I Wasn't Into THE WHO...Until NOW! Bass Teacher REACTS to John Entwistle on "Won't Get Fooled Again"
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➡️ FINGERS OF THUNDER! I get it now: John Entwistle is the calm, cool, and collected bass player powering “The Who” with plenty of rumbling, musical voltage. As a longtime fan of Rush and Yes, I feel rather silly never going back to study the guy who heavily influenced Chris Squire and Geddy Lee, but here we are. Today, I give my first full listen to “Won’t Get Fooled Again”, live from Shepperton Studios in 1978. I talk about John’s rock-solid and heavy-handed technique approach, how his subdivided bass melodies add TONS of energy to the song, how using open strings change the intensity of a bass groove, the interesting “ebb and flow” from the rhythm section (due to Keith Moon’s unique accent placements), and much more.
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I did NOT realize this was Keith Moon's last performance with the band until just now after going back to the video. Whoa. I do a little research before these (not too much), but enough to get an idea of what the band is about. Really tragic after reading about his death. As a Mike Portnoy follower for a long time, I always loved how much he shared his love for Keith Moon, and I can see why Keith was such a unique, anomaly of a drummer. I can see his tendency to "react" to the energy of the other 3 on stage, instead of being the "anchor". It's like he's feeding off of Pete and Roger, versus the other way around (like most bands). It's a really unique way to shift the energy around the ensemble. I appreciate all your comments! 💙
that performance is the finale of the 1978 rockumentary The Kids Are Allright. On disc 2 of the special edition DVD bonus features you can watch the entire song with just the OX cam and with the isolated bass. ua-cam.com/video/80dsyo2Ox-0/v-deo.html
The Who had the most unusual instrumental roles of any popular rock group. I seem to recall that Pete Townshend stated that they had a drummer who played like a keyboard player, and a bass player who played like a lead guitarist; so he had function as the rhythmic center at all times. However, it helped make them what they were. (Cream had three soloists, so they also had a bit of that as well, but studio Cream and live Cream were different. The Who were like that in all environments.)
They’re often described as a band with four lead players.
Just for timeline purposes, this song was released four years before Rush made their debut album.
Keith was a mess by this point, this is far from his best work. You need to hear Live at Leeds to truly hear this band at peak performance
John Entwistle is the man. How you have never got into him as a bass player is mind boggling. But now you have heard of John Entwistle and have been educated.
Entwistle came before the others by a long shot. He influenced the others you mentioned.
Can’t believe he didn’t know that. A little research before making a video perhaps?
@@WesFanManI can, lot of people think nothing important happened before 1990.
@@WesFanMan ahh these kids on the world wide web with their history facts . if they dont know the story , they make it up .
@@smythharris2635 nothing important, for the good anyway, after 1990...lol
At least he acknowledged that. He didn't come off trying to be authoritative about it like So Many Do across the board on subjects on You Tube. When often times they're just a shallow fanboy, and don't know shit!
Entwhistles isolated bass tracks are phenomenal. Those Alembic basses and his sound is unique and out of this world.
I couldn't agree more and a fine French horn player. John was a proper musician, terrible with money but one of the all time greats of British rock & roll.
John Entwistle is basically considered the best bassist in contemporary music. He literally played lead bass, such a full sound. Since you’re a Warwick artist I’m sure you’re familiar with Angeline Saris. She’s a monster talent and a complete sweetie pie
@billc --- It's very nice to hear people who are familiar with Angeline Saris and her talent as a bass player.
She and I were very close friends for many years while I lived in Marin County, 2001- 20012.
It's been great watching her progression into a very well respected, and influence in the bass world.
I'm back living in L.A. again, my home city, and a lot of my friends are famous and or accomplished musicians, always have been, in L.A. and Marin County.
I don't want to start dropping names. Hahahaha but trust me, you have heard of all of them.
Live at Leeds - if you want hear Entwistle and the band completely unleashed this is the album. Many feel it’s the most intense live recording of all time.
Great album, but it's not really a live recording is it
Considered the greatest live album, and The Mighty Who set the bar very high for live albums and certainly live performances. From 1967 to 1975, The Who dominated the stage.
I grew up with that record!!!
My home town! :)
Exactly. They didn't release another live album.
Look for the youtube video of this song, including "Isolated Bass" in the title. The camera is on John the whole time, and you will see why they call him Thunderfingers. Brilliant technique for the time - and he did not rest on his laurels either. He was playing faster and with more technique in the last few years before he died than when in the 70s and 80s.
ua-cam.com/video/80dsyo2Ox-0/v-deo.html This is the best - amazing!
