This progressed so quickly i have no doubt it was from the artists condition. Most common is from unclean surfaces and water *cough tap water* The fact it was resistant to the fiest round of antibiotics she was given deffinetly makes it seem like she had developed cellulitis. Cellulitis is like an iceberg, however bad it looks uptop its usually much bigger underneath the skin. A lot of people were saying its staph - but just to clarify saph is one of the main bugs that CAUSE cellulitis. I hope this guy gets exposed, if these dudes have nothing to lose they will keep doing what they're doing. Also you're right Lauren the markings is to track the redness if its growing or shrinking lol
I got cellulitis from an injection by a nurse in my hip, it was one of the most painful experiences I’ve ever had and I’ve had quite a few. I had to get IV antibiotics. I’ve had my large intestine, rectum, cervix, uteris, right ovary, fallopian tubes, appendix and hall bladder all removed, have had two ostomies (second is permanent), infection from a drain tube, internal bleeding, etc and cellulitis was worst than quite a bit of that. It was just a small area too!! I couldn’t move positions without intense pain. I even missed some of my sons baseball games which I never do.
From having infections before personally. From very professional surgeons- I’m talking some of America’s top surgeons. I can easily say that whatever precautions they said they took… they didn’t. There’s no fcking way. That rapid level of infection I saw… from a viral infection that had to be killed with antibiotics that doctors are AFRAID of giving patients if they don’t have to. Like they genuinely would avoid giving if it was even remotely possible bc they could make it ten times worse and destroy your immune system. My heart hurts for her and how she was treated by this disgusting “ professional “
same goes for a piercing tbh the girl i go to always looks like shes about to draw blood or give me a vaccine but no shes just shoving a needle though my ear again
"could you imagine how bad it would be if she _wasn't_ on antibiotics?" yes. she would be dead. i have no doubt in my mind that if she had followed the artist's advice, she would have gone into sepsis and died. absolutely insane. he should be in jail
The fact that she had a fever and was throwing up makes me feel like she was already in early stages of sepsis. In 2018 I got cellulitis and sepsis from a cut on my hand. Within 12 hours of the injury my entire hand was swollen and extremely painful. After 24 hours I was nauseous, had a fever, etc. I started taking bactrim 12hrs after injury but it wasn’t working well enough. After 48 hours I went to the ER and was in full blown sepsis, hospitalized for two weeks then on oral antibiotics for two months after. I almost died. The oral antibiotics probably slowed the infection just enough for her to get to the hospital.
Why should he be in jail? She decided to get ot done, she called out 25 things before he started that said it was a badidea. She made a choice and these are the consequences of those choices. I'm sorry , people need to be responsible, people have intellectual minds, and cell phones , so the red flags and the fact she didn't even reseach the facts is a serious issue. I'm am absolutely in terror for her. The problem is that it's not just his fault, it is hers as well.
@@beentheredonethat5908 I would love to hear this point of view explained to a lawyer lmao. yes, its still your fault if you give someone an infection. no it doesn't matter if they "should have known better." there's a _reason_ tattoo artists in most places are required to have a blood borne pathogens certification. I don't care if she signed a waiver, the duty of care was on _him._ he should know how to keep his setup sterile, how to recognize the symptoms of serious infection, and how to _put aside his personal pride and tell that person to get to the doctor before they fucking die,_ holy shit. he gave her incorrect medical advice that almost cost her her life the victim blaming here is off the charts. you seem to think that people who aren't as perfect and clever and "intellectual" as you deserve to get hurt, and that if you are simply clever and worldly and intellectual enough, you _won't_ get hurt. but that's not how the world works. there aren't always red flags, there aren't always warning signs, and nobody, _nobody_ is perfect in making their decisions. just have some human fucking compassion, jfc. yes, it is the guy with the dirty needles' fault that she got sick
Fun fact: a waiver won't necessarily protect you from liability. If a client signs it but it's found the shop/artist engaged in gross negligence/etc, they can still be held liable.
People really forget this, waviers protect you IF you did everything on your end and the person ended up getting hurt anyways due to something that you didn't directly cause, not if you straight up ignore laws and regulations.
@@elliottlupinExactly! The artist and shop MUST be and do what they claim for a wavier to come into play. If a shop is dirty , the shop has artists that can't tattoo and is unsanitary, you can absolutely sue them.
Yeah, that’s not the case only with tattoos but any waiver. If the business engages in negligence, they are still accountable. The waivers are for normal risks or if the client/customer chooses not to follow safety instructions.
There appears to have been a police investigation. However they might not have been able to prove direct causation. Sadly sometimes you have to take what you can get.
@@treacletatts Thank you. It's been 11 years now, but it definitely made me cautious about signs of infection. I wouldn't wish that kind of suffering on anyone.
To everyone who says 'a tattoo infection can't kill you' sweetheart, a paper cut could kill you if it gets infected. Sepsis can happen with every open wound that gets infected, has nothing to do with how severe or bad a wound is.
my science teacher once got some strain of mrsa after pushing around a shopping cart with a tiny cut on his hand. luckily it didnt get too bad before it got treatment, but things definitely could have gone fatally worse. he also had to get treatments multiple times because it just kept coming back
it also depends on how good your immune system is. I’ve had plenty of side-of-the-nail mini infections, popped and cleaned. Gotten rid of many pimples with no issues. Any cuts I got no matter how small or big never got infected, never had ANY issues, and you know damn well I didn’t thoroughly clean every single one I’ve ever gotten. This isn’t to say what you’re saying is incorrect, just that it’s rare. I’m sure there are people out there with very delicate immune systems who can’t chance any sort of wound, though.
@@LuluTheCorgi agreed, knowing the symptoms of septic shock is important and can save lives. All i’m saying is that it IS rare lol doesn’t mean people still shouldn’t be aware
I've had sepsis and it's terrifying how FAST it comes on and how bad it gets so quickly. I felt ill the day before, though it was flu coming on. I was out with my mother in the afternoon when I started to feel really badly sick and needed to go home. Got home, crawled into bed shivering like mad. At about 5 pm the ambulance was called. The paramedic said had I just gone to sleep I wouldn't have woken up again. I was taken straight to a lovely room labelled "resuscitation" and spent the night in the ICU with a lot of tubes and needles in me. I mean less than 24 hours I went from fine to literally dying, that's terrifying. It got so bad so fast and the scariest bit is they never found the source of the infection either. Sepsis is so frightening, it'll kill you within mere hours.
@@emmagrant689if they were unspayed female cats it's possible they got a uterine infection, or pyometra, which is usually deadly because it causes sepsis... This is why pets should be spayed, it's a very common cause of death for dogs too
@@2nicnag2YEAH, I have to do sinus rinses aswell, you have to stabilize the water with some type of solution aswell as it’s reccomend to use water bottles Sinus rinses for me atleast already are uncomfortable enough , I CANT IMAGINEEEE the pain and agony of TAP water , then the infection afterwards, which can be horrible cause that’s to close to the eyes and throat and air ways And that’s why it’s important to listen to medical professionals
afaik tap water isnt recommended for cpap machines bc of the mineral buildup in the machine itself, not bc tap water isnt sanitary. distilled water for cpap machines is sold in cheap plastic jugs at places like walmart, its not medical grade bc it doesnt have to be like, think of all the garbage we already breathe in every day: exhaust fumes, dust, dander, pollen, perfume, humidity already present in the air (which is a LOT less clean than tap water). i can understand tap water not being recommended for sinuses maybe, but for cpap its just to avoid ruining the machine
My artists have a kind of waiver that you're of sound mind and body to get a tattoo. They also *always* give you an aftercare sheet, even if you've been getting tattooed by them for YEARS
Yeah, my two tattoos have been done at the same shop (two different artists) and the shop has a whole waiver to fill out that says that you agree that you are 18+, not under the influence of drugs/alcohol, that you will follow the aftercare sheet given to you by your artist, and that you understand the risks associated with a tattoo (infections and bloodborne pathogens), but also outlines the steps the shop takes to mitigate these risks (using single use sterile equipment, sanitation practices, artist completing training on bloodborne pathogens, etc.) and the artist takes probably 20+ minutes to set up for each tattoo before you even sit down because they wipe down every single surface in the booth where equipment is or will be, etc.
I got my first ever tattoo at a comic con booth which was obviously not my smartest decision but thankfully the artist was so kind and insistent that if I had any kind of reaction later to contact his studio and they would help since I knew almost nothing about tattoo care. I think he was more nervous than I was honestly lol. Sorry this doesn’t really add to the story but it has made me reflect on my experiences and I’m so thankful I’ve had artists who care about the quality of their work and wellbeing of their clients 😭
Serious artists at cons take extra extra steps to not only guarantee their station is as pristine as possible but also to make the person getting inked really aware of what they shouldn’t eat, how they need to shower, signs of infection, absolutely no sun exposure while is healing, etc. You probably was way safer than any of the people who trusted this moron.
Honestly the people who tat at cons super overcompensate due to the conditions. I got what must be my best or second best tattoo at a con too, and it looks amazing. I don’t regret it at all I’ve seen that artist and her colleagues all 11 years
Man, even if it WAS "just a reaction to the second skin", when I got my tattoo and got one blister from the saniderm, my artist called twice over the next week to make sure it was healing properly and it wasn't getting worse/was getting better after I took off the saniderm. Handwaving an allergic reaction like that is so... idk.
Not only could she have died of sepsis, she could have also lost her leg or parts of it if the wounds became necrotic... it would have been nice to know which bacteria it was, wondering if the hospital took a swab and tested it.
Just went onto X/Twitter and poor girls had to private her account because of all the hate. I've seen numerous people saying all sorts of awful things. But one of the most eyebrow-raising comments I saw was someone saying, "why would u tip a tattoo artist... like u re paying mostly for the services, not the supplied' (copied and pasted) ... I have no words.
My only hope is that victim blamers fall for similar shit in the future since they’re so egotistical they think they’re above others and it will cause them to get in trouble.
I'd like to add: Back when I got my very first tattoo, my artist gave me very specific instructions that should anything go wrong with the tattoo, aftercare or whatever I should call him or go to a doctor and keep him in the loop if I'm able. And this was a professional in a lovely shop, glove rotations, clingfilm-mania and all the other things we know and love. Cannot fathom the self-centeredness of a tattoo artist seeing such an angry tattoo and shrugging it off.
I think the reason we're seeing more of this is because of TikTok's algorithm. It's really good at finding random people with interesting stories, and amplifying them to the right community. There's lots of dramas that used to be limited to niche forums, Reddit and (maybe) Twitter - that are suddenly going huge from TikTok and becoming very visible. There's also a parallel trend of cheap imported tattoo equipment and lots of tutorials online - so people are also able to become self-taught "experts" without actually having the skills or knowledge to be safe/good.
Exactly! And like how are says that getting tattooed is painful enough. That big blackwork on your thigh, femur and knee area? How horrible. I made a comment that I can't believe he did all that in one session for her anyway.
