For once I think I have to disagree with ya. We don't want the game to be a full blown mil‐sim, we just want the game to feel grounded and close to it's theme.
Well “we” doesn’t represent everybody, and I guarantee there are more younger casual players that like the crazy skins and keep buying them. So you are most likely in the minority. Or else they wouldn’t be selling them like they do.
I hope more gamers learn to use the word grounded more often. A decent to great balance between arcade and simulation. The argument of "it's not a milsim" gets overused in bad faith to allow lower standards and bad tastes to thrive in modern gaming.
This feels oddly similar to the days of Advanced Warfare, Black Ops 3, Infinite Warfare, WW2 and Black Ops 4 where skins were criticized for clashing with the setting of the game. Well until MW2019 where the skins match the games setting. Just a funny realization I noticed.
While Call of Duty isn’t exactly a military sim, as someone who’s been way too deep into Escape from Tarkov, I can say it’s a nice, laid-back, milsim-lite experience. That is, until the vibe gets completely shattered when a shark takes me hostage, and my friend, a glowing girl with neon-orange hair shoos the shark and frees me. One of the reasons Modern Warfare 2019 was so successful is because it struck a perfect balance. It brought a realistic feel to the gameplay while keeping things arcade-like enough that you didn’t have to worry about someone exploiting hyper-realistic mechanics-like knowing every lean angle-just to snipe you in the name of “authenticity.”
Don't forget getting T-bagged by f--king rocket from guardians of the galaxy and then getting spawn trapped by an anime protagonist. I cannot wait for delta force to launch
For some reason it's 100% of each side of the spectrum for a lot of people. Everything is black and white. They don't understand the concept of a middle ground.
MW2019 skin bundles made a lot more sense because they stayed more faithful to the theme of the game and offered players a grand variety of tacti-cool fashion choices they would feel fits them even if looks kinda flashy and outta place like some that were all like Anime-UWU theme with a Cat Ears helmet, and having Fictional characters such as Rambo, the Terminator, and Lara Croft from Tomb Raider also made sense given that their characters share military themes to them which shows homage and recognition to their respective franchises as well, it makes more sense than having Nicki Minaj for example like they're showing just too much of wanting to compete with games such as Fortnite that it feels like this game is truly losing its identity.
I disagree, I think the 'Milsim' skin bundles fit in. They released bundles of realistic-looking spec ops operators before they decided to scrap that for mw2. Imo the last good campaign was Cold War. It felt good, it looked good. 2019 was great too. MW2 was meh because it felt like a hero shooter, and then MW3... well... yeah.
And with Cold War at least it was time relevant. The die hard collab was fine, wasn’t a fan of the Ghostface one but at least it was all 80s. Then Vanguard happened and I quit lol
and even on the lenient side of things, at least the Cat Girl helmet skin had real kit, like i don’t doubt a kit like that exists in real life and if someone’s crazy enough, would run it in combat.
The reason why this even is happening is because COD has a "vibe" which is of course "Milsim" not because of the mechanics but because of the feel of the game. Most players want a balance or more realistic skins and not a LOT of goofy ah colourful ones. MWII had a balance like that but that balance went non-existant with MWIII and now with bo6. So yeah COD from the beginning had a milsim feel but changing that feel a LOT, can cause mixed reactions from the community.
Never was supposed to be Mil- Sim. But it was never supposed to reverse into trying to be Fortnite either. COD is a game suffering from the biggest identity crisis in gaming which still today baffles me considering they had years of games that didn't, all the way back when COD was just a WW2 game. No one asked for it to be 100% realistic. But no one also said "No" to all the over the top skins, maps, and game modes either. There wasn't anything wrong with a military styled game with arcade-like characteristics? Don't get me wrong; every now and then, goofy skins and shit are ok, but now it's legit every game, every update, 100%, 365 days a year. At this point the only thing militant about the game is the campaign, 1/3 of the entire game. That's not only lazy, but lackluster creativity.
Yeah, when you see Black Ops 6's operator selector, most of the characters seem to not be wearing military stuff, and if they are, they have an alternate skin that is ridiculous. And what they have done to Adler and Sev is.....not to be spoken of.
Fortnite has completely jumped the shark too at this point, CoD shouldn’t be trying to copy them and pander to elementary schoolers. It’s all just too much. Fortnite was nice when it was simple, but now it’s gone insane and took normal gaming down with it.
For those who didn’t play in the Golden Era of CoD, what players loved about it was that it was an arcade game that felt grounded in reality. Key word “grounded!” The brand name has been built & they know mindless drones will blindly purchase skins on top of the game itself because CoD is the top game of the year & if you don’t get it then you’re a lame or something & nobody wants to be a lame!! They fill it with meaningless content like the celebrities who I doubt many play because they’re popular & people blindly follow them. Look at how many celebs came out to voice their opinion on the election & tell us who to vote for as if they live the same lives as the ordinary people. As soon as we stop viewing them as gods & DEMAND higher quality FINISHED products then they’ll continue to shove garbage in our faces!!
I kind of blame Fornite for the way the gaming industry is as a whole now, sure shit quality games existed before it but Fortnite's microtransaction business style spread like the damn plague into every single other game. Every darn game has a form of Battle Pass, even the simplest of mobile games like Angry Birds or Clash of Clan/Clash Royale have a Battle Pass.
@ I agree. Fortnite probably is the main cause of it all. There’s nothing wrong with wanting your profits to see a boost but when money becomes the SOLE priority rather than a quality product, or a finished product then that’s when there’s a problem!!
@@Sun-Warrior1911 Admittedly I like Warzone, and I do enjoy some of the stuff they do with it, such as expanding the story further. It's honestly given me ideas for content I hope to make in the future. Ik not many people enjoy it due to having to check in every 2 months or so for an update. My only gripe is that since the 2.0 release they heavily use it for money and everything is "Warzonified". Stuff still could of work out: Have a campaign like always Have a MP with maps centered around the locations the story cinematic shows, like they originally did with MW and BOCW. Have zombies still be its own thing and don't cross over characters from campaign. Warzone can still carry the story and have avoided bring in the silly cosmetics. Idk its just what I think they could have done.
@ For me Warzone is a cancer because it’s all about money. They couldn’t even bother leaving the old warzone up for the player who didn’t want mwii. I don’t like the continuation of the story in Warzone. It makes the campaign story feel half backed. They tell the story through cutscenes most of the time only to tell more of the story again through cutscenes? That’s a major reason why many of the campaigns felt like not much had happened in the story. They reuse maps from previous games & warzone, talk about lack of creativity and or effort. Oh and let’s not forget about how there are ZERO STAKES, NO CONSEQUENCES in these stories either. Nobody dies, gets captured, or tortured. SAFE AS HELL! Of course I don’t think zombies should have been messed with. It should be its own thing and it’s capable of standing on its own. MP nowadays is meant to cater to the ones who are just too afraid to die & get discouraged in a video game. I haven’t played in years but always check out videos to see if it’s truly worth coming back on to or not.
If Call of Duty became a mil-sim, I would not mind at all. The best experience I ever had in Call of Duty the last 5 years was the MWIII Event in Warzone. Operation Rogue Arsenal was absolutely epic. They want to monetize the game. That's fine. But instead of ridiculous skins, could they not design mil-sim outfits? Operation Rogue Arsenal where everyone played as Shadow Company Operators is the experience I would personally like to see in Call of Duty going forward. They can keep the multiplayer as it is, just replace the ridiculous skins with actual mil-sim skins.
@jamescpapg I'd love to see that as well I definitely want more skins inspired by mil sim on our campaign operators it would really be cool to see and I would actually sound money on that
@@BasilTownLandthe cordis die mercs from Bo2 look so cool. I’d pay 20 dollars just to have them as skins in the game. It’d even make sense too since bo6 takes place while menendez is gathering power and he’d surely have some sort of army of mercs.
I believe Star Wars Squadron has a setting that allows you to keep all the aesthetics canon friendly or something like that, I would like to see something like this implemented in a COD game
@@MaskedRider_FAIZ i saw video about it years ago , i think it was becouse that game made trailers with real ww2 veterans , some said it was not autentic or something. I saw it beeing used and turned on but idk where exactly, cant find any video of it now but if you can trust me i asure you it is or was a thing. Maybe they just deleted that option now
The only way to get rid of all of these skins is for everyone to stop buying the battlepass and to stop buying the skins and I mean EVERYONE but that’s the problem, it’ll never happen because most players keep feeding it
Won't happen because corporations got real smart by targeting certain audiences into buying the new (x) collab or hyped skins. And leakers and content creators only add fuel to that fire because they mutually benefit financially on it. And its essentially interpreted as if they don't buy this new cosmetic everyone's raving about they're not hip and a hater. Basically, it's delusion.
But to be fair, I don't care about the consumption of it. If you want to buy a 30 dollar skin that you're only going to use in 1st person mode (because nobody with common sense is playing any mode in 3rd person) and be a zombified consumer, go ahead. I just don't want to see the consumption being used. A quick setting option isn't that complicated.
