how to to read spin and return the serve in table tennis

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  • Why it is so difficult to read spin and return the serve in table tennis?
    Table tennis' serve return is extremely difficult. High-quality serves are pretty hard for many players to return.
    Serve and attacking the third ball is one of many possible combinations in table tennis. Receiving the serves, on the other hand, is a major challenge. Due to the server having all control over the serves, there's no way to influence what the server does.
    Pro players also have difficulty
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 45

  • @TP-mp5lk
    @TP-mp5lk 2 роки тому +23

    I think it was a very clever move by Olah to grow his belly so that he can hide his serves better... ;-)

  • @canicetang8837
    @canicetang8837 2 роки тому +29

    Olah is Finnish #1 for a very long time and strongly in the ITTF's top 100. Meanwhile, Chen was always hiding his serve with his toss purposely backwards. How the umpire never warned him at all throughout the match was completely insane.

    • @niklaskras5498
      @niklaskras5498 2 роки тому +1

      I think Chens serve is acceptable. Yes he does not throw his ball vertically but it does not look that he hides the ball much. From my point of view Olah should be able to see everything he has too. if you look at the underspin serve from he indeed can read that its underspin. he just underestimates the amount. so in my opinion Its just a pretty good serve with deceptive motions. Olah on the other hand intentionally hides the important contact point with his hand. but besides that his serve is pretty simple and if he would not hide it his opponent would probably have a lot less problems.
      edit: looks like chen hides the ball with his head like yoshimura

    • @bgmaster8557
      @bgmaster8557 2 роки тому

      @@niklaskras5498 There is no way he can see the ball for example in 11:00 Nobody can challenge top 100 player with serve without hiding it

    • @furypanda9629
      @furypanda9629 2 роки тому

      @@bgmaster8557 That serve on 11:02? He definitely can see it what are you talking about??

    • @bgmaster8557
      @bgmaster8557 2 роки тому

      @@furypanda9629 Check how near the neck the ball goes, and his shoulder. He does hide if with the body, i do hide this way my hook serves sometimes.

    • @furypanda9629
      @furypanda9629 2 роки тому +1

      @@bgmaster8557 Ah now I see it. Thanks friend!

  • @gustavosuenaga
    @gustavosuenaga 2 роки тому +17

    its hard cause half of the serves are illegal

  • @chickyandchuguchannel1616
    @chickyandchuguchannel1616 9 місяців тому +1

    Ive been watching lot of your videos coach, thank you for sharing these tips and tricks the Chinese way I think they are really good insights and super helpful.
    Serves and reading spins is still something I need to develop

  • @pappaflammyboi5799
    @pappaflammyboi5799 2 роки тому +9

    It's hard to read the spin because most players cheat by hiding the ball behind some part of their body...

  • @chrisayling3484
    @chrisayling3484 2 роки тому

    GREAT SET AND MATCH.

  • @Ahma000
    @Ahma000 2 роки тому +1

    Benedek also has difficulties when the rally starts and the ball goes to his crossover point since he is tall, his technique is good and his backhand is deadly. He needs to move more and focus on spin.

  • @markusmaier2325
    @markusmaier2325 2 роки тому +7

    Most players cheat at serve by hiding the ball! Watch Samsonov. He was never hiding or whatever. That’s how should be served.

    • @Patriklost
      @Patriklost 2 роки тому +1

      And still he was a world class player without cheating and a nice guy.

  • @igorperic6219
    @igorperic6219 Рік тому

    this was a great match I watch it till the end

  • @Felix-zf4co
    @Felix-zf4co 2 роки тому

    Very good ideo as always

  • @dianhidayat7329
    @dianhidayat7329 2 роки тому +1

    Hebat bola spinnya kencang banget saya suka ni..

  • @kyawzaylwin669
    @kyawzaylwin669 2 роки тому

    How can I train for penhold forehand drive, please please. Make a video.

  • @janpoec9655
    @janpoec9655 2 роки тому +2

    Surely, hiding the serve could have been the issue, but look also how many mistakes both players are making even during the warmup, and later, on supposedly easy hits. I think it might have been an issue with the balls or the table/floor. I think it is not usual for pro players to make THAT many mistakes during a game.

