Snowboard Stance Setup Pro Tip / Angles & Width Interplay
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Video description / background:
Setting up your snowboard stance is quite a thing... The options are seemingly infinite, and there are so many opinions on this subject.
As always, following the biomechanics of your own body and basic physics will get you much closer to a FUNCTIONAL stance for your riding style than any trend, hype or general opinion.
Here's a guideline on how your stance width and your binding angles are connected and together create what I would call the PERCEIVED stance width.
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Once again , excellent analysis ! I never considered the distance between my heels , very clever ! Your approach is so refreshing and totally logical in my books ! Kudo Lars !
Ha, that makes me very happy to read this!! :-)
Thank you so much for the compliment, and again, I'm glad you could appreciate this content!!
you have to be the only guy on yt who knows how snowboards (and skis) actually turn and how physics and ergonomics work. perfect tip
Hahahaha, that's funny! Nah, there are other people who know. They just don't talk about it. Snowboarding has been regarded a fashion show for the last 2.5 decades. As long as you're cool, you're doing it right! Hahaha... ;-)
I never really thought about how stance angle effects the distance between your heels or toes, and the pressure points from edge to edge. It’s pretty obvious now that I think of it, thank you for the insight!
Finally, a wise approach! I'm tired of that "keep it 30 degrees" mantra. Thank you.
Someone says keep it 30 degrees??
I started riding in the 90s. My first board was fairly narrow and I have big feet so I had it set with my back foot +9 and my front foot +15. That’s just what I learned and got comfortable with. It was a longer board for the time and I just wanted to go downhill fast, didn’t really care about riding switch much. I went to a local hill recently and got a rental board for the afternoon. When I asked for that setup, they looked at me funny and asked if I was really sure😂
I ride the same way. It works for me.
just watched your stance video; we are on the same track. I like you rode just duck stance for years due to teaching others and using true twin rides. Never changing the angles, but now with the directional ride boards in order to get the best ride; I also have move to a more forward alignment especially on the rear foot for better use of the back and front knee movement, giving a better fore and aft and use of equal pressure and edge work. We are riding the same train, nice plus going on 80 it easier on my knee's!
Thank you for the comment! Keep up the good work! You're an inspiration!! Hope I'll still be riding at your age! And I agree with you, there's so much non informative 'cool dude' stuff about snowboarding on the internet, it's incredible. It's just a fashion show, while people, who really want to learn something about the physics behind this great sport, have to dig deep down those very few rabbit holes....
@@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel Let’s work together in principles and help those who actually want to improve their joy of winter sports. I’ve nothing to sell I just want pay it forward! Cheers and happy holidays!
Awesome info. Thanks for starting this channel. I geek out on all this kind of stuff.
Thanks for watching!! 🙏
I went from 10 years hardboots to softboots. good explanation .greets
You would say closer and closer together, not further and further together. Good info!
@@sk33t52 thanks! Note taken!!
Good info. I'm 188cm tall. My length from floor to center of kneecap is about 55cm. Took a look at all my boards and that's about where I have my bindings mounted, center to center. For angles, I usually ride somewhere around +18 or + 21 and 0 degrees or -3. If I'm focusing on carving more than anything, I'll run my rear foot +3.
I can't go positive with my rear foot, feels like my knee is going to pop and snap.
Definitely have always preferred a directional stance… 15-5 ish… I just feel so much more in control.
A couple years ago I was set up ducky footed on a rental board and couldn’t stand it, had to get everything tweaked! Stance width, angles, and all!
One of the reasons I like asymmetrical side cuts. Not that they are necessary, but I ride a somewhat wide duck stance and the asym make heel carves feel tighter.
New to your channel, but really enjoying the content. Thank you for clear explanation and thoughtful insight. Keep up the good work!
Love it!! Thank you!
It's interesting, I ride a 2014 Nitro Pantera 166 Wide, being at ~95kg and 1,83m. I like my bindings to be as close together as possible but until now I was comfortable with +45 and +6, so 39 degrees difference 😳
I'm all into bombing down the hill and/or carving, and before I saw your video I thought about trying +45 and +12 but now I think I might also want to try something like +32 and +6. Thanks a lot for your content it is really helpfull 🤙
45 is a lot....... in softboots pretty much inefficient due to the lack of lateral stiffness... Play with it! Good luck!!
