The boys were failed by the system. The adoptive parents ended up being worse than the birth parents. These boys should be given their birth names back....RIP Cincere and Classic.
@@hannahcabana5403 Poor families. My daughter works as a contractor for cps trying to unify. Poor families of all ethnicities have their children stolen
Suspicions did u really listen to that interview he said he came in the boys were there he went insude came back out they were gone then he went back into ask !!! Why ask u was just out there and he said he saw them to me this was the 1st obvious from tReLIE
That is what bothers me about this, The reports are not being forthcoming at all. As someone who thinks they totally did it, I still haven't seen proof and all that any video says is that they "have evidence" that the boys died 3 months before they were reported missing.... but they don't have the bodies. I am just saying the cops are leaving out what the Evidence/proof. I know legally speaking they aren't supposed to share but News outlets always get their hands on that kind of info anyway. I just don't know how you prove they had been dead for 3 months before they were reported missing without bodies over a year after it happens. I mean unless one of them got a guilty conscious and confessed.
@Jay86 Yea but they admitted they don't have bodies. what could possibly PROVE that these people did it or they were dead in that time frame without a body? i just don't get that idea unless someone confessed or they have video of something happening. which at that point there would be little point to hide it. just sounds weird to me. I still think they did it.
I think soon the wife will start talking and I also believe it's more kids the question is why wasn't cps doing well visits they be so quick to give people's kids away but Don't make sure they are ok smh the birth parents need answers🙏
We all knew they did it, but to have it confirmed is devastating and it hurts my heart. These 2 precious boys deserved so much better. I'm so sorry Orrin and Orson, you both deserved so much better 💔
But three months and then calling and making up a story he was kidnapped that was something I didn't expect was the boy was murdered three months before that time.
Unless you watched them do it. No one knows anything. There’s still the possibility of bio parents coming to take them or a friend of theirs to do it with and for them. Unless they found their bodies in their yard or somewhere their towers pinged then there’s no proof. I back up my car all the way to the door when shopping and unloading my groceries as it’s normally 1k worth. Not all kids go outside. Basically. No kids do unless at school and they’re made to do so. They’re all addicted to TVs and tablets and phones. So. Unless there’s been blood found of the boys in their home and car and bodies found on their property there’s no proof. I still 100% think the bio parents came and found their kids and hiding them out.
@@gettheoffmyaccount.6412 wow $1,000 worth of groceries? You must have a huge family or rich lol such a blessing that’s a rent payment each month for me! NO these two are guilty. Bad acting.
Yes it should be a crime still collecting money for them. Now they were still unemployed when arrested and taxpayers will foot the bill for public defender's and potentially years of incarceration. Sorry, but reinstate the death penalty.
How were they collecting money for them, as I thought they were adopted not foster children. And once adopted no longer in the system, like a foster child. Or am I wrong? ❤Justice for these sweet little angels. ❤❤
@@kimikae4170 they collected off government I e.our tax dollars for medical,food and monthly money for the fact that one or both of these boys may have had some disability.
I took my son on his first trip to the beach in august, he’s 4 and has autism, nonverbal. I got caught up for what seemed like seconds fiddling with the umbrella and my son wandered off. The feeling of panic I would never wish on another human being, but I’m sure many parents relate. I screamed so loud it could probably be heard up the coast. When the realization hit me milliseconds later that he couldn’t even respond to me, it took the voice out of my mouth and the breath from my lungs. I had a full blown panic attack and started running up on people frantic in every direction… maybe 15, 20 seconds my sister yells that she’s found him, he had wandered down to the water to play by himself and was laughing and having the time of his life. He had his life jacket on but I fell apart and thought I was the worst mom ever couldn’t stop crying imagining the things that could’ve happened to him. Even thinking about it to this day makes me sob. These sick mf didn’t care about those kids, not a single bit.
So u knew adoptive parents were lying to press as well. It seems there r more pedos today & evil. Hard to raise a child to be safe but not paranoid! I believe they accused neighbors of having them as well, & wanting all homes searched.
@@queenofkings7453 The courts will call them by their legal names. And the parents lost custody of these kids- let’s not pretend they were great parents.
Notice that lady mentioned their body language? That’s what tipped it off to me, and to you. We all knew. Behavior Panel did a great job analyzing the Wests.
This morning i watched another video where a mother who lost her rights stated her child was also placed in the home with these parents. She has requested "proof of life" but so far nothing. I pray they weren't fostering /adopting kids and then getting rid of them. Every child they have fostered needs to be investigated. This is heartbreaking.
the neighbor said they saw "other kids" but not these two babies. So who were those other kids and where are they? could they be selling children into sex trafficking? another birth mother said her child ended up in that house, asked for proof her child is alive and well and never received an answer.