  • @aahhman107
    @aahhman107 2 роки тому

    So intense! Scoring is so quick.

  • @losjorgos
    @losjorgos 2 роки тому +1

    No offense, what you are saying is correct, but it doesn't help really. Contact point and movement of the paddle while serving is usually a strong indicator for the spin to expect. Especially in non-professional environment this will help. As closer the ball hits to the handle of the racket, as less spinit will create, it will be rather empty of spin. if the ball hits top of the racket the spin will be higher. then you look at the movement of the paddle, this will allow you to see if you get top, side or backspin or a combination. if you wait for the ball to bounce, your reaction time reduces immensely, also it is the easiest to attack a serve at its highest point in the bounce curve, not just for attacks in general thats the best point to hit it. if you wait for it to fall, it will be very hard to return, expecially for heavy top spin or kicker serves. I assume a pro will be able to see the label and the bounce, analyse it and be quick enough to react, but a "normal" player will not be able to react that quickly. Don't forget most players have so much problems returning serves, that it will be great for them to start returning at least some. So guys focus on the start of the serve and if someone is covering the racket, it is illegal and you can call it.

  • @springm2991
    @springm2991 2 роки тому +1

    isnt the guy on cover the pongfinity guy🤣

  • @darwinramirezsilva3484
    @darwinramirezsilva3484 2 роки тому +1

    👏🏻👍🏻

  • @paulbourdess925
    @paulbourdess925 2 роки тому +5

    The rules about serve are so simple yet so often ignored.
    Both of them are not using an open palm, both are throwing the ball in a half circle arc towards themselves, and half the time the contact point is hidden.
    Its poor umpiring, sure, but the problem is the players not having enough sportsmanship to follow the rules on their own

  • @SergiArias
    @SergiArias 2 роки тому +3

    Wow this pro players abuse a lot of the angle (illegally) of the serve in my opinion. Practically all the serves are illegal if I understood correctly the rules.

  • @RustyArtJourney
    @RustyArtJourney 2 роки тому

    Nice thumbnail

  • @robertmartian
    @robertmartian 2 роки тому +2

    i'm so sick of players cheating with their serves. its disgusting, and a black stain on table tennis in general. how is this allowed to happen?

  • @roberttooliveira7132
    @roberttooliveira7132 2 роки тому +1

    Tudo bem o saques estava em grande parte sem condições de se ter uma leitura sendo irregular mas o juiz é incompetente ao extremo.

  • @ttindia2654
    @ttindia2654 2 роки тому

    Table tennis

  • @olaniyi570
    @olaniyi570 2 роки тому +6

    Both serving illegally most of the time.

  • @piwi7332
    @piwi7332 2 роки тому

    oui bin on enfonce des portes ouvertes là^^

  • @therenegadepianotechnician5170

    Where IS the umpire ? They changed the service rules so games look less like these.

  • @roberttooliveira7132
    @roberttooliveira7132 2 роки тому

    sorry but it's true

  • @z0uLess
    @z0uLess 2 роки тому

    11:40 nasty boy.

  • @inquistive
    @inquistive 10 місяців тому +1

    They both have illegal serves and so they are cheatinh. The ITTF should deal with this problem, it would be very simple to do.

  • @whliew171271
    @whliew171271 2 роки тому

    people hardly practice serving. how to be easy??

    • @frederikvater
      @frederikvater 2 роки тому +2

      This is why I read the comments xD

  • @orlandojam8
    @orlandojam8 Рік тому

    because they hide their serves 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @MrBarrynicholas
    @MrBarrynicholas 2 роки тому

    Both foul serving all the time......they deserve each other.

  • @manudehanoi
    @manudehanoi 2 роки тому +1

    quand t vietnamien avec un accent francais qui essaye de parler anglais

    • @manudehanoi
      @manudehanoi 2 роки тому

      @@lacroix9407 oui ca sert a ca les commentaires

    • @pingsunday
      @pingsunday  2 роки тому

      😂🙏

  • @skimych5996
    @skimych5996 3 місяці тому

    What is this video about? Is it an answer how to read the spin?? Absolutely useless video, just again the same words „you have to learn reading spin to make your play more confident“