How Good Was Pistol Pete Maravich Actually? (REACTION)
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How Good Was Pistol Pete Maravich Actually? (REACTION)
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So nobody was gonna tell me Pistol Pete averaged 44.5 points a game in college?! Lol
Before the 3 point line!
Telling you that ahead of time really takes away from the magic of the video
i was just gonna tell you he holds the record for scoring in NCAA..that record was in 3 years..not 4 and no 3 point line
They about to put a statue of Pete in front of the LSU Assembly center.
There was a flip side to that coin. As one example, Dan Issel, who was the center at Kentucky, said that coach Adolph Rupp told them to let Maravich get his 50..just don't let the rest of the team get anything. Kentucky was 6-0 against LSU with Maravich. For most of Maravich's career, winning didn't come before his being the star. Again, I blame his father.
Let this sink in: Pete graduated from LSU in 1970. He only played 3 years in college... no 3-point line... stiff (not breakaway) rims... dunking was illegal... and he STILL holds the NCAA D1 scoring record. Since 1970! And he did it all with an un-diagnosed congenital heart condition, which eventually killed him. Imagine if he'd had a good heart.
Crazy
Pete was all heart
@@AntHenderson2 The man was a magician with the ball. His scoring records still stand, BUT his ball handling skills were what made all that happen.
Maravich is the source for showtime basketball.
The game was not played that way until Pete did it. He could score on anybody at Will.
The are several keys in that video but one is the offer by The Globetrotters to come play with them. That would have been the biggest Contract in basketball history at that time.
More importantly given race relations at that time that speaks volumes on how good he was.
I was at his Jersey retirement here in Salt Lake City. I took my youngest brother then about 16.
They played the highlight reel and he was slack jawed at how great he was.
I yelled down to the floor and said “” Give Him A Contract.””!! The crowd chuckled Pete looked up towards me and flashed a smile.
On that reel he takes a defender From 20 ft out on the right wing underneath the rim and out to about 16ft to 18ft on the left wing and stops.
He takes a quick glance over his left shoulder then back to the floor.
Defender gives up on the play.
Pete picks the ball up off the dribble and tosses a no look behind the back hook shot with nothing but nylon.
Defender is stunned and gives him a well if that’s the way you are going to be about it look.
The answer to your question really is I would play Jerry at the point and Pete at the two.
Pete was the Genesis of showtime basketball. There was nobody better. There never will be because nobody is willing to be that obsessed and work that hard.
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I saw him play several times, one of them the 68 point game against the Knicks. He had Walt Frazier, one of the best defenders of all time, talking to himself the entire game. I followed his college career and it was amazing to see. If he was playing in today's game, at his prime, he would the the top scorer on a regular basis with the three-point shot, no question at all. Plus, for the 1970's, he was a big guard height-wise and when you added that to his basketball talents he was unstoppable. Only injuries and playing for bad teams kept him from winning NA titles or MVP's. He was that good.
And in a funny note, I actually played in a game against Lew Alcindor in high school. He went to Power Memorial High School and I went to another parochial school in Brooklyn, Xaverian High School. He was a senior in 1964 and I was a junior and I got in during garbage time because we were losing big and it was unbelievable to see him up close on the court. I was 5'11", which was normal for high school in those days, and he towered over me. He was only in for a few possessions before they took him out and I never got a chance to try to take a shot against him. He was very affable and shook everyone's hand after the game.
The problem with Pete is he was born 50 years before his time. If he played today, with how they allow ball handlers to dribble, no hand checkin , wider spacing, three point shots, he'd be doin things we have never seen before. His jersey would be the #1 best seller in the world, and he'd be the most popular player in the league. Pistol, back in his day, was blackballed by coaches, players, refs, and even his own teammates. RIP to the originator of "Showtime." Great vid as always bro...
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Pete all day long he was the original entertainer that changed the way people played
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West was the bette player
Jerry West is the face of the NBA logo the Pistol Pete is the heart of it
Pistol Pete was my hero when I was 13 yrs old. I’m almost 63 now. I spent hours trying to replicate his moves. He’ll always be the GOAT to me.
