I'm thinking that these visits from Mr. Mills with Cardi K should come under the heading of "The James Gang Sessions." I'll consider this Part II of same. Great show and excellent questions from the members as well as the host. My thanks to James B. Mills for his support of the channel and the Coalition by making the time for this. Always a pleasure to hear his take on things. I've just received a copy of his book today ("what took me so long?") and will be reading it soon, and looking forward to seeing his next one. Printed on paper, with a cover.
James has done an awesome job putting TE in front of younger, modern audiences and entertaining them with historical nuggets, instead of boring them with text heavy b/w blah.
Good stuff, guys. Important, too. These magazines need to adapt if they don't want to go the way of the telegraph. On a personal note, I dropped James' 10-pound book on my foot and I consider his cat a warrior for karmic justice.
🤣Mr. Poopie Eye auto-corrected your Chicano Spanish.🤣That was awesome. Great interview, can't wait to buy the book. I like this guy. I hardly ever meet fellow contrary, camera-shy, potty-mouthed atheists and I truly love it. He used one of my favorite expressions too, "Adapt or die." It's funny how many of us found Billy and other Old West history from Young Guns, and yet are in constant search of his truth. Mr. Estevez inspired so many young lives to completely change direction in a positive way. Honestly I think my early obsession with BtK was when I started thinking for myself, and finding out that it was okay to go my own way. It changed my entire trajectory. I honestly think I'm still alive due to Billy's accidental influence.
@@chasingbilly My Midwestern accent just won't shake loose for good Spanish pronunciation.. What makes things harder is that in Florida there are dozens of different versions of Spanish. They all sound completely different.
Hi guys from "Downunder", on the anniversary of the killing of Sheriff Brady. I am a huge Billy the Kid fan and I have over 40 books about him including Fulton, Nolan Mills, Sederwall, and others both good and not so good. After reading these books and seeing some great research and accuracy compared compiled to some of the early books that were written. As for Australians and American Wild west interests. I personally have had an interest in the "Wild West since I was a boy. A small population here have an interest particularly from the Rural areas here. We have had our own wild west to a degree with our Australian Bushrangers, who were known for robbing banks stagecoaches etc. Our most famous, being Ned Kelly who was hanged in November 1880, for killing three Lawmen who the late Robert M Utley wrote a comparison book about him and Billy the kid after he visited Victoria, Australia and went to the historic areas. Ned was a few years older than "Billy the Kid" being 25 years old when he was Hanged but like Billy, was of Irish Descent that was persecuted by a corrupt group. not unlike the "Santa Fe Ring". Yes, We Australians swear allot but we also call things out as we see it and are very straight shooters. We don't put up with Bull*(*#$ and will call it as we see it. Keep up the great work "dudes" The Coalition is a great organisation.
Great interview!! Both guys !! Jesse james was a bank robber a train robber kiling roughly 20 people in those pursuits , yet he had redeeming qualities he was a husband ,a father of 2 would have been four but montgomery and gould twins died in infancy but jesse jr and mary survived .he attended sunday services with his family whenever he was home ,jesses gang ran for 16 years from 1866 until 1882 with many many members robbing over 200,000 thousand ,,starting with the youngers ,he was never arrested or charged with a crime he was never convicted of a crime neither ,one story has it frank and jesse came upon a homestead and asked the woman for a meal, the woman was crying saying the banker was coming to take the ranch , jesse asked how much the mortgage was she said 790 dollars which she didnt have , jesse gave her the 790 they had thier meal and left , the banker came was shocked the old woman had the 790 he gave her a receipt , on his way back to the bank he was held up by 2 masked men , reedeeming qualities ?there are many , but j frank dalton was a phony he wasnt missing any fingers jesse was missing tip of his middle finger on left hand , jesses daughter went to see j frank dalton brought a pair of jesse boots , she asked him “ who am i “ dalton just shrugged , she left saying he was a phony
Question for the Cardigan Kid or anyone...In Mills book, BTK: El Bandido Simpatico, James Mills states that Charlie Bowdre married Manuela Herrera when she was 12 years old. I didn't find a contemporary source for that in the book, or perhaps I missed it..What is the source for Charlie Bowdre marrying Manuela Herrera when she was 12 years old ?....thanks in advance.