This story isn't about a tattoo, but people need to be more like my cake lady that's making my wedding cake for July. 15 years ago (not a typo.. FIFTEEN YEARS) my best friend got married. They hired a lady to make their wedding cake and she FORGOT the cake entirely. My best friend's dad ran to the nearest grocery store and grabbed a standard cake. The cake lady told my best friend afterwards: "When you need a cake, it's on me!" And this lady has since blown up! Her business is booming and she only takes 20 orders a year, she travels for big events to supply specialty cakes, she doesn't take orders less than $2k... My best friend called her and said "my best friend is getting married. Can I take you up on your free cake offer?" And the cake lady said "absolutely!" and then burst into tears and told her that this has plagued her for the past 15 years, and she completely redesigned her business model after forgetting my best friend's wedding cake. She agreed to do my wedding cake for free! I didn’t want to take advantage of the situation and get a full cake, so I was thinking of doing a small cutting cake, for us and possibly our wedding party. At the tasting, she was absolutely insistent that she's doing a FULL cake for the entire wedding! I even asked her "are you sure??" And she was basically like "yes! You're not getting any less than that!" We all shed some tears at the tasting, and she even gave my best friend a few mason jars full of cake and continued to apologize profusely! That is the way to be! Do what you can to fix your wrong doings! Yes, I'm happy I'm getting a free cake, but I think I love the fact that this is providing closure more! ❤
this is one of my favorite stories ever oh my god it’s like a warm hug. I hope your wedding was absolutely lovely and that everyone had the best time (including the super sweet cake lady) 🥹💕
I think there are a couple factors at play. With algorithms marketing cheap tattoo machines to the public, we have lost some of the barriers that kept people from starting a tattoo career on a whim. In a world of “buy now” buttons, we are no longer weeding out the people who would have been discouraged by having to research a tattoo supply company, sign up for an account, choose a model, etc. But I also agree that we are hearing more about these incidents because of an increase in social media use. I worked at a big box craft store from 2005-2017 and at least once a month I would get the question “where are your guys’d tattoo inks at?” I would explain we don’t carry tattoo inks, and the customer would instead ask where we keep “the inks.” I would make a last ditch attempt warn that none of the inks are formulated for injection in skin, that they are not produced in sanitary conditions, and that use of any of our products in a tattoo could result in severe infections including sepsis. Hopefully I prevented some injuries and illnesses, but nearly 20 years later I still regret that I was not in a position to refuse to sell the inks based on my concern about what they might be used for.
When I was like 16 I tattooed myself with a sowing needle and calligraphy ink. I had no idea that it could be unsafe because of the ink. If someone had told me I could have had an allergic reaction I probably wouldn't have. It worked out just fine actually but I'm not proud of it. At least you can barely tell anymore.
@@CainXVIII was 14yrs and did the same using India ink, did a large rose on my thigh, still bold as ever 40yrs later...I have had tattoo artists say I didn't do too bad of a job apparently, took me hours though. I just wanted to get back at my parents as I was never allowed over anyone's house ever and I thought my body was the one thing they couldn't control.
Sadly it’s still not much better - i worked at a ‘Shmichaels’ for a while up till 2019 and mostly teens came in looking for ‘tattoo’ ink🤦🏻♀️ Amazing we had spray paint locked up, but calligraphy inks got stolen all the time! Had one girl wanting to get the shimmery duochrome because she thought it would make an ‘amazing tattoo outline’ smh…
Yeah even on yt there's videos how tattoo yourself with a needle like bruh and even in the comments section there's people already complaining about itchy and stuff , mostly obviously dumb kids
I always take even small cuts seriously because my mom nearly had her leg amputated from a small scrape that got infected and started going septic. It's a lot more serious than people realize and can happen to anyone! It's so important to take care of any cuts/wounds on your body. This goes double for tattoos because you're literally putting foreign substances into your skin which increases the chances for infection via a number of different avenues. If you're ever questioning the cleanliness of a tattoo studio; RUN don't walk right out of there and find somewhere else. It's terrible what this person has had to go through. She's lucky that it didn't end up worse :c
My friends aunt was walking around the mall when her flip flop broke and she walked around barefoot on one foot, she ended up contracting a flesh eating infection from a small cut on her foot and needed her toe and a chunk of foot amputated
YES! My Dad had a callus on the bottom of his foot, his job had him on his feet most of the day and he had flat feet/uneven walking sooo, callus. He would use pumice stone and things but then started clipping it away when he would clip his nails, once he cut it a bit too deep into that baby soft skin underneath. He didn’t think much about it, and went on a work trip. Came back sick as ever - turned out the cut on the foot and then using a hotel shower (the Dr believed) caused a staph infection/nearly septic to the point that they put in a central line and after 3/4 days in hospital sent him home with 2x a day IV antibiotics and a nurse came out every other day as well. Thankfully i’m a medical assistant and was able to help him with the IV and flush the line and wound cleaning etc! If he had been gone on the business trip one more day that callus may have killed him!
I saw Markie’s video about this the other day, and when I first saw the photos my immediate thought was “that looks like cellulitis”, and the symptoms she described sounded like it too. Years ago, I contracted cellulitis from a spider bite on my leg, and my calf looked very similar to hers (minus the tattoo). Edited to add that I just got to the part where you talk about the markings, and the doctor did that on my leg too. You’re right, it is to see whether the swelling and redness has spread or shrunk. I was living in South Korea at the time, and I’d been hiking in the woods with friends when I got bitten. I didn’t think anything of it until I got home and felt dizzy and nauseous. I assumed it was from the heat, until I looked down and saw that the bite on my leg had spread. A few hours later, it had almost covered my entire calf. It was about 1 or 2am by this point and I didn’t know what to do so I called my mum in the UK (she’s a dermatology nurse). She’s always been the type of person to say “it’s probably nothing. See how you feel in the morning”. But in this case she said “that sounds like cellulitis. Get to a hospital now!” There were no English speaking doctors available, but they gave me an injection (I assume it was some kind of antibiotic), drew around the swelling, then sent me home and told me to come back later that day. The doctor told me it was cellulitis and that it was a good thing I called my mum, because it could have developed into sepsis if left untreated.
I got cellulitis and sepsis from a cut on my hand in 2018. I started oral antibiotics 12 hours after the injury but they weren’t working well. It took me a couple days before I went to the ER and I ended up being hospitalized for two weeks. A month later, some bacteria that was trapped in my ankle joint released and the whole thing started all over again. Sepsis, two week hospitalization and surgery to irrigate my ankle joint. I was so incredibly sick. There is truly nothing like it. I felt like I was in a dream.
@@sarahg2665 That’s horrifying! I can’t imagine going through all that twice! I’m glad I called my mum and sought medical treatment so early, as I’ve heard so many stories like yours. I was worried when they sent me home, but because of the language barrier and the lack of hospital beds, I understood why they did, and I still got given antibiotics and seen by an English speaking doctor within 24 hours.
Interesting that your infection happened from a spider bite. Makes me wonder how common cellulitis after spider bites is as that could be why some species get falsely labeled as having deadly venom when there are only four where that's true.
@@feiradragon7915 The doctor actually said that it was likely a venomous spider, but that also there are no venomous spiders indigenous to Korea. Apparently there have been rare instances of these spiders entering the country in people’s luggage via countries like Thailand or Australia! I know it sounds far fetched, but I have a history of bad luck, so if anyone was going to get bitten by a venomous spider in a country they’re not native to, it would be me 😂
I started having reactions last year to saniderm(the secondskin stuff) and yes, that’s exactly what it looks like. Big ol square. Luckily it never messed up the tattoo itself because of the plasma being a barrier. I’m immunocomprised and have been working on a sleeve for about 2 years, my artist is so caring and always makes sure I’m okay. This dude is a complete scourge to the industry
I just had my first ever tattoo infection last month and it was horrible. Luckily I had a friend that knew what to do and the shop advised me how to fight the infection. It's all healed up now but definitely needs a touchup. It was scary, I kept thinking about sepsis and how dangerous my infection truly was. I feel very fortunate that it healed easily and quickly once I started treating it.
Tattoo artist here - on the topic of Second Skin and reactions - The adhesives in second skin and similar products can have a type of chemical reaction to the types of soaps used in some artists set up, for example I use green soap and if you do not clean the tattoo with rubbing alcohol (yes, I know that sounds awful but I promise the chemical reaction feels worse) before putting on any second skin or similar products, it can create a more severe red reaction around the tattoo (like the one on the right side of the second skin reaction photos - the olive branch I believe?) - BUT NEVER SWOLLEN LIKE THAT. If it were the chemical reaction, it would be visible everywhere the soap was, and it wouldn’t swell like a golf ball in one spot. I’ve had this chemical reaction, the tattoo artist got distracted half way through cleaning the tattoo and it was almost divided in the middle where one side was cleaned before and the other wasn’t. Just throwing that out there though in case anyone does get their own second skin, saniderm, recoveryderm or whatever else - be sure to wash well before you apply the bandage to remove any soap residue from the tattoo session, even in the areas surrounding where the adhesive will be! And ALWAYS DO A PATCH TEST! ❤️✨ away from your tattoo to make sure you aren’t allergic to those kinds of tattoo bandages! And keep in mind if your tattoo artist says they don’t use it, you can ask why, or simply get your own, but there’s probably a reason! P.S. it will rip your skin off and make it look like a peely sunburn for a few days if you use it on the wrong kind of soap! 😢
Tattoo artist here as well. Man I came to this same conclusion. It was the only thing that made sense. Wiping the whole area down with distilled water a few times has worked for me so far. Glad to confirm this more because I was thinking of doing a test on myself lol
That actually explains the one really bad experience I had with second skin! My artist put it on a tattoo on my arm, and when I took it off it literally peeled the skin off in places and was all red and irritated. I actually still have a scar outlining where the second skin was (though it's quite faint now, thankfully).
yikes! That’s amazing to know! I am allergic to some adhesives- found out after a major hip surgery at 12yo when they went to do the incision check/bandage change and i screamed bloody murder because they didn’t know they were taking most of my blistered skin with the tape😭 Talk about a nightmare! I can use second skin but usually let my artist know of the allergy and bring a brand i know i can use just in case. Oh, and i could Never Ever leave even the ‘good’ one on for more than 18/24 hours! Anything past that and my skin gets unhappy😂
As someone who got a lot of blackout on a leg piece there were two things OTHER than "just" the sanitation that stood out too. I'm just sharing this in case anyone is wanting to do it. They did this in one sitting, that's a lot of trauma to the body at one time. Literal trauma, the body has to clear out that ink and heal that area. My large lower leg blackout took 12+ hours, we did 3 sessions. After the third sessions it did hurt to walk on my calf for 2 days (sore not pain). It wasn't bad pain but it was sore like i had a workout because that area had a LARGE TRAUMA. And i had a couple very small areas like on my femur where the ink didn't stay as well. These are normal. And this was discussed and of course any areas that needed to be touched up after would be touched up, not being offered as an "extra"! And, this was not my first heavier black tattoo, even though i had never had anything like this. This is opinion: I don't think that this amount of blackout/black work should be given to someone who has so little tattoo work that the sanitation didn't throw up a flag. This is a painful experience that you need to be in tune with your body to get through. But GOOD ON THIS WOMAN to go ahead and call urgent care anyway because she knew that she was sick. Some people would not until it was much later and that can be very dangerous. Also yeah with the bruising i bruise really easily and i have bruising usually where they hold my arm/leg/etc while tattooing somewhere else. I am sorry VERY pale so both myself and a couple friends are very pale so we get redness around the tattoo but even though the tattoo is red it's a more "evenly red" and not that big red patch. THOUGH if you see any redness please let your tattoo artist know and if you are not sure at all then don't be afraid to let your doctor know
100% they shouldn't have done all of that in 1 day , I've been a tattoo artist for 16 years and have alot of work but when we blacked out my arm we did 3x sittings bc it will get to a point where there is to much trauma for 1 day and they did way to much .