My personal explanation of this COD skin issue comes from Ace Combat. The Ace Combat series never had realistic handling. But the planes in Ace Combat feel like how they look in a Hollywood film. The player does crazy maneuvers to get behind a bandit, the missile locks, pulls the trigger, and BOOM! Splash one. Similarly, to most people's expectations, COD depicts what the military feels like in a Hollywood film. The movements are much faster and the combat is much more intense than the real one. Therefore, even if COD is not a mil-sim, like in Hollywood, people should dress like the military and use guns that a real operator would use. However, the skins they are selling now are like those character models a bored teenager would mod into L4D2 just because they can look funny (Russianbadger's video on L4D2 perfectly demonstrates this point). Although occasionally it can be funny, gradually, they will be out of place and jarring like those B movies that feature out-of-place popular characters just so the title looks eye-catching. I think this is what most OG COD players have problem with. Additionally, I believe the intended audiences of COD are mostly adults who have mostly grown out of the bored teenager stage. Still, as long as there are people who pay for these B skins, the problem will never be resolved. Corporate greed will shatter any vision a game director imposes on a studio.
People aren't looking for realism but literally just immersion, when people play a military themed game and is literally called "call of DUTY". And the skins ruin the game's soul and makes it look like a generic triple A cash grab video game wich it really just is sadly
- "I don't want a Shark skin on this COD game. Doesn't make sense." -"OhhH yoU tHiNk tHis Is A MiL-Sim??!" -"No, I don't want a Shark Clown in a game about 90s military. -" COD iS ArCaDe YoU kNoW? NoT a MilSiM 😭🤡"
I think the option to disable skins in matches such that players can either see players with stupid skins or players with default skins just like what World of Tanks Blitz did.
My favorite vibe in any cod game has to be Bo2 because it feels like you can control how the game feels to you. You can use a wacky skin on your gun with panda bears and glitter and a camo that looks like a dragon or you can use a basic camo that makes sense for your gun to have and play slowly and tactically. You won’t see Nicki Minaj and a giant shark running around but not every one is a random soldier in a turban. The multitude of factions makes each matchup feel different because even though there’s no customizable skins your enemies don’t look the same every match. Each map has different matchups of factions to fight each other and even if your enemies have crazy sparkly canoes on their guns it’s not the first thing you notice. You won’t be distracted by your teammate turning into a giant blunt when they die or exploding into rainbows. The game feels how you want it to.
As a Arma player myself. I don't want CoD to become a full blown milsim. I would like something like a mix of MW19 and MW22. If you played any of those games during it's life cycle you'll most likely know what I mean. Oh and bring back DMZ that shit was gas lowkey
@chaithethai9171 I know but after playing since it's launch, using every weapon in the game countless times over countless hours. I would've liked to have DMZ made into a mode like WZ was able to have integrations like MW19 did with cold war and shitguard MW3's weapons imported into DMZ would've been a godsend imo
I’m someone in the middle. I like how weird it is to see a random skin that just feels so out of place but at the same time I also prefer back in the old Black Ops days where your character really could never be customized
It’s a war game I don’t care that it’s supposed to not be taken to seriously but that’s the point it’s a war game I don’t need to see people running around as fucking anime snoop dog or whatever the hell it I don’t get why there isn’t an option to turn that off if anything it’s distracting and it’s hurt the identity of the game they want to be to much like Fortnite not their own style
I'm 14 and I love mil-sims and I also like arcade shooters the same goes for my friends I don't get why people debate and argue so much over this cod shouldn't be a mil-sim nor an arcade game it should be something in between with options to choose in which way you want to play it just like this one mentioned in the video to turn these obnoxious skins and weapons on and off (and if possible to even choose which guns and skins you want to replace them for) and some other settings or even a gamemode that could be added to make the game more realistic like a gamemode were movement is more grounded and there is no omni and/or demon movement but still keeping the slide and dolphin dice movement options now with all this I'm not saying the arcade style of cod should be removed for example me and my friends mil-sim in warzone since that is the only cod we share we've been looking to buy MW2019 to lkay cod even more tactical with like ardcore mode pr provate matches ans CO-OP and stuff but for now we only have warzone to play like that so it doesn't bother us if we find other players with demon movement or crazy guns in our matches since we understand that not every player likes to play like that so they don't have to play how we want anf in fact like I said we like playing the arcade way sometimes to cool off we lut these obnoxious skind and gind with razy attachments and camos and just forget about the tactical playstyle and chill for a bit that's why I day we should have these options and/or gamemodes ofc free since I don't want to pay 3.99$ to be switching my options or gamemodes just to play in a certain way but all of this is just me and my friend's opinion so takr it with a grain of salt eitherway Activision is not going to add this sincr it would take a lot of time and money and I don't think it will make them enkugh money when finished nut it wiuld still be cool
The fact that there's no "mil-sim" operator for both factions in the game is crazy. Pretty sure Woods, Stone and Reyan are the only operators with plate carriers... everyone else is wearing a hoodie or something...
All the communication around MW2019 was precisely about war, its harshness, the action of special forces, etc. And since MWII, change has come. And it was going pretty well, but Warzone broke a few things about the realism they were aiming for. And since MWII, a drastic change with skins of Messi, Neymar, Niki Minaj and strange demons, and it's been going on and on ever since. Now they're mixing Warzone, Zombie and Solo (which I don't accept at all), and the context/anchor to reality has disappeared. Of course, it's not a conflict simulator, but Call of Duty isn't in the same league as Fortnite either.
Why is it every time someone says they want Call of Duty to make sense again. Others say "oh you want it to be mil-sim" no thats not what we said! When we say we want Call of Duty to feel like old cod, there needs to have military stuff.
You know I’m surprised more people didn’t know that already. It seems like they tried going for a more semi grounded approach with the reboot of modern warfare, which is why ww3 has not happened in the last game.
Just give us p diddy, drake, keep snoop, and have one superhero skin every season but preferably two. Beyond that I hope they really do bring back the grounded vibe
i only hate about call of duty is that they bring some fancy crappy celebrities, fictional superheroes, and japanese anime operators like Nicki minaj, homelander, devin booker and others.
I think something that would help solve this issue is a mode where you can apply all your purchased skins to other operators in multiplayer matches. That way you can increase the value of the skins you buy because you can coat other players with your own skins pre match.
I would pay to turn them off too this is ridiculous especially these fire skins all of them look so similar and they're on both F-ing teams which is confusing AF
Yeah I agree there should be an option to turn them off, meaning no skin for your character nor the other players, but if you want to use a skin then you must turn that option on and deal with the other players' skins....but we know damn well that will never happen -.-'
For me I don't care about the colorful skins but, I do feel there needs to be more of a balance with the grounded and more realistic skins for the 90s era (US Delta Force, or Army Rangers, etc.) featured more predominantly in the shop.
I am kinda torn on the subject as I complained back in MWIII about Rick and Michonne being put into the game, and yet, I had bought Homelander back in MWII, so I had no right to complain. But I will say that I don't really get what attracts people to those sorts of skins, especially if they make you stick out. But I will say that they do have their place, especially in something like MWIII, where its multiplayer was and wasn't part of the story, and we were getting different reskins of maps that would make it a bit more 'out there' and so those skins do fit that sort of game, however, in BO6, it's set in the 90s and seeing a guy in a meat suit or someone in dragon armor, can take you out of the game a little if you're imagining you're going up against Patheon and when you're Rogue Black Ops and then you see a person in dragon armor. I think it's also irritated people with BO6 because, like you said, Treyarch said that they were going to at least cut back on stuff like that and yet, it seems like they've stepped it up, so basically making them liars, which of course would be hurtful to the Treyarch fans. As for the mil-sim side of stuff? I mean, I know it's never really been a mil-sim. Maybe MW2019 was a step in that direction, but for someone like me who's on console, I can't just 'go play a Mil-sim game' because the variety is very bare, so I'm basically stuck with COD and I put up with the antics that come with it.
All i want, is for them to stick to the tone, aesthetic and timeframe of the setting. What is the point of picking a setting, building an identity and feel around said setting to then a month later, fill it with garbage skins and multicoloured tracers. Its getting to the point when you pick a screenshot of any CoD in the past years, and genuinely struggle to differentiate between the settings.
So many people don’t understand this. They think that since one aspect of the game isn’t realistic, then everything else can be thrown out the window and the immersion can be reduced to just Fortnite skins.
Activision is a huge company that makes many games. I believe that if they wanted to they could make two separate games, one appealing to the players that want milsim and another that appeals to skins and crazy looking guns.
@@joshuacollins9316This too, thats the reason they also stopped with season passes and paid DLCs, people who couldnt bought were separated from those who had them and those who had them barely played got matches because the majority just bought the base game
Yeah true i wasn’t thinking completely rationally. But i mean Activision is a huge company that could make two different kind of games at once, maybe not the same name.
halo mcc has a switch in the options where you can turn off skins that don’t fit with the og art style. everyone who uses an armor piece that’s dlc appears as a default spartan, while for them they still have their skins.