Eddie Lanham and company have done some really good research recently putting forth the possibility that Bowdre did not marry Manuela Herrera but rather a woman named Manuela Gonzales. I look forward to reading their findings. Thanks! - Cardi K
Census records reveal Manuela's approximate age at the time of their wedding. Keep in mind, grown men marrying 12 year old girls, while appalling to us today, was not out of step in frontier times.
@shyjames83 Manuela Herrera was 14 years old in 1880. Charlie Bowdre's wife Manuela was 25 years old in 1880(according to the 1880 census).Charlie Bowdre was never married to Manuela Herrera....The woman in the blood stained photo with Charlie Bowdre was Manuela Gonzales, not Manuela Herrera. ua-cam.com/video/G5FCVvmYb_s/v-deo.htmlsi=vySciSGgxl9JGPDy
I found some disrespect from Paulita as well - she boasted of the night she made a bet with friends that she could go to Billy's grave and retrieve something to prove she was there - I believe she retrieved the cross? Just speaking from my own point of view, I would not have behaved that way for one of my loved ones. It seems disrespectful. On the other hand, maybe she knew he was buried somewhere else...or, she thought Billy would enjoy the prank, or Billy was more interested in her than she was in him. We can't know but on the face of it, it sounds like a cavalier attitude toward his death.
I'm thinking that these visits from Mr. Mills with Cardi K should come under the heading of "The James Gang Sessions." I'll consider this Part II of same. Great show and excellent questions from the members as well as the host. My thanks to James B. Mills for his support of the channel and the Coalition by making the time for this. Always a pleasure to hear his take on things. I've just received a copy of his book today ("what took me so long?") and will be reading it soon, and looking forward to seeing his next one. Printed on paper, with a cover.
Thanks, James and James. Looking forward to the Chavez Chavez Patron Salazar book.
Amazing interview with a great author
fascinating show thank you and I will be buying Mr Mills book and his future books.
James has done an awesome job putting TE in front of younger, modern audiences and entertaining them with historical nuggets, instead of boring them with text heavy b/w blah.
Ta.
Good stuff, guys. Important, too. These magazines need to adapt if they don't want to go the way of the telegraph.
On a personal note, I dropped James' 10-pound book on my foot and I consider his cat a warrior for karmic justice.
Great interview!
🌹Rest in Peace Billie🌹
just wanna talk about great grand ....oldest descend
🤣Mr. Poopie Eye auto-corrected your Chicano Spanish.🤣That was awesome.
Great interview, can't wait to buy the book. I like this guy. I hardly ever meet fellow contrary, camera-shy, potty-mouthed atheists and I truly love it. He used one of my favorite expressions too, "Adapt or die."
It's funny how many of us found Billy and other Old West history from Young Guns, and yet are in constant search of his truth. Mr. Estevez inspired so many young lives to completely change direction in a positive way. Honestly I think my early obsession with BtK was when I started thinking for myself, and finding out that it was okay to go my own way. It changed my entire trajectory. I honestly think I'm still alive due to Billy's accidental influence.
I make no apologies about my Spanish lol. Regardless of what Mr. Godless Poopie Eye says. 😆
@@chasingbilly My Midwestern accent just won't shake loose for good Spanish pronunciation.. What makes things harder is that in Florida there are dozens of different versions of Spanish. They all sound completely different.
@@CleoHarperReturns yup. Mine is Appalachian Spanish lol
@@chasingbilly 😆
@chasingbilly I've been called a lot of things... but never that...
Thank you guys. Really enjoyable episode!
F#ckin awesome interview, muy bien amigo! 🤟🤠
Like I said before, Aussie boganism mixed with Billy is a great combination
Please don't insult me by suggesting I'm a bogan, lol. I hate bogans! 😅
Learned a new word today, thanks for that!
Hi guys from "Downunder", on the anniversary of the killing of Sheriff Brady. I am a huge Billy the Kid fan and I have over 40 books about him including Fulton, Nolan Mills, Sederwall, and others both good and not so good. After reading these books and seeing some great research and accuracy compared compiled to some of the early books that were written.
