Getting The Most Out Of A Budget Snare Drum | Season Two, Episode 52
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- Опубліковано 20 вер 2024
- Do you have to spend a boatload of money on a snare just to get a professional sound? Absolutely not! For our final episode of the season we’re exploring some simple and affordable steps to getting the most out of a budget friendly snare drum.
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Signal chain:
Mics - Focusrite Clarett 8Pre USB & OctoPre - MacPro w/Pro Tools 12.8
Recorded at 48kHz / 24bit
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Full kit: AKG C414 (ear-distance)Snare drum & tom tom close mics: Shure SM57
Bass drum: AKG D112 (at mic port) + KAM R3 Ribbon microphone 8” away from reso
Hosted by: Cody Rahn
Production: Ben O'Brien Smith @ Cadence Independent Media
Presenting Sponsor: Promark by D’Addario
Production Partners: Focusrite, Evans Drumheads
Snare Drum:
Tama Metalworks Steel 13x4” with all OEM accessories
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Added Evans Drumheads G1 Coated batter
Added Puresound Custom Pro 20-strand Steel
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What was your first snare drum and how did you get it? Do you still have it today?
My first snare was a Tama 12 by 5" snare steel! Really good power/soprano/effect/aux snare!!
Pearl free floating brass Piccolo and still have it! Sound awesome!
An Acrolite passed down from my brother. Still my main snare after 30 years!
Mint condition 12” 60s steel Amati made in Czechoslovakia. Yes I do but I don’t play it.
Got my first kit in 1990. 5x14" Pearl Export steel snare. Still have it, just finished a refurbishment project on it like a week ago! Chrome was all pitted to hell.. Cleaned it up and painted it, replaced the throw off and butt plate.. just need to get some heads and snare wires for it now!
Im a full blown death metal drummer,but i hate the common tones and dynamics of the genre,and finding your channel had helped me tremendously with my approach to finding great sounds to implement in my playing. Thank you for the knowledge and advice!
this is the exact kind of video the world of drummers/techs/recording engineers need, thanks so much!
“Jangly nonsense” You guys really need to put these phrases on t shirts
Along with "endlessly fussing"
How bout a video on snare resos? Maybe a shootout between clear, hazy, and coated, and how different weight heads affect response and tone.
love the ring in that snare tone.
That TAMA is a great sounding starter drum!
First snare: got it in 1964 a Ludwig supra.Rented it for band lessons at school.If you wanted to purchase the drum the price was $100.00. When I found out I could buy a 3 piece Kent drum set with a Turkish type cymbal from Sears and robuck for the same money we took the snare back and got my silver sparkle beautiful Kent drum set.The snare was know prize but I had a set of drums with a stack of 45 records and that's how I learned to play.Those were the days,2 other kids on my block had drum kits as well.Over the years all 3 of us learned how to play and all got into bands.What a great way to grow up.!!!
I bought one of these to replace a poplar Tama Imperialstar and I love this little firecracker snare. Excited to see your treatment of it. Sounds amazing
I still have my first snare drum that I received in 1979. It’s a 1969 (I believe) Slingerland with a Niles badge and a ribbed aluminum shell. It came with a fiber case, snare stand and folding music stand. Sounds great! It’s the drum that established my fondness for metal shell snare drums.
My first snare was a Taye snare that matched the kit, it was an beginner level snare, didn't really know how to tune that well and never got a good sound out of it. When I ended up getting a pearl vision kit years after that came with a Sensitone, learned how to tune, and it actually got me through a LOT of gigging. For a snare that just comes with most beginner/intermediate kits, it actually was pretty good!
'76 Acrolite. Mom got it for me for school.
It's long gone (to another beginner, yay), but I got a showroom-new '70 with original heads for $130 last year.
Congratulations! And thank you for demonstrating, above all, professional musicianship. Lots of love to you guys. Respect.
You just nailed a very important topic, which is every drummer´s concern at a certain point of their lives.
This video made me subscribe. Super relatable and useful information. I have gone back and checked out previous videos and they are also VERY useful. Love the soothing delivery of the information as well.
I once had a $35 vintage made in Japan "Decca" 8 lug , Philippine mahogany 5x14 snare drum. I put a Remo fiberskyn ambassador on the batter side, and after I tuned it up, I used it for a recording session. After the recording was mixed, you'd swear it was a vintage slingerland or Gretsch. It was a thin 3 ply shell with re-rings. I later sold it to a a teen who was starting out. Just goes to show that some of those made in Japan vintage drums can sound great if the bearing edges are decent, and when they're fitted with brand new pro drum heads, they can sound really good.
Great video as always. 👍
So when do T-shirts with your likenesses holding a snare with “Happy Little Drum” come out?
Ha! Might have to be a Patreon exclusive for Season Three!
Cody: the main influence of the next generation for the nu metal snare sound.
Excellent season guys! Looking forward to season 3!
that snare looks good! insane quality on budget kits these days!