Yes it is amazing! He's just chillin jamming out while Pete is all over the place! Coke has different effects on different types 😂
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fucking life-changing
came here just to type the same, amazing playing
@@jonathanmoon86 if it all boiled down to coke , i suggest you buy a big bag before your next gig .
John said he was not a bassist, he played bass guitar. There is a video where he demonstrated what he meant. He used a lot of treble and distortion. Amazing musician.
My best friend in high school took me in 1981 to a midnight showing of The Kids Are Alright. This live performance at Shepperton Studios was filmed for the movie. It was an electrifying experience to see it on the silver screen. I was instantly transformed into a fan of The Who.
John Entwistle is the man. I've always liked watching him play. None of us will criticize you for doing more Who reaction videos.
They started in 65'
Also: in their early days they hung out at a music shop owned by a drum teacher named “Jim Marshall”. Townshend in particular was constantly complaining that he wasn’t loud enough, so Jim created an amp by reverse engineering the Fender Bassman amp and souping it up - The Marshall amp was born……
@csoanes01 thanks for sharing!
Thank you! I'm just late to the game, and it was really cool finally witnessing THE band who influenced all of my other favorite bands.
@@douglasennis7291 Earlier than that.
Watched a documentary on The Who once where Noel Gallagher referred to the band as having 4 leads: lead singer, lead drummer, lead guitar, and lead bass.
Think that's a pretty good way to look at The Who.
Heard similar said by quite a few in description of The Who. I'd agree, and what's more they make it work!
Same as Led Zeppelin.
Greg, I don't know if you're old enough to have seen them. I did, LA Sports Arena 1979, and LA Coliseum 1981 (with the Clash opening for them). They were so, so great live.
Usually referred to on LA KLOS and KMET as The Mighty Led Zeppelin.@@craig2347
@@frederickglasser5617Oh, stop showing off! That's nothing. I saw Sigue Sigue Sputnik live in Cardiff in '86. 😂
Entwhistle was also a french horn player. Something that factored into his unusual (for the time) approach to bass playing. He was instrumental in the development of Rotosound Swing Bass roundwounds. He also used all four fingers of his plucking hand. The bass in this video is an Alembic custom made for him. Prior to that he first used a JB and later on his Fenderbird” - a Gibson Thunderbird he modded by installing a Fender Jazz neck on it. Entwhistle’s influence on the sound of electric bass is huge.
John Entwhistle, The Ox, or Thunderfingers. Under appreciated by the media. True Who fans, and musicians, knew how great he was. My favorite Who albums, Who’s Next, and Quadrophenia.
~ There's no h in the name Entwistle. Bugs the living crap out of me.
There are some great isolated bass videos on You Tube that are truly worth checking out. John Entwistle was a monster!!!
This is the link to the isolated bass track and isolated video for the same song!!! ua-cam.com/video/80dsyo2Ox-0/v-deo.html
Also there is the same type from the same show for Baba O'Riley, well worth a visit
Okay, sorry this will be my last one but if you love bass you need to see this one, just copy and paste in to the search.
John Entwistle - Throwback Thursday from the MI Vault
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The Who was a band with lead bass and rhythm guitar. John Entwistle is so under appreciated. Check out 5:15 (the song) live!
The Who also had a lead drummer.
The Who had a lead singer, a lead guitarist, a lead bass guitarist, and a lead drummer. They were all totally capable of stealing the show.
Yeah , you can watch The Who 5:15 Top of the Pops 73. It doesn't showcase Ox all that much, but it's not bad. Showcases Moon pretty well.
Which they did and the Rolling Stones did not like it at all!
Search 'The Who - A Quick One (While He's Away)'
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I think Townshend defies definition. Rhythm? More than that. lead? Eh, not quite. Some weird combination of the two, with all kinds of odds voicings and synchopations. And then he wrote almost all their instrumentations.
A bass teacher not knowing who John Entwistle is like a basketball coach not knowing of Michael Jordan. I weep for your generation. Guess what...Stevie Ray Vaughan and Jimi Hendrix are pretty good on the guitar.
You said it all.
Not knowing Entwhiste as a bassist is sad. And sounding almost condescending is really sad. Learn your subject.
Sounding like a condescending douche is really sad too so maybe calm down
It's amazing ignorance.
I was thinking exactly the same thing…
Three words - LIVE AT LEEDS. It's not only the best Who live album, it's the best live album ever.
You are correct Sir !