That woman had her parental rights ended for a reason. She has no legal rights to know where her bio children are. CPS has probably interviewed all the children that spent time with the Wests and they should insure they’re safe but it’s been 5 years- let those kids grow up without the drama of a mother who gave them up in the first place.
I think we all knew these parents did something! They acted to strangely about the whole thing! From the start. There was just a bad feeling about them. I hope they both get life in a tough prison, no chance of parole.
Dear CPS, Congratulations for removing perfectly happy and loved kids from their biological parents home and handed them over to a perfect strangers that murdered them. CPS, I hope you're proud of your achievements!!😭😭
@@spiritwings4592 No she wasn't. She abused the older one. Severely. And don't tell me to check facts because I did. She was an indiscriminately breeding pig who should be sterilized.
ooooh I love the neighbor commentary. Its nice to get their perspective for sure. That piece where he said "he backed up the van to the door to seal the scene" 100% chris watts vibe all day
Everybody knew from the start they were involved but i m really relief invedtigators manage to charge them. Judging by the time it takes them to investigate they probably have enough evidences to send them to jail for ever! Justice for those innocents baby boys ! Prayers for the biological family
You have managed to solve the world's alcohol, drug and violence problem, if only you could meet all of the above and become a motivational speaker there would be no incest, child abuse, gambling, domestic violence, child exploitation, sex trafficking, pornography.
It is for us to judge though- we live in a society we can’t ignore children who are being abused at home. The boys were taken away for a reason; I empathize with the mother but I do judge both bio parents. They had these kids and lost them to the system rather than (in moms case) give up smoking medical weed. It wasn’t a sudden unexpected life event that took these kids out of the home. The parents put other interests ahead of complying with the court and keeping custody.
@@mtz6198 until pregnancy and sex are banned from the human species, I guess some will continue to sit in their glass castles not getting involved in the real world
So sad. They could've just gave them back to the system if they didn't want them. I'm sure they were better off in a loving home. These boys deserve justice. Prayers to the biological mother. 🙏🏻😔
I didn’t hear any fraud charges in there. They should be charged with fraud too. I’m sure they collected for three months on those two little sweethearts.
I thought the boys were adopted, not foster care. You don't collect pay for an adopted child, do you. As an adopted child is supposed to be your child not in the system any longer. These poor sweet little babies! My heart breaks.... And my understanding is the bio mom should have never had them taken away, and then for whatever reason they were allowed to be adopted out within months, no chance of the mother regaining custody. I don't know a lot about this case but it all seems weird and fishy how everything happened, sadly. ❤❤Rest in Peace sweet angels ❤❤
These things are happening way too much! I can barely stand to see the news anymore. Sometimes I wake up thinking of Orrin & Orson...who, by the way, should have their REAL names Cincere & Classic back, not the names they were given by the monsters who allegedly ERASED them completely! Prayers and Peace to their family...
I'm happy that the state didn't give up on this case every one suspected them and now they need to give those boys and their biological family peace and tell authorities where the remains are so they can be laid to rest
may these 2 beautiful boys finally be in peace.I can't imagine what they went through in their short little lives. Shame on our system for not checking who they adopted to and not checking on the boys to make sure they were being well cared for If you are doing a good job,you should not hesitate to show that off to the social workers.
Jorge, thanks for saying you saw their white van backing into the house, but I pray you told this to police back when the boys first went missing versus only coming forward now! It could help with the police investigation
What a tragedy adopting children and then murdering them. What did they do? Got money for them and the money stopped so they killed them. RIP Little ones fly high you are now angels with God.
Such cute babies, so sad and heartbreaking. Justice needs to be served for these baby's and their families. These baby's need to be found, this is devastating, heartbreaking, depressing and despicable.
Question: Was FRAUD Charge overlooked? These so called Foster/Adoptive parents collected Foster Care/Adoption checks while these Lil boys had allegedly already been MURDERED⁉️‼️😶
This is just happening too dang much it’s insane! In the last years so many babies and children are suffering at the hands of their own parents adopted or not
I'd say that the adoption foster program needs an overhaul stat, surely they can't be so desperate that they thought these 2 would be good candidates as foster parents!
If you don't take care of your own children why would you expect some strangers to. This would not have happened if some people would make different decisions
Agree. And the courts offered terms to regain custody and the parent opted out. I’m sure she’s genuinely broken from this loss but you can’t ignore why this situation was made possible.
I want to know how an adoption took place so quickly! Are they coving the fact that they are actually foster parents. Which would be another CPS failure. As well as the judicial system that placed them .
According to the mother, she didn't complete a court mandated drug program. Because according to her she wasn't able to find any drug programs that considered weed a drug.
I'm glad they got them in custody. I hope they aren't released next week to harm more children. Poor babies. They just never had a chance 😔 I would gladly take in babies and love them like I love my own. These kids deserve so much more
Why did they took them from their mom. She had a job and loved them with all her heart. And a big army of relatives. Some good planning and work with her and her family would be the better way.
