This would have been the time to add a medium sized quadriped race with the Bariaur. Not making large creatures like centaurs and minotaurs medium. Also figures they wouldnt add rogue modrons. With wizards only counting 5e history and not anything before i wouldnt be surpriswd if they ppretend like the great modron march never happened.
Super happy we are not putting a bunch of player options inside a DM's book. We need to keep it this way! The players can get a player facing pamphlet or something. This is my book, stop looking at the stuff in the back of my book!
They're not, Morte's book is the monster collection, but they do appear to be the animal-headed celestials that had their origin in the ardlings. @@tracyburnham604
I'm a newer DM. I've only ever played 5e. I have a homebrew campaign that is set in the forgotten realms. In my homebrew campaign, my players are going to have to travel to different planes to collect artifacts and defeat monsters in other realms such as the hells, pandemonium, elysium, etc. My question is can I incorporate planescape books into my homebrew campaign? My players are currently level 12 and will soon be wanting to start planar travel.
Easily. Planescape can be incorporated into most campaigns. Sigil, the centrepiece of the setting, has portals to pretty much everywhere, but they aren't necessarily known, and requires a key to work, which can be anything, like a speck of dust, or a hair from an imp familiar of a wizard named Tim. So you as the DM can control access to Sigil as much as you want.
A huge amount of Planescape (the vast majority) was always flavor and narrative in nature, and it's not like my 2e content has all spontaneously combusted or anything. As a die-hard fan of Planescape, my greatest hope for this this box set would provide a solid adventure in Planescape (which is sounds like it does) and that it's got enough mechanics and flavor written in that it will help me smooth the process of fitting my old content in to a modern play context. In your estimation, do you think this boxed set accomplishes that goal?
Decent review. Small note the splitting feat part is slightly off. Thier is a base feat ( Scion of the outer planes ) and all the others are prerequisites to that feat.
Planescape 2e was a BIG DEAL. It introduced races, settings, and 'effects' which brought nuance to the rather bland preexisting 'swords and sorcery' settings before and were so popular that the very best of the setting has been incorporated into 5e already. But, as a person buying a new setting, what is most important: the SETTING or 'player options'? (I am not burying the lede here) I drown in all the 'player options' available already. Adding another 30, as a DM, means more stuff to keep track of. But I feel some sympathy for the incorrect creators: In 2e, the factions were sharp and spikey. The Athar, for example, were a bunch of anti-religious malcontents, spitting in the eye of gods and priests they KNOW exist! And in their philosophical belief, they were immune to most of the cleric spell list. BUT no priest would heal an Athar with a sword to their throat. Got the guts to play THAT 'player option'? Best find a ring of regeneration, stat! The current 'planar philosopher' Athar...what? Sneaks around? Swaps grape juice for holy wine? Gets the 'religion' (YAWN) skill? I can see why they are not enthused with the 'player options'. The 96 pages in an adventure seems a poor use of page instead of more lore. BUT there is a solution: Supplement your factions and your settings with the 2e stuff, still available online for modest costs.
Sounds like the campaign borrows parts form plainscape torment I can only hope that it doesn’t take too much and only try to make the pcs a new version of the nameless one I’d be really disappointed as they should come up with something more original
This set has around the same page count as the 2e Planescape campaign setting box set. I think people either don't know that or don't realise the meat of 2e Planescape came from multiple box sets, books and adventures. Thank god The Cant hasn't returned - nothing has aged quite as badly as the mock cockney slang. Got it Berk?
I was super disappointed with the 5e spelljammer set. don't have a lot of hope for this one going into the review. There have been good campaign books in 5e, the Eberron book springs to mind, but they've been the exception.
Planar Wanderer is a awful waste of feat, no one give a single buck to revise the feat with One DnD Language, without the +1ASI on the feat it turns in a complete prohibitive choice if you doesn't want to stay behind from the entire party for the rest of the game, that is very sad because the feat is cool but impossible to pick
I’ll be passing on this product. It’s too far away from 2E Placescape for my taste and the adventure sounds like the writers watch too much Disney Marvel and Loki.
This would have been the time to add a medium sized quadriped race with the Bariaur. Not making large creatures like centaurs and minotaurs medium. Also figures they wouldnt add rogue modrons. With wizards only counting 5e history and not anything before i wouldnt be surpriswd if they ppretend like the great modron march never happened.
Agreed!
Super happy we are not putting a bunch of player options inside a DM's book. We need to keep it this way! The players can get a player facing pamphlet or something. This is my book, stop looking at the stuff in the back of my book!
