Shane, you need to start doing your homework before doing these reviews. The EBL feature is one of the most crucial features with these new valerion projectors and you just glossed over it, and appears you have left it off for the whole review. Please find some nice low APL scenes to test with EBL off and on and then provide your feedback. Also use the spears and munsil disk to test the dynamic tone mapping, or at least a good scene with very bright highlights like white clouds on a sunny day kind of thing
He clearly didn’t know what he was doing SMH. I wouldn’t doubt it if the same day he made the video was when he actually turned on the projector. Instead of using it for days or weeks so he can actually u destined the settings, etc. another useless UA-camr making reviews.
@Xstream718 it's clear he had no desire to actually review it, learn about it, and has no clue of its potential. It's just another Chinese projector to him and not interesting because it's not high end gear. It is also clear the first time he looked at the projector was in this video. I get that his channel is not his full time job, but he could still spend a couple afternoons with it, trying out the different features on different content
The ultra sharp mode doesn't "give you the sharpest image possible digitally". The ultra sharp mode toggles the optical actuator to either display 2 million or all 8 million pixels on screen - it is NOT digital.
I wish Valerion had lent you the Pro 2. It has higher lumens and higher native contrast. The Max has an optical zoom, vertical lens shift and dynamic iris.
Hello Shane, did you have the ultra sharp mode on that is what makes it a 4K pixel shifter? If not, this would review would have been done in 1080P? I would also like to know in the comparison shot if you had dynamic tone mapping the ebl and the 4K Ultra sharp mode engaged. If those items were not engaged then it's really not an accurate representation of what the projector is capable of. But any case for $2,000. I imagine you were impressed. I wish you were given the pro 2 model which is next in line to their flagship which has more contrast than lumens and an optical zoom
Yeah, I bet the EBL function, which is the main selling point of this projector, was off the entire video. He didn't acknowledge it when he was at the laser section on settings, and probably didn't know what it does.
@@jpbonadioyeah he didn't. On the original video that I saw when he was showing guardians of the Galaxy content. He actually toggled it off and said he preferred it that way which is puzzling since he's a JVC guy and loves black levels and that literally like triples the black level
Can you make statements regarding the projection ratio of the max version? Can you project larger images (e.g.120-130 inch) at short distances (e.g. 10-13 feet) than with the Sony or JVC?
@@cordcuttercam Ultra Sharp Mode: Valerion’s name for the XPR module responsible for delivering the 8.3 million pixels of 4K resolution. Like the AWOL Vision UST projectors, this feature can be enabled or disabled, allowing the Plus 2 to function either as a pure 1080p projector or a pixel-shifted 4K projector. This is particularly useful for achieving 1:1 pixel mapping when watching 1080p content. Cool feature, as it ensures optimal sharpness and accuracy for Full HD content. Here is the difference.
Any chance you'll be comparing the Valerion to the newly released XGMI Horizon S Max, JMGO N1S Ultimate and Hisense C2. I'm preparing for the reality check sales on Black Friday.
0:38 Not sure if anyone noticed… This Valerion is suppose to be the Plus 2 since it’s the white version. However, I noticed that on the bottom it says Model No. VisionMaster Pro 2. 🤔
So, the way I see this, the Plus 2 already is a serious contender for the JVC NZ8 (which is 10x the price) ?? The Pro 2 or Max must really make JVC shit their pants then ...
I really wish one of these low cost laser projector manufacturers would come out with a long throw version. I sit 10ft from my 100 inch screen and don’t want a projector in my peripheral vision when I’m watching content. Great video as always!
@@juniorniebles6048 The throw ratio of both the Pro2 and the Max is only 0.9-1.5:1 which means the furthest I could place the projector lens back and still get a 100 inch image would be about 10ft 10.5 inches. I need at least 13 ft back.
