I Wasn't Into THE WHO...Until NOW! Bass Teacher REACTS to John Entwistle on "Won't Get Fooled Again"

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  • @LowEndUniversity
    @LowEndUniversity  Рік тому +192

    I did NOT realize this was Keith Moon's last performance with the band until just now after going back to the video. Whoa. I do a little research before these (not too much), but enough to get an idea of what the band is about. Really tragic after reading about his death. As a Mike Portnoy follower for a long time, I always loved how much he shared his love for Keith Moon, and I can see why Keith was such a unique, anomaly of a drummer. I can see his tendency to "react" to the energy of the other 3 on stage, instead of being the "anchor". It's like he's feeding off of Pete and Roger, versus the other way around (like most bands). It's a really unique way to shift the energy around the ensemble. I appreciate all your comments! 💙

    • @heathcoffield1923
      @heathcoffield1923 Рік тому +9

      that performance is the finale of the 1978 rockumentary The Kids Are Allright. On disc 2 of the special edition DVD bonus features you can watch the entire song with just the OX cam and with the isolated bass. ua-cam.com/video/80dsyo2Ox-0/v-deo.html

    • @garygomesvedicastrology
      @garygomesvedicastrology Рік тому +10

      The Who had the most unusual instrumental roles of any popular rock group. I seem to recall that Pete Townshend stated that they had a drummer who played like a keyboard player, and a bass player who played like a lead guitarist; so he had function as the rhythmic center at all times. However, it helped make them what they were. (Cream had three soloists, so they also had a bit of that as well, but studio Cream and live Cream were different. The Who were like that in all environments.)

    • @paulobrien4694
      @paulobrien4694 Рік тому +10

      They’re often described as a band with four lead players.

    • @paulobrien4694
      @paulobrien4694 Рік тому +14

      Just for timeline purposes, this song was released four years before Rush made their debut album.

    • @TheZappawizard
      @TheZappawizard Рік тому +15

      Keith was a mess by this point, this is far from his best work. You need to hear Live at Leeds to truly hear this band at peak performance

  • @davidschecter5247
    @davidschecter5247 Рік тому +514

    Entwistle came before the others by a long shot. He influenced the others you mentioned.

    • @WesFanMan
      @WesFanMan Рік тому +47

      Can’t believe he didn’t know that. A little research before making a video perhaps?

    • @smythharris2635
      @smythharris2635 Рік тому +22

      ​@@WesFanManI can, lot of people think nothing important happened before 1990.

    • @peterbetts858
      @peterbetts858 Рік тому +12

      @@WesFanMan ahh these kids on the world wide web with their history facts . if they dont know the story , they make it up .

    • @denroy3
      @denroy3 Рік тому +6

      @@smythharris2635 nothing important, for the good anyway, after 1990...lol

    • @discernment8963
      @discernment8963 Рік тому +4

      At least he acknowledged that. He didn't come off trying to be authoritative about it like So Many Do across the board on subjects on You Tube. When often times they're just a shallow fanboy, and don't know shit!

  • @ronaldwilliams6927
    @ronaldwilliams6927 8 місяців тому +29

    Listen to Quadrophenia with headphones you will be blown away by the late Entwhistles bass playing.Guaranteed!

    • @kwpres
      @kwpres Місяць тому +1

      and listen to his album "Whistle Rhymes" Great horn player as well...

  • @acfiv1421
    @acfiv1421 Рік тому +333

    Look for the youtube video of this song, including "Isolated Bass" in the title. The camera is on John the whole time, and you will see why they call him Thunderfingers. Brilliant technique for the time - and he did not rest on his laurels either. He was playing faster and with more technique in the last few years before he died than when in the 70s and 80s.

    • @DaveDefoe
      @DaveDefoe Рік тому

      ua-cam.com/video/80dsyo2Ox-0/v-deo.html This is the best - amazing!

    • @jonathanmoon86
      @jonathanmoon86 Рік тому +14

      Yes it is amazing! He's just chillin jamming out while Pete is all over the place! Coke has different effects on different types 😂

    • @cougarhunter33
      @cougarhunter33 Рік тому

      ua-cam.com/video/80dsyo2Ox-0/v-deo.html
      fucking life-changing

    • @MrWidestripes
      @MrWidestripes Рік тому +5

      came here just to type the same, amazing playing

    • @peterbetts858
      @peterbetts858 Рік тому +8

      @@jonathanmoon86 if it all boiled down to coke , i suggest you buy a big bag before your next gig .

  • @senacht
    @senacht Рік тому +38

    Entwhistle was also a french horn player. Something that factored into his unusual (for the time) approach to bass playing. He was instrumental in the development of Rotosound Swing Bass roundwounds. He also used all four fingers of his plucking hand. The bass in this video is an Alembic custom made for him. Prior to that he first used a JB and later on his Fenderbird” - a Gibson Thunderbird he modded by installing a Fender Jazz neck on it. Entwhistle’s influence on the sound of electric bass is huge.

    • @jonchilds1637
      @jonchilds1637 4 місяці тому

      He was also one of the early protagonists of Maxima gold-plated strings - if you remember that far back!

  • @budo1968
    @budo1968 Рік тому +60

    John Entwistle is the man. How you have never got into him as a bass player is mind boggling. But now you have heard of John Entwistle and have been educated.

  • @bladeaddison3189
    @bladeaddison3189 8 місяців тому +7

    Agreed! John Entwistle was/is a legend. Loved seeing them live and he NEVER disappointed. The Who was special because it was influential talent on each instrument. Moon, Townshend, Entwistle were all legends and Roger was right there as a front man who put on an amazing show. Who, Stones, Rush, Zep, Eagles etc... those groups were all full of legends. The Who definitely predated Rush and Geddy was surely influenced by John who was 10 years older.

  • @bostonaudi
    @bostonaudi Рік тому +181

    Live at Leeds - if you want hear Entwistle and the band completely unleashed this is the album. Many feel it’s the most intense live recording of all time.