She had to pass a drug test per the judge on her case. She wouldn’t stop using weed (medical, the court can still order you to stop using) . Im not sure where the father was during all of this but either no one in the family applied to adopt them or know were eligible. I’m sure the mom loved them but she didn’t protect them.
@@mtz6198 That's what I saw, a large family and noone found fit at least according to protocols to be assigned to take care. Mom was troubled but at least she was struggling to improve her life and she loved them unconditionally. First comes the work with the immediate family then the extended family and the last option is giving them to strangers.
@@iselacowen5441 She showed pictures of them smiling healthy looking and happy. The Wests gave just a few pictures the boys and they look very thin, in old clothes. Didn't they have better pictures. These kids were not loved, they were just a benefit money machines.
Stop calling them the West boys...give them back their real names💯 these demons were never their parents.....I KNEW it when I saw their interview too......this is so heartbreaking 😥
Trevell West of had stated and his first and only interview and he stated that some of out the dirt the kids not to get in the dirt and I'm looking at the yard surrounding this house and there's just dirt all throughout you know I mean like how can you miss it and how can you expect for a child of three and four years old not to get dirty outside of the house while playing. How old was each of the children in the custody or interested care of the West? I feel like the ages is of importance and do need to be being reported in it's Entirety along with all the persons that's involved in this story and any other story that's being told don't necessarily have to be the names of the children but ages of the children does matter. - Investigation
In another video, they reported that all of their kids' ages were from 10 years old and younger than 10, these toddler boys were the youngest, 3 and 4 years old. But they can't disclose much because these 2 monsters allegedly involved those older children in the crime.
Nope those boys were dead before they packed up and moved away from their apartment. What they did with them and who else was involved in the coverup is what I’m waiting to hear from the court when they are arranged in court.
Those poor babies! I knew those parents were responsible, they were just too calm when they spoke to News stations! Counties need to check on adopted children for a good year or more and if they move, the paperwork needs to follow them to their new state or county of residence!!
@@floridanuthouse There’s language in the charging document about inducing a minor to commit a crime and speculation is they involved one or more of the older kids. I don’t know how old the bio kids are but I’ve heard 12 and 15.
Why adopt the little children and then harm them it is truly shocking. Just inform the state if you can't cope don't hurt little innocent children like that.
This is the saddest look how cute these babies are I'm dying. To have two beautiful babies like that. You could have gave them away to somebody that would love those beautiful babies. I really just want to go and scream at the top of my lungs. But that ain't going to bring them back. Luckily I don't know them they wouldn't have made it to jail and that's the damn truth word to my mama
The dude was a neat freak …and did not allowed his kids to go outside and get dirty , why no one has pictures of their home on the inside ? It would speak for it self
I believe something must have happened to both boys by accident then they covered it up to protect themselves so they won't be perceived as being rotten parents and other kids taken away that mom possibly couldn't have not known they live in the same house rest boys we all are so sorry this happened to you may justice be served!
God that’s a short time to look for children. I would be hyperventilating and crying looking for them. I’ve spent more time looking for a lost dog, that wasn’t even mine. These poor babies.
I have to disagree with you, people say this all the time but we have institutions and orphanages filled with children all over the world including the USA and no one is clamoring to take them in and give them loving homes. We have millions willing to take some children as long as they are getting paid to do so.
@@catdooley4616 Yes; and fostering or adopting kids who are not babies, may have developmental delays from poor prenatal care or drug use, are POC and trying to keep siblings together? Those kids are hard to place, and it gets worse as time passes and they get older. All I can suggest is we work harder to make birth control accessible and maybe slow the cycle. There are too many children and not enough parents when you get rid of the bad ones.
Bc, honestly, few people actually adopt children. And the people who do foster and adopt are turning out to be predators. It's an extremely flawed system.
@@k.rebuilding and it used to be when you adopt that you stop receiving money for those children. That. Doesn’t seem to be the case anymore. I believe in some states they continue to get paid. Especially if the child is autistic.
@@queenofkings7453 I know adoptive parents get money in FL. Regardless of income. Even wealthy adoptive parents will get a check and state sponsored healthcare for each adopted child. Honestly, adoption has never been as altruistic as ppl fancy it to be. Parenting, in general, is a fairly selfish endeavor. It's vanity to need to recreate our own image. We need offspring to replace our workforce. Those aren't conversations ppl like to have.
I really wish people wouldn’t refer to the boys as Orrin and Orson West, it’s so disrespectful in light of what these evil people did. I always got the feeling that Trazelle had a dark side and Jaqueline just followed his lead, 🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️. RIP sweet babies 😢 😢😢
I would like to hear from neighbors at both places they lived whether their brown Pitbull looking dog named Chaulk (meaning terminal, ending) seemed friendly and whether or not the kids actually played with the dog.
