It should be the season finale, but instead we have the dull Yas Marina, and now we have Las Vegas as the second last race. Brazil should be the final race, it's the perfect place for a title decider
His team ordered ocon to not fight alonso. Which ocon initially refused. But look where ocon ended up... imagine the amount of points alpine would have had if there was any driver other than ocon in that seat.
Alonso is a massively talented driver. he's easily still capable of race wins in a competitive car. In formula 1, the car is 80-90% of the result, the other significant variable is driver skill, ability to read the situation (both driver and ream) and luck. in ideal track conditions, no driver is winning any races in a middling car though.
As a Max fan, this race definitely soured my thoughts and opinions of him, really sad to see how max treated Checo, he deserves so much better than that!
Dont worry, check the post race interviews. Apparently checo crashed intentionally in monaco quali. Thats why max had already said up front hes not gonna help checo this time, hes still pissed about it. (Rightfully so) He also said everything is talked out now and that he will help checo in abu dhabi if its needed :)
As a Max fan, I'm really disappointed by him for refusing to help Checo. No matter what are the reasons behind his decision, he was wrong, and Checo deserves more appreciation for the help he gave him last year (his last year title would not have been possible without Checo, period). Max didn't deserved any penalty for the incident with Lewis (it was a racing incident), but seeing later in the race that he refused to gave his place back to Checo, I wish his penalty was bigger... Great drive from George, fully deserved the victory. Also good drive from Carlos, Fernando and Charles. It was one of the best race of the year (sprint + race).
Maybe it was a heat in the moment thing, or him being stubborn. Every driver has moments like this. I do really hope they somehow manage to sort this out because Max and Checo as a team are so incredibly valuable and I really enjoyed their dynamic up until now. Also I really wouldn't even call it a racing incident, Hamilton cut him off, should've left more space, Max was definitely alongside. I was absolutely certain they'd give Hamilton the 5sec; and I'm saying this as a Hamilton Fan.
Agree with most of it, but not this "his last year title would not have been possible without Checo, period". A faster teammate would have taken points of off Lewis in Austria and Mexico at least and maybe another race as well.
@@suckieduckie I hate when people talk in ifs, just to defend Max. If Perez hadn't defended Lewis like a demon and then let Max pass later on in Abu Dhabi, Max would have come 2nd in the championship and you know it!
Especially compared to how he drove beforehand, as someone who hated Russell and branding him the torpedo at one time he completely deserved this one, excellent weekend driven by him.
You’re so used to the ridiculous stewarding from 2021 that you think it’s normal. The crash was 110% Max’s fault. It was Lewis’ corner and he doesn’t have to yield to anyone.
I know everyone talks about checo defending against Lewis but he also had to retire the car in abu dahbi and give up a podium as well. So Max definitely owes him
Glad to see that after Sainz's ferrari broke from a simple tap in austin that they made sure that the car was unbreakble when Charles went into the wall. Championship back on.
While LH being hit by divebombers, superdrivers hit each other like kids, safety car taking forever, LH being called to pits wrong time. Otherwise, he is a winner (minus coolant he almost lost, thus wouldhave making a super-podium).
I mean, he did well pacewise, but never had a challenge as Lewis was there as a safety net for any other car, and when he wasn't the closest competitor was quite far away
@@kanelbullen6992 idk, I've seen my share of illegal racing (in multiple cities, as I moved around a lot) when I would come back home late at night, so maybe you could say that the entire country is a race track
@@h2wr as he should, if you follow the drama thats going on now and the post race interviews you'll learn max rightfully didnt help checo this time haha He said he will help him in abu dhabi though
No the engineer was just making sure they agreed on no intern racing. Sometimes they deliver to much information at once. Same happend between Russell and his engineer
I'm not even a Ocon fan. But again, toxic f1 fan making drama out of nothing. Ocon said he wanted to overtake Vettel. He did exactly that and then didn't fight Alonso. How can you make any drama out of that?
Talk about ungrateful! I mean, Checo held Lewis behind in Abu Dhabi last year to help him win the Championship... Only to get it thrown back in his face. I doubt Checo's gonna help him out in the future.
What a race. They should race in Brazil every race of the season. Also, congratulation to George for his win, very happy for him and very well deserved. Alonso and Charles both drive beautifully. Also Kevin on pole for the sprint, what a moment. It felt so good. Sad it ended the way it did.
@@ThatOneDude7 Thanks to the sprint, that's probably the closest we'll get of a double race here. I know some people don't like them¹ but fwiw, I think that, as long as sprint races are a thing, one of them should always happen in Brazil. ¹ I'm mostly indifferent to them, someone else suggested a system that I'm pretty sure is similar (or the same) to what happens in some (or all) of the "official" feeder series (I'm pretty sure something similar happens in the Italian F4), where the sprint race grid is decided by the Q1, and the regular race grid by the regular Q1+Q2+Q3 order.
@@andyaccount makes no difference, he was out of position when the safety car came in. Which screwed him and relegated him to last place. It was a huge oversight from the race director
@@brianandres6474 That's what I meant, although I don't know if he was actually in front of anyone who could have scored point anyway so didn't really matter if he unlapped himself or not
As a dane and fan of verstappen this was a roller coaster of emotions. Kmag on pole, into going out first lap. And max not letting checo through left a bad taste in my mouth
Max was able to win the championship at the last race BECAUSE of Checo's and same thing happened in other races. His fight for the title has already ended but for Checo every point counts and he knew that, I think that was some BS with Max and " you know my reasons" thing
@@noahd.4551 I don't think anyone can argue Max's talent and skill in a car. However, that's where my respect for him stops. He puts on a show in public of being a nice guy. But we've all heard today's radio message and the hundreds before with him all upset blaming everyone and everything but himself. Those radio messages are Max, he's completely utterly self-involved and will NOT do anything that doesn't help his himself or his own.
This weekend was genuinely so action packed: K-Mag legendary pole, george russel sprint race win, with hamilton second for a mercedes front row lockout, then george's maiden gp win. Shame it had to end in such a bitter way with max's radio message
I'm so angry for the Red Bull drama. I am angry at Max, because that was so petty. But I am more angry that Max's actions has changed the entire perception that I had from this weekend. As a F1 fan first, a Checo fan second, and a Red Bull Racing fan third, I was so ready to celebrate such a fantastic F1 weekend. It had everything, an awesome qualifying session with a surprise polesitter (well done, K-Mag, everyone loved that), an awesome feisty sprint race, and a great win by George who showed great pace and complete dominion of the entire race. But that short-sighted little moment that Max did just tainted the best race weekend this season. And worse than that, it showed Checo that he is an outsider in his team. I know Red Bull are pretty toxic in the pursuit of results, which are clearly great, but this will be something that Checo is not going to forget. This is going to play a not insignificant part on his decision making process going forward. Max should have done better. What I really hope is that Checo really steps it up next year and dominates the championship and Max as retaliation. There is no better revenge than being the best. But I know objectively that it is highly unlikely that it will happen. But it is my dream to see Checo get that WDC.
What Max did really turns me off to Formula One. I'm canceling my F1TV account and will be watching something else on Sundays. I have enough assholes in my life I don't need to pay to watch another.
Well, that's pretty much wishful thinking. MV was RBs "golden horse" before Checo, and will still be after this. And some now understand why Ricciardo left RB back then, RB was prioritizing a newcomer (MV) over DC. I don't like Max I am honest, I don't like his childish, ruthless, spoiled personality. A bit of ego is good, but this goes beyond, I mean he's no 15 anymore... Yesterday he just showed it again. I think it is so disrespectful towards Checo and for everything he's done for MV. The funny thing is, Max didn't even win the race (I would somehow understand Max if he was asked to give up p1 ) but not like this. I'm also a checo fan, I was very happy that RB signed him, but now I think Checo should look around a take another seat. He has nothing more to prove as an F1 driver. He just needs a quick car. Checo doesn't deserve this, an RB will NEVER allow him to fight for a championship with MV there. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it...
@@fabinho69fs You DO remember no one wanted to give Checo a seat, right? Only Red Bull were willing to give him a last chance. And now all of a sudden you....and he are claiming he could be world champion? the guy is only within 0.5 seconds on verstappen on a Verstappen off-day (Singapore, brasil). In addition, Perez put his RB into the wall in Monaco so he could start ahead of Max, and now he expects favors?
Verstappen showing this true colors, such an unnecessary thing to do especially since Perez won him the 2021 title by holding up Lewis and costing him 10 seconds allowing Verstappen to be within a pitstop when the safety car was deployed
I can't believe how many people think that max didn't deserve that penalty. He even admitted after the race he knew the gap wasn't there and he went for it anyway. He crashed on purpose
Regarding Max and Ham incident, Norris was in the exact same position at the start of the race turn 1 and had to back off to avoid contact... Max never slows down or backs off as if the track is his personal driveway.