    • @kromkake666
      @kromkake666 Рік тому +4

      Great album, but it's not really a live recording is it

    • @trajan6927
      @trajan6927 Рік тому +9

      Considered the greatest live album, and The Mighty Who set the bar very high for live albums and certainly live performances. From 1967 to 1975, The Who dominated the stage.

    • @pariaheep
      @pariaheep Рік тому +7

      I grew up with that record!!!

    • @danpettinger1353
      @danpettinger1353 Рік тому +3

      My home town! :)

    • @Frank-sm9yl
      @Frank-sm9yl Рік тому +1

      Exactly. They didn't release another live album.

  • @lancevaughn432
    @lancevaughn432 Рік тому +30

    John Entwhistle, The Ox, or Thunderfingers. Under appreciated by the media. True Who fans, and musicians, knew how great he was. My favorite Who albums, Who’s Next, and Quadrophenia.

    • @5jerry1
      @5jerry1 9 місяців тому +1

      ~ There's no h in the name Entwistle. Bugs the living crap out of me.

  • @AnyRoadAnyTime
    @AnyRoadAnyTime Рік тому +164

    John Entwistle is the man. I've always liked watching him play. None of us will criticize you for doing more Who reaction videos.

    • @douglasennis7291
      @douglasennis7291 Рік тому +5

      They started in 65'

    • @csoanes01
      @csoanes01 Рік тому +18

      Also: in their early days they hung out at a music shop owned by a drum teacher named “Jim Marshall”. Townshend in particular was constantly complaining that he wasn’t loud enough, so Jim created an amp by reverse engineering the Fender Bassman amp and souping it up - The Marshall amp was born……

    • @shanecabbage2187
      @shanecabbage2187 Рік тому +2

      ​@csoanes01 thanks for sharing!

    • @LowEndUniversity
      @LowEndUniversity  Рік тому +17

      Thank you! I'm just late to the game, and it was really cool finally witnessing THE band who influenced all of my other favorite bands.

    • @gasaholic47
      @gasaholic47 Рік тому +1

      @@douglasennis7291 Earlier than that.

  • @ChrisKyle-om5wi
    @ChrisKyle-om5wi Місяць тому +4

    John was very well established by the time Rush and Yes came along. He was first to do bass solos and bass lead. He was one of the first to use round wound strings and helped develop Rotosound ‘66 which became the standard. He was first to stack amps, and he and Pete were heavily involved in development of the Marshall sound. They also made an art form of controlled feedback and distortion. Pretty much every rock band owe something to The Who.

  • @davecarroll9831
    @davecarroll9831 Рік тому +163

    There are some great isolated bass videos on You Tube that are truly worth checking out. John Entwistle was a monster!!!

    • @davecarroll9831
      @davecarroll9831 Рік тому

      This is the link to the isolated bass track and isolated video for the same song!!! ua-cam.com/video/80dsyo2Ox-0/v-deo.html

    • @davecarroll9831
      @davecarroll9831 Рік тому +10

      Also there is the same type from the same show for Baba O'Riley, well worth a visit

    • @davecarroll9831
      @davecarroll9831 Рік тому +9

      Okay, sorry this will be my last one but if you love bass you need to see this one, just copy and paste in to the search.
      John Entwistle - Throwback Thursday from the MI Vault

    • @brib9716
      @brib9716 Рік тому

      ua-cam.com/video/80dsyo2Ox-0/v-deo.html

  • @mysterysurf4554
    @mysterysurf4554 7 місяців тому +7

    The production is so good because this was filmed at Shepperton Studios specifically for the documentary The Kids Are Alright.

  • @trance9158
    @trance9158 Рік тому +89

    Entwhistles isolated bass tracks are phenomenal. Those Alembic basses and his sound is unique and out of this world.

    • @johnmichaelson9173
      @johnmichaelson9173 7 місяців тому +4

      I couldn't agree more and a fine French horn player. John was a proper musician, terrible with money but one of the all time greats of British rock & roll.

  • @johndrx165
    @johndrx165 2 місяці тому +3

    John Entwistle was very instrumental in the progression of bass sound in rock. He helped develop the RotoSound roundwound Swing Bass string. He played lead bass with lots of tone. The Who were one of the best live rock bands ever!

  • @scatpack440
    @scatpack440 Рік тому +117

    The Who was a band with lead bass and rhythm guitar. John Entwistle is so under appreciated. Check out 5:15 (the song) live!

    • @keithprice5719
      @keithprice5719 Рік тому +18

      The Who also had a lead drummer.

    • @gregoryeatroff8608
      @gregoryeatroff8608 Рік тому +21

      The Who had a lead singer, a lead guitarist, a lead bass guitarist, and a lead drummer. They were all totally capable of stealing the show.

    • @markdraine3571
      @markdraine3571 Рік тому +8

      Yeah , you can watch The Who 5:15 Top of the Pops 73. It doesn't showcase Ox all that much, but it's not bad. Showcases Moon pretty well.

    • @ramalama9650
      @ramalama9650 11 місяців тому

      Which they did and the Rolling Stones did not like it at all!
      Search 'The Who - A Quick One (While He's Away)'
      @@gregoryeatroff8608

    • @David-iv6je
      @David-iv6je 11 місяців тому +3

      I think Townshend defies definition. Rhythm? More than that. lead? Eh, not quite. Some weird combination of the two, with all kinds of odds voicings and synchopations. And then he wrote almost all their instrumentations.

  • @wildmanmountainjack3725
    @wildmanmountainjack3725 Рік тому +2

    So amazing. I am glad you listened to this, the Who are fantastic.

  • @gregjones9807
    @gregjones9807 Рік тому +123

    Watched a documentary on The Who once where Noel Gallagher referred to the band as having 4 leads: lead singer, lead drummer, lead guitar, and lead bass.
    Think that's a pretty good way to look at The Who.

    • @discernment8963
      @discernment8963 Рік тому +5

      Heard similar said by quite a few in description of The Who. I'd agree, and what's more they make it work!