Someone needs to get the old, ruined, and icky stuffed animals out of there and into a receptacle. At this point it looks creepy 😐 Still hopeful and praying for these precious little angels to be found and have a proper burial. This way they can truly RIP .... 🙏 🙏 🕊 🕊 💙 💙
So why would a murdering couple actually adopt the children in the first place? This is bizarre and they deserve to be in jail and then prison for their lifetimes. Those poor little children😥😥
Pure evil , what did those little angels do to deserve that, absolutely nothing. So sorry little angels . Despicable evil humans doing this to helpless babys.
The boys were failed by the system. The adoptive parents ended up being worse than the birth parents. These boys should be given their birth names back....RIP Cincere and Classic.
AMEN it hurts my heart when I hear the names those murderers gave them.
The system was never designed to protect black families
@@hannahcabana5403 Poor families. My daughter works as a contractor for cps trying to unify. Poor families of all ethnicities have their children stolen
@@hannahcabana5403 dear lord. Why bring race in to it. Children of all races die, on what seems like the daily, in the foster care system.
They get them kids for a check it’s sad they want the money but just not the kids
Everyone had their suspicions, but I’m glad they have proof & maybe these babies will get the justice they deserve.
Suspicions did u really listen to that interview he said he came in the boys were there he went insude came back out they were gone then he went back into ask !!! Why ask u was just out there and he said he saw them to me this was the 1st obvious from tReLIE
Great idea
That is what bothers me about this, The reports are not being forthcoming at all. As someone who thinks they totally did it, I still haven't seen proof and all that any video says is that they "have evidence" that the boys died 3 months before they were reported missing.... but they don't have the bodies. I am just saying the cops are leaving out what the Evidence/proof. I know legally speaking they aren't supposed to share but News outlets always get their hands on that kind of info anyway.
I just don't know how you prove they had been dead for 3 months before they were reported missing without bodies over a year after it happens. I mean unless one of them got a guilty conscious and confessed.
@Jay86 Yea but they admitted they don't have bodies. what could possibly PROVE that these people did it or they were dead in that time frame without a body? i just don't get that idea unless someone confessed or they have video of something happening. which at that point there would be little point to hide it.
just sounds weird to me. I still think they did it.
@Jay86 didn’t think about that. Makes sense, would just wonder why it took so long to charge them then.
Now they need to be honest and tell the police where their bodies are.
Those poor babies.
Yea don't hold your breath. These monsters out here won't tell anyone where they are. To many examples out there.
@@youallthinkyouknow1314 they just pleaded not guilty-I don’t think they’ll be giving up a location for the boy’s bodies anytime soon.
They will use the location of the boys as a bargaining chip for a lighter sentence. Just wait and see. Disgraceful.
I think soon the wife will start talking and I also believe it's more kids the question is why wasn't cps doing well visits they be so quick to give people's kids away but Don't make sure they are ok smh the birth parents need answers🙏
We all knew they did it, but to have it confirmed is devastating and it hurts my heart. These 2 precious boys deserved so much better. I'm so sorry Orrin and Orson, you both deserved so much better 💔
The evil in the world is real and it is heartbreaking daily. They are with God now 🙏 bless you for showing your gentle heart
But three months and then calling and making up a story he was kidnapped that was something I didn't expect was the boy was murdered three months before that time.
Classic and Cinsere 💙
Unless you watched them do it. No one knows anything. There’s still the possibility of bio parents coming to take them or a friend of theirs to do it with and for them. Unless they found their bodies in their yard or somewhere their towers pinged then there’s no proof. I back up my car all the way to the door when shopping and unloading my groceries as it’s normally 1k worth. Not all kids go outside. Basically. No kids do unless at school and they’re made to do so. They’re all addicted to TVs and tablets and phones. So. Unless there’s been blood found of the boys in their home and car and bodies found on their property there’s no proof. I still 100% think the bio parents came and found their kids and hiding them out.
@@gettheoffmyaccount.6412 wow $1,000 worth of groceries? You must have a huge family or rich lol such a blessing that’s a rent payment each month for me! NO these two are guilty. Bad acting.
Those precious boys! So heartbreaking for their loved ones!
what loved ones
Wanda said “she saw them on thanksgiving” 👀🤥. She needs to be arrested as well 👿
@@101GM8 yes .
And said she saw them on December 19th when the other 4 boys were dropped off. They all need to be changed. Jamal too.
Exactly!! She's complicit!! 🤬😡😡
Isn’t it a crime to keep getting money for these kids. Charge them with everything.
Exactly! They were being paid while the kids were ready dead!
Yes it should be a crime still collecting money for them. Now they were still unemployed when arrested and taxpayers will foot the bill for public defender's and potentially years of incarceration. Sorry, but reinstate the death penalty.