One thing that no one ever mentions:
If you like to ride centered on twin boards but you have got different angles (more on the front foot, obviously), you have to set back the stance a bit, because if you don't do it, you'll have more tail than nose on your toe edge, and you don't want that.
I've seen this mistake many times, starting with myself many years ago, because yeah, I've lived that era of crazy wide stances and I used to go on 21, -21 when I was 20-25 years old, when I was 100% a park rat, then I narrowed my stance and it was 15, -15, and now at 46 I really like a quite narrow stance and 24, -9 (I am 176 cm and my ideal stance is 48-50 cm, depending on the board), but I still like twins as all mountain boards, like the Nitro Santoku or even the Jones Tweaker. So, many years ago, when I started to focus more on actually improving my turns and I finally discovered the mountain and the joy of deep pow, I realized that the bs was always tricky, so I needed to change the angles, and that changed my life. But I noticed that something was off on my twin boards, and that was what I've said: more tail than nose on the toe edge.
Some people might say "why wearing different angles on a twin board?". Well, we all are different and, why not? Just find your riding and what makes it better and more fun for you. "Rules" are great as a guide, but then, you have to find your own rules, and it'll show.
@@The-Man-On-The-Mountain Good Point!! I’ve mentioned this to friends before but not in a video yet. I agree with you.
@@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel I forgot to mention, nice video!. The comment section shows how little effort is put on educating people compared to ski. Like, even from the "core" side it's like, "nah you just strap in and figure it out bro". As an instructor, I can't tell how grateful people are when you explain things to the clients, who were never told why this works this way, and what happens when you do this or do that.
I've got the theory that all this is seen as "not core", for some reason. I've seen these young pros many times saying "I don't know bro, I just like it this way", the rare occasions when they are asked about these questions. Of course they know, they are fkg geniuses and they have got personal trainers and all that, but I guess the "attitude" is still important in snowboarding lol. I've got plenty of friends who are beats, I mean, almost pro level riders, and we spend an indecent amount of time talking about snowboarding and all these things. but then they are in a video or something, and they say "IDK bro" and laugh like stonners lol. Man, we spend hours and hours talking about all this, beer after beer, every fkg day, or in the chair, because we are obssesed freaks lol, but then you are like "IDK bro".
Let alone the rentals... It's 2024 and they still think that snowboarding is some kind of stupid sled for punks, they don't take it seriously. Kids with adults gear, adults with kids gear, awful stances, 0, 0 angles, strap buckles inside, loose screws everywhere, more tail than nose, even the feet in an angle but toes closer than heels (I've seen this several times in 20 something years).
I am so glad to see that channels like this exist, you can see how grateful people are when you explain things.
Thank you for the insight. I ride +24/+6 on a directional board and have been debating going to higher angles. I paused to kind of think about it and it just seemed uncomfortable and unnecessary. I flipped my discs to the other more aggressive angles I was considering and it just didn't look right or feel right to stand in. This puts logic to the sensation that I had attempting to adjust. I am incredibly happy on 24/6 and will likely stay there long term as a directional rider.
Awesome job!!
Thanks! Glad it made sense! :-)
Finally someone talking about width between heels & combined total angles. This is very on point. I'm curious how tall you are? Im 6'3" and rode +6/+30 & a 22" stance past several years. That seems so narrow but when I try wider it feels forced, maybe I have narrow hips or short legs. Or maybe 22" is'nt that narrow these days? Im starting the season -3/+24 on my all mountain rig since I'm trying to implement more freestyle into my all mountain riding and I like it. I have a natural super duck stance in normal life so I found I can have a slightly negative back foot angle and still comfortably get my hips and shoulders facing forward & still have the stability & slash power that the slightly negative rear foot gives me.
I'm 176cm / 5'9.5"
You're on the right track there. Keep experimenting! If 22" feels too narrow, maybe reduce the overall angle by changing only one binding by 3°?!