    • @craig2347
      @craig2347 Рік тому +1

      Same as Led Zeppelin.

    • @frederickglasser5617
      @frederickglasser5617 Рік тому +2

      Greg, I don't know if you're old enough to have seen them. I did, LA Sports Arena 1979, and LA Coliseum 1981 (with the Clash opening for them). They were so, so great live.

    • @frederickglasser5617
      @frederickglasser5617 Рік тому

      Usually referred to on LA KLOS and KMET as The Mighty Led Zeppelin.@@craig2347

    • @ramsey6681
      @ramsey6681 Рік тому +3

      ​@@frederickglasser5617Oh, stop showing off! That's nothing. I saw Sigue Sigue Sputnik live in Cardiff in '86. 😂

  • @thomasoday7828
    @thomasoday7828 Рік тому +2

    I heard it said once, and I have seen it referenced in the comments. "The Who was a lead singer, lead guitarist, lead bassist, and lead drummer. All playing at the same time and they just made it work." (not and exact quote btw but close ;)

  • @littlejimmy7402
    @littlejimmy7402 Рік тому +103

    "Quadrophenia" is probably the album I'd point you to first. "The Real Me", "5:15", "Drowned" I love the whole album, but these will let you feel it. JE also plays horns on this album. It is a concept album, I think it's their best.

    • @gordonwalley1116
      @gordonwalley1116 Рік тому +5

      Great suggestions! JE was probably the most trained musician in the Who. Too bad he went down the way he did at that age.

    • @maxlevett7474
      @maxlevett7474 Рік тому +6

      watch the movie "Quadrophenia" if you can find it

    • @adelaideloop9732
      @adelaideloop9732 Рік тому +6

      @@maxlevett7474 Ehhh. The soundtrack has some stuff replaced, especially the bass. I’d stick with the 1974 Quadrophenia release rather than the 1979 Quadrophenia movie.

    • @keefterry2155
      @keefterry2155 Рік тому +7

      Watch the film THE KIDS ARE ALRIGHT and I believe that you will witness the genesis of rock bass playing. Great reaction BTW. Cheers!

    • @adelaideloop9732
      @adelaideloop9732 Рік тому +5

      @@keefterry2155 Agreed. From those amazing runs on My Generation to the excellent Shepperton footage (Baba O’Riley and Won’t Get Fooled Again.) The Kids Are Alright is just fantastic.

  • @stringcus
    @stringcus 8 місяців тому +4

    Keith can play the drums whith face expressions alone.

  • @Daddy53751
    @Daddy53751 Рік тому +55

    “The Real Me” or A”My Generation” really shows Entwistle in his groove!
    John is not in your band, you’re in his. One of those guys that really showed what could happen if the bass comes out of the background.
    (Hear a good deal of Geddy fills as well)

  • @Goldsteinphoto
    @Goldsteinphoto 9 місяців тому +1

    This is one song from a show staged in a movie studio for filming. That's why the cinematography and sound is so good.
    I am 72 years old and listening to this now brings me back to my teenage years jumping up and down in my bedroom to "I Can See for Miles."
    This performance epitomizes what it is to be a rock star and why we all played air guitar.
    I guess I'm reliving my youth because I still strap on a guitar and jump up and down with Pete and strum along. ..pretty damn influential, eh?

  • @JoachimPaulNE
    @JoachimPaulNE Рік тому +77

    Man, its an Alembic. Brutal sound. Played through a set of Sun Coliseum amps. Entwistle had up to 3000 Watts only in the backline.

    • @jonathanroberts8981
      @jonathanroberts8981 Рік тому +14

      The center pickup, as I recall, is there just to cancel hum - if you look you’ll see it’s set deeper into the body.
      Correct me if I’m wrong.

    • @adelaideloop9732
      @adelaideloop9732 Рік тому +10

      @@jonathanroberts8981 That is correct. The mid pickup is a hum cancelling dummy pickup.

    • @dantesinfernopurgatory7826
      @dantesinfernopurgatory7826 Рік тому +11

      Alembics were considered the Rolls Royce of basses.

    • @timscarrow9151
      @timscarrow9151 Рік тому

      You should see what they want for those now.@@dantesinfernopurgatory7826

    • @alangurneysmall3052
      @alangurneysmall3052 Рік тому +3

      His Alembic basses tended to have the Series 1 electronics

  • @Rawkstar1960
    @Rawkstar1960 Рік тому +2

    I really like your take on this song. I recently started playing bass after trying to fill spots while I sing. Was doing backing guitar but we could fill that spot easier. I never realized how tied in Moon and Entwistle were until I started listening to songs with a bass centric mindset.

  • @chanceroberson7517
    @chanceroberson7517 Рік тому +50

    God this performance is literally perfect. That actual definition of the word. Everything about it is captivating and so inspiring

    • @LowEndUniversity
      @LowEndUniversity  Рік тому +12

      Raw, unfiltered, all-out. If we send one video into space for the aliens to show them "rock n' roll", this might be the one. I just love the production quality for its time.

    • @chanceroberson7517
      @chanceroberson7517 Рік тому +5

      @@LowEndUniversity the production is insanely crisp considering the time. Definitely one of the things that surprised me on the initial listen. Great analysis and reaction

    • @LowEndUniversity
      @LowEndUniversity  Рік тому +5

      Appreciate that, Chance!!

    • @adelaideloop9732
      @adelaideloop9732 Рік тому +3

      Almost perfect. Townshend flubs the rhythm badly coming out of the B bridge. He shakes his head and smiles, and looks at Roger for his reaction.

    • @adelaideloop9732
      @adelaideloop9732 Рік тому +2

      @@LowEndUniversity Almost perfect. Townshend flubs the rhythm badly coming out of the B bridge. He shakes his head and smiles, and looks at Roger for his reaction.

  • @dafterite
    @dafterite Рік тому +6

    It's more humorous than I expected watching some guy try to mimic Entwistle.

