Painting Ugly & more - Ep.7 Oil Painting Q&A with Mark Carder
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- Опубліковано 13 чер 2024
- If you have a question for me, post it in the comments below. I'll answer as many as I can on next Thursday's episode. Here are links to each question answered in this video:
00:14 - a lesson about "painting ugly" and the importance of stepping back when analyzing your work
08:07 - Can the Geneva palette be used to mix very dark black skin? And can you upload more of your paintings online?
10:19 - Why do you stain your canvas with fast-drying white and burnt umber instead of using a turpentine wash?
11:23 - Is there any significance to the position of the white and brown on your color wheel?
12:57 - What do you think of Leonardo da Vinci's paintings?
16:04 - Have you ever painted wet over dry? Where it was not possible, practical, or simple enough to paint wet on wet?
17:30 - Will you offer the option of purchasing Geneva colors without the oil of cloves being added for people who want their paint to dry quickly?
19:26 - You teach using a limited palette to create an extensive palette of color groups, but this seems like it could create certain problems, like wasting paint or having to remix colors you run out of. What are your thoughts on these issues?
I just have to tell you I've been studying art my whole life - in between making a living and raising a family - and I have learned more in the few weeks since I discovered you on UA-cam and on your website than in all the classes and workshops of the past 50 years combined. I am overwhelmed and so grateful you can't imagine. You are the answer to a prayer, and I will continue to go through your classes and videos. What a wonderful service you have given us. Thank you.
I so agree Martha Slater.
This same here
I agree. Mark’s generosity in sharing is really appreciated.
Painting "ugly" best advice ever
Fully agree!!
You just have to get those values right!
I always paint ugly, and the paintings remain ugly 😫😲
Oh my god finally someone mentions Repin, I love him so so much!!
The thing I struggle with most is not picking the hell out of a painting and smoothing everything within an inch of its life. I’m really trying to break myself of that habit. These videos are really helpful.
I just found your channel and have learned so much about letting go, backing up, and not agonizing over the minute details. It has been very freeing to realize that there is so much more to painting than tiny brush strokes.
I love watching these videos in the morning when I am sketching, they help me feel like I am in a classroom environment, even though I'm actually alone in the basement!
im 8 minutes in and the way i look at paintings has been completely changed
Morandi the master of painting ugly, his compositions are the most beautiful thing ever, and I love how he resolves everything in the eye and not in the shape.
Ugly paintings are absolutely beautiful!
For the gentleman who asked about excess waste paint: Put it aside in a jar and mix it all up and keep sealed tight in freezer or under layer of water. The greige neutral produced is a perfect choice for an underpainting or all over underlayer...
Thank you so much for helping me with colour theory. You are the most generous person. Was totally lost Now thanks to you I slowly see some hope
I'm loving these videos.
Very well made and full of useful insights.
PS: amazing portrait by Klimt
Great lesson, thanks for sharing. These are so helpful.
Only great painters know what the eyes want to see. It takes a combination of audacity and finesse. At some point a painter has to ask himself whether he's going to be an artist or a copy machine. Either way, I've recently purchased a set of your oils and I look forward to putting them to work. I've been on an artistic hiatus for longer than I want to admit and I'd like to thank you and your videos for pushing me back into place.
I have gotten so many answers to my question marks through your videos. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
thank you mark for the amazing site and free videos...great valuableinformation
This video is gold!
Great lesson!
Thanks so much.
I learn so much from you. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
You always give great advice..thanks Mark
Excellent examples of paintings and artist work. Thank you.
Thanks Mark, I am starting to really look forward to Thursdays (actually it's Fridays where I live). Another great lesson!
Another grreat lesson! Thanks so much for putting words into an idea that has been brewing in my mind. Got it!
you & your teachings are a master piece!
That's how our world is. To see its beauty, you have to zoom out.
This video is exactly what I needed. Thank you!!!
Thank you Mark for all your teaching! I learned so much ! your palette is my workhorse and it was nice to find this and learn about the essential palette . now my focus can move to other things.
I enjoy your videos. Good job! I finally learned a few years ago, that in painting on my easel, I needed to frequently step back and get it in my mind what 'viewing distance' was providing. And for me, it made world of difference.
Learn so much from this chap.