You're conscious!! That's key! You'll figure it out! Good luck and thanks for the comment!
I'm 185lbs. and 5'10" and ride same angles (+6/+30 w/22") K2 Alcemists (160/63) and a Ride Beserker 157W and a few more. I feel sorry for the ducks out there.
Seems every time I try narrower it just doesn’t work for me. I feel less mobile as I can’t keep my center mass between my feet. Oddly enough I find the angle the opposite. If I’m too narrow then I’m always trying to rotate my front foot more toes out and putting a lot of pressure on my pinky toe. Seems I keep coming back to 23-23.5” stance and a +21/-9. 6ft even and a 21” foot to top of bent knee so theoretically I should be more in the 21-22” range but anything less than 23” and I’m tomahawking as I can’t get my weight on my rear foot or any chop just leaves me unstable.
@@jessehill3780 you're contradicting yourself! :-) You're saying 'less mobile' and 'can't keep my com between the feet'. Keeping yur com between the feet would mean that you're not moving ' being less mobile!! 🙂Balance through movement is key! Surfing the chop on the backfoot is not a good way to ride it. Constant front foot to back foot, to front foot.... And that molbility is easier/quicker with a narrower stance.
BUT: you perceive what you perceive, and without seeing you ride, I can't argue with that at all!! So really, whatever works for you! It's just good to make conscious decisions, which you're doing, apparently! So all good.
@@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel I guess what I mean in mobility would be I can move front to back without toppling over. As a thought experiment stand with your feet completely together and lean any direction, now try the same except put one foot out in that direction. I’ll bet you can lean further over with the ability to have your foot support you as opposed to standing with feet together.
I’ve been having knee issues, knee popping out while riding 😳 and after my knee healed it kept happening. I’ve got a proper duck stance and always have 10+ years and deep into the backcountry. Next season I’m going to reevaluate my stance as I cannot keep getting injured. I know I need to work on riding switch for balance in the legs. Ugh. Any advice is welcome!
This is the video is the most informative, well thought out, and easy to understand I’ve found on stance.
Thank you!
Thanks for the kind words and sorry about your knee. That sucks!!
You can still ride switch with an asymmetrical duck stance or with a mild double Posi stance.
Watch my other videos on stances. There might be things in there that inspire you or explain some things about movement related to angles. Good luck!!
It's weird getting back on the mountain - Almost 10 yrs ago I was on a more powder focused directional board that was still good for resort/groomers back in 2015 when I had injury... I was riding posi-zero or slight posi-posi but I was super in the minority at the time. Just got back on my boards again this year and it's crazy how since then directionals and posi-posi setups have almost become the norm.
Yup! 100%
And that is a good thing!! People have choice again!! In 2008 everything went rocker/twin. I was losing it!!! And many others were, too!! Jones Snowboards were the company imo who brought back the directional shapes right then adopting Nidecker's 'CamRock' camber profile. Jeremy's personality and credibility made other companies hop on the train, and now we finally have the needed diversity. Unfortunately Jones are also going big bucks mainstream now, becoming more and more of a company for everyone rather than the directional boards specialist they once were. The nature of the beast. But even still, they're overall helping to educate snowboarders, so that's great!! :-)
I’ve been +27/+9 for over 20 years but now you’ve got me curious to try 0/0! 😂
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I used to ride +13/-13 but then I switched to +13/ +3 and for some reason it’s been a lot more fun. Even riding switch seemed easier, not sure why but it’s what I’m sticking with now
I ride +12 -12 , im gonna try same as you.
Thanks for the great videos. I'm really loving this channel. On your double positive video, you mention the importance of weight on the front of the board. What are your thoughts on binding placement relative to the center of the board? Especially on a board with no reference stance markings.
I've found on some directional boards, I prefer to move my bindings slightly forward of center to get more weight/"bite" on the front, especially on harder snow. Korua recommends staying centered as much as possible on their boards to get the most out of the flex pattern. Interested to hear your experience on this. Thanks for all the great content!