  • @ImYourOverlord
    @ImYourOverlord Рік тому +36

    We know who influenced who, and the answer is right there with The Ox. Every bass guitarist since his pioneering approach to the instrument, and to its role in a band context, who rolls the same way was either directly or indirectly influenced by John, and rightly so!

    • @TheDivayenta
      @TheDivayenta Рік тому +2

      He definitely influenced Jonesy.

  • @garethgriffiths1674
    @garethgriffiths1674 Рік тому +3

    Probably the first record by The Who to show off Entwhistle's bass skills was "My Generation" from 1965, when Squire would have been 17 years old and Lee 12 yesrs old.

  • @BSD0614
    @BSD0614 Рік тому +47

    Moon played the breaks rather straight and most often accented the vocals and power chords. As others have commented give “The Real Me” (from their 1973 album Quadrophenia) a listen. The bass lines in that song are the first take…. The FIRST TAKE. Entwistle was mucking about in the studio trying sort out the bass riff for the song and that’s what he developed for it. Absolutely stunning.

    • @photoscottsb
      @photoscottsb Рік тому +4

      If there's one song that captures the quintessential Entwistle and Moon, "The Real Me" is it. The Who is kind of the opposite of how most bands work--the drums and bass are soloing while the guitar holds down the rhythm.

  • @TheDivayenta
    @TheDivayenta Рік тому +2

    The Who and the Kinks were the first punk bands. Listen to the Who in ‘ 65 doing My Generation.
    Their canon is up there with the Beatles , the Stones, Led Zep.
    They wrote the first rock opera- Tommy. Followed by Quadrophenia. And spectacular albums filled with classics. ❤

  • @williethebeerman
    @williethebeerman Рік тому +28

    John said he was not a bassist, he played bass guitar. There is a video where he demonstrated what he meant. He used a lot of treble and distortion. Amazing musician.

    • @Arfursmallpigeon
      @Arfursmallpigeon День тому

      Let's face it he played lead and rhythm bass at the same time!

  • @Parpl22
    @Parpl22 4 місяці тому +2

    This is a top 20 all time classic rock song. How have you never heard this before? Jeez!

  • @julianthesmooshyhusky8976
    @julianthesmooshyhusky8976 Рік тому +38

    Playing along with live at Leeds as a freshman in high school pretty much set the foundation for my bass playing style. I didn’t know “lead bass” was a thing until then.

    • @loosilu
      @loosilu Рік тому +4

      Live at Leeds is one of the best live albums every record. The quality of the sound system has to be heard to be believed.

    • @clank4001
      @clank4001 Рік тому +5

      right with you brother, same

  • @nedludd3641
    @nedludd3641 Рік тому +3

    The Who were huge in the sixties, long before Rush or Yes. They pioneered the use the use of Marshall Amps. 'The Who Live At Leeds' is thought by many to be the best live album of all time. Clapton, Hendrix and Page all worked on some of their albums as session musicians in the early days.

  • @KnightOnBaldMountain
    @KnightOnBaldMountain Рік тому +7

    My best friend in high school took me in 1981 to a midnight showing of The Kids Are Alright. This live performance at Shepperton Studios was filmed for the movie. It was an electrifying experience to see it on the silver screen. I was instantly transformed into a fan of The Who.

  • @mariotribunella9141
    @mariotribunella9141 8 місяців тому +2

    This album was the first use of a synthesizer in rock music. They also were the first band to use lasers in concert. They were pioneers and led the way for many future bands.

    • @senormedia
      @senormedia 3 місяці тому

      no, it wasn't. Beatles and Monkees and probably others came first.

  • @fruitloups
    @fruitloups Рік тому +16

    There's an isolated bass track to this vid. Highly recommended. Also, the entire Quadrophenia album is John Entwistle going off starting with The Real Me. (Which was done on the first take)

  • @robertsaul234
    @robertsaul234 Рік тому +2

    They shot this performance specifically for their documentary "The Kids are Alright". Great Roc doc.

  • @davescurry69
    @davescurry69 Рік тому +40

    Entwistle was definitely the first to play in that style. He was the guv'nor. He would occasionally play with a pick too, but more often with his incredible and revolutionary finger technique.
    And in that outro there he's playing chords. In my humble opinion, John Entwistle is the #1 bassist in rock history. Check out the WHO'S NEXT album, or QUADROPHENIA, or LIVE AT LEEDS for starters.

    • @davescurry69
      @davescurry69 Рік тому

      @drobichaud1000 What? Where the fuck did you get that from? How about you do some proper research before spreading completely false information. Not only is it not true it was also never alleged. By anyone. Ever. Crawl back under the rock you crawled out of.

    • @smythharris2635
      @smythharris2635 Рік тому

      Stanley Clarke?

    • @davescurry69
      @davescurry69 Рік тому +3

      @@smythharris2635 Plays a completely different style. Clarke used that slap and pop technique. Entwistle never slapped. His method was almost like tapping on a typewriter.
      And Entwistle's career began earlier. Plus they were in mostly different genres.

  • @mickfoil
    @mickfoil 10 місяців тому +1

    John Entwistle helped develop the Rotosound bass string, because he wanted a sound that was more like that of a piano than a bass guitar. Also, he loved to crank the treble in his tone. He was one of the first to split his signal into separate bass and treble. Billy Sheehan and Steve Harris were also influenced by John Entwistle

  • @brucejohnson8434
    @brucejohnson8434 Рік тому +3

    I would recommend to check out The Who's 5:15 from their 1996-97 Quadrophenia tour.

  • @d.s.9692
    @d.s.9692 Рік тому +37

    You gotta react to these other Who songs: 1) The Real Me 2) Eminence Front 3) A Quick One While He's Away (the live version from Rock & Roll Circus). Entwistle is so foundational to modern bass playing for so many reasons, not the least of which is that Rotosound made their first set of roundwound bass strings by his specific request.

    • @otispresseau9246
      @otispresseau9246 Рік тому +1

      The Rock-n-Roll Circus is a must!

