How I Found My Drum Sound
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- I have a rather oddball mix of "normal" and science equipment I use to process everything, but especially my humble Roland TR-606. In this video I show you the gear and how I use it, and the reasoning behind all this "Aufwand", this slightly outsized undertaking.
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"It's like playing Legos on the carpet" takes me right back to 1956, the first time I ever saw Lego blocks. A friend had received them as a Christmas gift, and together we constructed a small neighborhood of houses on his living room floor. The joy of playing at building something be it a wooden cabinet or an ambient track still holds my interest at age 75. Thank you for doing what you do, Hainbach. You always inspire!
As someone who worked in the audio test industry in the past, it's great to see these lab equipments being given musical treatments instead of boring test tones. :)
There, towards the end of the video, I really connected so much with what you said about the satisfaction that you get from shaping a sound for yourself, rather than picking from a bunch of presets. I totally relate with that, but hadn’t really thought about it very consciously in that way before.
men will literally do this to make a snare sound instead of going to therapy
Speaking of Dials - I've been putting it on SO many tracks at just like 10% mix or so, it has such a lovely compression that brings just a touch of life to my sound. I have been LOVING it!
Hi, I really appreciate these videos where you go over your musical process and techniques. I enjoy these videos more than the ones you do reviews of some really rare or insanely expensive gear.
Yeah I know you showcase lots of super rare gear in this video too, but the intention is showcase what you are looking for when it comes to sound design.
Exactly, the whole interesting part of the video is for me more the way to find a good process for making rhythms. The tools are just there.
One thing I love to do is route signals from effect pedals in parallel through my Genrad 1564a bandpass filter. The narrow band of the filter can only grab onto and amplify certain bits of the signal so it turns into an instant etherial harmonizer when mixed just right!
Oh that is something I have to try!
Like any artist in any medium finding one’s own voice is the quest.
The madness of Hainbach... just joking possibly more eccentric than mad!
I always enjoy your "process" videos. I would imagine that "most" scientific test equipment would have decent power and shielding but I often wonder what a map of the EM emanations in your studio would look like.
"The Voice of America" by The Cabs has some of the most amazing simplistic drum sounds.
2:50 such a cool sound. Thank you for sharing these intimate details of your recording process. It's a real treat to see how things are created when someone is truly passionate about the craft
that germanium preamp is out of this world, I want it bad :D
Thank you S. Finally I understood the basic concept behind your awesome work.
It's so fun seeing all these obscure devices come together to make such interesting sounds! Thanks again Hainbach for glimpses into your creative process and sources. Looking forward to the next one!!
Hainbach, you are the man. It's funny because I just got a Roland TR-8S, and the very first thing I wanted to do with it was to upload my own sample, from an OP-1 I no longer own, and add it to a beat I was making. It's just so true what you say: when you create your own sounds and samples and processes, it's just all that much more fun. Thank you for sharing your process with us.
When I make my drum sounds, I'm doing them entirely in software using synthesizers. I tend to use Ableton's operator for kicks, snares, hats. I tend to be very minimalist. After hearing the subtle variation added by random filter tweaks and reactive, living test equipment in your video - I'm realizing that I might want to do more with my sounds. Thanks for the inspiration!
Bringing the notion of "analog" to incredible heights.
This is precisely how Mick Gordon describes the creative process behind creating the Doom soundtrack in his famous GDC talk.
Wow, that spectrum analyser! That's an instrument in its own right.
Your talk at the end about the organic and exploratory nature of your sound design is exactly what got me into synthesizer music in the first place. Using a machine to create something that sounds like a real instrument is fine and good - but the real wonder comes from exploring sounds you can't hear anywhere else.
You don't get the layers of noise, distortion, delay, reverb, EQ etc with presets or samples; this kind of texture and depth comes from the machine spirit itself, carefully curated by a master's ear.
your videos and the plug ins you made, got me to trying to start developing my own little voice. such a satisfying pleasure.
Thank you Hainbach.
Hainbach in his element, this beautiful one shot to drums with a trusty 606 and an array of vintage single function signal processing. 😶🌫💢💥💭👀
your use of test equipment is sooo cool
Hi Hain beck !! I really admire what you do sound. Thanks for sharing.
Amazing video! Like always ❤️ Keep up your great work 🔊🎶🎵
Shortly after you released assertion i realized I needed a 606 in my life. It’s the drum machine I have always enjoyed the sound of the most. Although I cheaped out and snagged the evil “b” knock off 606… it’s close enough for me and was nicer on my wallet at the time. However after playing with it for a while I thought to add my old moog murf to the hats out and delay on the snare out and I can’t remember what else but it totally changed the the vibe and made it so much better! At least to me. Totally agree that creating your own sound signature spices things up!