Thank you , your advice is awesome x
You cover absolutely everything! I have read so much and studied art for years and I am still learning so much more through your videos. So full of insights that come through a long experience of painting. Thank you
Thank you for all the valuable information, I admire you so much!!
Fantastic advice! Thanks!
I totally agree with you about learning to mix your own colors. My first art teacher who was a wonderful artist and an extreme realist (he used to do the illustrations for Life Magazine when they would have special editions on historic events...such as the Russian Revolution.) and he started me out with a very limited palette. I don't think it was quite as limited, but nevertheless, you are really learning to paint when you miix all your own colors. Thanks Mark.
Hi you just mentioned something so real for me...and it's about the technique that's working in every field..no just art....and it's it's the practice... constantly.. practice and focusing in what you doing... I heard a sentence from my grandpa.."practice make a Master". ...if you doing the same everyday for sure you gonna master and found your flow... observations self critique it's gonna help you to improve your art work... thanks for a brilliant and nice classes...
After I learned about values, this has helped how people expressed how they saw more vibrancy in my paintings. Thanks Mark, you help in so many ways.
Thank You! Great lesson!!
Great lesson on ugly painting!
Love the way you communicate your thoughts. You're a wonderful teacher!
Thanks for teaching us what is real, at least in painting.
This video us incredibly correct!! Thanks very much.
Thanks Mark, inspiring lesson.
Just discovered your channel. Loving it. Thank you for your service to the art community.
Dear Mark, I would like to thank you for your time, You are doing an excelent job. thanks a lot, Yoni.
Very inspiring to listen to your art talks
Excellent tutorial.
Am really learning so much. Thank you.
Awesome channel, Mark. Arkhipov's work is brilliant. I need to look into some more of his work because it may be some of the best I've seen yet. His colors are absolutely stunning.
simply amazing
..excellent lesson
I am inspired, motivated and educated at the same time. Thank you.
P.s. Thanks for introducing me to Abram Efimovich Arkhipov. Can’t get enough of him.
I appreciate your reply so very much. I dearly want Geneva paints and look forward to being able to have them shipped to New Zealand before I get brain damage hahaha. Thanks again. Your advice is gold.
I was really struggling with making the work look good up close - thanks for this
Love this video!!!thank you!!
Learning alot. Thank you
Thank you again.
Thank you so very much for your insight and knowledge. Very valuable and I will be ordering something from your website simply for your effort to help us.
I love love love looking at brush strokes up close and it truly is amazing that these jigsaw undetermined brush strokes eventually become a beautiful thing from afar. But is it just smoke and mirrors with color? A magic show with paint?
Great to see the Streeton :)
Great teaching, great advice, an inspiration, a great realization. Awesome! I am learning a lot from you. I would like to look into your page and see if I can purchase some of your material. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us. I am very grateful. Blessings in your life.
I love all those guys but I love Holbein too.
Oh, hi, anyhow, Mark, i still like you, didnt know you have a youtube channel, but i love you for sharing youre knowledge.
I dont paint anymore and i dont really know why, but i saw youre paintings and was so excited about what i saw and you made me and showed me how to paint and now i have about 20 paintings and my wall that i really like. Hope you all are well and god bless you. TY. Oh sorry i forgot, if you like to know, my forum name was iwillpaint. Loved the forum and hope all are well. Now lemme watch the video to the end please. XD
Ooo I ❤️ 💕 💗 this guy. 😍😍
Very interesting...
hugely interesting, inspiring and entertaining....thank you Mark.
Hello Mark, I have the tendency of trying too many painting and drawing techniques. So it's hard to narrow down what style I want to pursue. Have you ever had this problem? If so, how have you disciplined yourself to stick to your method?
I understand what your saying 100%! I have struggled with it I don’t like hyper realism I have some that I done.
You sir are a blessing to the art world!
May I ask you to talk a bit about Caravaggio please?
In other words your “value studied” is of utmost!
Thank you
Thanks!
Your lessons are invaluable! Can’t thank you enough! God bless.
The Holbein painting is of a merchant of the steelyard. A German ghetto. It was painted before Thomas more introduced Holbein to the royal court
What you call painting ugly is impressionism and its my favorite style and shows a mood or feeling and the artist has left something of his or her self on the canvas more than hyper realism that is a skill not a feeling . If you want something that looks like a photo then take one . Just my thoughts .
I can't agree with you more on you're view of photo/hyper realism.