    • @bassmanpedro1
      @bassmanpedro1 Рік тому +3

      I always used flatwounds until I heard John on My Generation back in '65. That was the sound I wanted and I got some Rotosounds as soon as the local music shop could get them in. We were born on the same day in 1944 but, unfortunately for me, he got all the talent!

    • @davidprice9689
      @davidprice9689 Рік тому

      Rotosound 'Jet Bass' strings made for Jet Harris' Fender Bass VI were round-wound and date back to about 1962

  • @13_13k
    @13_13k 11 місяців тому +2

    I met John Entwistle back in the late 1980s or early 90s we had reserved VIP tables next to each other at The China Club in Hollywood for a sold out comedy show starring the late great Sam Kinnison.
    The Ox (Entwistle) was very cool we spoke briefly a couple times and what a great hilarious show by Kinnison.

  • @ImYourOverlord
    @ImYourOverlord Рік тому +15

    Entwistle favored this EQ on a bass amp: Low at 3:00, Mid around 11:00, High "almost full out" which is between 9 and 10 on the dial (as opposed to clock positions). Presence/Brite engaged (all the way up, if adjustable). He recommended first turning lows on the instrument all the way down, and setting the highs to taste first, then adding the lows until you get a well-balanced tone. Fine tune from there. Monster sound that helps you get the most from your instrument.

  • @SaintedDemon
    @SaintedDemon 9 місяців тому +37

    I'm sorry, but how do you, a bass teacher not know Entwistle preceded and influenced Squire and Lee by at least half a decade?

    • @folioio
      @folioio 3 місяці тому +2

      The bass solo in My Generation was played in 1965. Chris Squire bought his very first bass in 1965. Rush debuted in 1969.

    • @SaintedDemon
      @SaintedDemon 3 місяці тому +2

      @@folioio 1968, actually.
      If you're going to be pedantic, at least get your dates right.

  • @billc.5861
    @billc.5861 Рік тому +57

    John Entwistle is basically considered the best bassist in contemporary music. He literally played lead bass, such a full sound. Since you’re a Warwick artist I’m sure you’re familiar with Angeline Saris. She’s a monster talent and a complete sweetie pie

    • @13_13k
      @13_13k 11 місяців тому +1

      @billc --- It's very nice to hear people who are familiar with Angeline Saris and her talent as a bass player.
      She and I were very close friends for many years while I lived in Marin County, 2001- 20012.
      It's been great watching her progression into a very well respected, and influence in the bass world.
      I'm back living in L.A. again, my home city, and a lot of my friends are famous and or accomplished musicians, always have been, in L.A. and Marin County.
      I don't want to start dropping names. Hahahaha but trust me, you have heard of all of them.

  • @davids.2317
    @davids.2317 10 місяців тому +4

    How can a professional bass teacher not be aware of the ox ??

  • @johnjohn37371
    @johnjohn37371 Рік тому +29

    It's a somewhat silly song, but Boris the Spider features Ox on vocals, with what some refer to as the first use of a death metal growl in the chorus...and his playing, particularly on that and on 905 is awesome...

    • @hermandadams8376
      @hermandadams8376 Рік тому +3

      oh so true to true to be sure

    • @trajan6927
      @trajan6927 Рік тому +3

      Trick Of The Light

    • @bricktopperheadon5490
      @bricktopperheadon5490 7 місяців тому

      The Quiet One! 🙂

    • @ClaireBevan-gm3vf
      @ClaireBevan-gm3vf 7 місяців тому

      Love Boris the spider 🕷️ growing up all spiders were called Boris - yeas my dad was a massive who fan especially John

  • @marvinBrown-y4f
    @marvinBrown-y4f 2 місяці тому +2

    Being a Bass player now 45+ years,I can't believe you never of Mr.Entwhiste...

  • @robertlear2712
    @robertlear2712 Рік тому +17

    I saw The Who in concert in 1970, 1980 and 2019. So I saw this song twice. They are my favorite live band.

  • @Maggooster
    @Maggooster 11 місяців тому +1

    Dude.... I was a child when my older sisters would play The Who. My Generation. Listen to that song. Released in 1965. The solo in that song is a bass solo. Who did that in the 60's? I met a guy that was a roadie for a Who tour. He told me that Entwistle had 32 channels on the mixer for just bass. When they played, Pinball Wizard, Townsend played the acoustic, and Entwistle came in as the distorted guitar on the intro. I think you can hear it on "Live at Leeds". The 32 channels were used for FX and such for the bass. Another interesting fact, Roger Daltry used to play guitar, but because he worked in a sheet metal factory, he cut up his hands so many times that he couldn't play well enough to keep up with it. Loved this band. I've listened to Tommy and Quadrophenia many times. Can any band today produce a rock opera? Please?

  • @mightyV444
    @mightyV444 Рік тому +20

    "What's he doing there?! Come on, cut to the bass!" - There's actually also a video of this same performance which shows only John and has his isolated bass track as audio! 😉👍
    By the way, that Alembic bass has _two_ pick-ups, with a hum-cancelling dummy coil between them 🙂
    Great video too, mate! 😀👍

  • @macronencer
    @macronencer 11 місяців тому +1

    The Charismatic Voice (opera singer reaction channel) had a great way of describing Keith's drumming style. She said it looked like he was sword-fighting all the time, like in a film or something :D She also described John as the older sibling, patiently allowing the other three to muck about while he stood aloof, which was pretty funny to me, as I'm the second child of four...

  • @MaskedRiderChris
    @MaskedRiderChris Рік тому +52

    The bass is an Alembic Spoiler with seriously hardcore active electronics, especially for the time. Entwistle was a pioneer who was on the vanguard of bass gear and sound; in fact, we owe roundwound strings to his work with the James How company and Rotosound. He pioneered biamping as well, using guitar amps for the high end and gain. Also, his background in playing piano and French horn influenced his approach to the bass, and we also owe their manager in the 60's, Kit Lambert, a debt for telling John at rehearsal "It's well and good you're playing all those notes, but I can't hear what you're playing! Try turning up the treble?" Between that and John really liking Duane Eddy's signature twangy guitar sound, that's how a legend was born. I'm sure I'm missing a couple of details, there, but that's the gist of it.

