theocracy theonomy and the 7 mountains of influence: with Dr. Michael Brown
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- Опубліковано 27 лип 2024
- theocracy theonomy and the 7 mountains of influence: with Dr. Michael Brown
Dr. Michael Brown came on the show this week to discuss the biblical worldview of government.
We discussed
1) How should Christians biblically support President Trump, who seems to have divided morals?
2) theocracy: a system of government in which priests rule in the name of God or a god.
3) Theonomy: the state of an individual or society that regards its own nature and norms as being in accord with the divine nature.
4) 7 Mountains of influence: is a missiological position of the church, that is directed toward moral and cultural reformation of religion, family, education, government, media, arts & entertainment, and business.
How much should Christians get involved in government? What is the responsibility of an American Christian? Should Christians try and implement levitical legislation or should Christians merely "influence" culture? We discussed this and so much more with Dr. Michael Brown. Hope you enjoy
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Josh Lewis' Church Kings Fellowship Church
kingsfellowshipchurch.com/
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Michael Miller's Church Reclamation Church
reclamationdenver.com/
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Most excellent! I'm not really charismatic and I've always heard non-profit charismatic groups talk negatively about 7 mountain teaching but Dr brown really breaks it down and it makes perfect sense.
Jorge Anido agreed. I have not appreciated the 7 mountains stuff in the past. Dr Brown was very generous with their position. I totally agree with the way he presented it.
Always thankful for a great discussion on Remnant Radio!
Herein lies a fundamental problem: We parade the rich and famous and think by converting them others will be converted. This is not true body life and working of the Holy Spirit. Paul tells us not many of these famous/wealthy/wise will be converted and in no way are we to show them any more preference over any other member. He also tells us that all in the body have gifts and it will only be as the body acts like a body and shows preference to the smallest and most insignificant will true unity in the Holy Spirit and a true witness to the world be achieved.
Donald Trump is confessing Christ boldly and plainly, unlike any president in US history. His greatest offense in three years is calling the press liars and fakes, calling it just like it is. This is not about Trump "the rich and famous." This is about a courageous man offering up himself in every way Christians should appreciate on policy.
There are the promises to the nation of Israel that have yet to be fulfilled.
Dr. Brown is spot on - I would like to hear him defend the 2nd Amendment and attack US voting irregularities.
I believe that God is now shaking America through the Coronavirus.
According to the gospel I heard so often back in the 1980's, it is easier for a camel to pass through a needle's eye than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God. As I understand it, the meaning of that can be deduced in two primary ways: A) Camel is a poor interpretation of the original term, which may refer to rope, or other twisted fiber or cable, far too big to be passed through a literal sewing needle's eye. Or: B) Perhaps the 'needle's eye' refers to a relatively narrow passage, such as in many Egyptian-style pyramids, which can be as narrow as 2ft×3ft, and the camel is literal. Either way, it is supposed to be, by all sense and purposes, impossible. It is presented in the gospel as a fact, and a warning. I know there is the well-known disclaimer that nothing is impossible with God. However, I also know that if I choose to go take a long walk off a short pier, and the water temperature is 29°F, with an air temperature of 2°F, and a wind speed greater than 40mph, and I don't have a parka, I should not automatically expect God to save me. Why is the statement regarding a rich person's prospects not propagated with the same vigor and sense of urgency in these times as it was just scant years ago? I grew up in the "Bible belt", and the warning about rich men, camels, and needle's eyes had about as much consensus as global warming currently does among U.S. government climate scientists. It was strong. But the 'prosperity gospel' is racing in to fundamentally change America and the world. Is it the way to go? I don't think so. It seems self-serving to me. The product of human construct and wishful thinking. Here's a hypothetical: Let's say I lucked out and inherited a handsome chunk money at an early age, and I found reputable brokers and watched it turn into a fortune over the course of twenty years. To this hypothetical me it seems perfectly fine to possess eight cars(not like Christine!!!), a plane, four houses which sit empty most of the year, 32 maids/chauffeurs/housekeepers, etc.. Let's say I pay four of them decently, and the other 28 part time, at $13/hr.? I create primarily temporary, penny-ante jobs, so should I be praised? Are the facts that my four houses temporarily created jobs for people, and my eight cars did too(again, temporarily), enough right there to earn a place for yours truly in heaven? Did my brokers gain a ticket to heaven as well because they enabled what I listed above, plus other monetary things of which I my hypothetical self is unaware, and also because a very tiny fraction of the returns on my investment through them went into the hiring of one of my housekeepers who would have had to couch-surf for two weeks had I not hired him? Continuing: When I reserve a V.I.P. section at a major sporting arena for myself and 15 of my family members for $2,500,000.00 this year, should that in itself enough to get into heaven, because it did so much good