Sextant Rolling is the EASIEST (& most boring) Profit

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  • @subtractem
    @subtractem  Рік тому +5

    Zach from PoE Stack has made a tool for live updating the expected value from sextant rolling. At the time of this comment it is STILL profitable if you do it correctly and reach the average EV: poestack.com/ev/compasses

  • @MrMeltJr
    @MrMeltJr Рік тому +8

    It's really nice to have something that will easily sell for divines in bulk. I sell sextants for divs and stacked decks for chaos, gives me a steady supply of both so I very rarely have to exchange one for the other.

  • @helpme7213
    @helpme7213 Рік тому +17

    Here is the best way to be a degenerate
    Get full Gem leveling gear and sit in 5way while rolling sextant.

    • @drjohndorianwins
      @drjohndorianwins Рік тому +1

      Yup did this early league. And make sure to use a controller so the gems auto level, so you dont have to stop rolling the sextants

    • @niklazz7037
      @niklazz7037 Рік тому

      lol

    • @Adrianmartinyoutube
      @Adrianmartinyoutube Рік тому

      And then you'll be realize that you are playing the more boring and stupid game in your life :D

    • @Resouler
      @Resouler Рік тому +1

      @@drjohndorianwins wait if i attach a controller the gems auto level ?:D

  • @briantjarks
    @briantjarks Рік тому +48

    Your videos are awesome. I would love if you did a POB for dummies. I can never figure out how to import my character and figure out my DPS.

    • @jimthelegend9992
      @jimthelegend9992 Рік тому +4

      This would be soooo helpful. That’s where I’m at in the POB journey too. No idea how to calculate hypothetical dps on POB

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Рік тому +38

      on the list!

    • @willwell2360
      @willwell2360 Рік тому

      ​@subtractem awesome! Would love this also I have a volatile dead poet pen build and I can't figure out my damage also 😮‍💨

    • @KeyboardSavant
      @KeyboardSavant Рік тому

      @@subtractem I have many friends that would benefit from this idea. Some of which have been playing for leagues and are STILL too intimidated to even bothered with PoB.
      Heck, if you have any “pro tips” for more advanced users, compile a list of those as well! Custom modifiers, additional proj calcs, non-damaging ailment percentages, etc.

  • @down-the-rabbit-hole
    @down-the-rabbit-hole Рік тому +7

    My experience is rolling sextants is that you will either be lucky and make alot of money or you will lose several divines, which is what happened to me the last time.

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Рік тому +7

      With the right blocks you have to get VERY unlucky to not make profit. They key is definitely finding the 2-4 sextant mid tier ones and selling those in bulk as well (like I show with the beyond ones in this video).
      This ensures that you're always pulling a baseline return so you're never negative and always profit when you hit a good one.

    • @Escher99
      @Escher99 Рік тому +4

      Unless you are not blocking and rolling over every enraged you basically can't lose money...

    • @down-the-rabbit-hole
      @down-the-rabbit-hole Рік тому

      @@subtractem awesome, I'll probably git it a shot again once build up enough currency.

    • @NextJordan8
      @NextJordan8 Рік тому

      Ive did it a lot in standard and calculated everything in excel sheets. Your profit ranges between 30 and 100%, it is almost impossible to be unprofitable unless your sample size is really small.

    • @down-the-rabbit-hole
      @down-the-rabbit-hole Рік тому

      @@NextJordan8 Maybe it's because I only bought 2 Divine worth at a time that makes it seem un-profitable?

  • @HUNLIGHTtm
    @HUNLIGHTtm Рік тому +3

    I tried it for the first time in this league and it is the most FUN and interesting method. I will always try doing it every league whenever possible.

  • @Escher99
    @Escher99 Рік тому +3

    Made a Mageblood in 5 days doing this at the end of month 1. Usual return was somewhere from +50% to +100% ROI. Turned all my Div and Chaos into sextants (people will buy Div for Awakened Sextants at market rate) and only sold Compasses worth 10c or more. All in all it was easy money. I had a friend roll for me for some of it which made it really, really fast.
    If you can stomach using TFT and PoeStack it is even faster. Some people on TFT are insanely deranged and will price stuff at 150% of market rate, ain't no one buying that.
    From my experience you can keep whatever sextants you want to run and sell the rest and you are still up in profit by a lot. My friend and I ran Enraged+corruptStrongbox+Harbinger+8ModMaps and we made big money. You will get way more enraged strongboxes than you will know what to do with.
    Remember to do your hand and wrist stretches 😁

    • @sokratesowly2256
      @sokratesowly2256 Рік тому

      I don't care about mageblood or divs, can I buy your FRIEND by my sextants...

  • @orioncorrea6611
    @orioncorrea6611 Рік тому +5

    Thanks for the video Sub. Love your content. I grabbed the data from poedb and summed the weights like you did. Then calculated the % chance for everything accounting for blocking 4000 weight. Then looked up values on poestack for every compass above 10c and multiplied across to get expected value. And that only summed to 7.67c/roll. Minus 1 for the compass leaves 6.67c expected value per roll which is only just more than the value of the raw sextants. So I guess either you're getting lucky or poestack is under valuing the rolled compasses by pricing them in chaos.
    Edit: Interestingly the enraged strongbox is by far the highest EV contributor at nearly 1/3 of the total value. I guess the combo of having a relatively high weight of 250 and the highest price is a winner
    Edit2: Rolled 140 sextants and made about +30% profit

    • @SuspenseGames
      @SuspenseGames Рік тому

      I bought 3 elevated and hit enraged and regular strongbox for 9.5div

    • @bigdamij
      @bigdamij Рік тому

      I also am about 150 sextants in an about 25~30% profit.

