14:10 Ty cut a school bus, flipped them the bird, parked sideways taking 4 handicap parking spots, closed the door on an older lady with a handful of bags, grabbed the last jar of jam that someone needed to make school cookies and stole a babys lolipop... That's the amount of awareness he's got.
@@linhunnicutt6556 Or if grandpa Joe fired him and replaced him in Cup next year with Jones lol But that ain't happening either. Hey, but at least I have a new team to root against. Joe Gibbs.
I agree... I believe it will take something drastic to get Ty's attention. After seeing Ty on Dale Jr's show I thought maybe I had the wrong idea of this kid. Saturday he made it clear I don't like Ty Gibbs.
Bobby, I thought the same thing after the Download interview, I changed my opinion about him then. Totally reversed my favorable opinion with this classless move and response afterwards!
I can tell you where Ty Gibbs will go in the future including this weekend and into the future. He will be spending a lot of time in the wall and may not be finishing many races. Joe Gibbs will be spending a ton of money on new cars in the future also. Great seeing Steve on the show guys.
There is no way JGR will park the bosses grandson this weekend. What will happen is that the debts rung up during the year will come due. Could he win the championship straight up this weekend? Yes, definitely. Will he? He has a line of people, including some on his own team, that will make sure he doesn't. He better run like he's scared because there will be a lot of people ready to collect on that debt.
Ty will get dumped this weekend … No Matter who does it … the fans will have no issue with it. When you start getting into Joe’s pocket you might see him step forward to deal with the issue.
These 3 need to do a show more often. All very much in the know and have 3 angles they can come at it from. Mike being he has been responsible for PR for a driver, Steve being a former crew chief that worked his way up in the ranks and Dale as a driver/owner. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Agreed. This is a fantastic dynamic, and one that appears to suit Mike the absolute best. When he dips into his specialty of PR and marketing, he's great.
At 8:01 Dale absolutely nails it. Our thoughts and beliefs in all things in life not just religion are often latched on to in order to create an identity for ourselves. Ty has regurgitated this gospel speak for years without ever applying any of it to his actions and way of life, completely devaluing it to a talking point that he’s used to shine good light on his name when he’s done something wrong.
Joe's integrity is on the line. How he deals with this situation will speak volumes on who he really is. I'm pretty certain I'll be shaking my head in disbelief when he does nothing. TyBaby is NOT ready for Sunday, or Saturday, or Friday. He's showing he is utterly immature.
@@taylorallen6877 that's fine but don't complain when one of the final 4 destroys his car because they're worried he'll wreck them. That's his issue now. I don't see a way in which he wins this title without taking out all of the drivers in the final 4
IMHO…I wouldn’t be surprised if Jones or one of Jr Motorsport’s cars doesn’t dump Gibbs at Phoenix. He’s wrecked every car out there at one time or another. He doesn’t deserve to win a championship now or ever, and moving him up to the 18 next year is ludicrous. I’d be surprised they could get a sponsor for that car with him driving.
@@jasons5282 I agree about your sentiments on Gibby the 8 dwarf, but if Biden needs some envelopes stuffed, ill sign up... You can absolutely adore JRM drivers, as I do, and still endorse Biden! PLEASE STOP MAKING EVERYTHING NASCAR A POLITICAL MOVE!!! IT'S RACING, not an election!!! It is DEFINITELY not political to think what Ty did was Reprehensible!!! He is a terrible kid who is NOT learning from his mistakes, he is only learning how to parrot phrases the PR Dept gave him after Grampy spanked him!! The kid doesn't have a silver spoon in his mouth, it's platinum! He must be crapping his diapers to hear his Grampa say that JGR is losing money every year and cutting staff... And lost their biggest revenue in Busch... Gibby will cause more fines than his income! So with Coy passing away ("cruel statement alert" prob didn't want to live with Gibby and his massive Ego!!! Sorry, but he raised a MONSTER!) His prayers will not save him in life, his only chance is in death!
@@13Mizzou That isn’t why Kyle is moving away from Gibbs that is just the public reason being used to put Ty in the car next year. However, Joe should really think if he need another year of maturing because you have to think that Toyota has to be furious about his actions. They went from a 50% chance to win the championship to a 25% chance in one lap. Seems like RCR had no trouble finding a sponsor for Kyle by the way so the sponsorship thing doesn’t hold much weight.
I love listening to Steve talk about all this stuff. He has such an experienced perspective that he communicates genuinely without making himself sound self important or self righteous...and FYI, all three around that table have that ability. I love these three guys together.
Steve is a trip he makes me laugh regardless of the conversation I like watching him get excited that’s what we need in the sport in the world he’s really a awesome guy we need more Steve’s around lol 😆
How does Joe Gibbs send a message in the greatest way possible? "Hey Ty, you know all those rumors and expectations that you're taking over the 18 in Cup? You wrecked your way out of that."
That's absolutely the way Joe sends the message. But if he doesn't, I guarantee that the other Cup racers are going to send it their own way. If Ty gets into the Cup with that kind of attitude, he might not finish a single race.
@@lovejoyb20 I was just thinking, FedEx is Denny's, Bass Pro is Truex's, DeWalt is Bell's, then there's the other smaller ones Interstate might the the only one the 18 car has regularly now
I doubt Joe Gibs or anyone in the company even yelled/talked to Ty. They all went straight to Brandon to tell him to please not wreck Ty in the championship race lol
Hahahaha that is hilarious you said that, because that is the first thing I thought too. They are begging Brandon and probably incentivising him good not to. They know he has every right to. But there are others who can't be bought or talked down.
It seems like Ty doesn't have his own identity yet. Most of us didn't at 19. However, I think Ty going to Cup next year may be the beginning of the end for JGR. As a fan, I am already jumping ship to RCR to follow my driver, but all indications point to this being a disaster. Denny Hamlin said it best in his tweet: "I miss J.D."
