Still wouldn't be top tier because he'd still have a pretty bad disadvantage from small jumps and being floaty. They really should've buffed him before ending updates
@@dogyX3 Buffing his air speed would make him broken because it'd make his advantage, disadvantage, neutral, and combos better. They would probably need to nerf him in other ways to compensate for the effect that increasing his air speed would do, especially since he has several jumps. Kirby already has solid ground speed and some of the best tilts in the game, so he acts more as a grounded fighter. Ultimate has avoided changing movement stats because of how much a small change can fundamentally change how a character plays.
@@ikaros110 nah its a very bad matchup for fgcs. kirby can honestly outbox you and you cannot hit him like at all because hes so tiny. not to even mention how good his edgeguarding is
Ive been sayin it from the beginning highkey kirby has potential i think he can make it to a solid C-LOW B if the work is put in him he has amazing combos with consistent % racking up while having solid matchups against some top tiers that other characters in his tier are unplayable against Disadvantage is also not as bad as you would think and it rly shows with said kirby main in video constantly finding their way back in even against swordies
That is exactly what Sakurai did for 3 games straight after he was top tier in Smash 64. He’s especially famous in Melee for how unplayable he is in a competitive setting.
Kirby apparently goes even with all FGC characters, joker, palutena and roy? (these last one seem weird but fgc characters have a tough time with small characters)
kirby has weird match ups because of his crotch/ down tilt making him so small, some charcaters even at top tier just arent equipped to deal with it well
Those Dair Rides at the start of the video were clean. It's not the easiest timing or spacing, esp with tournament and MKLeo pressure, although Byleth is one of the characters recommended to use as a training dummy when you're first learning the timing of that combo so that helps :)
6:52 🤣🤣🤣 Reminds me of the time spargo survived a fair from leo's byleth by shifting his hurtbox with side b, pixels away from losing but ended up taking the set. If im not mistaken, it was the first time in 3 years leo did not make grand finals
Cloud vs Kirby is actually HORRENDOUS for Kirby, even with how skilled Guilheww is I’m surprised he took any games off Spargos Cloud. 6:03 as a former Kirby main, truest thing I’ve ever heard.
Does anyone know if Sparg0 and Leo just gentlemen-ed to play secondaries? Or was Leo playing Byleth and Sparg0 genuinely preferred Roy over Cloud in that matchup?
Correct me if im wrong but it feels like leo lost that game five just being above kirby so much. Not even with jugles but he kept jupming agressivly while kirby was grounded and it seemed like he just needed to play completely grounded until kirby was already above him
kirby has a great advantage stage if he can get the ball rolling, but hes slow as fuck so winning neutral is hard and his disadvantage is fucking awful
I found it funny when someone made the comment that it looks like they play like they hate each other when, gathered from interviews, Leo loves playing against Sparg0, but Sparg0 hates playing Leo. Leo feels like he just plays amazing against Sparg0, Sparg0 doesn't like playing Leo because basically no matter what he does, the crowd is always on Leo's side and he's scared of getting clipped.
This Kirby remind me a Kirby player from WiFi in 2020 from Japan, who just destroy two best player players at the time. The first dominance for Kirby was Ron, his playstyle was passive and mixups with grab and quick call offs. Although he was a doc/Luigi main. The two top players back then was Shuton and Zackery’s Palutania. I forgot which super local was, but it did happened in 2020.
Both characters kinda have to interact.. And Kirby wins those. He's like Mac and Incineroar. They're all bad because you just camp them. But if you don't have good camping tools, they're whooping dat ass.
Haircut jumpscare
Our boy’s getting drafted
Seeing Marss with a short cut and a clean face makes it feel like we're back to a Panda-era video
Hes so much rounder!!
Any shorter and he’d be ESAM
I was not expecting the haircut and shave after so long lol
Looking at the combos this guy was getting makes me shudder at the thought of what Kirby without bottom tier movement/air drift could do to people
We Kirby mains rise
Still wouldn't be top tier because he'd still have a pretty bad disadvantage from small jumps and being floaty. They really should've buffed him before ending updates
@@dogyX3They did, a lot
@@ItsMeChair1 sorry, I meant air speed, they should've buffed his airspeed
@@dogyX3 Buffing his air speed would make him broken because it'd make his advantage, disadvantage, neutral, and combos better. They would probably need to nerf him in other ways to compensate for the effect that increasing his air speed would do, especially since he has several jumps. Kirby already has solid ground speed and some of the best tilts in the game, so he acts more as a grounded fighter. Ultimate has avoided changing movement stats because of how much a small change can fundamentally change how a character plays.