There's different takes on this. Some people move the bindings forward in firm conditions. I personally prioritize where I'm placed in the sidecut. Most manufacturers place the insert pack so that the centre inserts of the whole pack determine the reference stance. I would not change the setback before you really know that it's the board and not yourself that is 'not working correctly'. In case of Korua: the rider is placed well ahead of the centre of the sidecut on most any of their boards but the OTTO. So you're already quite forward - relatively speaking. I ride their boards set back (if I ride them).....as far as I can...... The large amount of taper combined with their very moderate setback makes for a board that often doesn't like to finish turns across the slope all that easily in steeper terrain, because the tapered tail tends to wash a bit and also has a larger sidecut than the nose (this is what they told me when I asked). This is bloody rocket science!! I will make videos about all of this, which I'm already scared of........ It's so intricate! It's so difficult to make a good snowboard! I haven't even mentioned flex yet...... Aaaaaah!!!!!! Weight in the front should in the first place come from your movement into the nose! Hope that helps. Stay tuned for those videos. It's intersting.
@@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel A lot of great points there… It is like rocket science! So many complex details to consider and so many simple things to overlook… Good reminder about their setback. I’ve been resisting the urge to move the bindings forward. I honestly didn’t even consider setting them back. There’s always something new and fun to try! I’m on my third season with the Café Racer 164 and absolutely loving that board, trying a different style of riding, and learning something new almost every ride.
Thanks for the detailed response. I‘m looking forward to your next videos, which will be great if they’re anywhere close to what you’ve put out so far. Thanks for the time you take to put them together and respond to everyone. Much appreciated!
hey awesome video, I have been riding for a few years, only using rentals, and I have been doing a neutral stance the whole time (+12 -12)
I am pretty decent at riding switch but i don't like it or do it too often. I ride regular left foot in front
I just purchased my own setup and am super excited, I have heard having a closer to 0 angle on back foot is comfortable for going fast. I was thinking of trying a +12 f and +3 rear to try this new style of binding out? What do you recommend to start? the +27 f + 6 seems a bit big of a jump coming from +12 -12 correct? Or should I give it a try? Thank you!
I should add I almost exclusively ride resort runs here in North america. I do park sometimes but 90% I am doing blue runs fast or steep black diamond slowly. I have heard this positive stance is better for carving and I am excited to try soon! Or would you say try a 0 rear foot and posi front foot to start?
Yes, that's what I'd do, and in fact it is what I did when I started to ride +/+ again years ago. Have fun!! :-)
Great stuff. Especially the toe side/heel side leverage imbalance, which I never really. (Hey... why is is so much easier to hold a toe-side edge on a steep turn...?) Now to go check those angles...
What a legend you are. I went snowboarding for the 6th time ever yesterday The first 4 times I used my buddy’s board who’s a different height to me. So I watched your video and thought u know what I’m gonna get my own board so I got it fitted to my size and stance and holy sh!t i absolutely love it. So yeah thanks man
Once again so much logical thinking going on here! These are really eye opening and makes me think what actually happens when you tune your setup. What kind of stance would you recommend if I ride mostly normal, but also wanna practice riding switch stance? I've never properly practiced switch stance before, but wanna do it to support my windsurfing. At the moment my bindings are just slapped on at a duck stance of -15 +15, which feels kinda weird. But for riding switch it would probably benefit to have a bit of - on the back foot?
Watch my episode #2/3 on duckstance! And also the #3/3 on posi posi. That'll give ideas! Good luck!!
I always get pressure points on my front foot ankle strap to the point where I have to loosen up the strap more than I’d like to. Any thoughts or insights on this? I’ve thought of getting a pair of canted bindings as maybe that would decrease the angle and decrease the tension?
*update, I narrowed my stance and that helped a ton
Before going canted I'd consider narrowing your stance - unless that's already somewhat narrow.... However, likeliest scenario is something going on with the boot! No way of giving you any good recommendations here. That's a topic for an in person assessment.
Good luck! Find a good board shop, they might help you!! :-)
@@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel my stance is 21.5” and boot feels fine, it’s only when I tighten the ankle strap after a couple runs I start to feel it. Does that sound like a boot still? Thanks for the advice!