@@robywhenthe i think not letting checo through was an absolute d*ck move, but im just saying he had his reasons. but i personally think he shouldve just let him through
I actually initially thought it was on Hamilton as well tbh However, I remember a race in 2021 where Max squeezed Lewis onto the curbs and they didn't crash because Lewis went deeper on the curbs to avoid contact. this time: Max is in a similar position, pinned against the curbs. Instead of going deeper on the curbs and slowing down and/or succeeding position, Max decided to have contact. That's why he got the penalty imho. That and the inherent bias in having different volunteer racing stewards each race, but that's a whole other issue.
max after the race… “it cost him the race and me only 5 seconds” “i had no intention of backing out” stewards have more information via throttle and brake input, clearly saw max dive bombed him… like max admitted to yet you made that a bigger deal than max’s absolutely disrespectful behavior towards his own teammate
The stewards penalised Max because his telemetry said he was carrying too much speed into that corner to be able to cleanly make it round. It was another case of "you have to give me room, but I'm not going to do the same on the exit."
I don't like that they penalize based on what they think was going to happen. If Lewis gave just a car's width through the whole corner and into turn 3 and Max drove into him because he couldn't make the corner, then it's 100% Max's fault give him even a bigger penalty (and this may have well happened). But maybe Max makes the corner (we don't know). However this isn't what happened, what happened was Max was ahead through part of turn 1, along side Lewis going into turn two and Lewis just cut across like he wasn't there.
@@cameronthompson1424 . Sorry, but that's a terrible interpretation. Max was gaining ground into turn 2 even though he was fairly tight to the inside on the approach. He was slightly faster than Lewis even though his approach angle was much worse. So unless you are allowing for some sort of divine intervention, plain physics would prevent Max from getting round that corner even if Lewis left half a mile for him. The adjudication was based on the fact that the only reason Max was alongside Lewis was because he was driving recklessly (again.)
@@iandavis8725 I guess my wish is that they were allowed to race wheel to wheel (or wheel to side pod) throughout multiple corners. That is what is exciting. I'm not ok with the idea that if a car has his inside wheels just behind another cars inside wheel going into a corner, he has to cede that position and isn't allowed space. This is the only reasoning I've heard that makes sense to me as to why Max was at fault. The rules say that the inside car has to have their front wheels aligned with the front wheels of the outside car when attempting an overtake in order for the outside car to be required to give space. If this is how it's going to be ruled and enforced the exciting 50/50 overtake or even 60/40 overtake will be gone because as soon as the leading driver notices that the attacking car wasn't alongside their front wheels they can just slam the door shut and it will be the attacking cars fault. I think the rules need to be adjusted so that if you are battling another car you are required to give a cars width all the way through the corner until you are going straight again. This takes away one of Max's moves, take the inside and run the outside car all the way off the track claiming you had the right to the racing line. I think that's just as bs as what Hamilton did in slamming the door shut when he knew Verstappen was still there.
@@dansegelov305 But he was alongside him and entitled to space. He hadn't locked up yet, and was fully on the apex of the corner. To me whether he was going to make the corner or not was irrelevant. Like I said if Hamilton gives him just a cars width and Max plows into him then he can get a huge penalty and I wouldn't disagree. I don't want the FIA adjudicating what they think would happen. How much faster into turn 2 is Max aloud to go before he is "out of control?" 5% faster, 10%? Does that change if he is right on the inside? What about if he is a cars length away from the inside? How much faster is he aloud to go then? It's much easier to make a call if you say, Max was on the apex and not given space, penalty Lewis OR Lewis gave a cars width and Max understeered into Lewis cause he was going to fast, penalty Max. Or just call it what it was, a racing incident, Max was probably going faster then Lewis was expecting and Lewis could have left space knowing that if Max is fighting him through turn 1 he wasn't going to stop fighting him into turn 2.
I'm surprised theirs no mention about Yuki not able to unlap himself, pretty much his race ruined (and yet Albon and Latifi were allowed, but Tsunoda not allowed).
This weekend had everything man, just a shame it got soured by a bit of bad sportsmanship at the end there but wow, easily the best race weekend of the year, definitely top 3.
Never was a big fan of Max's attitude, but I understand that these are athletes at the top of their game and sometimes things can come across differently than they're meant, so my respect for him has slowly been building. However after the Checo incident today, that completely reset my respect back to 0.
They don't care what we think about them, so I don't care about it either. That being said, from purely diplomatic POV - Max knows he needs to gel with this guy for at least another season. A season where he will probably have to fend off furious Mercedes out there with a vengeance. ...does he really expect to receive any meaningful support from his teammate after this? And for what? For P5? Just... bizarre...
Max just scored the biggest own-goal imaginable. If the Monaco thing is true, it’s even worse than it looked. I’ve been a huge Max fan, rethinking that now.
@@ThinkmoreLivebetter I'm not so sure about the unintentionally. Have you seen the image with the telemetry? It looks really weird. Also, just because it's long ago doesn't mean it's any better.
@@suckieduckie it wasn’t good then either. But at least it could be chalked up to excitement over the championship but that’s in the bag now and Max needs to move on like an adult.
Even after Max said in his interview that "he knew they were going to colide but went for anyway, coz it wasn't going to affect his race that much" but people still think Lewis was at fault.
@@meghanaf1109 _"To be honest, I went around the outside, and I immediately felt he was not going to leave space. I just went for it, he didn’t leave me space, so I knew we were going to get together. It cost him the race win, for me it gave me five seconds. It wouldn’t have mattered anything for my race, because we were just way too slow."_ The full quote makes it much worse, since it suggests Max did it deliberately to cost Hamilton a win in a race Max wasn't going to win anyway.
It was Lewis’ corner, he was half a car lengths ahead, Max was fully aware that the door was closed but barged in anyway. He was fully committed to crashing into Lewis because it was of no consequence to himself & would cost Lewis the win. He admitted that himself. How can anyone defend that? Not a racing incident.
On the Max Lewis collision, the only reason max is alongside is because he is going far too fast to make the corner. According the the live telemetry he was going the same speed as Russell at turn in despite being on such a tight line (I know that telemetry isn't perfect and id love to see proper telemetry)
Yeah, what the commentators basically concluded is that overspeeding through a corner (as if driving a top-fuel dragster) and thusly not making the next corner is a-okay, because the driver ahead should have foreseen his wild behaviour and given him space. This commentator logic is braindead.
Regarding Tsunoda: he went into the pits under (I think) the VSC just before it became an SC, so I think he crossed the timing line *just* before George. He was therefore on the lead lap when the SC came out, and had then pitted and so wasn't on the lead lap in the "snake"...
Looked to me like Max tried to make a move where he didn't have space...his words were 'To be honest, I went around the outside, and I immediately felt he was not going to leave space. I just went for it, he didn’t leave me space, so I knew we were going to get together. It cost him the race win, for me it gave me five seconds. It wouldn’t have mattered anything for my race, because we were just way too slow." That is insane, that he knew that he didn't have space and went for it anyway...
This is the two of them now. Pretty sure Lewis used the same calculus at Silverstone. Just wasn’t going to give up the corner no matter how hard Max would squeeze him
@@greenlantern7959 Silverstone Hamilton was on the inside. Apples and oranges there, but I guess Max fans can't resist typing Silverstone for everything.
I felt he went to heavy at turn 1 knowing that turn 2 wasn't going to be his anyway. He absolutely bombed it like it was an F1 lobby not thinking where he would be later on the sequence of corners. I think the 5 second penalty is fair
@@hooflord3146 My thoughts exactly. Hamilton was already set for the pack of corners. Verstappen just yeeted the car in the first corner without any racing line. Was a nearly deliberate crash from Verstappen if you ask me. Online lobby worthy.
If people thought the radio message from Max was bad refusing to give back the position, to watch the post race interview where he basically confirms crashing into Lewis was intentional, and sticking two fingers up to Sergio. Can see RB having a massive issue when it comes to contract negotiations, because they’ve shown Max is bigger than the team with his ego. Whoever ends up in that second seat is basically committing to being a wing man with no hope of competing for the WDC
@@FaithStarCraftHD 2017 Hungarian GP (might not be the year but it’s defo that race) Hamilton in a title fight. Bottas let’s him passed to chase Kimi and Seb in the Ferrari’s, Hamilton doesn’t catch them and allows the pass with Max within a second of Bottas in the final corner to give back the position awarded through team orders. Max said it dated back to last summer. So it’s clearly a grudge about Monaco. And that’s pathetic, the man literally got gifted a WDC because of Perez last year. He was getting annihilated in Abu Dhabi last year. Perez comes to the rescue. He has won the WDC this year so whats 2 points to him? End of the day there’s still money at stake for WDC positions.