    • @TrivialTax
      @TrivialTax Рік тому

      Could you provide spreadsheet?

    • @Leogos281
      @Leogos281 Рік тому

      Damn thats some nice luck, I'll be doing more of this but 100 sextant rolls and I only made back 60 sextants so im -40.

  • @Blamzite
    @Blamzite Рік тому +1

    pro tip almost every compass can be bulk sold on tft for a min of like 6-7c meaning you can just take all of them and sell every non valuable one in bulk resulting in almost no loss whatsoever

  • @BigB0ss00
    @BigB0ss00 Рік тому +1

    If people dont want to see prices in awakened sextants with awakened poe trade just press control+alt+d then hover over online and choose chaos. sometimes people lst things in other currencies to get that item to trick people to list it cheaper

  • @TheHeroYouDeserve
    @TheHeroYouDeserve Рік тому +1

    I have a build that completes Uber Maven in 55 seconds. Did 200 of them with only a few big drops, one flask, but the sextants made me over 200 divines of profit.

  • @brandonkruse6412
    @brandonkruse6412 Рік тому +6

    For even more profit and to break up the monotony, I recommend Delve to source your own sextants.
    A good hour of Delve for me with a full bar of Sulphite can yield up to ~100 sextants if I get lucky with finding cities.

    • @JustinKoenigSilica
      @JustinKoenigSilica Рік тому

      but that's only about 3 div of sextants. not that great for an hour not spent rolling sextants.

    • @brandonkruse6412
      @brandonkruse6412 Рік тому +1

      @@JustinKoenigSilica True but you get more than that in fossils and resonators delving as well. + it’s actually fun

    • @pozytywniezakrecony151
      @pozytywniezakrecony151 Рік тому

      Is it more common drop somewhere there or why is it?

  • @JudeMoneymaker
    @JudeMoneymaker Рік тому +1

    Thanks to people who overhype profitability of rolling sextants and pump their price, I made additional over 50d profit this league just selling them in bulk.

  • @siggi4426
    @siggi4426 Рік тому +2

    Did it once
    Stoped after 5div
    I've never had less fun in poe ever

  • @MarisaPanda
    @MarisaPanda Рік тому +2

    I just wasted 50 sextants and only got a handful of sellable ones worth under 10 sextant did not work for me

    • @xhuliollapri5835
      @xhuliollapri5835 Рік тому +1

      yeah only if you hit at least 1 time the 30 awakened + sextant modifier otherwise is only loses...

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Рік тому

      The expected value per click is currently 5 chaos. You can absolutely get unlucky for a bit but it will average out to be incredibly profitable. This is a weighted casino, the math is proven. I say in the video to double check the profitability curve and have enough to invest to ride the wave.
      You can hit a bad luck streak but you will always be profitable with enough investment (at time of this comment).

    • @xhuliollapri5835
      @xhuliollapri5835 Рік тому

      @@subtractem I just did a 150 sextants try. Got 120 sextants total so :/
      Maybe you should put out in the video before starting to not try if you are a little short on money :(

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Рік тому +1

      I mean, I talk about weighting and I believe I mention that you should have a high volume of sextants before starting in the video. Check the pinned comment for expected value. You need to sell everything worth 1-2 sextants in bulk as well to ensure that you recoup bad luck streaks.

  • @retrocny5625
    @retrocny5625 Рік тому +1

    Been doing this for a while and it's caused me to never run out of sextants(even running blue altars now, I still don't run out). I don't do the enraged strongboxes strat so that's my biggest seller. Usually sell them in stocks of 5 or more. There's some other good ones like map boss drops conq maps, yellow plants harvest, delirium 100% faster, maps drop with 8 mods, etc... but enraged is the most consistent seller.
    My main strat is still legion. Usually run map rarity=quant, extra legion, and then anything else that increases monsters on the map. Pretty low investment all things considered. I tried the enraged strongboxes thing, wasn't for me. Never dropped a good card. I've dropped plenty of good cards this league without it. Multiple apothecaries, multiple doctors, one Unrequited Love, etc. Only big value card I think I haven't dropped or pulled from a stacked deck is House of Mirrors. And all of those big card drops came when I was running RUSTED div scarabs besides. Maybe I could've gotten more if I shelled out for guilded div scarabs, but I just couldn't be bothered.
    High investment mapping in POE feels pretty bad since LOK and I hate the feeling where I'm worrying about recouping my investment.

  • @m.h.4907
    @m.h.4907 Рік тому +4

    I like how much go into the details into your videos and explain the mechanics of the game and ideas behind your builds.
    I'm running deli/harvest maps. Just reroll the orbs until you get either skittering or diviner's. Easy money

    • @Аргонавт
      @Аргонавт Рік тому +1

      is this still profitable without uber super juicing with winged? i thought current prices of deli orbs and it just seemes like instead of farming delirious its just better to sell deli orbs

    • @m.h.4907
      @m.h.4907 Рік тому

      @@Аргонавт it is profitable. You can also spec into blight on the atlas too. Then horicraft and rolling scarabs, orbs and oils, all 3 of them need a different lifeforce. Rolled a stack of gold and silver oils yesterday. Couple of divines in a few rolls
      Edit: Your atlas needs deli, harvest and blight nodes.