@@devinharwood6010 Maybe you simply crank the strap too hard because the boot doesn't fill you with enough confidence that it holds you. That's a common issue of too big of a boot.... Very few shops measure feet and perform a shell fit when selling boots, They just go by sneaker size, which is completely wrong.
Otherwise, I slacken off my ankle strap on every lift run to let my feet breathe a bit.
As a beginner riding the Nidecker Elle, the snowboard shop placed my bindings where he thought they should be. I took a lesson last week & the instructor wanted to move them in from 15 to 12. How do I know what is the best stance for me?
I.M.O. that's just nonsense... The three degrees don't make enough of a difference to be some sort of great advice... Don't stress about it! If you're aiming for freestyle/park, both will work. If not, you should probably rather go to a higher angle instead to a lower one... Watch my videos on stance,
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Hope that'll give you ideas! (I worked as an instructor for 12 years, so I've observed a few things. At least that's another perspective for you.)
This is fine for directional riding, correct? How would this effect switch riding? I can't see it being more helpful than a nearly balanced duck stance.
Never thought about the heel and toe distances, so I appreciate the experiment!
A directional duck stance is perfectly fine for riding switch. If you need a more symmetrical setup to do that and you ride switch a lot, then that’s totally fine.
Hey mate! Can one make a directional twin out of a true twin? (Huck Knife 22/23). I have the feeling that my stance lenght when set at reference is a bit too wide and it feels like it hurts my adductor muscles of my left hip a little, like the feeling of the binding puuling my leg away from my hip, when I for example try to butter on my back leg (the right one), because of an injury/ surgery back 2 years ago, but when I move the bindings two hole inwards towards the middle, (one left and one right), it feels kinda too narrow. I ride at +15/-9.
So I was thinking about moving only the front binding one hole back, so that I only move one position narrower and not two. Does this work? Does it feel weird? Is it something riders (advanced) do all the time and a good way to solve such problem, or is it a no go and it wont work well due to the diference in the flex?
PS I only ride groomers and am learning to ride park. Saying this because I know this works in pow, but now sure about groomers and park. Also, I ALMOST NEVER ride switch but when I ride it's only for a short moment because I landed a trick "to fakie", then I rotate back right away. Not doing this to ride pow.
Thx in advance!
Cheers!
I'd never ride a twin any other way! 😂 Absolutely not a problem! I doubt it that you'll even notice that 1cm setback... Good luck!
@@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel Alright! Thanks a bunch! Cheers 😊
Intermediate level here, my board is 145 and I’m 167. I’ve duck stance +15 and -15 and I’ve the smallest width on my board, which seems to be a comfortable natural stance without the boots. With the boots, it feels my knees are bent more apart and I’m staying nonstop in a squat position, which leads to tiring legs very quickly. What’s wrong then here? Thanks 🙏
Maybe the stance is still too wide or your boots are laterally too stiff, or you need to prep more for being strong when snowboarding. Watch my other video on stance width!! It has a method in it to find a good starting point for stance width.
@@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel Thanks for your feedback! I checked your other videos and will take my screwdriver with me next time 😀 Really great content, keep it up! I’m a new subscriber now 🙋🏻♀️
@@Jinx0Jinx thank you that's great! 🙂
maybe the very technical explanation of boot out?
Not sure what you mean?! The video is a technical explanation of boot out?
Regarding angles and width, I am bowlegged. I am working on carving so I have adapted James' +27/+12 angles and use my board's reference width of 540 mm. My knee to heel is 50 cm. I mostly ride freeride but want to carve better. Does this stance width and angles make sense? Should I increase width for my leg shape? If so, do I need to go less directional for my stances (+27/+9) (+27/+6) (+24/+6)?
Just play with it. Try it. Find out what your body wants!! No chance to get advice in a chat... it's all subjective, as you basically stated. Good luck!
