos, so thanks! this was very helpful

  • @diegoink156
    @diegoink156 3 роки тому +4

    Next level : How to play different volumes of each finger :')
    i really need it 😭

  • @user-vz7ro5bo2n
    @user-vz7ro5bo2n 3 роки тому

    The perfect video I was looking for!

  • @feelalivepiano
    @feelalivepiano 3 роки тому +27

    I was waiting for this, Ive already made mistakes with a piece of Yann tiersen. However I'm learning the game of thrones theme and will apply these methods into it. Thank you very much

    • @Arthur-.
      @Arthur-. 3 роки тому

      What piece of Yann Tiersen?

    • @feelalivepiano
      @feelalivepiano 3 роки тому +1

      @@Arthur-. comptine dun autre ete

    • @Arthur-.
      @Arthur-. 3 роки тому

      @@feelalivepiano I'm learning this piece rn, any tips?

    • @feelalivepiano
      @feelalivepiano 3 роки тому +2

      @@Arthur-. well I've posted it on my channel and the mistakes I've made is regarding the softness and at times in swiftness too. But I loved the way I played and thought of posting it anyway. In the description of the video I've mentioned a very important part giving credit to Jazer is that practicing the wrong way and compromising and doing it again and again (for example the thought process of "I'll get this note right next time never mind, this is still a good way I played) wrongly will only result in you playing it wrongly by the cause of probability. However if you can master playing wrongly 50 times in an hour you rather master playing it slowly and rightly for 30 times and then you see the difference when you actually want to perform.

    • @Arthur-.
      @Arthur-. 3 роки тому

      @@feelalivepiano Thank you so much!

  • @michaelfidalgo5797
    @michaelfidalgo5797 Рік тому

    I’ve always had this issue, and I started working on this song about a month ago and I laughed out loud when you started playing it.

  • @pieterbender585
    @pieterbender585 3 роки тому +1

    Going to try it out...
    Thanks bro!

  • @larrygraham3377
    @larrygraham3377 3 роки тому

    Thanks Jesa for this wonderful practice tip. You're the greatest ...!!!