Does the Rangers' recent surge change trade deadline plans? | Up in the Blue Seats - Ep. 174

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  • @TM-mv8oj
    @TM-mv8oj 11 днів тому +5

    I want them to be sellers this year no matter what. This season is a unique opportunity to set themselves up for success over the next 5 years or so.

  • @bronxborn7513
    @bronxborn7513 12 днів тому +5

    You guys are the most fun and informative broadcast about the NYR that I've heard in a very long time. My fandom stretches back to the Cat running things and Bill Chadwick, the Big Whistle, interviewing the likes of King Clancy during intermission. Espo, JD, you are carrying on a great tradition. Thanks again. You have made this season better. 🎉

  • @KillJoy323
    @KillJoy323 11 днів тому +3

    Borgen is a beast

  • @HockeySense914
    @HockeySense914 12 днів тому +20

    What is the fascination with JT Miller? He is 32 year old player. All of these New York people love Miller. Lafreniere for Miller. Has Brooks lost his mind? I know Larry was around before games were televised. Come on.

    • @rafaeluryayev7174
      @rafaeluryayev7174 12 днів тому +2

      Brooks has always been a clown. But New York will always have JT Miller on their minds.

    • @NYLATORLON
      @NYLATORLON 11 днів тому

      JT Miller has an edge and he is an elite sniper who the Rangers need. They are not winning anything with Mika and Lafreniere or Kreider. JT Miller is a threat to score every shift...They need that. Plus his heart has always been in NY, so the idea is that he will have a lot of motivation to win a cup in NY unlike a Mika or Kreider or Lafreniere. JT has a certain drive to win that the current Ranger Stars lack.

    • @anticensorshipsociety1063
      @anticensorshipsociety1063 11 днів тому

      @@NYLATORLON They aren't winning anything regardless. I hope they win a few more games and delude themselves into buying at the deadline.

    • @humanbeing2420
      @humanbeing2420 11 днів тому

      Well, they need a 1C because they don't have one anymore, and who else is potentially available right now?

    • @humanbeing2420
      @humanbeing2420 11 днів тому

      @@anticensorshipsociety1063 Drury is not going to buy at the deadline. He knows this group is not winning anything. He knew it last year, which is why he did not go all in at the deadline last spring.

  • @djoyce52
    @djoyce52 12 днів тому +4

    They better not give up laf for anyone. He hasn't even touched his potential

  • @paulmendrina1449
    @paulmendrina1449 12 днів тому +6

    This team turned a corner with the 5-3 loss to Florida December 29th since then they have 1 loss in regulation let's go Rangers

    • @domenicdurante966
      @domenicdurante966 12 днів тому

      Sure. Anything you say.

    • @humanbeing2420
      @humanbeing2420 11 днів тому +2

      @@domenicdurante966You have to admit they're playing much better right now than they were before. I mean, that is obvious and indisputable. Whether they can make the playoffs or do any damage there is a separate question, and the latter doesn't necessarily follow from the former.

  • @NYLATORLON
    @NYLATORLON 6 днів тому

    I think JT Miller will make this team a serious contender. He is exactly what we need.

  • @johnmacallar9386
    @johnmacallar9386 11 днів тому +1

    Carrick a great addition…..a few more Canadian kids on the roster would go a long way….I always enjoy your conversations Molly,Larry, Brian..happy new year and all the best in 2025…go Rangers!

  • @sundancersbellydance7252
    @sundancersbellydance7252 11 днів тому +1

    I like feeling there's still a chance!

  • @edwardcelona6983
    @edwardcelona6983 9 днів тому +2

    Mika‘s one timer from last year is not as potent this year. Put the puck on net and go from there. They need to get rid of Keandre Miller, not sure if JT Miller is the answer, but let’s keep our options open.

    • @imoneyberg
      @imoneyberg 8 днів тому

      K'Andre Miller has been good with Borgen. He's a talented defenseman. His biggest issue was playing with Trouba. He'll always make boneheaded mistakes but if you pare him appropriately he's a net positive.