That would be great solution so people could stop whining over what other spend their money in, but that has been an option in COD Mobile since like forever and hasnt being implemented on the main games, so it's safe to say that it aint happening
People that say “go play a milsim game than” don’t understand that most people that play call of duty are on console, console is hella dry when it comes to milsim, yeah we have insurgency sandstorm but that’s about it, plus that game is getting kinda old, we want something new, all the good milsim games are on pc and not everyone can afford one
While it does get annoying seeing colourful skins every at times, people REALLY expect realistic skins in a game where people get diddied on the daily and do crazy things with omni-movement?
Charlie's tweet is like saying that someone is asking to own a multi-trillion dollar company because they've asked to set up a street-shop. We don't want a mil-sim, most of us aren't asking for a mil-sim. We just want COD to feel immersive again and be given the option to rightfully block out annoying skins and gun effects.
It's About The "Vibe" And The Ambiance. I Think They Should Have A Toggle In The Settings (Client Side) For Us Who Dislike The "Immersion" Being Broken. I Understand logistically, It's Not Going To Happen With The Current Warzone. But It Should Be A Setting In Bo6 And All Games Moving Forward. If Someone Wants To Play As A Humanoid Shark, I Say Go Right Ahead But, Don't Force That On Me. Let That Person Use That And Let Other People See That Skin That Don't Have That Silly Stuff Toggled Off In The Settings.
It's always gonna be a eternal debate. But me personally, I believe that in a healthy balance of both Mil Sim and Goofy. Activision gonna always follow the money and only the money at the end of the day. That's just how it is as a multi billion dollar corporation. But if we can't all come together and find a constructive middle ground to please both sides, nothing will change. Maybe they should start throwing in ways to offer Mil Sim/campaign themed skins as free rewards if they not gonna sell them. Or add then in the battle pass because the demand is clearly there and will continue to be there. Take a look at the Modern Warfare side, there's still players to this day(me including) who really want Soap's campaign skin from MW2(2022). Like going back to the days if MW 2019, you see why the desire is there.
i dont want a milsim, i want a fast paced military arcade shooter. bo6 looked sick in its first week because other then the vault skins every skin fit the theme.
Personally I’m not too hurt about skins as long as they make since in some type of way like the soda machine guy, parasite or dragon bundle cause those things skins are related to Black ops and cod in some type of way, but just to put a skin bundle of shark or raccoon like that makes absolutely no sense with the game in general. If they do make a mil sim implementation in the game somehow later on I think I’d take back the money for the skin bundles I purchased already.
Why does it have to be ither one extreme or the other? Either mil-sim, or shark skins? It's like people forgot that there used to be middle-ground military shooters, those that were kinda aracady in terms of gameplay, but still felt authentic and grounded.
Yeah i never understood why set it in the 90s and not put cool 90s themed skins? Cold war did it just fine, we had scream, rambo, terminator and die hard , but instead were getting these weird out of place skins...
To me, an option is always good. We've been wanting the option to turn off the ridiculous cosmetics since 2019. Call of Duty used to be aesthetically in-line with the theme of the game, the theme of the story... it might not be a mil-sim but you don't see frickin' King Shark fighting with Deltas in World War 3, way back in 2011. Gameplay wise it's bad for the visibility, sometimes the effects are too over the top your eyes can't track the enemies in gunfights. Sometimes the skins are too many to the point where you can't memorize them all, making you unable to differentiate who is who in a match. Hell the vanilla operators are hard to differentiate already because of how aesthetically similar they are with eachother. Back then Deltas wore multicams, Rangers wore UCP, Marines with the MARPAT, Russians with the fictionalized Red Woodland camo. What happened to those??
You know what’s really irritating me and making me mad? The hypocrisy. See, when Infinity Ward did these skins with MWII and III, everyone LOATHED these bundles and used the “wah it’s supposed to be a realistic military simulator, wah😭”. But then come to Black Ops 6 made by Treyarch, the prize pony that everyone seems to like to put on a pedestal. They do THE EXACT SAME THING and I have not seen nearly a single comment the same kind people have Infinity Ward! Like I keep on saying: let multiplayer have fun for once and if you want “realism”, go play the campaign!
What are you talking about? Sledgehammer is the one that gets all the hate. Treyarch gets less hate for weird skins because Black Ops is a weirder series and isn't as grounded seeming as Modern Warfare. That doesn't excuse a lot of the skins in my view.
You're so right. I'm going to stop critiquing, uh, I mean complaining about the mrbeastification of all consumption for a gaslit target audience, not because of a deep passion but because I'm not goated, or epic, I'm a hater. I'm going to take your advice and blindly go play my fabulously written story with an incredibly realistic campaign where I fight 6 legged aliens and weeping angel zombies. Shame on me for not being a corperate consuming zombie loyalist. I think I should go play fortnite for a solid week, and I need to rethink my decisions... more so not think at al!
I'm late on some of these videos. Although CoD is an arcade shooter I miss back in the day when we didn't have these crazy skins. Also when these operators were introduced in mw2019 most of the skins were mil-sim style skins. Not Nikki Manaj or 21 Savage or Wubz. The fact that people pay $20 for them is wild too
One of the other things I’ve disliked is the focus on non-U.S. characters. I mean yeah there has been at least like 13-14 U.S. operators including milsim but not including crossover characters or the mini-collabs with tactical influencers like the Ronin or Warrior operators, but there’ve been a severe lack of skins for those operators. Like I just wanted a male U.S. operator with nods down on the “good” side and they didn’t release anything like that until the Batch Test and Balloon Test skins for Jabber and those are goofy looking mannequin skins. And they didn’t even get many of the flashy Ultra or Reactive skins, there’s only the Godzilla one for Jabber that’s basically a reskin of the skin from Vanguard, and a couple for Byline. If they’re not gonna give me cool milsim U.S. skins at least give me ultra skins for U.S. characters that aren’t recycled garbage. Instead some nobody from the fictional Urzikstan gets 2 ultra skins, several crossover skins and the Infinite Warfare themed BP skin. And they could’ve waited and did the ETH.3N skin until Alex was released since a robot leg or even both legs being robot legs would fit the character, but instead they gave it to some Costa Rican guy. I mean yeah the non-U.S. characters should get cool skins too but it’s just a shame they just completely forget the U.S. characters when making skins.
I just don’t understand the pushback, back in the day all this was just camo packs and they were a dollar, yeah some of its cool, but I feel like it’s going a bit too far nowadays
It is hardly considered a flex if you're just showing off something you just paid money to unlock over wearing something you can earn by simply putting time and effort of just playing the game.
I think people mean they want mil sim skins and not turn the game into a mil sim, like the crazy over the top skins can co-exist with the milsim skins imo. Really wish they'd release mil sim skins soon though
I willing to pay $100 a year to turn off the garbage that Treyach has put into the game and if they dont allow me to turn off this annoying trash I will be done with the game and uninstall the pathetic rubish it has already now become!
I cant even be bothered to play half of the characters in the game, just give me the build your character from the older games, ill pay for every piece of clothing if i have to, but i want to make a soldier, not wait for a cool skin after goofy skins
CoD and BF have no need to become milsims at the same rate they have no need for those goofy player skins Insurgency and Insurgency: Sandstorm are great arcade fps games with fast ttk and no clutter in your HUD. When the devs tried to introduced goofy skins in SANDSTORM they were bulli'd into oblivion to the point of giving up and cutting the skin altogether Weird weapon skins: i'm down. Because it's something you can recreate in your own guns irl. Weird character skins: Hell nah, get rid of operators and give us back nameless/faceless soldiers
I’m just gonna say what everyone else is saying, yea idm if it’s not realistic, because realism is kinda lame sometimes, but I also don’t wanna be sniped by a shark man with a bright neon flashy pink anime gun. Like at least make them look a little more realistic kinda like with MW19, or Cold War (slightly)
It would be really nice to be able to turn off the skins these don't feel like black ops games with these obnoxious bright skins I understand it makes them money but it's just FPS fortnite at this point.
Honestly it might make Activision more money if they made it to where we could customize every aspect of our operator. Similarly to Ghost Recon or another game with that level or more advanced level of customization. Knowing then they’d nickel and dime you for that but it’s ridiculous that most of these packs are $20-$24 when it’s just mostly filled with bullshit anyhow. I want the milsim skins back. I have zero interest in the flashy, Fortnite-esque skins.
They should add back old customization from the first Black Ops game in multiplayer. You can make it from different factions, like America, Pantheon, and other factions/countries that appear in the BO6 campaign. It’d be cool to run around as a Pantheon soldier, killing the entire lobby on a Free-For-All match. I do think the skins look ridiculous, and I do think we should have a setting that turns them off, but they should still make them in future games, because as you said, a lot of people buy these skins, so if we just removed it in future games entirely, many players would quit the game, or would spend less money on the game.
This is a dumb Argument, there isnt 2 sides, why would there be, it's an option for one person to not see it, what are you gonna do? Cry because I can't see your rainbow Rat suit? Who cares, Its as simple as, ok cool add it, don't cry and shut the idea down
Its not that past games were more milsim. Its that CoD games used to take themselves and their settings more seriously. It was always hollywood as hell but the games played it straight. You never had shit like modern guns being added to a WW2 game, or this ridiculous obsession with over designed MP characters and skins that have nothing to do with the setting or theme of the game.