How were they collecting money for them, as I thought they were adopted not foster children. And once adopted no longer in the system, like a foster child. Or am I wrong?
❤Justice for these sweet little angels. ❤❤
@@kimikae4170 they collected off government I e.our tax dollars for medical,food and monthly money for the fact that one or both of these boys may have had some disability.
From South Carolina…we love you beautiful boys. Rest In Peace. You will get justice!!!
People should refuse to use their names given by the adopted monsters..use their names given to them at birth by their mother
@Tee bag, exactly
Their birth parents lost them tho, why?
@@ThePathOfLeastResistanc Lost them.. didn’t murder them.
I took my son on his first trip to the beach in august, he’s 4 and has autism, nonverbal. I got caught up for what seemed like seconds fiddling with the umbrella and my son wandered off. The feeling of panic I would never wish on another human being, but I’m sure many parents relate. I screamed so loud it could probably be heard up the coast. When the realization hit me milliseconds later that he couldn’t even respond to me, it took the voice out of my mouth and the breath from my lungs. I had a full blown panic attack and started running up on people frantic in every direction… maybe 15, 20 seconds my sister yells that she’s found him, he had wandered down to the water to play by himself and was laughing and having the time of his life. He had his life jacket on but I fell apart and thought I was the worst mom ever couldn’t stop crying imagining the things that could’ve happened to him. Even thinking about it to this day makes me sob. These sick mf didn’t care about those kids, not a single bit.
Glad your kid was fine. You sound like a kind loving mother.
I know the feeling all to well!!
So u knew adoptive parents were lying to press as well. It seems there r more pedos today & evil. Hard to raise a child to be safe but not paranoid! I believe they accused neighbors of having them as well, & wanting all homes searched.
OMG! These neighbors are amazing!
# JUSTICE FOR CLASSIC AND CINCERE.... 💙💙🙏🙏🕯🕯
Justice! I refuse to call them by any other name. It’s disrespectful as hell!
@@queenofkings7453 The courts will call them by their legal names. And the parents lost custody of these kids- let’s not pretend they were great parents.
@@mtz6198
Remember there were no evidence. None what soever!
Again the court accepted the lies from people with hatred in the heart.
I am so sorry to hear this. I was praying that they were still alive. Those little boys did not deserve this. I hope that justice is served. 💔💔
Notice that lady mentioned their body language? That’s what tipped it off to me, and to you. We all knew. Behavior Panel did a great job analyzing the Wests.
Even the biological mother said the parents did something, very unfortunate faith for the boys, thank you officers for closing in.
A mother always knows .
This morning i watched another video where a mother who lost her rights stated her child was also placed in the home with these parents. She has requested "proof of life" but so far nothing. I pray they weren't fostering /adopting kids and then getting rid of them. Every child they have fostered needs to be investigated. This is heartbreaking.
the neighbor said they saw "other kids" but not these two babies. So who were those other kids and where are they? could they be selling children into sex trafficking? another birth mother said her child ended up in that house, asked for proof her child is alive and well and never received an answer.
I thought when this first happened it was reported that they removed all the children back when they first reported the boys missing.
That woman had her parental rights ended for a reason. She has no legal rights to know where her bio children are. CPS has probably interviewed all the children that spent time with the Wests and they should insure they’re safe but it’s been 5 years- let those kids grow up without the drama of a mother who gave them up in the first place.
@@mtz6198 WOW SUCH LIES. THIS MOTHER NEVER GAVE UP HER CHILDREN. CPS STOLE THEM FROM HER.
I’m sorry once this case is completed and these adopted monsters go to prison the other mother will have the right to her children.
poor little angels may they rest in peace
I think we all knew these parents did something! They acted to strangely about the whole thing! From the start. There was just a bad feeling about them. I hope they both get life in a tough prison, no chance of parole.
Dear CPS,
Congratulations for removing perfectly happy and loved kids from their biological parents home and handed them over to a perfect strangers that murdered them. CPS, I hope you're proud of your achievements!!😭😭
@@jq3702 how do you know, CPS is known to lie and be shady also!
@@jq3702 do you know the facts in this situation?
@@spiritwings4592 No she wasn't. She abused the older one. Severely. And don't tell me to check facts because I did. She was an indiscriminately breeding pig who should be sterilized.
@@CCnoodle Yes, it’s a fact. She has been searching for her children. She has proof.
@@dreamingtree6093 ALL LIES
Yes. The body language was definitely a tip off.