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I was born in 64 but I remember my two first sport Heroes, Pistol Pete and o.j. Simpson. And later in my teenage years Pete Rose had the biggest influence because of my preferred sport. And to this day Pete Rose and probably Muhammad Ali in my book The World According to me are the greatest of all time sport Heroes
Maravich was at LSU from 1966 through 1970, but as he emarrator said, no Freshmen were allowed to play on the Varsity Team, as mentioned, no 3-Point line, Hand check fouls were no called, and no shot clock, all of which would have boosted his scoring. I could drive from Houston, Tx to LSU to see his games, when the Jazz came along, we could go to those games, too. HIs last year, he played for the Celtics in Larry Bird's rookie year. College Bassketball was taped by other schools to learn from Maravich, espcially Bird.
Pete probably holds the NBA record in the category "Making defenders look bad"
Pete’s got my vote. And you have a new subscriber. 👍
Thanks for watching!
57ppg if threes counted in college.
That’s crazy!! 🤯
I saw Pistol Pete play against the Sixers. His passes were before his time. He was Majic before Majic with his passing ability. He shot outside the three point line distance. (There was no three point line back then.) Today if he played he would be unstoppable. Put some respect on his name. Watch other videos of him. You will not be disappointed.
Damn, Imagine a player now averaging the same college scoring output as the Pistol. Adjusted for the 3pt line is 57pts per game. The top college scorer from the 2021-22 season averaged 25.2pts per game.
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Pistol! He was something to watch! The college GOAT, and NBA legend. Wish he was still with us.
Fortunate to watch Pete Maravich and the Bayou Bengals play against the Kentucky Wildcats at the old Memorial Coliseum when I was in elementary school.
Agreed that UCLA under coach W. had the longest Title winning streak in college history, between Walton and Kareem (plus numerous other all-stars to be in the NBA).
But you know Pete's estimated average for college was 57, when adjusting for 3 point shots.
Pete was not a normal human being. His scores and records will never be broken.
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Pistol averaged 44+ points for his career in college and led the NBA in scoring
In the 70's the Globetrotters had a Saturday morning Cartoon show.
That is incorrect…
Pete got his name as a very small child when he was too small to shoot a regulation sized ball.
The ball was too heavy for him, so he would heave it all of the way from his hip, which looked like a gun slinger drawing his “pistol”.
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He was the bomb...my HS Coach was 7th 1968 said best he ever saw
"Pistol Pete invented Showtime." -- Magic Johnson
That’s crazy
Best pure jump shooter I have ever seen. Many of his shots were from what would have been the three point line. He got amazing elevation. Impossible to block. The first time I saw him, I completely changed my game.
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Pistol Pete all day that man was ahead of his timea lot of the great players got their stuff from pistol Pete he was nasty
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Also remember, Pistol Pete is the silhouette for the NBA logo.
Jerry West
No one player was going to average over 40 points per game on the talent loaded UCLA teams coached by John Wooden. Pistol was basically the whole offense with LSU. Having your father as coach doesn't hurt either. Not to diminish the Pistol at all but comparing Lew Alcindor (Kareem) at UCLA and Pistol Pete at LSU is truly comparing Apples to Oranges.
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Great post.
In a real world, you know Kareem had Jamal Wilkes on his college team for all three years.
Ant, Thank You for the Video of the “PISTOL”, the Greatest Scorer in College Basketball History.
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Crazy with no three point line to avg that many per game.
Wild!
Pete ✅. Great vid dude 👍
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You should react to the 68 point game. It be worth it for you
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I watched that game as it was happening when. It was unreal.
They finally about to put up a statue in front of the Assembly Center.
If they wouldve known about his heart he prop wouldve nvr played
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Not mentioned is Pete found Christ before his death...and was the happiest he ever been. Pete was a gift to the game, but misdirected his entire life. I believe God was just waiting for him to get saved and bring him home.