The MURF! That must just sound magical on the Cymbals. I need to get mine fixed, I fried it with test equipment in the early days.
You might also enjoy the Acidlab Drumatix. It's sort of somewhat like the modified 608. But two kick drums, one more traditional 606, the other more 808 BOOM, then also a cool clap sound too. Agree with you on the 606, they're my favourite hat sounds too. And I think the Drumatix might be my favourite drum machine. The original MFB Tanzbar maybe second. Jomox XBase, and MFB Tanzmaus is cool too.
3:29 and my cats had the most astonished look on their faces!
Your drum rhythms tend to be entirely funkless to me, and i mean that in a neutral way. I do think that contributes to your sound a lot, especially with the 606. It's danceable in the same way a big metal machine is when it happens to be making a rhythmic sound
His drums remind me a lot of those of über Normal-Null.
It's both a German thing and a Hainbach thing I think. He makes funklessness funky.
Wow... I've been looking for a good way to get "old school radio tuning" sounds for years.... that HP Spectrum Analyser is the best I've heard.
I love distorting drums!😍
I think autofilters are the best way to add movement and organic feeling to them!
But offcourse crash them into drive and distortion gives the flavour✌🏻✨✨✨
Amazing video!
Love
Apeexp
0:52....that is the best synthesized fart EVER haha
The 'Caution, Major Difference!' sticker on that pre-amp! XD wahahaha
dude....you have the best processing setup in my humble opinion, wOw.
Those bassdrums are so damn mean brother holy SH**
hHP unit analyser sounds a lot like the emulation in Filter jam. Or rather the other wise if my guess is correct. I m sure you should have a video about it. And what about that lock in amp? I recognise that in my Dials, I mean yours 😀. Amazing. thanks a lot man for all that, man
I was right. I write as I watch
awesome as always.
04:25. Oh yeah, my friend. Oh, yeah.
Totally on board with this, it took me about 20mins to get bored scrolling through my first ever sample CD. I then spent a while just processing stuff I recorded myself with editors on the PC, applying layers and layers of effects, something I still do, though nowadays I have a few items of hardware I plug into each other, all bargain basement stuff though.
How do you make your drums sound like they've been crushed through some nuclear submarine equipment? Well, you build a nuclear submarine, and hey presto! Kidding aside, running some drums through any random finnicky old hardware at abusive levels and mixing it in parralel is a great way to get some character in a sound. Doesn't need to be a rare expensive piece of science-tubery to get good results.
University of Arizona Surplus!
Really like the small artifacts that comes with that test equipment, the only thing that comes near within my own setup are the Lyra-8 and Sherman Filterbank. They both aren’t clean/silent and do magical things to my TR-8S. I checked out the demo of Dials and must say that the pre-amp enhances the sound in a way I cannot achieve yet with my current VST’s. Also like the filters but prefer no markings at all. When they’re not accurate, to me personally it distracts and feels more like a gimmick.
2:45 RAPPERS WE CRUSH!
(Sorry, just couldn't resist)
you can use a 12 bit sampler instead of 606 then you can use any drum sound you like then you have unlimited sound selection and unlimited effect possibility
That flabby bass at 6:50 was the flabbiest ever
Yeah that is what happens when you give V72 too much bass
Thought you said you were taking a holiday break from video-making? I’m not complaining though!
This one was just fun to make. I enjoy making videos too much.
0:53 - use headphones with good bass here.
My 606 got dropped and makes a low midrange buzzing noise... i kinda like it, and kinda want to fix it...
very🙃💙cool. thanks for sharing.
I'm wondering what the 'Detroit Sound' would of been if they had used vintage equipment such as you do.
What is that specific model of that HP spectrum analyzer called?
I swear I saw Hainbach on the train yesterday. I'm in Berlin. There was a guy, on the train. He looked like Hainbach. But he wore a mask. So I kind of stared and I think the guy saw me staring so I stopped. Was it Hainbach? I was tempted to say, "It's good to have you back" and see if he replied, but then he left the train.
Was not me :-)
Must have been one of his clones.
Funny I use a rd-6 thru modular fx, sounds a lot like yours :)
Mucho mojo drums!
you talk about the "shuffle" of the 606 but it has no actual shuffle adjustment. could you explain what you mean then?
It shuffles by itself a little.
Does anyone use FPGA's for processing sound? I know some of the complicated things that can happen with a modular synth can bog down or crash computers trying to emulate them, but could see FPGA's being like a middle of the road between the two.