    • @batterytestchannel-v4v
      @batterytestchannel-v4v Рік тому +8

      The bass is actually an Alembic Spyder - note the sterling silver spider web inlays. As noted elsewhere, a play on Boris the Spider.

    • @MaskedRiderChris
      @MaskedRiderChris Рік тому +1

      @@batterytestchannel-v4v Ah, you're right, too!

    • @keithlegge6848
      @keithlegge6848 Рік тому +1

      @@MaskedRiderChris the bass was old at auction after John died. Fetched about £3,000..00 very cheap for what it is.

    • @loosilu
      @loosilu Рік тому +1

      @@keithlegge6848 They should hve waited longer to sell them. I think he may have had debts when he died so they didn't waste time.

    • @keithlegge6848
      @keithlegge6848 Рік тому +1

      @@loosilu You are correct he did in fact have a tax liability. The UK tax authorities do not like to be kept from their money and that is why some of his possessions were auctioned.

  • @matthewconstantine5015
    @matthewconstantine5015 Рік тому +2

    I love that you've got these three showboaters all acting like maniacs and Entwistle just standing there, all chill and groovy, playing away like nothin's nothin.'

  • @wrobinson1702
    @wrobinson1702 Рік тому +35

    The Who pre-dated Rush and Yes by quite a bit. They got together as a band in 1964, and had their 1st hit, "Can't Explain" in 1965. Yes evolved into their definitive lineup in 1971, while Rush did not reach their definitive lineup until 1974.

    • @freespyrit
      @freespyrit Рік тому +3

      What Do You mean by definitive lineup in '71?

    • @trajan6927
      @trajan6927 Рік тому

      The Mighty Who in some form or another started in 1960. High Numbers, The Who, The Detours and finally The Who again. 1964 is the final line up when Moonie joined. The rest is history.

    • @trajan6927
      @trajan6927 8 місяців тому

      Moonie joined in 1964 and that completed The Who that we know and love. Actually The Who, The High Numbers, and The Detours from 1960 to 1964, all predated the 1964 Who line up with Moonie.

  • @egads69
    @egads69 Рік тому +39

    Three words - LIVE AT LEEDS. It's not only the best Who live album, it's the best live album ever.

  • @jonathanschadenfreude9603
    @jonathanschadenfreude9603 2 дні тому

    Recently was listening to old music i had and came across the band LIVE pain lies across the riverside....their bassist gives me goosebumps when i hear him play!

  • @dingleberryhandpump802
    @dingleberryhandpump802 Рік тому +17

    The Ox is a legend. I love his fills and additions into Pete's riffs. I'd love to see you react to and dissect their song The Real Me. That one's a real treat for bassists.

  • @mustangmikep51
    @mustangmikep51 Рік тому +2

    can you see the real me? if your a bass player...this song will BLOW YOU AWAY!!

  • @davescurry69
    @davescurry69 Рік тому +14

    There's a couple of great live clips that are well worth checking out too: "Young Man Blues" and "Water" from the 1970 Isle Of Wight festival, and to get an example of some live early Who, check out "So Sad About Us" from the Marquee Club" from 1966. And a couple of studio gems: "Melancholia" from 1968, which must be one of the earliest examples of that galloping bass rhythm, if not the first; "Getting In Tune" from the as-close-to-perfect-as-rock-album-can-get WHO'S NEXT album; their incredible live performance of "A Quick One While He's Away" which blew the Stones off their own stage in late 1968.

  • @CasualShootersPodcast
    @CasualShootersPodcast 10 місяців тому +2

    As others have said, there are 4 leads in this band. Pete is an absolute musical genius to write these songs and music. The four of them are magical. There is no band better than the sum of the four in this band.

  • @TheTruth-pl3mk
    @TheTruth-pl3mk Рік тому +16

    Ok, I'm sure you've been told many times since you posted this video. But Entwistle is THE one who inspired your heroes Geddy Lee, Chris Squire and hundreds more. All this talk of "spawning" around the same time is a moot point; The Who were around while Lee and Squire were still in school and Entwistle was doing this kind of progressive bass playing in the early 1960s, never mind 1978.

  • @muskyman1018
    @muskyman1018 Рік тому

    I’m quite amazed at the quality of that 1978 recording, probably the most high end equipment money could buy you. Cool that it exists.

  • @tonygriffin_
    @tonygriffin_ Рік тому +17

    Saw them live in 1975 on their 'Who put the boot in' tour of football stadiums. This song should be played on a loop for 24 hours before any election!

  • @stevenrobinson2381
    @stevenrobinson2381 Рік тому +1

    DUDE. Really. I was 17 when that flick came out-and I STILL get goose bumps hearing & seeing it. When the Bloody 'Oo was on-as they were there at Shepperton-the energy present could power a medium sized city-FOR A WEEK. It HAS to be played as LOUD as possible ! As stated earlier-the maker of the film-guy by the name of Jeff Stein-full blown Who freak-remastered it in the 2000's to include several out takes-including what he called "Ox Cam"-the cam that was assigned to John. You need to watch it. It will blow your socks off.

  • @RDog4484
    @RDog4484 Рік тому +19

    Definitely check out the isolated bass from this performance!

  • @jhunt4761
    @jhunt4761 9 місяців тому +1

    You need to check out "My Generation" by The Who for some classic John Entwistle. Thanks for the videos and deep dives.

  • @saskafarian
    @saskafarian Рік тому +15

    Alembic made that bass to John's spec. The spiderweb inlays are sterling silver, homage to Boris the Spider, the first Who single he wrote and sang. Pretty sure he's wearing the black glass spider pendant here. The Ox had style.

