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@@ToastIsANiceFood Thats a really good idea, i personally dont believe in any lore taht comes after UCN but it would still be nice to know what the storywriters had in mind with this
finally someone is talking about this. the shadow animatronics have always bugged me. they've always seemed so important yet we barely have any information on them. i like this theory, it makes a lot of sense.
ive always been under the impression that shadow bonnie was basically jus the embodiment of evil since yknow bunnies have a bad wrap in the series and ive never rlly even thought abt shadow freddy or nightmare but this theory actually makes sense
I used to think shadow Freddy was William afton wearing a Freddy costume in the dark and leading the animatronics to the back room where he comes out and destroys them
I'm actually trying to theorize if one of them, especially shadow freddy could be Old Man Consequenes.. Which would add up who he is and who was speaking in ucn...
oh really? in the code of the game Nightmare is titled "Shadow Freddy" - same as the FNAF 3 secret Freddy, who by turning it's green light into a white light (which white always reveals true colors) turned it to purple! fun facts :)
if u didnt know, the nightmare animatronics are the nightmarish versions of the fnaf 2/ unwithered/ withered animatronics, shadow freddy has the same look as freddy so thats probably why nightmare is in the game
I actually kind of like how much the franchise ignores the Shadow animatronics. It keeps them mysterious and obscure, which imo makes them all the spookier
That's a great theory that explains a lot, although I have some nitpicks: Shadow Bonnie appears in FNaF 3 for a little bit, like you said earlier in the video. I guess the canonicity could be arguable, but it seems canon. He appears two times, one in minigame sprite and another as a figurine, so I'm not sure about him stopping existing right afer FNaF 2. Also, although I don't fully believe the shadow animatronics to be the ones in the midnight motorist minigame, the footprints could be from the shadow animatronics if Crying Child wasn't the one in the room; I know this is against your theory about midnight motorist, but I think the Crying Child could not be the one in the room after I saw Sire Squawks' video about the minigame.
shadow bonnie's minigame apperance like you said I'd argue is questionably canon, because it appears in a Fredbear's Family Diner minigame and is just standing there doing absolutely nothing in another, unlike Shadow Freddy who is doing things and guiding the player, but yeah the Shadow footprints would work if it's simply one of the MCI's parents or something
@@HyperDroid Or instead of those shadow footprints belonging to an Shadow animatronic it could be Golden Freddy near the Afton house. I mean Gold does seem to have weird powers as showcase in the series so showing up in certain places shouldn't be out of the question. Plus if the theory of CC being a soul or one of the souls in Gold is true, this fits. It could be just simply the spirit of the CC visiting his old house or his family again. Maybe trying to let them know he's still around. Or his trying to contact them. Maybe his older brother or his father to his location. A Fazbear location.
@@HyperDroid shadow bonnie actually gave cakes to the childrens so he could finally free them, he is the reason why the good ending exist, so he did things like shadow freddy did too
Thanks for talking about this,im very very new to the fnaf community and barely have watched any gameplays but about a week ago your (really awesome) timeline introduced me to the story
I always thought Shadow Freddy was Cassidy as a ghost, because he has the same missing ear as Golden Freddy in Fnaf 2. Also, you play as Shadow Bonnie in one of the mini games in Fnaf 3. I honestly think the Shadow characters were characters that had good potential, but felt neglected. And yeah, I do think that the idea that they're physical manifestations of the evil deeds that were done in the past, but I wonder why we see Shadow Bonnie in Special Delivery, considering the current Fnaf story, has it where all the murdered kids (except Cassidy), have moved on. Shadow Freddy and Shadow Bonnie are one of my favorite characters. I just hope that at some point, we could see them again, and Fnaf fans will pick back up on their existence, and what their purpose is. Thanks Hyper Droid, you're a true Fnaf fan.
I think the shadow animatronics are what the dead childrens spirits actually look like outside of the minigames....they can project outside of the animatronic but their souls take the form of shadow forms of the animatronic they possess.
that's why its name is garbled....the animatronics exist in fnaf world....the childrens spirits are in fnaf world....so their spirits once they push through are garbled data coming through to the real world....for some reason souls posessing animatronics become like digital signals...which is why william could become glitchtrap but actually be him and not just a convincing facsimle....their souls became digital.
I always felt Scott intended Shadow Freddy and Bonnie to be the shadows from FNAF 4, but then when Dream Theory got retconned, things suddenly got _very_ complicated.
i really like this theory, it explains everything very well and it may be true now, even tho for me, prior to SL(assuming the dream theory was the original idea) they were intended to represent how the crying child sees and interprets spring freddy and spring bonnie, because he's scared of them and as scott said "what is seen in shadows is easily misunderstood in the mind of a child."(because of how they are shown in the fnaf4 minigame)
I know they are just bonny and freddy in their goth phase but I can not help but find their look and sparse appearances compelling. I collect figures from games, comics, and anime but the only piece I have from Fnaf is a Shadow Freddy pop. I was actually looking over my collection and I saw shadow freddy just chilling on the shelf and it made me come search for a video explaining them and here I am. Great video thank you for not milking it for extra view time and sticking to the point.
A lot of evidence suggests that it's not the crying child who ran away from the afton home, but rather the older brother Michael after the crying child's death, placing midnight motorist after Shadow Freddy possibly according to yourtimeline.. This would actually play nice with the idea that the shadow animatronics visited the afton home during midnight motorist and with your theory that they're existence is rooted to the remnant of the missing children's cases.
I'm also on the side of Michael being the Run Away in midnight motorist. But I think a better explanation of the animatronics footprints behind the Afton house that it was not Shadow Freddy...but Golden Freddy. GFreddy does seem to have special powers like teleporting and such. Plus this works with GoldenDuo/CC is the soul or one souls in GoldenFreddy. The Soul of the CC is trying to reach out to Michael and pulling him to a nearby Fazbear location.