"I just went for it, he didn't leave me space so I knew we were going to get together. It cost him the race win, for me 5 seconds. It wouldn't have mattered anyway for my race because we were way too slow." - MAX POST RACE
@@Reaz399 Max went way too fast into that corner. Look at the angle when he was outside Hamilton going into t2. The corner was too steep for him to make and his trajectory would have taken him straight into the racing line for the corner.
You are clearly biased. Just look at what he says: “He didn’t leave me space”. It takes two to tango. Lewis squeezed him a bit too hard. If it was the other way around, Max would have done the same to Lewis. Penalty for Max was very harsh. So racing incident imo. I’m a Max fan, but today he dissapointed me by not helping Checo. Also very strange that Max and Lewis can race other drivers without incidents. But when the pair of the them race against each other, it’s always fireworks. Don’t blame Max, don’t blame Lewis. They just don’t get along and BOTH of them need to get their ego’s sorted out.
“To be honest, I went around the outside, and I immediately felt he was not going to leave space. I just went for it, he didn’t leave me space, so I knew we were going to get together. It cost him the race win, for me it gave me five seconds. It wouldn’t have mattered anything for my race, because we were just way too slow.”
@@noabakker3848 hmm idk man. I was a fan of his attitude this year as it seemed he’d matured quite a bit. I was not a fan of the way he carried himself today. Even the way he talk back to his engineer. He responded with an absurd amount of entitlement. It was super cringe.
Max admitted what all drivers have been saying all along. When squeezed he will crash purposely into you. But when defending he will squeeze and run you off track at every opportunity. Kinda ironic Brazil is where he squeezed Ocon in a similar fashion in 2018 and where he left so much room in 2021. Thankfully he showed what many suspected all along as well. That's he's not only a terrible racer but also a human being and that to his teamate that literally races for him.
I can’t believe Race Control completely forgot to unlap Tsunoda. I was expecting them to realize their mistake and make the Safety Car go around one more lap to allow Tsunoda to unlap and return to his correct position between the Williams cars, but they just went ahead and restarted the race 😠 If I were Tsunoda I would have unlapped myself regardless
@@swordsman1137 "forgot" tsunoda was behind the mercs funnily enough. what was worse was the vsc and safety car coming out super late blocking ferrari from a really optimal pitstop, even though lando was on track out of his car. real merc favoritism this race
Clarification for Max his reason(s) was that he hasn’t forgotten that Checo deliberately crashed in Q3 of monaco gp while max was on a flyer. Onboards and telemetry data proves it. Checo told christian and helmut and thats why there is this “beef” behind closed doors.
Sainz's race IQ is impressive as always. In the last stint he was on the radio discussing Checo's tires and pitstop who was two places up at the time while battling up the field himself. 🤯 Also noticed that every other team congratulated Haas pole on their social media except Ferrari. They just had a bland quali report. Such a soulless organisation.
As a lifelong Jenson Button fan, I ended up adopting George as my driver of interest when he first came into F1. I saw similarities in their smooth driving styles although George seems to have more raw speed. It feels very fitting that he won today where Jenson left off back in 2012.
I get why Sainz couldn't give the position to Leclerc, as Leclerc had only 1.4 seconds to the car behind. So as the engineer responded, it would be worth it. I also feel Sainz deserved that podium more.
That's the thing. Neither of the two (HAM or VER) are willing to give space to each other because of what happened in the past. If you are behind going into a turn and you don't pull back, you are basically forcing a collision. Max apparently said the exact same thing in the post race interviews. He knew he wouldn't be left any space by Lewis but went for it anyways ...
Max definitely has the attitude that he can push cars around on the track but if someone does it to me it's absolutely unacceptable.... It's a shame...
Max his season was clean otherwise. He doesn't crash with Russel, Leclerc or Carlos. Can't we just enjoy the f1 driving instead of crying about every move? Let me tell you: moves with crashes are going to happen in every season. Trigger warning.
@@Alex-md6bu you do know that max was defending form checo and just putbraked himself and found himself alongside Lewis. He made a split second decision which backfired.... It's just racing
@@joshkiej6601 look at incidents where max ran Lewis wide, Saudi 21, intelagos 21, imola 21, max pushed Lewis off the track. Let's look at max diving down the inside lap 1 Abu Dhabi 21, Monza 21, brazil 21, accidents happened when Lewis didn't back out, it's senna esque in that max is basically aiming at other cars and if they back out he overtakes,if the other driver refuses to back out he causes a crash. Max was leaving leclerc space In the early part of the 22 season, something he NEVER does with Hamilton... Comes across as knowing he can't win cleanly so has to fight dirty
This Russell first win feels like Lewis’ first. Dramatic, action packed race. Safety cars, he could’ve easily cracked under the pressure but he kinda cruised and dominated the race.
Things we learn in this season for 2023: Max ain't getting no defences from Perez anymore Ferrari should prioritize Sainz Mercedes will be a powerhouse next year Holy shit Alonso is a god still but will crash into Stroll 14 times. And Norris is just phenomenal.
@@linkinparkkiro I said this "Season" not this race, And how is he not phenomenal? Dude carried Mclaren all by himself how is he overrated, he is fighting Alonso and Ocon 😂
@@andrejaques Just because Danny Ric is shit doesn't mean that Norris is phenomenal. Remember that the dude bottled his first win last year in Russia, because he is still a child. Lando has a lot more to mature still. He has the speed but not the maturity yet.
For the HAM and VER incident, I think Max should've waites a few more corners to launch his move or at least lift the throttle once he didn't get the move done
It's really interesting to see how each social media platform has a different view on this. Insta is going crazy with Hamilton blame whilst Twitter tends to favour Lewis a bit more in this particular incident as well as UA-cam. Very interesting to see.
But VER didn’t so it was a racing incident. VER took his penalty. Since the wheel hubs are regulated and HAM lost his in the incident to be fair I wondered why HAM didn’t get a penalty as well.
Nah that incident was the typical Max “yield or we’ll crash” driving style. Lewis calls his bluff but just think about how many times Lewis has had to back out when being squeezed by Max. On top of all that, for Max to come out and say “To be honest, I went around the outside, and I immediately felt he was not going to leave space. I just went for it, he didn’t leave me space, so I knew we were going to get together.” That’s exactly why he deserved the penalty. Lets not forget on the same corner 4 years ago Ocon got a 10 Second Penalty for doing exactly what Max did.
Max admitted he crashed into Lewis on purpose then said don't ever ask him to let his teammate past him. Hes such a spoiled bear, his dad and Horner are the reason he feels the world owes him everything.
We all know Max wouldn't leave him space if the situation was in reverse, plus why leave space for him ? Because he is Max ? He is ruthless on the track plus he has a poor sportsmanship and he showed it again today
Nail, head. Lewis and Max both get the red mist when driving near each other. Both can race anybody else cleanly. So it's obviously not one driver to blame. Lewis also suddenly blatantly moved under braking last race because it was Max behind him, something he wouldn't do to anybody else. Conveniently completely ignored by the FIA because there was no contact.
@@illbeV yea riiiiighttt! You have a more competitive car for most part of the season and yet you screw up or your team screws you and then cry like a baby and beg for a podium in radio shows real character of a champion!!!🙄
Realistically max was always going to go into the side of Hamilton at t2 regardless of how much space he’d been given due to how tight onto the inside he was. He was always going to drift wide.
@@DutchGamingPieces that’s just isn’t true tho is it lad. Hamilton was on the racing line in t1 and the only reason ver was ahead for a tiny moment was because he broke much later and tried to pull off a miracle move around the outside, but he didn’t.
@@DutchGamingPieces _"To be honest, I went around the outside, and I immediately felt he was not going to leave space. I just went for it, he didn’t leave me space, so I knew we were going to get together. It cost him the race win, for me it gave me five seconds. It wouldn’t have mattered anything for my race, because we were just way too slow."_ Verstappen admitted he crashed into Hamilton in a post-race interview. You should have checked what the party line from Red Bull was before posting your nonsense... And do you think that Ocon was unfairly punished after Max and Ocon collided in the exact same corner a few years back?
Hamilton CLEARLY turned into Verstappen. What did Hamilton even think would happen when aiming for an apex that already had another car on it??? Coming into turn 2, Max was all the way to the inside already so where else should he have gone in that moment? Lewis literally had all the space, but decided to try and force Verstappen either off the track or into slamming the brakes mid-corner. Sure he was like a meter in front at that point, but that doesn't legitimize a move like that. Max couldn't even have reacted to what Lewis was doing by the time he was already all over him.
