Response To Mohammed Hijab & Bro Hajji: Is There An Ijma On Rebellion? - Ustadh Abdurrahman Hassan

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  • @ibmsulaymani
    @ibmsulaymani  3 роки тому +23

    Our objective is to reconcile the hearts of the muslims upon what is pleasing to Allah, but these people are acting as if they’re people of knowledge and passing fatawa to the english speaking world. I’m happy that Mohammed Hijab has made his position clear on this matter, let’s see how they respond to Ustadh Abdurrahman Hassan’s point. Here are some of the scholars mentioned:
    - Ahmad Ibn Hanbal (164-241H)
    - Ali Ibn Al Madini (161-234H)
    - Abu Hatim Al Razi (195-277H)
    - Abu Zur’at Al Razi (193-264H)
    - Harb Ibn Ismail Al Kirmani (190-280H)
    - Abu Uthman Al Sabooni (373-449H)
    - Ismail Ibn Yahya Al Muzani (175-264H)
    - Ibn Abi Zayd Al Qayrawani (310-386H)
    - Ibn Battal Al Maliki (Died 449)
    - Ibn Qudama Al Maqdisi (541-620H)
    - Yahya Ibn Sharaf Al Nawawi (631-676H)
    - Shaykh Al Islam Ibn Taymiyya (661-728H)
    - Muhammad Ibn Ismail Al Bukhari (194-256H)
    - Abu Ja’far Al Tahawi (239-321H)
    - Abu Bakr Al Athram (Died 273H)
    - Abu Bakr Al Ismaili (277-371H)
    - Ibn Battah Al Ukbari (304-387H)
    - Ibn Al Mundhir (241-318H)
    - Ibn Al Qattan Al Faasi (562-628H)
    - Ibn Al Qayyim (691-751H)
    - Ibn Abdul Barr (368-463H)
    - Shamsudeen Al Ramli (919-1004H)
    - Shamsudeen Al Dhahabi (673-748H)
    - Abu Bakr Al Ajurry (280-360H)
    - Al Husayn Ibn Ali Al Barbahari (253-329H)
    - Abul Qaasim Al Lalaka’ee (Died 418H)
    - Abul Qaasim Al Taymi (457-535H)
    - Abul Hassan Al Ash’ari (260-324H)

    • @RRUU198
      @RRUU198 3 роки тому +11

      Idk how you pull together these responses so quickly - you are very underrated for this skill mashallah ,

    • @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543
      @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 3 роки тому +2

      M. Hijab is mislead/liar ikwani. Proved in hadith, Alhamdulilah, Prophet peace & blessings on him said those who rebel on Muslim rulers are kariji dogs + **ijma Sahaba**, There were 2 Baya'a & Kawarij was the 3rd group who left the baya in the hadith (below). Ijma Sahaba is Ijma. Hasan united them.
      Abu Sa'id al-Khudri reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ peace and blessings be upon him) as saying:
      **There would be two groups (bayas) in my Ummah, and there would emerge another group (Kawarij** - seceding itself from both of them), and the party nearer to the truth (Ali) among the two would k*ll them (the group of the Khawarij).
      - Sahih Muslim 1065, Book of Zakat
      Plus in the hadith above (Muslim book of Zakat 1065) it says My Ummah will be 2 groups... - this shows the Quran 4 : 80 -ish ayat applies, it was 2 Muslim groups, not kuruj.
      Ali was governor of Iraq and Mu'awiyah was governor of Syria, after the assassination of Uthman, both took Baya were legitimate rulers though Hadith shows one was closer to truth (Ali).
      Additional point there should be one baya in each area, and one for overall Ummah :
      'Arfaja who said:
      I heard the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ peace and blessings be upon him) say:
      **When you are holding to one single man as your leader, you should k*ll who seeks to undermine your solidarity or disrupt your unity.**
      Sahih Muslim 1852, Book of Gov't.
      **Ibn Abbas when faced with the Kawarij said there is no Sahaba Among you...** - Al Hakim Mustadark 2/163 , also in : Islamic Aqidah & it's history , by Muhammad Aman al Jami.
      - **So in conclusion, you Mr. Hijab are wrong, there is Ijma,** Sahabas Radiyallahu anhum had it, no Kuruj what so ever, the blame is put on the third group based on their actions, with no Sahaba read Ibn Taymiya.:
      "**The companions on the day of jamal did not intend to fight** h/e fighting took place without their choice. When Ali, Talha zubayr were exchanging messages with each other, they intended an agreement for the overall benefit. And if they were to become consolidated, they would then seek the punishment upon the ones that k*lled Uthman, ppl of fitnah.
      The k*llers of Uthman feared that Ali would make an agreement and apprehend the k*llers **so they in turn attacked instigated the two parties** and in turn Ali thinking they were attacking him so he attacked them defending so then the battle took place without their choice.
      - Minhaj us Sunnah 2 /185!