Justice for Classic and Cinsere 💙💙🙏
Their names are CLASSIC AND SINCERE (SINCERELY SORRY IF SPELLED INCORRECTLY) RIP BABIES
Every time I hear Orrin and Orson my skin crawls cincere and classic for me
ooooh I love the neighbor commentary. Its nice to get their perspective for sure. That piece where he said "he backed up the van to the door to seal the scene" 100% chris watts vibe all day
Everybody knew from the start they were involved but i m really relief invedtigators manage to charge them. Judging by the time it takes them to investigate they probably have enough evidences to send them to jail for ever! Justice for those innocents baby boys ! Prayers for the biological family
I know people who have sat in county jail for years before trial
It's about time🙏🏾
It's not for us to judge the birth parents. This system of fostering needs to be overhauled and cases need to be managed much more regularly.
You have managed to solve the world's alcohol, drug and violence problem, if only you could meet all of the above and become a motivational speaker there would be no incest, child abuse, gambling, domestic violence, child exploitation, sex trafficking, pornography.
It is for us to judge though- we live in a society we can’t ignore children who are being abused at home. The boys were taken away for a reason; I empathize with the mother but I do judge both bio parents. They had these kids and lost them to the system rather than (in moms case) give up smoking medical weed. It wasn’t a sudden unexpected life event that took these kids out of the home. The parents put other interests ahead of complying with the court and keeping custody.
@@alisonj9533 People struggling to manage their own lives have no business having children that they can’t and won’t raise.
@@mtz6198 until pregnancy and sex are banned from the human species, I guess some will continue to sit in their glass castles not getting involved in the real world
They stripped those boys of their identity by changing their names! Justice for Cincere and Classic 🙏🏾❤️
So sad. They could've just gave them back to the system if they didn't want them. I'm sure they were better off in a loving home. These boys deserve justice. Prayers to the biological mother. 🙏🏻😔
If they would have gave them back they wouldn’t have been getting any money and that’s all they care about.
@@Momma_AL exactly. They killed them because once they adopt them the foster payments end. ABSOLUTELY VILE!! 😡
They don’t…my grandmother did with no problem…they tried to convince her and I’m like ???? 😬 we survived by leaving that house not staying
I didn’t hear any fraud charges in there. They should be charged with fraud too. I’m sure they collected for three months on those two little sweethearts.
I thought the boys were adopted, not foster care. You don't collect pay for an adopted child, do you. As an adopted child is supposed to be your child not in the system any longer.
These poor sweet little babies! My heart breaks.... And my understanding is the bio mom should have never had them taken away, and then for whatever reason they were allowed to be adopted out within months, no chance of the mother regaining custody. I don't know a lot about this case but it all seems weird and fishy how everything happened, sadly.
❤❤Rest in Peace sweet angels ❤❤
I knew it was them in the beginning. How horrible. Rest in peace babies 👶 😔
These things are happening way too much! I can barely stand to see the news anymore.
Sometimes I wake up thinking of Orrin & Orson...who, by the way, should have their REAL names Cincere & Classic back, not the names they were given by the monsters who allegedly ERASED them completely!
Prayers and Peace to their family...
So sad to hear. But we all were praying for a positive outcome.
The patents did not seem at all concerned. Those poor babies.
May they rest in Heaven.
Those two were Never Classic and Cinsere's parents.
I knew in my heart that he did something to those babies 😩😭
Thank goodness those evil custodians won’t have the opportunity to hurt another child. RIP Orrin and Orsin 🙏
IN MY VIEW
They are two beautiful little boys. I can't wrap my head around anyone harming these little angels.
I'm happy that the state didn't give up on this case every one suspected them and now they need to give those boys and their biological family peace and tell authorities where the remains are so they can be laid to rest
Those sweet little angels I’m at a loss for words. 😢💔
may these 2 beautiful boys finally be in peace.I can't imagine what they went through in their short little lives. Shame on our system for not checking who they adopted to and not checking on the boys to make sure they were being well cared for If you are doing a good job,you should not hesitate to show that off to the social workers.
I hope now that those 2 little angels can rest in pease now.
Jorge, thanks for saying you saw their white van backing into the house, but I pray you told this to police back when the boys first went missing versus only coming forward now! It could help with the police investigation
This really breaks my heart.
What a tragedy adopting children and then murdering them. What did they do? Got money for them and the money stopped so they killed them. RIP Little ones fly high you are now angels with God.
I knew they had something to do with it. This has got to stop. Some people are monsters.
Such cute babies, so sad and heartbreaking. Justice needs to be served for these baby's and their families. These baby's need to be found, this is devastating, heartbreaking, depressing and despicable.
Question: Was FRAUD Charge overlooked? These so called Foster/Adoptive parents collected Foster Care/Adoption checks while these Lil boys had allegedly already been MURDERED⁉️‼️😶
Has anyone gone to Wild Wanda's house and ask how she feels about her son being a Murderer
Yes AV went 👏👏👏
Probably AV watchman and Roe Roe 😢
This is just happening too dang much it’s insane! In the last years so many babies and children are suffering at the hands of their own parents adopted or not
I'd say that the adoption foster program needs an overhaul stat, surely they can't be so desperate that they thought these 2 would be good candidates as foster parents!