  • @alexlaliberte5365
    @alexlaliberte5365 Рік тому +1

    well done once again sir, clear and concise, keep up the good work, one day with your teachings I will be noob no more :)

  • @squidbait1396
    @squidbait1396 Рік тому

    I wouldn't bother saving blocking sextants. it doesn't cost 20 sextants to set up the block or whatever number you quoted.
    The real cost is probably less than 1 sextant.
    what you actually lose when you roll a sextant unblocked is not 1 sextant. it is the difference in expected value of 1 sextant blocked vs 1 sextant unblocked.
    when you roll a non-blocker result before being set up, you have lost nothing as that is the desired outcome.
    plus blocking a random low value outcome still increases your odds of high value outcomes.

  • @nightlord2823
    @nightlord2823 Рік тому

    Something like sextant rolling has always been a viable & profitable business in PoE from very very long time ago. I see many people in the comments saying that they didn't make any profits or even lost. It is because your investment was too low. You can't hope for some jackpots to get you a vig profit while rolling just a few hundreds of sextants.
    People who do this seriously, they roll thousands everyday, and stack every sellable mod to sell in bulk. You need to be able to stack even cheap sextant mods in a bulk to sell them so that you keep your chaos refilled then roll more sextants. That way you don't lose but only accumulate your probability of hitting the so called 'jackpot' mods.
    If you want to do this and only going to spend a few hundred sextants? Please, just list them on the trade and go mapping. If you are going to do this consistently for a long time or spend lots of sextants? And you don't mind sitting in the hideout rolling sextants to make currency, then go for it. Mappers will love you and eventually you will often get contacted by some mappers who wants to consistently buy sextant mods off of you.

  • @wisconsincrhunter5614
    @wisconsincrhunter5614 Рік тому

    I rolled 3 divs worth of sextant following this guide and lost about 160 chaos. Didnt roll a single sextant worth more than 75 chaos, 3 beyond sextants only. No strongbox ones worth 200+ chaos, the legion encounter ones arent worth shit anymore either sadly. I seen people rolling these often and they spend like 5 div and make back 8, I dont know how the hell that worked out

  • @Jbob648
    @Jbob648 Рік тому

    You could also buy polished scarabs and purple juice and make 20++++ div an hour. Only gate was how much purple juice was available and how hard you drove the price up.

  • @the_gengar_master
    @the_gengar_master Рік тому

    You explained this so well bro! Happy that i was able to be doing most of this accurately blind. Id still like to learn more strategies involving the expensive sextants going forward. Kinda noobish on Harvest and map juicing but im eager to learn!

  • @reyclorox
    @reyclorox Рік тому +1

    Well, did exactly the same blocks as you and lost 80 sextants, did a 40 sextant benefit in the first 5 minutes and then all the way down to 0 (sold basically everything that sold for 1+ sextant, so probably also some chaos losses there too)

    • @down-the-rabbit-hole
      @down-the-rabbit-hole Рік тому

      Wow you had incredibly horrible luck then

    • @reyclorox
      @reyclorox Рік тому

      @@down-the-rabbit-hole not really, strategy is bricked, bc everyone is now doing it qnd prices dropped significantly, enough to make it a true gamble. Market regulates itself mf

    • @down-the-rabbit-hole
      @down-the-rabbit-hole Рік тому

      @@reyclorox If that's true, then it would mean that is no longer profitable, meaning that players will stop doing it really soon and the prices will go back up. Besides, all you really need is yellow plants OR stongboxes, or 8 mod and one of those 3 gets those fairly often. If you aren't getting those, then you are EXTREMELY unlucky. Also, like Sub mentioned, most people don't bother selling the 5 to 10 chaos ones, so they don't count those, but they really should since selling those in bulk adds up extremely quickly.

    • @reyclorox
      @reyclorox Рік тому

      @@down-the-rabbit-hole tried again this morning and calculated it. Currently, at average you will get llosses. Bue yes, prices will go back to normal, I assume in around 2-3 weeks from now, since it's something ppl will continue to buy very often. (Had to calculate te average based on weights, since bc of my terrible luck i couldnt see a single enraged strongbox in more than 50 sextants, which is kinda sad)

    • @down-the-rabbit-hole
      @down-the-rabbit-hole Рік тому

      @@reyclorox Bad luck the I guess. If you want a sure bet way to make lots of currency, then just do essences and harvest AND use the lifeforce to upgrade all of the bad essences to top tier selling essences. . That's a surefire way to make several divine an hour. I tried it myself last night. As long as you are fast, you can't lose...........

  • @chrisschneider1746
    @chrisschneider1746 Рік тому +1

    Surprised it's profitable at 6c each. I gave up earlier in the league when the sextants kept ramping up to 3.5/4c each.

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Рік тому

      well you sell for sextants so it feeds into itself. you don't buy sextants, you just generate more and sell off for profit.

  • @MrPinoy12
    @MrPinoy12 Рік тому

    Thank you for all your guides! Helped me get back to playing poe.