Kirby!?? Beating top players!?? Now this I gotta see
1:03 Oh that's the "I did my homework" dash attack
Warlocks Secret Village is a sick ass name. Also, it explains the Kirby success, some CRAZY dark arts going on in that venue
JV3 on game 5 Leo as Kirby is cracked
This Kirby guy beat Asimo and AndresFn at the same tournament 💀 look it up, Smash Factor 2024
kirby completely fucks up the fgcs
I play Terry and I get destroyed by Kirby lol
probably a skill issue, but it's crazy nonetheless 😂
@@ikaros110 nah its a very bad matchup for fgcs. kirby can honestly outbox you and you cannot hit him like at all because hes so tiny. not to even mention how good his edgeguarding is
This Kirby guy did not beat Asimo and AndresFN, he destroyed them entirely….
Kirby happens to Hard counter ryu and ken, I forgot why but I heard that from Jajajajaja (a Kirby main)
a good kirby player is a scary kirby player
Ive been sayin it from the beginning highkey kirby has potential i think he can make it to a solid C-LOW B if the work is put in him he has amazing combos with consistent % racking up while having solid matchups against some top tiers that other characters in his tier are unplayable against
Disadvantage is also not as bad as you would think and it rly shows with said kirby main in video constantly finding their way back in even against swordies
Lol there's fr a believer for every char
big band jazz kinda bangs with this game
I need to know the names of those songs
15:46 you know damn well what he was cooking…he was looking for the up b spike of course!
A Kirby main should be feared. We are legion. We are many.
I dont think Sakurai would put his baby boy in the game without him having the potential to hold his own.
I mean...he did in melee
That is exactly what Sakurai did for 3 games straight after he was top tier in Smash 64. He’s especially famous in Melee for how unplayable he is in a competitive setting.
@@wailmoregd140 brawl aint too bad tho
Kirby apparently goes even with all FGC characters, joker, palutena and roy? (these last one seem weird but fgc characters have a tough time with small characters)
Palu and Joker really struggle hitting Kirby due to how small he is and Roy is super easy to combo thanks to him being a faster faller
All of those are even/+0.5 for Kirby, except Roy i believe
kirby has weird match ups because of his crotch/ down tilt making him so small, some charcaters even at top tier just arent equipped to deal with it well
Pancake, d tilt
Some characters can't really deal with it. Too smol
Kirby has free edgeguarding and inhale gimping vs roy, and his combos drag across the stage so its pretty easy to win on 1 or 2 interactions
Kirby is underrated as hell, I won't say he's good, but he is underrated
bruv.. half of the cast is underrated
@@eddio9466 not enough top level players to represent all the worthwhile characters (it's most of the cast)
Good enough for mid tier.
Those Dair Rides at the start of the video were clean. It's not the easiest timing or spacing, esp with tournament and MKLeo pressure, although Byleth is one of the characters recommended to use as a training dummy when you're first learning the timing of that combo so that helps :)
Didnt expect the g-eazy reference lolol "it aint safe"
Goodbye Marss beard... see you in a few weeks.
6:52 🤣🤣🤣 Reminds me of the time spargo survived a fair from leo's byleth by shifting his hurtbox with side b, pixels away from losing but ended up taking the set. If im not mistaken, it was the first time in 3 years leo did not make grand finals
Mexican scene is the most aggressive. There is no useless neutral interactions…
Guil is an insane player playing a character with crazy hidden potential, it was honestly a long time coming before this happened again.
He’s playing the players really well
Love the background music , W editor
I feel like Kirby is really bad in matchups with disjoints, but that guy is built all cattywompus.
And zoners too which is why I main wolf and diddy kong
What were those big band Latin charts that were playing in the background? They were sick
That Cammy remix goes hahd
Bro keep the clean cut. Sarcasm went up 1000%. 🔥 shit
12:23 What's with the Cowboy Bebop remix there?
