How to spot FAKE fighters
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- Опубліковано 24 вер 2023
- Spotting a pump fake is incredibly impactful in Rise of Kingdoms in KvK 2, KvK 3, and Season of Conquest. Like in Call of Dragons, Age of Empires, and other Real Time Strategy titles, new upgrades are crucial for late game and high powered play. F2P, Low Spender, and Mid Spender should all have good access to the optimal and best builds.
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I have to disagree on the Killpoints for fighters. We had shitty commanders back then, no equipment and no armaments. Generating kills was hard af. Players like Baba did 7-10bil KP in each of the last 3 kvks. So let's say they have 50bil. 50bil minus 30bil is 20bil for the other 10 kvks. The difference for mid spenders, f2p and low spenders is even bigger. + the kvk formats HA and LvD had little fights. Big spenders probably have round 6-8bil kp now if they haven't been playing in imperiums where you can farm kills easier due to longer lasting fights and stable balls/decent garrison&rally.
My point is, you should only consider kvks since December 2022. (If you're recruiting)
And,back in a day you took so many dead but no KP in a garrison situation..now its more balanced,but it wasnt always the case
I think when we talk about older kvks to newer kvks there is an expectation of scaling.
So when I spitball 300M kp per or around 15M T5 kills, I’m not expecting that all of the first kvks we’re going to be contested and huge fighting, but I am expecting an old account to scale up and get many more kp coming into 2022-2023 and be able to average more around the account lifecycle I think
Again 300M per KvK is more a spitballing number not an exact science, and I think it’s a good frame of reference for players just trying to surmising a player
For recruitment I think the numbers are generally lower, but for me listening to another player over other players I generally listen to, I would need to see a lot of things tbh
This dude describing me the whole video :/
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1st time viewer, im now committed.
Your shit is legit !
I know a guy who went by dark Hassan in 1960 he migrated to kvk 2 I fact checked and he was a top 15 fighter there and had many vouches it happens but it’s rare 🤷♂️
Certainly like 1 in 10000 honestly hahaha
Yo, that slick back earned a like alone, let alone the content. Absolute FUEGO Bro
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Had a ‘super experienced’ high power kvk2 cross season illegal migrant ask me what aoo is and how it works :D
So i found myself in one of these wonky situations, where i started my account a while back and landed myself in kd 2056. I had started shortly before kvk 1, played through, did awful, because i hadnt wrapped my head around the game yet. But anyhow, half way through offseason to kvk2, i stopped playing for a long time, life happened, etc. About 2 yrs later, i decided to return to game, but chose to take it a little more serious. WHAT A CATCH UP 😂😂😂😂 but i stuck with it, played a soc, didnt do so hot my first kvk back, but by the second, i had 2 really solid marches with decent equipment, got t5, vip14, did light years better than my first kvk back. Im still working on kp, but they've come up over this last kvk, getting ready to play my 3rd in the next month. Now i have 3 marches, about to crack vip 15, much better equipment, etc. My point is, a comeback is definitely possible if you can find a good kingdom to rock with you, but its definitely a project. Ive enjoyed it, and i enjoy playing with the folks that ive been playing with. This probably wasnt very relevant to this video, but its my story. Long live RoK 💪💪
Your take on 6 digit id in some cases may be wrong.There is plenty of people thats just returned to game.I personally see people who now returned after 1.5year break. I mayself have 3 dead acc,old,55m,with no meta comanders,just because i dont play them.Only collect gold heads.
agreed
I think that was my take though, that the old accounts of people who quit is a red flag and should be taken into consideration
Plenty of people quit or stop playing for different reasons but I’m talking about people who are giving credentials. So It’s a personal affront to their character, but I would consider it a red flag, just like a job will see a large gap in work history as ares flag.