  • @rrichter6781
    @rrichter6781 Рік тому

    I’d love a quick video of literally how to use which items where, I’m still learning, I didn’t know you could modify the atlas map until now

  • @brucejschroeder
    @brucejschroeder Рік тому +1

    not sure if i'm incredibly unlucky or what. lost a div worth of sextants plus the time. I thought maybe i didn't follow directions so i rewatched the video, and i did everything right. I even bought the set-up blocks so i wouldn't waste any sextants. Not as guaranteed as i thought it would be, but now i know not to do this and to just sell the sextants for divs, and let someone else try this. I really do hope this doesn't come across wrong, cuz i really appreciated the video and time. Cheers.

    • @astraldreamer84
      @astraldreamer84 Рік тому +2

      The same. This tactic is bullshit. Spend dozens of sextans and had only one worth something.
      Propably ggg nerfed it after this video.

    • @yungturtle7033
      @yungturtle7033 Рік тому

      @@astraldreamer84 no man, u just gotta cut your losses by also taking out the ones only worth 3-5 c.

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Рік тому

      This strat has moderate margins and high variance. At the time of this comment the expected value is profitable (i just double checked weights versus value on the market) but that may change and you also have to be willing to invest a good amount to ride low waves.
      Nothing was nerfed, it's just the nature of the casino.

    • @brucejschroeder
      @brucejschroeder Рік тому

      Yep, it be like that sometime. I figured that subtractem steered me right on the fire trap starter, so this is worth a whirl, and now I know. Worth the experience. :)

  • @trademark81
    @trademark81 Рік тому

    Thanks for the Input Subtractem. Realy do like your Videos! You know what i do miss on all the Content related to Sextans. Lets say, i dont want to do that for profit, i just want to do it for filling a day with a special Strat, suited to all the Sextants Mods. Sure, 1 Day for Magic Find and the Strongbox ones, then 1 Day for Rogue Exiles, Tormented and Bodyguard Stuff, maybe mixing in some Harbinger Focused ones etc... would love to get some inspiration in circling strats while self rolling Sextants. Why Circling Strats? Because i notice, when i do a single strategy for more than a few days i feel burnout and need something fresh, optimizing the atlas, fiddling a bit with what i could do. That takes a lot of time from my gameplay, and i am sure you can come up with something refreshing. Maybe especially on those that do not appeal in any way like Mysterious Barrels. I still keep those and use it for just casual mapping in random areas, put them as another Mod on blue Maps, with more Magic Packs and Magic Pack Size for example. Or how to use the 8 Mod Map the right way. Its hard to search all that stuff from different places. So have a nice weekend, man!

  • @Stonewall337
    @Stonewall337 Рік тому

    Great video. One request - could you put links in your video descriptions?

  • @isaac3252
    @isaac3252 Рік тому +2

    Went negative 40 awakened sextants on my first 100 of these

  • @KenNywithrice
    @KenNywithrice Рік тому

    Great video! I've heard about this but was always lazy to check it out. Also, even if you forget to pull your sextant blocks it's not the end of the world, can buy replacements from trade

  • @kwamedwards
    @kwamedwards Рік тому +1

    Don't sell fox sextants. Price fixers started that to make it easier to manipulate the prices lower. That's why you see uniques and other items in sextants as well, not because they are a good means of trade but because of price fixers. Have whatever you are using to search price only show results in chaos/divines so that you dont get scammed.

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Рік тому

      For most things this is true! But for compasses that is all they actually sell for, which is makes sense as they all exchange for their cost.

    • @kwamedwards
      @kwamedwards Рік тому

      @@subtractem If that works for you great then. Personally when buying I have so far always excluded those in sextants because im not buying sextants for my chaos to trade for the itemized sextant with a merchant. That is too much of a hassle compared to finding the guy pricing in the currency everyone has. When I did roll them earlier in the league I only priced in chaos. Guess you prove you can do either.
      Edit: Bought 50 enraged at 22-23 sextants ea and sold for 190c ea. Someone is getting ripped off here. If anyone wants easy money there you go. Turns out I will be buying compasses in sextants because they all seem to be majorly discounted.

  • @Leogos281
    @Leogos281 Рік тому

    Idk have a lot of currency and wanted to try this as an extra way of profit but for now ended up very shitty, invested 100 sextants and earned 60 so I have negative profit. Will try with 300 more and see whats up since I like these gambly ways of making currency.

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Рік тому

      The pinned comment has a tool that dynamically updates with the economy. It will tell you if it's profitable.

  • @StormCloudGenerator
    @StormCloudGenerator Рік тому +2

    Great video! I've got a harvest/delve atlas going and which doesn't use sextants but I still roll any I find and it has been an awesome source of income. I'm not very knowledgable about PoE, but its fun to figure it out on your own sometimes. Every 4 maps I get about ~1div of harvest juju and a 40k sulphite to delve with, which I then go delve and get a bunch of sextants and other saleable goods. Sextant rolling can form a very complimentary part of other strategies as well. I'm using blue altars to juice the harvest so no red altars needed!

  • @wisconsincrhunter5614
    @wisconsincrhunter5614 Рік тому

    I have cold and physical damage sextant on my voidstones and I keep rolling lightning and chaos ones

  • @White_Sonja
    @White_Sonja Рік тому

    Can someone explain me the blocking please, english isn't my native language and i have trouble understanding this part.