All 3 of my 4 large calf tattoos were done in 2 sessions each (one was all one go) the day or 2 after each session it hurt to step too hard. Then it was fine. That was a lot of solid work to do in one go
@@Drummerchef13 I think people forget that on their own tattoos are wounds; even in ideal conditions your body can reject the ink or not heal correctly (I had to get a coverup because of this myself). It can hurt for a while if you get it on the muscle . You can pickup an infection for weeks from the public spaces around you (same freaking tattoo I got staph on a vacation). So if you have bad technique, bad product, and bad hygiene + who knows what else you've got just the process itself against you PLUS all of this extra crap. It's not that they deserve it by any means but I think that we've made tattoos so common that the danger is downplayed
not sure about the uk or canada, but signing a waiver like this at a business in the US would absolutely not protect them from a gross negligence lawsuit
Telling her she has had a reaction. To 2nd skin is wild! I have used it 2x (1 for surgery and 1 for a tat) before infigured out that I am prob allergic. I get tiny blisters around the tat and the tat is fine. Nothing caused my whole arm to hurt and be so inflammed. The guy needs to be behind bars for inflicting such trauma with such negligence
Happy healing!! Make sure to move about a bit, as getting the circulation up is good for systemic health to filter the lymph and blood channels! (I never healed so fast as when bicycling everywhere year-round in the early 1980’s; having given up cars out of frustration and putting that money into…more tattoos…completely my bodysuit in 1986.) By the way, my artist, D.L. Nolan, 1938-2019, termed my cats as “mechanical contrivances.” Nolan loved his award winning antique cars and modern motorcycles, but also applauded my bicycle use, putting a wee bike on a finger. So…Get Moving! And as Nolan would say, “Don’t leave your (new) tattoo in any bars!” ~ Willie
My artist owns his own shop without anyone else working with him. It's still a legal studio and has all the paperwork framed on the wall. He has the waiver ECT. It's not any different than any other shop. If it is, you don't let them tattoo you.
People used to die from sepsis. The tings got better just after antibiotics were discovered. To reinforce the "second skin sensitivity" issued by tattoer: the glue may give allergy and subsequent contact dermatitis, but those come in the shape of the object you glued on. I get a band aid shaped red area if I use the wrong kind of band aid. This do not spread and heals in a short amount of time, in a similar fashion of a pimple: gets less red, may have a dry dry skin period, itches like hell, leave a darker mark for some time and at the end completely disappear. Nothing of what happened to the girl could ever seem like a contact dermatitis from second skin.
The “semi-occlusive bandage,” which came to tattooing in the 1990’s from medical wound dressing of second and third degree burns…are unnecessary. Whether you use adhesive-bordered sterile bandages or simply plastic wrap, more people are allergic to the TAPE or the ADHESIVE than to anything else. Tattoos are not burns, they are very shallow abrasions done with sharp, sterile “bug pin” needles.Our bodies have no trouble with multi-hour sessions of extremely shallow abrasions. Our minds get tired of the process of feeling (manageable!) pain for hours. That’s what gives some of us the tattoo “shakes” after completing three, four, five or more hours of (intermittently!) “continuous” work. The actual number of minutes per hour of needle-in-skin is minuscule; you can time it! Your body is completely fine with the abrasion; it’s not a burn, a break, a deep puncture or a laceration!! It’s our minds which have trouble putting up with the discomfort and remaining still on a table or in a chair. Just take your time, don’t push the sessions so much that doing so “works against you,” and LEARN to RELAX!! It’s just a(nother) tattoo. Don’t sweat the small stuff. Tattoos aren’t broken relationships, the death of dear pets, lost employment, major physical trauma, or mandatory. Pace yourself! Set some goals! Go on about your life! Tattoos are the very least of the painful points in any human life!! Some people don’t even live long enough through childhood cancer to reach adulthood and get a tattoo! Keep that perspective!! I am Willie Snyder. I know.
It is SO EASY to get a tattoo infection. I went to a lovely, reputable shop for the first time, but not my first tattoo. Excellent prep and sanitation. I used second skin for the first time and must've gotten a lil germ in there because I had an infection. The studio offered excellent advice and I went on antibiotics as soon as the red started spreading. The touch up healed perfectly. Be careful ya'll!
I'm not a clean freak by any means, but the thought of somebody being that grossly negligent (and also just gross) with something that is just a giant open wound essentially...that terrifies me I've had multiple relatives almost die from infections like that that artist is lucky no one has sued him (assuming no one has at this point)
Omg after 7 yrs of saving up and researching I finally have my first ever tattoo session to start a sleeve in 10 days - the timing on this is not great for me lol😂💀
The timing of this could save your life if it’s a bad artist, and you have more info to know what a good artist is! And as I’ve only just seen this video and your comment is a month old… how about an update on how it’s going?
I truly do not understand how these horrible people continuously get booked in the first place, and they all seem to have so many followers/exposure. I know they don't just turn horrible for just one client, they always have a history of being horrible. It's heartbreakingly frustrating when I myself can barely get one or two bookings a month (for the past 8 months): yet these horrible people...
I'm so glad Maddy is ok! Hope she gets some kind of healing from her trauma. That is so terrifying how quickly that got inflamed and red, and she got sick! So SCARY. Hope you get it fixed up and it hasn't ruined tattoos for you Maddy!! You seem like a lovely woman.
I survived sepsis after a tattoo, and still love tattoos 😊 Mine looked quite similar unfortunately whilst infected and I was diagnosed with cellulitis plus tested positive for staph aureus. I was in hospital for a week after being rushed to ER (with intense fatigue, nausea, fever, full body aches and delirium that developed in 24-48 hours after the tattoo), but the tattoo actually healed up incredibly well in the end, which probably speaks to the skill of my tattoo artist. And yes, the doctors drew the dotted lines around my inflammation sites too 😂 I don’t know where it went wrong- there were a couple of potential contamination opportunities in the studio that I can recall, but my understanding is that staph can also be part of our skin micro biome that becomes dangerous if it enters the bloodstream. I’ve since tried to stick to artists and studios whose processes I have observed and trust; asking if they mind taking extra care with skin prep and cleaning at the end; and I also choose to use Chlorhexidine body wash or similar before going in to get a tattoo. I’ve been able to continue getting large and heavily coloured tattoos without any issues so far. Just sharing my experience, and hoping this helps people find a way to balance their love for tattoos alongside making personal decisions for their own health and safety ❤ I’m also so grateful for the swift health care I was able to receive, which no doubt saved my life.
oh damn, this video just upped my worries about some friends ... they recently got started tattooing each other and i am surprised nobody got infected yet ... none of them take it seriously when i tell them that what they're doing is unsanitary and dangerous af and just go "yeah but we always use new needles :)" - as tho that were my concern and not the tattoing without gloves in our living room, on our rarely cleaned couch!? (not to mention the abhorrent quality of the tattoos themselves, but that's another conversation ...)
Take it from me, they will regret all of those tattoos. I went through the same thing when someone in our friend group got a tattoo gun from Amazon and started doing tattoos in my living room. Unfortunately, I even got one of hello kitty on my forearm and it has really not aged well. I’m so lucky that it healed correctly. That was about ten years ago, when I had just turned 19. My daughters love it because they’re five and don’t know any better 😂 but, I’m hoping to get it covered someday.
That tattoo is so infected omg. About second skin ,as someone who’s been tattooed for over ten years and has almost her full entire body covered , I wouldn’t recommend using second skin nor dermalize on the first day, it keeps the juices in keeping the skin overly moist which doesn’t help with pain nor healing, best to use a tattoo absorbing pad on the first night after a shower and air drying the tattoo and then either another pad the next day or dermalize depending on if there are still juices or not (there shouldn’t be much by now) or if it’s a very simple tattoo with not much colour you can just leave it be and then the day after that you can start applying stuff like tattoo ointments if you want but I don’t recommend cocoa butter because it causes painful pimples because it’s just too greasy and rich for silver skin/new skin
What you’re saying makes perfect sense!! I’ve personally been ok / prefer second skin and tbh only one artist I’ve been too in the past idk 5 years still doesn’t use second skin but you 100% got me thinking now 😂
@@treacletatts second skin uses the moist healing method which is a perfectly safe and reccomended for healing wounds now over dry healing (which was what was normal up until the 1960s) The dressing is semi occlusive and allows vapor evaporation and breathability but doesn't allow microorganisms to pass. It's best to change the second skin after you first get it so it's not super soupy. But using second skin for the entire duration of healing is very safe. The "over moisturization" is not a concern in its case, as it facilitates wound healing. ❤
Your body knows how to heal simple abrasions, inclusive of minute amounts of finely ground foreign substances that we insist upon putting into the tiny punctures. I’ve seen a lot of nonsense since receiving my first (small) tattoo in 1978, completing my bodysuit in 1986, adding to it, re-lining/re-coloring most of it in the 2010’s, and still getting tattooed (as recently as last year, 2023). You don’t need all the specialized nonsense. Keep it clean! Keep it dry as it wants (don’t soak it, swim with it, “moisturize” it)! Keep it out of the sun! Keep your fingers off it! Keep your friends’ fingers off it! Keep some physical activity in your life to circulate the bloodstream! Keep a good thought for how well your body already looks after what we do to our skin! Really, your body knows its business best!! ~ Willie
yea my first artist doesn't like second skin and i'm with her tbh, unless i have to do anything dirty/physically active right after being tattooed that i can't reschedule i'd rather just use pad bandages and let it dry out on its own
It's funny, I'm a nurse, going for tattoo, very similar to setting up for wound care, and then tattoo wound care it helps I know how to take care of way worse wounds. Second skin is pretty much hospital tegaderm, which is awesome.
i think youre exactly right. before tiktok we didnt really have a platform for this kind of thing. we didnt have a platform for videos that wasnt youtube. vine was only 6 seconds, snapchat was only with friends, facebook posts could be public but rarely moved outside of friends, and instagram reels didnt come out until like 2020. we literally didnt have another place to make this short, personable videos. youtube maybe could have been used, but reach on a single video, from an unknown channel, wouldnt have gone too far.
Oh dang, it didn't even occur to me that second skin would use medical adhesive. Not to be dramatic but you may have just saved my life lol (I have a severe allergy!)
@@lavieestbellexx I'm glad I could help! The nice thing is tattoo artist will have an option for something other than second skin because theres a good number of people allergic to it
I had a cat bite back in November that needed antibiotics. It hurt SO bad. I couldn't imagine that feeling on such a large part of my body. I feel so bad for her and I'm happy shes on a road to recovery.
I’m someone with very sensitive skin: I’m allergic to some brands of second-skin-type bandages, am prone to MARSI, and have even had mild allergic reactions to tattoo inks. So I feel pretty confident saying that while allergic reactions can be very serious and there is some crossover with the infection symptoms (dermatitis, itchiness, additional pain) there are a lot of differences and this person most definitely has an infection not a “reaction to the bandage”.
As an aspiring tattoo artist preparing my portfolio currently and I’ve known I wanted to tattoo since I was a kid. If I did this to someone the guilt would keep me up at night and going forward I would fully be OVERLY precautious when it comes to sanitation and care.
I have always wanted tattoos. Years ago, a friend invited me to go with her for a piece so I could see how it goes. I met her at the studio and was immediately told I had to take my shoes off because of the snow outside and them doing Reno’s. The floor tiles were ripped up with jagged grout and bits of still stuck floor tiles…. I was barefoot in ballet flats. They were rude about me asking for paper towels. Told them it was not sage for me to walk barefoot around the place, and I’d dry my shoes to their satisfaction. They had not told my friend, so she was in her socks. They didn’t provide slippers or anything as a precaution. Then I watched as she was mid tattoo, getting her forearm done with it across the tufted pleather chair, no wrap down or anything. She was bleeding every so often…. The tufted parts of the chair thingy had reno dust build up caked into it… and her blood was mixing into it. I was horrified, and she was a nurse, and I was a hospital secretary. I couldn’t believe the health risks I could see that she was just cool with. Needless to say, I never did end up risking getting a tattoo, because she was right, the place was a highly rated studio in our city, so if that was highly rated I was terrified to go anywhere and risk getting a tattoo.
Yeah I don't mind private studios either. My current artist who's done about 9 hours on my arm operates out of a private studio and it's suuuuper clean. It was a renovated post office. He's moving to a bigger private studio and bringing in other artists and gutted the location to rebuild. It's prob the cleanest studio I've ever seen tbh.