My thing is Call of Duty has never been a military simulator game to me. It's always been an actionggg movie arcade shooter and that's what it's always been. After the more serious games, Call of Duty went for an action movie set piece, you know, big explosions, massive gunfights, you know, movie action scenes and everything. And it never took itself that seriously when it came to what Call of Duty was. It had good stories, but at the end of the day, it's an action game. So they gave us those action hero set pieces. By the way, multiplayer is, it's weird to say that you want a military sim for multiplayer when people can dolphin dive, you know, do crazy equipment, use scorestreaks or killstreaks depending on the game. They do all this action, non-realistic military sim shit and yet skins are too far. People running around with golden, diamond camo guns and yet freaking guy wearing the dog suit over here is too much. It doesn't make any sense. If you want total military sim, then we should take away all the skins, the gun skins and everything because those paint jobs aren't military sim either. You can't have your cake and eat it too. You can't bitch about the operator skins and not bitch about the camo skins, the calling cards and everything else. That's not military simulation.
And by the way, older Call of Duty games had silly fucking skins. Advanced Warfare had a clown skin, Gunzo, and a gingerbread man skin. Call of Duty Ghost had a bunch of weed-inspired skins and different camo sets, and they had pretty weird ones as well. And that's going on and on. Black Ops 3, some silly-ass skins. You know, Infinite Warfare, World War 2. We have had these skins for a while now. So, we just gotta get over it.
Fully agree with you I hated these skins ever since black ops Cold War and cod should stay a realistic themed arcade gameplay style shooter. And also these clowns like CharlieINTEL say that just to engagement farm they know it’s a shitty take he posts it every year bro his rent was just due
The whole idea of a “mil sim” is douchy af, as if being in the military could ever be replicated in a game, thinking of a game as a mil sim is just a way for edge lords to get themselves off
Dude all respect, how old are you? I mean like early 20’s? Because COD was literally the closest game to a military shooter, a military FPS. I completely agree with your video, but COD WAS the military SIM. It’s not anymore because of Fortnite and DEI BS. Otherwise I agree with you whole video.
For so long for console players Cod and Battlefield were the premier mil-sim experiences on console, rainbow six disappeared for a very long time after Vegas 2, and came back a shell of its former self, ghost recon was in a near futuristic setting at the time, and well SOCOM died and Sony is just sitting on the ip doing nothing with it since ps3. That golden era of Cod and Battlefield is what of us into true mil sim stuff later on, once they started down this current path, but mw2019 for all its faults atleast attempted to keep to the “modern warfare” theme for a while, and it became one of my favorite cods, but the part that pisses me off with bo6 is they couldnt go even a month, A single fucking month, before adding the stupid shit
I agree completely that the mil-sim game that I and a good majority of the fan base have enjoyed for years is now gone. Could it come back? Maybe but who knows. Activision cares more about making as much money as they can from the games they produce. Everyone wants to copy and paste Fortnite content because it was so successful with the younger demographic.
Imagine being told by other players. " "If you want a Military Sim than go play one". I dont care what anyone says. Call of Duty is a Military based competitive Multiplayer, and story based game. Take Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 and before. Any and all games before. They are night and day difference from back then and now. I would say black ops 2 and before are True Call of Duty. The game has changed since then. For the worst.
@@usernamepassword236 I am wrong?! Where? Prove me wrong, saying I am wrong does not make me wrong, but we all know that Call of Duty is a Military based game. Evidence is shown by the titles like - World At War - WWII (meaning World War II ) - Modern Warfare 1,2, and 3 - Cold War Plus look it up on Google you will find and read: "Call of Duty is a MILITARY first-person shooter video game series and media franchise published by Activision, starting in 2003." ( I put the word in caps so you cannot miss it. ) To think that Call of Duty is not a Military based game is the same as actually thinking it is fortnite when we know it is not. I know I am right, and I can back my shit up, do you really need more source? Everything I stated here is basic common sense.
@usernamepassword236 Where am I wrong here? Please prove me wrong. 1.) Games in this "Call of Duty" Franchise all Mention "War" in the title. - Call of Duty 4 Modern Warfare - Call of Duty: World At War - Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 - Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 - Call of Duty: WWII ( World War II ) - Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War 2.) You can look up and google what call of duty is. It will tell you it is a "Military first person shooter" keyword "Military". Ask google what type of game Call of Duty is and you'll get the same answer. I don't know I'm wrong, I know I'm right. It is a Military based game that has a story and is competitive within multiplayer. I shared this before and I don't see it now, so I shared this again.
Call of Duty should never be a military-tactical game and they shouldn't even try to be, because every time they try, they fail in that direction, see CoD MW 2. I've always seen Call of Duty games as movie games, whether it was campaign, multiplayer, zombies or Warzone. And as for the skins, there were never any funny, grotesque or ridiculous skins in the battle pass, there were always quite serious or serious skins. And as for the "extra skins" that are in the store, right next to the shark one, you have two military, one hunting and then one sci-fi military, so I find it funny how people deliberately choose those special skins and draw attention to them, and that they prefer to leave out the serious skins next to them. But I can say for myself, yes, I mind skins like crazy smiley, hot dog, etc., etc., but I don't have a problem with a skin that looks nice or looks rough, so yes, the shark suit is totally fine in my opinion, because it's just a cool suit.
Thank god Black ops was on gamepass, cause I only played the campaign and some multiplayer (before obnoxious skins), and I saved myself $70. Im not doing the stupid skins, get your use out of it on gamepass, then play tarkov after is my philosophy
For once I think I have to disagree with ya. We don't want the game to be a full blown mil‐sim, we just want the game to feel grounded and close to it's theme.
@KynixYT I think maybe I sent the wrong message with the video I want what you want I the game to feel grounded and close to the theme as well 😭
@@BranWolfYTmy bad I just saw the thumbnail and was like "this dude really wants the game to be fornite 2.0" 😭
Well “we” doesn’t represent everybody, and I guarantee there are more younger casual players that like the crazy skins and keep buying them. So you are most likely in the minority.
Or else they wouldn’t be selling them like they do.
I hope more gamers learn to use the word grounded more often. A decent to great balance between arcade and simulation.
The argument of "it's not a milsim" gets overused in bad faith to allow lower standards and bad tastes to thrive in modern gaming.
This feels oddly similar to the days of Advanced Warfare, Black Ops 3, Infinite Warfare, WW2 and Black Ops 4 where skins were criticized for clashing with the setting of the game. Well until MW2019 where the skins match the games setting. Just a funny realization I noticed.
While Call of Duty isn’t exactly a military sim, as someone who’s been way too deep into Escape from Tarkov, I can say it’s a nice, laid-back, milsim-lite experience. That is, until the vibe gets completely shattered when a shark takes me hostage, and my friend, a glowing girl with neon-orange hair shoos the shark and frees me.
One of the reasons Modern Warfare 2019 was so successful is because it struck a perfect balance. It brought a realistic feel to the gameplay while keeping things arcade-like enough that you didn’t have to worry about someone exploiting hyper-realistic mechanics-like knowing every lean angle-just to snipe you in the name of “authenticity.”
very good take
Don't forget getting T-bagged by f--king rocket from guardians of the galaxy and then getting spawn trapped by an anime protagonist.
I cannot wait for delta force to launch
For some reason it's 100% of each side of the spectrum for a lot of people. Everything is black and white. They don't understand the concept of a middle ground.
What’s your favorite gun in Tarkov?
LMFAO spoken like a true delusionist!
MW2019 skin bundles made a lot more sense because they stayed more faithful to the theme of the game and offered players a grand variety of tacti-cool fashion choices they would feel fits them even if looks kinda flashy and outta place like some that were all like Anime-UWU theme with a Cat Ears helmet, and having Fictional characters such as Rambo, the Terminator, and Lara Croft from Tomb Raider also made sense given that their characters share military themes to them which shows homage and recognition to their respective franchises as well, it makes more sense than having Nicki Minaj for example like they're showing just too much of wanting to compete with games such as Fortnite that it feels like this game is truly losing its identity.
I disagree, I think the 'Milsim' skin bundles fit in. They released bundles of realistic-looking spec ops operators before they decided to scrap that for mw2. Imo the last good campaign was Cold War. It felt good, it looked good. 2019 was great too. MW2 was meh because it felt like a hero shooter, and then MW3... well... yeah.
And with Cold War at least it was time relevant. The die hard collab was fine, wasn’t a fan of the Ghostface one but at least it was all 80s. Then Vanguard happened and I quit lol
and even on the lenient side of things, at least the Cat Girl helmet skin had real kit, like i don’t doubt a kit like that exists in real life and if someone’s crazy enough, would run it in combat.
Cod ain’t a milsim but is military themed, which is a theme we like and want to keep
The reason why this even is happening is because COD has a "vibe" which is of course "Milsim" not because of the mechanics but because of the feel of the game. Most players want a balance or more realistic skins and not a LOT of goofy ah colourful ones. MWII had a balance like that but that balance went non-existant with MWIII and now with bo6. So yeah COD from the beginning had a milsim feel but changing that feel a LOT, can cause mixed reactions from the community.