100% agreed.
Agreed, but J Geils runs a close second...:)
Man, its an Alembic. Brutal sound. Played through a set of Sun Coliseum amps. Entwistle had up to 3000 Watts only in the backline.
The center pickup, as I recall, is there just to cancel hum - if you look you’ll see it’s set deeper into the body.
Correct me if I’m wrong.
@@jonathanroberts8981 That is correct. The mid pickup is a hum cancelling dummy pickup.
Alembics were considered the Rolls Royce of basses.
You should see what they want for those now.@@dantesinfernopurgatory7826
His Alembic basses tended to have the Series 1 electronics
“The Real Me” or A”My Generation” really shows Entwistle in his groove!
John is not in your band, you’re in his. One of those guys that really showed what could happen if the bass comes out of the background.
(Hear a good deal of Geddy fills as well)
You started off with the BEST footage from The Who, IMHO. What an epic performance. I watched this clip probably 100 times ... The quality of the video and audio is unbelievable, like it was recorded a week ago 🙂
I am giving you a thumbs up but I'm not sure I agree 100%. So many epic live performances. A Quick One for Rock n Roll Circus is every bit as epic as this, maybe more.
The bass was custom made for him by Alembic. There's a clip floating around on UA-cam of this performance with Entwistle's bass track isolated. It's worth searching out.
"Quadrophenia" is probably the album I'd point you to first. "The Real Me", "5:15", "Drowned" I love the whole album, but these will let you feel it. JE also plays horns on this album. It is a concept album, I think it's their best.
Great suggestions! JE was probably the most trained musician in the Who. Too bad he went down the way he did at that age.
watch the movie "Quadrophenia" if you can find it
@@maxlevett7474 Ehhh. The soundtrack has some stuff replaced, especially the bass. I’d stick with the 1974 Quadrophenia release rather than the 1979 Quadrophenia movie.
Watch the film THE KIDS ARE ALRIGHT and I believe that you will witness the genesis of rock bass playing. Great reaction BTW. Cheers!
@@keefterry2155 Agreed. From those amazing runs on My Generation to the excellent Shepperton footage (Baba O’Riley and Won’t Get Fooled Again.) The Kids Are Alright is just fantastic.
God this performance is literally perfect. That actual definition of the word. Everything about it is captivating and so inspiring
Raw, unfiltered, all-out. If we send one video into space for the aliens to show them "rock n' roll", this might be the one. I just love the production quality for its time.
@@LowEndUniversity the production is insanely crisp considering the time. Definitely one of the things that surprised me on the initial listen. Great analysis and reaction
Appreciate that, Chance!!
Almost perfect. Townshend flubs the rhythm badly coming out of the B bridge. He shakes his head and smiles, and looks at Roger for his reaction.
@@LowEndUniversity Almost perfect. Townshend flubs the rhythm badly coming out of the B bridge. He shakes his head and smiles, and looks at Roger for his reaction.
A couple of things...Entwistle was the only one in the Who with real music education. He was a trained trumpet player. His incredible ability to fill out the song gave Townsend the freedom to not have to play rhythm so much. Also, when the Who was in their early stages, they were playing a show with a different drummer. Moon was in the audience, and in keeping with his personality he told them their drummer sucked. The guys cynically asked him if he wanted to sit in. Moon started playing, and Daltrey said it felt like a jet engine was behind him, and The Who had a new drummer.
Coincidentally Mark is an accomplished trumpet player also
@@JoneyJefe Cool. I think Flea was a trumpet player as well.
Not just trumpet, The Ox could play the entire brass section, Quadrophenia is filled with it!
".Entwistle was the only one in the Who with real music education." Not accurate. Townshend's parents were professional musicians, & he knew his music theory. Keith Moon took lessons with Carlo Little.
@@ericmalone3213 Just because Townshend's dad was a saxophonist and his mother was a singer does not mean he was a trained musician. Though his father taught him a couple of chords, Townshend was largely self-taught on the instrument and never learned to read music. Lacking the requisite grades to attend university, Pete was faced with the decision of art school, music school, or getting a job. He ultimately chose to study graphic design at Ealing Art College, enrolling in 1961. At Ealing, Townshend studied alongside future Rolling Stones guitarist Ronnie Wood. Townshend dropped out in 1964 to focus on music full-time. And yes, Moon took lessons, but no one taught him to play the way he did. And he didn't know anything about chords or music theory. Neither had music education to any degree....
This is one song from a show staged in a movie studio for filming. That's why the cinematography and sound is so good.