I’ve been riding a 18°/0° and 21 1/2” stance for almost 40 years and don’t feel a need to change my angle, but have contemplated narrowing up my stance down to 20 1/2 or 21. I ride knee tuck style so narrowing up the stance may help with that. What are your feels on that
Can't tell since I don't know anything about you at all... Just play with it. You have enough experience to feel what works for your body. 1/2" is not a big difference. Just play with it. Good luck!
So what angles do you ride for switch, like when you are in terrain park or teaching?
I don’t teach anymore. I don’t ride park. Anything between 27/+6 and 36/+18 goes….. less angle for powder and bumps, higher angles for carving on narrow boards.
Hi sir I have question if you can help me I will be very happy, my snowboard is 149 cm and my weight is 57 my length is 159 cm. İs this board okay for me or is it longer than it should be ? I mean what should be my snowboard size ? Thank you good luck :)
Depends on your weight, riding style, desired ride feel, that particular board and its purpose and probably a few other things. Sorry!😞
hey, advanced snowboarder here. I recently made a hardboot touring setup and are finding some trouble with riding deep powder (20cm/8in+). the board in itself is great and obviously somewhat dedicated for powder. are you having special stances for riding powder or do you think I need to get used to the hardboot in powder conditions? (softboot powder works fine for me and hardbooting on an icy slope is awesome). I'm at +5 +18 regular right now
Hi! I also splitboard in hardboots.
It's likely the lateral stiffness of the boot/binding that makes you feel like something's off.
I don't have much of a problem myself, but I understand that it's different.
You can maybe narrow your stance a little or see whether your bindings allow for canting of sorts.
Spark hardboot system with canted mounting pucks work for many people. But only compatible with Spark bindings of course.
Otherwise, not much I can say, really.
Good luck!!
Does posy posy stance helps to turn easier?
I wouldn't say that. It's just very different from duck. It depeneds on the kinds of turns you wanna make, too. I think it clearly helps with carving turns - in particular heel side. But slower speed skidded turns might be easier with some form of a negative back foot angle. Watch my other videos on stances. I'm trying to explain that there.
Heels only get further appart if you have a duck stance.
I have no idea what you’re saying. The more duck, the closer the heels get.
My stance is +21/+6。
Hallo :) was ist dein Lieblings stance?
Mit dir 96, Rücken an Rücken. Darfst gerne den Kommentar entfernen. Danke!
Logical. I liked this tip.
Love this! :-)
Logical always beats everything else, doesn't it?! ;-)
Thanks for watching!!
hey excellent video and explanation, have a question i'm actually riding +15 f +6 R and my front ankle hurts when i"m riding, should i close the rear binding and move to 0 or +3, or should i go wider (55cm is my width) thanks
Sorry man..... there's no answer to this other than testing... Likely an ankle issue!
OMG it´s the 80s
Hahahahaha.... :-) Take me back!!
Looks like a GP87 board
Well spotted! May I ask what tells you that and what other GP87 boards you've seen/dealt with?
I think their quality is superb. Cheers!
@@Justaride-Snowboard-Channelsomething familiar about the layup on those the topsheet and sidewall have such a clean look, I ride a few telos boards the backslash and a prototype sharkalanche, yes I agree the quality is really good the boards are lightweight have lots of lively pop good sidecuts
@@Diesel0807 I can only speak for Stranda in this regard, but Stranda design the entire board - sidecuts, shapes, core profile, camber profile, materials (which is where weight/pop comes from). So that is less of a factory thing. But the actual build quality is. And I have yet to see a badly made board from that place. Yes, you're right, very clean.
Nice beginning to the topic. I've dealt with it in a slightly different way (primarily from the point of view of a hardbooter), but the principles are entirely applicable to softbooters and your video adds extra insights for softbooters. My video (below) explains why James Cherry is advocating lift and canting adjustments to bindings to help improve peoples carving. It also provides a potential solution to your 0/0 degree binding stance problem.
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Thanks!! Looking forward to seeing your video!!