He said that all he wanted to be remembered as was that 'I am a Christian.' Enough said. The only thing in life that matters for ETERNITY.
Kareem (Lew Alcindor back then) was playing for John Wooden and had an awesome team all four years. those three were 3 of 10
BEING 65 YEARS OLD NO MATTER HOW MUCH I RESPECTED JERRY WEST PISTOL PETE WAS THE BEST. PERIOD!!!!!!!!
Another great job Mr H D. Saw Maravich 1970 (senior season) against Ole Miss. They 'held' him to (only) 37 points. However, I cannot describe the assists he made. He was criticised for 0 defence. However, he led most games in steals which is rarely mentioned. Asked prior to his death what he wanted to be known for: 'I just want to be known as a Christian.' Enough said. ETERNITY is all that matters for anyone.
Appreciate it!!
I remember watching a few Pistol Pete games on TV and as I recall therer wasn't much talent besides the Pistol on those teams. Is this correct?
Leading in steals doesn’t necessarily mean he played great defense.
Jerry or Pistol? That's a tough one. Personally, I'd give the nod to Pistol as he was so damn innovative. Too innovative for that era as most NBA players were pretty conservative. His scoring average speaks for itself because of his work ethic. Pistol is my favorite college and NBA player. And he is my 6th man on the squad of Kareem, M.J., the Doctor, Bird, and Magic. I was fortunate to have watched him on TV many times back then with a dropped jaw. Unbelievable!
That question is almost unfair. I'm 72 and love them both, as hoop sons.
If you only know how much I admire the magic of Pete;
. . . But I'll take the Pure GENERALSHIP of Jerry West . . .
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People say he shot too much? Well how did defenses let him get that many off? If his teams sucked and he shot the ⚽️ the most, wouldn’t it be easy to just defend him? They couldn’t figure that out in his 4 years of college?
Pete was doubled, and tripled teamed.... Yet still averaged 44 a game. And dishing 9-12 dimes.
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Bro, back in the day The Harlem Globetrotters went up against The Lakers and kicked their asses!
Jerry West. Defense and clutch
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Pete would be my sentimental pick over Jerry West, but West had a more productive career, and a personally focused mentality towards his basketball goals in general.
Jimmy Page like Jerry West is greatest rock guitarist in mine and many others book because of body of work Pistol Pete was like Hendrix though. He was a whole different level in 20's at college and on his shitty NBA teams. Globe Trotters were bigger than NBA when he came into league - and he turned down $1,000,000. He wrote the book on ball skills and had a stroke every bit as good as Curry's today. Dropped 68 on my boy Clyde at MSG! That would have easily been 75 if not 80 with 3's! That was in Center dominated days too. Bad knees ended career - and its so crazy how he somewhere feared dying at 40 and then did - playing a pick up game. Top 20 on my list for sure! And when at apex of his game he was baddest man on planet!
West also had a better team. Without Pete his teams had ZERO chance.
To this day big name players like Kobe Bryant say they owe a great amount of there success to the Pistol and his dribbling videos
Still the all time leading score in The NCAA. No 3 point line back in his day. You couldn’t play as a freshman
As a scorer, ball handler and possibly as a passer, he was arguably one of the best, by far. But, like in any sport, there are many aspects to the game and as time goes by, the game changes with new offenses as well as new rules, which can affect a player’s production in a certain area. Just like in the NFL, it’s a more QB friendly game now, which begs the question, “How many passing yards would Elway, Marino, Montana and others have had, playing in this era?” However, his NCAA scoring speaks for itself.
I got to see Pistol score his 3000th point against Mississippi State in Baton Rouge as when I was 12
He was built different
He only played in college for three years, there was NO three point line, and he still to this day holds the D1 scoring record. He scored more than Jordan did, when he was in college at NC.. think about that.
Watch and be amazed.
Who would I choose? First, if pistol and Jerry switched teams, Pistol would have been known as the best point guard in that era, hands down.