  • @nyr44
    @nyr44 12 днів тому +3

    Laffy for Miller should be off the table Larry because that's crazy!!. I think we need Miller as our 1C but not for that price, we still need to revamp this defense if we seriously want to contend for a cup in 2026 and beyond.

    • @rgiardelli
      @rgiardelli 11 днів тому +1

      And Schneider as well. Those two should not be moved, especially for Miller.

    • @NYLATORLON
      @NYLATORLON 6 днів тому

      What's so special about LaBust ? He is one of the worst number one overall picks in NHL history. How much longer should the Rangers wait for him to look like a number one overall ? He gets points because he is on Panarin's line. Last year Panarin had a career year and it helped LaBust get points and avoid a trade. This year Panarin is not having a great year and LaBust is struggling as usual. We should trade him now, while we can get a JT Miller for him. Otherwise, we will lose him in 2 years and get nothing in return like crapo Kakko.

  • @inhumanoiddcompose7043
    @inhumanoiddcompose7043 12 днів тому +3

    larry is high here. definitely on something. look at this eyes 🤣

    • @humanbeing2420
      @humanbeing2420 11 днів тому

      He might be sedated or on cold medicine or maybe he's had a drink or two? He's speaking a bit slower than he usually does and I'm hearing a bit of slurring of some words too.....

  • @jeffloewi5632
    @jeffloewi5632 12 днів тому +8

    Brian, how can you talk about Zibaejad as key when out of the worst =/- stat he sits 824th out of 825 NHL players with a -25? Every time he's on the ice I cringe.

    • @NYLATORLON
      @NYLATORLON 6 днів тому

      Thank you for your true insight

  • @NYLATORLON
    @NYLATORLON 6 днів тому

    Carrick is my favorite Ranger this year no doubt. He's consistent too. He will be great in the Playoffs.

  • @briangilroy6294
    @briangilroy6294 12 днів тому +2

    Would love to get JT Miller but definitely not for Lafreniere. That would be insane. He,s picked up his play lately and he’s only 23 with too much potential. He also was one of our best players in the playoffs last year.

  • @johnnyred8902
    @johnnyred8902 12 днів тому +4

    On Miller why would we take a guy who is a distraction and has had issues on every team he's been on? Why would anyone want a player like that especially when he has YEARS left on his contract?

    • @UMTFKRPCU
      @UMTFKRPCU 12 днів тому

      Miller will be a f'n disaster to any team he winds up on so I fully expect that he will wind up with the Rangers.

    • @humanbeing2420
      @humanbeing2420 11 днів тому

      Because where else are we going to find a potentially great 1C. We really need one right now.

    • @michaelmarro1011
      @michaelmarro1011 10 днів тому

      @@humanbeing2420he’s not potentially great. He will be a disaster

  • @Dethrone55
    @Dethrone55 12 днів тому +2

    Mika for JT miller straight up. The guy can’t buy a goal

    • @richardalva5850
      @richardalva5850 10 днів тому +1

      THEY BOTH HAVE FULL NO MOVEMENT CLAUSES! What is so hard for everyone to understand about this!?

    • @NYLATORLON
      @NYLATORLON 6 днів тому +1

      @@richardalva5850 That is why we have General Managers makng deals and decisions and not clueless fans

  • @KillJoy323
    @KillJoy323 11 днів тому

    Larry Brooks comfirms JT Miller's long awaited return to MSG ✅

  • @nyr4life
    @nyr4life 10 днів тому +1

    I agree with Larry about the Rangers being Sellers at the deadline. Every Ranger fan should be honest with themselves and ask the question, do we see the Rangers winning the Stanley Cup with this Core Group? My answer is No. Being sellers at the deadline will allow the Rangers to recoup draft picks and build up the cupboard. I like Will Borgen, I think he is way better then K Andre Miller and even though K Andre is younger, I think this is the best we are going to get from him. If you could get a 1st rd pick for Miller, I would jump on it. I think a 3rd for Lindgren, but a 2nd would be amazing. Probably a 3rd for Reily Smith, Jones is also going to be gone, who know what he is worth. Bring up Otthman , Berard and let's see what they can do. But being buyers just because they put up a week stretch is typical Rangers. Don't get fooled, if this team somehow got into the playoffs. I don't see them getting out of the 1st rd. The main goal is the Stanely Cup. This Core has there chances and could not get it done. Time for change, in my opinion.