I am 72 years old and listening to this now brings me back to my teenage years jumping up and down in my bedroom to "I Can See for Miles."
This performance epitomizes what it is to be a rock star and why we all played air guitar.
I guess I'm reliving my youth because I still strap on a guitar and jump up and down with Pete and strum along. ..pretty damn influential, eh?
Playing along with live at Leeds as a freshman in high school pretty much set the foundation for my bass playing style. I didn’t know “lead bass” was a thing until then.
Live at Leeds is one of the best live albums every record. The quality of the sound system has to be heard to be believed.
right with you brother, same
Moon played the breaks rather straight and most often accented the vocals and power chords. As others have commented give “The Real Me” (from their 1973 album Quadrophenia) a listen. The bass lines in that song are the first take…. The FIRST TAKE. Entwistle was mucking about in the studio trying sort out the bass riff for the song and that’s what he developed for it. Absolutely stunning.
If there's one song that captures the quintessential Entwistle and Moon, "The Real Me" is it. The Who is kind of the opposite of how most bands work--the drums and bass are soloing while the guitar holds down the rhythm.
I saw The Who in 1975 at the Dane County Colosseum in Madison, WI. They played for over 3 hours and their encore was Magic Bus. It was one of the best shows I’ve ever seen 🎸🤘
OMG what an ending that had to be. If they ever invent a time machine, I will use it to go back and watch The Who.
Inconcievable, an estabished adult bass player just now discovering John Entwistle. Our first exposure to John Entwistle is the READSON most of us are bass players!
There's an isolated bass track to this vid. Highly recommended. Also, the entire Quadrophenia album is John Entwistle going off starting with The Real Me. (Which was done on the first take)
I saw The Who in concert in 1970, 1980 and 2019. So I saw this song twice. They are my favorite live band.
Loudest band live
I attended dozens upon dozens of concerts in the 70s, and saw lots of the big-name groups, and the Who is the best live band I've ever seen.
John Entwistle developed this style so he wouldn't get lost amidst lead vocals, lead guitar and lead drums. Truly one of the greatest bass players in rock! RIP Thunderfingers!
The bass is an Alembic Spoiler with seriously hardcore active electronics, especially for the time. Entwistle was a pioneer who was on the vanguard of bass gear and sound; in fact, we owe roundwound strings to his work with the James How company and Rotosound. He pioneered biamping as well, using guitar amps for the high end and gain. Also, his background in playing piano and French horn influenced his approach to the bass, and we also owe their manager in the 60's, Kit Lambert, a debt for telling John at rehearsal "It's well and good you're playing all those notes, but I can't hear what you're playing! Try turning up the treble?" Between that and John really liking Duane Eddy's signature twangy guitar sound, that's how a legend was born. I'm sure I'm missing a couple of details, there, but that's the gist of it.
The bass is actually an Alembic Spyder - note the sterling silver spider web inlays. As noted elsewhere, a play on Boris the Spider.
@@thecrazybassguy Ah, you're right, too!
@@MaskedRiderChris the bass was old at auction after John died. Fetched about £3,000..00 very cheap for what it is.
@@keithlegge6848 They should hve waited longer to sell them. I think he may have had debts when he died so they didn't waste time.
@@loosilu You are correct he did in fact have a tax liability. The UK tax authorities do not like to be kept from their money and that is why some of his possessions were auctioned.
The Who pre-dated Rush and Yes by quite a bit. They got together as a band in 1964, and had their 1st hit, "Can't Explain" in 1965. Yes evolved into their definitive lineup in 1971, while Rush did not reach their definitive lineup until 1974.
What Do You mean by definitive lineup in '71?
The Mighty Who in some form or another started in 1960. High Numbers, The Who, The Detours and finally The Who again. 1964 is the final line up when Moonie joined. The rest is history.
Moonie joined in 1964 and that completed The Who that we know and love. Actually The Who, The High Numbers, and The Detours from 1960 to 1964, all predated the 1964 Who line up with Moonie.
The Who were regarded as the best live band of all.They were also very,veryloud!
As my neighbours can confirm!!
Saw the Who live twice and as you say, they are awesome. Look up Osibisa (sunshine day) for another fantastic live band. Also the Equals were great live.
They were loud because each one wanted to take center stage. So they got in a pissing contest with having tons of speakers on stage for their contribution. Part of the uniqueness of the Who is how they all play like they're a soloist at the same time.
They shot this performance specifically for their documentary "The Kids are Alright". Great Roc doc.