He is referring to accounts that go dormant for a year and a half instead of what you were talking about; giving the login details to someone who keeps the account active@@12inchpvpness
I started in 1016 Legend Rhony/Drago kingdom :) , jumped to 1096 had few civil wars , reorganized kingdom , played in first ever AoC semifinals Royalz96 , lost kvk 1 against Misfit Lion King 1093 :) .. Migrated to pure Korean kingdom .. migrated again to Phoo kingdom .. Sold my account before crypto bull :)))++++$++++ I started again from zero kingdom 2431 now im in 2064 .. Im more then red flag .. xD I have soo much history in this game when i look on this such a funn times , dont plan to stop .. GG & HF
There are many who have a life not having to stare at the monitor screen all day long and be available for KVKs all the time.
Some KVKs fights happen to start on 3am in the morning, sorry to say, we are not going to sacrifice for a game.
I think that’s totally fine, I just don’t think the players that aren’t going above and beyond should be guiding and advising newer players or claiming that they have more knowledge than they do
One thing that is 100% absolutely true is that Imperium does not equal more skilled. sure, there are absolutely extremely skilled imperiums (no one does territory better than 93 for example), but a ton of imperiums dont actually need to be good at things like territory or strategy because they just brute force everything.
i've played a kvk against 2489 and they are definitely in the brute force category of imperiums rather than the skilled imperiums.
they won our kvk extremely easily cos they were up against a bunch of A and B seeds but ultimately they were easier to get kills off in the field cos they had poor coordination, their teritory was largely random and arbitrary (big reason why they threw your kvk), and we caught more of them off territory than any of our A-B seed opponents.
I dont agree with there not being any reason to go back to kvk 2, it can just be nice to take a break for 2 kvks from crystal spending while still continuing to play the game actively (f2p should certainly never do it though, they cant afford the passports).
PS: if a capital F Fighter is getting 300mil kp in a kvk, they are completely dead weight. Maybe they make the cut in some lower seeds if theyre under like, 65-70 mil, but they don't in any kvk focused fighting kingdom.
i thought our kd had decent strategists until we partnered up with 93. dang dem boys got the big brains, couldn't have won kvk without their help.
There’s a kingdom in my B seed kvk 2 with two 60GT players with 13B and 18B kp. Is this an exception?
If they didn’t purchase their accounts they totally could be
keep up the good vids 12!
Hello hello, Unique as always, thanks for the insight!
What's your take on a guy supposedly beating your t5 record as f2p?
He beat it, its real!
@@12inchpvpness that's truly unfortunate but you'll always be the F2P GOD to us ❤️
talked about it a bit im our alliance. we came to the conclusion that you could probably do it in like 65-75 days in a high spend imperium alliance if someone fronts you the rss (or you make a ton of farms), but there's no real reason to do it in an older kd.
great vid as always, commenting for algorithm boost lmao
lots of stray bullet hitting me
Good stuff bro!
We had a guy wanting to migrate to us, telling us he is a real fighter and not afraid to lose troops: old account, 600m kp, 800k deads... Yeahhhh sure bro 😅
Question so how much KP would u want a f2p to have going into first soc?
First few KvKs are so variable since it’s such a landslide for some, I’d say at least 200M looking for maybe 250-300M to look to be a little better in shape
It should be about 300-600m kp
I don’t think that t4 kills thing is accurate.
Yes most of the time a lot of t4 kills is bad but.. if you are even a mid spender from kvk1-3 you should be getting out of kvk3 with 1B kp and those are gonna be 90% t4. After that, for all the old players, there has always been the constant “tricks” to get better trades. Wether when they abused t1s for easy hospital or when everybody played t4 because gold was too expensive or a civil war or zeroing a lot of cities, etc.
I would say some do, but come SOC majority of the field is going to be T5, going back to early kvks will give you more T4 and the T4/T5 kp ratio is often looked at in my experience tbh
@@12inchpvpness yea for most people that’s true. But for example in my case, I have never ever ever traded t1 yet I have like 25mil t1 kills.
Those came from 2 places:
1. Zeroing cities.
2. Back in the day, they used to come at us with t1 marches where they would lose basically no rss and it takes them 3s to heal full hospital. Especially those artemesias and pakal/haralds
have not watched the video yet, but honestly, all i wanted is to never have played for one month in 2020 which resulted in my id being considerably old while i've played for 400 days "only". Of course i have screenshots and stuff proving it but it's not the same lol
at least the new lost kingdom thing in profile shows the average per kvk
at least i passed all the stuff you said tho
Is boudica prime still a better investment then zhuge liang since her skill damage taken reduction doesn’t work against smite damage?
she's never been a better investment than zhuge
@@TJMiton she was a better first investment because of her extra skill damage taken skill and that's better in a murderball. But now with Liu Che... he won't deal extra damage and boudica won't take less skill damage from him so now I don't know if Boudica's a better investment.