My theory is that they are a product of Agony (aka the byproduct/alternate form of Remnant). Remnant requires a soul being present whereas Agony is described more as being the lingering effects/traces of a soul and what it left behind. I personally believe that the shadow animatronics are Agony left behind from William's actions, his soul was so evil and twisted that his actions left behind Agony which has manifested as shadowy figures lurking in places he had been. The shadows are not actually active souls themselves like how the real animatronics are. The reason there is only a shadow form of Freddy and Bonnie is because they were William's 2 original characters and they are both suits he himself had worn in the past. The old golden Bonnie suit was what he used to perform most of his murders but he does also use a Freddy suit (probably an old fredbear one like what golden freddy is) in order to lure the posessed animatronics into the backroom of the pizzeria to dismantle them for their remnant. A lot of theorists have always seemed to struggle with the concept that the purple freddy in the fnaf3 minigames is William but I think this is surely obvious as to successfully lure the animatronics he wouldn't be able to use his old golden bonnie suit as the souls would recognise him instantly and attack him, he had to use the fredbear suit in order for them to follow him peacefully. The minigame even shows William's sprite instantly run out and destroy the animatronic as soon as the purple freddy disappears so I always thought it was obviously implying that was him quickly taking off the suit and destroying them. I think the fact these minigames also potentially imply that for some of his murders he used the fredbear suit too as he was clearly accustomed with it alongside his bonnie suit. With this information I think we can theorise that the shadow freddy and bonnie are lingering manifestations of the sins he committed using those suits, they are shadows burned into the environment where his killings took place and it is why the shadows are entirely passive and non-reactive. As an alternate theory for the purple freddy in the fnaf3 minigame, there are some people who think that Michael Afton either willingly or regretfully aided his father in some of his actions and with this it is possible that Michael was wearing the freddy suit and luring the animatronics so that his father could then attack and dismantle them. This would sort of lineup with how he says that William had guided him to sister location to "fix" elizabeth. It could be that Michael for a time was assisting his father in collecting and studying remnant (maybe with the intention of saving the soul of his younger brother) and potentially Michael was unaware of the actual origin of Remant and his father's murders but was just going along with dismantling the suits before his trip to sister location where he was scooped and learned the truth. Scott is always very particular about the use of specific colours and the freddy being a darker shade of purple than William could very well imply it was someone else assisting William and likely a family member since the use of purple, in addition back during fnaf3 Scott may have already been intending to have people be aiding William and he capitalised on this in fnaf4 by making it be his son. I quite like this theory as well since I feel like it can fit in quite well without causing too many issues, it doesn't mean that Michael is a villain character but instead implies that he was baited through emotional manipulation into helping William's twisted plans and it would explain why Michael seeks him out for revenge after sister location
I always thought that shadow bonnie had to be important in some way. Hes one of the animatronics that gives a kid a cake, thats needed for the good ending in fnaf 3. You see him in the follow me minigame and is introduced in 2. Also in the security breach dlc you see him briefly appear.
Was remnant a concept around the creation when fnaf 2 came out? I wonder if Bonnie's AR inclusion was to clean up a scrapped concept, though I'm not sure how much of a plan Scott had for remnant at the time of fnaf 2's drop. Loved this theory, their appearances always bothered me.
No Scott didn't have remnant in mind when fnaf 2 dropped these shadow animatronics were used to set up dream theory they were made imaginations from the kid seeing the silhouettes of freddy and bonnie during fnaf 4
Not by name, but I will note the idea of the metal specifically being alive was in The Silver Eyes(which started being written around the time FNAF 3 came out if not slightly earlier) and the FNAF 5 Night 5 Phone Call is an excerpt from Autobiography of a Yogi, specifically a chapter talking about the unified theory of all life and how plants and even metal hold properties similar to living things, comparing metals fatigue characteristics to flesh and hypothesizing about a metal soul.
The thing is, there’s another form that Shadow Freddy / Nightmare takes, and that is Nightmarrionne. We know that because of three things: in FNAF VR the Nightmarrionne plushie that we collect is labeled as “Nightmare”; In FNaF 4, during Halloween, Nightmarrionne replaces Nightmare and because they’re jumpscares have the same exact pose and sound. And all of that means that Shadow Freddy also appears in FNAF: Security Breach… So that’s fun!
As much as I hate to say this, this is truly what I believe. They are a part of dream theory. "What is seen in shadows can be easily misunderstood in the mind of a child" I believe is referring to the shadow animatronics. The crying child saw shadows of the animatronics and then had nightmares of the shadows. As much as I don’t like dream theory it makes the most sense to me. I don’t think dream theory is canon anymore but I think that was what it was originally supposed to be.
My theory (commenting before i watch the video): I believe that the shadows are just hallucinations that Michael are seeing. In the fnaf 4 cutscenes you can see the shadows are literally just shadows of the springlocks. So michael might just be remembering the trauma of what went down at the old place If its even michael in fnaf 2, i dont remember No yeah yours makes way more sense
its theorized that mike is the second security guard in fnaf 2 (Fritz) while the first one is Jeremy who ends up being the victim of the bite of 87. if the shadows are hallucinations from mikes's past why would jeremy be seeing the same thing assuming that the shadows can spawn any night
I'm not sure Nightmare's quote would hold a lot of weight given that Nightmarionne, Nightmare Freddy, and Jack o Chica also have quotes relating to William's evilness.
Nightmare is also shadow freddy,so is still possible that the thing outside midnight motorist is still him. In the books beings of agony can become stronger feeding of other agony So,
This is a really interesting theory, and it actually fills in a lot of gaps, but I can't help but feel like it's missing just one last crucial piece. I can't explain what, but I just feel like there's something missing from this. I feel like some exploration into a psycho-analytical angle might fully complete this msytery, which I'll probably do over the next few days. RWQFSFASXC is probably my favourite animatronic.
I think the big footprints in Midnight Motorist is a hallucination of Fredbear (CC haunting Michael), and bringing him to the grave, which has CC inside.
My theory is that the crying child is shadow Freddy because it’s been theorized that golden Freddy is possessed by both Cassidy and CC and shadow Freddy looks just like golden Freddy so perhaps shadow Freddy is supposed to be the second spirit inside golden Freddy aka cc. And I believe Nightmare is supposed to be the fnaf representation of death
@@Bush_69590 bro this is fnaf we’re talking about a series where a guy can get his organs ripped out and turns into a purple zombie and a guy in a rotting bunny suit that has died 5+ times and somehow clones himself by turning himself into a computer virus. I don’t think my opinion is too far fetched, why don’t you just try to respect others opinions.