Also, I completely understand why James advocates for canting and all the other things he does. It’s completely logical. My take is that he simply needs to clarify who his audience is supposed to be. I’m trying to bring carving to the average rider. He’s trying to improve the advanced carver’s experience. His audience is not the average 10 days a season rider, but those are the people watching his stuff, developing the idea that in order to carve you need all this specialized stuff, which, as you likely know, is not true and actually a counterproductive approach, since people can hardly find that equipment and conclusively get put off instead of just going out on their board to learn….. :-)
James loves to carve, and to carve beautifully on the steepest terrain. I've carved with him on Pitch Black at Revelstoke. With snowboard equipment it's kind of like with cars. A Toyota Corolla can drive city streets, an F1 racetrack, and a WRC Rally stage. But it's not quite got the same performance as vehicles designed specifically for the course in question.
@@riotsupercarver7467 I agree. Do you get my point, tough?!
I, too, carve on pitch black groomers here in Fernie. I, too, have carved with James. I had no problem at all following his turn shapes, and I consider our ability level equal - but possibly achieved with slightly different techniques.
I have to admit, I find our conversations here very difficult, because the way you've approached me on this channel is making me feel like I have to defend myself.
This could well be my misinterpretation of the written word, which happens!
However, I'm not out here to offend anyone. I'm applying nuance. My comment above in regards to specialized carving gear is completely valid and doesn't dismiss at all the effectiveness of it. There are people out there, who want to carve and also ride the entire mountain off piste on the same day/board. All the super specialized carving gear will kill that experience, and they might simply not want to take it that far. I'm not using specialized carving equipment, and I consider my carving to be at a very high level - in particular because I can do it on just about any snowboard... It could be higher with more work and some gear changes, I'm sure. But maybe I'm happy here. People have a loooong way to go to learn so many little things around edge control before they'd need special stuff. That is my audience. Do you find that to be a wrong take on this? I'm also not sure why you're bringing James into this? We have a different audience! I agree with most things he says, but I disagree heavily with his attitude and lack of nuance, and I've told him that in person. So no need to further explain why his equipment ideas are great - I never disagreed with them!
There are many different ways to enjoy a mountain. We have different ride preferences. I prefer a freecarve hardboot setup. As a 65yr old hardbooter I am often questioned by skiers and boarders as to why I choose this equipment and style of riding.
My original comment was to extend you and your channel viewers understanding of the interplay between stance distance, stance angles and the riders physique. I would like just to leave it there. Have fun and be happy out there on the snow. Best wishes.
@@riotsupercarver7467 Thanks! Same to you!
I agree about the many ways to enjoy a mountain! I was hoping that that would come across out of all my content.
Take care!
Thank you, the video, and what are your preference angles for deep carving. Now i 'm +36/+18 and little wide stance for my tall. I'm about 167 cm and 51/52cm stance . I think little wide for me, but most board don't have narrower stance for me . (I 'm about 78kg ) What do you think , need i testing narower stance and lower angles? Thank you , Bye : Krisztián.🙏🏂
Yes, your stance is a bit wide.
Try Stranda Snowboards! Some of the best edge grip in the indsutry and definitely narrow stance options. My Cheater 170 goes down to 46cm stance!!
Your angles are great for just carving. You could go 3° lower on both feet, maybe... 36° on the front foot is pushing it for lateral support through a softboot.
This was a great dissertation on how to *think* about that interplay. It would be interesting to take the concept of heel-distance measurements an apply it to your other videos. PS... 36 degrees? Ouch! How did your knees fair?
Knees are fine. Watch my Posi Posi video!!! As you move to steeper Posi angles, you have to change your technique. 😉
How tall are you man?
I'm 5'9.5" / 176cm.
I'll do a stance width episode here shortly.
My height alone is not a good reference. I'll explain! ;-)
Nice
Hi Lars, excellent information! For carving with the Stranda Cheater do you use a centered length stance with the board?
When It comes to freeride with the descender for example, you keep a centered stance length or in this case you delay a little bit? Thanks
I ride centred inserts at 54cm on the Cheater. I ride the Descender 162W either at 55cm, which is centred insert on the back foot and one insert inwards (narrower) on the front foot for bigger freeride terrain. In the resort I often ride it at 53cm, which is one insert narrower than centred stance on BOTH feet. Hope that helps.
Hey, did you ever try a Stranda after all? Cheers!