    • @MD-cq4np
      @MD-cq4np Рік тому +2

      so you have 4 voidstones, you roll all 4 of them for good sextant modifiers, BUT to maximize the chance for a GOOD sextant to compass and sell, you BLOCK the other 3 voidstones with BAD modifiers in order to have higher chances for GOOD modifiers.

  • @Peanutfiendsblog
    @Peanutfiendsblog Рік тому +2

    I've been running gilded expedition gilded harbinger + elevated harbingers sextant and elevated increased runic monsters sextant and it costs like about 4 divines every 16 maps but i make so much more from running logbooks and selling those fracturing orbs, sold 7 full orbs of them so far. So whoever is rolling all the elevated sextants I'll keep buying them :)

    • @brettlocke7054
      @brettlocke7054 Рік тому +1

      I am one of them, will continue to supply mate! I don't get much time to play due to work, so I get home roll sextants for 20-30 mins and move on. Then on the weekend I keep the ones I need to use and make profit on the rest)

    • @andishehnaderi
      @andishehnaderi Рік тому

      wait so the profit isn't very good but you want to keep buying elevated sextants?

  • @xdeathsrequiemx7251
    @xdeathsrequiemx7251 Рік тому

    Yo I’m sure you got lots of comments but no matter where I look I can’t find a whole lot of snipe. I don’t buy gear I’m a solo player just looking for a guide on snipe support and what I can really use would love to see it

  • @isaac3252
    @isaac3252 Рік тому

    do you need to roll the shrine and monster pack sextants or can you just buy them?

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Рік тому

      buying them is indeed the easiest way to do it!

  • @nickqqqq1
    @nickqqqq1 Рік тому

    Am I just getting stupid unlucky? I spent 300+ sextants and didn't get a single strongbox. I've got a gloom, cold damage, and lightning damage on my voidstones.

  • @Beardymanlol
    @Beardymanlol Рік тому +5

    During the demo when he began to try to set up the block, and hit enraged, he should have pulled that immediately in case he were to get lucky again. He self-blocked another lucky enraged by leaving it and going for more block setup

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Рік тому +3

      correct, was a slight misplay in the goal of rushing for setting up the block first for recording but since the odds are so low with a partial block (250/21,600 in this case) im not sweating it.

  • @ya-qb2ci
    @ya-qb2ci Рік тому

    i cant check the price when enchent is on voidstone. do i need to change something in the setings?

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Рік тому

      probably just double check that it's updated to the latest version, i dont know of any setting for that.

  • @Gjhfggdyyg
    @Gjhfggdyyg Рік тому +1

    I've spent 1000c and my loss is 600c

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Рік тому

      Check the pinned comment for ev of each sextant. Current return average is 5c per click.

  • @noritsueco
    @noritsueco Рік тому

    dunno if its still worth it but for context i lost 2 divs and did the exact same thing was on a 92 sextants, end with 30

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Рік тому

      The pinned comment has a tool that tells you do this is profitable and exactly what is worth.

  • @JustinKoenigSilica
    @JustinKoenigSilica Рік тому

    Do you have a link to the spreadsheet?

  • @OdyDoggy
    @OdyDoggy Рік тому

    i think people love to hate on simple tricks to make money... everyone overexajurate how boring it is, its not really. i do hextant rolling after a grind session with the sextants I gathered from searing exart and blight and is pretty quick are relax.
    its something you can do on the side for extra cash.. its not boring is just simple. boring is killing 100 searing exarts with a totem explode...

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Рік тому +1

      It doesn't bother me as much as other people but I have to put the disclaimers in there since so many people complain about it

  • @xrobles2994x
    @xrobles2994x Рік тому

    Works the same in ancestor's league?

  • @thade7062
    @thade7062 Рік тому

    From the thumbnail i thought it was going to be a red altar strat for sextants lol.

  • @9SJL
    @9SJL 11 місяців тому

    seems like they fixed this. can still roll damage packs after blocking

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  11 місяців тому

      You can always hit the ones you don't have blocked but it's still the best setup

    • @9SJL
      @9SJL 11 місяців тому

      okay ty@@subtractem

  • @doomsdaydevice8905
    @doomsdaydevice8905 Рік тому

    Used this strategy in Archnemesis to get my mageblood

  • @RJD12345
    @RJD12345 Рік тому

    Idk what im doing wrong but ive lost 3 div rolling these got 0 enraged. I have the 3 blockers lightning dmg, cold dmg and gloom shrine.

    • @yungturtle7033
      @yungturtle7033 Рік тому

      if u only go for the highest ones, ofc you will lose all your money.

    • @RJD12345
      @RJD12345 Рік тому

      @@yungturtle7033 never said I only went for the highest one? I even took the ones worth 1 sextant and lost money

    • @RJD12345
      @RJD12345 Рік тому

      @yungturtle7033 you need to get enraged to make money pretty much so that's why I mentioned it

  • @parappathenappa1429
    @parappathenappa1429 Рік тому

    Do you reckon this is still profitable with fewer voidstones to block with?

    • @the_gengar_master
      @the_gengar_master Рік тому

      Without blocking your chances are just worse which = less profits but im sure still doable. Don't just take my word for it though. 😅

  • @NicolasSaavedra27
    @NicolasSaavedra27 Рік тому

    I just applied this start and lost 60 sextants, thank you teach

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Рік тому

      This strat has moderate margins and high variance. At the time of this comment the expected value is profitable (i just double checked weights versus value on the market) but that may change and you also have to be willing to invest a good amount to ride low waves.

