Grading Qo'noS From Star Trek On It's Scientific Realism
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- Опубліковано 24 гру 2022
- In this video, I pull back the curtain on the emerald-green planet Qo'noS (pronounced as Kronos), the mysterious homeworld of Starfleet's favorite frenemies, the Klingons.
00:00 - Introduction to Qo'noS
00:00 - Grading The Planet
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“There is no realistic way klingons could even produce that much energy.”
I recall a scene from the original series where the Enterprise used its weapons systems to vaporize a mountain range. Not blow up, VAPORIZE as in it was completely gone.
Between replicators, teleportation, and time travel; star trek treats its technology more like magic than anything else.
Yep! The giant cigar Doomsday Machine that blew up entire star systems, the portal in The City on the Edge of Forever, not to mention the speed of their travel. Ah, the optimism of the 60s. We were going to be driving flying cars by now.
Also that time the Enterprise NX-01's phase cannons blew up a mountain "the size of Mt. McKinley". Keep in mind these were supposed to be primitive compared to the original Enterprise's phasers.
*i love that depiction of Qo'noS that you've made*
Your videos get WAY too few views. These analyses are really interesting and well done. Keep it up!
I've used supercontinents in a few of my settings, mostly because I just find the idea fascinating and you get some really interesting geologic formations. Since all your continental tectonic plates are in the same place, you can get some massive mountain ranges and large rift valleys. A supercontinent also makes the ocean much more vast and mysterious.
I think the only setting I've ever seen a supercontinent used well in is the world of the Dishonored games. The Empire of the Isles is isolated to a small island chain in the northern hemisphere in a seemingly endless ocean, and there's the mysterious and deadly supercontinent of Pandyssia in the east. You never visit it, but the fact that all of the civilized world is on some lonely, windswept isles really adds to the overall dread and otherworldliness of the setting.
@@AlienPlanetology It's certainly treated as the den of magic and mystery in the setting. The name is apt: Pandyssia - "place of all that is bad" in Greek.
I think a lot of people forget about Praxis sometimes, given that it was only mentioned once in canon (that I know of). Because the Federation's conflict with the Klingons was meant to be a Cold War analogy, with the plot of Star Trek VI also an analogy for the end of the Cold War, the disaster at Praxis is probably a commentary on Chernobyl.
Just discovered your channel and binged your planetary anomalies series and absolutely love it. It has given me a lot of useful information to mull over and consider. Also, if you ever make merch, it absolutely has to involve moons and density. Maybe the Daniel Radcliffe meme of him holding two pistols with a crazed expression.
Geez! What a wet dream of a channel! Seriously, your vids about fictional planets are pure stimulation for a dreamer's imagination ❤
Your channel is really underrated. You deserve much more subscribers and views.
Yay, another nice gift for x-mas!
Thank you.
This would explain the rapid aging as seen in Klingon children.
The planet itself was hostile to its species...
During one of my various attempts to write a novel I tried constructing a solar system for this novel. It was largely arbitrary but it could be believable... until you got out past the 3rd planet.
The 4th planet was a gas giant Horus: (The only thing I had narrowed down was that it was about 15% larger than Jupiter but with roughly the same gravity), and had 5 accompanying moons which I am fairly certain I made too large.
- H-1: 2,017 km diameter, 36 hour orbit, Gravity 0.18G, Atmosphere 0.002 Bar (71% SO2, 18% H2)
- H-2: 3,930 km diameter, 3 day orbit, gravity 0.12G, Atmosphere 0.001 Bar (76% NH3, 12% N2)
- H-3/Vakarnon: 7,081 km diameter, 12 day orbit, 38 hour day, gravity 0.42G, Atmosphere 0.52 Bar (71% N2, 15% NH3, 10% Ar, 3% CO2)
- H-4: 5,843 km diameter, 28 day orbit, gravity 0.19G, atmosphere N/A
- H-5: 5,521 km diameter, 28 day orbit, gravity 0.11 G, atmosphere N/A
H-1 and H-2 are essentially carbon copies of Io and Europa respectively, with the main difference being their diameters.
H-3/Vakarnon Is where things get weird. It has a much higher metallic content than the other moons (and I think may fall into the trope of planets having moons that are too large to have formed around them), and a magnetic field. It was struck along its equator by an interstellar object moving close to the speed of light which temporarily increased its rotational speed and thawed it's semi icy crust to form an ocean, which is now slowly refreezing (at the time the novel was going to be set this ocean would be largely confined to the equatorial region). It also had a moonlet, an asteroid only a few km across but this was obliterated during a brief interplanetary war, giving Vakarnon a sparse ring system.
H-4 and H-5 share an orbit with near 180 degrees of separation. I confess I have given them little thought beyond this. Could this be realistic with moons of this size?
Much further out was a binary gas planet, Amun-Ra. Both approximately Saturn sized although Amun is marginally larger. They orbit each other once every 52 days in a near circular but highly inclined orbit, and both have very sparse moon systems, having lost most of them when they entered into orbit around each other. Amun as the larger planet retains only 2 spherical moons with a handful of asteroids.
Amun's largest spherical moon (Varlos) and only one of note is essentially a clone of Titan, being 20% larger and 15% more massive. An orbital period of 3 days, 12 hours, a 1.82 bar Nitrogen/methane atmosphere. But the main difference is that 90% of it's surface is covered by a liquid methane ocean, with the only land being scattered island chains. The only other moon is a snowball barely larger than Rhea and has an orbital period of approx 6 days. Both this and Amun cause massive tides on Varlos.
Ra only has asteroids left to it, with the largest being 340 km across (Oktale).