The beginning of the end at JGR under the current leadership may have already occurred. JGR is in a tight box. Poor judgement by the principals put Ty in the driver's seat (nepotism). Poor leadership resulted in a failure to get Ty on the right path before he made a move that SEVERELY damaged both his career and JGR's prospects for the future. If they keep him, they will lose fans, sponsors, drivers, and crew members because no one will want to be identified with Ty and the team or work in that environment. But, as a member of the family and a driver with great talent, how can they dump him? JGR loses either way.
@@joelcheek3494 how long until 23XI is a 4 car team and the top Toyota team? At least Hamlin has somewhere to go .. Feel bad for Bell and Truex being stuck with the spoiled sh!t
I think he's done a lot of harm to his career this year. That move was the last straw. He gave a free pass to everybody in NASCAR because look how he raced his teammate. Nobody's going to feel bad about moving him aggressively and the fans won't mind either.
And its a shame as he like all of the drivers had a future ahead of him and giving everyone a free pass to mess with him is the last thing you want to do as a driver.
If I'm running things at JGR, Ty's gonna be running a spare backup car with all spare parts this weekend. 100% chance he gets dumped early in the race. No need in breaking good equipment lol
Loved the discussion these guys had; great insight. At the end of the day, this just boils down to Ty Gibbs being the epitome of a spoiled brat. Plain and simple. We’ve all known spoiled brats in our lives, this kid fits the mold perfectly. Take his picture and put it in the dictionary next to the definition.
Jr and Steve are so knowledgeable about the sport and life. Joe needs to put someone else in the 18 car and show that kid some tough love. He needs that for his own good.
It will not at all do anything it's not joe Gibbs money it's toyato's money and they don't care ! with them it's all about the money !! If Jr had done this in his younger days senior would have spanked him down so quick ! He is a spoiled little punk he thinks he is entitled to do what ever he wants when he wants ! time for Nascar to step in and spank him down big time !! Gibbs organization will not do anything this could be the end of them ! nobody will want to go there and drive for them with this kind of bullshit going on !!!
Steve made a profound, wisdom-filled comment when he spoke of taking the Gibbs incident out of the sports arena and just talk about human decency. Spot on, Steve! Thank you all for a reflecting and sharing much wisdom and insight. The comment was made by Mike and I agree. The best action that could be taken would be for coach Gibbs to put another driver in 54 car and his grandson in the stands. That would speak volumes to the industry, the fans, and hopefully to Ty.
We could go on all day with examples of drivers moving other drivers hell Brandon moved him the lap before Jr has a hard on for Noah and he's peanut butter and jealous of ty
0% chance he does that. It would be justified, but if Jones is a professional...he moves on and looks forward to next year with JRM. No reason to burn bridges with JGR.
@@SpeedDemon88X 100% chance he does that. Bibbs robbed him of his championship dreams. Did you watch that post race interview ? Jones wasn't angry, he wasn't screaming and swearing, he was hurt, and he felt betrayed by his own. That's the kind of betrayal that gets to fester for a whole week. He gets to roll into PHX and see all of the fan fare and media attention that the final 4 drivers receive, and he gets to see what Bibbs DENIED him of. That makes blood boil and brings that betrayal right to the top. His own teammate smoked him for no reason with nothing to gain, and his own car owner did nothing about it. He could give 2 shits about that bridge as he's never going to need to cross it again. He's moving over to JRM next year, he doesn't care who's feelings he hurts or who's equipment he destroys doing it. What a nice gift to bring to your new team like helping them get a title. I hope he snuffs Bibbs into the fence early and takes that car out totally. Then I hope he takes his own car back to the garage, gets out, and walks away. The cheers from the fans will break the decibel meter. Congrats to JRM on their 2022 Xfinity Championship !!!
@@VladimirBlarp you're thinking way too much into it. Not exactly a good thing to add to your resume that you departed an organization and sabotaged their chance at winning.
Difference was/is...... When Jr. left DEI, the Earnhardt that had created the company was gone. And it was being run into the ground by Senior's widow...who, by all accounts, was a horrible boss. So, Jr. wasn't leaving (in his view) the family company, as much as he was just wanting to get away from Theresa.
Jr knew Teresa didn't have the desire or commitment to get DEI where they needed to be and she even called him out publicly. There was no fixing that partnership
The 2 are nowhere near comparable. Sr. died and the company was in turmoil. Teresa took everything away from Sr.'s sons. Even the last name. It wasn't just dale Jr. who felt betrayed.
I would love to see a weekly show of the three of you like this every season. You bring three different perspectives of the sport, and give a top perspective that everyone respects. Thanks Guys for this podcast!
One more thing I always told my kids as well as my employees “ Do all the right things when nobody is looking”. Ty needs to be told “You must do the right things because EVERYBODY is looking”. Can’t fault him as much as you should fault Joe Gibbs as he should have handled this months ago. I truly don’t think he would have a ride to be honest or at least great equipment if it wasn’t for Grand Pappy Joe. A true example of a kid that thinks he is entitled is Ty Gibbs. He is truly his worst own enemy but yet still young enough to turn it around.
I mentioned this elsewhere but if Coach and Coy don't lay down some hurt this time, they lose a lot of respect from the sponsors, other organizations, other teams and drivers, the fans etc. etc. etc. I have a scenario that would make an effect. It is widely accepted that Ty is in the 18 next year. John Hunter is out of a truck ride and is a Toyota asset. I see JH going to the 54 next year and then the 19 when Truex retires. I think the Coach should put John Hunter in the 18 NEXT year and let Ty cool his ego in Xfinity for another year.
@@bparks_5095 I would have more faith in the coach doing something than I do with his dad. Ty didn't get this way by mistake. Earlier this year when Ty made one of his bonehead moves, Coy said, "He's my boy and I got his back".