Whose covering the indictment tomorrow?
Grand jury indictment is done .Ots now an arraignment hearing
Woah I’ve been following this since the beginning & often think about the boys . Very sad 😞
This is so heartbreaking 💔 May those sweet Angels rest in peace 🙏🏻🙏🏻
I’m glad the cops never gave up
These babies went straight to god. So God will take care of the murderers. They don’t deserve to have the name of parents.
If you don't take care of your own children why would you expect some strangers to. This would not have happened if some people would make different decisions
Agree. And the courts offered terms to regain custody and the parent opted out. I’m sure she’s genuinely broken from this loss but you can’t ignore why this situation was made possible.
I want to know how an adoption took place so quickly! Are they coving the fact that they are actually foster parents. Which would be another CPS failure. As well as the judicial system that placed them .
Them boys were never in that hone .
If they have such a loving family how in the hell did they get adopted?
Because the system is incompetent.
According to the mother, she didn't complete a court mandated drug program. Because according to her she wasn't able to find any drug programs that considered weed a drug.
@@catdooley4616 I’d give up medicinal mj for custody personally. And no mention of why bio dad didn’t have custody?
Exactly the other family didn't care they just as guilty they failed them
I'm glad they got them in custody. I hope they aren't released next week to harm more children. Poor babies. They just never had a chance 😔 I would gladly take in babies and love them like I love my own. These kids deserve so much more
There's no bail/bond so no release until this goes to trial. Then they need to get the Max
Poor sweet innocent babies!😢 God bless their souls in heaven 🙏
All the Neighbors Say that, THEY did Not see the missing boys at the house nor in the backyard playing??* RED FLAG!!!!!
Why did they took them from their mom. She had a job and loved them with all her heart. And a big army of relatives. Some good planning and work with her and her family would be the better way.
CPS????????? THAT AGENCY NEEDS TO BE TAKEN OVER
She had to pass a drug test per the judge on her case. She wouldn’t stop using weed (medical, the court can still order you to stop using) . Im not sure where the father was during all of this but either no one in the family applied to adopt them or know were eligible.
I’m sure the mom loved them but she didn’t protect them.
To have 2 sweet babies In the hands of Monsters because Mom legally was using MM is sick.The Judge should be removed from BENCH
@@mtz6198 That's what I saw, a large family and noone found fit at least according to protocols to be assigned to take care. Mom was troubled but at least she was struggling to improve her life and she loved them unconditionally.
First comes the work with the immediate family then the extended family and the last option is giving them to strangers.
@@iselacowen5441 She showed pictures of them smiling healthy looking and happy. The Wests gave just a few pictures the boys and they look very thin, in old clothes. Didn't they have better pictures. These kids were not loved, they were just a benefit money machines.
Stop calling them the West boys...give them back their real names💯 these demons were never their parents.....I KNEW it when I saw their interview too......this is so heartbreaking 😥
Their “real” parents weren’t raising them either though. I feel like the community cared more for them then any of the “parents” did.
All I can say is thank you for letting us know. It's a sad day, but that least we know. 😥😥 They are with Jesus now and forever . ❤️
Thank goodness i hope those boys get justice
Trevell West of had stated and his first and only interview and he stated that some of out the dirt the kids not to get in the dirt and I'm looking at the yard surrounding this house and there's just dirt all throughout you know I mean like how can you miss it and how can you expect for a child of three and four years old not to get dirty outside of the house while playing.
How old was each of the children in the custody or interested care of the West? I feel like the ages is of importance and do need to be being reported in it's Entirety along with all the persons that's involved in this story and any other story that's being told don't necessarily have to be the names of the children but ages of the children does matter. - Investigation
In another video, they reported that all of their kids' ages were from 10 years old and younger than 10, these toddler boys were the youngest, 3 and 4 years old.
But they can't disclose much because these 2 monsters allegedly involved those older children in the crime.
So the boys were never at that house?
Nope!
Never
Nope those boys were dead before they packed up and moved away from their apartment. What they did with them and who else was involved in the coverup is what I’m waiting to hear from the court when they are arranged in court.
Those poor babies! I knew those parents were responsible, they were just too calm when they spoke to News stations! Counties need to check on adopted children for a good year or more and if they move, the paperwork needs to follow them to their new state or county of residence!!
"They backed their white van up right against the door so no one could see what came in or out."
Oh, so they pulled a Chris Watts. Ok.
The moment the neighbors said they never saw them with the missing boys...WE ALL KNEW THEY WERE GUILTY
Good lord why in the hell welfare checks were not continued. CPS caseworkers are also responsible also need to have jail time as well
Its a sick world we live in.
I think it's disturbing how they killed these boys. They used other children to commit the crime. Despicable monsters.