I have a 150 in screen for 5 years now. Next upgrade is the Apple Vision Pro googles, 3D, eye-tracking, I can be sitting in a plane and feel like I'm outdoors! ---- Apple Music lossless quality
Why did you take the video down and delete my comments? You didn't correct the Ultra Sharp Mode which engages the XPR shift for 4k, instead you state "Ultra sharp mode will fine tune the sharpness" which is not a correct statement. Ultra sharp mode off = 1080p, Ultra sharp mode on = 4k. I do not trust that you evaluated this projector fairly since you don't seem to know how to change it from 1080p to 4k.
@@therealshanelee So you had Ultra Sharp Mode on or off when evaluating? In the video you do not describe it correctly and you appear to have it off which would mean you were watching a 1080p picture. Video was live yesterday and I pointed this out that's who I am.
Great review as always Shane, but I'm certain you didn't unlock all of the best picture options available on the Plus 2 to make it a fair fight against the JVC...( a little embarrassment maybe ) but I'm positive that when the Max comes out, JVC and Sony are dead in the water...
This is THE best this projector looks against the JVC. I’ve had it for a month. I know how to set it up. There is literally NO $1500 DLP projector that is beating the JVC. There are levels and this one isn’t on the JVC’s. I’m not gonna glow about it and get anyone’s hopes up. There are other channels that will do that. People need to get their expectations in check.
@@therealshanelee Saying that a $1,500.00 projector isn't going to beat a $15,000.00 projector isn't exactly breaking news. Can you please answer if you had Ultra Sharp Mode set to on (4k) or if you had it set to off (1080p) when evaluating the projector. Also can you please answer if you evaluated with EBL on or off? EBL is the selling point of this projector as Valerion has posted a video measuring this mode at 15,000:1 which could make it compete a lot closer to the JVC than you are giving it credit for but we need to know if this mode is accurate and invisible or if you can see it pumping or flickering in real content.
@@DLPHomeCinema did I not say it was close to the JVC? And NO it's not invisible when it's on. I know I own it. Is Ultra Sharp Mode on? Did you even watch the video? Some of you guys like to make up your own narratives in your mind. It's humorous.
@@therealshanelee can we have a normal conversation without you snapping at me? I will have the Pro 2 very soon as I am one of the beta testers, just asking questions no reason to be offended. So in your opinion EBL isn't a good option and that's why you kept it off?
Shane, you need to start doing your homework before doing these reviews. The EBL feature is one of the most crucial features with these new valerion projectors and you just glossed over it, and appears you have left it off for the whole review. Please find some nice low APL scenes to test with EBL off and on and then provide your feedback. Also use the spears and munsil disk to test the dynamic tone mapping, or at least a good scene with very bright highlights like white clouds on a sunny day kind of thing
He clearly didn’t know what he was doing SMH. I wouldn’t doubt it if the same day he made the video was when he actually turned on the projector. Instead of using it for days or weeks so he can actually u destined the settings, etc. another useless UA-camr making reviews.
@Xstream718 it's clear he had no desire to actually review it, learn about it, and has no clue of its potential. It's just another Chinese projector to him and not interesting because it's not high end gear. It is also clear the first time he looked at the projector was in this video. I get that his channel is not his full time job, but he could still spend a couple afternoons with it, trying out the different features on different content
@@t-rex1480 1000% agree.
@@t-rex1480 Since it wasn’t a JVC or Sony, he didn’t throw on the spears and munsil video and check out it’s tone mapping capabilities.
The ultra sharp mode doesn't "give you the sharpest image possible digitally". The ultra sharp mode toggles the optical actuator to either display 2 million or all 8 million pixels on screen - it is NOT digital.
Valerion’s head engineer already mentioned on the Facebook group that 3D isn’t working right now. It should be working within 2-3weeks
That's good news. I have several 3D blu-rays which I haven't watched in years.
How would you describe the fans? Are they loude? Great review!
From what I understand, it is the autodetection of frame-packed hdmi content that is the issue and full-res 3D is expected to be available soon
That's what I've been told. They're working on it.
I wish Valerion had lent you the Pro 2. It has higher lumens and higher native contrast. The Max has an optical zoom, vertical lens shift and dynamic iris.