Man that clip at the end sounded great! Love what some knowledge and detail can get you!
Your student is lucky to have such an insightful teacher!! I'd love to see you do something with making a cheap drum set sound good- a video where you just tune the stock heads, a video where you add some dampening from household items (tape and other stuff for muffling), and a video where you swap out the heads completely and show how versatile an entry level kit can be with a good set of heads.
Another great Episode! The sound changed a lot after changing the heads (to me). GREAT!!
Happy New Snare Day, Rose! Really cool drum, it’s sounding great. And of course you’ve got the best teacher a new drummer could ask for... Keep up the good work!
My first snare drum was a b/o Acro, before they were hip. Cost about $100. and sounded really good. I don’t have it anymore, but I still consider it a great drum. It’s also a good fit for a new drummer because it’s easy to get it sounding good, which inspires confidence.
My first snare was a stock Pearl Forum drum. I couldn't make it sound right to save my life. I only learned how to look for tuning and sound a couple of years ago, after years of different tuning methods and schemes. Right now my go to is a Starphonic Aluminum with Evans hydraulic heads (thanks to your video!). A massive sound.
As always "GREAT STUFF, DUDES!" Surprised you didn't swap out the bottom head as well. Makes a huge difference. BTW, 13" snares are amazing drums that are actually hard to make sound bad. Something about that diameter of a 13" shell just works so well for snare drums.
I borrowed my very first drum from my teacher, it was a czechoslovakian Amati snare. I think it was 14x5 or 14x4.
And the first snare drum I've ever bought was a $80 Phil Pro. It used to have six lugs and a built-in dampfer, which (combined with a decent head) could make it sound appropriate for performing live, but I've never managed to tune it properly.
I love watching your videos even as a professional im never done learning. Has anyone told you that you look alot like Brian Ortega the ufc fighter...great drummer...great fighter
My first snare was an 80s Premier 1005 steel snare. Replaced the original (bended) 1.8 mm "clangy" hoops with some 2.3 mm, saved the original premier snare wires and replaced them with puresounds. All that and proper heads and it sounds killer. I also own a Starphonic brass, but I keep coming back to the Premier every other week. Both amazing, each in their own way.
Your Premier drum is 14x6,5? I was in the moob of buying one Steel Premier snare but i cant find material online about that specific snare model.
Im not sure of its worth the money. Its an affordable snare tho.
@@hugorezende199 it's a 14x5. They usually are very affordable snares. But you have to work on them depending on the type of sound you want. What kind of "material" are you looking for?
Sounds good 👍!!
Hey Cody, I loved your episode comparing die cast, Yamaha maple, and 2.3mm triple flange hoops. Will you ever do a comparison of the different types of triple flange hoops that are available from parts stores online? i.e. chrome 1.6mm, 2.3mm, 3.0mm, and (chrome over) brass 2.3mm hoops.
Keep jammin. The show is still going awesome after many, many episodes. Not an easy task. Well done, sir!
I always think that lamp on the right side of the screen in these videos is a big plank of flame maple that needs to become a guitar, lol.
I actually liked how it sounded even before you did anything to it lol it's not for every style obviously but that sound has it's place especially if the overtones ringing is controlled (which tbh just hearing this recording & not being in person, they didn't really sound that obnoxious)
i changed up my very old Mapex QR 14"*5" with the Ultimate Snare Batter Tape Hack (ep. 43) and puresound equalizer wires.
it really surprised me how nice it sounds now, I'm having lots of fun with it.
I own this snare drum. Its one of my go to drums. I love it
My fave snare is a budget Mapex Armory Dillinger maple 14 x 5.5 and I love it. You can feel that thing in your chest from 10ft away.
amazing, actually
Hi Guys!
Thank you soooooo much!!!
You're the best!
Cheers!
My first snare was a 1967 Ludwig Supra. Lost it to bankruptcy years ago, still pissed about it!
Ow that hurt to read lol
My first snare was a Tama Rockstar 14x5 steel 8 lug. I got it sounding pretty decent, sadly the entire kit was stolen from me. Saved my lunch money for 3 years from 6th-8th grade for that kit too.
If the implicit point of the video is how drummer should learn to get the most of what they have, that they should be ready to improvise in any situation and that the gear you own ultimately does not matter, then I totally agree 😊 Maybe it's a little far-fetched, but it's still good advice! 😂👍
I think the batter head made a big difference, at least to my ears! Great vid as always guys
First snare was a Maxwin in about 1976 , years later found a another Maxwin, almost the same for 10 bucks and it sounds good
My first snare was a 13×3 Pearl Piccolo, great sounding drum, and I still have it. 🤘
I had one of those. The black mat finish. Cool snare just not for me.
I think it sounds fantastic at 4:07 .... seriously.
A 5x14 Ludwig Accent steel snare. Now I own a Pearl Piccolo but I'm interested in this one! I like high pitch snares. Like for funk,gospel,ska-punk
It's Tama ....no wonder it sounds solid
For that pricerange i would dig deep in the used market! I got a Tama Starclassic Birch for just 100€ haha.