We know who influenced who, and the answer is right there with The Ox. Every bass guitarist since his pioneering approach to the instrument, and to its role in a band context, who rolls the same way was either directly or indirectly influenced by John, and rightly so!
He definitely influenced Jonesy.
Entwistle was definitely the first to play in that style. He was the guv'nor. He would occasionally play with a pick too, but more often with his incredible and revolutionary finger technique.
And in that outro there he's playing chords. In my humble opinion, John Entwistle is the #1 bassist in rock history. Check out the WHO'S NEXT album, or QUADROPHENIA, or LIVE AT LEEDS for starters.
@drobichaud1000 What? Where the fuck did you get that from? How about you do some proper research before spreading completely false information. Not only is it not true it was also never alleged. By anyone. Ever. Crawl back under the rock you crawled out of.
Stanley Clarke?
@@smythharris2635 Plays a completely different style. Clarke used that slap and pop technique. Entwistle never slapped. His method was almost like tapping on a typewriter.
And Entwistle's career began earlier. Plus they were in mostly different genres.
The production is so good because this was filmed at Shepperton Studios specifically for the documentary The Kids Are Alright.
Agreed! John Entwistle was/is a legend. Loved seeing them live and he NEVER disappointed. The Who was special because it was influential talent on each instrument. Moon, Townshend, Entwistle were all legends and Roger was right there as a front man who put on an amazing show. Who, Stones, Rush, Zep, Eagles etc... those groups were all full of legends. The Who definitely predated Rush and Geddy was surely influenced by John who was 10 years older.
"What's he doing there?! Come on, cut to the bass!" - There's actually also a video of this same performance which shows only John and has his isolated bass track as audio! 😉👍
By the way, that Alembic bass has _two_ pick-ups, with a hum-cancelling dummy coil between them 🙂
Great video too, mate! 😀👍
You gotta react to these other Who songs: 1) The Real Me 2) Eminence Front 3) A Quick One While He's Away (the live version from Rock & Roll Circus). Entwistle is so foundational to modern bass playing for so many reasons, not the least of which is that Rotosound made their first set of roundwound bass strings by his specific request.
The Rock-n-Roll Circus is a must!
I always used flatwounds until I heard John on My Generation back in '65. That was the sound I wanted and I got some Rotosounds as soon as the local music shop could get them in. We were born on the same day in 1944 but, unfortunately for me, he got all the talent!
Rotosound 'Jet Bass' strings made for Jet Harris' Fender Bass VI were round-wound and date back to about 1962
It's more humorous than I expected watching some guy try to mimic Entwistle.
I love that you've got these three showboaters all acting like maniacs and Entwistle just standing there, all chill and groovy, playing away like nothin's nothin.'
Babysitting the kids 😅
Entwistle favored this EQ on a bass amp: Low at 3:00, Mid around 11:00, High "almost full out" which is between 9 and 10 on the dial (as opposed to clock positions). Presence/Brite engaged (all the way up, if adjustable). He recommended first turning lows on the instrument all the way down, and setting the highs to taste first, then adding the lows until you get a well-balanced tone. Fine tune from there. Monster sound that helps you get the most from your instrument.
Definitely check out the isolated bass from this performance!
Yes,saw that recently on YT.Mind blowing.
Great video! Glad you got around to the Who! As you are a bass master, I would respectfully submit further study of Entwistle. Often overlooked these days is Tommy. I would suggest a listen to 'Amazing Journey' and 'Underture' from that awesome concept album. Also 'Face the Face' from the album White City.
The Charismatic Voice (opera singer reaction channel) had a great way of describing Keith's drumming style. She said it looked like he was sword-fighting all the time, like in a film or something :D She also described John as the older sibling, patiently allowing the other three to muck about while he stood aloof, which was pretty funny to me, as I'm the second child of four...
There's a couple of great live clips that are well worth checking out too: "Young Man Blues" and "Water" from the 1970 Isle Of Wight festival, and to get an example of some live early Who, check out "So Sad About Us" from the Marquee Club" from 1966. And a couple of studio gems: "Melancholia" from 1968, which must be one of the earliest examples of that galloping bass rhythm, if not the first; "Getting In Tune" from the as-close-to-perfect-as-rock-album-can-get WHO'S NEXT album; their incredible live performance of "A Quick One While He's Away" which blew the Stones off their own stage in late 1968.
Saw them live in 1975 on their 'Who put the boot in' tour of football stadiums. This song should be played on a loop for 24 hours before any election!