Hi, did you need to do any calibration and have you been able to measure the contrast and other values? Thank you
I am waiting for the max
Same here
Can’t wait that long. Got the Pro 😅
Hello Shane, did you have the ultra sharp mode on that is what makes it a 4K pixel shifter? If not, this would review would have been done in 1080P? I would also like to know in the comparison shot if you had dynamic tone mapping the ebl and the 4K Ultra sharp mode engaged. If those items were not engaged then it's really not an accurate representation of what the projector is capable of. But any case for $2,000. I imagine you were impressed. I wish you were given the pro 2 model which is next in line to their flagship which has more contrast than lumens and an optical zoom
Yeah, I bet the EBL function, which is the main selling point of this projector, was off the entire video. He didn't acknowledge it when he was at the laser section on settings, and probably didn't know what it does.
@@jpbonadioyeah he didn't. On the original video that I saw when he was showing guardians of the Galaxy content. He actually toggled it off and said he preferred it that way which is puzzling since he's a JVC guy and loves black levels and that literally like triples the black level
Seems like no answer is our answer. Shame they wasted this review sample on someone who didn't spend any time learning about it.
Another useless UA-camr review 🤦🏻♂️
@@DLPHomeCinema you get no answer because he knows that he screwed up and didn’t even have the EBL on SMH.
Did you have the game mode enabled when playing games? surprised you still noticed the lag
My question is, should I upgrade from a JVC RS540. The RS 540 is only 1080P with 130,000 to 1 native contrast. But only 1900 lumens bright.
Can you tell, how it holds up against the BenQ W 4000i ?
The zoom on the higher end models is optical not digital so shouldn't affect resolution?
When will you get the Valerion Vision Master Pro2 for testing?
How would you compare this to the AWOL 3500?
Can you make statements regarding the projection ratio of the max version?
Can you project larger images (e.g.120-130 inch) at short distances (e.g. 10-13 feet) than with the Sony or JVC?
You saw pixels close up, was it in 1080p mode or 4K?
Dude you are everywhere 🤣 , the projector Is 4K dude
Certainly wouldn't be fair to compare it in 1080p.
@@cordcuttercam Ultra Sharp Mode turns on 4k shift, it appears in the video he has it off which means the projector was set to 1080p.
@@cordcuttercam Ultra Sharp Mode: Valerion’s name for the XPR module responsible for delivering the 8.3 million pixels of 4K resolution. Like the AWOL Vision UST projectors, this feature can be enabled or disabled, allowing the Plus 2 to function either as a pure 1080p projector or a pixel-shifted 4K projector. This is particularly useful for achieving 1:1 pixel mapping when watching 1080p content. Cool feature, as it ensures optimal sharpness and accuracy for Full HD content. Here is the difference.
@@cordcuttercam not if Ultra Sharp Mode is off then it is 1080p.
Great video. How do the black levels compare to an OLED TV? so how far off are the black levels?
Does the Max version also use DLP 4k upscaling or is it native?
You mentioned it held up pretty well against the NZ8, any thoughts on comparisons to an NZ7?
Some nice high quality footage and very detailed menu walkthru. Thanks!
in the jvc comparison what was the setting for EBL?
I bet it was off. He didn't acknowledge it in the entire video, and EBL is the main feature of this projector.
Do you find Apple homekit setup in the settings?
What screen are you using that looks amazing?
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Any chance you'll be comparing the Valerion to the newly released XGMI Horizon S Max, JMGO N1S Ultimate and Hisense C2. I'm preparing for the reality check sales on Black Friday.
Comparision videio
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Is Android TV 12 the same as Google TV?
Is this true 4k or pixel shift?
You're not gonna find a true 4K unit for under $6K.
0:38 Not sure if anyone noticed… This Valerion is suppose to be the Plus 2 since it’s the white version. However, I noticed that on the bottom it says Model No. VisionMaster Pro 2. 🤔
It's a Plus 2 and engineering sample. The parts were interchangeable.