One of JGRs problems is that Gibbs and Nemecheck aren’t really likely to ever be fan favorites. In just a few years they’re gonna go from guys like Kenseth, Edwards, and Truex along with Kyle who is hated but also has fans to Ty and Nemecheck plus Bell and Denny. C-Bell is gonna be their only driver who doesn’t get booed every week. They’re already having problems with getting sponsors. At some point you’re gonna have to try and sell those sponsors on your drivers over the Elliotts, Larsons and now Chastains of the sport. Suarez, Bubba, Blaney, Gragson, all infinitely more marketable. Even Alex Bowman is at least likeable. It’s like Gibbs is becoming the douche-brigade.
I've also seen him walk past everyone, not be rude though. His driver had just won at MIS, this was also 11 years ago not too long after he started the team I think. This also shows his passion for his drivers.
Any back marker that puts him in the wall on lap 1 is going to be a fan favorite hero. At least it will keep him from ruining the championship. I know JR is a fan of Coach Gibbs and his Redskins but what does he think of Joe Gibbs as an owner now ?
If Gibbs don’t get a handle on this I believe there will be trouble ahead trying to get any driver to drive for you. when Denny Hamlin tweets… I wish JD was still here. The writings on the wall
@@DaytonaPrototypes oh be quiet just because the driver is unliked don't mean sponsors are going to stay away Joey lagano is unliked,, kyle Busch at 1 time was one of most hated drivers so was Kurt Bush and they still had major sponsors put the pipe down.
@@DaytonaPrototypes Yeah and he was still hated when he was driving for penske. The sponsors could've easily said oh no we don't want no part of Kurt Bush but they didn't
@@pp3k3jamail But Penske did eventually can him after the 2011 season. I'd imagine the sponsors had something to do with that. The guy was winning races and they went with Allmendinger in the 22 car for the 2012 season instead.
It just went to show how delusional JG is about his grandson and how he doesn’t REALLY care how he acts or the optics of his behavior. In TRUE LOVE , there comes discipline. I haven’t seen ANY discipline towards him and I doubt we’d ever will.
This was a great conversation, I agree with Jr someone put that notion in his head, I wouldn't stand anywhere near Ty during a thunderstorm you might get hit by lightning!
13:49+.....THEE best explanation I've heard yet. Thank you Mr. Letarte and you did a great Mr Earnhardt at staying unbiased. You spoke from the heart. Y'all are the best
Wanna fix TY Gibbs? Make him take next year off and work on the pit crew cleaning tires for an entire season and let him know "IF" he can become a team player he might get to come back to racing.
#1 - Joe Gibbs said there has to be a consequence. The only thing that will work is if he keeps Ty in xfinity another year, like he said at the beginning of the year. The other interview of Joe, he said they needed to "walk through this together" and bunch of other blather. So I'm not holding my breath. #2 - If I were Menards (sponsor of the JGR 19 car) I would already be on the phone with Joe cancelling next year's sponsorship. WTF we could have contended for the championship, but your grandson intentionally wrecked us? #3 Go JRM! Don't let that punk win!
Ty's maturity level is far less than the level he is racing. He should be put in the Powder Puff next year, and start EARNING his way back to a higher level. Joe and Coy Gibbs should be embarrassed that they can't handle this child. I find it concerning that young children watching nascar see this behavior and think it is acceptable.
Yeah he absolutely doesn’t deserve to move up to the cup series. He’s already lost a lot of respect there for his stunt on pit road. He’s a child and he’s not ready.
You’re exactly right. His maturity level is that of a go-kart series, not X or Cup. Even though he’s been in the 45/23 car and hasn’t made stupid decisions, it’s only a matter of time. This is just as much as Joe’s fault for not communicating to Ty in how important it is to not wreck your teammate who’s about to win and make the final 4. Just terrible racing and way of doing business all around
@@bjw9529 he has made stupid decisions in the 45/23 car. He already got roasted by Larry McReynolds for intentionally slamming into the side of Ty Gibbs on pit road and forcing him to lock up a tire so he didn’t hit a pit crew. Erik Jones also had some words for him on twitter.
@@bjw9529 If I recall, Ty door-slammed the other Ty on pit road at Texas and was fined 75 grand. Put the lives of pit crewman in danger. So, he has already showed his ass in Cup. Just a matter of time he'll do it again. But I like your take, demote back to go-carts, and let's try progressing again from there. Maybe a second time around he'd appreciate the opportunity instead of "expect" it all to be handed to him. He has taken "entitled " to a whole new level. I'm old school fan from the 70's. I remember the concern about Bobby Hillin being "entitled" at 18yrs old driving in Cup (1982 or so) for the deep pocket Stavola Brothers with next to none experience, and the old guard was worried he'd be a danger to himself and others. Nothing back in the day comes remotely close to the clown show nascar has become, in all three top series with so many selfish clowns causing so many issues.
Narcissism has no self awareness. MIKE is 100% correct. If Granpaw hasn't fixed it yet, it won't get fixed. Jr could have acted entitled ( who's bigger than his Dad in this sport [RIP]) but he made his own way. Kudos to him. Ty Gibbs is permitted to act and live with being entitled. I'll bet Gibbs doesn't win the championship this wknd. Someone will turn him... and he deserves it.
He needs to go to the Cup series. He’ll learn really quick that drivers won’t put up with that. Staying in the Xfinity series will just reinforce the idea that he can drive like this.
Dale you had a chance to be a "Ty" or so was the impression back then. Yet, when faced with those circumstances you chose a path that gained the respect of all the other drivers, teams, and fans. You set the example that the "Ty's" of the world choose to ignore.
This reflects more on the team and family than the 20 year old kid. 20 year old kids aren’t supposed to have perfect self awareness or not make mistakes, but the fact that it’s this bad tells me he’s learned that and has been allowed to behave like that.
The best motor sports / racing podcasts! All thanx to dale jr and how cool and humble he is. Kinda like the joe rogan experience. He listens and doesn’t speak over his guests or partners! Keep up the great work Dale 👍🏽👏🏽
I think Dale told him "do not wreck him" Now, that doesn't mean he can't park himself in front of the 54 all day and just hold him up when it matters most
Just Oblivious! I love it Steve and everyone else, all of these words could not have said better. Punk is completely unaware of everything around him. 3/1 JRM lets go boys!