  • @jfg1356
    @jfg1356 11 місяців тому +1

    rare is the musician who can't appreciate the innovative attack each member of The Who brought to their music - keep going! lots of different tunes to get into with this super influential group

  • @gordonwalley1116
    @gordonwalley1116 Рік тому +7

    Dude as a bassist since the 80's and a watcher on YT of most things bass, you are actually KILLING this space and far better imo than anything else. I really appreciate all of the effort you put into these videos! CHEERS!

    • @gordonwalley1116
      @gordonwalley1116 Рік тому +1

      Additionally, You Sir are a MONSTER BASSIST as well imo. You have def put the work in and THANK YOU for that!

    • @gordonwalley1116
      @gordonwalley1116 Рік тому +1

      YES PLEASE DO GENESIS! As surprised as I was The WHo was new to you, early Genesis was new to me up until about two weeks ago. I took the deep dive and glad I did. You will be to.

  • @lesweiss4273
    @lesweiss4273 11 місяців тому

    Not sure if it’s true, but if it is, one of the biggest influences Entwistle and Squire had on bass was helping develope Rotosound Swing bass strings. Patterned after a piano string, they moved the sound of bass out of the muffled low end sound. Thanks guys, I have used them ever since.

  • @Salguine
    @Salguine Рік тому +5

    The bass was custom made for him by Alembic. There's a clip floating around on UA-cam of this performance with Entwistle's bass track isolated. It's worth searching out.

  • @douglasstrother6584
    @douglasstrother6584 11 місяців тому +2

    John Entwistle and John Paul Jones are my two favorite bassists.

  • @jamess3150
    @jamess3150 Рік тому +8

    There's a great video of The Real Me live at Royal Albert Hall that really shows Entwistle playing

  • @JVTrickypants
    @JVTrickypants Рік тому +2

    5:15 is the best example to me of his brilliance, especially the live version with the solo.

  • @SteveJohnsGuitar
    @SteveJohnsGuitar Рік тому +9

    I grew up with this music. The Who was the first band to crank up the gain, volume, and feedback and use it in the music. Entwistle was an innovator doing things on the bass and bringing it to the forefront, with the song My Generation.

  • @ursgeiser6570
    @ursgeiser6570 Рік тому +2

    The Who filmed this show for the film The Kids Are All Right and also played the fantastic BABA O'RILEY with the fantastic harmonica ending live. Both songs come from the best WHO rock album WHO'S NEXT (along with the two concept albums and Live At Leeds), which also includes the ballad BEHIND BLUE EYES. This song became a worldwide hit in 2004 by Limp Bizkit (maybe you know it); but the original....❤ . Keep doing it great👍.
    Addendum: this short laser show in 1971 was unique, even revolutionary, also the use of A.R.P. Synthesizer.

  • @tommonk7651
    @tommonk7651 Рік тому +35

    A couple of things...Entwistle was the only one in the Who with real music education. He was a trained trumpet player. His incredible ability to fill out the song gave Townsend the freedom to not have to play rhythm so much. Also, when the Who was in their early stages, they were playing a show with a different drummer. Moon was in the audience, and in keeping with his personality he told them their drummer sucked. The guys cynically asked him if he wanted to sit in. Moon started playing, and Daltrey said it felt like a jet engine was behind him, and The Who had a new drummer.

    • @JoneyJefe
      @JoneyJefe Рік тому +1

      Coincidentally Mark is an accomplished trumpet player also

    • @tommonk7651
      @tommonk7651 Рік тому +1

      @@JoneyJefe Cool. I think Flea was a trumpet player as well.

    • @TyeDyeGuyRV
      @TyeDyeGuyRV Рік тому +2

      Not just trumpet, The Ox could play the entire brass section, Quadrophenia is filled with it!

    • @ericmalone3213
      @ericmalone3213 Рік тому +3

      ".Entwistle was the only one in the Who with real music education." Not accurate. Townshend's parents were professional musicians, & he knew his music theory. Keith Moon took lessons with Carlo Little.

    • @tommonk7651
      @tommonk7651 Рік тому +1

      @@ericmalone3213 Just because Townshend's dad was a saxophonist and his mother was a singer does not mean he was a trained musician. Though his father taught him a couple of chords, Townshend was largely self-taught on the instrument and never learned to read music. Lacking the requisite grades to attend university, Pete was faced with the decision of art school, music school, or getting a job. He ultimately chose to study graphic design at Ealing Art College, enrolling in 1961. At Ealing, Townshend studied alongside future Rolling Stones guitarist Ronnie Wood. Townshend dropped out in 1964 to focus on music full-time. And yes, Moon took lessons, but no one taught him to play the way he did. And he didn't know anything about chords or music theory. Neither had music education to any degree....

  • @janlis001
    @janlis001 Рік тому +1

    John was always the best bass-player of the world!!!!...And always will be!!

  • @wadebarton4111
    @wadebarton4111 Рік тому +21

    To this day, I have yet to see a band live that's better than The Who with Moon. You absolutely need to check out more. They started in the early 60s along with the Stones and Beatles, so yeah, they influenced a lot of bands. Moon was Peart's idol.

    • @willstacey5847
      @willstacey5847 Рік тому +1

      Absolutely agree - I saw most of the major bands of the 'seventies but The Who were by far and away the most exciting both for their stage presence and the depth of their catalogue - everything from the singles through the Tommy/Quadrophenia material to the major tracks from Who's Next was pure class.

    • @allabouttheU1662
      @allabouttheU1662 Рік тому

      Ever hear of Led Zeppelin?

    • @wadebarton4111
      @wadebarton4111 Рік тому +5

      @davidcollins8529 yes. Not even close to The Who live. They were inconsistent and Page was often sloppy.

    • @H0kieJoe
      @H0kieJoe Рік тому +2

      @@allabouttheU1662 The Stones and Zep were blues rock inspired. Both phenomenal bands. However, the Who are the most unique band to come out of Britain in that era; and they're my favorite of the three.