I don't know anything about the technicalities but I know that some very high end DACs are FPGA based, such as the Chord Electronics DAVE. So it seems like at least some audio processing jobs are possible on FPGAs.
Current large FPGAs have multiple DSP blocks and seem like they'd be great for digital audio processing. If you can handle Ethernet and 5G radios it seems like audio rates would be no problem. The development tools require quite some effort to use, although it's a continual area of development, and I'm sure it's easier now than it was a decade ago.
What interface(s) would make sense? PCIe? a bunch of SPDIF or AES/EBU? USB?
This is a great video and your enthusiasm is very inspiring.
When composing a piece of music in a DAW, you would normally first choose a tempo and then decide whether to (A) lay down a drum track/groove or (B) write a melody/ chord progression.
So how do you approach your compositions?
In this example you start with the drum machine, But in other videos you allow the hardware to create random sequences. But this makes it difficult to sync the "Music" neatly into a DAW.
Also how much human intervention should there be to tame the random sounds produced bu the hardware?
I usually never start with the drums, but often with a melodic or textural idea.Tempo is derived from that process and then I tap tempo in Live if needed. Editing is wonderful after recording a whole slew of sounds - I am lucky to work on a record with Ah! Kosmos who is great at picking the sweetest parts and putting them together rapidly.
Would you ever use the MS-20 or even the miniKorg 700 as a traveller instead?
Would be a big too big for this setup, but both beautiful
I love the sheer variety (contrast) in your work... In this video you're telling us how you pass the sound through a huge multitude of devices and then again on Syn-Ket Studien you do a whole mini-album with just one instrument....... and how you do "pure electronic" AND ambient AND melodic (and plenty more) styles too (On the downside that does mean that some of what you do is "just not my style") but it does mean that each release is fresh and exciting and we can never say "oh yeah, another Hainbach album... sounds like all the other Hainbach albums". Always keeps me coming back looking for more.
What do you think of the drum sounds of The Black Dog?
Love them!
will u, by chance, be recreating that ubm mach 1?
Some day I want to, but To be honest you can get very good results with Dials for the moment . UBMifier preset.
How did you end up with an amp from University of Arizona?!? My brother went there.
A recycling store sold it on eBay.
Proper
Who did that masterbus for you?
I compiled it from different sources - a retired Tonmeister sold me the V72 rack, knobexploit the eckmillers, felt instruments traded the Siemens.
Hi, I'm Str8 Sounds and it's good to be back, mister sweater! LoVe your videos, man!!!! How would you compare HP Frequency Analyzer to the NiiO Iotine Core 4 analog filterbank and saturator?
I would say the HP is annoying and unpredictable, until it ms absolutely wonderful and does crazy good things. Can’t compare really, since I don’t have the other unit
@@Hainbach Oh, wow, I may have discovered a unit of electro-music gear that you had not had on your radar yet! I believe you would be blown away by NiiO Iotine Core 4. It's been on my shopping list for a while now. I must scrimp, sacrifice, and save to obtain one soon. Knowing you somewhat, I'm certain you'd love it.
did you like pan sonic and pole
Yes! I mention Pole here: ua-cam.com/video/aj8vwMqh_fo/v-deo.html
@@Hainbach awesome
@@Hainbach do you remember the clicks and cuts series of comps.
What preamp are you using on your voice over microphone? I assume the microphone is a Gefell. Thanks!!!
It’s a Danner Cassette from a WSW desk from the late 70s. Mic is 672 with UM70
@@Hainbach Well, it sounds just absolutely beautiful. Thank you.
I use sooo much time to find my drum style..same shit what u do..other Hardware
Can anyone recommend VSTs that can get you somewhere near these various pieces of equipment?
AudioThing Dials, the one I use in the end. Use three in a row, it works similarly.
@@Hainbach Nice!
Nice toys ;)
They are!
oren schmalz
Thoughts about standard CASIO low-fi drums through an analog filter: ua-cam.com/video/paAVu_zqF78/v-deo.html
Oh boy this HP monster thing sound wicked! Very cool setup.
Inspiring video man. The tones you achieve from that processing path of a stock 606 are insanely good
i do the other-way around: i sample acoustic and field recording drums layered with classic drum machines, than process them through different hardware and plug ins (filter, distortion etc) and once i am happy as final stage i put them on my Sequentila Prophet 2002 and use them exactly how they come from the Prophet, in this way as the last stage they run through the magnificent prophet and its filters which make the warm and punchy
I love the University of Arizona asset tag!
It looks like AudioThing works on a Mac Desktop!! Not just iOS… Sweet !!!
All my Audiothing plugins are AU/AAX/VST/CLAP and Dials is also Linux compatible.