It shocks me how badly tattoo artists can mess up. I only have one tattoo, plan on getting more one day, and my artist made me feel so safe. He was careful, constantly cleaned my arm and once I had my second skin on, there wasn't a single puddle or blood drop to be seen, it truly was a perfect job. And I have to add, it wasn't a small tattoo either, it's my entire forearm and has black coloured spots. To see just how bad it could get makes me low-key nauseous.
Exactly a year ago my dad nearly died of sepsis. He was able to make a full recovery but there was a bit where we didn’t know if he would make it. It’s one of the most terrifying ways to die. Infections are extremely serious and scary, pls take them seriously
Thanks for giving us amazing videos even though your throat is causing you problems. We appreciate the struggle and wish you a fast recovery from your latest round of treatment ❤️
My artist as a pedestal to put people on when drawing on the legs, it's just a stainless steel square tool and it's sanitized just like the rest of the equipment.
I'm sorry, that price is insane!! I'm Canadian paying GTA prices (which I think are pretty similar to Vancouver) and I have two tattoos larger than that in a similar style that were $800 and $600... For that price I would have expected the absolute best quality, I'm so sorry she got THAT
I wouldn’t say that it’s a tattoo artist being careless, it’s a popular scratcher. It’s insane how many people go to people who just work in a shed/ have a friend do it in unsafe settings. Remember tattoos are permanent. Researching someone extensively helps your money in the long run even if it pricier.
How do you not see the artist as being careless? Completely genuine question because personally that infection seems like it could've been so easily avoided with some care
The story of the shed tattoo studio reminded me of how my ex came home one day from work, saying that he will get a tattoo from his coworker, me knowimg more about tattoos than jim, asked him if he has pics of stuff that she has done, it was atrocious and i told him so and i also domt think she would have been sanitary enough but he was mad at me for telling him that her tattoos are bad and that I dont recommend him to let her do it. Like I get it, its cheap and easy to get but I dont think its worth it. He didnt end up getting the tattoo, at least not while we were together, dunno what hes been up to since xD
So I found your channel last night, and I am hooked. Girl I have been binge watching since last night. Thank you for popping up, can't wait to see more!😊❤
like… touch ups are normally free for the first few months?? thats just normal protocol, not compensation. he should at LEAST pay for the medical costs incurred. it’s Canada, its not like they’re that extensive - meds, hospital transport, and time off would be basic respect imo. hell, my go-to artist comped my session (relatively short, but still $150-$200 including tip) because the shop manager called me a slur.
I had a reaction to second skin, when I realized I had an issue I contacted my tattoo artist and he suggested taking it off and just wrapping it old school. I have super sensitive skin and never had it used before (was at an artists shop I hadn’t been to but knew him through my husband/high school). Pretty sure my husband is allergic to the ink.
I am not the type of person to get dizzy from looking at pictures or hearing stories. Stuff irl, that gets me. But pictures or listening to someone's story doesn't usually make me feel faint. This did. I fully felt faint and dizzy watching this video. wtf that is horrific. I wish I could say "I can't believe that happened", but I can totally believe it happened and that makes it even worse.
I live just outside of Vancouver and go into the city for all my tattoos and am always looking for new artists to get pieces from. This is so scary to me 😭 I also have a lot of friends who absolutely I could see ending up in this exact situation from being newer to tattoos and are very trusting and I'm always so scared they'll get into a situation like this.
I’m sorry your throat is hurting so much but I’m so glad to hear you got the Botox treatment done! I remember you mentioning a number of months ago about how you needed the Botox but had to schedule v far in the future. I hope that your throat calms down and that the Botox does what it’s supposed to for your RCPD. 💗
Can someone tell us who they think it might be in Van? There are so many tattoo artists with private studios! I need to know to avoid him Our tap water is clean, but not sterile!!! They definitely should be using distilled water for that!!!
I just got a new tattoo about 4 days ago, and am set up to get another one in a couple days, and your videos have made me so hyper aware of what is happening in the studios, and I am so grateful for it. I can't imagine how horrible it must be to go through something like that, and to still end up with a shitty looking permanent reminder of how you could have died. Any time I go to get a tattoo I'll always think of your vids Lauren, much love and thanks 💕✨
Sadly there's are lot of tattoo artists like that guy or maybe not that bad but still. I'm blessed with my new tattoo artist, so happy that I'm getting a new tattoo each month. Excellent service.
I've never had to sign a waiver anywhere and I've been tattooed both in Denmark and on Gran Canaria. I don't know if it's different from country to country. These days I see the same tattoo artist everytime and he's on point with everything when it comes to wrapping equipment and himself, keeping everything clean, etc.
Recently saw a poster in town of flash tattoos designs for quite cheap, couldn’t read the name and there was studio attached just qr code. Definitely suspicious of it esp. when there are reputable studios around. Tattoo infections are terrifying. Hope you feel better And the end credit art is awesome 👏🏻 ❤
Hooooly shit this is insane. Ive given myself a few tattoos (i was young and stupid, please dont tattoo yourself) and even Dumb Teenage Me did better sanitization than this guy. I feel so bad for Maddie, hope she's okay :( this sounds actually traumatic
Quick bit on waivers: You cannot actually sign away basic rights of protection. There is an assumption that whomever provides a service is also providing a base level of safety. A user of their services is not expected to be an expert on the service and its dangers. While something like stating "you are responsible if the tattoo comes out misspelled" is fine, saying "you are responsible if you get sick/die from the tattoo" is not a right you can sign away.
I had a tattoo get infected once. Now, it was definitely MY FAULT. The exposure happened after it was done, and came from my very elderly dog. I was feeling very ill after I got home, and my elderly dog climbed on me when I was too weak to fend him off. Definitely my fault. But what got me was the artist's reaction to it... I messaged him pictures of it being very obviously infected since he'd said to do so. It didn't look like this woman's tattoo, the scab of the tattoo was raised and you could see puss underneath. Like a giant ant bite or something. He was convinced it wasn't infected, and told me to leave it. I even told him I didn't think it was his fault, I thought it came from my dog who occasionally had staph on his skin. He still denied anything was wrong, and said to let it heal. Yeah, I went to my doctor and had it cultured, it was staph. I don't go to that artist anymore, needless to say. He's a great artist, his shop is clean, but if I were a person who doesn't have a regular GP and health insurance, it would have been very bad. That's what bugs me the most about the whole thing. I can admit that I did something really dumb, but for him to continue to tell me it was fine even after I had it cultured and knew it wasn't... that's dangerous. He straight up told me the culture was wrong because the tattoo didn't fall out... I was on antibiotics for weeks. I was almost admitted to the hospital. Like... what??? I can't understand NOT saying, "Yeah, that looks a bit hinky. You have health insurance? Go see your GP or urgent care about that." Why do you ask clients to let you know if anything seems wrong if you're just going to gaslight them? And I already had plenty of tattoos by this time, so it's not like this was my first rodeo and I'd be worried about any little old thing. So, yeah. If you think something is wrong, go to a doctor. At worst, you're out $50-$100 for urgent care to say you're fine. I'd say it's worth it.
When did you start doing a horror story podcast? 😬 Definitely scary stuff, and I'm glad it didn't turn out worse! Also, love the new outro! 😊 Thanks for keeping safety at the forefront of our minds and working for us with your throat hurting! Rest up and I hope it helps soon! ❤
Loving tattoos, and then getting it looking like sheeeeit, or getting an infection really sucks….. But passing away from that passion is scarier than men and bears combined 😭😭😂 Medical worker here, yes the marking is to see if it progresses and spreads….. And that tat artist almost ended his clients life, she’s lucky she didn’t end with amputation 😮
This is so scary 😢 I hope she is okay. I've had several bad times with my tattoos that have terrified me alone, without an infection, so I can only imagine how scared she must have been 💔 I have several big pieces from a professional I've gone to several times and even after those sessions my piece will usually be red/purple and appear bruised wherever I was tattooed and that scares me. Also, the A&D that he uses seems to make my skin break out in little bumps as it heals. The second skin I have had has given me hives before but thankfully I was able to get in under control with cortisone cream and just cleaning it and moisturizing it. I would also take Benadryl and ice it and elevate my leg. It's so much I have to do as it heals but I really hope she is okay 😢
Always listen to your gut; your intuition always knows long before your conscious logic does. Question your intuition after you've escaped the danger, not after you've already made yourself victim to the danger. The girl said she felt nervous about going, that should have been right where she turned around. Edit: not blaming her, just wanting people to learn from someone else's mistake rather than making it themselves
This progressed so quickly i have no doubt it was from the artists condition. Most common is from unclean surfaces and water *cough tap water*
The fact it was resistant to the fiest round of antibiotics she was given deffinetly makes it seem like she had developed cellulitis. Cellulitis is like an iceberg, however bad it looks uptop its usually much bigger underneath the skin.
A lot of people were saying its staph - but just to clarify saph is one of the main bugs that CAUSE cellulitis.
I hope this guy gets exposed, if these dudes have nothing to lose they will keep doing what they're doing.
Also you're right Lauren the markings is to track the redness if its growing or shrinking lol
I’m so glad my degree from the school of greys anatomy was useful one time 😂 thanks for your professional knowledge. ❤️
I got cellulitis from an injection by a nurse in my hip, it was one of the most painful experiences I’ve ever had and I’ve had quite a few. I had to get IV antibiotics. I’ve had my large intestine, rectum, cervix, uteris, right ovary, fallopian tubes, appendix and hall bladder all removed, have had two ostomies (second is permanent), infection from a drain tube, internal bleeding, etc and cellulitis was worst than quite a bit of that. It was just a small area too!! I couldn’t move positions without intense pain. I even missed some of my sons baseball games which I never do.
I thought it looked like cellulitis as well, and possibly necrotising fasciitis, I'm glad she's healing, horrible stuff!
I have no medical training but I have unfortunately had horrible cases of staph and that looks like something else entirely to me 😬
From having infections before personally. From very professional surgeons- I’m talking some of America’s top surgeons.
I can easily say that whatever precautions they said they took… they didn’t. There’s no fcking way. That rapid level of infection I saw… from a viral infection that had to be killed with antibiotics that doctors are AFRAID of giving patients if they don’t have to. Like they genuinely would avoid giving if it was even remotely possible bc they could make it ten times worse and destroy your immune system. My heart hurts for her and how she was treated by this disgusting “ professional “
"If your tattoo artist doesn't look like they're preparing for surgery, leave."
same goes for a piercing tbh
the girl i go to always looks like shes about to draw blood or give me a vaccine but no shes just shoving a needle though my ear again
"could you imagine how bad it would be if she _wasn't_ on antibiotics?" yes. she would be dead. i have no doubt in my mind that if she had followed the artist's advice, she would have gone into sepsis and died. absolutely insane. he should be in jail
The fact that she had a fever and was throwing up makes me feel like she was already in early stages of sepsis. In 2018 I got cellulitis and sepsis from a cut on my hand. Within 12 hours of the injury my entire hand was swollen and extremely painful. After 24 hours I was nauseous, had a fever, etc. I started taking bactrim 12hrs after injury but it wasn’t working well enough. After 48 hours I went to the ER and was in full blown sepsis, hospitalized for two weeks then on oral antibiotics for two months after. I almost died. The oral antibiotics probably slowed the infection just enough for her to get to the hospital.
Why should he be in jail? She decided to get ot done, she called out 25 things before he started that said it was a badidea. She made a choice and these are the consequences of those choices. I'm sorry , people need to be responsible, people have intellectual minds, and cell phones , so the red flags and the fact she didn't even reseach the facts is a serious issue.
I'm am absolutely in terror for her. The problem is that it's not just his fault, it is hers as well.