Hi HogDawg. There is a wonderful biography, about, Pistol Peat, it is on UA-cam. "The Life And Times Of Pistol Pete Maravich". From birth 'till death. Even if you do not watch sports, everyone should see this.
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I saw the Globetrotters in the mid 70's. The night I went, they did beat the Generals.
just making an assumption, before you watch the video, that Kareem had to be a better player because he won some championships... It's kind of like assuming that Eli Manning was better than Dan Marino if you didn't know about one of them. strength of the teams they were on really do come into play. It was fun watching you seemingly change your mind throughout the video, though
Championships most definitely don't tell a full story.
After all...Robert Horry has 7 rings, and Charles Barkley has zero. But which player are you taking in their prime for your team?
@@MrVvulf oh that was precisely my argument. I would never take Eli Manning on my team, but I would take Dan Marino in a second
@Alan ela......oh man would I love to see Marino play in today's era. With that lightning quick release....
3,000 points in 83 games?? …that was in college , but damn! That’s an entire NBA season
The pistol
Pistol Pete was the first guy to have handles 🔥. This man was making 60 points before there was a 3 point line.
Kareem (Lew Alcindor) was the 2nd greatest college basketball player of all-time!! Pistol was #1! Championships are won by teams, but individual records are different!
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Pete did not have the supporting cast that Kareem had.
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What he WAS was the most entertaining player… ever!
Pistol Pete!!! Hands down👍
Maravich was done a horrible disservice when his father, living vicariously through his son, insisted that young Pete play for him at LSU, then let him shoot the ball as much as he wanted. The elder Maravich was displaying his "creation" for the world to see, but along the way he neglected to teach young Pete the most important element of the game: how to take all those amazing tricks and use them to stick the knife into his opponents. That's what differentiates Maravich from Bird, Johnson, Jordan, etc (Larry and Magic in particular were both influenced by Maravich). For the latter three, any razzle dazzle was a means to an end, which was to kick the living crap out of their opponents. Last I checked that was the object of the game.
Damn makes sense
You're right about that, but Pete developed that killer instinct late in his career which is why he finally won a title with Bird in Boston. He finally realized it's more important to get your teammates involved in winning games and ultimately the championship. You're right in saying early on in his career he was more involved in showboating, putting on a show for the fans which did not include his teammates in playing team ball. That's because Press let him do all that shit at LSU.
Actually he didn't win a title with Bird in Boston. He was with the Celtics for the latter part of Bird's rookie year (which was Maravich's last). He did contribute, and he finally accepted being a role player and not the star, but Boston still would have won the division without him.
@@toddfrank3344 You're right, he didn't win a title with Boston, I thought they did, but I forgot the Dr J led 76ers took care of Bird and the Celtics. But my main point stands in that he realized the importance of playing team ball later in his career, and it's not really his fault. His Pops made him the show boater star that he became by having him shoot all the time and play reckless ball. Still, the guy was quite a player!
@@tubucoco Oh, his individual skills were beyond belief. As far as I know the only white guy to ever be offered a contract with the Globetrotters, and he knew enough tricks to be all of them rolled into one. I love the story when he gets called for traveling after..I think he passed the ball to himself off the backboard..and he tells the ref, "How can you call me for traveling? You've never seen that before!" LMAO Unfortunately, he realized the importance of playing a roll on a winning team too late..by then his body was breaking down. You know, regardless of your religious beliefs (or non beliefs), the way he conducted himself after basketball was an example for everyone to follow. His belief in Christ brought him peace, and even though he died way too young, he was happy. In life, Maravich became the ultimate WINNER.
Christian Latener went to the Final 4 all 4 years when he played at Duke. He played in the Final game 3 times and won 2 of them. I think he is a candidate for best college player ever.
Ahem. Check out a fella named Lew Alcindor!
They said they melted down all 5 Harlem Globetrotters and made Pete Maravich
If Pete would have had a 3 point line, he would have averaged 58 points a game, in college.