    • @jakemore2024
      @jakemore2024 3 місяці тому

      @@wadebarton4111of course loved Bonham and Jones..but not as fun to watch

  • @easycyber42
    @easycyber42 Рік тому +1

    Entwistle had the first recorded bass solo (on My Generation) and led the way for so many. He kept the beat and the rhythm so that Moon and Townshend could go and do their thing. Phenomenal bassist. His style is often likened to flamenco strumming…

  • @alanmarsh3039
    @alanmarsh3039 Рік тому +5

    Pete Townsend said he derived great confidence as a guitarist hearing the full, rich sound of Entwistle’s bass coming from the other side of the stage.

  • @jamesmichaelfrank
    @jamesmichaelfrank 4 місяці тому +1

    John Entwistle played a lot of open string first position stuff because it makes the notes sounds so crisp and bright like a Steinway Grand piano.

  • @JoneyJefe
    @JoneyJefe Рік тому +6

    Great bassist! I had no idea how good he was until I saw the bass play through of this song.

  • @TheRyguy79
    @TheRyguy79 Рік тому

    I literally get tingles every time I watch this footage when they come back in after the laser show.

  • @johnpeek2122
    @johnpeek2122 Рік тому +9

    I saw The Who in 1975 at the Dane County Colosseum in Madison, WI. They played for over 3 hours and their encore was Magic Bus. It was one of the best shows I’ve ever seen 🎸🤘

    • @CasualShootersPodcast
      @CasualShootersPodcast 10 місяців тому

      OMG what an ending that had to be. If they ever invent a time machine, I will use it to go back and watch The Who.

  • @Jeff-o-Lee
    @Jeff-o-Lee Рік тому

    Alembic Series 2 Explorer. It has 2 working pickups. The center pickup is a dummy pickup because Alembic pickups in their Series 1 & 2 are single coil soap bars.
    Edited..... Alembic was the first boutique bass company & the the first to design active electronics pickups & electronics. Instead of bass, mids & treble preamp, Alembic uses high pass filters like the WAL bass. Their Series 1 & 2 has a power supply to make the bass active & stereo with a 5 pin cable along with 18v batteries. New, they run for & $25K & up. Newsted (spelling?) used a black one before Sadowski.
    Another long time Alembic user is Stanley Clarke.

  • @l.rongardner2150
    @l.rongardner2150 Рік тому +7

    I attended dozens upon dozens of concerts in the 70s, and saw lots of the big-name groups, and the Who is the best live band I've ever seen.

  • @norcalkatonk7875
    @norcalkatonk7875 11 місяців тому +1

    The first time I heard John Entwistle’s genius was in “My Generation”, which was way back in 1965. Nobody was doing those lead-like bass fills then. This was came much before the Who’s Next album.

  • @alexguitarwatson3215
    @alexguitarwatson3215 Рік тому +11

    You started off with the BEST footage from The Who, IMHO. What an epic performance. I watched this clip probably 100 times ... The quality of the video and audio is unbelievable, like it was recorded a week ago 🙂

    • @CasualShootersPodcast
      @CasualShootersPodcast 10 місяців тому +2

      I am giving you a thumbs up but I'm not sure I agree 100%. So many epic live performances. A Quick One for Rock n Roll Circus is every bit as epic as this, maybe more.

  • @michaelsmeltz2363
    @michaelsmeltz2363 8 місяців тому

    Great reaction to an epic live performance. Growing up, I was kind of like you. My niche was Prog, and the groups I listened to included Yes, Genesis, Rush, King Crimson and Pink Floyd. And The Who was the favorite group of my best friend (which meant I heard a lot of their music, even if it wasn’t one of my go to groups) I played bass, and of course was familiar with Entwistle’s amazing talent, so this reaction really resonates.

  • @SCOTTEDWARDS111
    @SCOTTEDWARDS111 Рік тому +5

    I was just like you about not knowing all about the Who. In my first band, we did play My Generation. I was more about Chris Squire and Geddy Lee. Loved your video!

  • @Morbid0007
    @Morbid0007 Рік тому +1

    Check out 'My Generation;' it features one of the earliest bass solo/breaks ever recorded.

  • @guzziguy2011
    @guzziguy2011 Рік тому +8

    The Who are one of my all time favorite bands. My top 5 in no order ever: The Who, Tool, Zeppelin, Primus and Soundgarden (with a big nod to Temple of the Dog). Quadrophenia is a magical LP. Can listen to Entwhistle and Moon all day!

  • @nickthevanman9011
    @nickthevanman9011 10 місяців тому

    Entwistle began playing fender p basses, Rickenbackers etc but went to Alembic. At first similar models to Stanley Clarke, then taking on the "spider bass" which you see here with the arrow headstock, he also played a spider with a forked headstock (similar to a dean v headstock) and a alembic V for a short time. But the necks were so inconsistent with climate and international travel, he had to have action ultra low for his technique and it made it a real fight to keep an instrument playable so he began using graphite necks, and then went to Warwick shortly after and his buzzards had graphite necks, he also played buzzards built by Modulus. He helped develop, and used rotosound swing bass 45-105s for a long time until going to pyramid gold strings. He used a fresh set of strings before every performance to retain the "Piano sound". John Entwistle changed the face of the instrument, and he was truly a "bass guitarist"...not a "bass player" he was insistent on that. And I think he accomplished that. The most profound thing he ever said in an interview was " I wanted to change the face of bass guitar..... To be uncopyable".

  • @chadgnagy1574
    @chadgnagy1574 Рік тому +5

    There is a solo u have to check out. From a tour they took Ringo's son as their drummer.

  • @patrickhughes4914
    @patrickhughes4914 9 місяців тому +1

    He played the bass like it was a lead and rhythm guitar. He filled in all the sound and gave Pete a lot of freedom to do whatever he wanted without leaving gaps in the sound

  • @ronniebrucehalford8396
    @ronniebrucehalford8396 Рік тому +5

    Yes, The Real Me should be the song to check out. But My Generation had what the first bass solo in rock? For me, I’d suggest “A Quick One While He’s Away” (The Rolling Stones Rock and Roll Circus live version) which is one of the best live performances ever captured