Never was supposed to be Mil- Sim. But it was never supposed to reverse into trying to be Fortnite either. COD is a game suffering from the biggest identity crisis in gaming which still today baffles me considering they had years of games that didn't, all the way back when COD was just a WW2 game. No one asked for it to be 100% realistic. But no one also said "No" to all the over the top skins, maps, and game modes either. There wasn't anything wrong with a military styled game with arcade-like characteristics? Don't get me wrong; every now and then, goofy skins and shit are ok, but now it's legit every game, every update, 100%, 365 days a year. At this point the only thing militant about the game is the campaign, 1/3 of the entire game. That's not only lazy, but lackluster creativity.
Yeah, when you see Black Ops 6's operator selector, most of the characters seem to not be wearing military stuff, and if they are, they have an alternate skin that is ridiculous. And what they have done to Adler and Sev is.....not to be spoken of.
LMFAO spoken like a true delusionist!
@@channel45853what did they do to Adler??? 😢
Fortnite has completely jumped the shark too at this point, CoD shouldn’t be trying to copy them and pander to elementary schoolers. It’s all just too much. Fortnite was nice when it was simple, but now it’s gone insane and took normal gaming down with it.
@@channel45853because black ops is about the CIA and undercover work they're not supposed to be wearing full military gear at least not at all times
For those who didn’t play in the Golden Era of CoD, what players loved about it was that it was an arcade game that felt grounded in reality. Key word “grounded!” The brand name has been built & they know mindless drones will blindly purchase skins on top of the game itself because CoD is the top game of the year & if you don’t get it then you’re a lame or something & nobody wants to be a lame!! They fill it with meaningless content like the celebrities who I doubt many play because they’re popular & people blindly follow them. Look at how many celebs came out to voice their opinion on the election & tell us who to vote for as if they live the same lives as the ordinary people. As soon as we stop viewing them as gods & DEMAND higher quality FINISHED products then they’ll continue to shove garbage in our faces!!
This is what we're trying to say but they still call us haters... like dude, their damn greed is what is killing the franchise at this point.
I kind of blame Fornite for the way the gaming industry is as a whole now, sure shit quality games existed before it but Fortnite's microtransaction business style spread like the damn plague into every single other game.
Every darn game has a form of Battle Pass, even the simplest of mobile games like Angry Birds or Clash of Clan/Clash Royale have a Battle Pass.
@ I agree. Fortnite probably is the main cause of it all. There’s nothing wrong with wanting your profits to see a boost but when money becomes the SOLE priority rather than a quality product, or a finished product then that’s when there’s a problem!!
@@Sun-Warrior1911 Admittedly I like Warzone, and I do enjoy some of the stuff they do with it, such as expanding the story further. It's honestly given me ideas for content I hope to make in the future.
Ik not many people enjoy it due to having to check in every 2 months or so for an update. My only gripe is that since the 2.0 release they heavily use it for money and everything is "Warzonified".
Stuff still could of work out:
Have a campaign like always
Have a MP with maps centered around the locations the story cinematic shows, like they originally did with MW and BOCW.
Have zombies still be its own thing and don't cross over characters from campaign.
Warzone can still carry the story and have avoided bring in the silly cosmetics.
Idk its just what I think they could have done.
@ For me Warzone is a cancer because it’s all about money. They couldn’t even bother leaving the old warzone up for the player who didn’t want mwii.
I don’t like the continuation of the story in Warzone. It makes the campaign story feel half backed. They tell the story through cutscenes most of the time only to tell more of the story again through cutscenes? That’s a major reason why many of the campaigns felt like not much had happened in the story. They reuse maps from previous games & warzone, talk about lack of creativity and or effort. Oh and let’s not forget about how there are ZERO STAKES, NO CONSEQUENCES in these stories either. Nobody dies, gets captured, or tortured. SAFE AS HELL!
Of course I don’t think zombies should have been messed with. It should be its own thing and it’s capable of standing on its own. MP nowadays is meant to cater to the ones who are just too afraid to die & get discouraged in a video game. I haven’t played in years but always check out videos to see if it’s truly worth coming back on to or not.
If Call of Duty became a mil-sim, I would not mind at all. The best experience I ever had in Call of Duty the last 5 years was the MWIII Event in Warzone. Operation Rogue Arsenal was absolutely epic. They want to monetize the game. That's fine. But instead of ridiculous skins, could they not design mil-sim outfits? Operation Rogue Arsenal where everyone played as Shadow Company Operators is the experience I would personally like to see in Call of Duty going forward. They can keep the multiplayer as it is, just replace the ridiculous skins with actual mil-sim skins.
@jamescpapg I'd love to see that as well I definitely want more skins inspired by mil sim on our campaign operators it would really be cool to see and I would actually sound money on that
@@BranWolfYT Did you play Operation Rogue Arsenal at all? I played it like 20 times and leveled almost all my weapons to max rank through the event.
@@BranWolfYTMil-Sim lives matter
I would unironically pay 30 dollars for a bo2 MERC remaster skin instead of a skyrim dragon slayer or whatever they're sell now
@@BasilTownLandthe cordis die mercs from Bo2 look so cool. I’d pay 20 dollars just to have them as skins in the game. It’d even make sense too since bo6 takes place while menendez is gathering power and he’d surely have some sort of army of mercs.
COD has devolved into a cartoon.
I remember mw2019 having so much cool milsim skins my favorite was USEF and on on enemy side was Russian in camo
I believe Star Wars Squadron has a setting that allows you to keep all the aesthetics canon friendly or something like that, I would like to see something like this implemented in a COD game
Yeah, I agree, a setting like that would be pretty good.
Cod ww2 had that
@@cheatox1 Seriously? I was playing it earlier this year and never found anything like that.
@@MaskedRider_FAIZ i saw video about it years ago , i think it was becouse that game made trailers with real ww2 veterans , some said it was not autentic or something.
I saw it beeing used and turned on but idk where exactly, cant find any video of it now but if you can trust me i asure you it is or was a thing. Maybe they just deleted that option now
The only way to get rid of all of these skins is for everyone to stop buying the battlepass and to stop buying the skins and I mean EVERYONE but that’s the problem, it’ll never happen because most players keep feeding it
Yeah definitely won't happen 😭
Won't happen because corporations got real smart by targeting certain audiences into buying the new (x) collab or hyped skins. And leakers and content creators only add fuel to that fire because they mutually benefit financially on it. And its essentially interpreted as if they don't buy this new cosmetic everyone's raving about they're not hip and a hater. Basically, it's delusion.
But to be fair, I don't care about the consumption of it. If you want to buy a 30 dollar skin that you're only going to use in 1st person mode (because nobody with common sense is playing any mode in 3rd person) and be a zombified consumer, go ahead. I just don't want to see the consumption being used. A quick setting option isn't that complicated.
My personal explanation of this COD skin issue comes from Ace Combat. The Ace Combat series never had realistic handling. But the planes in Ace Combat feel like how they look in a Hollywood film. The player does crazy maneuvers to get behind a bandit, the missile locks, pulls the trigger, and BOOM! Splash one.
Similarly, to most people's expectations, COD depicts what the military feels like in a Hollywood film. The movements are much faster and the combat is much more intense than the real one. Therefore, even if COD is not a mil-sim, like in Hollywood, people should dress like the military and use guns that a real operator would use.
However, the skins they are selling now are like those character models a bored teenager would mod into L4D2 just because they can look funny (Russianbadger's video on L4D2 perfectly demonstrates this point). Although occasionally it can be funny, gradually, they will be out of place and jarring like those B movies that feature out-of-place popular characters just so the title looks eye-catching. I think this is what most OG COD players have problem with. Additionally, I believe the intended audiences of COD are mostly adults who have mostly grown out of the bored teenager stage.
Still, as long as there are people who pay for these B skins, the problem will never be resolved. Corporate greed will shatter any vision a game director imposes on a studio.
Asking for Shadow Company skins instead of Nicki Minaj or Snoop Dog's is the most reasonable thing the CoD community has ever asked.
Weird weapon camos = YES
Weird operator skins = NOOO!!!
No I personally hate both 😅
@@Reefer-Rampage69agreed
I would like the weird skins only for the zombies tbh as for multiplayer only Dark Matter is the one I like
Weapon camos are free but operator skins no
weapon camos on enemy's hand is unnoticable.
Perhaps a “realistic mode” would help solve some of the issues?
I'd like that
I hate goofy ass skins but I'm fine with them being in the game as long as they also give me milsim skins that look like fakin soldiers
Yeah we need more of those
People aren't looking for realism but literally just immersion, when people play a military themed game and is literally called "call of DUTY". And the skins ruin the game's soul and makes it look like a generic triple A cash grab video game wich it really just is sadly
- "I don't want a Shark skin on this COD game. Doesn't make sense."
-"OhhH yoU tHiNk tHis Is A MiL-Sim??!"
-"No, I don't want a Shark Clown in a game about 90s military.