Kareem’s team was loaded. Pete was the best in college
He does hold the NCAA points per game ave of 44 .5
I would go with Pete over Jerry, but only because I'm biased. I grew up going to Jazz games in New Orleans and was actually in attendance when he scorched the Knicks for 68 points. What they didn't mention is he also fouled out with almost 2:00 minutes left in the game.
Pete Maravich was a highly talented ball handler, passer and scorer. That enabled him to be what he wanted most: A Showman and entertainer. And man was he ever. But as a clutch player, he was mediocre at best and played little to no defense. Jerry West was known as Mr. Clutch and was NBA 1st team all defensive squad just about every year until he incurred injuries late in his career. Offensively, he was an assassin among the league scoring leaders year after year. And did so always within the team concept. His image is the league logo not because his name was drawn at random. But rather because his superior talent in all aspects of the game combined with a Jordanesque will and determination to win made him a logical choice (as were a few others not chosen). I enjoyed your reaction to the Pistol Pete video
and commend your open minded view of where Maravich rates all time. I will let others debate that. But your question regarding who was better Pete Maravich or Jerry West is so easy to answer because it is not really close. Of all the shooting guards in NBA history, I would take only Michael Jordan and Oscar Robertson ahead of West. Thanks for asking and good luck with your channel.
Thanks for watching!!
I would take either or both: Jerry West, Pete Maravich. Both played before the three pointer and were still great scorers and passers.
Great video, sad career for Pete Maravich. Early on the Hawks had a chance to pair him and Julius Erving, but Philly took them to court and got Dr. J. We all lost out on what might have been a legendary pairing of Maravich and Erving. They played together in a couple of All Star games and had a great chemistry. Erving wound up on a great Philly team with Moses Malone, George McGinnis, Bobby Jones and Maurice Cheeks, while Maravich wound up on a bunch of bad teams.
It would've been something to see the Hawks with Erving and Maravich.
Jerry is the logo, but Pistol changed the game.
And very similar to Larry Bird playing with bad back and achilles problems, Maravich did all this with a completely missing coronary artery-!!! The greats often plow through adversity like its just another day, until it unfortunately catches up with them in some cases.
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The Pistol will go down as one of the grandest wizards of basketball as rightfully he should, but notice the video only talked about his offensive prowess. The reason for that is because he played very little defense, which led to him not getting the minutes a player of his talent would warrant. He was more of an offensive specialist but a liability on defense.
Takin Pistol all the days!
Kareem did ok but understand that UCLA won 10 National Championships in 12 years, including 7 in a row. UCLA was beyond legend and they had many more players than Kareem. BTW, the matchups with Kareem and Elvin Hayes were fantastic!
Pistol Pete gets my vote (no offense to Jerry West, watched him a lot too in those days). Maravich was way ahead of everyone in those days. He left us too soon.
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Yeah, he definitely got a better start than Kareem. He was actually holding his own in the NBA, but the Jazz never got him any help. Got traded. Didn't get any help. Unfortunately no rings.
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I appreciate the pausing. Too many reactors talk over the video commentary they are supposed to be listening to.
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West or Maravich...no contest...The Pistol
Yes, the Globe Trotters were bigger than the NBA
That is a tuff one. Like both men. I guess Pistol PETE.
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No three poi t line or shot clock
He played on terrible teams, both in college and the pros. Kareem played on an incredible UCLA team, then with Oscar Robertson and the Bucks and of course the loaded Lakers team. Pistol was the absolute man!!
I would go with the Pistol, but I got to see him play. Jerry West was right before I got into Basketball so I never got to watch him play.
Pistol still hold NCAA records
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44.5 ppg! NCAA D1 2nd is 34ppg? WITH NO 3 pointers! Its argued that would be 57 ppg today. Drop mike! Yes Globe Trotters bigger than all of NBA in early mid 60's
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Larry Bird, then Pistol and West
Also remember Kareem went to UCLA which was a powerhouse and was dominant before he arrived and after he left. Pistol went to LSU which at the time was one of the worst schools for basketball.The sadness of Pistol Pete to me was that no team he ever played on, except his last season which was with the Celtics, had good players around him. By the time he went to the Celtics though he was past his prime and the Celtics had just gotten Larry Bird. I think he was only there half a season or something like that anyway but it saddens me that if he hadn't retired and the Celtics had kept him, he would have had a ring that next year.