@@beentheredonethat5908 I would love to hear this point of view explained to a lawyer lmao. yes, its still your fault if you give someone an infection. no it doesn't matter if they "should have known better." there's a _reason_ tattoo artists in most places are required to have a blood borne pathogens certification. I don't care if she signed a waiver, the duty of care was on _him._ he should know how to keep his setup sterile, how to recognize the symptoms of serious infection, and how to _put aside his personal pride and tell that person to get to the doctor before they fucking die,_ holy shit. he gave her incorrect medical advice that almost cost her her life
the victim blaming here is off the charts. you seem to think that people who aren't as perfect and clever and "intellectual" as you deserve to get hurt, and that if you are simply clever and worldly and intellectual enough, you _won't_ get hurt. but that's not how the world works. there aren't always red flags, there aren't always warning signs, and nobody, _nobody_ is perfect in making their decisions. just have some human fucking compassion, jfc. yes, it is the guy with the dirty needles' fault that she got sick
Fun fact: a waiver won't necessarily protect you from liability. If a client signs it but it's found the shop/artist engaged in gross negligence/etc, they can still be held liable.
People really forget this, waviers protect you IF you did everything on your end and the person ended up getting hurt anyways due to something that you didn't directly cause, not if you straight up ignore laws and regulations.
Yup, waivers are often (I hesitate to say always bc it might depend on where you live) waived if a crime was committed
@@elliottlupinExactly! The artist and shop MUST be and do what they claim for a wavier to come into play. If a shop is dirty , the shop has artists that can't tattoo and is unsanitary, you can absolutely sue them.
Yeah, that’s not the case only with tattoos but any waiver. If the business engages in negligence, they are still accountable. The waivers are for normal risks or if the client/customer chooses not to follow safety instructions.
What do you mean? €1,000 fine for murdering people via tattoos United Kingdom? Throw him in jail!
£* :)
There appears to have been a police investigation. However they might not have been able to prove direct causation. Sadly sometimes you have to take what you can get.
He probably kill the other inmates tattooing them too. Some people never want to learn 😩
saying murder is too far, it's more like manslaughter and willful negligence of safety and health precautions
@@Star_Rattlernot all murder is first degree
Sepsis and gangrene is what killed my dad. It is a miserable way of die and it definitely needs to be taken seriously. How scary. 😰
Oh I’m so sorry my love ❤️
@@treacletatts Thank you. It's been 11 years now, but it definitely made me cautious about signs of infection. I wouldn't wish that kind of suffering on anyone.
Sending you love I’m sorry that you lost your dad to sepsis it is a very scary infection ❤
Fck I'm so sorry love! That absolutely sucks 😪 I hope y'all have wonderful memories with him to look back on !!💕💕💕💕
@@B.Harper7 We do. I have some genuinely wonderful stories that I tell people about often
To everyone who says 'a tattoo infection can't kill you' sweetheart, a paper cut could kill you if it gets infected. Sepsis can happen with every open wound that gets infected, has nothing to do with how severe or bad a wound is.
yes, i also want to add that staph lives naturally on the skin so its really easy to accidentally give yourself a staph infection
my science teacher once got some strain of mrsa after pushing around a shopping cart with a tiny cut on his hand. luckily it didnt get too bad before it got treatment, but things definitely could have gone fatally worse. he also had to get treatments multiple times because it just kept coming back
it also depends on how good your immune system is. I’ve had plenty of side-of-the-nail mini infections, popped and cleaned. Gotten rid of many pimples with no issues. Any cuts I got no matter how small or big never got infected, never had ANY issues, and you know damn well I didn’t thoroughly clean every single one I’ve ever gotten.
This isn’t to say what you’re saying is incorrect, just that it’s rare. I’m sure there are people out there with very delicate immune systems who can’t chance any sort of wound, though.
@@knotsoangelicthe problem is that it's so rare that when it happens people don't think about it, and then die from sepsis
@@LuluTheCorgi agreed, knowing the symptoms of septic shock is important and can save lives. All i’m saying is that it IS rare lol doesn’t mean people still shouldn’t be aware
£1000 fine for killing someone. No wonder dodgy artists are still risking it! That’s appalling!
Right! Most people will spend more than that on a tattoo!
I've had sepsis and it's terrifying how FAST it comes on and how bad it gets so quickly. I felt ill the day before, though it was flu coming on. I was out with my mother in the afternoon when I started to feel really badly sick and needed to go home. Got home, crawled into bed shivering like mad. At about 5 pm the ambulance was called. The paramedic said had I just gone to sleep I wouldn't have woken up again. I was taken straight to a lovely room labelled "resuscitation" and spent the night in the ICU with a lot of tubes and needles in me. I mean less than 24 hours I went from fine to literally dying, that's terrifying. It got so bad so fast and the scariest bit is they never found the source of the infection either. Sepsis is so frightening, it'll kill you within mere hours.
Not human, but my 2 cats got sepsis & we lost then within 4 hours of being admitted to the Vets. So fast, its so scary. So glad you're still here 💞
Also, they were fine the day before, absolutely no indication they were poorly 😞
Holy moly!!! That truly is terrifying! I’m so glad you made a recovery and are here today. Thank you for sharing your story ❤️
@@emmagrant689if they were unspayed female cats it's possible they got a uterine infection, or pyometra, which is usually deadly because it causes sepsis... This is why pets should be spayed, it's a very common cause of death for dogs too
My boss’ girlfriend experienced the same thing, she nearly died, it’s very scary!
The second TAP WATER was mentioned, my jaw dropped. Tap water is absolutely disgusting and is why you don't use it in sinus rinses and CPAP machines
I don't even clean my ears with tap water.
the tap water here is some of the cleanest in the world, but that's you-don't-need-a-brita-filter clean, not medical-grade clean
My husband does nose rinses and has a cpap and doesn’t use tap water after being warned not to
@@2nicnag2YEAH, I have to do sinus rinses aswell, you have to stabilize the water with some type of solution aswell as it’s reccomend to use water bottles
Sinus rinses for me atleast already are uncomfortable enough , I CANT IMAGINEEEE the pain and agony of TAP water , then the infection afterwards, which can be horrible cause that’s to close to the eyes and throat and air ways
And that’s why it’s important to listen to medical professionals
afaik tap water isnt recommended for cpap machines bc of the mineral buildup in the machine itself, not bc tap water isnt sanitary. distilled water for cpap machines is sold in cheap plastic jugs at places like walmart, its not medical grade bc it doesnt have to be
like, think of all the garbage we already breathe in every day: exhaust fumes, dust, dander, pollen, perfume, humidity already present in the air (which is a LOT less clean than tap water). i can understand tap water not being recommended for sinuses maybe, but for cpap its just to avoid ruining the machine
My artists have a kind of waiver that you're of sound mind and body to get a tattoo. They also *always* give you an aftercare sheet, even if you've been getting tattooed by them for YEARS
Love to hear that!!! 😍
Yeah, my two tattoos have been done at the same shop (two different artists) and the shop has a whole waiver to fill out that says that you agree that you are 18+, not under the influence of drugs/alcohol, that you will follow the aftercare sheet given to you by your artist, and that you understand the risks associated with a tattoo (infections and bloodborne pathogens), but also outlines the steps the shop takes to mitigate these risks (using single use sterile equipment, sanitation practices, artist completing training on bloodborne pathogens, etc.) and the artist takes probably 20+ minutes to set up for each tattoo before you even sit down because they wipe down every single surface in the booth where equipment is or will be, etc.
Yeah most tattooists in the UK do this
I got my first ever tattoo at a comic con booth which was obviously not my smartest decision but thankfully the artist was so kind and insistent that if I had any kind of reaction later to contact his studio and they would help since I knew almost nothing about tattoo care. I think he was more nervous than I was honestly lol. Sorry this doesn’t really add to the story but it has made me reflect on my experiences and I’m so thankful I’ve had artists who care about the quality of their work and wellbeing of their clients 😭
Im so glad he cared despite the less than ideal circumstances
Serious artists at cons take extra extra steps to not only guarantee their station is as pristine as possible but also to make the person getting inked really aware of what they shouldn’t eat, how they need to shower, signs of infection, absolutely no sun exposure while is healing, etc. You probably was way safer than any of the people who trusted this moron.
Honestly the people who tat at cons super overcompensate due to the conditions. I got what must be my best or second best tattoo at a con too, and it looks amazing. I don’t regret it at all
I’ve seen that artist and her colleagues all 11 years
Man, even if it WAS "just a reaction to the second skin", when I got my tattoo and got one blister from the saniderm, my artist called twice over the next week to make sure it was healing properly and it wasn't getting worse/was getting better after I took off the saniderm. Handwaving an allergic reaction like that is so... idk.
Not only could she have died of sepsis, she could have also lost her leg or parts of it if the wounds became necrotic... it would have been nice to know which bacteria it was, wondering if the hospital took a swab and tested it.
Just went onto X/Twitter and poor girls had to private her account because of all the hate. I've seen numerous people saying all sorts of awful things. But one of the most eyebrow-raising comments I saw was someone saying, "why would u tip a tattoo artist... like u re paying mostly for the services, not the supplied' (copied and pasted) ... I have no words.
Wow.... Well I am just also speechless to your comment poor Madi... 😢
My only hope is that victim blamers fall for similar shit in the future since they’re so egotistical they think they’re above others and it will cause them to get in trouble.
I'd like to add: Back when I got my very first tattoo, my artist gave me very specific instructions that should anything go wrong with the tattoo, aftercare or whatever I should call him or go to a doctor and keep him in the loop if I'm able. And this was a professional in a lovely shop, glove rotations, clingfilm-mania and all the other things we know and love. Cannot fathom the self-centeredness of a tattoo artist seeing such an angry tattoo and shrugging it off.
I think the reason we're seeing more of this is because of TikTok's algorithm. It's really good at finding random people with interesting stories, and amplifying them to the right community. There's lots of dramas that used to be limited to niche forums, Reddit and (maybe) Twitter - that are suddenly going huge from TikTok and becoming very visible.
There's also a parallel trend of cheap imported tattoo equipment and lots of tutorials online - so people are also able to become self-taught "experts" without actually having the skills or knowledge to be safe/good.
I feel so bad and mad for Maddy. 😢 the "artist" should pay her back in full.
Exactly! And like how are says that getting tattooed is painful enough. That big blackwork on your thigh, femur and knee area? How horrible. I made a comment that I can't believe he did all that in one session for her anyway.
He should pay her back and then some
And extra
This story isn't about a tattoo, but people need to be more like my cake lady that's making my wedding cake for July. 15 years ago (not a typo.. FIFTEEN YEARS) my best friend got married. They hired a lady to make their wedding cake and she FORGOT the cake entirely. My best friend's dad ran to the nearest grocery store and grabbed a standard cake. The cake lady told my best friend afterwards: "When you need a cake, it's on me!" And this lady has since blown up! Her business is booming and she only takes 20 orders a year, she travels for big events to supply specialty cakes, she doesn't take orders less than $2k... My best friend called her and said "my best friend is getting married. Can I take you up on your free cake offer?" And the cake lady said "absolutely!" and then burst into tears and told her that this has plagued her for the past 15 years, and she completely redesigned her business model after forgetting my best friend's wedding cake. She agreed to do my wedding cake for free! I didn’t want to take advantage of the situation and get a full cake, so I was thinking of doing a small cutting cake, for us and possibly our wedding party. At the tasting, she was absolutely insistent that she's doing a FULL cake for the entire wedding! I even asked her "are you sure??" And she was basically like "yes! You're not getting any less than that!" We all shed some tears at the tasting, and she even gave my best friend a few mason jars full of cake and continued to apologize profusely! That is the way to be! Do what you can to fix your wrong doings! Yes, I'm happy I'm getting a free cake, but I think I love the fact that this is providing closure more! ❤
this is one of my favorite stories ever oh my god it’s like a warm hug. I hope your wedding was absolutely lovely and that everyone had the best time (including the super sweet cake lady) 🥹💕
@waywardplanet my wedding is in a few days! I'm so excited! 😁 It will be amazing! And I cannot wait to see the cake, too! It's going to be beautiful!