Amazing, feel good race and quite the learning experience. Not surprised to see Max in a crash now that nothing matters but how can he not let Perez through after everything Sergio has done over the last 2 seasons. Also WTF from Leclerc. Yeah you're not taking a free podium off your teammate. How entitled can you get?
I’ve always felt there was something off with Max his personality today. Just cemented that for me. That radio sounds like he’ll never give up a position. I told you that last year that’s a piece of work. It’s a team sport.
you don't give up positions in racing!!! its called racing NOT PASSING So tired of team orders to let people through. Checo blocked for Max he sure wasn't letting him pass! Checo himself said he'd rather earn it then gets mad when he has to!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Max and Lewis collision gave me Ocon an Max vibes. And I really find it funny that many wanted a penalty for lewis here when with a similar incident the wanted a penalty for the inside driver. I know its not exactly the same bcs lapping and stuff but still.
Charles imo has taken a genuine confidence hit. I hope along with Mercedes coming up 2023 there will be a 4 way battle between Lewis George Max and Charles
I think the max penalty was a bit harsh for the move itself but it seemed it was the FIA finally doing something about that do or die move that he loves to pull off and blame other drivers for, fair enough go for the gap but forcing the other driver to give you more space if not there will be contact isn't good racing and it being against Hamilton again, glad something was done. His comments after the race also show he had remorse for doing that
Matt: *sees Charles in the wall*
Matt: it's all over!
Charles: I've got you bud. *Finishes p4*
Brilliant recovery drive from Charles.
yes
Considering the way he hit the wall I was quite surprised with how he got out of there basically unscathed.
Yeah it's the complete opposite for Norris after that collision
@@RH-hz9ly as wise and powerful darth Alonso have said, karma
Brazil almost never dissappints. Great Track, Atmosphere, Crowd.
There's a lot of circuits with great crowds and atmosphere. Interlagos is unusual for pairing that with a superb circuit
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Ye but Russell won
As a Brazilian who lived in Interlagos, I am so proud we are always able to provide a good show both in the crowd and the race itself.
somos demais mesmo... não tem como
Boss track dude 💪
tem q se esforçar muito pra fazer uma corrida em Interlagos ser ruim :V
It should be the season finale, but instead we have the dull Yas Marina, and now we have Las Vegas as the second last race. Brazil should be the final race, it's the perfect place for a title decider
@@princeendymion9044 cash is all I have to say
Can we just appreciate Alonso's P5? I mean finally his motor and pitcrew didn't screw up his race. He's really incredible this season 😍
His pit crew did screw him up, he lost 10 seconds in his 2nd pit-stop
His team ordered ocon to not fight alonso. Which ocon initially refused. But look where ocon ended up... imagine the amount of points alpine would have had if there was any driver other than ocon in that seat.
Alonso is a massively talented driver. he's easily still capable of race wins in a competitive car.
In formula 1, the car is 80-90% of the result, the other significant variable is driver skill, ability to read the situation (both driver and ream) and luck.
in ideal track conditions, no driver is winning any races in a middling car though.
It is also why Ferrari cound not switch their cars, Alonso was close and so was Verstappen
@@arnaudrucin at least they gave him 4 wheels to continue xd
Max and Lewis are destined to be Peter Griffin and the chicken for as long as they are on the track together, and honestly, I'm here for it.
HAHAHA!!!
what a beautiful analogy lmao
HAHAHA YES
Max is the chicken of course
Same lol
As a Max fan, this race definitely soured my thoughts and opinions of him, really sad to see how max treated Checo, he deserves so much better than that!
Dont worry, check the post race interviews. Apparently checo crashed intentionally in monaco quali. Thats why max had already said up front hes not gonna help checo this time, hes still pissed about it. (Rightfully so)
He also said everything is talked out now and that he will help checo in abu dhabi if its needed :)
I'm not going to let him by,and i've my reason..what a spoiled brat
@@Jonathan-mj1oe no that is not true
That is exactly how I felt when I heard his radio
They will probably do some damage control in Abu Dhabi. Just wait for it.
So disappointed for Checo. He did not deserve that.
He does not even deserve that seat at the moment.
It was discussed before the race, Perez seems to have forgotten the pre-race team meeting and started being a drama queen.
Honestly this is just dumb.
@@Shiraumere what?
@@Shiraumere it wasn't. Stop lying randomly to justify holy max
Can we just point out the fact that no one ever gave a fck about P2 in the championship in the 71st occurrences of F1 seasons ?
Russ and Sainz getting their first wins are the highlights of this year. Two of the best races ever, and the teammate drama was crazy....
Yes, but Sainz’ win was gifted by Ferrari, just to boost his ego.
@@Angel-fz8dr As if they'd actually know what they are doing lmao
@@ares1670 good point, but they were fking over Leclerc, which is something they are good at...
@@Angel-fz8dr they tried to fuck sainz too
As a Max fan, I'm really disappointed by him for refusing to help Checo. No matter what are the reasons behind his decision, he was wrong, and Checo deserves more appreciation for the help he gave him last year (his last year title would not have been possible without Checo, period). Max didn't deserved any penalty for the incident with Lewis (it was a racing incident), but seeing later in the race that he refused to gave his place back to Checo, I wish his penalty was bigger... Great drive from George, fully deserved the victory. Also good drive from Carlos, Fernando and Charles. It was one of the best race of the year (sprint + race).
Maybe it was a heat in the moment thing, or him being stubborn. Every driver has moments like this. I do really hope they somehow manage to sort this out because Max and Checo as a team are so incredibly valuable and I really enjoyed their dynamic up until now.
Also I really wouldn't even call it a racing incident, Hamilton cut him off, should've left more space, Max was definitely alongside. I was absolutely certain they'd give Hamilton the 5sec; and I'm saying this as a Hamilton Fan.
Checo fan pain 😢
Agree with most of it, but not this "his last year title would not have been possible without Checo, period".
A faster teammate would have taken points of off Lewis in Austria and Mexico at least and maybe another race as well.
@@suckieduckie I hate when people talk in ifs, just to defend Max. If Perez hadn't defended Lewis like a demon and then let Max pass later on in Abu Dhabi, Max would have come 2nd in the championship and you know it!
@@suckieduckie so abudabi is not good enough and you require austria and mexico??
I wonder what our reactions would have been if someone had told us 2 years ago that a Merc 1-2 was going to be a huge surprise
I was actually surprised that their last 1-2 was in 2020, I was almost sure they had one in 2021.
I can't imagine a better venue for Russel's maiden win. What a race ladies and Gentlemen. What a race.
Especially compared to how he drove beforehand, as someone who hated Russell and branding him the torpedo at one time he completely deserved this one, excellent weekend driven by him.
@@vruscryaotic1830 torpedo, lol
And he also got pole. Truly showing his worth
You’re so used to the ridiculous stewarding from 2021 that you think it’s normal. The crash was 110% Max’s fault. It was Lewis’ corner and he doesn’t have to yield to anyone.
Silverstone?
I know everyone talks about checo defending against Lewis but he also had to retire the car in abu dahbi and give up a podium as well. So Max definitely owes him
and it doesn't matter what checo did he would have finished 4th anyways. the retirement made sense 100%
They retired the car in Abu Dabi to avoid another SC and let Max do the final overtake...
He sacrificed nothing in abu dhabi
@@ClueyyHD so you mean 4th place on grid with points = DNF?
Checo fan here I want to die 😢
Glad to see that after Sainz's ferrari broke from a simple tap in austin that they made sure that the car was unbreakble when Charles went into the wall. Championship back on.
Props to Gasly for being so consistent in all the chaos. Another 5 second penalty for speeding in the pit-lane 😂
George is dangerously comfortable with leading a race. Can’t wait to see a true three-horse race.
While LH being hit by divebombers, superdrivers hit each other like kids, safety car taking forever, LH being called to pits wrong time. Otherwise, he is a winner (minus coolant he almost lost, thus wouldhave making a super-podium).
@@unotoli Don't be salty, he did great and deserved the win.
@@a.r.s Yes, very good in the SC restarts
@@a.r.s even Lewis was Happy for George’s first win, I don’t understand these people.
I mean, he did well pacewise, but never had a challenge as Lewis was there as a safety net for any other car, and when he wasn't the closest competitor was quite far away
Can we take a moment to appreciate what an incredible track Brazil is
I believe Brazil is a country
@@kanelbullen6992 idk, I've seen my share of illegal racing (in multiple cities, as I moved around a lot) when I would come back home late at night, so maybe you could say that the entire country is a race track
the actual track isnt... great (on paper), but somehow provides good races. We need simpler tracks ig
Agreed
100%. Will look forward to this race every year! Awesome to watch
Max fan here. That radio message was like a gut punch. I'm so disappointed that he would treat Checo like that. He really showed his ass today.