Thing is, while Shadow Bonnie I definitely think is a being of Dark Remnant, possibly a manifestation of the fear from the children toward the Spring Bonnie suit Afton used, I'm not sure if the same is true for Shadow Freddy. While the two are similar, they also have some pretty big differences. SB is pitch black aside from his eyes and teeth, almost looking like a living shadow. SF meanwhile is actually just a really dark purple, and you can see mechanical parts inside and hanging out. SF also doesn't have the weird glitchy elements during the minigames in 3. SF also appeared briefly in the second of the original book trilogy, performing roughly the same task of guiding the main characters to Afton. Hard to say what this all really means as far as what he truly is though.
These guys really aren't talked about enough, and I think this is as solid of a theory as we can make with the current information. The footsteps outside the window in Midnight Motorist is pretty much confirmed to be William in a mascot suit luring away one of the MCIs. The other minigames from 6 are about the victims as well.
You forgot a crucial detail: what remnant actually is. The Ultimate Guide is infamously not super reliable. It's primarily an updated version of The Freddy Files and uses a similar framing device, only suggesting possible ideas without ever giving much confirmation, and when it does, it's often not correct. Point is, its description of remnant is not accurate. We know what remnant is from FFPS: it's what you call metal after it has been haunted or possessed. Agony is the correct word to use here, and it's what the shadows actually are. This is made very clear in Fazbear Frights. Eleanor (who is also Shadow Bonnie in those books) was born from the MCI's agony and needs more agony to grow stronger. Dark remnant is a questionably canon concept. AR is kinda like FNAF World: it has some lore stuff, but the primary gameplay is best left forgotten.
I wish we got more clarification from anyone on how truly canon FNAF AR is, because a lot of things like the emails seem like a 100%, although a lot doesn't seem like it is canon, so it'd be nice to get clarification on what is canon
I do agree with most of what you said. I alway’s believed that both Shadow FredBear & RXQ didn’t originate from the Freddy Fazbear’s with the Spring-Lock’s simply that RXQ look’s too much like Toy Bonnie and plus his shadow design is different. He’s mostly black figure with white eye’s and teeth, while Shadow FredBear is Golden Freddy/ FredBear but purple and has white pupil’s. So to me these shadow’s originated in different place’s and I think that this line’s up with your theory.
We already establish that the older souls are more mature and less animalistic. The kids like to go "boo" and scare you. Springtrap instead just walks up to you casually. Same shit with the shadow animatronics. They want to dismantle the animatronics to either free their souls or stop the unecessary suffering
I have a strange theory about shadow Bonnie that might work : so in my therory bonnie was originally a employee at one of the locations and he was using a Bonnie suite with spring lock I don't know which Bonnie though but the employee got springlocked and then he died but he would still roamed the restaurant and when you look at scrap trap and burnt trap it looks like they are separate characters because burntrap has both arms and is taller so what of the employee who got springlocked is shadowbonnie an William entered glitchtrap after the fnaf three incidents and possed the body of scrap trap or in this theory the first employee to die of the spring locks. But that's just a theory A GAME THEORY
Ive heard somewhere that Shadow Freddy is the suit in which phone guy was stuffed into. What do you make of this theory? If you disagree, what do you think became of phone guy? He was stuffed into a suit, but which one? We never see him set free, so its likely that he remains trapped in the either Fnaf 1 or 2 location, which is upsetting to hear. Thanks
Every time I see a Fnaf theory mostly revolved around the first 4 games I can’t help but think how much dream theory made so much sense before Sister Location. Shadow Freddy and Bonnie? There because of the shadow outline Crying Child saw through the curtain of Fredbear and Springlock Bonnie. That’s the answer we could’ve had via dream theory. This was a great video though, I’m glad someone tried to tackle this topic at all.
The fnaf 2 animatronics are not possessed by kids. They are programed to attack anyone who looks like William, so he doesn't come back after being banned. There is only one incident of missing kids and that's the original crew. No other incidents
Really cool video although the midnight motorist interpretationu went with is wildly off from what i feel most the fnaf community can agree its about. Michael ran off not the crying child.
So I think shadow freddy is Chris afton because he is purple which is a resemblence of an family member from the afton family right,and he appears in fnaf 3 all the way on your left,I think he wanted to find his father you know.And isnt fnaf ar not an original lore game more likely a fan game!?
I still think They’re springlock victims, ghosts of Fredbears that still haunt the man who created their suits and help the kids break free from their prisons in fnaf 3. Afton can control the spirits of kids but when adult spirits get involved he loses his control and gets cornered in the safe room
In Midnight Motorist it isn't the crying child who ran away, its Michael, and its set after Crying Child's death. Michael "has a bad day" and breaks his window, and runs off (assumedly to William) to JR's, a bar. William goes to the bar, intent on dragging Michael home, but the bouncer wont let him in.
I personally don’t agree, because of the person who was that sitting in the chair watching TV. A character that does that is Michael. Plus only one character has 2 son’s in game’s and that Aubergine Man. Henry only has a daughter (in the game’s at least).
It's William luring one of the MCI victims away from their family. it's pretty clear from the context of the other mini-games being about the MCI kids, ad it's referenced in toy chica's "diary"
@@HyperDroid I mean the problem is that the shadows don't line up with springlock suits. Shadow bonnie is black toy bonnie. but people thought he was springbonnie. But he doesn't even have the five fingers, head shape or anything (yes I know that are 100 Different spring bonnie suits and one of them resembles toy bonnie but even then we only saw its head and shadow Bonnies body still doesn't line up. Shadow Freddy is just purple golden freddy and like I said before only has 4 fingers. The duo being springlock suits don't really have alot of proof to suggest so. To be fair later on hints to that were given in fnaf 3 and 4 but it could be possible that there are shadow springbonnie and Fredbear out there since they had different shapes in the minigames.