Dude.... I was a child when my older sisters would play The Who. My Generation. Listen to that song. Released in 1965. The solo in that song is a bass solo. Who did that in the 60's? I met a guy that was a roadie for a Who tour. He told me that Entwistle had 32 channels on the mixer for just bass. When they played, Pinball Wizard, Townsend played the acoustic, and Entwistle came in as the distorted guitar on the intro. I think you can hear it on "Live at Leeds". The 32 channels were used for FX and such for the bass. Another interesting fact, Roger Daltry used to play guitar, but because he worked in a sheet metal factory, he cut up his hands so many times that he couldn't play well enough to keep up with it. Loved this band. I've listened to Tommy and Quadrophenia many times. Can any band today produce a rock opera? Please?
Listen to Quadrophenia with headphones you will be blown away by the late Entwhistles bass playing.Guaranteed!
There's a great video of The Real Me live at Royal Albert Hall that really shows Entwistle playing
It's a somewhat silly song, but Boris the Spider features Ox on vocals, with what some refer to as the first use of a death metal growl in the chorus...and his playing, particularly on that and on 905 is awesome...
oh so true to true to be sure
Trick Of The Light
The Quiet One! 🙂
Love Boris the spider 🕷️ growing up all spiders were called Boris - yeas my dad was a massive who fan especially John
John Entwistle helped develop the Rotosound bass string, because he wanted a sound that was more like that of a piano than a bass guitar. Also, he loved to crank the treble in his tone. He was one of the first to split his signal into separate bass and treble. Billy Sheehan and Steve Harris were also influenced by John Entwistle
John was one of the greatest bassists of all time. He moved around the fret board just as much as Geddy. The Who started around 1964 and were big years before Rush became well known. John’s influence on Geddy was huge. Someone has already mentioned the song The Real Me. The bass playing on that song is fantastic.
The Ox is a legend. I love his fills and additions into Pete's riffs. I'd love to see you react to and dissect their song The Real Me. That one's a real treat for bassists.
UA-cam has an isolated bass track from this performance, with the camera on John the whole time. You should definitely watch that!
I really like your take on this song. I recently started playing bass after trying to fill spots while I sing. Was doing backing guitar but we could fill that spot easier. I never realized how tied in Moon and Entwistle were until I started listening to songs with a bass centric mindset.
Pete Townsend said he derived great confidence as a guitarist hearing the full, rich sound of Entwistle’s bass coming from the other side of the stage.
I grew up with this music. The Who was the first band to crank up the gain, volume, and feedback and use it in the music. Entwistle was an innovator doing things on the bass and bringing it to the forefront, with the song My Generation.
The Who were huge in the sixties, long before Rush or Yes. They pioneered the use the use of Marshall Amps. 'The Who Live At Leeds' is thought by many to be the best live album of all time. Clapton, Hendrix and Page all worked on some of their albums as session musicians in the early days.
So amazing. I am glad you listened to this, the Who are fantastic.
Ok, I'm sure you've been told many times since you posted this video. But Entwistle is THE one who inspired your heroes Geddy Lee, Chris Squire and hundreds more. All this talk of "spawning" around the same time is a moot point; The Who were around while Lee and Squire were still in school and Entwistle was doing this kind of progressive bass playing in the early 1960s, never mind 1978.
Great bassist! I had no idea how good he was until I saw the bass play through of this song.
He played the bass like it was a lead and rhythm guitar. He filled in all the sound and gave Pete a lot of freedom to do whatever he wanted without leaving gaps in the sound
You have probably found this out by now, but this invitation only concert was specially filmed and recorded for the documentary film "The Kids are Alright". If you go onto UA-cam you will actually find John Entwistle's isolated bass track from this performance so you can see and hear specifically what he is doing. Also, check out his solo on My Generation, recorded in 1965 when he was only 20 years of age. He turned the bass guitar into a solo instrument in pop/rock music before anybody else which is one of the reasons he was (and remains) so influential.
Alembic made that bass to John's spec. The spiderweb inlays are sterling silver, homage to Boris the Spider, the first Who single he wrote and sang. Pretty sure he's wearing the black glass spider pendant here. The Ox had style.
It wasn’t a single
Dude as a bassist since the 80's and a watcher on YT of most things bass, you are actually KILLING this space and far better imo than anything else. I really appreciate all of the effort you put into these videos! CHEERS!
Additionally, You Sir are a MONSTER BASSIST as well imo. You have def put the work in and THANK YOU for that!
YES PLEASE DO GENESIS! As surprised as I was The WHo was new to you, early Genesis was new to me up until about two weeks ago. I took the deep dive and glad I did. You will be to.