So sad brother. I felt the same.
Yup, lost a big amount of respect for maz today, i love checo and he does not deserve and when the race meant absolutely nothing to max,
Same
Same man. Huge Max fan but this was horrible to see
Same dude, same
“Checo’s a legend!” Aged like milk.
Milk left on a turned on radiator by the side of a well sun lit window. Wrapped in a blanked!
He’s still a legend tho
@@mimo9931 Obviously, but Max doesn't treat him like one
@@h2wr as he should, if you follow the drama thats going on now and the post race interviews you'll learn max rightfully didnt help checo this time haha
He said he will help him in abu dhabi though
@@mimo9931 nobody cares
Leclerc had a seriously underrated race! Full on crash with the wall and manages 4th
When everybody talking about Max and Checo, I am thinking Ocon arguing with his team like a kid 😂😂
When was that??
@@rickyricardo2006 When his team told him to not race against Alonso.
No the engineer was just making sure they agreed on no intern racing. Sometimes they deliver to much information at once. Same happend between Russell and his engineer
@@whyareyoureadingmynickname8158 But Alonso was 3 cars ahead ?
I'm not even a Ocon fan. But again, toxic f1 fan making drama out of nothing.
Ocon said he wanted to overtake Vettel. He did exactly that and then didn't fight Alonso.
How can you make any drama out of that?
As checo said on max"this is how he really is"
Checo said it perfectly. "after all I've done for him"
Done what, the only thing good was last year one race holding up lulu. And if you don’t know what happened in the past then just shut your mouth.
Talk about ungrateful! I mean, Checo held Lewis behind in Abu Dhabi last year to help him win the Championship... Only to get it thrown back in his face. I doubt Checo's gonna help him out in the future.
@@emilypeck6929 not to mention he’s also let Max by multiple times
@@beemrmem3 Very true! I didn't mind Max but now he's really going down in my opinion
What a race. They should race in Brazil every race of the season. Also, congratulation to George for his win, very happy for him and very well deserved. Alonso and Charles both drive beautifully. Also Kevin on pole for the sprint, what a moment. It felt so good. Sad it ended the way it did.
I genuinely wouldnt mind a double brazil
@@ThatOneDude7 Thanks to the sprint, that's probably the closest we'll get of a double race here. I know some people don't like them¹ but fwiw, I think that, as long as sprint races are a thing, one of them should always happen in Brazil.
¹ I'm mostly indifferent to them, someone else suggested a system that I'm pretty sure is similar (or the same) to what happens in some (or all) of the "official" feeder series (I'm pretty sure something similar happens in the Italian F4), where the sprint race grid is decided by the Q1, and the regular race grid by the regular Q1+Q2+Q3 order.
Probably the best venue for a season finale
@@ThatOneDude7 same. Some other tracks are just bad and awful.
@@timoooo7320 agree
The whole mess with Yuki not getting the radio msg to unlap himself. This was definitely one of the most interesting races this year.
Hadn't he just been in the pits so maybe he had unlapped in there?
@@andyaccount makes no difference, he was out of position when the safety car came in. Which screwed him and relegated him to last place. It was a huge oversight from the race director
@@brianandres6474 That's what I meant, although I don't know if he was actually in front of anyone who could have scored point anyway so didn't really matter if he unlapped himself or not
As a dane and fan of verstappen this was a roller coaster of emotions. Kmag on pole, into going out first lap. And max not letting checo through left a bad taste in my mouth
Max was able to win the championship at the last race BECAUSE of Checo's and same thing happened in other races. His fight for the title has already ended but for Checo every point counts and he knew that, I think that was some BS with Max and " you know my reasons" thing
I hope that was just a one time thing, because even as someone who has rooted for him for years I'm struggling to like him atm. That was really low.
@@noahd.4551 I don't think anyone can argue Max's talent and skill in a car. However, that's where my respect for him stops.
He puts on a show in public of being a nice guy. But we've all heard today's radio message and the hundreds before with him all upset blaming everyone and everything but himself.
Those radio messages are Max, he's completely utterly self-involved and will NOT do anything that doesn't help his himself or his own.
Its arguable max would never have beat Lewis last year if not for Checo
@@user-360johnn If Hungary crash and Silverstone crash did'nt happen he wouldn't need Checo.
@@ryosargeant1257 lmao max fanboys are delusional 😂😂😂
The start of Perez’s villain origin story
Brazil never disappoints, and a pretty energetic event too. Congrats to Russel and Hamilton for giving the 1-2 podium 😀
Max being exposed for who he really is. Beautiful
He's always been a selfish, spoilt and toxic driver. He's never been a team player and never will
Yuki stuck in between the front runners was great meme potential
Insert John Travolta GIF
This weekend was genuinely so action packed: K-Mag legendary pole, george russel sprint race win, with hamilton second for a mercedes front row lockout, then george's maiden gp win. Shame it had to end in such a bitter way with max's radio message
"it shows you who he really is"
-SP
Don't be mad at Horner... If he says what he really thinks, he'll get fired by Redbull's Team Principal: Max.... I mean, Marko
I'm so angry for the Red Bull drama. I am angry at Max, because that was so petty. But I am more angry that Max's actions has changed the entire perception that I had from this weekend.
As a F1 fan first, a Checo fan second, and a Red Bull Racing fan third, I was so ready to celebrate such a fantastic F1 weekend. It had everything, an awesome qualifying session with a surprise polesitter (well done, K-Mag, everyone loved that), an awesome feisty sprint race, and a great win by George who showed great pace and complete dominion of the entire race.
But that short-sighted little moment that Max did just tainted the best race weekend this season. And worse than that, it showed Checo that he is an outsider in his team. I know Red Bull are pretty toxic in the pursuit of results, which are clearly great, but this will be something that Checo is not going to forget. This is going to play a not insignificant part on his decision making process going forward. Max should have done better.
What I really hope is that Checo really steps it up next year and dominates the championship and Max as retaliation. There is no better revenge than being the best. But I know objectively that it is highly unlikely that it will happen. But it is my dream to see Checo get that WDC.
What Max did really turns me off to Formula One. I'm canceling my F1TV account and will be watching something else on Sundays. I have enough assholes in my life I don't need to pay to watch another.
👏👏 correct 👏👏
Well, that's pretty much wishful thinking. MV was RBs "golden horse" before Checo, and will still be after this. And some now understand why Ricciardo left RB back then, RB was prioritizing a newcomer (MV) over DC. I don't like Max I am honest, I don't like his childish, ruthless, spoiled personality. A bit of ego is good, but this goes beyond, I mean he's no 15 anymore... Yesterday he just showed it again. I think it is so disrespectful towards Checo and for everything he's done for MV. The funny thing is, Max didn't even win the race (I would somehow understand Max if he was asked to give up p1 ) but not like this. I'm also a checo fan, I was very happy that RB signed him, but now I think Checo should look around a take another seat. He has nothing more to prove as an F1 driver. He just needs a quick car. Checo doesn't deserve this, an RB will NEVER allow him to fight for a championship with MV there. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it...
If it wasn’t for rb he’d be in a haas rn. Checo should be holding max d*ck when he pees
@@fabinho69fs You DO remember no one wanted to give Checo a seat, right? Only Red Bull were willing to give him a last chance. And now all of a sudden you....and he are claiming he could be world champion?
the guy is only within 0.5 seconds on verstappen on a Verstappen off-day (Singapore, brasil). In addition, Perez put his RB into the wall in Monaco so he could start ahead of Max, and now he expects favors?
The Brazilian Grand Prix is always one of the best, such a great track
The track is just too good, it's impossible to not have a great race there.
Max being Max. Not surprised, just sad for Checo.
This season to be honest, Latifi has basically been a professional chicane
Its hilarious when you listen to his post-race and quali interviews and he just had this constant stream of excuses every time
Verstappen showing this true colors, such an unnecessary thing to do especially since Perez won him the 2021 title by holding up Lewis and costing him 10 seconds allowing Verstappen to be within a pitstop when the safety car was deployed
I really want to know his “reasons”
@@mimo9931 checo had deliberately crashed at monaco
propably monaco is his reason
@@shoppingcart2589 do we know for sure he crashed on purpose or is it just a speculation?