  • @tommyfischer8305
    @tommyfischer8305 Рік тому

    Hmm, I set up the blocks correctly as you showed and rolled about 9 divines of sextants and ended up with a loss of about 2 divines. Have prices just fallen that much already?

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Рік тому

      The big thing with this strat is to sell off the mediocre ones to make sure that you have a good baseline. If you ignore all the 2-3 sextant ones you'll definitely lose out only going for big boys!

    • @tommyfischer8305
      @tommyfischer8305 Рік тому

      @@subtractem Yes, I know, I'm also selling the cheeper ones too. Maybe I have just been really unlucky.

  • @ReadyToRek
    @ReadyToRek Рік тому

    Subtractem: No one cares about Einhar
    Einhar: See, Exile? Einhar told you he is not popular 😭

    • @m.h.4907
      @m.h.4907 Рік тому +1

      Einhar is bae, free suffix/prefix divine crafts

  • @afunnylookingsquash
    @afunnylookingsquash Рік тому

    Why would you waste so many sextants setting up the block? Just buy compasses that already have those rolls in them (shrine + extra monsters) and apply them, then you aren't wasting 29 sextants or whatever you did in the video.

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Рік тому +1

      Because each one you use is still profitable even without a block. Buying the blocks is actually inefficient.

  • @mitchellfuchs1097
    @mitchellfuchs1097 Рік тому

    Love the video, but i dunno if im just INSANELY unlucky because every time i do like 100 at a time i only net back maaaaaaaaybe 70 sextants if im lucky

  • @ocping
    @ocping Рік тому +1

    That's Path of Hideout, wrong game.

  • @thomasgrimm1664
    @thomasgrimm1664 Рік тому

    Can you block mods with awakened sextants and then roll your elevated ones? Or do blocks only work on the same sextant type?

    • @LordAnublz
      @LordAnublz Рік тому +1

      he even says it in the vid dude!

    • @thomasgrimm1664
      @thomasgrimm1664 Рік тому

      @@LordAnublz Sorry, must have missed it. Please, no hurt!

  • @WissenstattGlauben
    @WissenstattGlauben Рік тому

    i do this since start, you need luck to make profit somtimes you do minus.

  • @loopygordo
    @loopygordo Рік тому

    For the supremely lazy like myself. Just gonna keep selling mountains of sextants from jungle valley lol

    • @astraldreamer84
      @astraldreamer84 Рік тому

      Why jungle valley?

    • @archilus189
      @archilus189 Рік тому +1

      @@astraldreamer84 can't spawn boss altars on jungle valley, means much more awakened sextant drops from eldritch minions per map from searing exarch altars

  • @oyana1234
    @oyana1234 Рік тому

    somthing something this strategy doesnt have enough garlic naan Madge

  • @BDMBlackValor
    @BDMBlackValor Рік тому

    Couldnt watch the full video just wanted to say that if people are really trying to optimize and have the currency to do so roll while leveling gems empowers/enlightens in a 5way

  • @ukdnbmarsh
    @ukdnbmarsh Рік тому

    getting hold of elevated sextants isnt an easy thing to do

  • @dahyun121
    @dahyun121 Рік тому

    is this strat profitible if i only got 2 voidstones?

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Рік тому

      You're missing 2000 weighting from the blocks, missing out on a decent amount of efficiency for doing it. I strongly recommend getting all your stones before doing this.

    • @adnanku
      @adnanku Рік тому +1

      You can "buy" the other 2 from ppl selling boss service for like less then 1 div each and i strongly recommend doing that.

    • @LordAnublz
      @LordAnublz Рік тому +1

      @@adnanku 1 div?? If you pay more than 50c - in first week! - its your own fault.

  • @rodrigoantonio1995
    @rodrigoantonio1995 Рік тому

    Good day sir. Hope you're ok. By any means do you have any good items that you could sell on Standard? Like mage blood? I can trade some itens back.

  • @naweaver
    @naweaver Рік тому

    I don't get how you have almost 1500 divines. lol I have only seen 6 drop so far.

  • @down-the-rabbit-hole
    @down-the-rabbit-hole Рік тому

    I just wanted to say that GGG has now nerfed the SHIT out of this.....I'm not blaming Subtractem, since the nerf had not occurred yet at that time....They did what players refer to as a "silent nerf". And before you call it bad RNG . It's not like I bought 1 or 2 divine. Nope, I bought a little over 7 Divine with this and BARELY made a little over 2 Divine of it Back, so about a loss of 6 Divine. So you can't say that I had a small sample size since I bought so many. .....My thoughts are that GGG probably doesn't like players sitting in their hideouts and would rather have them play the game, so they pulled the old silent nerf crap! The Good sextans just don't come up NEAR as often.
    Also, for the record, last season I did this and did incredibly well every single time. It's like night and day between last league and this league. All I can say is Fuck GGG! I'm okay when they do nerfs and let players know about it, but it really pisses me off when they don't tell players about it and just let them waste their money. I'm just letting others know so they don't waste their hard earned currency. I'll be posting this on all of the other sextant rolling videos as well. Absolute Trash! You are much better off spending your Divine on Stacked Decks. That's what I'm going to do from here on out....