I always love everyone’s facial reaction when the video switches to the lasers. Then that iconic scream. Lol Surprised you did not pick up on Roger swinging that mic by the cord.
There is a 6 camera view and camera specifically on John out there, definitely worth a watch just to see him go at it
That would be this one. ua-cam.com/video/hff0nQOu2wk/v-deo.htmlsi=tJG5Nno81mNNko12
To this day, I have yet to see a band live that's better than The Who with Moon. You absolutely need to check out more. They started in the early 60s along with the Stones and Beatles, so yeah, they influenced a lot of bands. Moon was Peart's idol.
Absolutely agree - I saw most of the major bands of the 'seventies but The Who were by far and away the most exciting both for their stage presence and the depth of their catalogue - everything from the singles through the Tommy/Quadrophenia material to the major tracks from Who's Next was pure class.
Ever hear of Led Zeppelin?
@davidcollins8529 yes. Not even close to The Who live. They were inconsistent and Page was often sloppy.
@@allabouttheU1662 The Stones and Zep were blues rock inspired. Both phenomenal bands. However, the Who are the most unique band to come out of Britain in that era; and they're my favorite of the three.
So here Entwistle is playing an Alembic series 1 bass. Custom shape but the layout is the same as a series 1. Quick history on Alembic. Founded in the late 60s in California (shocking I know) they were a pioneer in active basses. The black box in between the pick ups is a battery compartment for the active system. And if you look at the jack on the bass you will notice it's not standard. It a 5 or 6 pin (can't remember which) plug that goes to the famed Alembic box. This box gives the bass power so you don't have to rely on batteries (Albemics series basses are power hungry. The box also gives you the option of Stero much in the same way Rickenbacker works which one pick up in the left channel and the other in the right. And finally the reason why Alembics are power hungry is they don't use standard tone controls. Instead they opted for high pass and low pass filters. Wal does the same thing. And that is what gives Alembic their unique sound.
The bass is an Alembic Spyder with Series 1 or 2 electronics. The difference between the two is that Series 1 uses a 3-position Q switch for each pickup, while Series 2 has continuously variable Q for each PUP.
The middle “pickup” is a hum-cancelling coil. The battery compartment is on the back. Even though it could be powered by batteries, it is more common to use the 5-pin umbilical, which provides power to the electronics and carries separate signals for each pickup to a breakout box (which also supplies the power).
Each pickup has a low pass filter. The tone control actually varies the cutoff frequency of the LPF. Each filter has a Q control that controls a resonant peak at the cutoff frequency. Each pickup also has its own volume control. There is a 4-position rotary pickup selector switch for front/both/back/none.
The first time I heard John Entwistle’s genius was in “My Generation”, which was way back in 1965. Nobody was doing those lead-like bass fills then. This was came much before the Who’s Next album.
Probably the first record by The Who to show off Entwhistle's bass skills was "My Generation" from 1965, when Squire would have been 17 years old and Lee 12 yesrs old.
I was just like you about not knowing all about the Who. In my first band, we did play My Generation. I was more about Chris Squire and Geddy Lee. Loved your video!
There is a solo u have to check out. From a tour they took Ringo's son as their drummer.
Great live versions of The Who: Any live version of 5:15. Amazing Journey/ Sparks from Tommy Live in 1989. Any version of My Generation. He used a tone that was a combination of tones through one output. Entwhistle was a great bassist.
Moon & Entwistle... original Drum N Bass... i don't care for solos but i saw Entwistle solo during "5:15" in 1996 it was the highlight of a really good Who concert... fax!!!
Go to My Generation next. Really simple but effective bass line. And of course an amazing bass solo.
Welcome out of your cave. Now check out Live Cream, Crossroads and I'm So Glad. Entwhistle and Jack Bruce were rock's first virtuoso, LEAD bassists. Hugely influential on Squire and Lee. (That guy in the Beatles was pretty good too).
John Entwistle took this band to a whole new level of stardom by laying back and keeping perfect timing and giving these incredible fills and leads. He is the reason I pick up the bass, him and John Paul Jones.
I literally get tingles every time I watch this footage when they come back in after the laser show.
The Who are one of my all time favorite bands. My top 5 in no order ever: The Who, Tool, Zeppelin, Primus and Soundgarden (with a big nod to Temple of the Dog). Quadrophenia is a magical LP. Can listen to Entwhistle and Moon all day!