I think there are a couple factors at play. With algorithms marketing cheap tattoo machines to the public, we have lost some of the barriers that kept people from starting a tattoo career on a whim. In a world of “buy now” buttons, we are no longer weeding out the people who would have been discouraged by having to research a tattoo supply company, sign up for an account, choose a model, etc.
But I also agree that we are hearing more about these incidents because of an increase in social media use. I worked at a big box craft store from 2005-2017 and at least once a month I would get the question “where are your guys’d tattoo inks at?”
I would explain we don’t carry tattoo inks, and the customer would instead ask where we keep “the inks.” I would make a last ditch attempt warn that none of the inks are formulated for injection in skin, that they are not produced in sanitary conditions, and that use of any of our products in a tattoo could result in severe infections including sepsis. Hopefully I prevented some injuries and illnesses, but nearly 20 years later I still regret that I was not in a position to refuse to sell the inks based on my concern about what they might be used for.
Printer ink, good lord that is chilling....
When I was like 16 I tattooed myself with a sowing needle and calligraphy ink. I had no idea that it could be unsafe because of the ink. If someone had told me I could have had an allergic reaction I probably wouldn't have. It worked out just fine actually but I'm not proud of it. At least you can barely tell anymore.
@@CainXVIII was 14yrs and did the same using India ink, did a large rose on my thigh, still bold as ever 40yrs later...I have had tattoo artists say I didn't do too bad of a job apparently, took me hours though. I just wanted to get back at my parents as I was never allowed over anyone's house ever and I thought my body was the one thing they couldn't control.
Sadly it’s still not much better - i worked at a ‘Shmichaels’ for a while up till 2019 and mostly teens came in looking for ‘tattoo’ ink🤦🏻♀️ Amazing we had spray paint locked up, but calligraphy inks got stolen all the time! Had one girl wanting to get the shimmery duochrome because she thought it would make an ‘amazing tattoo outline’ smh…
Yeah even on yt there's videos how tattoo yourself with a needle like bruh and even in the comments section there's people already complaining about itchy and stuff , mostly obviously dumb kids
I always take even small cuts seriously because my mom nearly had her leg amputated from a small scrape that got infected and started going septic. It's a lot more serious than people realize and can happen to anyone! It's so important to take care of any cuts/wounds on your body. This goes double for tattoos because you're literally putting foreign substances into your skin which increases the chances for infection via a number of different avenues. If you're ever questioning the cleanliness of a tattoo studio; RUN don't walk right out of there and find somewhere else.
It's terrible what this person has had to go through. She's lucky that it didn't end up worse :c
My friends aunt was walking around the mall when her flip flop broke and she walked around barefoot on one foot, she ended up contracting a flesh eating infection from a small cut on her foot and needed her toe and a chunk of foot amputated
YES! My Dad had a callus on the bottom of his foot, his job had him on his feet most of the day and he had flat feet/uneven walking sooo, callus. He would use pumice stone and things but then started clipping it away when he would clip his nails, once he cut it a bit too deep into that baby soft skin underneath. He didn’t think much about it, and went on a work trip. Came back sick as ever - turned out the cut on the foot and then using a hotel shower (the Dr believed) caused a staph infection/nearly septic to the point that they put in a central line and after 3/4 days in hospital sent him home with 2x a day IV antibiotics and a nurse came out every other day as well. Thankfully i’m a medical assistant and was able to help him with the IV and flush the line and wound cleaning etc! If he had been gone on the business trip one more day that callus may have killed him!
I saw Markie’s video about this the other day, and when I first saw the photos my immediate thought was “that looks like cellulitis”, and the symptoms she described sounded like it too. Years ago, I contracted cellulitis from a spider bite on my leg, and my calf looked very similar to hers (minus the tattoo).
Edited to add that I just got to the part where you talk about the markings, and the doctor did that on my leg too. You’re right, it is to see whether the swelling and redness has spread or shrunk.
I was living in South Korea at the time, and I’d been hiking in the woods with friends when I got bitten. I didn’t think anything of it until I got home and felt dizzy and nauseous. I assumed it was from the heat, until I looked down and saw that the bite on my leg had spread. A few hours later, it had almost covered my entire calf. It was about 1 or 2am by this point and I didn’t know what to do so I called my mum in the UK (she’s a dermatology nurse). She’s always been the type of person to say “it’s probably nothing. See how you feel in the morning”. But in this case she said “that sounds like cellulitis. Get to a hospital now!”
There were no English speaking doctors available, but they gave me an injection (I assume it was some kind of antibiotic), drew around the swelling, then sent me home and told me to come back later that day.
The doctor told me it was cellulitis and that it was a good thing I called my mum, because it could have developed into sepsis if left untreated.
I got cellulitis and sepsis from a cut on my hand in 2018. I started oral antibiotics 12 hours after the injury but they weren’t working well. It took me a couple days before I went to the ER and I ended up being hospitalized for two weeks. A month later, some bacteria that was trapped in my ankle joint released and the whole thing started all over again. Sepsis, two week hospitalization and surgery to irrigate my ankle joint. I was so incredibly sick. There is truly nothing like it. I felt like I was in a dream.
@@sarahg2665 That’s horrifying! I can’t imagine going through all that twice! I’m glad I called my mum and sought medical treatment so early, as I’ve heard so many stories like yours. I was worried when they sent me home, but because of the language barrier and the lack of hospital beds, I understood why they did, and I still got given antibiotics and seen by an English speaking doctor within 24 hours.
I got staph which became MRSA from a spider bite on my thigh. Some of the worst pain.
Interesting that your infection happened from a spider bite. Makes me wonder how common cellulitis after spider bites is as that could be why some species get falsely labeled as having deadly venom when there are only four where that's true.
@@feiradragon7915 The doctor actually said that it was likely a venomous spider, but that also there are no venomous spiders indigenous to Korea. Apparently there have been rare instances of these spiders entering the country in people’s luggage via countries like Thailand or Australia! I know it sounds far fetched, but I have a history of bad luck, so if anyone was going to get bitten by a venomous spider in a country they’re not native to, it would be me 😂
I started having reactions last year to saniderm(the secondskin stuff) and yes, that’s exactly what it looks like. Big ol square. Luckily it never messed up the tattoo itself because of the plasma being a barrier. I’m immunocomprised and have been working on a sleeve for about 2 years, my artist is so caring and always makes sure I’m okay. This dude is a complete scourge to the industry
I react to the saniderm too.....swollen red skin, skin peeling when I too it off. But the tattoos were fine. I have found cling film works for me.
@@roowyrm9576 we changed to cling film and it’s been great. Funny enough, I hadn’t actually used it before
I just noticed the axolotl plushies behind you, they’re so cute!!!
Your comment made me notice it, they’re so precious!
I just had my first ever tattoo infection last month and it was horrible. Luckily I had a friend that knew what to do and the shop advised me how to fight the infection. It's all healed up now but definitely needs a touchup. It was scary, I kept thinking about sepsis and how dangerous my infection truly was. I feel very fortunate that it healed easily and quickly once I started treating it.
2:50 only 1000£ fine for KILLING someone wow…
That’s because Europe is stupid as hell
Tattoo artist here - on the topic of Second Skin and reactions -
The adhesives in second skin and similar products can have a type of chemical reaction to the types of soaps used in some artists set up, for example I use green soap and if you do not clean the tattoo with rubbing alcohol (yes, I know that sounds awful but I promise the chemical reaction feels worse) before putting on any second skin or similar products, it can create a more severe red reaction around the tattoo (like the one on the right side of the second skin reaction photos - the olive branch I believe?) - BUT NEVER SWOLLEN LIKE THAT.
If it were the chemical reaction, it would be visible everywhere the soap was, and it wouldn’t swell like a golf ball in one spot. I’ve had this chemical reaction, the tattoo artist got distracted half way through cleaning the tattoo and it was almost divided in the middle where one side was cleaned before and the other wasn’t.
Just throwing that out there though in case anyone does get their own second skin, saniderm, recoveryderm or whatever else - be sure to wash well before you apply the bandage to remove any soap residue from the tattoo session, even in the areas surrounding where the adhesive will be! And ALWAYS DO A PATCH TEST! ❤️✨ away from your tattoo to make sure you aren’t allergic to those kinds of tattoo bandages!
And keep in mind if your tattoo artist says they don’t use it, you can ask why, or simply get your own, but there’s probably a reason!
P.S. it will rip your skin off and make it look like a peely sunburn for a few days if you use it on the wrong kind of soap! 😢
Tattoo artist here as well. Man I came to this same conclusion. It was the only thing that made sense. Wiping the whole area down with distilled water a few times has worked for me so far. Glad to confirm this more because I was thinking of doing a test on myself lol
That actually explains the one really bad experience I had with second skin! My artist put it on a tattoo on my arm, and when I took it off it literally peeled the skin off in places and was all red and irritated. I actually still have a scar outlining where the second skin was (though it's quite faint now, thankfully).
yikes! That’s amazing to know! I am allergic to some adhesives- found out after a major hip surgery at 12yo when they went to do the incision check/bandage change and i screamed bloody murder because they didn’t know they were taking most of my blistered skin with the tape😭 Talk about a nightmare! I can use second skin but usually let my artist know of the allergy and bring a brand i know i can use just in case. Oh, and i could Never Ever leave even the ‘good’ one on for more than 18/24 hours! Anything past that and my skin gets unhappy😂
Allergic reactions don't hurt super bad either, or at least none of mine ever did. Infections hurt.
As someone who got a lot of blackout on a leg piece there were two things OTHER than "just" the sanitation that stood out too. I'm just sharing this in case anyone is wanting to do it.
They did this in one sitting, that's a lot of trauma to the body at one time. Literal trauma, the body has to clear out that ink and heal that area. My large lower leg blackout took 12+ hours, we did 3 sessions. After the third sessions it did hurt to walk on my calf for 2 days (sore not pain).
It wasn't bad pain but it was sore like i had a workout because that area had a LARGE TRAUMA. And i had a couple very small areas like on my femur where the ink didn't stay as well. These are normal. And this was discussed and of course any areas that needed to be touched up after would be touched up, not being offered as an "extra"!
And, this was not my first heavier black tattoo, even though i had never had anything like this. This is opinion: I don't think that this amount of blackout/black work should be given to someone who has so little tattoo work that the sanitation didn't throw up a flag. This is a painful experience that you need to be in tune with your body to get through. But GOOD ON THIS WOMAN to go ahead and call urgent care anyway because she knew that she was sick. Some people would not until it was much later and that can be very dangerous.
Also yeah with the bruising i bruise really easily and i have bruising usually where they hold my arm/leg/etc while tattooing somewhere else. I am sorry VERY pale so both myself and a couple friends are very pale so we get redness around the tattoo but even though the tattoo is red it's a more "evenly red" and not that big red patch. THOUGH if you see any redness please let your tattoo artist know and if you are not sure at all then don't be afraid to let your doctor know
100% they shouldn't have done all of that in 1 day , I've been a tattoo artist for 16 years and have alot of work but when we blacked out my arm we did 3x sittings bc it will get to a point where there is to much trauma for 1 day and they did way to much .