Lore accurate Kirby
Where was this streamed? I wanna see that grand final uncut!
Marss and Sonix are haircut bros
Kirby has the original 0 to death
Cloud vs Kirby is actually HORRENDOUS for Kirby, even with how skilled Guilheww is I’m surprised he took any games off Spargos Cloud. 6:03 as a former Kirby main, truest thing I’ve ever heard.
-1. It's very doable.
@ every matchup is doable if you’re good enough, I’d still say it’s -2 since cloud beats kirby in nearly every aspect.
Haircut looks great marss
KIRBY RISE UP
Does anyone know if Sparg0 and Leo just gentlemen-ed to play secondaries? Or was Leo playing Byleth and Sparg0 genuinely preferred Roy over Cloud in that matchup?
Yeah, they were cool doing that. And also, it was just a local
@@ricardoantonio4919 it was a C tier, locals are pretty much never ranked
I Was there and played against Leo, he told me his Byleth is comming back! And I think Sparg0 just chose to use Roy.
Marss is edging the buzz haircut bruh
Bro has the emmet from Lego movie cut 😭
9:13 Joker, maybe Peach
Make a video how a banjo and kazooie beat mkleo & spargo.
Got distracted with Tallon IV in the background
Song at the start of the video?
I feel like I used to see Guilheww a lot, but never knew how to spell their name.
I don't think they always played Kirby, but I don't remember.
diabolical cut
song at the beginning?
W background in the intro. Prime is the best
What’s up? Long time no see
song names?
reation time and the min maxing
these can't be real. it's kirby. something has been overlooked?
bros fresh
Correct me if im wrong but it feels like leo lost that game five just being above kirby so much. Not even with jugles but he kept jupming agressivly while kirby was grounded and it seemed like he just needed to play completely grounded until kirby was already above him
Anyone know the 1st song?
Bro cut his own hair
rip beard and fluffy hair 😢 he looks cuter with them
I want the beard back
Where the f do you find these videos??? Can't find this shit anywhere
kirby has a great advantage stage if he can get the ball rolling, but hes slow as fuck so winning neutral is hard and his disadvantage is fucking awful
guilheww my goat
👇🏻 marss has a dumper button
Chat why is this guy such a cutie 🥰
Hello tweek
What happened to Panda UA-cam
I found it funny when someone made the comment that it looks like they play like they hate each other when, gathered from interviews, Leo loves playing against Sparg0, but Sparg0 hates playing Leo. Leo feels like he just plays amazing against Sparg0, Sparg0 doesn't like playing Leo because basically no matter what he does, the crowd is always on Leo's side and he's scared of getting clipped.
Kirby vs ryu ken or terry is not fun lol
How is spargo playing roy better than kola? Kola got COOKED when he versed leo's byleth, and spargo actually WON? That doesnt sound right
Day 51 of asking marss to cosplay zss
"I wanna see RisterMice"
"We have RisterMice at home"
RisterMice at home ^
This Kirby remind me a Kirby player from WiFi in 2020 from Japan, who just destroy two best player players at the time. The first dominance for Kirby was Ron, his playstyle was passive and mixups with grab and quick call offs. Although he was a doc/Luigi main.
The two top players back then was Shuton and Zackery’s Palutania.
I forgot which super local was, but it did happened in 2020.
Sparg0 carries Cloud
9:14 apparently Palutena
Nah you just have to camp him
Guilheww's ass is not crouching. get low i helps so much in this mu
Both characters kinda have to interact.. And Kirby wins those.
He's like Mac and Incineroar. They're all bad because you just camp them. But if you don't have good camping tools, they're whooping dat ass.
Why do you keep calling fthrow fair
Mkleo the type of guy to lose to a kirby
and then win the runback. And then win the whole tournament lol
Nothing wrong with that. The Kirby is good.
Leo got washed in 2024 wtf lmao
then won the tournament
@MrZenobi yea lol
Tier lists are just a prison for mediocre players 👹
Am I the only that thinks sparg0’s cloud isn’t even that good compared to his Aegis?
Unless you meant the opposite of what you said, then yes, you are.
Some.of us agree, he's an elite smasher at heart. Lots of mash
Why do you look forty in some videos but 16 in others
Kirby has the original 0 to death