  • @velvetbikes
    @velvetbikes 12 днів тому +4

    dammit I missed it. Did you guys discuss WHY MIKA IS GIVEN A FREE PASS for a season and a half now? He's almost LAST in the league in +/- and can't score on breakaways or the STALE power play for SHIT, but SURE let's trade Kakko. A. SEASON. AND. A. HALF. And he gets almost 20mins a night, every friggin night.
    If Rangers were SERIOUS about winning he would be scratched or on the 4th line if they can't trade him.

    • @Ihatecensorship1
      @Ihatecensorship1 11 днів тому

      I don't know how many times this needs to be explained. I don't know if there's a remedial NHL class people can take, but why not. Let's explain it ONE. MORE. TIME. Mika Zibanejad CANNOT BE TRADED unless he waives his NO MOVEMENT CLAUSE. Jesus Christ himself couldn't trade Mika Zibanejad.

    • @humanbeing2420
      @humanbeing2420 11 днів тому

      Mika had three breakaways in regulation last night and came nowhere close to scoring on any of them. In the shootout, who is #3? Mika. Does he score? Nope - not even close. He has been better overall lately, but unfortunately for Mika, that means he has been marginally less embarrassing than he was earlier. He still turns the puck over regularly, whiffs on shots, falls down and makes bad decisions. He's so awful.

  • @DaveS-zy6ci
    @DaveS-zy6ci 12 днів тому +1

    Smith, Lindgren and Borgen are must moves regardless of standings. If Mika can't be dealt, i've also been big on moving from Chytil if he can be packaged for a good replacement...Hard to depend on his future

    • @KillJoy323
      @KillJoy323 11 днів тому +2

      Wrong

    • @humanbeing2420
      @humanbeing2420 11 днів тому +1

      Smith and Borgen have been very good recently.

    • @DaveS-zy6ci
      @DaveS-zy6ci 11 днів тому

      @humanbeing2420 true but are they worth resigning? They both can possibly bring back 2nd round draft picks to either use or flip

    • @richardalva5850
      @richardalva5850 10 днів тому

      Chytil? Chytil is injury prone, you honestly think a team wants Chytil, and would give you an impact player in return?! You're not using your head, you're thinking emotionally.

    • @DaveS-zy6ci
      @DaveS-zy6ci 10 днів тому

      @richardalva5850 "packaged deal" and go read current reports, they name him as a candidate

  • @joemelillo1625
    @joemelillo1625 11 днів тому

    Whether the Rangers are buyers or sellers at the trade deadline will be seriously affected by the results of the California trip and the next 5 games starting with Carolina and Montreal .
    The key to the Rangers season is the play of Zibanejad …. Going down the stretch .
    I expect the Rangers to trade at least one defenseman and two forwards , players on the last year of their contracts who can return …. I expect them bring up Berard , Othmann and Mancini post trade deadline and play them on regular lines til the end of the season .
    I also think Drury could trade a veterans with Modified no trade contracts ( Kreider ) if they don’t perform well ( win ) before the trade deadline .
    I would be surprised if the Rangers trade a signed “younger player “ , if the return brings in a quality veteran player
    I would not be opposed to move Zibanejad, if there was a trade for JT Miller … both might perform better with a change of scenery … ?

  • @robp8784
    @robp8784 12 днів тому

    12 possible points the remainder of January. Any less than 10, I agree with Larry and retool

  • @mattvillano7126
    @mattvillano7126 12 днів тому +1

    JTM is signed through 2028-29, so he will be 36 at the end of that contract. He peaked between 21-22 and 24. He's 31 and on the down side. LaFreniere is only 23 and has all of his best years ahead of him. No I would not even consider this trade. I would offer a 2nd, a 3rd and a B-level prospect.

    • @richardalva5850
      @richardalva5850 10 днів тому

      LOL yeah right and that wouldn't get you JT Miller, but like I said in another response, JT MILLER HAS A FULL NMC!