All 3 of my 4 large calf tattoos were done in 2 sessions each (one was all one go) the day or 2 after each session it hurt to step too hard. Then it was fine. That was a lot of solid work to do in one go
@@Drummerchef13 I think people forget that on their own tattoos are wounds; even in ideal conditions your body can reject the ink or not heal correctly (I had to get a coverup because of this myself). It can hurt for a while if you get it on the muscle . You can pickup an infection for weeks from the public spaces around you (same freaking tattoo I got staph on a vacation). So if you have bad technique, bad product, and bad hygiene + who knows what else you've got just the process itself against you PLUS all of this extra crap.
It's not that they deserve it by any means but I think that we've made tattoos so common that the danger is downplayed
not sure about the uk or canada, but signing a waiver like this at a business in the US would absolutely not protect them from a gross negligence lawsuit
Telling her she has had a reaction. To 2nd skin is wild! I have used it 2x (1 for surgery and 1 for a tat) before infigured out that I am prob allergic. I get tiny blisters around the tat and the tat is fine. Nothing caused my whole arm to hurt and be so inflammed. The guy needs to be behind bars for inflicting such trauma with such negligence
10:06 that red line looks like already a sign of sepsis. If you ever see this get to an ER immediately
Perfect timing for a treacle tatts video as I'm snuggled on the sofa with my brand new tattoo 😊
Congrats on your new tattoo 🥳🫶🏻
Happy healing!!
Make sure to move about a bit, as getting the circulation up is good for systemic health to filter the lymph and blood channels! (I never healed so fast as when bicycling everywhere year-round in the early 1980’s; having given up cars out of frustration and putting that money into…more tattoos…completely my bodysuit in 1986.)
By the way, my artist, D.L. Nolan, 1938-2019, termed my cats as “mechanical contrivances.” Nolan loved his award winning antique cars and modern motorcycles, but also applauded my bicycle use, putting a wee bike on a finger.
So…Get Moving! And as Nolan would say, “Don’t leave your (new) tattoo in any bars!”
~ Willie
“cars,” not “cats” Typo!
Nolan lived with cats. I live with cats. Cats are good company and are better than cars!! Ha!
My artist owns his own shop without anyone else working with him. It's still a legal studio and has all the paperwork framed on the wall. He has the waiver ECT. It's not any different than any other shop. If it is, you don't let them tattoo you.
People used to die from sepsis. The tings got better just after antibiotics were discovered.
To reinforce the "second skin sensitivity" issued by tattoer: the glue may give allergy and subsequent contact dermatitis, but those come in the shape of the object you glued on.
I get a band aid shaped red area if I use the wrong kind of band aid. This do not spread and heals in a short amount of time, in a similar fashion of a pimple: gets less red, may have a dry dry skin period, itches like hell, leave a darker mark for some time and at the end completely disappear.
Nothing of what happened to the girl could ever seem like a contact dermatitis from second skin.
The “semi-occlusive bandage,” which came to tattooing in the 1990’s from medical wound dressing of second and third degree burns…are unnecessary. Whether you use adhesive-bordered sterile bandages or simply plastic wrap, more people are allergic to the TAPE or the ADHESIVE than to anything else.
Tattoos are not burns, they are very shallow abrasions done with sharp, sterile “bug pin” needles.Our bodies have no trouble with multi-hour sessions of extremely shallow abrasions. Our minds get tired of the process of feeling (manageable!) pain for hours. That’s what gives some of us the tattoo “shakes” after completing three, four, five or more hours of (intermittently!) “continuous” work. The actual number of minutes per hour of needle-in-skin is minuscule; you can time it! Your body is completely fine with the abrasion; it’s not a burn, a break, a deep puncture or a laceration!! It’s our minds which have trouble putting up with the discomfort and remaining still on a table or in a chair.
Just take your time, don’t push the sessions so much that doing so “works against you,” and LEARN to RELAX!!
It’s just a(nother) tattoo.
Don’t sweat the small stuff. Tattoos aren’t broken relationships, the death of dear pets, lost employment, major physical trauma, or mandatory. Pace yourself! Set some goals! Go on about your life!
Tattoos are the very least of the painful points in any human life!! Some people don’t even live long enough through childhood cancer to reach adulthood and get a tattoo! Keep that perspective!!
I am Willie Snyder.
I know.
People still die from sepsis all the time even with modern medicine
To this day people die of sepsis. It happens every other week in the hospital I work até...
People STILL die of sepsis
It is SO EASY to get a tattoo infection. I went to a lovely, reputable shop for the first time, but not my first tattoo. Excellent prep and sanitation. I used second skin for the first time and must've gotten a lil germ in there because I had an infection. The studio offered excellent advice and I went on antibiotics as soon as the red started spreading. The touch up healed perfectly. Be careful ya'll!
I'm not a clean freak by any means, but the thought of somebody being that grossly negligent (and also just gross) with something that is just a giant open wound essentially...that terrifies me
I've had multiple relatives almost die from infections like that
that artist is lucky no one has sued him (assuming no one has at this point)
This is literally my worst fear and why I’m so careful with who I go to. I really hope Maddie can get tattooed again and trust again
Omg after 7 yrs of saving up and researching I finally have my first ever tattoo session to start a sleeve in 10 days - the timing on this is not great for me lol😂💀
You can do it!! Read the good comments. Take care. Research. RELAX!!
You are in good company; almost half the population is tattooed now…
~ Willie
This is actually the best timing. You will remember to check that the place uses proper procedures and you know yo leave if something seems off.
The timing of this could save your life if it’s a bad artist, and you have more info to know what a good artist is! And as I’ve only just seen this video and your comment is a month old… how about an update on how it’s going?
I truly do not understand how these horrible people continuously get booked in the first place, and they all seem to have so many followers/exposure. I know they don't just turn horrible for just one client, they always have a history of being horrible. It's heartbreakingly frustrating when I myself can barely get one or two bookings a month (for the past 8 months): yet these horrible people...
I'm so glad Maddy is ok! Hope she gets some kind of healing from her trauma. That is so terrifying how quickly that got inflamed and red, and she got sick!
So SCARY.
Hope you get it fixed up and it hasn't ruined tattoos for you Maddy!! You seem like a lovely woman.
This is INSANE. All the red flags!
Everything I know about tattoos I learned from you really appreciate this channel
I survived sepsis after a tattoo, and still love tattoos 😊
Mine looked quite similar unfortunately whilst infected and I was diagnosed with cellulitis plus tested positive for staph aureus. I was in hospital for a week after being rushed to ER (with intense fatigue, nausea, fever, full body aches and delirium that developed in 24-48 hours after the tattoo), but the tattoo actually healed up incredibly well in the end, which probably speaks to the skill of my tattoo artist. And yes, the doctors drew the dotted lines around my inflammation sites too 😂
I don’t know where it went wrong- there were a couple of potential contamination opportunities in the studio that I can recall, but my understanding is that staph can also be part of our skin micro biome that becomes dangerous if it enters the bloodstream. I’ve since tried to stick to artists and studios whose processes I have observed and trust; asking if they mind taking extra care with skin prep and cleaning at the end; and I also choose to use Chlorhexidine body wash or similar before going in to get a tattoo. I’ve been able to continue getting large and heavily coloured tattoos without any issues so far.
Just sharing my experience, and hoping this helps people find a way to balance their love for tattoos alongside making personal decisions for their own health and safety ❤ I’m also so grateful for the swift health care I was able to receive, which no doubt saved my life.
oh damn, this video just upped my worries about some friends ... they recently got started tattooing each other and i am surprised nobody got infected yet ...
none of them take it seriously when i tell them that what they're doing is unsanitary and dangerous af and just go "yeah but we always use new needles :)" - as tho that were my concern and not the tattoing without gloves in our living room, on our rarely cleaned couch!? (not to mention the abhorrent quality of the tattoos themselves, but that's another conversation ...)
Take it from me, they will regret all of those tattoos. I went through the same thing when someone in our friend group got a tattoo gun from Amazon and started doing tattoos in my living room. Unfortunately, I even got one of hello kitty on my forearm and it has really not aged well. I’m so lucky that it healed correctly. That was about ten years ago, when I had just turned 19. My daughters love it because they’re five and don’t know any better 😂 but, I’m hoping to get it covered someday.
That tattoo is so infected omg. About second skin ,as someone who’s been tattooed for over ten years and has almost her full entire body covered , I wouldn’t recommend using second skin nor dermalize on the first day, it keeps the juices in keeping the skin overly moist which doesn’t help with pain nor healing, best to use a tattoo absorbing pad on the first night after a shower and air drying the tattoo and then either another pad the next day or dermalize depending on if there are still juices or not (there shouldn’t be much by now) or if it’s a very simple tattoo with not much colour you can just leave it be and then the day after that you can start applying stuff like tattoo ointments if you want but I don’t recommend cocoa butter because it causes painful pimples because it’s just too greasy and rich for silver skin/new skin
What you’re saying makes perfect sense!! I’ve personally been ok / prefer second skin and tbh only one artist I’ve been too in the past idk 5 years still doesn’t use second skin but you 100% got me thinking now 😂
@@treacletatts second skin uses the moist healing method which is a perfectly safe and reccomended for healing wounds now over dry healing (which was what was normal up until the 1960s)
The dressing is semi occlusive and allows vapor evaporation and breathability but doesn't allow microorganisms to pass.
It's best to change the second skin after you first get it so it's not super soupy. But using second skin for the entire duration of healing is very safe. The "over moisturization" is not a concern in its case, as it facilitates wound healing. ❤
@@Justinelucyyink gotcha!! Thanks for clearing that up!!
Your body knows how to heal simple abrasions, inclusive of minute amounts of finely ground foreign substances that we insist upon putting into the tiny punctures.
I’ve seen a lot of nonsense since receiving my first (small) tattoo in 1978, completing my bodysuit in 1986, adding to it, re-lining/re-coloring most of it in the 2010’s, and still getting tattooed (as recently as last year, 2023). You don’t need all the specialized nonsense. Keep it clean! Keep it dry as it wants (don’t soak it, swim with it, “moisturize” it)! Keep it out of the sun! Keep your fingers off it! Keep your friends’ fingers off it! Keep some physical activity in your life to circulate the bloodstream! Keep a good thought for how well your body already looks after what we do to our skin! Really, your body knows its business best!!
~ Willie
yea my first artist doesn't like second skin and i'm with her tbh, unless i have to do anything dirty/physically active right after being tattooed that i can't reschedule i'd rather just use pad bandages and let it dry out on its own
I really hope this poor girl gets some justice...that's so horrible. I hope no one else got injured from the work this monster did...
I’ve been DYING for you to cover this! 😍
It's funny, I'm a nurse, going for tattoo, very similar to setting up for wound care, and then tattoo wound care it helps I know how to take care of way worse wounds. Second skin is pretty much hospital tegaderm, which is awesome.
i think youre exactly right. before tiktok we didnt really have a platform for this kind of thing. we didnt have a platform for videos that wasnt youtube. vine was only 6 seconds, snapchat was only with friends, facebook posts could be public but rarely moved outside of friends, and instagram reels didnt come out until like 2020. we literally didnt have another place to make this short, personable videos. youtube maybe could have been used, but reach on a single video, from an unknown channel, wouldnt have gone too far.
I am so glad you are covering this, I saw this on Twitter but when I clicked the thread had been deleted, so I couldn't read anymore.
I am actually allergic to the adhesive in second skin and other medical tapes so I normally get plastic wrap around my tattoos
Oh dang, it didn't even occur to me that second skin would use medical adhesive. Not to be dramatic but you may have just saved my life lol (I have a severe allergy!)
@@lavieestbellexx I'm glad I could help! The nice thing is tattoo artist will have an option for something other than second skin because theres a good number of people allergic to it
I had a cat bite back in November that needed antibiotics. It hurt SO bad. I couldn't imagine that feeling on such a large part of my body. I feel so bad for her and I'm happy shes on a road to recovery.