    • @burtonboarder503
      @burtonboarder503 Рік тому

      i can confirm, just went through 10 div worth of sextants and only made back 6 plus all the wasted time

  • @jdmarchand
    @jdmarchand Рік тому

    Thank you for hopefully making more people rolling sextants and getting the prices to drop

  • @TyanRube
    @TyanRube Рік тому

    Watched the whole video, everything was true

    • @tacticalG
      @tacticalG Рік тому

      Bruh it was uploaded 3 mins ago💀

  • @bernardoandreia3926
    @bernardoandreia3926 Рік тому

    You didn't show the worst part, selling the sextants even on TFT is hell, 20% of the sextants you can sell quickly, the rest takes a lifetime and you end up having to sell for 80-85% of the value, or it will be 1 week with them in the stash.
    Sometimes you're also unlucky and almost lose money, in my last attempt I bought 25 divines in awakened sextants and got only 26 div back, only 1 div of profit, 30 minutes rolling and another 5 hours selling lol.

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Рік тому +3

      Don't use tft, it's really a trap for most types of sales due to the percentage cuts. I literally haven't sold a single thing on Tft in multiple leagues at this point minus a couple Aislings.
      Just list them in a sale tab and keep playing the game. They sell very quickly. I did this on stream just a few days ago and the turnaround was so fast I could barely make compasses faster than they sold.

    • @StefanoCibi
      @StefanoCibi Рік тому +2

      Use poestacks to sell sextants

    • @richcats7249
      @richcats7249 Рік тому

      sold like 22 divines of them in 3 hours. stop trying to squeeze the most profit

    • @LordAnublz
      @LordAnublz Рік тому

      @@subtractem depends what you want to sell.
      Try to bulk sell/buy Invitation sets, Blighted Maps or heist without TFT ...
      Its the kind of trades I used it for - too bad I am banned now ... (Belton social score)

  • @KillerMZE
    @KillerMZE Рік тому

    I love the fact that people do this for profit so I can run whatever strategy I want, but I play video games to have fun, and rolling sextants just isn't fun

  • @luishrodg
    @luishrodg Рік тому

    Some tip, just buy your blocks

  • @Navi2K
    @Navi2K Рік тому

    as my first league ever didnt understand a single thing :) need to watch some other vid, how it really works

  • @DeeSanuts
    @DeeSanuts Рік тому

    prices have tanked, not profitable unless lucky

  • @kyugreywolf6801
    @kyugreywolf6801 Рік тому

    Thanks for the video

  • @kingpapai8087
    @kingpapai8087 Рік тому

    I am not doing this sextant rolling ever. Even it's profitable it's just not playing game, I better gamba gems and unique in temple than doing this.😅

  • @brettlocke7054
    @brettlocke7054 Рік тому

    Did this with elevated sextants, made like 40 divines in less than an hour.
    Did take the whole day to sell but pretty worth it.
    The rng relies on hitting enraged, else you will lose money.

    • @glutez
      @glutez Рік тому +1

      I tried this method after watching the video and was excited when I hit enraged and purple plants within 15 sextants.
      Immediately invested another 11 divine in this strategy. I only hit 4 enraged with 11 divine worth of sextants.
      I don't think i'll try this method again.

    • @brettlocke7054
      @brettlocke7054 Рік тому

      ​@glutez yep, it's gambling man and always a risk!

  • @fredrikjohansson5539
    @fredrikjohansson5539 Рік тому +1

    Its not the easyest imo, i spent 20divs and got 13div back, very missleading title, it may be profitable if your lucky, but so is everything, this is very far from a general moneyprinter

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Рік тому +1

      As with anything that has variance you can get unlucky. The video was posted a few days ago, always double check that prices haven't changed since then.

    • @astraldreamer84
      @astraldreamer84 Рік тому +2

      The same. This tactic is bullshit. Spend dozens of sextans and had only one worth something.
      Propably ggg nerfed it after this video.

    • @fredrikjohansson5539
      @fredrikjohansson5539 Рік тому

      Call me stupid but i went and spent another 20div worth of sextants and this time i only lost 2div

  • @bryannguyen6836
    @bryannguyen6836 Рік тому

    What are the chances I could get a HH from you? Played since Prophecy league and still never made enough currency to buy one 😢

  • @zrk117
    @zrk117 Рік тому

    so basically only sell for sextants and make profit by selling all your sextant when you are done with it ?

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Рік тому

      correct! i sold 400 sextants for 15 divines (~7.3 chaos per) just a couple days ago. in big enough bulk it sells incredibly well.

    • @Leaf__22
      @Leaf__22 Рік тому

      ​@@subtractemseems like basically no profit

  • @onur6396
    @onur6396 Рік тому

    If you are an unlucky mf like me u will loose 3 divines rolling 5div worth of sextants.