As for Australians and American Wild west interests. I personally have had an interest in the "Wild West since I was a boy. A small population here have an interest particularly from the Rural areas here. We have had our own wild west to a degree with our Australian Bushrangers, who were known for robbing banks stagecoaches etc. Our most famous, being Ned Kelly who was hanged in November 1880, for killing three Lawmen who the late Robert M Utley wrote a comparison book about him and Billy the kid after he visited Victoria, Australia and went to the historic areas. Ned was a few years older than "Billy the Kid" being 25 years old when he was Hanged but like Billy, was of Irish Descent that was persecuted by a corrupt group. not unlike the "Santa Fe Ring".
Yes, We Australians swear allot but we also call things out as we see it and are very straight shooters. We don't put up with Bull*(*#$ and will call it as we see it.
Keep up the great work "dudes" The Coalition is a great organisation.
Thanks for this info! Also learned about Ned Kelly through Billy's Australian fans. I was the one asking, so I am grateful for your answer too!
Great interview!! Both guys !! Jesse james was a bank robber a train robber kiling roughly 20 people in those pursuits , yet he had redeeming qualities he was a husband ,a father of 2 would have been four but montgomery and gould twins died in infancy but jesse jr and mary survived .he attended sunday services with his family whenever he was home ,jesses gang ran for 16 years from 1866 until 1882 with many many members robbing over 200,000 thousand ,,starting with the youngers ,he was never arrested or charged with a crime he was never convicted of a crime neither ,one story has it frank and jesse came upon a homestead and asked the woman for a meal, the woman was crying saying the banker was coming to take the ranch , jesse asked how much the mortgage was she said 790 dollars which she didnt have , jesse gave her the 790 they had thier meal and left , the banker came was shocked the old woman had the 790 he gave her a receipt , on his way back to the bank he was held up by 2 masked men , reedeeming qualities ?there are many , but j frank dalton was a phony he wasnt missing any fingers jesse was missing tip of his middle finger on left hand , jesses daughter went to see j frank dalton brought a pair of jesse boots , she asked him “ who am i “ dalton just shrugged , she left saying he was a phony
The problem I have with James is he's put up as some kind of Robin Hood figure, there's zero evidence he shared his loot with anybody outside his gang
@@Yup71719 no robin hood no way just a thief crook killer
Question for the Cardigan Kid or anyone...In Mills book, BTK: El Bandido Simpatico, James Mills states that Charlie Bowdre married Manuela Herrera when she was 12 years old. I didn't find a contemporary source for that in the book, or perhaps I missed it..What is the source for Charlie Bowdre marrying Manuela Herrera when she was 12 years old ?....thanks in advance.
Eddie Lanham and company have done some really good research recently putting forth the possibility that Bowdre did not marry Manuela Herrera but rather a woman named Manuela Gonzales. I look forward to reading their findings. Thanks! - Cardi K
Census records reveal Manuela's approximate age at the time of their wedding. Keep in mind, grown men marrying 12 year old girls, while appalling to us today, was not out of step in frontier times.
@shyjames83 Manuela Herrera was 14 years old in 1880. Charlie Bowdre's wife Manuela was 25 years old in 1880(according to the 1880 census).Charlie Bowdre was never married to Manuela Herrera....The woman in the blood stained photo with Charlie Bowdre was Manuela Gonzales, not Manuela Herrera. ua-cam.com/video/G5FCVvmYb_s/v-deo.htmlsi=vySciSGgxl9JGPDy
I found some disrespect from Paulita as well - she boasted of the night she made a bet with friends that she could go to Billy's grave and retrieve something to prove she was there - I believe she retrieved the cross? Just speaking from my own point of view, I would not have behaved that way for one of my loved ones. It seems disrespectful. On the other hand, maybe she knew he was buried somewhere else...or, she thought Billy would enjoy the prank, or Billy was more interested in her than she was in him. We can't know but on the face of it, it sounds like a cavalier attitude toward his death.
I felt the same way when I read the account. Definitely seemed disrespectful.
@14:44 uh oh. Had to go there…
Someone had to....
Seen William Tunstills 4-Hour interview with Ola Eberhard!! She was related and around Jesse and Billy. Brushy was Billy.
That's adorable.
No to Brushy .....
Brushy bill was billy!!!!