“They're quite right. I think I'm original, at least. I think I play like nobody else does. I always wanted to be John Entwistle, but since that place was taken, I became a lesser version.” - Lemmy
Great reaction to an epic live performance. Growing up, I was kind of like you. My niche was Prog, and the groups I listened to included Yes, Genesis, Rush, King Crimson and Pink Floyd. And The Who was the favorite group of my best friend (which meant I heard a lot of their music, even if it wasn’t one of my go to groups) I played bass, and of course was familiar with Entwistle’s amazing talent, so this reaction really resonates.
DUDE. Really. I was 17 when that flick came out-and I STILL get goose bumps hearing & seeing it. When the Bloody 'Oo was on-as they were there at Shepperton-the energy present could power a medium sized city-FOR A WEEK. It HAS to be played as LOUD as possible ! As stated earlier-the maker of the film-guy by the name of Jeff Stein-full blown Who freak-remastered it in the 2000's to include several out takes-including what he called "Ox Cam"-the cam that was assigned to John. You need to watch it. It will blow your socks off.
John Entwistle and Jack Bruce were probably the two most important bass players to emerge in the 1960s. (Of course, McCartney was a huge presence as well, and Jack Casady, as well). But Entwistle and Bruce REALLY stood out as inspirations to rock bass players in particular.
Moon never played a high hat or used it, if at all, like another crash.
The Who were around and recorded several years before Rush and Yes emerged. The Who's My Generation featured a bass guitar solo (around 1965), so I think it's fair to say the influence comes from Entwistle to everyone else, except for Jack Bruce, because Jack had a jazz background and developed a different style from Entwistle.
Bruce isn't in the same league as Entwistle imo.
Erm.. James jamerson?
Entwistle was way ahead of everyone in those days!! He was using Rotosound strings and actually designed the Swing Bass set. Changed strings every show back when no one was doing that.
Wasn't too long before Chris Squire and Greg Lake followed suit!! Pete once said "John changed the Effing instrument"
BTW Rick Turner built two of his Alembic Explorers when he was working at Alembic!! Also Entwistle played with a very low action!!
need to listen to the Live version of "My Wife from this show"!!
Entwistle had the first recorded bass solo (on My Generation) and led the way for so many. He kept the beat and the rhythm so that Moon and Townshend could go and do their thing. Phenomenal bassist. His style is often likened to flamenco strumming…
Fabulous. There are some multi-camera versions of this performance, so the screen is quartered and each band member is shown in his own section, that way you can watch John all the way through.
Yes, The Real Me should be the song to check out. But My Generation had what the first bass solo in rock? For me, I’d suggest “A Quick One While He’s Away” (The Rolling Stones Rock and Roll Circus live version) which is one of the best live performances ever captured
Check out "Eminence Front." It's basically a Rush song that just happened to be recorded by a band that wasn't Rush. It is one of the proggiest prog rock songs to ever prog.
A few other notes related to the video...
What Keith Moon lacked in hi-hat he made up for with floor toms.... so many floor toms.
In the event of a zombie apocalypse, my weapon of choice will be Roger Daltrey swinging a microphone. (Anyone familiar with the heft of an SM-58 understands this)
The Ox was clearly the "dad" of the group. Calmly standing over to the side, holding down the low end, trying to bring a little dignity to the production while the other three... do what they do.
I don’t hear Rush in “Eminence Front” at *all.* Especially the drums
I’m quite amazed at the quality of that 1978 recording, probably the most high end equipment money could buy you. Cool that it exists.
Saw Entwistle at the NAMM show in Chicago many years ago. He was plugged in to this, like, 12 ft. tall Ampeg amp of destruction. He was very comfortable with it all :-)
They say The Who is the only band with a lead vocalist, lead guitarist, lead bassist, and a lead drummer.
Lemmy was also heavily influenced by John entwistle too
Oh yeah, Lemmy stanned Entwistle and always made it really clear that he thought Entwistle was the GOAT.
@@MaskedRiderChrisLemmy wasn’t wrong in that thought. The Ox was a beast on 4 strings.
@@commanderjoj6426 It's funny how a lot of people (mostly guitarists who don't know when to stop shredding) still think "Oh, it's only four strings. What can you do with only four strings?" That and "THE BASS IS JUST TO ANCHOR THE SONG. NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS." Entwistle alone proved both those things wrong.
There is a video on UA-cam of this performance isolated on bass and with the camera focused on John Entwistle.
I saw the Who from front row center at the Garden State Arts center. I was blown away mesmerized watching Entwistle's fingers on his bass