-" COD iS ArCaDe YoU kNoW? NoT a MilSiM 😭🤡"
It's not about the 90's military
I think the option to disable skins in matches such that players can either see players with stupid skins or players with default skins just like what World of Tanks Blitz did.
My favorite vibe in any cod game has to be Bo2 because it feels like you can control how the game feels to you. You can use a wacky skin on your gun with panda bears and glitter and a camo that looks like a dragon or you can use a basic camo that makes sense for your gun to have and play slowly and tactically. You won’t see Nicki Minaj and a giant shark running around but not every one is a random soldier in a turban. The multitude of factions makes each matchup feel different because even though there’s no customizable skins your enemies don’t look the same every match. Each map has different matchups of factions to fight each other and even if your enemies have crazy sparkly canoes on their guns it’s not the first thing you notice. You won’t be distracted by your teammate turning into a giant blunt when they die or exploding into rainbows. The game feels how you want it to.
As a Arma player myself. I don't want CoD to become a full blown milsim. I would like something like a mix of MW19 and MW22. If you played any of those games during it's life cycle you'll most likely know what I mean.
Oh and bring back DMZ that shit was gas lowkey
You can still play DMZ btw, when you open CoDHQ and select MW2 it should give you the option to launch DMZ
@chaithethai9171 I know but after playing since it's launch, using every weapon in the game countless times over countless hours. I would've liked to have DMZ made into a mode like WZ was able to have integrations like MW19 did with cold war and shitguard MW3's weapons imported into DMZ would've been a godsend imo
@@AngyStormzI hope to see it back in the next IW game. Along with Raids, I personally admired them.
@@KynixYT likewise
DMZ was the only time i had most fun in CoD since BO2
I’m someone in the middle. I like how weird it is to see a random skin that just feels so out of place but at the same time I also prefer back in the old Black Ops days where your character really could never be customized
It’s a war game I don’t care that it’s supposed to not be taken to seriously but that’s the point it’s a war game I don’t need to see people running around as fucking anime snoop dog or whatever the hell it I don’t get why there isn’t an option to turn that off if anything it’s distracting and it’s hurt the identity of the game they want to be to much like Fortnite not their own style
Agreed
I'm 14 and I love mil-sims and I also like arcade shooters the same goes for my friends I don't get why people debate and argue so much over this cod shouldn't be a mil-sim nor an arcade game it should be something in between with options to choose in which way you want to play it just like this one mentioned in the video to turn these obnoxious skins and weapons on and off (and if possible to even choose which guns and skins you want to replace them for) and some other settings or even a gamemode that could be added to make the game more realistic like a gamemode were movement is more grounded and there is no omni and/or demon movement but still keeping the slide and dolphin dice movement options now with all this I'm not saying the arcade style of cod should be removed for example me and my friends mil-sim in warzone since that is the only cod we share we've been looking to buy MW2019 to lkay cod even more tactical with like ardcore mode pr provate matches ans CO-OP and stuff but for now we only have warzone to play like that so it doesn't bother us if we find other players with demon movement or crazy guns in our matches since we understand that not every player likes to play like that so they don't have to play how we want anf in fact like I said we like playing the arcade way sometimes to cool off we lut these obnoxious skind and gind with razy attachments and camos and just forget about the tactical playstyle and chill for a bit that's why I day we should have these options and/or gamemodes ofc free since I don't want to pay 3.99$ to be switching my options or gamemodes just to play in a certain way but all of this is just me and my friend's opinion so takr it with a grain of salt eitherway Activision is not going to add this sincr it would take a lot of time and money and I don't think it will make them enkugh money when finished nut it wiuld still be cool
The fact that there's no "mil-sim" operator for both factions in the game is crazy. Pretty sure Woods, Stone and Reyan are the only operators with plate carriers... everyone else is wearing a hoodie or something...
Because they're spies not members of the military (at this current part of the timeline)
All the communication around MW2019 was precisely about war, its harshness, the action of special forces, etc. And since MWII, change has come. And it was going pretty well, but Warzone broke a few things about the realism they were aiming for. And since MWII, a drastic change with skins of Messi, Neymar, Niki Minaj and strange demons, and it's been going on and on ever since. Now they're mixing Warzone, Zombie and Solo (which I don't accept at all), and the context/anchor to reality has disappeared. Of course, it's not a conflict simulator, but Call of Duty isn't in the same league as Fortnite either.
Why is it every time someone says they want Call of Duty to make sense again. Others say "oh you want it to be mil-sim" no thats not what we said! When we say we want Call of Duty to feel like old cod, there needs to have military stuff.
And there is military stuff hell a lot of it is free
I’m in the middle of the road. I like goofy skins, but all cod collab skins I hate
Cod: we're going to base our games off irl events
Also cod: play as these weird characters that don't fit the theme
You know I’m surprised more people didn’t know that already.
It seems like they tried going for a more semi grounded approach with the reboot of modern warfare, which is why ww3 has not happened in the last game.
Just give us p diddy, drake, keep snoop, and have one superhero skin every season but preferably two. Beyond that I hope they really do bring back the grounded vibe
i only hate about call of duty is that they bring some fancy crappy celebrities, fictional superheroes, and japanese anime operators like Nicki minaj, homelander, devin booker and others.
I think something that would help solve this issue is a mode where you can apply all your purchased skins to other operators in multiplayer matches. That way you can increase the value of the skins you buy because you can coat other players with your own skins pre match.
@@natefielder3090 that's very interesting
I would pay to turn them off too this is ridiculous especially these fire skins all of them look so similar and they're on both F-ing teams which is confusing AF
Yeah I agree there should be an option to turn them off, meaning no skin for your character nor the other players, but if you want to use a skin then you must turn that option on and deal with the other players' skins....but we know damn well that will never happen -.-'
it isnt about it being a milsim, its about being immersive and believable
But there is none of that in the Campaign? Multiplayer is it's own thing...
Multuplayer can still be immesive that was a huge part of mw2019@@ivanmartinez743
@@ivanmartinez743play cod 4, WAW, mw2, BO1, mw3 and bo2. Those game’s multiplayers stayed grounded in the campaign
@@Ben_lupul_696 out of the what? 20 something cod games that have been released there has been wacky shit in cod longer than there hasn't
Can't believe people fail to understand a military shooter is supposed to look like a military shooter...
I Can’t believe the term arcade shooter and military shooter aren’t the same and apparently neither can you
@Fetch- lil bro doesn't even remember how cod started
For me I don't care about the colorful skins but, I do feel there needs to be more of a balance with the grounded and more realistic skins for the 90s era (US Delta Force, or Army Rangers, etc.) featured more predominantly in the shop.
I am kinda torn on the subject as I complained back in MWIII about Rick and Michonne being put into the game, and yet, I had bought Homelander back in MWII, so I had no right to complain. But I will say that I don't really get what attracts people to those sorts of skins, especially if they make you stick out. But I will say that they do have their place, especially in something like MWIII, where its multiplayer was and wasn't part of the story, and we were getting different reskins of maps that would make it a bit more 'out there' and so those skins do fit that sort of game, however, in BO6, it's set in the 90s and seeing a guy in a meat suit or someone in dragon armor, can take you out of the game a little if you're imagining you're going up against Patheon and when you're Rogue Black Ops and then you see a person in dragon armor.
I think it's also irritated people with BO6 because, like you said, Treyarch said that they were going to at least cut back on stuff like that and yet, it seems like they've stepped it up, so basically making them liars, which of course would be hurtful to the Treyarch fans.
As for the mil-sim side of stuff? I mean, I know it's never really been a mil-sim. Maybe MW2019 was a step in that direction, but for someone like me who's on console, I can't just 'go play a Mil-sim game' because the variety is very bare, so I'm basically stuck with COD and I put up with the antics that come with it.
Yeah I mostly always play console as well and going the mil sim route isn't always a choice I have also.
All i want, is for them to stick to the tone, aesthetic and timeframe of the setting. What is the point of picking a setting, building an identity and feel around said setting to then a month later, fill it with garbage skins and multicoloured tracers. Its getting to the point when you pick a screenshot of any CoD in the past years, and genuinely struggle to differentiate between the settings.
When people talk about mil sim nobody is referencing the gameplay, they are talking about the aesthetic/ setting and operators.
If COD ain't Mil-Sim, it ain't Fortnite either
So many people don’t understand this. They think that since one aspect of the game isn’t realistic, then everything else can be thrown out the window and the immersion can be reduced to just Fortnite skins.
Cod is an arcade shooter
Activision is a huge company that makes many games. I believe that if they wanted to they could make two separate games, one appealing to the players that want milsim and another that appeals to skins and crazy looking guns.
Why would they do that? Financially that wouldn’t make sense to split up your player base.
Bro, you want them to release 2 CODs yearly? ☠️
@@joshuacollins9316This too, thats the reason they also stopped with season passes and paid DLCs, people who couldnt bought were separated from those who had them and those who had them barely played got matches because the majority just bought the base game
Yeah true i wasn’t thinking completely rationally. But i mean Activision is a huge company that could make two different kind of games at once, maybe not the same name.
halo mcc has a switch in the options where you can turn off skins that don’t fit with the og art style. everyone who uses an armor piece that’s dlc appears as a default spartan, while for them they still have their skins.