    • @mattvillano7126
      @mattvillano7126 10 днів тому +1

      @richardalva5850 JTM indicated that he's only going to accept the trade to one team, the NYR. That means that the Canucks have zero trade leverage.

    • @richardalva5850
      @richardalva5850 10 днів тому

      @ ok once again, I wouldn't believe ANYTHING you hear in the news and I never heard JT say he would only go to the Rangers

  • @nyr4life
    @nyr4life 11 днів тому

    If the rumors are true, that the Rangers were willing to give Schneider or Alexis Laffrienere to Vancouver for Miller than Drury should be FIRED IMMEDIATELY. There is no way, I would give Vancouver a former #1 pic who is still extremely young or Braden Schneider who should be a top 6 defenseman for a 32 year old Miller who has had locker room issues and has a temper. No way, Drury should stay far clear if Vancouver is demanding either Laffy or Schneider. In addition , what benefit would this be for the Rangers. We all know that this core is not good enough to win it all, they have 3 or 4 chances and not been able to get it done. Does anyone really believe that Miller is going to take this team from borderline playoff team to winning the Stanley Cup?? This is not the move and Drury should be fired on the spot if he accepts that Deal. It would be honestly a big steal for Vancouver.

  • @richardgusmano614
    @richardgusmano614 11 днів тому

    Disagree about Lafreniere but agree with the big picture: what is the 3 year plan? What happens when Panarin's contract is up? Schneider is solid but replaceable. How would the coach utilize him? What center becomes a winger or does Miller become a winger?

    • @koceanclub
      @koceanclub 9 днів тому

      Miller should be moved to the wing.

  • @mattski523
    @mattski523 12 днів тому

    Thanx guys love this show. My 2 cents (sense) here is that this Rangers Team already has a Miller and there’s no room for another one! Especially since he’s already been here and the Team moved on from him plus, he’s got to some degree the TD (former Ranger, Cane, Flyer) Syndrome which wreaks havoc in whatever locker room they’re in. Too. Much. Drama…. not enough TEAM. And to think about trading him for Laffy is … well laughable… I think the jury is still out on LaFreniere. He started to show what he can do last season-haven’t seen much this year from him but I don’t see this as a good move for the Rangers…or, if yor going to trade Lafreniere away then get the guy who’s going to be the next Captain from day one..
    Hopefully the recent turnaround sticks and the Rangers keep rolling.

  • @WayneShannon-k6r
    @WayneShannon-k6r 11 днів тому +1

    These podcasts remind me of the scene in Moneyball. Brad Pitt walks into the conference room with about 8 guys talking over one another on which players to get rid of and pick up. Pitt remains silent and moves his fingers up and down as if it were a mouth and say “blah, blah, blah.”

  • @imoneyberg
    @imoneyberg 8 днів тому

    Larry, how do you say the Rangers must be sellers and yet want to trade Lafreniere for a 32 year old JT Miller? Are they thinking long term or short term?

  • @domenicdurante966
    @domenicdurante966 12 днів тому

    Turned it around? I want to see these guys play excellent hockey for 5-6 weeks, minimum, not just 5-6 games.

  • @KillJoy323
    @KillJoy323 11 днів тому

    LGR!!!!!!!!!!

  • @MikeyScott90210
    @MikeyScott90210 12 днів тому +1

    Shouldn't. Team is still butter soft on defense, REFUSES to play 60 full minutes, and incapable of scoring 5v5. Sell! Sell! Sell!!!!!!!!

  • @howardhenick6729
    @howardhenick6729 9 днів тому

    Thank God Larry Brooks is not the GM of the rangers. I usually respect what Larry says but trading either Schneider or LaFreniere for JT Miller is beyond idiotic. JT is close to 32 is being paid a lot of money and wants to get traded only to New York. We the rangers have all The leverage. Don't give up two potential 23-year-old Stars for a 32-year-old with a long contract getting paid a lot of money that's Insanity. If they want to do JT for Mika or JT for Fil, That's another story. Under no circumstances do we give up Schneider or LaFreniere

  • @guypotvin6943
    @guypotvin6943 11 днів тому

    JT miller,
    He’s 31 yrs old……we don’t need more over 30’s

  • @urNbrTotoro
    @urNbrTotoro 12 днів тому

    Mollie is going into broadcast journalism someday. I hope it's for NHL Network or ESPN and not Fox News...