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I’m surprised they didn’t put Ardlings in the book
It is odd.
I think the Guardinals in Morte's Planar Parade are what they ended up becoming.
I’m not sure Guardinals are playable in the new set.
They're not, Morte's book is the monster collection, but they do appear to be the animal-headed celestials that had their origin in the ardlings. @@tracyburnham604
I'm a newer DM. I've only ever played 5e. I have a homebrew campaign that is set in the forgotten realms. In my homebrew campaign, my players are going to have to travel to different planes to collect artifacts and defeat monsters in other realms such as the hells, pandemonium, elysium, etc.
My question is can I incorporate planescape books into my homebrew campaign? My players are currently level 12 and will soon be wanting to start planar travel.
Easily. Planescape can be incorporated into most campaigns.
Sigil, the centrepiece of the setting, has portals to pretty much everywhere, but they aren't necessarily known, and requires a key to work, which can be anything, like a speck of dust, or a hair from an imp familiar of a wizard named Tim. So you as the DM can control access to Sigil as much as you want.
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A huge amount of Planescape (the vast majority) was always flavor and narrative in nature, and it's not like my 2e content has all spontaneously combusted or anything. As a die-hard fan of Planescape, my greatest hope for this this box set would provide a solid adventure in Planescape (which is sounds like it does) and that it's got enough mechanics and flavor written in that it will help me smooth the process of fitting my old content in to a modern play context.
In your estimation, do you think this boxed set accomplishes that goal?
Sad that they have moved away from the art style of 2nd edition planescape
This art was literally made by the same guy…
@cassmi8783 diterlizzi? I suppose it's only natural his art style would evolve over 20 years but I didn't even recognise it!
Looks awesome!
It is!
Decent review.
Small note the splitting feat part is slightly off.
Thier is a base feat ( Scion of the outer planes ) and all the others are prerequisites to that feat.
Planescape 2e was a BIG DEAL. It introduced races, settings, and 'effects' which brought nuance to the rather bland preexisting 'swords and sorcery' settings before and were so popular that the very best of the setting has been incorporated into 5e already. But, as a person buying a new setting, what is most important: the SETTING or 'player options'? (I am not burying the lede here)
I drown in all the 'player options' available already. Adding another 30, as a DM, means more stuff to keep track of.
But I feel some sympathy for the incorrect creators: In 2e, the factions were sharp and spikey. The Athar, for example, were a bunch of anti-religious malcontents, spitting in the eye of gods and priests they KNOW exist! And in their philosophical belief, they were immune to most of the cleric spell list.
BUT no priest would heal an Athar with a sword to their throat.
Got the guts to play THAT 'player option'? Best find a ring of regeneration, stat!
The current 'planar philosopher' Athar...what? Sneaks around? Swaps grape juice for holy wine? Gets the 'religion' (YAWN) skill? I can see why they are not enthused with the 'player options'.
The 96 pages in an adventure seems a poor use of page instead of more lore.
BUT there is a solution: Supplement your factions and your settings with the 2e stuff, still available online for modest costs.
Sounds like the campaign borrows parts form plainscape torment I can only hope that it doesn’t take too much and only try to make the pcs a new version of the nameless one I’d be really disappointed as they should come up with something more original
This set has around the same page count as the 2e Planescape campaign setting box set. I think people either don't know that or don't realise the meat of 2e Planescape came from multiple box sets, books and adventures.
Thank god The Cant hasn't returned - nothing has aged quite as badly as the mock cockney slang. Got it Berk?
Nah. The cant added a ton of personality to the setting.
I was super disappointed with the 5e spelljammer set. don't have a lot of hope for this one going into the review. There have been good campaign books in 5e, the Eberron book springs to mind, but they've been the exception.
The Eberron book was great. I hate they made one official book. Keith Baker's books are awesome.
Planar Wanderer is a awful waste of feat, no one give a single buck to revise the feat with One DnD Language, without the +1ASI on the feat it turns in a complete
prohibitive choice if you doesn't want to stay behind from the entire party for the rest of the game, that is very sad because the feat is cool but impossible to pick
The bar is so low that a planescape book with 0 information about the planes is considered good......classic wotc.
I’ll be passing on this product. It’s too far away from 2E Placescape for my taste and the adventure sounds like the writers watch too much Disney Marvel and Loki.
Races. Don't say species or change language because a billion dollar company tells you to.