NASCAR fans have the longest memories in sports and drivers never forget transgressions against them. Eventually the weight of being almost universally hated is gonna hit Ty. We all wanna be loved at our core, and he does nothing to earn the admiration of the garage or the fans.
Never going to happen. But I 100% agree. If Old man Gibbs had any balls he'd keep Ty in Xfinity another year and hire someone else to drive the 18 next season
Joe Gibbs should park him from the top 3 series and arca for 2023 because the ramifications are deeper than just the 19 car. That's a 50% championship winning chance gone for JGR's xfinity program. Sure you can say 25% now since its 3 JRM cars but realistically there's a ton of guys in the field that want to pull his card and may not let that happen. I think he should be placed in a back marker team in trucks or xfinity if he stays. Something to make him appreciate the position he is literally born in. Doubt that's gonna happen though. Just like i doubt Brandon Jones will wreck him next week.
Why you think Brandon Jones is going to jr motorsports? Same reason he was at gibbs for 8 years and only won 5 races while the organization won 195, because his father owns Rheem and sponsors half of nascar, it dam sure doesn't have nothing to do with talent.
Fans are missing the BIGGEST part of this whole mess - the fact that his DADDY Coy Gibbs is the V.P. of Joe Gibbs Racing, and wasn't even upset in the press conference and would NOT chastise his baby boy. Again. Blows it off, defends his widdle baby. THAT should send team mates calling for immediate emergency meetings with Joe Gibbs himself, asking to be released from their contracts to go find jobs elsewhere....because no one in their right mind should want to be there. Yet know one is blasting Coy Gibbs. NO ONE.
I had a great sports day last week with the battle the Carolina Panthers was in, I almost passed out a couple times watching Car-Atl and then to see what Ross did.. Amazing Sunday
I think if he got to sweep the garage floor for a year instead of racing it would help deflate his ego and maybe adjust his attitude with a big boot to the rear end would help some too!!
Ty is the golden spoon he’s never had to and never will have to work for anything his grandpa has gave him everything. When he goes to the cup series to drive the 18 his teammates will play second fiddle to the little prick Austin Hill needs to give him a attitude adjustment
im hoping brandon jones returns the favor at phoenix. hes going to jr next year. taking out gibbs secures it for jr motorsports. and no one can claim gibbs dont deserve it.
The thing that I see, is that drivers and owners forget that they're actually driving the SPONSOR'S car. We're already in an age when you no longer have a full year sponsor. They're getting harder and harder to find. There's not a line of sponsors waiting to get in the sport anymore. Fact is, Joe Gibbs doesn't go racing without a sponsor. Sponsors don't pay for torn up race cars, especially from a teammate. If the owners can't handle their drivers and sponsors can't see their cars finish the race because of bad attitudes, retaliation, and video game antics, the sport has a very big problem. The problem will come from lack of sponsorship and therefore funding. The best thing that NASCAR can do is be serious about enforcing discipline and competition across the board.
Ty took that comment out of context to rationalize his being a bad teammate and winning the race by any means necessary. Like Steve said: his family name is on the building so if it's not internally and externally handled quickly and correctly, JGR will have some serious perception problems to overcome for a long time.
I love Steve ! He helped me and my family get on the elevator in Martinsville. I’m on oxygen and waiting for a lung transplant and they were giving me a hard time about riding the elevator. He walked up and asked what the problem was and when we explained he said just come with me. I messed up though, I asked to take his picture and he said sure and I did! I should have taken my picture with him. I love him, and grateful appreciated him that day.
I know the ship has sailed far and long for this, but the importance of teammates used to carry far less weight in NASCAR. I remember back in the day when NASCAR drivers and teams would make fun of Indy and F1 teams for doing things like giving up spaces or something to help a teammate out. When the green dropped, the only car that mattered to a NASCAR team was THEIR car, not the one they park next to in the shop. I also think the elimination/playoff format has contributed to this. Fighting tooth and nail for every win and every position in every single race is what mattered, not doing calculus on how many positions the teammate needs to secure a spot in the next round, and how many I can give up to help him out. Again, this is all "old man shakes fist at clouds" at this point. They're not going to roll anything back like that. There's too much money involved now (even though the fanbase is shrinking). But this isn't a discuss that would have happened 20, 25, 30 years ago.
Crazy to do that to Brandon Jones with all that him and his dad has brought to JGR. Shows that he actually isn't a company man. Any car with Rheem on it is because of Jr. Jones. millions and millions for that.
Teammates in nascar is dumb anyway every driver should fend for themselves and this is one of the reasons why because a lot of drivers are not going to be content to sit back and just run 2nd. If I was a nascar driver I wouldn't want no teammate. I wouldn't want to be like oh I can't do this move because my teammate is right there. Or I can't do the bumper run like Jeff Gordon or Jeremy Mayfield because my teammate is right there and he might get collected in the wreak. You are restricted when you have a teammate on a race track it makes no sense.
Ross Chastane move was the only option he had, which was to smash on the gas pedal to get ahead of 2 other drivers on the final turn. Any other driver would just have rode it out and not made the next rung of the playoffs. Luckily Chastain figured out how to be successful after smashing down on the gas pedal, which was to ride the wall.
Would love to see Steve on the show more often. He has so much knowledge and is really good at getting his point across.
Same!
Exactly
@@timjacobs1997 Agreed, and with my appreciation of what Dale brings to the table, this was an awesome video.
Yes!
I agree. I like the intelligent discussion. Steve is a smart guy.
14:10 Ty cut a school bus, flipped them the bird, parked sideways taking 4 handicap parking spots, closed the door on an older lady with a handful of bags, grabbed the last jar of jam that someone needed to make school cookies and stole a babys lolipop... That's the amount of awareness he's got.