@@altaimetin8686 no universe has boudica ever been better in a murderball than zhuge. anyone saying this is selling boudica stock or is just flat out wrong.
@@TJMiton take a look at the video of 12inchpvpness about soc he says that boudica is a better first investment because of her increased skill damage taken
@@altaimetin8686 ok and? 12inch is litterally selling something (account coaching), AND flat out wrong in that instance.
That was a great video 🎉
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what is bro yapping about
What should my first infantry march be in kvk3
Scipio + Aeth/Mehmed/YSG are all fine options
How to gatekeep, RoK style.
I mean im just a f2p idk i cant get as much as spenders
Hey 12
I have more power and KP than you. I will advice you to max Charlemagne and Mocte.
Thanks
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Honestly who gives af about fighting in these games now when open field battles result in no actual death or consequences? Back in the day, if you fought in these kingdom builder games, you were losing troops, winning or getting 0'd. there was no leeway.
These games, while retaining the whale mechanics, have become actually very casual.
This plays a lot more like an RTS with not having instant rallies and being able to counter rally efficiently. The field and controlling how the deaths are spread are just much more important than in other games.
I think the flexibility of this game actually lends it to be much more competitive than a core simulator like GoW but that's just me I suppose.
@12inchpvpness All im syain is look at troops lost along with troops defeated, and youll find who your actual real fighters are.
I dont know what GoW is, but the last game i played that i think you're talking about was called Mobile Royale. You could counter defend your city, and troop composition mattered heavily. A f2p player could defend against a whale by knowing optimal armies etc.
Smaller alliances could also stay lowkey until a big war broke out, and actually help by counter rotating attacks on defenseless cities due to the enemy attacking etc.
In these newer games, having troops almost feels pointless and unnecessary. No one ever attacks actual cities outside of KvK, and no one reinforces towers lol.
I dunno man, just feels casual to me. Its still fun to progress, but i think its straight up lizard brain clapping at numbers going up.
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Go back to kvk2 to merge accounts
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300 m kp per kvk? I’d rather spend on a few dinners out with my girl..priorities. Guess it depends on your lvl of commitment. And I’m older..don’t waste away in that chair bud lol😂
300m kp is really low.. Like our f2p players make that mark easily. 😅
@@Panguz I find that hard to believe..unless they are feeding t1 and mostly t4..otherwise they are spending.
That’s kind of a funny comment if you watch the stream haha
Again I’ve got nothing against people who play more casually but the video is more about people who will claim to be in a position of authority to tell you how play well or how to lead
To be honest I kind of want these people no lifing and glued to the chair if I’m going to base hundreds of hours of my time or I’m a spender potentially thousands of dollars on their advice
300m kp is not low for f2p, not impossible, but definitely not a walk in the park. It also depends very much on what level of kingdom youre in, i.e., what kind of opponents youre facing. 2489 vs. 1960 - getting 1bil kp was about 10-15b rss during the first zone fighting@@Panguz
The guy says 300 m kp are easy, most kvks end before they start as either opponent decide to stop fighting or our Allie’s ditch fighting so we have to stop fighting. In summary kp of 100 m is a great achievement per kvk
I appreciate your opinion and content but your experience is purely anecdotal. There is no “exact” way to play this game. Not being disrespectful but didn’t you rage quit this game already?
I suppose everyone’s idea of a fighter is anecdotal, I’m a 3.5B fighter in an imp being a native of 2500
There should be some guidelines for the few people that claim to be the best, feels relevant that I give my opinion
Seems like you take the game way to seriously
Well if people are going to base 100s of hours or perhaps 1000s of dollars on the advice of someone, they should probably take advice from someone who takes the game seriously right :)
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You didn’t have to make a video just to expose me 🥲