I have a theory that shadow freddy is death coming in many forms ( nightmare and nightmarionne ) because he had a plan in fnaf 3 to free the souls and not william plan for him to guide the animatronics to william and william just self defense so he can die from the souls we even can see that shadow bonnie helped after william died in the happiest day and in fnaf 2 he appeard because the bite of 87 and in fnaf 4 after the bite of 83
FNAF World (which is a canon game by the way) suggests that Crying Child from FNAF 4 is connected to Shadow Bonnie at least as FNAF World strongly suggests that Crying Child is putting the pieces together and guiding the spirits to Happiest Day. If correct, Crying Child could be Shadow Bonnie, as he becomes Shadow Bonnie in one of FNAF 3's minigames, which is an oddly specific form for him to take, as all other forms he's taken so far are from normal FNAF characters.
Fun fact: RWQFSFASXC was originally supposed to have the black body and white eyes with Springtrap’s body but Scott didn’t consider making FNAF 3 at the time
What if????? RWQ is Old Man Consequences because he leads or tries to lead the angry soul to ease and let William Afton be with his demons. Since the mini game with RWQ has him giving a cake, he’s trying to lead them to be free. Also, idk if RWQ was also the one luring the soul after the Chica, Bonnie, Freddy, and foxy animatronics was torn apart and their souls came out and went to the room where William afton is, to finish Afton off. Maybe?
They are Fear. In One of the FNAF 4 Minigames…. Two Purple Shadows can appear, one resembling Shadow Freddy and one being A Shadow SpringBonnie……Representing CC’s Fear over Animatronics. They are feeding off of CC’s Fear.
My theory is before the bite of 83 Shadow Bonnie and shadow Freddy then they ate human (Or maybe they are adult) springlocked and they're soul comed in idk what animatronic
So now that the character encyclopedia is out we need a redo on this theory cus there’s more shadows there’s shadow puppet and I think shadow balloon boy
Idk if this makes me OG but I remember the original theory that shadow bonnie was spring tap/spring bonnie and shadow Freddy is Fred bear/golden Freddy
Personally I do agree that They Are Agony Beings.but from different incidents. I think that Shadow Bonnie would be A Manifestation of the OG MCI Kids agony.Maybe thats Why its so helpful to them because in a way…it is an Extension of them. And shadow freddy would be The Bite Victim’s Own Agony being. Considering that shadow freddy and Nightmare are recolors of Fredbear and all. Also it would explain their appearance.BV’s agony would be of fredbear the animatronic that killed him and was the ine he feared most And the MCI’s agony taking the form of Spring Bonnie the suit That was used to kill them
I have a theory but I am not sure about it Willaim is shadow Freddy because in fnaf 3 mini game you play as an animatronic and shadow Freddy appears and tells you to follow him to the safe room after you follow him purple guy appears and destroys the animatronic because fnaf 2 is before fnaf 1 in the timeline so shadow Freddy may be the purple guy
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Also, I don't believe in the Midnight Motorist parts anymore haha - that's how FNAF is.
Thanks for watching :)
I love this series so much
Unsolved mystery idea: How is William in ucn and glitchtrap at the same time?
Can you do nightmarionne
@@ToastIsANiceFood Thats a really good idea, i personally dont believe in any lore taht comes after UCN but it would still be nice to know what the storywriters had in mind with this
@@darkblade125alt4 That's a good idea, especially with their appearance hidden all over Security Breach
finally someone is talking about this. the shadow animatronics have always bugged me. they've always seemed so important yet we barely have any information on them. i like this theory, it makes a lot of sense.
same
ive always been under the impression that shadow bonnie was basically jus the embodiment of evil since yknow bunnies have a bad wrap in the series and ive never rlly even thought abt shadow freddy or nightmare but this theory actually makes sense
I think it's the springlock victims
I used to think shadow Freddy was William afton wearing a Freddy costume in the dark and leading the animatronics to the back room where he comes out and destroys them
I'm actually trying to theorize if one of them, especially shadow freddy could be
Old Man Consequenes.. Which would add up who he is and who was speaking in ucn...
in all my years of knowing fnaf, I literally never knew that nightmare and shadow freddy were considered the same. It does make sense tho.
oh really? in the code of the game Nightmare is titled "Shadow Freddy" - same as the FNAF 3 secret Freddy, who by turning it's green light into a white light (which white always reveals true colors) turned it to purple! fun facts :)
@@HyperDroid So Are there Two Nightmares……the first being being Purple Freddy and The One we see In Fnaf 4???????
if u didnt know, the nightmare animatronics are the nightmarish versions of the fnaf 2/ unwithered/ withered animatronics, shadow freddy has the same look as freddy so thats probably why nightmare is in the game
Then why does nightmare have a yellow hat and bow tie then?
@@jasminemathis5600 because its his nightmares and theyre not real illusions ?
"Say my name."
"You're RWQFSFASXC."
"Your god damn right."
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I actually kind of like how much the franchise ignores the Shadow animatronics. It keeps them mysterious and obscure, which imo makes them all the spookier
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That's a great theory that explains a lot, although I have some nitpicks:
Shadow Bonnie appears in FNaF 3 for a little bit, like you said earlier in the video. I guess the canonicity could be arguable, but it seems canon. He appears two times, one in minigame sprite and another as a figurine, so I'm not sure about him stopping existing right afer FNaF 2.
Also, although I don't fully believe the shadow animatronics to be the ones in the midnight motorist minigame, the footprints could be from the shadow animatronics if Crying Child wasn't the one in the room; I know this is against your theory about midnight motorist, but I think the Crying Child could not be the one in the room after I saw Sire Squawks' video about the minigame.
Hey a follow Sire Squawks watcher! And I was just about to comment something similar.
shadow bonnie's minigame apperance like you said I'd argue is questionably canon, because it appears in a Fredbear's Family Diner minigame and is just standing there doing absolutely nothing in another, unlike Shadow Freddy who is doing things and guiding the player, but yeah the Shadow footprints would work if it's simply one of the MCI's parents or something
@@HyperDroid Or instead of those shadow footprints belonging to an Shadow animatronic it could be Golden Freddy near the Afton house. I mean Gold does seem to have weird powers as showcase in the series so showing up in certain places shouldn't be out of the question. Plus if the theory of CC being a soul or one of the souls in Gold is true, this fits.