100% we've all known of a kid this immature
Ty Gibbs needs taken out a super speedway, and see how he likes that
The only thing that will get his attention is parking him this weekend and we all know it ain’t happening.
best analogy ever ! lol
@@linhunnicutt6556 Or if grandpa Joe fired him and replaced him in Cup next year with Jones lol But that ain't happening either. Hey, but at least I have a new team to root against. Joe Gibbs.
I agree... I believe it will take something drastic to get Ty's attention. After seeing Ty on Dale Jr's show I thought maybe I had the wrong idea of this kid. Saturday he made it clear I don't like Ty Gibbs.
Bobby, I thought the same thing after the Download interview, I changed my opinion about him then. Totally reversed my favorable opinion with this classless move and response afterwards!
when someone shows you who they are, believe them. Ty Gibbs has repeatedly shown you who he is despite what he says
No you don't. He is what you saw Sat.
He needs to have a run in with Austin Hill
You in 1 million more people don’t like that little rich kid. I think the problem is he hasn’t hit the wall hard enough yet.
I wish Steve Letarte could be with you guys every week - the 3 of you talking through stuff is just gold !!!
Yeah get rid of Mike and put Steve there
Steve is better on this than he is on the NBC broadcast.
@@TritiumMedia I agree. Mike is OK, but Dale and Stevie have unmatched chemistry.
I can tell you where Ty Gibbs will go in the future including this weekend and into the future. He will be spending a lot of time in the wall and may not be finishing many races. Joe Gibbs will be spending a ton of money on new cars in the future also. Great seeing Steve on the show guys.
There is no way JGR will park the bosses grandson this weekend. What will happen is that the debts rung up during the year will come due. Could he win the championship straight up this weekend? Yes, definitely. Will he? He has a line of people, including some on his own team, that will make sure he doesn't. He better run like he's scared because there will be a lot of people ready to collect on that debt.
You are dead on. There is a guantlet of guys he has wronged, and they will be damned if he wins the championship. Ain't happening.
I have to agree with this whole statement. The chances of him winning the championship this weekend is damn near zero because of all this.
Ty will get dumped this weekend … No Matter who does it … the fans will have no issue with it.
When you start getting into Joe’s pocket you might see him step forward to deal with the issue.
I really hope Brandon Jones puts him in the wall the first chance he gets.
He needs to be put in the wall...several times.
These 3 need to do a show more often. All very much in the know and have 3 angles they can come at it from. Mike being he has been responsible for PR for a driver, Steve being a former crew chief that worked his way up in the ranks and Dale as a driver/owner. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Agreed. This is a fantastic dynamic, and one that appears to suit Mike the absolute best. When he dips into his specialty of PR and marketing, he's great.
I’m over mike
Mike is not needed as much as a driver’s perspective, but he has known it from being a publicist for multiple drivers.
At 8:01 Dale absolutely nails it. Our thoughts and beliefs in all things in life not just religion are often latched on to in order to create an identity for ourselves. Ty has regurgitated this gospel speak for years without ever applying any of it to his actions and way of life, completely devaluing it to a talking point that he’s used to shine good light on his name when he’s done something wrong.
i picked up on that too. i think what Jr was trying to say was that this kid is a product of his environment.
Joe's integrity is on the line. How he deals with this situation will speak volumes on who he really is. I'm pretty certain I'll be shaking my head in disbelief when he does nothing. TyBaby is NOT ready for Sunday, or Saturday, or Friday. He's showing he is utterly immature.
Joe Gibbs doesn’t even know his own sons birthday. He’s a clown. Watch the JD interview
Just because someone prays and claims to love God, doesn't mean it's true
Ty Gibbs is definitely immature, but let’s stop crucifying young men as if they’re supposed to be perfect human beings as teenagers.
@@taylorallen6877 that's fine but don't complain when one of the final 4 destroys his car because they're worried he'll wreck them. That's his issue now. I don't see a way in which he wins this title without taking out all of the drivers in the final 4
IMHO…I wouldn’t be surprised if Jones or one of Jr Motorsport’s cars doesn’t dump Gibbs at Phoenix. He’s wrecked every car out there at one time or another. He doesn’t deserve to win a championship now or ever, and moving him up to the 18 next year is ludicrous. I’d be surprised they could get a sponsor for that car with him driving.
Steve Letarte deserves all the praise he gets. What an asset to this sport.
Coach wasn’t a saint in nfl. He has some instances of unsportsmanlike conduct on his résumé. Nothing this blatantly self unaware though.
Agreed. I wonder if the DJD could have a regular segment featuring some philosophy from Steve?
Noah Gragson had the line of the year. "I am proud to be in the final four with the other 3 1/2 men" That's like classic Tony Stewart stuff
In the next 5 years, I hope he develops into the next Tony in the Cup garage
The kid he called half a man beat him fair and square. Quite the L for Noah here
@@joekaput747 not going to happen hahahaha
@robert fennel, beating fare and square does not include sticking a teammate in the wall. Go back to stuffing envelopes for Biden.
@@jasons5282 I agree about your sentiments on Gibby the 8 dwarf, but if Biden needs some envelopes stuffed, ill sign up... You can absolutely adore JRM drivers, as I do, and still endorse Biden! PLEASE STOP MAKING EVERYTHING NASCAR A POLITICAL MOVE!!! IT'S RACING, not an election!!!
It is DEFINITELY not political to think what Ty did was Reprehensible!!! He is a terrible kid who is NOT learning from his mistakes, he is only learning how to parrot phrases the PR Dept gave him after Grampy spanked him!!
The kid doesn't have a silver spoon in his mouth, it's platinum! He must be crapping his diapers to hear his Grampa say that JGR is losing money every year and cutting staff... And lost their biggest revenue in Busch... Gibby will cause more fines than his income! So with Coy passing away ("cruel statement alert" prob didn't want to live with Gibby and his massive Ego!!! Sorry, but he raised a MONSTER!)
His prayers will not save him in life, his only chance is in death!