@@therealshanelee Oh I know it’s a Plus 2 engineering sample. I just caught that on the bottom and found it weird.
So, the way I see this, the Plus 2 already is a serious contender for the JVC NZ8 (which is 10x the price) ?? The Pro 2 or Max must really make JVC shit their pants then ...
Is a DLP rainbow effect visible?
Did you even watch the review...?
I really wish one of these low cost laser projector manufacturers would come out with a long throw version. I sit 10ft from my 100 inch screen and don’t want a projector in my peripheral vision when I’m watching content. Great video as always!
THE STEP UP PRO 2 MODEL HAS OPTICAL ZOOM SO IT WOULD GIVE YOU MORE PLACEMENT OPTIONS TO HAVE IT FURTHER BACK WITH OUT HURTING PICTURE QUALITY
@@juniorniebles6048 The throw ratio of both the Pro2 and the Max is only 0.9-1.5:1 which means the furthest I could place the projector lens back and still get a 100 inch image would be about 10ft 10.5 inches. I need at least 13 ft back.
I have a 150 in screen for 5 years now.
Next upgrade is the Apple Vision Pro googles, 3D, eye-tracking, I can be sitting in a plane and feel like I'm outdoors!
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Apple Music lossless quality
Why did you take the video down and delete my comments? You didn't correct the Ultra Sharp Mode which engages the XPR shift for 4k, instead you state "Ultra sharp mode will fine tune the sharpness" which is not a correct statement. Ultra sharp mode off = 1080p, Ultra sharp mode on = 4k. I do not trust that you evaluated this projector fairly since you don't seem to know how to change it from 1080p to 4k.
That video was meant for Valerion to watch and approve. Changes were made after they saw it and approved it for accuracy. I have no idea who you are.
@@therealshanelee So you had Ultra Sharp Mode on or off when evaluating? In the video you do not describe it correctly and you appear to have it off which would mean you were watching a 1080p picture. Video was live yesterday and I pointed this out that's who I am.
And on top of that he probably let the EBL feature off the entire video. EBL is what makes this projector special.
Thanks
DLP projector always getting dead pixel sooner or later...that's the problem I have with DLP..
Great review as always Shane, but I'm certain you didn't unlock all of the best picture options available on the Plus 2 to make it a fair fight against the JVC...( a little embarrassment maybe ) but I'm positive that when the Max comes out, JVC and Sony are dead in the water...
This is THE best this projector looks against the JVC. I’ve had it for a month. I know how to set it up. There is literally NO $1500 DLP projector that is beating the JVC. There are levels and this one isn’t on the JVC’s. I’m not gonna glow about it and get anyone’s hopes up. There are other channels that will do that. People need to get their expectations in check.
@therealshanelee I hear you, but I hope you review the Max when it comes out 🤞🙏
@@therealshanelee Saying that a $1,500.00 projector isn't going to beat a $15,000.00 projector isn't exactly breaking news. Can you please answer if you had Ultra Sharp Mode set to on (4k) or if you had it set to off (1080p) when evaluating the projector. Also can you please answer if you evaluated with EBL on or off? EBL is the selling point of this projector as Valerion has posted a video measuring this mode at 15,000:1 which could make it compete a lot closer to the JVC than you are giving it credit for but we need to know if this mode is accurate and invisible or if you can see it pumping or flickering in real content.
@@DLPHomeCinema did I not say it was close to the JVC? And NO it's not invisible when it's on. I know I own it. Is Ultra Sharp Mode on? Did you even watch the video? Some of you guys like to make up your own narratives in your mind. It's humorous.
@@therealshanelee can we have a normal conversation without you snapping at me? I will have the Pro 2 very soon as I am one of the beta testers, just asking questions no reason to be offended. So in your opinion EBL isn't a good option and that's why you kept it off?
no optical zoom...skip. at almost $2k msrp, just add $100 lens.
Go for the pro 2 with optical 0.9 to 1.5 zoom
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