It could be just simply the spirit of the CC visiting his old house or his family again. Maybe trying to let them know he's still around. Or his trying to contact them. Maybe his older brother or his father to his location. A Fazbear location.
@@HyperDroid shadow bonnie actually gave cakes to the childrens so he could finally free them, he is the reason why the good ending exist, so he did things like shadow freddy did too
Thanks for talking about this,im very very new to the fnaf community and barely have watched any gameplays but about a week ago your (really awesome) timeline introduced me to the story
Welcome to the community!
welcome!! hope you're enjoying it all so far! :)
well welcome then :)
Glad someone has made a modern video on these characters.
:)
I always thought Shadow Freddy was Cassidy as a ghost, because he has the same missing ear as Golden Freddy in Fnaf 2. Also, you play as Shadow Bonnie in one of the mini games in Fnaf 3.
I honestly think the Shadow characters were characters that had good potential, but felt neglected. And yeah, I do think that the idea that they're physical manifestations of the evil deeds that were done in the past, but I wonder why we see Shadow Bonnie in Special Delivery, considering the current Fnaf story, has it where all the murdered kids (except Cassidy), have moved on.
Shadow Freddy and Shadow Bonnie are one of my favorite characters. I just hope that at some point, we could see them again, and Fnaf fans will pick back up on their existence, and what their purpose is.
Thanks Hyper Droid, you're a true Fnaf fan.
I think the shadow animatronics are what the dead childrens spirits actually look like outside of the minigames....they can project outside of the animatronic but their souls take the form of shadow forms of the animatronic they possess.
this can really be seen in rkjflgkjldfgk or whatever like don't tell me that doesn't look like a kid in a costume
that's why its name is garbled....the animatronics exist in fnaf world....the childrens spirits are in fnaf world....so their spirits once they push through are garbled data coming through to the real world....for some reason souls posessing animatronics become like digital signals...which is why william could become glitchtrap but actually be him and not just a convincing facsimle....their souls became digital.
I always felt Scott intended Shadow Freddy and Bonnie to be the shadows from FNAF 4, but then when Dream Theory got retconned, things suddenly got _very_ complicated.
interesting, I think in general after FNAF 4 came out things got very complicated for everything haha
Theftking is the type of person when he’s a dad he gonna show fnaf vhs as a bedtime story
Dream Theory was never meant to be the case, as Scott debunked that theory a ton of times back then, everything meant something.
i really like this theory, it explains everything very well and it may be true now,
even tho for me, prior to SL(assuming the dream theory was the original idea) they were intended to represent how the crying child sees and interprets spring freddy and spring bonnie, because he's scared of them and as scott said "what is seen in shadows is easily misunderstood in the mind of a child."(because of how they are shown in the fnaf4 minigame)
i like this theory a lot!! makes me happy to see you talking about the shadows since ive always thought they were so interesting and intriguing
they are such interesting characters compared to a lot of others!
I know they are just bonny and freddy in their goth phase but I can not help but find their look and sparse appearances compelling. I collect figures from games, comics, and anime but the only piece I have from Fnaf is a Shadow Freddy pop. I was actually looking over my collection and I saw shadow freddy just chilling on the shelf and it made me come search for a video explaining them and here I am.
Great video thank you for not milking it for extra view time and sticking to the point.
A lot of evidence suggests that it's not the crying child who ran away from the afton home, but rather the older brother Michael after the crying child's death, placing midnight motorist after Shadow Freddy possibly according to yourtimeline..
This would actually play nice with the idea that the shadow animatronics visited the afton home during midnight motorist and with your theory that they're existence is rooted to the remnant of the missing children's cases.
huh, interesting theory! :)
I'm also on the side of Michael being the Run Away in midnight motorist. But I think a better explanation of the animatronics footprints behind the Afton house that it was not Shadow Freddy...but Golden Freddy. GFreddy does seem to have special powers like teleporting and such. Plus this works with GoldenDuo/CC is the soul or one souls in GoldenFreddy. The Soul of the CC is trying to reach out to Michael and pulling him to a nearby Fazbear location.
No, just no.........
My theory is that they are a product of Agony (aka the byproduct/alternate form of Remnant). Remnant requires a soul being present whereas Agony is described more as being the lingering effects/traces of a soul and what it left behind. I personally believe that the shadow animatronics are Agony left behind from William's actions, his soul was so evil and twisted that his actions left behind Agony which has manifested as shadowy figures lurking in places he had been. The shadows are not actually active souls themselves like how the real animatronics are. The reason there is only a shadow form of Freddy and Bonnie is because they were William's 2 original characters and they are both suits he himself had worn in the past. The old golden Bonnie suit was what he used to perform most of his murders but he does also use a Freddy suit (probably an old fredbear one like what golden freddy is) in order to lure the posessed animatronics into the backroom of the pizzeria to dismantle them for their remnant. A lot of theorists have always seemed to struggle with the concept that the purple freddy in the fnaf3 minigames is William but I think this is surely obvious as to successfully lure the animatronics he wouldn't be able to use his old golden bonnie suit as the souls would recognise him instantly and attack him, he had to use the fredbear suit in order for them to follow him peacefully. The minigame even shows William's sprite instantly run out and destroy the animatronic as soon as the purple freddy disappears so I always thought it was obviously implying that was him quickly taking off the suit and destroying them. I think the fact these minigames also potentially imply that for some of his murders he used the fredbear suit too as he was clearly accustomed with it alongside his bonnie suit. With this information I think we can theorise that the shadow freddy and bonnie are lingering manifestations of the sins he committed using those suits, they are shadows burned into the environment where his killings took place and it is why the shadows are entirely passive and non-reactive.