  • @juniocesar5101
    @juniocesar5101 Рік тому

    i d rather not play the game

  • @Oldmate-ke6bv
    @Oldmate-ke6bv Рік тому

    GG sextant market XD

  • @panayiotismarkou6068
    @panayiotismarkou6068 Рік тому +1

    You should mention somewhere that people should not do this without the "sextants have an additional use/4uses" from the atlas tree. Right by the big eater of worlds circle

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Рік тому +6

      You should watch the video :) 4:51

  • @jonasxie5230
    @jonasxie5230 Рік тому

    Nice

  • @Osiris261
    @Osiris261 Рік тому

    sextant.. the thing you love and hate at the same time.. really sucks to bulk buy this stuff.. wish they nerfed the drop rate of sextant and increased the uses... to like 20 or something.. its a pain to constantly have to buy these... overall i would not mind if gg said : hey next league wont have a mechanic.. we are reworking stuff in the game to make it more appealing to players... such is nerfing the amount of loot.. and increasing effect.. some already talked about the orb of chance/ scouring being retardet boring... i played poe for 12 years... i picked up orb of chance... every league because i use neversink... and i NEVER EVER used them.. would be nice if the drop chance was lower... and chance for upgrading to uniq higher..
    also when you clean your quad stash.. would be nice with a sell entire stash.. since cleaning it takes alot of time... but i guess this is a buisness model choice.. people tend to just buy another stash instead of spending time cleaning what they aready have... i know my friend does this.. and i did this aswell.... so.. might be on purpose...
    also when you do sell items from stash.. would be nice to have a Disable vendor recipe option.. since i often trade 5 rings /amulets /belt.. and get 1 crap item back in return instead of the more valuable option.. alterations.. same goes for mirrored items.. sometimes you sell 2 x 6 sockets/link chest.. and instead of 40 fusing you get and orb of bullshit.. chance i mean... :D ... there is a million small tweaks they could make to make the player experience better.. at the cost of one league..

  • @Sebi2169
    @Sebi2169 Рік тому

    1482 D

  • @indiegamesonly6617
    @indiegamesonly6617 Рік тому

    TOO MUCH TALKING FFS

  • @jordanearl5449
    @jordanearl5449 Рік тому

    this is pretty hard bait tbh, its not uncommon to just lose everything you put into it if you have a streak of badluck. don't buy sextants do this people. farm them yourself.

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Рік тому +1

      Nope.
      Expected value is lower profit than it was a couple weeks ago but early league it was INSANE profit and it's still pretty decent. The point of the video is sharing how you do the strat less than saying "do this now for money"

  • @JJ-cr2oy
    @JJ-cr2oy Рік тому

    Another poe cOnTEnT cREaTOR shits in the good farm strat. Hope all your family is alive and well

    • @CasualDudeGaming
      @CasualDudeGaming Рік тому

      as if lots of players werent doing them in the pass lmfao. stfu

  • @TVK804
    @TVK804 Рік тому

    yes lets show every money making strat in the game so nobody makes money anymore in the future.

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Рік тому +6

      That's not how this works. Grow a brain cell.

  • @MrDeothor
    @MrDeothor Рік тому

    if rolling and selling sextants is profitable (and evn more profitable than just "playing"), then you know the game economy is badly designed.

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Рік тому +1

      i disagree, due to time versus money and peoples' preferences i think it points to a beautifully nuanced economy.

    • @MrDeothor
      @MrDeothor Рік тому

      @@subtractem i guess i can't really see the "play without playing" playstyle in PoE. In MMOs? Sure, but in here it just feels wrong.

  • @commandershepard5636
    @commandershepard5636 Рік тому

    I farmed 500 divines doing this first 2 weeks now alot of youtubers posting these vids and sextant alread 37/1 divine.

    • @Warwipf
      @Warwipf Рік тому +1

      Yeah, fuck that. I hate when youtubers catch wind of something like that and shit out a video that completely demolishes the method it is about.

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Рік тому +11

      I've been doing/talking about this strategy on and off for over a year (I even referenced PoM's video from last year in this video for my data comparison).
      There's no "shitting out a video demolishing a method," if anything the purpose of this video is to have a reference for the future. It's all about building up a library of strats and adapting based on moving market forces.
      If you only think short term and do what the latest video says you'll never realize the most profit, but if you remember things from the past and adapt you'll always be one step ahead.

    • @Darkfailz
      @Darkfailz Рік тому +2

      sextants have been at 37/1div for weeks now wdym my guy?

    • @Rushx415
      @Rushx415 Рік тому

      doesn't matter how many people do it there will always be a need for sextants

    • @Warwipf
      @Warwipf Рік тому +2

      @@subtractem I hate it when youtubers catch wind of something and then shit out a video a year later that demolishes the method!

  • @Sinister01264
    @Sinister01264 Рік тому +2

    You only do that so other start doing it, then awakened sextant goes up, and you sell your stacks... Pretty lame

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Рік тому +14

      I literally said I sold mine a couple days ago at the beginning of the video. I have 30 sextants to my name right now and am sitting on more currency than I'll ever use for the rest of the league. I work VERY hard to not profit off of my videos and be as "ethical" as I can be while sharing information.
      F off with that trash.

    • @SappinYourSentries
      @SappinYourSentries Рік тому

      They’re still gonna 36-37 per divine like they’re been for weeks my guy.

    • @victorgbs
      @victorgbs Рік тому

      The sextant market is waaaayyyy too liquid and robust to be disrupted by a single vid. People are not going to stop juicing and for that they need compasses, and tons and tons of those. When I need to refuel I keep aggressively refreshing poestack and it is very common to be late to whisper someone that posted a popular sextant stack less than 20 seconds ago.

  • @Ser_Jorah
    @Ser_Jorah Рік тому

    Hmm, just tried this and turned like 85 sextants into about 60

  • @h3idixtreme36
    @h3idixtreme36 Рік тому

    Great info as per usual.