    • @ibmsulaymani
      @ibmsulaymani  3 роки тому +3

      @@bacteria5184 So Imam Al Bukhari, Ali Ibn Al Madini, Ahmad Ibn Hanbal & Ismail Al Muzani all had a neo-salafi agenda according to you? Well done.

    • @ibmsulaymani
      @ibmsulaymani  3 роки тому +3

      @@bacteria5184 26:50 The sahaba made tabdee’ on a group of people because they rebelled against their ruler. There was an ijma after the fitna of Ibn Al Ash’ath that rebellion against an oppressive ruler is haram. If you deny this, then you need to show why Bukhari was wrong when he stated an ijma of 1000 scholars of his his time.

    • @ibmsulaymani
      @ibmsulaymani  3 роки тому +6

      This ijma affirmed by over 33 scholars by name. Imam Al Bukhari affirmed an ijma over 1000 scholars of his time, either prove why he’s wrong or stop waffling.

  • @shahrezzahid7919
    @shahrezzahid7919 3 роки тому +40

    Q: What is common between Mohammed hijab, ali dawah, bro Khariji?
    A: They have not studied under scholars. In fact, they ridicule scholars.

    • @RRUU198
      @RRUU198 3 роки тому

      This is one of the best comments someone’s written

    • @sajidmahmood4238
      @sajidmahmood4238 3 роки тому +8

      These lost individuals are not even students of knowledge, the way they speak it’s as if they are renowned scholars
      May Allah subhanawatallah guide them and us all

    • @أبوشغل
      @أبوشغل 3 роки тому +2

      @@Reminders102 "they just want fame & status."
      How do you know this? We can't speak about the intentions of others. We refute their falsehood and leave it there.

    • @abcdzxcd
      @abcdzxcd 3 роки тому +1

      @@أبوشغل That's true, it;s more better to take the comment regarding their intention because it can be that they are sincere but lack of knowledge got a better hold of them. Everyone of us may fall into errors, try to bring muslim back to the straight path, pointing at their intention might push them even far from truth . Imagine they were sincere and due to jahl this error happened and they saw such comment which they know it's false that they themself don't want fame and they might reject the whole message together of this. I hope brother AMaan got the point I'm trying to say. MAy Allah guide us all,

    • @dizzyinfo
      @dizzyinfo 3 роки тому +1

      what happened, he said bring me one sahaba who rebelled.....address that issue first

  • @IbrahimKhalil-bt9yh
    @IbrahimKhalil-bt9yh 3 роки тому +26

    An athari that rejects athar and a hanbali that reject Imam Ahmad such a matchmade posse

    • @Bulayla1426
      @Bulayla1426 3 роки тому +4

      Lmaoooo

    • @IbrahimKhalil-bt9yh
      @IbrahimKhalil-bt9yh 3 роки тому +2

      @@Bulayla1426 yeah habibi it's not easy to deal with a deobandi, athari, ashari, salafi and a political philosopher. The chain of these people are so strange, one of them loves mufti abu khabeeth and the other seemingly hates him, but yet both of them hugging and smiling.
      Beware, this is what ikhwanism 2.0 will do and fry the brain of a muslim

    • @Ha_shah
      @Ha_shah 3 роки тому +2

      😂😂😂

    • @Bulayla1426
      @Bulayla1426 3 роки тому +6

      @@IbrahimKhalil-bt9yh ikhwanism replacing islamic values with the Dunya since jamal afghaani

    • @IbrahimKhalil-bt9yh
      @IbrahimKhalil-bt9yh 3 роки тому +4

      @@Bulayla1426 saheeh, you are aware that jamalud deen al afghani was a masonic ismaili?

  • @Bulayla1426
    @Bulayla1426 3 роки тому +28

    It's strange when hajji is relying on Mohammed hijab yet ustadh abdurrahman hasan Is much more knowledgeable
    Allahumabaarik
    Mashallah

    • @IbrahimKhalil-bt9yh
      @IbrahimKhalil-bt9yh 3 роки тому +4

      Akhi it's not strange at all that hajji appoints an ikhwani to referee the matter. Both of them love Himar Dewdew

    • @ibrahimbilal6273
      @ibrahimbilal6273 3 роки тому

      Because MH is praising BH work that’s why

    • @أبوشغل
      @أبوشغل 3 роки тому +1

      @@IbrahimKhalil-bt9yh There is no need to call dadu a donkey. This is bad manners. Just stick to refuting the views without mocking the person.