@@mimo9931 Same, wanna know this as well, seems like speculation
I can't believe how many people think that max didn't deserve that penalty. He even admitted after the race he knew the gap wasn't there and he went for it anyway. He crashed on purpose
Regarding Max and Ham incident, Norris was in the exact same position at the start of the race turn 1 and had to back off to avoid contact... Max never slows down or backs off as if the track is his personal driveway.
You wouldn't give up that position in a video game, and Max does love his virtual racing
@@kimf.wendel9113 HAHAHA
Lost whatever little respect I had left for Max today. After everything Checo has done as a team mate for him, what a disgrace
Checo crashed intentionally at Monaco probably costing max pole and the win
@@simongerard4632 you pretty much summarize every shit f1 “fan”
@@robywhenthe based. I am on checos side because fanboy noise intensifies
@@robywhenthe ayo im just stating facts, i didnt even say my opinion
@@robywhenthe i think not letting checo through was an absolute d*ck move, but im just saying he had his reasons. but i personally think he shouldve just let him through
We need a compilation of radio communications for the Brazil GP. It was full of drama. 🍿
I actually initially thought it was on Hamilton as well tbh
However,
I remember a race in 2021 where Max squeezed Lewis onto the curbs and they didn't crash because Lewis went deeper on the curbs to avoid contact.
this time:
Max is in a similar position, pinned against the curbs.
Instead of going deeper on the curbs and slowing down and/or succeeding position,
Max decided to have contact. That's why he got the penalty imho.
That and the inherent bias in having different volunteer racing stewards each race, but that's a whole other issue.
max after the race… “it cost him the race and me only 5 seconds”
“i had no intention of backing out”
stewards have more information via throttle and brake input, clearly saw max dive bombed him… like max admitted to
yet you made that a bigger deal than max’s absolutely disrespectful behavior towards his own teammate
The stewards penalised Max because his telemetry said he was carrying too much speed into that corner to be able to cleanly make it round. It was another case of "you have to give me room, but I'm not going to do the same on the exit."
I don't like that they penalize based on what they think was going to happen. If Lewis gave just a car's width through the whole corner and into turn 3 and Max drove into him because he couldn't make the corner, then it's 100% Max's fault give him even a bigger penalty (and this may have well happened). But maybe Max makes the corner (we don't know). However this isn't what happened, what happened was Max was ahead through part of turn 1, along side Lewis going into turn two and Lewis just cut across like he wasn't there.
@@cameronthompson1424 . Sorry, but that's a terrible interpretation.
Max was gaining ground into turn 2 even though he was fairly tight to the inside on the approach. He was slightly faster than Lewis even though his approach angle was much worse. So unless you are allowing for some sort of divine intervention, plain physics would prevent Max from getting round that corner even if Lewis left half a mile for him.
The adjudication was based on the fact that the only reason Max was alongside Lewis was because he was driving recklessly (again.)
@@cameronthompson1424 Hamilton was actually ahead in turn 2. Verstappen got the penalty for taking Hamilton off the track. Was simple as that really.
@@iandavis8725 I guess my wish is that they were allowed to race wheel to wheel (or wheel to side pod) throughout multiple corners. That is what is exciting. I'm not ok with the idea that if a car has his inside wheels just behind another cars inside wheel going into a corner, he has to cede that position and isn't allowed space. This is the only reasoning I've heard that makes sense to me as to why Max was at fault. The rules say that the inside car has to have their front wheels aligned with the front wheels of the outside car when attempting an overtake in order for the outside car to be required to give space. If this is how it's going to be ruled and enforced the exciting 50/50 overtake or even 60/40 overtake will be gone because as soon as the leading driver notices that the attacking car wasn't alongside their front wheels they can just slam the door shut and it will be the attacking cars fault. I think the rules need to be adjusted so that if you are battling another car you are required to give a cars width all the way through the corner until you are going straight again. This takes away one of Max's moves, take the inside and run the outside car all the way off the track claiming you had the right to the racing line. I think that's just as bs as what Hamilton did in slamming the door shut when he knew Verstappen was still there.
@@dansegelov305 But he was alongside him and entitled to space. He hadn't locked up yet, and was fully on the apex of the corner. To me whether he was going to make the corner or not was irrelevant. Like I said if Hamilton gives him just a cars width and Max plows into him then he can get a huge penalty and I wouldn't disagree. I don't want the FIA adjudicating what they think would happen. How much faster into turn 2 is Max aloud to go before he is "out of control?" 5% faster, 10%? Does that change if he is right on the inside? What about if he is a cars length away from the inside? How much faster is he aloud to go then?
It's much easier to make a call if you say, Max was on the apex and not given space, penalty Lewis OR Lewis gave a cars width and Max understeered into Lewis cause he was going to fast, penalty Max. Or just call it what it was, a racing incident, Max was probably going faster then Lewis was expecting and Lewis could have left space knowing that if Max is fighting him through turn 1 he wasn't going to stop fighting him into turn 2.
I'm surprised theirs no mention about Yuki not able to unlap himself, pretty much his race ruined (and yet Albon and Latifi were allowed, but Tsunoda not allowed).
I know right. And Yuki was in between them! Absolute balls up from Race Control.
15:55
it was mentioned!
@@masonbeck566 the system buged because he unlaped himself when he went in to the pits during sc the fia even said it was no mistake just wtf
How could FIA miss this??
Absolutely not fair!!!
Even the commentary noticed it, but no action had taken 🤬
This weekend had everything man, just a shame it got soured by a bit of bad sportsmanship at the end there but wow, easily the best race weekend of the year, definitely top 3.
I know, right? Silverstone was probably one of my favorites too, but what's your other top 3 race?
@@herakies5495 Mine would be COTA most likely.
Man ppl overblow the max thing is not that relevant lol, hes prob gonna help checo at the end unless he is first ofc
Never was a big fan of Max's attitude, but I understand that these are athletes at the top of their game and sometimes things can come across differently than they're meant, so my respect for him has slowly been building. However after the Checo incident today, that completely reset my respect back to 0.
They don't care what we think about them, so I don't care about it either. That being said, from purely diplomatic POV - Max knows he needs to gel with this guy for at least another season. A season where he will probably have to fend off furious Mercedes out there with a vengeance.
...does he really expect to receive any meaningful support from his teammate after this? And for what? For P5? Just... bizarre...
Max just scored the biggest own-goal imaginable. If the Monaco thing is true, it’s even worse than it looked. I’ve been a huge Max fan, rethinking that now.
Why is it worse if Monaco is true? If anything it makes it a bit less crap.
Later Fair weather fan.. More inexpensive merch for me.
@@suckieduckie because so long ago and obviously unintentional. Max is a selfish child.
@@ThinkmoreLivebetter I'm not so sure about the unintentionally. Have you seen the image with the telemetry? It looks really weird.
Also, just because it's long ago doesn't mean it's any better.
@@suckieduckie it wasn’t good then either. But at least it could be chalked up to excitement over the championship but that’s in the bag now and Max needs to move on like an adult.
Even after Max said in his interview that "he knew they were going to colide but went for anyway, coz it wasn't going to affect his race that much" but people still think Lewis was at fault.
please, i suggest you to listen to the whole interview
@@meghanaf1109 Hamilton is disgusting.
@@meghanaf1109 does the whole interview erase what he said?
@@meghanaf1109 _"To be honest, I went around the outside, and I immediately felt he was not going to leave space. I just went for it, he didn’t leave me space, so I knew we were going to get together. It cost him the race win, for me it gave me five seconds. It wouldn’t have mattered anything for my race, because we were just way too slow."_
The full quote makes it much worse, since it suggests Max did it deliberately to cost Hamilton a win in a race Max wasn't going to win anyway.
@@SIXITHS mate it's a split second decision. While you have adrenaline pumping around your body. While looking through a letterbox.
It was Lewis’ corner, he was half a car lengths ahead, Max was fully aware that the door was closed but barged in anyway. He was fully committed to crashing into Lewis because it was of no consequence to himself & would cost Lewis the win. He admitted that himself. How can anyone defend that? Not a racing incident.
Correction, it wasn’t the best race of the year, it was the best WEEKEND of the year, it’s going to be remembered as the highlight of 2022
Matt and Tom screaming in happiness for the lando safety car was a good highlight.
Yeah... while we McLaren fans are writhing in pain... 😞
@@Johann_Gambolputty_of_Ulm after Danny's and Lando's dumb moves they didn't deserve much more.. 2bh...
On the Max Lewis collision, the only reason max is alongside is because he is going far too fast to make the corner. According the the live telemetry he was going the same speed as Russell at turn in despite being on such a tight line (I know that telemetry isn't perfect and id love to see proper telemetry)
Yeah, what the commentators basically concluded is that overspeeding through a corner (as if driving a top-fuel dragster) and thusly not making the next corner is a-okay, because the driver ahead should have foreseen his wild behaviour and given him space. This commentator logic is braindead.