I’m someone with very sensitive skin: I’m allergic to some brands of second-skin-type bandages, am prone to MARSI, and have even had mild allergic reactions to tattoo inks. So I feel pretty confident saying that while allergic reactions can be very serious and there is some crossover with the infection symptoms (dermatitis, itchiness, additional pain) there are a lot of differences and this person most definitely has an infection not a “reaction to the bandage”.
As an aspiring tattoo artist preparing my portfolio currently and I’ve known I wanted to tattoo since I was a kid. If I did this to someone the guilt would keep me up at night and going forward I would fully be OVERLY precautious when it comes to sanitation and care.
glad you covered this. i wasn’t able to read the thread before it was deleted!
this was a good reminder for me to wash off my new tattoo 😭 thank you for the new video, amazing as always!! ❤
I have always wanted tattoos. Years ago, a friend invited me to go with her for a piece so I could see how it goes. I met her at the studio and was immediately told I had to take my shoes off because of the snow outside and them doing Reno’s. The floor tiles were ripped up with jagged grout and bits of still stuck floor tiles…. I was barefoot in ballet flats. They were rude about me asking for paper towels. Told them it was not sage for me to walk barefoot around the place, and I’d dry my shoes to their satisfaction. They had not told my friend, so she was in her socks. They didn’t provide slippers or anything as a precaution. Then I watched as she was mid tattoo, getting her forearm done with it across the tufted pleather chair, no wrap down or anything. She was bleeding every so often…. The tufted parts of the chair thingy had reno dust build up caked into it… and her blood was mixing into it. I was horrified, and she was a nurse, and I was a hospital secretary. I couldn’t believe the health risks I could see that she was just cool with.
Needless to say, I never did end up risking getting a tattoo, because she was right, the place was a highly rated studio in our city, so if that was highly rated I was terrified to go anywhere and risk getting a tattoo.
Yeah I don't mind private studios either. My current artist who's done about 9 hours on my arm operates out of a private studio and it's suuuuper clean. It was a renovated post office. He's moving to a bigger private studio and bringing in other artists and gutted the location to rebuild. It's prob the cleanest studio I've ever seen tbh.
It shocks me how badly tattoo artists can mess up.
I only have one tattoo, plan on getting more one day, and my artist made me feel so safe. He was careful, constantly cleaned my arm and once I had my second skin on, there wasn't a single puddle or blood drop to be seen, it truly was a perfect job.
And I have to add, it wasn't a small tattoo either, it's my entire forearm and has black coloured spots.
To see just how bad it could get makes me low-key nauseous.
Diluting with tap water is crazy!! The second i saw that i would be out the door before they even made it back to the station.
Exactly a year ago my dad nearly died of sepsis. He was able to make a full recovery but there was a bit where we didn’t know if he would make it. It’s one of the most terrifying ways to die. Infections are extremely serious and scary, pls take them seriously
Thanks for giving us amazing videos even though your throat is causing you problems. We appreciate the struggle and wish you a fast recovery from your latest round of treatment ❤️
Thankyou for always bringing attention to these important matters! 😮
My artist as a pedestal to put people on when drawing on the legs, it's just a stainless steel square tool and it's sanitized just like the rest of the equipment.
I'm sorry, that price is insane!! I'm Canadian paying GTA prices (which I think are pretty similar to Vancouver) and I have two tattoos larger than that in a similar style that were $800 and $600... For that price I would have expected the absolute best quality, I'm so sorry she got THAT
Love your videos! Been watching for years and years now always look forward to a new one!!!!
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I wouldn’t say that it’s a tattoo artist being careless, it’s a popular scratcher. It’s insane how many people go to people who just work in a shed/ have a friend do it in unsafe settings. Remember tattoos are permanent. Researching someone extensively helps your money in the long run even if it pricier.
Both can be true. The artist did everything wrong and more.
How do you not see the artist as being careless? Completely genuine question because personally that infection seems like it could've been so easily avoided with some care
The story of the shed tattoo studio reminded me of how my ex came home one day from work, saying that he will get a tattoo from his coworker, me knowimg more about tattoos than jim, asked him if he has pics of stuff that she has done, it was atrocious and i told him so and i also domt think she would have been sanitary enough but he was mad at me for telling him that her tattoos are bad and that I dont recommend him to let her do it. Like I get it, its cheap and easy to get but I dont think its worth it. He didnt end up getting the tattoo, at least not while we were together, dunno what hes been up to since xD
So I found your channel last night, and I am hooked. Girl I have been binge watching since last night. Thank you for popping up, can't wait to see more!😊❤
like… touch ups are normally free for the first few months?? thats just normal protocol, not compensation. he should at LEAST pay for the medical costs incurred. it’s Canada, its not like they’re that extensive - meds, hospital transport, and time off would be basic respect imo. hell, my go-to artist comped my session (relatively short, but still $150-$200 including tip) because the shop manager called me a slur.
I had a reaction to second skin, when I realized I had an issue I contacted my tattoo artist and he suggested taking it off and just wrapping it old school. I have super sensitive skin and never had it used before (was at an artists shop I hadn’t been to but knew him through my husband/high school). Pretty sure my husband is allergic to the ink.
ooooo love the new art on the end card 🤩
I am not the type of person to get dizzy from looking at pictures or hearing stories. Stuff irl, that gets me. But pictures or listening to someone's story doesn't usually make me feel faint. This did. I fully felt faint and dizzy watching this video. wtf that is horrific. I wish I could say "I can't believe that happened", but I can totally believe it happened and that makes it even worse.
I love your videos lauren!! You always have such a comforting energy❤
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That spiritbox from wish bit cracked me up.
Hey Lauren, I love the "new" ending - the drawing of you is absolutely gorgeous and even the necklace is on display! So good 😍
I live just outside of Vancouver and go into the city for all my tattoos and am always looking for new artists to get pieces from. This is so scary to me 😭 I also have a lot of friends who absolutely I could see ending up in this exact situation from being newer to tattoos and are very trusting and I'm always so scared they'll get into a situation like this.
Also a fellow vancouverite! So awful
I’m sorry your throat is hurting so much but I’m so glad to hear you got the Botox treatment done! I remember you mentioning a number of months ago about how you needed the Botox but had to schedule v far in the future. I hope that your throat calms down and that the Botox does what it’s supposed to for your RCPD. 💗
Can someone tell us who they think it might be in Van? There are so many tattoo artists with private studios! I need to know to avoid him
Our tap water is clean, but not sterile!!! They definitely should be using distilled water for that!!!
I just got a new tattoo about 4 days ago, and am set up to get another one in a couple days, and your videos have made me so hyper aware of what is happening in the studios, and I am so grateful for it. I can't imagine how horrible it must be to go through something like that, and to still end up with a shitty looking permanent reminder of how you could have died.
Any time I go to get a tattoo I'll always think of your vids Lauren, much love and thanks 💕✨
Sadly there's are lot of tattoo artists like that guy or maybe not that bad but still. I'm blessed with my new tattoo artist, so happy that I'm getting a new tattoo each month. Excellent service.
Hope you continue to do this type of videos exposing bad tattoo "artists"
I've never had to sign a waiver anywhere and I've been tattooed both in Denmark and on Gran Canaria. I don't know if it's different from country to country. These days I see the same tattoo artist everytime and he's on point with everything when it comes to wrapping equipment and himself, keeping everything clean, etc.
This makes me so happy my tattoo artist is 1000000 percent above board on EVERYTHING.
OMG love the new artwork at the end of your video!
The axolotl shrine!? hello??? im in love with your plushies
Recently saw a poster in town of flash tattoos designs for quite cheap, couldn’t read the name and there was studio attached just qr code. Definitely suspicious of it esp. when there are reputable studios around.
Tattoo infections are terrifying.
Hope you feel better
And the end credit art is awesome 👏🏻 ❤
The price?! The price?! Omg
Hooooly shit this is insane. Ive given myself a few tattoos (i was young and stupid, please dont tattoo yourself) and even Dumb Teenage Me did better sanitization than this guy. I feel so bad for Maddie, hope she's okay :( this sounds actually traumatic
Quick bit on waivers: You cannot actually sign away basic rights of protection. There is an assumption that whomever provides a service is also providing a base level of safety. A user of their services is not expected to be an expert on the service and its dangers. While something like stating "you are responsible if the tattoo comes out misspelled" is fine, saying "you are responsible if you get sick/die from the tattoo" is not a right you can sign away.
On an unrelated note, I love your axolotl plushies! They're my spirit animal! 💕✨
I had a tattoo get infected once.
Now, it was definitely MY FAULT. The exposure happened after it was done, and came from my very elderly dog. I was feeling very ill after I got home, and my elderly dog climbed on me when I was too weak to fend him off. Definitely my fault.
But what got me was the artist's reaction to it...
I messaged him pictures of it being very obviously infected since he'd said to do so. It didn't look like this woman's tattoo, the scab of the tattoo was raised and you could see puss underneath. Like a giant ant bite or something. He was convinced it wasn't infected, and told me to leave it. I even told him I didn't think it was his fault, I thought it came from my dog who occasionally had staph on his skin. He still denied anything was wrong, and said to let it heal.
Yeah, I went to my doctor and had it cultured, it was staph.
I don't go to that artist anymore, needless to say. He's a great artist, his shop is clean, but if I were a person who doesn't have a regular GP and health insurance, it would have been very bad. That's what bugs me the most about the whole thing. I can admit that I did something really dumb, but for him to continue to tell me it was fine even after I had it cultured and knew it wasn't... that's dangerous. He straight up told me the culture was wrong because the tattoo didn't fall out...
I was on antibiotics for weeks. I was almost admitted to the hospital. Like... what???
I can't understand NOT saying, "Yeah, that looks a bit hinky. You have health insurance? Go see your GP or urgent care about that."
Why do you ask clients to let you know if anything seems wrong if you're just going to gaslight them? And I already had plenty of tattoos by this time, so it's not like this was my first rodeo and I'd be worried about any little old thing.
So, yeah. If you think something is wrong, go to a doctor. At worst, you're out $50-$100 for urgent care to say you're fine. I'd say it's worth it.
When did you start doing a horror story podcast? 😬 Definitely scary stuff, and I'm glad it didn't turn out worse! Also, love the new outro! 😊
Thanks for keeping safety at the forefront of our minds and working for us with your throat hurting! Rest up and I hope it helps soon! ❤
Well we are 4 months away from October 👀👻😂
Thanks Josh 🫶🏻
Love your hair! You rock so many styles 🥰
Loving tattoos, and then getting it looking like sheeeeit, or getting an infection really sucks…..
But passing away from that passion is scarier than men and bears combined 😭😭😂
Medical worker here, yes the marking is to see if it progresses and spreads…..
And that tat artist almost ended his clients life, she’s lucky she didn’t end with amputation 😮
That infection looks so amazingly painful.
i saw that tweet yesterday too! i kept thinking it couldn't get any worse.. but it did
This is so scary 😢 I hope she is okay. I've had several bad times with my tattoos that have terrified me alone, without an infection, so I can only imagine how scared she must have been 💔 I have several big pieces from a professional I've gone to several times and even after those sessions my piece will usually be red/purple and appear bruised wherever I was tattooed and that scares me. Also, the A&D that he uses seems to make my skin break out in little bumps as it heals. The second skin I have had has given me hives before but thankfully I was able to get in under control with cortisone cream and just cleaning it and moisturizing it. I would also take Benadryl and ice it and elevate my leg. It's so much I have to do as it heals but I really hope she is okay 😢
It's just wild, how would you fix that? Like it's huge and black work with scarring probably
Always listen to your gut; your intuition always knows long before your conscious logic does. Question your intuition after you've escaped the danger, not after you've already made yourself victim to the danger. The girl said she felt nervous about going, that should have been right where she turned around.
Edit: not blaming her, just wanting people to learn from someone else's mistake rather than making it themselves