    • @humanbeing2420
      @humanbeing2420 11 днів тому

      You mean Fox Sports? Fox News is a separate entity. Why would she work for Fox News?

    • @urNbrTotoro
      @urNbrTotoro 10 днів тому

      @humanbeing2420 please let me know when you learn something about Murdoch's media empire and then, only then, comment again.

  • @juans3728
    @juans3728 11 днів тому

    Rangers are not interested in making the playoffs so now would be the time to assess other potential players worth the interest of the team yes we know teams headed to the playoffs are not going to give a hint as to who will be eligible. The team in general cannot continue depending on Igor they need to give him a cushion to play his own game there is still too many mistakes by the defense with inconsistency and finally why players focused on the puck on one side and leaving the opposing teams player free on the other side unprotected .

    • @humanbeing2420
      @humanbeing2420 11 днів тому

      The players seem interested in making the playoffs right now, given the way they're playing of late.

  • @n8n8n8
    @n8n8n8 12 днів тому

    TIL the word "Rescover"

  • @michaelmarro1011
    @michaelmarro1011 10 днів тому

    DO NOT TRADE FOR JT MILLER!!!!!!!!! It will be very very bad for this team

  • @NYLATORLON
    @NYLATORLON 6 днів тому

    Schneider has not been very good. I have no problem giving Vancouver a 3rd pair D who is overrated.

  • @franktrig
    @franktrig 12 днів тому +1

    Yeah great let's get more draft picks for the next draft, retooling with draft picks that will be mired down in the minors for years. A lot to look forward to in the next few years. Yawn.

  • @michaelradu4313
    @michaelradu4313 12 днів тому

    Laffy for JTM? Are you f'n high?

  • @DrDetfink
    @DrDetfink 11 днів тому

    Kakko’s production with Seattle should be a warning sign when it comes to giving up on youth. Rangers are just a miserable franchise that can’t play physical or defense.

    • @humanbeing2420
      @humanbeing2420 11 днів тому +2

      Almost every player who gets traded raises his game noticeably after he arrives on a new team. It stands to reason - his effort level has to be at its peak at that point in time. So that must be kept in mind regarding Kakko. He is also getting much more ice time and responsibility now than he was with the Rangers. And that was the problem - he was never good enough in NY to justify top 6 minutes, so he never got top 6 minutes. He was given many opportunities on the top two lines and he failed to produce enough to stick there. Lafreniere, on the other hand, was given the opportunity and converted it, and now he's a top 6 contributor here. Kakko wasn't and was never going to be one here.

    • @DrDetfink
      @DrDetfink 11 днів тому

      @ At this point none of the young Rangers are worth top six minutes. As much as fans fault Kakko, I don’t think he’s the problem. I think, he’s stuck with the bitchwork that the vets don’t do, which is why this team falls off a cliff in the ECF two out of the last three years.
      JT is not going to change that. This team should be sellers at the deadline.

  • @humanbeing2420
    @humanbeing2420 11 днів тому

    Is Larry heavily sedated here? He looks and sounds like it....

  • @NYLATORLON
    @NYLATORLON 11 днів тому

    I'm tired of seeing sleepy foggy Mika Zzzzombiebad and can't wait to see him traded, as well as Kreider, Miller, Lindgren, Vesey. Mika and Kreider are not worth breaking the cap for. If the Rangers make the Playoffs they will be out in the first round. The expectations for this group are not to just make the Playoffs Mika has been playing poorly for 2 Playoffs and 2 seasons now. Time to trade him and Kreider. These are not the Stars the Rangers are going to win with. Lafreniere should also be traded while he''s still worth a return, or the Rangers will get nothing back when they trade him in 2 years when they finally admit he's a bust like Kakko.