Is this solar system model utterly ridiculous or does it have some merit?
@@AlienPlanetology I'm glad my solar system was not as unrealistic as I feared and thank you for taking the time to provide feedback, I will use this to improve the system.
Regarding the question of stability, the only way I'm going to answer that is to create a simulation of the system and watch the chaos ensue.
@@AlienPlanetology It is thought that binary gas planets can exist, although are likely extremely rare. Two jovian planets of saturn mass would not be the most probable case, but rather a Jovian planet with a smaller ice giant-mass companion.
@@AlienPlanetology How were you able to calculate the densities of the Moons of Horus? I never got into that level of detail (which is how I made H1 too dense).
Underrated channel with absolutely elegant narration, presentation and explanation of points.
The first bonus star to be awarded.
Wow! That's one kind of a good video. I just love it! Or, as we say in klingon: majQa'!
Hey great video I know this might go off the rails of science fiction but could you do an analysis of Nirn from the Elder Scrolls series.
Awesome video for Christmas time!
A very interesting watch as always!
Thanks to your videos i'm getting closer to constructing my own star system!
I just want to know one other thing.
What would one need for a mars sized planet or moon to maintain earth like conditions for billions of years?
My own reshearch brought me to tidal heating as the easiest and most likely way to achive this. But i still don't know what a system like this should look like.
Should i look at the moons of the gas giants like Europa and Ganymede as an example, or a pluto-charon like configuration be enough to generate active tectonics and a permanent magetic field on a small planet like that?
(Or any other binary planet configuration for that matter)
As always, looking foward to your answer and keep up the good work with the videos!
@@AlienPlanetology Huh. So even if this moon would have active volcanism and a strong magnetic field it would still have difficulties holding on to an atmosphere due to the low gravity.
Well, if a thinner atmosphere could still be maintained then i think this could still work.
From what i heard an atmospheric pressure of 0.7 ATM is the minimum for earth like complex life.
If this pressure can be maintained then perhaps this idea could still work.
So i wonder how likely is that.
Happy Newyear! I hope you could do the Dark Crystal planet Thraa , its 3 moons and its 3 suns.
I’m wondering if you’re familiar with the channel Artifexian: he’s got a great channel on worldbuilding (including planetary systems), and it sounds like it’d be right up your alley.
I love this series a lot, it's been making me think a lot more in depth about the systems I create for a story I've been working on.
Do you think you could make one on the planet Pandora from the Borderlands series? I'd love to see what you say about that.
Oh and if possible, Hoxxes IV, the planet from Deep Rock Galactic
Qapla'!
Please make one or more episodes about the planets from the film Interstellar!
How about doing the planet Kobol from Battlestar Galactica, that has a single supercontinent as well?
Can you please do the next video on Jedha.
Please do ether cardassia prime or bajor
When will planets from Interstellar be explained in this channel?
Planet request: 4546B
Any Chance of Ring Gate planets from The Expanse (Laconia or Ilus?)
i actually wonder to how Accurate Rigel VII is, though... now thinking about it.. its probably going to get a low score, considering of the Star it orbits, the crap ton of Habitable / Inhabited Planets within the System, and probably a lot of unstable Orbits, and many more that i've likely skipped out.
Update and Spoilers: Recently, Rigel VII got featured in Star Trek: Strange New Worlds, and now we have some official Data for the Planet. but as one might expect, there are some inaccuracies, but i'll list the characteristics of the Planet
Mass: 5.71937×10^24 Kg (~0.9577 Earth Masses)
Age: 54 E 9 Solar Years (5.4 billion Solar Years)
Mean Surface Temp: 14.5 °C
Atmosphere composition: 81% Nitrogen, 18% Oxygen, 0.3% Argon, 0.3% Carbon Dioxide, a Trace amount of an Unknown Gas, a Trace amount of Methane, Carbon Monoxide, and Neon
Rotation Period: 25.1 Hours
Revolution Period: 329.7 Solar Days
now, i can already guess that there are multiple inaccuracies given to Rigel VII's Characteristics.
It annoys me how often sci-fi (and star trek) writers give supergiant stars with relatively short lifespans habitable planets, or even just planets at all.
@@joeallen9104 yeah, it would be impossible for Life to develop on a Planet orbiting a Supergiant Star, as they would be incredibly short-lived, and wouldn't have enough time to develop an advanced species like the Rigellian's or Kaylar, and there are a few other planets such as Pandora from Borderlands (orbits a White Sub-giant Star), Hoth from Star Wars (Orbits a B-Type Star), Arrakis from Dune (Orbits Canopus), and many more that i've possibly didn't list orbits so much short-lived Stars
Two things:
1. STAR TREK got away with having very little specific planetary detail by simply referring to the class of a planet, such as "class M"
2. This is revisionism. In 1978 I saw an article that said Kling was the homeworld of the Klingon Empire and they developed interstellar travel by virtue of having a derelict starship drift near Kling
Do it with the planet of Subnautica Name (4546b)
@@AlienPlanetology mine too
First Kligion moon get that badly damage we ask what kind technology the Kligion using. How the technology cause kind damage Star Trek such a minimal information hard to say one way or other. Problem argue Habitability unlikely lot tough giving credit for even complex life. Now as for Kligion biological tough surprising lot tough expect survival on Qo'nos.
Yes, I was fine with it until you said they blew up half their moon. It's a fun planet, though. A supercontinent wracked with volcanoes sounds like the precursor for a major extinction event. That's what's though to have happened during the Permian extinction event. Who needs pollution when there's so much volcanic activity that your supercontinent is splitting apart?
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