Grandaddy owning the race team gives him the kind of protection that most could only dream of.
Until sponsors start to stay away.
He better hope the sponsors are happy....no money no racing.
Exactly, JGR is already hurting for sponsorship which is why Kyle is moving to RCR
@@13Mizzou That isn’t why Kyle is moving away from Gibbs that is just the public reason being used to put Ty in the car next year. However, Joe should really think if he need another year of maturing because you have to think that Toyota has to be furious about his actions. They went from a 50% chance to win the championship to a 25% chance in one lap. Seems like RCR had no trouble finding a sponsor for Kyle by the way so the sponsorship thing doesn’t hold much weight.
Yeah but his grandpa and his legacy is why ty goes extra to make a name for himself. Can't be easy to be seen as a spoiled brat no matter what you do
I love listening to Steve talk about all this stuff. He has such an experienced perspective that he communicates genuinely without making himself sound self important or self righteous...and FYI, all three around that table have that ability. I love these three guys together.
Steve is a trip he makes me laugh regardless of the conversation I like watching him get excited that’s what we need in the sport in the world he’s really a awesome guy we need more Steve’s around lol 😆
I totally agree!!!! Wish SteveL was with these guys Every week!!!!
How does Joe Gibbs send a message in the greatest way possible? "Hey Ty, you know all those rumors and expectations that you're taking over the 18 in Cup? You wrecked your way out of that."
That's absolutely the way Joe sends the message. But if he doesn't, I guarantee that the other Cup racers are going to send it their own way.
If Ty gets into the Cup with that kind of attitude, he might not finish a single race.
@@InchonDM I can guarantee there are JGR sponsors that won't agree to being on a Ty Gibbs Cup car.
@@lovejoyb20 with M&Ms gone, who's left?
@@joekaput747 let's see...Fed Ex, Bass Pro Shops, Dewalt, Interstate Batteries, Auto-Owners, Sport Clips, Rheem, Resers, Monster Energy, Coca Cola, Ruud, Devotion, SiriusXM, Doosan.
You're right, there's no one without M&M/Mars.
@@lovejoyb20 I was just thinking, FedEx is Denny's, Bass Pro is Truex's, DeWalt is Bell's, then there's the other smaller ones
Interstate might the the only one the 18 car has regularly now
I doubt Joe Gibs or anyone in the company even yelled/talked to Ty. They all went straight to Brandon to tell him to please not wreck Ty in the championship race lol
Yeah. Brandon is out of the championship and going to JR next year. He may just go out with a literal bang.
Hahahaha that is hilarious you said that, because that is the first thing I thought too. They are begging Brandon and probably incentivising him good not to. They know he has every right to. But there are others who can't be bought or talked down.
his dad Coy reemed him
They may have to pay off Brandon
@@prismfireproductions3772 I seriously doubt that. If his dad had a backbone his kid wouldn’t act like an entitled douche.
Letarte is without question THE BEST analyst in the business!!!!!
It seems like Ty doesn't have his own identity yet. Most of us didn't at 19. However, I think Ty going to Cup next year may be the beginning of the end for JGR. As a fan, I am already jumping ship to RCR to follow my driver, but all indications point to this being a disaster. Denny Hamlin said it best in his tweet: "I miss J.D."
The beginning of the end at JGR under the current leadership may have already occurred. JGR is in a tight box. Poor judgement by the principals put Ty in the driver's seat (nepotism). Poor leadership resulted in a failure to get Ty on the right path before he made a move that SEVERELY damaged both his career and JGR's prospects for the future. If they keep him, they will lose fans, sponsors, drivers, and crew members because no one will want to be identified with Ty and the team or work in that environment. But, as a member of the family and a driver with great talent, how can they dump him? JGR loses either way.
@@joelcheek3494 JD's passing might have even bigger consequences than we could have ever imagined
Sure he does. spoiled brat
@@joelcheek3494 how long until 23XI is a 4 car team and the top Toyota team? At least Hamlin has somewhere to go .. Feel bad for Bell and Truex being stuck with the spoiled sh!t
Agreed look how much Dillon elevated RCR 🤣😂😂🤣😂😂
I think he's done a lot of harm to his career this year. That move was the last straw. He gave a free pass to everybody in NASCAR because look how he raced his teammate. Nobody's going to feel bad about moving him aggressively and the fans won't mind either.
And its a shame as he like all of the drivers had a future ahead of him and giving everyone a free pass to mess with him is the last thing you want to do as a driver.
This kid screwed up so bad, NASCAR will have to add an extra race ! The "Get Ty Gibbs 400" sponsored by Band Aid brand medical supply's !
If I'm running things at JGR, Ty's gonna be running a spare backup car with all spare parts this weekend. 100% chance he gets dumped early in the race. No need in breaking good equipment lol
Ty Gibbs is a kid this is what happens when kids drive racecars his talent has not been refined that comes with age
I think he's done
He has proven over and over again he is NOT cup level ready, he needs to mature 10 fold.
Loved the discussion these guys had; great insight. At the end of the day, this just boils down to Ty Gibbs being the epitome of a spoiled brat. Plain and simple. We’ve all known spoiled brats in our lives, this kid fits the mold perfectly. Take his picture and put it in the dictionary next to the definition.
Yep. The EPITOME
Spoiled brats for sure almost the whole field is full of them, Ty just happenes to get the spotlight this week.
I just watch anymore for a good laugh
Jr and Steve are so knowledgeable about the sport and life. Joe needs to put someone else in the 18 car and show that kid some tough love. He needs that for his own good.
Kurt Busch to the 18! jk lol
It will not at all do anything it's not joe Gibbs money it's toyato's money and they don't care ! with them it's all about the money !! If Jr had done this in his younger days senior would have spanked him down so quick ! He is a spoiled little punk he thinks he is entitled to do what ever he wants when he wants ! time for Nascar to step in and spank him down big time !! Gibbs organization will not do anything this could be the end of them ! nobody will want to go there and drive for them with this kind of bullshit going on !!!