As an alternate theory for the purple freddy in the fnaf3 minigame, there are some people who think that Michael Afton either willingly or regretfully aided his father in some of his actions and with this it is possible that Michael was wearing the freddy suit and luring the animatronics so that his father could then attack and dismantle them. This would sort of lineup with how he says that William had guided him to sister location to "fix" elizabeth. It could be that Michael for a time was assisting his father in collecting and studying remnant (maybe with the intention of saving the soul of his younger brother) and potentially Michael was unaware of the actual origin of Remant and his father's murders but was just going along with dismantling the suits before his trip to sister location where he was scooped and learned the truth. Scott is always very particular about the use of specific colours and the freddy being a darker shade of purple than William could very well imply it was someone else assisting William and likely a family member since the use of purple, in addition back during fnaf3 Scott may have already been intending to have people be aiding William and he capitalised on this in fnaf4 by making it be his son. I quite like this theory as well since I feel like it can fit in quite well without causing too many issues, it doesn't mean that Michael is a villain character but instead implies that he was baited through emotional manipulation into helping William's twisted plans and it would explain why Michael seeks him out for revenge after sister location
I always thought that shadow bonnie had to be important in some way. Hes one of the animatronics that gives a kid a cake, thats needed for the good ending in fnaf 3. You see him in the follow me minigame and is introduced in 2. Also in the security breach dlc you see him briefly appear.
Lets all agree he makes the Best Unsolved mysteries of fnaf
Was remnant a concept around the creation when fnaf 2 came out? I wonder if Bonnie's AR inclusion was to clean up a scrapped concept, though I'm not sure how much of a plan Scott had for remnant at the time of fnaf 2's drop. Loved this theory, their appearances always bothered me.
No Scott didn't have remnant in mind when fnaf 2 dropped these shadow animatronics were used to set up dream theory they were made imaginations from the kid seeing the silhouettes of freddy and bonnie during fnaf 4
Not by name, but I will note the idea of the metal specifically being alive was in The Silver Eyes(which started being written around the time FNAF 3 came out if not slightly earlier) and the FNAF 5 Night 5 Phone Call is an excerpt from Autobiography of a Yogi, specifically a chapter talking about the unified theory of all life and how plants and even metal hold properties similar to living things, comparing metals fatigue characteristics to flesh and hypothesizing about a metal soul.
I'm fairly sure the fnaf 4 appearance is *literally* just their shadows, as in, the shadows of the animatronics on the stage?
“I always come back.” “You may not recognize me at first but I can assure you it’s still me.”
Oh no seems like my origins are being made into theories again 😅
The thing is, there’s another form that Shadow Freddy / Nightmare takes, and that is Nightmarrionne.
We know that because of three things: in FNAF VR the Nightmarrionne plushie that we collect is labeled as “Nightmare”; In FNaF 4, during Halloween, Nightmarrionne replaces Nightmare and because they’re jumpscares have the same exact pose and sound.
And all of that means that Shadow Freddy also appears in FNAF: Security Breach… So that’s fun!
Small correction: RWQFSFASXC does appear in Ultimate Custom Night. They are a part of Dee Dee's roster
As much as I hate to say this, this is truly what I believe. They are a part of dream theory. "What is seen in shadows can be easily misunderstood in the mind of a child" I believe is referring to the shadow animatronics. The crying child saw shadows of the animatronics and then had nightmares of the shadows. As much as I don’t like dream theory it makes the most sense to me. I don’t think dream theory is canon anymore but I think that was what it was originally supposed to be.
Dream Theory was never meant to be true, as Scott debunked it a lot of times back in 2015.
My theory (commenting before i watch the video):
I believe that the shadows are just hallucinations that Michael are seeing. In the fnaf 4 cutscenes you can see the shadows are literally just shadows of the springlocks. So michael might just be remembering the trauma of what went down at the old place
If its even michael in fnaf 2, i dont remember
No yeah yours makes way more sense
its theorized that mike is the second security guard in fnaf 2 (Fritz) while the first one is Jeremy who ends up being the victim of the bite of 87. if the shadows are hallucinations from mikes's past why would jeremy be seeing the same thing assuming that the shadows can spawn any night
Oh okay bet, i need to go through my fnaf lore a bit more
this would be a good theory if the Shadows didn't also appear away from Michael and where he wouldn't see them
0:08 that image of RWQFSFASXC was likely taken from the forsaken mod because in the real game, he has no plush suit.
That's exactly what I'm saying! This theory makes perfect sense to me. I love it.
this is beautiful. It's like shadow Freddy leading the ghosts represents they are looking for the killer out of anger, not curiosity.
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I'm really excited for this one. Can't wait!
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I'm not sure Nightmare's quote would hold a lot of weight given that Nightmarionne, Nightmare Freddy, and Jack o Chica also have quotes relating to William's evilness.
thanks for enlightening my sunday night
thank YOU for watching! :)
Nightmare is also shadow freddy,so is still possible that the thing outside midnight motorist is still him.
In the books beings of agony can become stronger feeding of other agony
So,
This is a really interesting theory, and it actually fills in a lot of gaps, but I can't help but feel like it's missing just one last crucial piece. I can't explain what, but I just feel like there's something missing from this. I feel like some exploration into a psycho-analytical angle might fully complete this msytery, which I'll probably do over the next few days. RWQFSFASXC is probably my favourite animatronic.
I think the big footprints in Midnight Motorist is a hallucination of Fredbear (CC haunting Michael), and bringing him to the grave, which has CC inside.
My theory is that the crying child is shadow Freddy because it’s been theorized that golden Freddy is possessed by both Cassidy and CC and shadow Freddy looks just like golden Freddy so perhaps shadow Freddy is supposed to be the second spirit inside golden Freddy aka cc. And I believe Nightmare is supposed to be the fnaf representation of death
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@@Bush_69590 bro this is fnaf we’re talking about a series where a guy can get his organs ripped out and turns into a purple zombie and a guy in a rotting bunny suit that has died 5+ times and somehow clones himself by turning himself into a computer virus. I don’t think my opinion is too far fetched, why don’t you just try to respect others opinions.
Thing is, while Shadow Bonnie I definitely think is a being of Dark Remnant, possibly a manifestation of the fear from the children toward the Spring Bonnie suit Afton used, I'm not sure if the same is true for Shadow Freddy.
While the two are similar, they also have some pretty big differences. SB is pitch black aside from his eyes and teeth, almost looking like a living shadow. SF meanwhile is actually just a really dark purple, and you can see mechanical parts inside and hanging out. SF also doesn't have the weird glitchy elements during the minigames in 3.