That would be great solution so people could stop whining over what other spend their money in, but that has been an option in COD Mobile since like forever and hasnt being implemented on the main games, so it's safe to say that it aint happening
Cod ww2
People that say “go play a milsim game than” don’t understand that most people that play call of duty are on console, console is hella dry when it comes to milsim, yeah we have insurgency sandstorm but that’s about it, plus that game is getting kinda old, we want something new, all the good milsim games are on pc and not everyone can afford one
L deal with it
I could never be upset with how others people spend their money
While it does get annoying seeing colourful skins every at times, people REALLY expect realistic skins in a game where people get diddied on the daily and do crazy things with omni-movement?
Charlie's tweet is like saying that someone is asking to own a multi-trillion dollar company because they've asked to set up a street-shop.
We don't want a mil-sim, most of us aren't asking for a mil-sim.
We just want COD to feel immersive again and be given the option to rightfully block out annoying skins and gun effects.
It's About The "Vibe" And The Ambiance. I Think They Should Have A Toggle In The Settings (Client Side) For Us Who Dislike The "Immersion" Being Broken.
I Understand logistically, It's Not Going To Happen With The Current Warzone. But It Should Be A Setting In Bo6 And All Games Moving Forward. If Someone
Wants To Play As A Humanoid Shark, I Say Go Right Ahead But, Don't Force That On Me. Let That Person Use That And Let Other People See That Skin That
Don't Have That Silly Stuff Toggled Off In The Settings.
It's always gonna be a eternal debate. But me personally, I believe that in a healthy balance of both Mil Sim and Goofy. Activision gonna always follow the money and only the money at the end of the day. That's just how it is as a multi billion dollar corporation. But if we can't all come together and find a constructive middle ground to please both sides, nothing will change. Maybe they should start throwing in ways to offer Mil Sim/campaign themed skins as free rewards if they not gonna sell them. Or add then in the battle pass because the demand is clearly there and will continue to be there. Take a look at the Modern Warfare side, there's still players to this day(me including) who really want Soap's campaign skin from MW2(2022). Like going back to the days if MW 2019, you see why the desire is there.
I'm too old for the fast gameplay so I'll keep my 2 cents on this topic
It’s an identity issue and making every soldier a main character badass tier 1 operator
The crazy skins can stay they just need to be toned down and better incorporated like MW19 Halloween skins and ColdWar skins
i dont want a milsim, i want a fast paced military arcade shooter. bo6 looked sick in its first week because other then the vault skins every skin fit the theme.
We don’t want it to be a milsim, we just want the gritty vibe to it, not rappers shooting actual soldiers in a airport
Personally I’m not too hurt about skins as long as they make since in some type of way like the soda machine guy, parasite or dragon bundle cause those things skins are related to Black ops and cod in some type of way, but just to put a skin bundle of shark or raccoon like that makes absolutely no sense with the game in general. If they do make a mil sim implementation in the game somehow later on I think I’d take back the money for the skin bundles I purchased already.
Why does it have to be ither one extreme or the other? Either mil-sim, or shark skins? It's like people forgot that there used to be middle-ground military shooters, those that were kinda aracady in terms of gameplay, but still felt authentic and grounded.
Yeah i never understood why set it in the 90s and not put cool 90s themed skins? Cold war did it just fine, we had scream, rambo, terminator and die hard , but instead were getting these weird out of place skins...
I like the skins overall.
However if players wish to disable them, it should be allowed.
To me, an option is always good. We've been wanting the option to turn off the ridiculous cosmetics since 2019. Call of Duty used to be aesthetically in-line with the theme of the game, the theme of the story... it might not be a mil-sim but you don't see frickin' King Shark fighting with Deltas in World War 3, way back in 2011.
Gameplay wise it's bad for the visibility, sometimes the effects are too over the top your eyes can't track the enemies in gunfights. Sometimes the skins are too many to the point where you can't memorize them all, making you unable to differentiate who is who in a match. Hell the vanilla operators are hard to differentiate already because of how aesthetically similar they are with eachother. Back then Deltas wore multicams, Rangers wore UCP, Marines with the MARPAT, Russians with the fictionalized Red Woodland camo. What happened to those??
You know what’s really irritating me and making me mad? The hypocrisy. See, when Infinity Ward did these skins with MWII and III, everyone LOATHED these bundles and used the “wah it’s supposed to be a realistic military simulator, wah😭”. But then come to Black Ops 6 made by Treyarch, the prize pony that everyone seems to like to put on a pedestal. They do THE EXACT SAME THING and I have not seen nearly a single comment the same kind people have Infinity Ward! Like I keep on saying: let multiplayer have fun for once and if you want “realism”, go play the campaign!
@@silashurd3597 yeah everyone LOVES hating IW but Treyarch seems untouchable sometimes and I don't agree with that.
@@BranWolfYT Treyarch is the better of the two evils, and at least their story writing is and always will be miles ahead of IW’s.
What are you talking about? Sledgehammer is the one that gets all the hate.
Treyarch gets less hate for weird skins because Black Ops is a weirder series and isn't as grounded seeming as Modern Warfare. That doesn't excuse a lot of the skins in my view.
@@channel45853 While Sledgehammer gets a lot of hate, IW basically broke all trust the community had
You're so right. I'm going to stop critiquing, uh, I mean complaining about the mrbeastification of all consumption for a gaslit target audience, not because of a deep passion but because I'm not goated, or epic, I'm a hater. I'm going to take your advice and blindly go play my fabulously written story with an incredibly realistic campaign where I fight 6 legged aliens and weeping angel zombies. Shame on me for not being a corperate consuming zombie loyalist. I think I should go play fortnite for a solid week, and I need to rethink my decisions... more so not think at al!
I'm late on some of these videos. Although CoD is an arcade shooter I miss back in the day when we didn't have these crazy skins. Also when these operators were introduced in mw2019 most of the skins were mil-sim style skins. Not Nikki Manaj or 21 Savage or Wubz. The fact that people pay $20 for them is wild too
Unfortunately, it’s not a majority who doesn’t like them because I KEEP SEEING THESE DAMN SHARKS AND DRAGONS ALL THE TIME!!!!
Yup, COD goes where the money flows, people should have started to realize that since MW19
One of the other things I’ve disliked is the focus on non-U.S. characters. I mean yeah there has been at least like 13-14 U.S. operators including milsim but not including crossover characters or the mini-collabs with tactical influencers like the Ronin or Warrior operators, but there’ve been a severe lack of skins for those operators. Like I just wanted a male U.S. operator with nods down on the “good” side and they didn’t release anything like that until the Batch Test and Balloon Test skins for Jabber and those are goofy looking mannequin skins. And they didn’t even get many of the flashy Ultra or Reactive skins, there’s only the Godzilla one for Jabber that’s basically a reskin of the skin from Vanguard, and a couple for Byline. If they’re not gonna give me cool milsim U.S. skins at least give me ultra skins for U.S. characters that aren’t recycled garbage. Instead some nobody from the fictional Urzikstan gets 2 ultra skins, several crossover skins and the Infinite Warfare themed BP skin. And they could’ve waited and did the ETH.3N skin until Alex was released since a robot leg or even both legs being robot legs would fit the character, but instead they gave it to some Costa Rican guy. I mean yeah the non-U.S. characters should get cool skins too but it’s just a shame they just completely forget the U.S. characters when making skins.
In Rocket league, cosmetics can be turned off. Does not hurt the game one bit.
I just don’t understand the pushback, back in the day all this was just camo packs and they were a dollar, yeah some of its cool, but I feel like it’s going a bit too far nowadays
Would’ve love a toggle
Skins are like cybertrucks, people wanna flex with that no matter how much of an eyesore it is
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It is hardly considered a flex if you're just showing off something you just paid money to unlock over wearing something you can earn by simply putting time and effort of just playing the game.
Wish black ops 6 was the beginning of being mil sim again
We can still have some goofy ahh skins, but cod gotta tone it down a bit sometimes...
Agreed especially with those annoying effects from the guns of those bundles people kill you with.
I think the option for turn off the skins it would be cool
I think people mean they want mil sim skins and not turn the game into a mil sim, like the crazy over the top skins can co-exist with the milsim skins imo. Really wish they'd release mil sim skins soon though
They need to sell first for that happen and MWII failed at that
@ivanmartinez743 yeah, mw2 didn't sell enough Milsim skins imo, I literally only got myself a few when they released the battlepass collections on mw3
I willing to pay $100 a year to turn off the garbage that Treyach has put into the game and if they dont allow me to turn off this annoying trash I will be done with the game and uninstall the pathetic rubish it has already now become!
Black ops changes over the years so there's no point of us complaining anymore
Hope they add Micro from black ops 3.
Cod it's a arcade shooter since COD4, idk why people keep think or misunderstood that cod it's a mil-sim like Arma or ready or not lol.