    • @IbrahimKhalil-bt9yh
      @IbrahimKhalil-bt9yh 3 роки тому +1

      @@أبوشغل
      are you aware that the term himar is from the Quran? As well is dogs, you know that Rasulullahﷺ referred to khawarij as dogs pf the hellfire? So when I'm calling someone a donkey it's in the context that Allah revealed the ayah.
      Do you consider Himar Dewdew an innovator and do you hate him for the sake of Allah?

    • @Bulayla1426
      @Bulayla1426 3 роки тому +1

      @@bacteria5184 evidences that andurrahmna hasan refuted in the 14 hr podcadt

  • @sajidmahmood4238
    @sajidmahmood4238 3 роки тому +20

    Muhammad hijab always has his own position, his own opinion
    This is very dangerous, a lot of layman take this on board and follow his opinion and his position

    • @MasterNinja786
      @MasterNinja786 3 роки тому +10

      i am a layman but i follow Abdurrahman Hassan, tim humble, Usman ibn farooq and Abu Mussab Wajdi Akkari

    • @sajidmahmood4238
      @sajidmahmood4238 3 роки тому +1

      @@MasterNinja786
      👍🏼 quran and sunnah

    • @ibmsulaymani
      @ibmsulaymani  3 роки тому +16

      @@MasterNinja786 May Allah preserve all of those du’at you mentioned.

    • @safiasaleh7322
      @safiasaleh7322 3 роки тому +1

      @@MasterNinja786 me too. May Allah preserve and bless them all. MH has a large following. It seems to have gone to his head.

    • @sajidmahmood4238
      @sajidmahmood4238 3 роки тому

      @@MasterNinja786 maybe the word taqlid was more appropriate

  • @abumaalik9272
    @abumaalik9272 3 роки тому +3

    Excellent akhi, may Allah grant you tawfiq

  • @letsniqab
    @letsniqab 3 роки тому +2

    I don't know but if one is a self-proclaimed da'ee/theological refuter/debater (all supposedly fissibilillah) and I leave my residence in a red tank top and an awkward satchel, that really gives so much away. Forget about my public manner being turned into a spitting and cussing meme.

  • @abumaalik9272
    @abumaalik9272 3 роки тому +2

    They contradicted themselves in this video. They said the asl is to have sabr, but then after the ulema will look at the masalih and mafasid. This is a major contradiction because those who say have sabr believe khurooj is haram, and those who say look at masalih and mafasid believe khurooj is permissible. So to combine the two views together is clear confusion and ignorance.

    • @abumaalik9272
      @abumaalik9272 3 роки тому

      @Fisabilillah فِي سَبِيلِ ٱللَّٰهِ clarify what I missed bro? One point he says the asl is it's haram, then later on in the original vid he says it's a matter of mana'ah and shawkah. Check his original vid

  • @MohammedAlSharif2002
    @MohammedAlSharif2002 3 роки тому +5

    May Allah bless you.

  • @bigwpg204
    @bigwpg204 3 роки тому +1

    whoever put this as response is wrong this was done before speakers corner in the park

  • @Nima-ec4tr
    @Nima-ec4tr 2 роки тому

    why i fell so sorry for bro hajji

  • @absaralbani7069
    @absaralbani7069 3 роки тому

    Brother can put in the description the link of video of ustadh Abdurrahman hassan.

  • @salafisolutions5839
    @salafisolutions5839 3 роки тому +2

    Guys mohammed hijab has an opinion on this, let's all drop the daleel and make taqleed on him.
    Like ok bro no one cares about your opinion where is your evidences 😭🤣

    • @WU-HU-XI-LIAN-DA_STRIKE
      @WU-HU-XI-LIAN-DA_STRIKE Рік тому

      THE SALAF CALLED THE ONE WHO REBELS AGAINST THE MUSLIM RULER AN INNOVATOR DONT YOU UNDERSTAND? Hijab is a dirty lying innovator who has no clue of the salaf. IT IS HARAM TO STAY SILENT AGAINST A DEVIANT WHO ATTACKS THE SUNNAH 24/7 LIKE HIM

  • @londonitv902
    @londonitv902 3 роки тому

    UAR the yazeed lover

    • @ibmsulaymani
      @ibmsulaymani  3 роки тому +3

      More baseless slander which you’ll have to answer for

    • @londonitv902
      @londonitv902 3 роки тому

      @@ibmsulaymani UAR said in a hes not for or against yazeed on camera. its on youtube. what you mean u not against yazeed! every muslim is against yazeed for killing hussain (ra). what kind of belive is that!!!! know the facts before u make baseless comments

    • @ibmsulaymani
      @ibmsulaymani  3 роки тому +2

      @@londonitv902 Doesn’t mean he loves Yazeed