MINE RAT PRODUCTIONS Velazquez, Rembrandt and Titian were not Impressionists.
Carpophage : Who said they where ?
MINE RAT PRODUCTIONS You did by stating that "painting ugly" is Impressionism. Velazquez, Rembrandt and Titian "painted ugly" but weren't Impressionists. Understand the logic?
You think they fall into that category of ' painting ugly " ?
This reminds me of when I was a child being frustrated by not being able to paint a nose on a prorate. I gave up in the end and just painted the shadow of the nose and a bit of reflection on the tip. When I looked from thirty feet away I was staggered by the appearance of the nose yet as you say from two feet away there wasn't even a nose there.
Thanks Alex,
I think I was using the oil paint far too thickly,I was shovelling it on,so will go back and be more frugal with it.
Will get back to you after my next effort.
I’m very good in painting ugly :D
No blending is correct. But I don’t think he likes other styles other than Realism, such as Impressionism, Cubism, Fauvism etc. This video is just for beginners to form a good habit of painting.
A suggestion on the wasted paint issue. When my paint begins to increase in viscosity I remove from the palette and combine it with the colors that are in the same condition. I thin the amalgam with a bit of turpentine, then put it in a tube. Even though these are random mixes, they are very useful in future works. I only do this if there is perhaps 10ml or more paint.
Mark, Fridays are the day I look most forward to now because your new Q&A will be out! Thank you for doing this as I am so inspired to take my art to the next level you speak of......no more over blending and getting my values right. My question is concerning the white. I have a huge tube of Permalba white with Safflower Oil as the vehicle. I read on the DMP forum that the white we use with your slow dry medium needs to be Lindseed oil as the medium. I bought some. But if I use the Permalba with Safflower oil in the toning of the canvas brown.........and it dries. Will that be OK for me to then use paint with Lindseed oil on top for my painting? Thanks Mark for all the things you do to help us paint realism. Roena
Roena King Yes, that's fine. Safflower whites are fine, I just personally prefer linseed oil based whites because they form stronger paint films.
This video has opened my mind to the modern realism with awesome examples and information. I admire the wet in wet masters and try to paint this way but I dislike it thoroughly. I love wet on dry painting an feel very attracted to the works of Holbein and old dutch masters and I try to apply their approach, conscious about this anachronism.. I do not sell my paints therefore waiting time for the dying is not a issue. My question - would do you still recommend the Geneva Paints for painting wet on dry with delicate brushwork, eventually in glazes? In this case, should I add more oil or solvents ( I hope not!) to the paint? Perhaps you have already mentioned this point here, excuse me if this are repetitive questions. Best greetings and thank you.
How did the old masters achieve the soft subtle reds & blues in their portraits and figures? When I try to apply red & blue glazes on my dried flesh tones, my glazes are too rich in chroma - creating a very unnatural look. Could you break down the glazing techniques of the old masters in how they were able to apply those soft blues & reds?Thank you Mark for keeping the traditions of classical oil painting alive with all your informative videos.
7 years old video, still very relevant :-)
Rieally enjoy your vedio look forward to them every week. I have been cleaning my oil brushes with murphy oil is that ok? What size photo do you use in painting portraits? Thanks!
two quick points- a great tip i learned from peterson (photography), which goes right along with what you teach about subtleties, is to try to avoid what he calls 'crying babies' - something that 'isn't right' (whether tonal values, hue, chroma or whatever, that stands out like a 'sore thumb'- and immediately draw your attention to them- they 'command you attention' (like a crying baby would)- it could be anything, like going too abruptly from bright light into shadows- the values being all wrong- color clashes that just don't work, highlights that are too large and far too bright and detracts from overall work- etc- If we can learn to spot them and fix them, it will help a lot- Second, i have terrible problems with values and hues- I've seen paintings done in very wild colors, but they 'looked right' because the values and hues were 'correct'- One thing I've picked up from you which is very valuable (I've only just started watching your videos) is to tone it down- our minds try to 'paint too light, and too dark' in an effort to try to 'increase contrast'- or to 'make htings pop' like highlights- or, drawing lines where they should just melt into the painting instead- I'm very guilty of this- So much to learn, so little time to learn it :( - looking forward to more videos from you- very informative- and i love the 'paint ugly' teaching- I would love to do this- but obsess over blending unfortunately- I'm trying to break myself of the awful habit by doing digi 'paintings' in artrage so i can just keep trying different methods of laying down the paint- but it's still hard-
What kind of pencil do you use to draw your subjects on the toned canvas?