Yeah. Ty needs to sit out a season. And grow up for a year.
I’d say Nemechek but that’s not gonna happen.
I know this is a stretch... but I'd like to see what Michael McDowell could do in the 18
Steve made a profound, wisdom-filled comment when he spoke of taking the Gibbs incident out of the sports arena and just talk about human decency. Spot on, Steve! Thank you all for a reflecting and sharing much wisdom and insight. The comment was made by Mike and I agree. The best action that could be taken would be for coach Gibbs to put another driver in 54 car and his grandson in the stands. That would speak volumes to the industry, the fans, and hopefully to Ty.
We could go on all day with examples of drivers moving other drivers hell Brandon moved him the lap before Jr has a hard on for Noah and he's peanut butter and jealous of ty
Please give Brandon Jones a ride back on the team plane after he takes out Gibbs on Sunday and gives a JRM driver the Xfinity Championship.
0% chance he does that. It would be justified, but if Jones is a professional...he moves on and looks forward to next year with JRM. No reason to burn bridges with JGR.
@@SpeedDemon88X 100% chance he does that. Bibbs robbed him of his championship dreams. Did you watch that post race interview ? Jones wasn't angry, he wasn't screaming and swearing, he was hurt, and he felt betrayed by his own. That's the kind of betrayal that gets to fester for a whole week. He gets to roll into PHX and see all of the fan fare and media attention that the final 4 drivers receive, and he gets to see what Bibbs DENIED him of. That makes blood boil and brings that betrayal right to the top. His own teammate smoked him for no reason with nothing to gain, and his own car owner did nothing about it. He could give 2 shits about that bridge as he's never going to need to cross it again. He's moving over to JRM next year, he doesn't care who's feelings he hurts or who's equipment he destroys doing it. What a nice gift to bring to your new team like helping them get a title. I hope he snuffs Bibbs into the fence early and takes that car out totally. Then I hope he takes his own car back to the garage, gets out, and walks away. The cheers from the fans will break the decibel meter. Congrats to JRM on their 2022 Xfinity Championship !!!
@@VladimirBlarp you're thinking way too much into it. Not exactly a good thing to add to your resume that you departed an organization and sabotaged their chance at winning.
I’m sure JRM will whispered in his ear suggestions on how to handle himself Sunday (no retaliation).
Hopefully he's in a position to wreck ty on the last lap at Phoenix win the race and just say that this could have been a championship for Joe Gibbs
Letarte says “ he ain’t going anywhere, his name is on the building”. To the only guy who also had his name on a building and went elsewhere lol
Difference was/is......
When Jr. left DEI, the Earnhardt that had created the company was gone.
And it was being run into the ground by Senior's widow...who, by all accounts, was a horrible boss.
So, Jr. wasn't leaving (in his view) the family company, as much as he was just wanting to get away from Theresa.
Jr knew Teresa didn't have the desire or commitment to get DEI where they needed to be and she even called him out publicly. There was no fixing that partnership
The 2 are nowhere near comparable. Sr. died and the company was in turmoil. Teresa took everything away from Sr.'s sons. Even the last name. It wasn't just dale Jr. who felt betrayed.
I've never heard Stevies voice go up 5 octives before today.
The character of a man can easily be determined by how he treats those that can do nothing for him.
You didn’t just hit the nail on the head…..you drove it thru the board!!!
👏👏👏👏
I would love to see a weekly show of the three of you like this every season. You bring three different perspectives of the sport, and give a top perspective that everyone respects. Thanks Guys for this podcast!
One more thing I always told my kids as well as my employees “ Do all the right things when nobody is looking”. Ty needs to be told “You must do the right things because EVERYBODY is looking”. Can’t fault him as much as you should fault Joe Gibbs as he should have handled this months ago. I truly don’t think he would have a ride to be honest or at least great equipment if it wasn’t for Grand Pappy Joe. A true example of a kid that thinks he is entitled is Ty Gibbs. He is truly his worst own enemy but yet still young enough to turn it around.
I mentioned this elsewhere but if Coach and Coy don't lay down some hurt this time, they lose a lot of respect from the sponsors, other organizations, other teams and drivers, the fans etc. etc. etc. I have a scenario that would make an effect. It is widely accepted that Ty is in the 18 next year. John Hunter is out of a truck ride and is a Toyota asset. I see JH going to the 54 next year and then the 19 when Truex retires. I think the Coach should put John Hunter in the 18 NEXT year and let Ty cool his ego in Xfinity for another year.
This would be the most logical thing to do. Will coach have the sack to make it happen? Doubt it, only time will tell
@@bparks_5095 I would have more faith in the coach doing something than I do with his dad. Ty didn't get this way by mistake. Earlier this year when Ty made one of his bonehead moves, Coy said, "He's my boy and I got his back".
One of JGRs problems is that Gibbs and Nemecheck aren’t really likely to ever be fan favorites. In just a few years they’re gonna go from guys like Kenseth, Edwards, and Truex along with Kyle who is hated but also has fans to Ty and Nemecheck plus Bell and Denny. C-Bell is gonna be their only driver who doesn’t get booed every week. They’re already having problems with getting sponsors. At some point you’re gonna have to try and sell those sponsors on your drivers over the Elliotts, Larsons and now Chastains of the sport. Suarez, Bubba, Blaney, Gragson, all infinitely more marketable. Even Alex Bowman is at least likeable. It’s like Gibbs is becoming the douche-brigade.
@@mlwilliam213 Good observation.
@@mlwilliam213 This is a great comment! Well said.
Absolutely an amazing talk! You guys have the bar set at the moon!
Junior is a legit good guy. Ive seen him sign autographs and spend time with fans many many times at the track. Universally loved.
He learned from his dad
I've also seen him walk past everyone, not be rude though. His driver had just won at MIS, this was also 11 years ago not too long after he started the team I think. This also shows his passion for his drivers.
William Mitchell Just stop already.