SF also appeared briefly in the second of the original book trilogy, performing roughly the same task of guiding the main characters to Afton. Hard to say what this all really means as far as what he truly is though.
Fun fact, those “spring lock incidents” were coverups for the first employees hanging themselves as you can see when you play sister location.
I really like this theory! Very good job!
thanks :)
We might know who shadow Freddy is.
In princess quest, theres a shadow like version of the princess/Cassidy, which She meets
I dont believe the Shadows are "agony" because of shadow freddys friendly nature
They either are a sort of flipside of One of the original spirits
Former staff on freddys/fredbears
Or just some extra victims
These guys really aren't talked about enough, and I think this is as solid of a theory as we can make with the current information.
The footsteps outside the window in Midnight Motorist is pretty much confirmed to be William in a mascot suit luring away one of the MCIs. The other minigames from 6 are about the victims as well.
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You forgot a crucial detail: what remnant actually is.
The Ultimate Guide is infamously not super reliable. It's primarily an updated version of The Freddy Files and uses a similar framing device, only suggesting possible ideas without ever giving much confirmation, and when it does, it's often not correct.
Point is, its description of remnant is not accurate. We know what remnant is from FFPS: it's what you call metal after it has been haunted or possessed. Agony is the correct word to use here, and it's what the shadows actually are. This is made very clear in Fazbear Frights. Eleanor (who is also Shadow Bonnie in those books) was born from the MCI's agony and needs more agony to grow stronger.
Dark remnant is a questionably canon concept. AR is kinda like FNAF World: it has some lore stuff, but the primary gameplay is best left forgotten.
I wish we got more clarification from anyone on how truly canon FNAF AR is, because a lot of things like the emails seem like a 100%, although a lot doesn't seem like it is canon, so it'd be nice to get clarification on what is canon
I do agree with most of what you said.
I alway’s believed that both Shadow FredBear & RXQ didn’t originate from the Freddy Fazbear’s with the Spring-Lock’s simply that RXQ look’s too much like Toy Bonnie and plus his shadow design is different.
He’s mostly black figure with white eye’s and teeth, while Shadow FredBear is Golden Freddy/ FredBear but purple and has white pupil’s.
So to me these shadow’s originated in different place’s and I think that this line’s up with your theory.
This song (beginning) brings me nostalgia for creepypasta videos about Herobrine haha
Thank you very much!
What is the name of the song?
I pretty much agree with most of this so good job
We already establish that the older souls are more mature and less animalistic.
The kids like to go "boo" and scare you. Springtrap instead just walks up to you casually.
Same shit with the shadow animatronics.
They want to dismantle the animatronics to either free their souls or stop the unecessary suffering
I have a strange theory about shadow Bonnie that might work : so in my therory bonnie was originally a employee at one of the locations and he was using a Bonnie suite with spring lock I don't know which Bonnie though but the employee got springlocked and then he died but he would still roamed the restaurant and when you look at scrap trap and burnt trap it looks like they are separate characters because burntrap has both arms and is taller so what of the employee who got springlocked is shadowbonnie an William entered glitchtrap after the fnaf three incidents and possed the body of scrap trap or in this theory the first employee to die of the spring locks. But that's just a theory A GAME THEORY
I love your videos keep it up
thank you! :)
@@HyperDroid when is the next video about the faz bear fright book coming out
Ive heard somewhere that Shadow Freddy is the suit in which phone guy was stuffed into. What do you make of this theory? If you disagree, what do you think became of phone guy? He was stuffed into a suit, but which one? We never see him set free, so its likely that he remains trapped in the either Fnaf 1 or 2 location, which is upsetting to hear. Thanks
@@PhilAndMind what became of him then?
I always thought that they both represented the two different bites and those were the animatronic's that caused it
Every time I see a Fnaf theory mostly revolved around the first 4 games I can’t help but think how much dream theory made so much sense before Sister Location.
Shadow Freddy and Bonnie? There because of the shadow outline Crying Child saw through the curtain of Fredbear and Springlock Bonnie. That’s the answer we could’ve had via dream theory.
This was a great video though, I’m glad someone tried to tackle this topic at all.
The fnaf 2 animatronics are not possessed by kids. They are programed to attack anyone who looks like William, so he doesn't come back after being banned. There is only one incident of missing kids and that's the original crew. No other incidents
they are possessed, there is a lot of proof that points to that conclusion being undeniable
@@HyperDroid where?
@@an-animal-lover just read the comments here: www.reddit.com/r/fivenightsatfreddys/comments/z914w1/are_the_toy_animatronics_possessed/
There was a second incident of 5 more kids being killed in the fnaf 2 location when William takes the role of security guard
in SAVE THEM, it shows that William killed 5 more kids.
Super awesome theory video. I really like it.
Really cool video although the midnight motorist interpretationu went with is wildly off from what i feel most the fnaf community can agree its about. Michael ran off not the crying child.
I had a theory that golden Freddy has 2 parts Fredbear/Evan and shadow Freddy/Cassidy and the formed golden Freddy or smth
So I think shadow freddy is Chris afton because he is purple which is a resemblence of an family member from the afton family right,and he appears in fnaf 3 all the way on your left,I think he wanted to find his father you know.And isnt fnaf ar not an original lore game more likely a fan game!?
No bruh it doesnt make sense
I still think They’re springlock victims, ghosts of Fredbears that still haunt the man who created their suits and help the kids break free from their prisons in fnaf 3. Afton can control the spirits of kids but when adult spirits get involved he loses his control and gets cornered in the safe room
I feel like shadow Freddy’s is the crying child’s spirit because of negative emotions of the death causing shadow remnant
In Midnight Motorist it isn't the crying child who ran away, its Michael, and its set after Crying Child's death. Michael "has a bad day" and breaks his window, and runs off (assumedly to William) to JR's, a bar. William goes to the bar, intent on dragging Michael home, but the bouncer wont let him in.
I personally don’t agree, because of the person who was that sitting in the chair watching TV.
A character that does that is Michael.
Plus only one character has 2 son’s in game’s and that Aubergine Man.
Henry only has a daughter (in the game’s at least).