Regarding Tsunoda: he went into the pits under (I think) the VSC just before it became an SC, so I think he crossed the timing line *just* before George. He was therefore on the lead lap when the SC came out, and had then pitted and so wasn't on the lead lap in the "snake"...
Waited 4 hours only for this keep the work up mates!
Same man.
Looked to me like Max tried to make a move where he didn't have space...his words were 'To be honest, I went around the outside, and I immediately felt he was not going to leave space. I just went for it, he didn’t leave me space, so I knew we were going to get together. It cost him the race win, for me it gave me five seconds. It wouldn’t have mattered anything for my race, because we were just way too slow."
That is insane, that he knew that he didn't have space and went for it anyway...
This is the two of them now. Pretty sure Lewis used the same calculus at Silverstone. Just wasn’t going to give up the corner no matter how hard Max would squeeze him
@@greenlantern7959 Silverstone Hamilton was on the inside. Apples and oranges there, but I guess Max fans can't resist typing Silverstone for everything.
I felt he went to heavy at turn 1 knowing that turn 2 wasn't going to be his anyway. He absolutely bombed it like it was an F1 lobby not thinking where he would be later on the sequence of corners. I think the 5 second penalty is fair
@@hooflord3146 My thoughts exactly. Hamilton was already set for the pack of corners. Verstappen just yeeted the car in the first corner without any racing line. Was a nearly deliberate crash from Verstappen if you ask me. Online lobby worthy.
@@GahDiias insane comment ! Mercedes fans making things up ,read the regulation watch the onboard and come back later !
Absolutely incredible race from george 👏 what a way to take a first win 🏆
I think Max needs a reminder about: Checo is a legend
If people thought the radio message from Max was bad refusing to give back the position, to watch the post race interview where he basically confirms crashing into Lewis was intentional, and sticking two fingers up to Sergio.
Can see RB having a massive issue when it comes to contract negotiations, because they’ve shown Max is bigger than the team with his ego. Whoever ends up in that second seat is basically committing to being a wing man with no hope of competing for the WDC
Max was an ass dont get me wrong. But he still demolished checo this year. Until someone realy fights him for race wins he will be seccond driver.
@@FaithStarCraftHD 2017 Hungarian GP (might not be the year but it’s defo that race) Hamilton in a title fight. Bottas let’s him passed to chase Kimi and Seb in the Ferrari’s, Hamilton doesn’t catch them and allows the pass with Max within a second of Bottas in the final corner to give back the position awarded through team orders.
Max said it dated back to last summer. So it’s clearly a grudge about Monaco. And that’s pathetic, the man literally got gifted a WDC because of Perez last year. He was getting annihilated in Abu Dhabi last year. Perez comes to the rescue. He has won the WDC this year so whats 2 points to him? End of the day there’s still money at stake for WDC positions.
@@zkg156 right like I said max was an ass. But he still demolished perez so perez is second driver
Oh and everyone agrees lewis was in the wrong when they came together even sky news so what are you talking about
"I just went for it, he didn't leave me space so I knew we were going to get together. It cost him the race win, for me 5 seconds. It wouldn't have mattered anyway for my race because we were way too slow." - MAX POST RACE
If I was shown this before the race I would think this was from a f4 post race radio message not from a 2 time f1 champion disgraceful
So? Hamilton left him no space. The penalty was a joke. It was a racing incident if anything.
@@Reaz399 Max went way too fast into that corner. Look at the angle when he was outside Hamilton going into t2. The corner was too steep for him to make and his trajectory would have taken him straight into the racing line for the corner.
@@Reaz399 in that corner you can’t really go off line you will loose time through t3 and the straight and will have very dirty tires
You are clearly biased. Just look at what he says: “He didn’t leave me space”. It takes two to tango. Lewis squeezed him a bit too hard. If it was the other way around, Max would have done the same to Lewis. Penalty for Max was very harsh. So racing incident imo.
I’m a Max fan, but today he dissapointed me by not helping Checo.
Also very strange that Max and Lewis can race other drivers without incidents. But when the pair of the them race against each other, it’s always fireworks. Don’t blame Max, don’t blame Lewis. They just don’t get along and BOTH of them need to get their ego’s sorted out.
Max said it himself after the race that he was not going to back out of that corner with Hamilton!
Yes, because he was ahead of hamilton on the exit of T1
@@de4ds1ghtcsgo94 no he wasnt, lewis was ahead into turn 2. Watch it again.
“To be honest, I went around the outside, and I immediately felt he was not going to leave space. I just went for it, he didn’t leave me space, so I knew we were going to get together. It cost him the race win, for me it gave me five seconds. It wouldn’t have mattered anything for my race, because we were just way too slow.”
Then ham braked late and just sent it. I'm not a gan of either but that was an obvious hamilton penalty
@@danielali8989 he was ahead on the exit and on the approach for T2 Hamilton was able to then gain a very slight advantage. That’s how he meant it
As a Max fan: that was a racing incident
Also as a Max fan: I am no longer a Max fan #Justice4Checo
Glad more people see his true face today
@@dennisyip8618 You do understand that he/she is a merc Lewis fan just trying to stir shit up right?
@@noabakker3848
hmm idk man. I was a fan of his attitude this year as it seemed he’d matured quite a bit. I was not a fan of the way he carried himself today.
Even the way he talk back to his engineer. He responded with an absurd amount of entitlement. It was super cringe.
For about the 6th time in 2 years Max throws it in expecting Lewis to just jump out of the way, the times he doesn't is when they touch.
This was Lewis' fault. He went for the apex while a car was alongside
Max admitted what all drivers have been saying all along. When squeezed he will crash purposely into you.
But when defending he will squeeze and run you off track at every opportunity. Kinda ironic Brazil is where he squeezed Ocon in a similar fashion in 2018 and where he left so much room in 2021.
Thankfully he showed what many suspected all along as well. That's he's not only a terrible racer but also a human being and that to his teamate that literally races for him.
I can’t believe Race Control completely forgot to unlap Tsunoda. I was expecting them to realize their mistake and make the Safety Car go around one more lap to allow Tsunoda to unlap and return to his correct position between the Williams cars, but they just went ahead and restarted the race 😠
If I were Tsunoda I would have unlapped myself regardless
Some said there is a bug in the system. But yeah, they should have aware of that regardless
@@swordsman1137 "forgot" tsunoda was behind the mercs funnily enough. what was worse was the vsc and safety car coming out super late blocking ferrari from a really optimal pitstop, even though lando was on track out of his car. real merc favoritism this race
@@banana-ui2qd yeah this race was all for merc
@@banana-ui2qd so true. Like wtf is taking them so long??
This is why Interlagos should be the final circuit of the season. Almost anything is possible there.
Final race should be a night race no matter what
Correct
@@varunakhoury7449 Brazil better
The start of Max v Perez is on
I mean it’ll just be drama. Perez isn’t really competition. I do think Max should’ve let him by though
Clarification for Max his reason(s) was that he hasn’t forgotten that Checo deliberately crashed in Q3 of monaco gp while max was on a flyer. Onboards and telemetry data proves it. Checo told christian and helmut and thats why there is this “beef” behind closed doors.
Sainz's race IQ is impressive as always. In the last stint he was on the radio discussing Checo's tires and pitstop who was two places up at the time while battling up the field himself. 🤯
Also noticed that every other team congratulated Haas pole on their social media except Ferrari. They just had a bland quali report. Such a soulless organisation.
Cruising to a comfortably social media team championship victory. All aboard the Steinership!
As a lifelong Jenson Button fan, I ended up adopting George as my driver of interest when he first came into F1. I saw similarities in their smooth driving styles although George seems to have more raw speed. It feels very fitting that he won today where Jenson left off back in 2012.
That's a DNF for race rundown, @16:19 says Gasly out of order🤣
I get why Sainz couldn't give the position to Leclerc, as Leclerc had only 1.4 seconds to the car behind. So as the engineer responded, it would be worth it. I also feel Sainz deserved that podium more.
Yes, you also do not ask to take a podium from a teammate.
Ikr! Very embarrassing of charles even Martin was like wtf
That's the thing. Neither of the two (HAM or VER) are willing to give space to each other because of what happened in the past. If you are behind going into a turn and you don't pull back, you are basically forcing a collision. Max apparently said the exact same thing in the post race interviews. He knew he wouldn't be left any space by Lewis but went for it anyways ...
Max definitely has the attitude that he can push cars around on the track but if someone does it to me it's absolutely unacceptable.... It's a shame...