keeping the economy going? Should I, because I transact so much more monetary value than the 'average' person in my respective economy, merely lifting my pinky finger and conducting a six-figure transaction on my PC, have more favor with the Creator, and also more clout in society? More say in everything that goes on as far as policy, because of all those things listed above? It's the economy, stupid! I hear that all the time. IS THE ECONOMY OUR NEW KING? Those are some serious questions. Away from the hypothetical now. I just want to ask: What is happening? Who's behind the P.T. Barnumizing of modern religion? Why was The Greatest Showman performed at my local megachurch about three years ago? I will not mention the regional church conglomerate by name, but as of last year it was fourth largest in the nation in terms of membership. The Greatest Showman. Why is there such rapid movement in our country toward a prosperity gospel? It's just so weird and backward-feeling! These guys in this video are rational and refreshing, and they give me hope that just about everything I learned in church before 1995 is NOT yet entirely gone; rejected, discarded, erased. I'm one of those people who hear President Trump talk, and think to myself that over the past 30 years our great country's mantra has shifted away from something like: "Everything I really needed to know I learned in kindergarten." And toward: "Everything I really needed to know I learned playing Hungry, Hungry, Hippos." Essentially, it feels like the current religious message sweeping the nation is some purported mandate from God to all of us, instructing us to compete against each other with MAXIMUM fierceness, and then donate to charity at the grocery check-out and boyscouts+girlscouts and/or at the end of the year in order to get a tax break, making sure to place your own family #1, wave our national flag at every opportunity, join the "proper" political party, and so on. A most riteous life. It reads like a NEW POLITICAL CORRECTNESS. You know? The message goes on to say that it is ideal for the common laborer to work 70 hours a week via multiple jobs so there is no overtime(Owners take a bigger cut across-the-board that way), even though doing so deprives someone else of a job, because it is one's PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY to want it more than someone else, if not for oneself, then for one's family, and it is right to BE BEST and battle for leverage 'tooth and nail', and if one can beat all competition out and win, one is assumed to be in favor with God. God apparently wants an extremely competitive labor market, right? A nation of fighters. Warriors in all aspects of life. Battle, battle, battle! I have heard it described as an order from God to each individual to forge within his/herself the HEART OF A CONQUEROR. To dominate and claim territory in all aspects of life both literally and figuratively. One is also encouraged to at least partially credit Jesus and/or God publicly, and often, especially at work, for all success. The message continues: Those who cannot find work are clearly not trying hard enough. Those who earn low wages can always earn more if they put forth sufficient effort. No one is disadvantaged. Everything is exactly as it should be, except that no tax is low enough, naturally. That, and there must be absolutely zero pressure on wages and unions should all be dissolved eventually. Does this message sound familiar? I hear it often, and it is supposedly God's message, according to prosperity gospel-type people like Trump & Co., and others who are seating themselves in positions of power at all levels of society. It looks very much like the scaffolding of a budding Theocracy to me. Really more like Theocratic Oligarchy. The message being pounded out day after day in my 'neck of the woods' is that proper living is to approach life like you're playing Hungry Hungry Hippos all day, every day, relentlessly, with a Gideon in our pocket to read during five minute breaks. I see an effort to reimagine society as so competitive, so complicated, so fast-paced, that eventually only the quickest, strongest, smartest, most 'attractive', and malleable people among us will even want to participate, and the 'losers' can be naturally weeded out(according to God's supposed plan, of course). Our President has mused about I.Q. quite often. And about the importance of people's genes, like he did earlier this month at a rally in Minnesota. And about looks, on countless occasions. Our creator wants only the best, right? Is that God's plan, or that of the NEW SOCIAL DARWINISTS? Anyone sense a finger of unease move down the ol' spine yet? Sometimes I just get so creeped out!
Is this the same '7 mountains' of the New Apostolic Reformation?
Who cares? Its the mentality of the church influencing society. It is the mandate of every believer to carry their faith into their sphere of cultural influence. Anti-NAR propaganda blinds people to simple truth.
@@lightlover33 except it's not biblical and minimizes the call of the believer from the 2 great commandments to 'taking on' the institutions of men. Christ is the Cornerstone that destroys the image of Nebuchadnezzar, not ignorant sheep leaving their first love in an attempt to take over what they were not called to do.
I don't think dr Brown wants to address the NAR.
Can you do one on biden? It’s June 2022 and I feel america is falling apart
I don't know anyone that believes that Trump is a savior; rather, many believe and can see that Trump stands up to the powers at be. I personally admire his willingness to stand against the evil.
Michael Brown....zero cred! He’s a charismaniac and his opinions are obvious.
Oh and.....nice ear gear. Grow up.
Hopefully one day you will learn to love another brother in Christ, the way Christ loves the Church.
you... a bitter, ignorant hack... have nothing to say about Dr. Brown.
@@storyofscripture I hope I can as well.