@@75JUNAKI William Afton also presumably had a wife tho, and so I would assume its her sitting in the chair by the tv
@@nikikeya939 little bit of a reach tho imo. Michael is the only character in the series that ever consistently watches tv sitting down
It's William luring one of the MCI victims away from their family. it's pretty clear from the context of the other mini-games being about the MCI kids, ad it's referenced in toy chica's "diary"
Hey matpat ya need to hop on this
Huh interesting, I always thought that they were springlocked guys like you were saying, but this theory is a lot cooler
that was my old theory too, as well as a lot of other people's, it wasn't even a bad theory for that time haha
@@HyperDroid I mean the problem is that the shadows don't line up with springlock suits. Shadow bonnie is black toy bonnie. but people thought he was springbonnie. But he doesn't even have the five fingers, head shape or anything (yes I know that are 100 Different spring bonnie suits and one of them resembles toy bonnie but even then we only saw its head and shadow Bonnies body still doesn't line up. Shadow Freddy is just purple golden freddy and like I said before only has 4 fingers. The duo being springlock suits don't really have alot of proof to suggest so. To be fair later on hints to that were given in fnaf 3 and 4 but it could be possible that there are shadow springbonnie and Fredbear out there since they had different shapes in the minigames.
I have a theory that shadow freddy is death coming in many forms ( nightmare and nightmarionne ) because he had a plan in fnaf 3 to free the souls and not william plan for him to guide the animatronics to william and william just self defense so he can die from the souls we even can see that shadow bonnie helped after william died in the happiest day and in fnaf 2 he appeard because the bite of 87 and in fnaf 4 after the bite of 83
Doesn't shadow Bonnie appear in FNAF 3 after the toys are dismantled? You said he's not seen again after FNAF 2
But shadow bonnie does appear again after the toys are scrapped. In fnaf 3
For a second i thought the thumnail said "How woud they taste?"
Ok now do a unsolved mystery video on THE ENTIRE TIMELINE easy light work.
easy light work...
5:12 thats def og bonnie. even the example you gave has different teeth. more bunny like.
FNAF World (which is a canon game by the way) suggests that Crying Child from FNAF 4 is connected to Shadow Bonnie at least as FNAF World strongly suggests that Crying Child is putting the pieces together and guiding the spirits to Happiest Day.
If correct, Crying Child could be Shadow Bonnie, as he becomes Shadow Bonnie in one of FNAF 3's minigames, which is an oddly specific form for him to take, as all other forms he's taken so far are from normal FNAF characters.
I just knew that they were in employees that got spring locked and Afton covered up their bodies
the theory i believe is when the 2 springlock failures happened it created so much agony and formed them
name of the comic at 6:50 ?
graphic novel of the Fourth Closet, and then the graphic novel of Into the Pit
I just assumed they were the victims that got spring locked or something. This is my comment before watching the video!
Fun fact: RWQFSFASXC was originally supposed to have the black body and white eyes with Springtrap’s body but Scott didn’t consider making FNAF 3 at the time
That makes a lot more sense
What if????? RWQ is Old Man Consequences because he leads or tries to lead the angry soul to ease and let William Afton be with his demons. Since the mini game with RWQ has him giving a cake, he’s trying to lead them to be free.
Also, idk if RWQ was also the one luring the soul after the Chica, Bonnie, Freddy, and foxy animatronics was torn apart and their souls came out and went to the room where William afton is, to finish Afton off. Maybe?
That fact that you called shadow bonnie that way🤣
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They are Fear.
In One of the FNAF 4 Minigames…. Two Purple Shadows can appear, one resembling Shadow Freddy and one being A Shadow SpringBonnie……Representing CC’s Fear over Animatronics.
They are feeding off of CC’s Fear.
This is an extremely solid theory!
thank you! :)
Shadow freddy also appears in Fnaf 6 in the opening minigame i think
My theory is before the bite of 83 Shadow Bonnie and shadow Freddy then they ate human (Or maybe they are adult) springlocked and they're soul comed in idk what animatronic
Shadow bonnie appears on one of the TV's in Security breach ruin, just noting that
So now that the character encyclopedia is out we need a redo on this theory cus there’s more shadows there’s shadow puppet and I think shadow balloon boy
Yee
Since when were the toy animatronics possessed? Im genuinely curious bc I thought they just had glitchy criminal detection systems.
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The fact that he pronounced shadow bonnie's name
The shadow animatronics and we’re employees from the Freddy fazbears pizzeria that passed away while in a spring lock suit
I think the shadows are just the visions Michael sees sense William made him see visions of them which caused him to stay inside
Tbh i think Shadow Bonnie is SUPER underrated.
Idk if this makes me OG but I remember the original theory that shadow bonnie was spring tap/spring bonnie and shadow Freddy is Fred bear/golden Freddy
Personally I do agree that They Are Agony Beings.but from different incidents.
I think that Shadow Bonnie would be A Manifestation of the OG MCI
Kids agony.Maybe thats Why its so helpful to them because in a way…it is an Extension of them.
And shadow freddy would be The Bite Victim’s Own Agony being.
Considering that shadow freddy and Nightmare are recolors of Fredbear and all.
Also it would explain their appearance.BV’s agony would be of fredbear the animatronic that killed him and was the ine he feared most
And the MCI’s agony taking the form of Spring Bonnie the suit
That was used to kill them
Wonder how XOR (Shadow Dee Dee) fits into this theory… Perhaps a part two?
its funny that in AR, Shadow bonnie.. has a shadow 😂
I was 3 hours late :(
at least you're here! :)
@@HyperDroid :D
What about when shadow Bonnie appears in the fnaf 3 minigames?
Here’s a friendly reminder that the Crying child actually died in 1983 and not 1985
I’ve just guessed they were hallucinations
I have a theory but I am not sure about it
Willaim is shadow Freddy because in fnaf 3 mini game you play as an animatronic and shadow Freddy appears and tells you to follow him to the safe room after you follow him purple guy appears and destroys the animatronic because fnaf 2 is before fnaf 1 in the timeline so shadow Freddy may be the purple guy
You can see shadow bonnie on a sceen in secuity breach ruin