Good point
Can you do a reaction to Mitch Richmond?? Probably one of the most underrated players of all time.
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@@AntHenderson2 m.ua-cam.com/video/M6Cg1Nz05QU/v-deo.html hope this helps! He’s a brilliant player to cover, a 90s hall of Famer who is often overlooked.
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Another great link to watch, THE DUEL between Richmond and Michael Jordan. MJ wins but Richmond makes him earn every point.
There will never be a greater basketball player than "PISTOL" PETE MARIVICH!!! HE was a basketball android.
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My hero was Magic Johnson, but Magic got his moves from Pistol.
A healthy Pete Maravich and a young Larry Bird would have tore up the league! They would be competing to make the best pass, shot, steal, rebound, on and on! They would have had a dynasty, just my opinion. If Pete had been on a college team with the help like Kareem had, I don't know if it would have worked or not. He could not be taking 40 shots a game on a good team. At the same time, you gotta let him play HIS ball! I don't know, tough call. Jerry West was great all around player. Pete wasn't. I pick Pete as the GOAT due to scoring that much on a lousy team was tough.
I think Larry Bird may be the greatest college player
Really?!
@@AntHenderson2 Yeah, mostly based off his senior year lol
Pete over West hands down. Watch his 68 point game. He never should have been cleared to play ball on any level due to his rare heart condition. Lack of O2 scarred his heart for 30+ years. Should have been dead by 15 or 20. He was unstoppable and ran rings around anybody. Teammates didn't know when or where the ball was coming from. Streamlined in motion and effort to enable a body unkowingly not fit for jumping jacks. Bird's dad told him if you practice, maybe you can shoot all the time like Maravich. His ncaa records will never be beaten. Only 3 seasons on varsity. GOAT!
The Pistol all the way! West was good, but played on better teams, the Pistol played on bad teams where he was mostly the show.
Pete was a little before my time but if I remember correctly, the rap on him was he was a "ME" player and not a team player. I mean he was a great player but his teams never won anything because it was always about him. Or thats the perception I got. maybe I'm wrong?
That’s the perception i got too
@@AntHenderson2 I started following the Knicks when I was 9 in 1969. They were very team orientated. My dad loved them and though he respected Maravich and he was fun to watch I remember him saying he would never win anything because of the way he played. And I am pretty sure he never did. he also died at 40 years old. I believe a Heart attack.
@@AntHenderson2 My dad made me into a big Knicks fan when I was 9 in 1969 just before their first championship. Even though I barely follow basketball any more because defense became so unimportant starting in the late 70's and now all they do is shoot jump shots, and I really HATE that "super team" concept were the stars dictate where they want to form the next one. The Knicks were the first team I loved. They were team orientated and Maravich was the complete opposite of that team ethic from what my dad said. He was fun to watch but you really didn't want him on your team if you wanted to win anything. Thats from my dad not me. Hey, I was used to Frasier, Barnette, Later Earl the Pearl Monroe, Bradly, Debuscherre and Reed. Monroe had a ton of moves too but he had to tone it down when he came to the Knicks.
Funny you mentioned the Globetrotters. No, not in NY they were not as big as the NBA or even college hoops but they were much much bigger than they are now. It was like wrestling is today. Very popular and very scripted and phony as hell. They played the same dam team of white stooges(the generals) every game who's only purpose was to stand there and let the Trotters make them look stupid. It was like going to the circus or as I said a WWE event. Even at "9" time I knew it was phony but again, it was fun to watch. Maravich actually would have been perfect on them as the only white dude.
Oh Jerry West if I want to win championships. Pete if I want to sell tickets.