    • @humanbeing2420
      @humanbeing2420 11 днів тому

      Kreider single-handedly got us to the ECF last season. Let's not forget that. That happened. It earns him some credits in my mind.

    • @NYLATORLON
      @NYLATORLON 6 днів тому

      @@humanbeing2420 Kreider had one good game and then he gave us nothing in the ECF. No one questions his ability, but he is not worth the Star money he receives. We need someone who will show up consistently. In the big picture Kreider shows up one game and then is missing for 5 games. We can''t win a cup with a guy like that. Kreider does not have the championship work ethic or mentality to be one of the Rangers Stars to help lead them to a cup. It''s time to move on from him and Zzzombiebad. They are not worth the money we are paying them and they have had 4 years including the bubble play-in tournament.The results are not there...They are also boring to watch ! Tired of seeing them, let's get in some fresh faces who have an insatiable need to win a cup.

  • @davidwood1100
    @davidwood1100 12 днів тому +2

    I mean this team will be no where near a stanley cup with the soft as tissue paper leadership core. So yes you sell at the deadline. You are completely overpaying your goalie and #1 Center so to have any chance to win the cup you will have to supplement with cheap players. So sell off this year and probably next and then try and build a team with cheaper players

    • @SamWesting
      @SamWesting 12 днів тому

      Overpay? Cap is going up & within a couple of years, Igor won’t be the highest paid goalie anymore.

    • @davidwood1100
      @davidwood1100 12 днів тому +1

      @SamWesting and he will be on the down side of his career. Just because it won't look as bad in 3-4 years doesn't mean it's not an overpay.

    • @SamWesting
      @SamWesting 12 днів тому

      @@davidwood1100 Like it or hate it, that contract has been signed & incessantly complaining won’t change it. Sounds like you’ll be happier cheering for the Fish Sticks. They could use more fans.

    • @davidwood1100
      @davidwood1100 12 днів тому

      @@SamWesting sorry if stating obvious facts is upsetting to you, that doesn't change the fact that we have a large portion of our salary cap tied up in a couple of players. Igor makes 11.5, Mika 8.5, Laf 7.5, Fox 9.5. because of that you need to get production from cheaper players, since we are not very good right now use these next couple of years to fill up the talent pool on cheaper guys. That means not resigning guys like Borgen for 3-4 million. It means trading guys like him and Smith.

    • @SamWesting
      @SamWesting 12 днів тому

      @ Sorry if pointing out that your whining about Igor is all but pointless.

  • @__nicfit__
    @__nicfit__ 6 днів тому

    Trashed Larry spews the same shit. #TortsWasRight

  • @johnnyred8902
    @johnnyred8902 12 днів тому

    So once again the great Molly Walker has a profound statement of how Carric is the MVP for 2025, really Molly? So because a player has a good run for 7 games he's an MVP? So the Post thinks she's the best for the paper to run a podcast and go on NHL network with all of her great knowldge she has for 5 years of covering a NHL team.

    • @SamWesting
      @SamWesting 12 днів тому +2

      Somebody sounds jealous

    • @johnkomarinetz1101
      @johnkomarinetz1101 10 днів тому

      Put away those bitter pills and you'll be a better person. ​@@SamWesting

  • @bobbyganoosh929
    @bobbyganoosh929 12 днів тому +4

    Larry is so dumb yea trade Laff for JT like are you out of your mind I love that the rangers are playing better but like what are you watching I would trade Kreider panarin and Mika way b4 Laff obviously I know theirs trade protection but in terms of the players and the cancers they are in the room the rangers Vets are the problem with this team always miller would be great but last thing rangers should be doing is trading any of their good young guys they need new veteran leaders besides trocheck im okay with them keeping him but Mika Kreider and Panarin I would love if they left Panarin being the best player on your team is not a good thing such a clear sign of a weak soft team and he gets everything he wants young guys need to build a new culture for the rangers but if the make playoffs yea see what happens but I ain’t trading Laff for JT in a million years

    • @humanbeing2420
      @humanbeing2420 11 днів тому +1

      Cut him slack - he's high as hell here.