Did they? I haven't heard that. What happened?
@@floridanuthouse There’s language in the charging document about inducing a minor to commit a crime and speculation is they involved one or more of the older kids. I don’t know how old the bio kids are but I’ve heard 12 and 15.
I'm not surprised. During their first news interview I knew they were lying about what happened to those babies
Why adopt the little children and then harm them it is truly shocking. Just inform the state if you can't cope don't hurt little innocent children like that.
Money.... the root of all evil
Those precious babies! I’m so sorry that you had to live in a life of misery! I know you’re in Gods arms! This absolutely breaks my heart!
Adopt a child and then murder them ? It must of been terrifying for the other children in the home
This is the saddest look how cute these babies are I'm dying. To have two beautiful babies like that. You could have gave them away to somebody that would love those beautiful babies. I really just want to go and scream at the top of my lungs. But that ain't going to bring them back. Luckily I don't know them they wouldn't have made it to jail and that's the damn truth word to my mama
No surprise, truly sad.
The dude was a neat freak …and did not allowed his kids to go outside and get dirty , why no one has pictures of their home on the inside ? It would speak for it self
I believe something must have happened to both boys by accident then they covered it up to protect themselves so they won't be perceived as being rotten parents and other kids taken away that mom possibly couldn't have not known they live in the same house rest boys we all are so sorry this happened to you may justice be served!
Yessssssssi knew it their story made no sense to me evil😈😈😈😈😈…..R.I.P Orin and Orsin 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Oh how awful. These poor babies. 🥺💞
The other kids had to say something. Idk..
I was thinking that!
God that’s a short time to look for children. I would be hyperventilating and crying looking for them. I’ve spent more time looking for a lost dog, that wasn’t even mine. These poor babies.
RIP sweet CLASSIC & CINCERE 🕊️🕊️🙏🏽🙏🏽❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
OMG! Such beautiful Angels! 🙏🙏🙏
There are millions of parents who would have given them a loving home, and yet they wind up with these evil psycho's
I have to disagree with you, people say this all the time but we have institutions and orphanages filled with children all over the world including the USA and no one is clamoring to take them in and give them loving homes. We have millions willing to take some children as long as they are getting paid to do so.
@@catdooley4616 Yes; and fostering or adopting kids who are not babies, may have developmental delays from poor prenatal care or drug use, are POC and trying to keep siblings together? Those kids are hard to place, and it gets worse as time passes and they get older.
All I can suggest is we work harder to make birth control accessible and maybe slow the cycle. There are too many children and not enough parents when you get rid of the bad ones.
Poor babies…rip💔
Why do evils adopt anyways? Let genuine caring people adopt them.
Or have children! Or animals! 🤬🤬🤬
I have witnessed people using it as income. It makes me sick to see people using children to gain a check.
Bc, honestly, few people actually adopt children. And the people who do foster and adopt are turning out to be predators. It's an extremely flawed system.
@@k.rebuilding and it used to be when you adopt that you stop receiving money for those children. That. Doesn’t seem to be the case anymore. I believe in some states they continue to get paid. Especially if the child is autistic.
@@queenofkings7453 I know adoptive parents get money in FL. Regardless of income. Even wealthy adoptive parents will get a check and state sponsored healthcare for each adopted child. Honestly, adoption has never been as altruistic as ppl fancy it to be. Parenting, in general, is a fairly selfish endeavor. It's vanity to need to recreate our own image. We need offspring to replace our workforce. Those aren't conversations ppl like to have.
I really wish people wouldn’t refer to the boys as Orrin and Orson West, it’s so disrespectful in light of what these evil people did. I always got the feeling that Trazelle had a dark side and Jaqueline just followed his lead, 🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️. RIP sweet babies 😢 😢😢
Makes me sad and sick to my stomach. These poor babies!
I would like to hear from neighbors at both places they lived whether their brown Pitbull looking dog named Chaulk (meaning terminal, ending) seemed friendly and whether or not the kids actually played with the dog.
Sorry to say but when I saw the first news interview
I knew they were responsible 🤬
I knew it..
Long overdue, the boys deserve justice.
Should’ve been arrested
This makes me sick! What is the matter with people, grateful that people like this is caught and put behind bars fo?.
Rest in peace Babies...💔
Someone needs to get the old, ruined, and icky stuffed animals out of there and into a receptacle. At this point it looks creepy 😐
Still hopeful and praying for these precious little angels to be found and have a proper burial. This way they can truly RIP ....
🙏 🙏 🕊 🕊 💙 💙
So why would a murdering couple actually adopt the children in the first place? This is bizarre and they deserve to be in jail and then prison for their lifetimes. Those poor little children😥😥
Pure evil , what did those little angels do to deserve that, absolutely nothing. So sorry little angels . Despicable evil humans doing this to helpless babys.