My first snaredrum was an early Stagecustom steel shell which came with my kit. I hadnt got the same tuningskills as now (also thanks to this channel) so it sounded not very pleasantly haha
i got my used birch starclassics for $800, but they came with an aax studio crash, an avedis thin crash cymbals, a paiste 404 ride, Iron Cobra double pedals, gibralter stands and a roc n soc throne
Cody, why the choice of thread over the plastic bands for the snare strand? I would've never thought of that.
When I think about vintage drum sounds, my mind automatically goes to that great Surfaries tune Wipeout. If I had a nickel..........
I bought an spl snare on sale for $59 from Musicians Friend. The throw off is crap,but I put on an ambassador head with PureSound 24 strand brass wires on the stock bottom head. It sounds nearly as good as my acrolite!
You bought this exact snare? The same size? Im willing to buy this metal work but 14x6,5. Unfortunatly the latest metawork model had a superior construction.
solely when it came to changing the batter head, I actually preferred the higher David Garibaldi sound (it actually surprised me how similar it sounded to his snare) to the ringy-er, lower pitched tuning. That said, I'm not normally a snare-higher-than-the-clouds kinda guy, and I tune mine pretty medium with a bit of muffling.
with every adjustment it sounded more like... oh it sounds like a drum. NOW I GET IT.
going along with this, i'd love to see a "cheap" snare, optimizing from top to bottom. finding the heads it wants. finding the tuning it likes. really getting the ABSOLUTE most out of a budget drum, rather than "making a budget drum downright usable".
After all the mods, that’s a perfect sound for Jungle and DnB.
Hello, thanks for the review, as it is quite complete.
I wanted to ask, does anyone know the weight of this snare drum in Kg?
I just want to use it on the street but I don't know if it is too heavy to carry. Something like marching but light in weight
Thanks in advance
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Hola, gracias por la revisión, ya que es bastante completa.
Quería preguntar, ¿alguien sabe el peso que tiene en Kg esta caja?
Es que quiero usarla en la calle pero no sé si es muy pesada para llevar. Algo parecido marching pero ligero de peso
Gracias de antemano
My 1st snare was red-sparkled & the name was Star, heard it was a Tama made drum, wish I still did have it. Was those made by Tama Cody, thanks
"Caustic Overtones" great band name.
Incredible video
Not sure if I've mentioned this but you look like Brian Ortega from the UFC
Im willing to uy this but the 14x6,5 model? Any sugestions about it? Its a very affordable price for a Tama snare that seems to doo the job for a steel snare.Throwoff is a cheap one but dont bother me that muchh.
Are you using AIR mode on your focusrite? My guess is no, but I'd be curious to know. I'm also assuming you're using the clarett...
Hi guys. Thanks for the great content. I was wondering if it is possible and practical to punch holes in heads such as Evans do with their Dry range? I love the "pop" the the HD Dry (double ply) gives me but often wish the head was a little more sensitive. I have fitted a Genera Dry but feel this wont last as long. I feel the G12 with holes in would be perfect bu5 alas this is not made by Evans . Have you ever experimented with making your own holes?
I have my main snare which is yamaha sensitive maple 14x6.5 and some others that I don't really use. After some pandemic nostalgia now I want to do 90s 00s nu-metal playalongs just for fun and I found this used and cheap. Would this work for that situation? Maples are too mellow and don't really fit
Try a little remo O ring it will sounds best🥁🥁🥁👏👏👏👏🇨🇦🇨🇦
We used an Evans E-ring in some of the extra demos available on our Patreon.
Why did you guys start using a snare mic?
We’ve used one all throughout Season Two and a portion of Season One once we started to incorporate other drums into the episodes. It’s still mixed in carefully to provide a natural representation of the acoustic sound.
"WHAT'S WITHIN" :)
"What's within matters"
If I donate at the Acrolite level, do I get an Acrolite snare?
😁 To be clear- Patreon isn’t a donation-based platform. You’re paying to support the creation of new content and gain access to a variety of exclusives. Maybe we’ll do a giveaway with a certain level in the future...
What do die cast hoop do on a tom?
I find they dry out the overtones somewhat and make the drum punchier overall - I’m super into them for toms in general but more of a triple flange guy for snares 👍🏻 -Cody
Sounds Like A Drum yeah I’ve been noticing all the toms i like have these hoops.
I was ready to go use these tips on my snare, before I remembered that it's completely broken.
Oh no! Can you fix it?
@@SoundsLikeADrum I've tried. The issue is that the snare wires have gone completely slack, and nothing I've done has helped. All the screws are tightened, the latch is as tight as it can go, and still nothing. I'm honestly considering buying a new snare, because that one has been constantly breaking on me for months.
The Mapex Mpx Steel has a better sound and hardware
Glad to hear it!
Nothing I hate more than jangly nonsense.