I cant even be bothered to play half of the characters in the game, just give me the build your character from the older games, ill pay for every piece of clothing if i have to, but i want to make a soldier, not wait for a cool skin after goofy skins
CoD and BF have no need to become milsims at the same rate they have no need for those goofy player skins
Insurgency and Insurgency: Sandstorm are great arcade fps games with fast ttk and no clutter in your HUD. When the devs tried to introduced goofy skins in SANDSTORM they were bulli'd into oblivion to the point of giving up and cutting the skin altogether
Weird weapon skins:
i'm down. Because it's something you can recreate in your own guns irl.
Weird character skins:
Hell nah, get rid of operators and give us back nameless/faceless soldiers
I’m just gonna say what everyone else is saying, yea idm if it’s not realistic, because realism is kinda lame sometimes, but I also don’t wanna be sniped by a shark man with a bright neon flashy pink anime gun. Like at least make them look a little more realistic kinda like with MW19, or Cold War (slightly)
It would be really nice to be able to turn off the skins these don't feel like black ops games with these obnoxious bright skins I understand it makes them money but it's just FPS fortnite at this point.
I’ve yet to see something realistic in the shop. Give me a gas mask mil sim
Bo6 themed skins would be cool. None of the wacky racoon and neon shit. If the devs insist on having those skins, then let the skins be cross-game
Even kids play COD what's the problem with a few weird skins, it's just a game not the real life. At least campaign keeps the theme and atmosphere
Man I’m not about to pay to turn off other peoples skins but I hate seeing that shit already in S1
I mean yeah its BS cause its Activision and you know how they are, the company is down right rotten AF.
Just have a balance and everyone can be happy
Honestly it might make Activision more money if they made it to where we could customize every aspect of our operator. Similarly to Ghost Recon or another game with that level or more advanced level of customization. Knowing then they’d nickel and dime you for that but it’s ridiculous that most of these packs are $20-$24 when it’s just mostly filled with bullshit anyhow. I want the milsim skins back. I have zero interest in the flashy, Fortnite-esque skins.
I must agree bring back the old skins like from the old call of duty not like this this isn’t fornite
They should add back old customization from the first Black Ops game in multiplayer. You can make it from different factions, like America, Pantheon, and other factions/countries that appear in the BO6 campaign. It’d be cool to run around as a Pantheon soldier, killing the entire lobby on a Free-For-All match. I do think the skins look ridiculous, and I do think we should have a setting that turns them off, but they should still make them in future games, because as you said, a lot of people buy these skins, so if we just removed it in future games entirely, many players would quit the game, or would spend less money on the game.
This is a dumb Argument, there isnt 2 sides, why would there be, it's an option for one person to not see it, what are you gonna do? Cry because I can't see your rainbow Rat suit? Who cares, Its as simple as, ok cool add it, don't cry and shut the idea down
Bruh the people who make cod now can’t define what a woman is … they don’t even know what cod is anymore just pure brain rot
Its not that past games were more milsim. Its that CoD games used to take themselves and their settings more seriously. It was always hollywood as hell but the games played it straight. You never had shit like modern guns being added to a WW2 game, or this ridiculous obsession with over designed MP characters and skins that have nothing to do with the setting or theme of the game.
I just want COD back to be a Fucking COD like was in BO1 or other game that doesnt looks like Fortnite
My thing is Call of Duty has never been a military simulator game to me. It's always been an actionggg movie arcade shooter and that's what it's always been. After the more serious games, Call of Duty went for an action movie set piece, you know, big explosions, massive gunfights, you know, movie action scenes and everything. And it never took itself that seriously when it came to what Call of Duty was. It had good stories, but at the end of the day, it's an action game. So they gave us those action hero set pieces. By the way, multiplayer is, it's weird to say that you want a military sim for multiplayer when people can dolphin dive, you know, do crazy equipment, use scorestreaks or killstreaks depending on the game. They do all this action, non-realistic military sim shit and yet skins are too far. People running around with golden, diamond camo guns and yet freaking guy wearing the dog suit over here is too much. It doesn't make any sense. If you want total military sim, then we should take away all the skins, the gun skins and everything because those paint jobs aren't military sim either. You can't have your cake and eat it too. You can't bitch about the operator skins and not bitch about the camo skins, the calling cards and everything else. That's not military simulation.
And by the way, older Call of Duty games had silly fucking skins. Advanced Warfare had a clown skin, Gunzo, and a gingerbread man skin. Call of Duty Ghost had a bunch of weed-inspired skins and different camo sets, and they had pretty weird ones as well. And that's going on and on. Black Ops 3, some silly-ass skins. You know, Infinite Warfare, World War 2. We have had these skins for a while now. So, we just gotta get over it.
Fully agree with you I hated these skins ever since black ops Cold War and cod should stay a realistic themed arcade gameplay style shooter. And also these clowns like CharlieINTEL say that just to engagement farm they know it’s a shitty take he posts it every year bro his rent was just due
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The whole idea of a “mil sim” is douchy af, as if being in the military could ever be replicated in a game, thinking of a game as a mil sim is just a way for edge lords to get themselves off
Dude all respect, how old are you? I mean like early 20’s? Because COD was literally the closest game to a military shooter, a military FPS.
I completely agree with your video, but COD WAS the military SIM. It’s not anymore because of Fortnite and DEI BS. Otherwise I agree with you whole video.
For so long for console players Cod and Battlefield were the premier mil-sim experiences on console, rainbow six disappeared for a very long time after Vegas 2, and came back a shell of its former self, ghost recon was in a near futuristic setting at the time, and well SOCOM died and Sony is just sitting on the ip doing nothing with it since ps3. That golden era of Cod and Battlefield is what of us into true mil sim stuff later on, once they started down this current path, but mw2019 for all its faults atleast attempted to keep to the “modern warfare” theme for a while, and it became one of my favorite cods, but the part that pisses me off with bo6 is they couldnt go even a month, A single fucking month, before adding the stupid shit
@ Facts
That's crazy how you just completely invalidated your point by saying "DEI" bro go take a shower
I agree completely that the mil-sim game that I and a good majority of the fan base have enjoyed for years is now gone. Could it come back? Maybe but who knows. Activision cares more about making as much money as they can from the games they produce. Everyone wants to copy and paste Fortnite content because it was so successful with the younger demographic.
Imagine being told by other players. " "If you want a Military Sim than go play one". I dont care what anyone says. Call of Duty is a Military based competitive Multiplayer, and story based game. Take Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 and before. Any and all games before.
They are night and day difference from back then and now. I would say black ops 2 and before are True Call of Duty. The game has changed since then. For the worst.
I like how you're just wrong and you admit you don't care that you're wrong
@@usernamepassword236 I am wrong?! Where? Prove me wrong, saying I am wrong does not make me wrong, but we all know that Call of Duty is a Military based game. Evidence is shown by the titles like
- World At War
- WWII (meaning World War II )
- Modern Warfare 1,2, and 3
- Cold War
Plus look it up on Google you will find and read:
"Call of Duty is a MILITARY first-person shooter video game series and media franchise published by Activision, starting in 2003." ( I put the word in caps so you cannot miss it. )
To think that Call of Duty is not a Military based game is the same as actually thinking it is fortnite when we know it is not. I know I am right, and I can back my shit up, do you really need more source? Everything I stated here is basic common sense.
@usernamepassword236 Where am I wrong here? Please prove me wrong.
1.) Games in this "Call of Duty" Franchise all Mention "War" in the title.
- Call of Duty 4 Modern Warfare
- Call of Duty: World At War
- Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
- Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3
- Call of Duty: WWII ( World War II )
- Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War
2.) You can look up and google what call of duty is. It will tell you it is a "Military first person shooter" keyword "Military". Ask google what type of game Call of Duty is and you'll get the same answer.
I don't know I'm wrong, I know I'm right. It is a Military based game that has a story and is competitive within multiplayer.
I shared this before and I don't see it now, so I shared this again.
@@Binary_Deviant call of duty is an arcade shooter keyword arcade meaning there will be and are arcade elements and themes present
@@usernamepassword236 Call of Duty has never been an arcade shooter. Show me proof where it says Call of Duty is an arcade shooter. Where? im waiting.
Call of Duty should never be a military-tactical game and they shouldn't even try to be, because every time they try, they fail in that direction, see CoD MW 2. I've always seen Call of Duty games as movie games, whether it was campaign, multiplayer, zombies or Warzone. And as for the skins, there were never any funny, grotesque or ridiculous skins in the battle pass, there were always quite serious or serious skins. And as for the "extra skins" that are in the store, right next to the shark one, you have two military, one hunting and then one sci-fi military, so I find it funny how people deliberately choose those special skins and draw attention to them, and that they prefer to leave out the serious skins next to them. But I can say for myself, yes, I mind skins like crazy smiley, hot dog, etc., etc., but I don't have a problem with a skin that looks nice or looks rough, so yes, the shark suit is totally fine in my opinion, because it's just a cool suit.
Thank god Black ops was on gamepass, cause I only played the campaign and some multiplayer (before obnoxious skins), and I saved myself $70. Im not doing the stupid skins, get your use out of it on gamepass, then play tarkov after is my philosophy