I need to buy your Geneva paints. The listed palatte approach has really helped my work. Question. When you're doing finer work like hair..how to you get the dam paint to flow wet on wet? Am I using crappy brushes? I wash them with soap and water..is there a better way?
There is not better artist who does the ugly realism better than Jeffrey Catherine Jones.
Hi Mark, thanks for the useful videos! I'm wondering what your thoughts are on oil painting en plein air and possibly painting in small sizes like 4x7 inch or so. Would you recommend beginners to do this? I like this type of smaller oil work like very realistic still life's done by Youqing Wang and am looking into trying small sized oil paintings myself. You might wonder why, but as painting is a hobby and not my job I tend to have extremely limited time. Yet I feel oil painting is arguably the easiest medium I've used so far. I also enjoy watercolour painting because it is quick. Do you do small size studies in preparation for bigger paintings or just as practice?
I began oil painting at 7. I learned to tint canvas and do underpainting by thinning with turps or mineral spirits. I am now in my 70's and very intolerant to those solvents. I now use oils for cleaning in various containers and paint with walnut oil. Will I be breaking the fat over lean rule if I thin my underpainting with oil instead of a chemical thinner? If so do you have any recommendations? I love your knowledge and your kind sharing of it.
I really love your videos,and am following your advice,painting ugly,single strokes,no fiddling etc,and seeing real progress,but I only work in acrylics.Do you ever use acrylics? I tried oils and it was taking 8 months for the paintings to dry,ha!
Cathy Serafinowicz I wonder if maybe it was the paint you were using, or the medium? I've been oil painting for 4 years, using paint straight from the tube and just a tiny bit of linseed oil as needed, and all of my paintings have taken about a week or two to dry. I found using firm brushes with just a bit if give helped as well. there are also oil mediums that can speed the dry time!
I love working wet in wet - and it sounds really Logic to put in the Clove oil to make everything open for about a week - but I also like to work alla prima and using palet knife - and I wonder whether Geneva paint is too " soft" ?
Do you have a video up on how to paint from start to finish such as the basics of painting? Just Wondering.
I have been watching some of your videos and wondering how one decides what to paint in the background of a portrait. Are there some rules or guidance one should follow?
you add stand oil when doing a glacis and if so how much or do you dilute with a thinner? Can you do a glacis on already wet on wet paint which is dry?
I am using Holbein water-mixable paint right now, but I have to add a lot of medium to make it usable for alla prima. Therefore, I am considering to switch to Geneva paint because it looks like I can paint straightway out of the tube. However, can you elaborate about the downsides of water-mixable oil paint? Or maybe you can recommend some of your videos on this topic?
WHEN I HAVE PAINT OVER, I COVER IT WITH CLING WRAP AND PRESS IT DOWN GENTLY.. THIS KEEPS IT SOFT FOR A DAY OR TWO.
Hi Mark, I recently was accepted into the BFA program at my college in Florida, and my studio will be closed for the rest of the summer until I re-enroll into the fall semester. Unfortunately I'm unable to paint in my apartment at the moment, so my brushes and oils are at the studio right now. What would you recommend as the best supplementary exercise to enhance painting skills when your not actually painting, such as full value drawings, line drawings, photography, sculpture, etc.?
Hello Mark. I have watched just about all your videos, and you have been tremendous help. I know I have a lot of questions to ask, but I am just going to ask one question. Your limited palette consists of 5 colors that allow you to paint 99% of all colors that exist in real life. The colors that you choose allow you to do so, but you avoid colors (like cadmium red) in your limited palette because it is so overpowering. Thomas Baker is another great artist on UA-cam, and he uses 6 colors to make his color charts (cadmium red, cadmium orange, cadmium yellow, ultramarine blue, viridian green, and manganese violet.) Thomas Baker uses strong colors like cadmium red in his limited palette. I know the both of you have different methods of painting, but is there an advantage to using one palette over the other? Thank you
Is scumbling done wet on wet or when the subsequent layers are dry? When applying a glaze for example - if one wants to brighten a certain area after applying a glaze, would scumbling be done while the glaze is wet?
They say Rembrandt once said" my paintings are to be looked at not to smell.