@@Alex-md6bu what do you mean? did he cry or something when hamilton rammed into him? no, he said that he knew that was going to happen with ramilton.
Max his season was clean otherwise. He doesn't crash with Russel, Leclerc or Carlos.
Can't we just enjoy the f1 driving instead of crying about every move?
Let me tell you: moves with crashes are going to happen in every season. Trigger warning.
@@Alex-md6bu you do know that max was defending form checo and just putbraked himself and found himself alongside Lewis.
He made a split second decision which backfired.... It's just racing
@@joshkiej6601 look at incidents where max ran Lewis wide, Saudi 21, intelagos 21, imola 21, max pushed Lewis off the track. Let's look at max diving down the inside lap 1 Abu Dhabi 21, Monza 21, brazil 21, accidents happened when Lewis didn't back out, it's senna esque in that max is basically aiming at other cars and if they back out he overtakes,if the other driver refuses to back out he causes a crash. Max was leaving leclerc space In the early part of the 22 season, something he NEVER does with Hamilton... Comes across as knowing he can't win cleanly so has to fight dirty
Happy George fan here
Good way to end the season with his first ever win
Happy Happy Happy
Also
Pray for Checo and K Mag
The most comedic thing about this race was vettel looked like he was on a mission yet it was stroll who scored points.
I can't begin to imagine what DTS will do with Max no letting Checo by.
I can't begin to imagine what DTS will do with a HAAS pole!
Slow it down to begin with
I’m just happy we have a new hilarious Charles Leclerc quote. “He’s a deek” lmao
This Russell first win feels like Lewis’ first. Dramatic, action packed race. Safety cars, he could’ve easily cracked under the pressure but he kinda cruised and dominated the race.
Things we learn in this season for 2023:
Max ain't getting no defences from Perez anymore
Ferrari should prioritize Sainz
Mercedes will be a powerhouse next year
Holy shit Alonso is a god still but will crash into Stroll 14 times.
And Norris is just phenomenal.
How is Norris phenomenal? He ruined Charles race. He is the most overrated driver on the grid rn
@@linkinparkkiro I said this "Season" not this race, And how is he not phenomenal? Dude carried Mclaren all by himself how is he overrated, he is fighting Alonso and Ocon 😂
@@andrejaques Just because Danny Ric is shit doesn't mean that Norris is phenomenal. Remember that the dude bottled his first win last year in Russia, because he is still a child. Lando has a lot more to mature still. He has the speed but not the maturity yet.
@@linkinparkkiro cmon man the dude rarely does mistakes 😂 yes In Rússia he kinda blew his chance, but it was his 3rd year in F1!
I share your interest in what the hell is Latifi doing during a race. LOL
For the HAM and VER incident, I think Max should've waites a few more corners to launch his move or at least lift the throttle once he didn't get the move done
Impatience got to him... he went for the impossible gap though I would have ruled it a race incident.
What about Brazil 2019 tho? It’s the same but more space was left.
It's really interesting to see how each social media platform has a different view on this. Insta is going crazy with Hamilton blame whilst Twitter tends to favour Lewis a bit more in this particular incident as well as UA-cam. Very interesting to see.
But VER didn’t so it was a racing incident. VER took his penalty. Since the wheel hubs are regulated and HAM lost his in the incident to be fair I wondered why HAM didn’t get a penalty as well.
Since when max have the word “patient” in his dictionary? Ha! what a horrible, arrogant & aggressive driver he is no matter what.🙄👎🏼
His max D-riding is insane!
WTF are you on about, Verstappen literally admitted taking out Lewis in his post race interview Matt.
My heart 💔 Checo looked so sad
Good luck to Max trying to get any teammate to help.
Well I mean he has a pretty damn good reason to be pissed at checo
This was definitely a great race but I think the title of best goes to Silverstone, that Sunday was WILD.
Nah that incident was the typical Max “yield or we’ll crash” driving style. Lewis calls his bluff but just think about how many times Lewis has had to back out when being squeezed by Max. On top of all that, for Max to come out and say “To be honest, I went around the outside, and I immediately felt he was not going to leave space. I just went for it, he didn’t leave me space, so I knew we were going to get together.” That’s exactly why he deserved the penalty. Lets not forget on the same corner 4 years ago Ocon got a 10 Second Penalty for doing exactly what Max did.
Max admitted he crashed into Lewis on purpose then said don't ever ask him to let his teammate past him.
Hes such a spoiled bear, his dad and Horner are the reason he feels the world owes him everything.
We all know Max wouldn't leave him space if the situation was in reverse, plus why leave space for him ? Because he is Max ? He is ruthless on the track plus he has a poor sportsmanship and he showed it again today
Seemed to make the same corners with George yesterday. 🤷♂️
Max genuinely always leaves space when driving on the outside, (look Japan 2018, Silverstone and Monza t1 last year off the top of my head).
Nail, head. Lewis and Max both get the red mist when driving near each other. Both can race anybody else cleanly. So it's obviously not one driver to blame. Lewis also suddenly blatantly moved under braking last race because it was Max behind him, something he wouldn't do to anybody else. Conveniently completely ignored by the FIA because there was no contact.
“Can we put Russel in the same category as Leclerc?”
He has been there for a while….
Riiiiight... did George get up there before or after ramming half the grid into retirement and claiming it was never ever his fault?
@@illbeV yea riiiiighttt! You have a more competitive car for most part of the season and yet you screw up or your team screws you and then cry like a baby and beg for a podium in radio shows real character of a champion!!!🙄
Realistically max was always going to go into the side of Hamilton at t2 regardless of how much space he’d been given due to how tight onto the inside he was. He was always going to drift wide.
Yeah exactly, even if lewis had left more room, max would have run completely off the track due to how tight he took that corner.
@@jamesc6924 Lewis took t1 just as tight as Verstappen did, and he made the corner until he on purpose went wide and pushed VER off
@@DutchGamingPieces that’s just isn’t true tho is it lad. Hamilton was on the racing line in t1 and the only reason ver was ahead for a tiny moment was because he broke much later and tried to pull off a miracle move around the outside, but he didn’t.
@@DutchGamingPieces _"To be honest, I went around the outside, and I immediately felt he was not going to leave space. I just went for it, he didn’t leave me space, so I knew we were going to get together. It cost him the race win, for me it gave me five seconds. It wouldn’t have mattered anything for my race, because we were just way too slow."_
Verstappen admitted he crashed into Hamilton in a post-race interview. You should have checked what the party line from Red Bull was before posting your nonsense...
And do you think that Ocon was unfairly punished after Max and Ocon collided in the exact same corner a few years back?
Hamilton CLEARLY turned into Verstappen. What did Hamilton even think would happen when aiming for an apex that already had another car on it??? Coming into turn 2, Max was all the way to the inside already so where else should he have gone in that moment? Lewis literally had all the space, but decided to try and force Verstappen either off the track or into slamming the brakes mid-corner. Sure he was like a meter in front at that point, but that doesn't legitimize a move like that. Max couldn't even have reacted to what Lewis was doing by the time he was already all over him.
Amazing, feel good race and quite the learning experience. Not surprised to see Max in a crash now that nothing matters but how can he not let Perez through after everything Sergio has done over the last 2 seasons. Also WTF from Leclerc. Yeah you're not taking a free podium off your teammate. How entitled can you get?
I’ve always felt there was something off with Max his personality today. Just cemented that for me. That radio sounds like he’ll never give up a position. I told you that last year that’s a piece of work. It’s a team sport.
It's not a team sport at redbull. It's a max team through and through.
Danny Ric left for good reason
you don't give up positions in racing!!! its called racing NOT PASSING So tired of team orders to let people through. Checo blocked for Max he sure wasn't letting him pass! Checo himself said he'd rather earn it then gets mad when he has to!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@johnbenoy7532 Ricciardo left because he was a slow loser.
@@accordia79 pfff.sosome clearly didn't watch the whole of last season and some of this season.
Or they were braindead while doing so. Either or
Max and Lewis collision gave me Ocon an Max vibes. And I really find it funny that many wanted a penalty for lewis here when with a similar incident the wanted a penalty for the inside driver. I know its not exactly the same bcs lapping and stuff but still.
Can we all agree, best weekend as a whole of the season. Best quali, best sprint, best race
Charles imo has taken a genuine confidence hit. I hope along with Mercedes coming up 2023 there will be a 4 way battle between Lewis George Max and Charles
I think the max penalty was a bit harsh for the move itself but it seemed it was the FIA finally doing something about that do or die move that he loves to pull off and blame other drivers for, fair enough go for the gap but forcing the other driver to give you more space if not there will be contact isn't good racing and it being against Hamilton again, glad something was done. His comments after the race also show he had remorse for doing that