I haven’t watched a full NASCAR race in a decade or more, but find myself glued to this channel. Congratulations Jr.
Those in the Gibbs family should be ashamed of Ty Gibbs, his actions, and his words.
Juniors words carry far in the garage and outside the garage.
Any back marker that puts him in the wall on lap 1 is going to be a fan favorite hero. At least it will keep him from ruining the championship. I know JR is a fan of Coach Gibbs and his Redskins but what does he think of Joe Gibbs as an owner now ?
Love your Shows Jr.
Real word interviews and honest opinions.
If Gibbs don’t get a handle on this I believe there will be trouble ahead trying to get any driver to drive for you. when Denny Hamlin tweets… I wish JD was still here. The writings on the wall
Sponsorship would also be tough to come by for a guy so unliked.
@@DaytonaPrototypes oh be quiet just because the driver is unliked don't mean sponsors are going to stay away Joey lagano is unliked,, kyle Busch at 1 time was one of most hated drivers so was Kurt Bush and they still had major sponsors put the pipe down.
@@pp3k3jamail Lol. Kurt "Bush" didn't have major sponsors for a few years after Penske canned him.
@@DaytonaPrototypes Yeah and he was still hated when he was driving for penske. The sponsors could've easily said oh no we don't want no part of Kurt Bush but they didn't
@@pp3k3jamail But Penske did eventually can him after the 2011 season. I'd imagine the sponsors had something to do with that. The guy was winning races and they went with Allmendinger in the 22 car for the 2012 season instead.
Joe dropped the ball, he should have been on the radio telling Ty to let Brandon go. He needed to win to make it into the final four.
It just went to show how delusional JG is about his grandson and how he doesn’t REALLY care how he acts or the optics of his behavior. In TRUE LOVE , there comes discipline. I haven’t seen ANY discipline towards him and I doubt we’d ever will.
This was a great conversation, I agree with Jr someone put that notion in his head, I wouldn't stand anywhere near Ty during a thunderstorm you might get hit by lightning!
Great points made by all three of you. Thanks!
Toyota doesn't like drivers intentionally wrecking teammates. Ask Hailie Deegan. TRD dumped her for that crap in the K&N West short tracks series.
Oh I'm sure they were pissed! Or are.
13:49+.....THEE best explanation I've heard yet. Thank you Mr. Letarte and you did a great Mr Earnhardt at staying unbiased. You spoke from the heart. Y'all are the best
Steve LeTarte is brilliant, he was the absolute perfect candidate to transfer from the box to analyst.
lol he is the worst on tv
@@silentbob3208 Jeff Burton, Dale Jr. and Rick Allen would like a word lol
@@jaredbardin The whole NBC crew is. It never will be as good as their early days
Wanna fix TY Gibbs? Make him take next year off and work on the pit crew cleaning tires for an entire season and let him know "IF" he can become a team player he might get to come back to racing.
#1 - Joe Gibbs said there has to be a consequence. The only thing that will work is if he keeps Ty in xfinity another year, like he said at the beginning of the year. The other interview of Joe, he said they needed to "walk through this together" and bunch of other blather. So I'm not holding my breath. #2 - If I were Menards (sponsor of the JGR 19 car) I would already be on the phone with Joe cancelling next year's sponsorship. WTF we could have contended for the championship, but your grandson intentionally wrecked us? #3 Go JRM! Don't let that punk win!
Don't cry too hard when Ty does win, poor baby. Coming to Cup!
You got your wish with #2 I believe... Menards is going to JR Motorsports.
@@JesusTapdancingChristOnaCross ya cuz they're with Jones. Menards only sponsors Jones and no other Toyota driver.
Enjoy watching you guys.
If I was a driver, I would dream of driving for JRM
We all would
Steve closing his eyes when Dale said ty Gibbs says it all. I like that Steve doesn't care what people say he says what he feels with logic.
Ty's maturity level is far less than the level he is racing. He should be put in the Powder Puff next year, and start EARNING his way back to a higher level.
Joe and Coy Gibbs should be embarrassed that they can't handle this child. I find it concerning that young children watching nascar see this behavior and think it is acceptable.
Bubba should send Ty a Christmas card for taking the spotlight off of him
Yeah he absolutely doesn’t deserve to move up to the cup series. He’s already lost a lot of respect there for his stunt on pit road. He’s a child and he’s not ready.
You’re exactly right. His maturity level is that of a go-kart series, not X or Cup. Even though he’s been in the 45/23 car and hasn’t made stupid decisions, it’s only a matter of time. This is just as much as Joe’s fault for not communicating to Ty in how important it is to not wreck your teammate who’s about to win and make the final 4. Just terrible racing and way of doing business all around
@@bjw9529 he has made stupid decisions in the 45/23 car. He already got roasted by Larry McReynolds for intentionally slamming into the side of Ty Gibbs on pit road and forcing him to lock up a tire so he didn’t hit a pit crew. Erik Jones also had some words for him on twitter.
@@bjw9529
If I recall, Ty door-slammed the other Ty on pit road at Texas and was fined 75 grand. Put the lives of pit crewman in danger. So, he has already showed his ass in Cup. Just a matter of time he'll do it again. But I like your take, demote back to go-carts, and let's try progressing again from there. Maybe a second time around he'd appreciate the opportunity instead of "expect" it all to be handed to him.
He has taken "entitled " to a whole new level.
I'm old school fan from the 70's. I remember the concern about Bobby Hillin being "entitled" at 18yrs old driving in Cup (1982 or so) for the deep pocket Stavola Brothers with next to none experience, and the old guard was worried he'd be a danger to himself and others. Nothing back in the day comes remotely close to the clown show nascar has become, in all three top series with so many selfish clowns causing so many issues.
We all know that his grandpa sat him down, held his hand and did exactly what Dale said. It's ok slugger we'll get through this
Narcissism has no self awareness. MIKE is 100% correct. If Granpaw hasn't fixed it yet, it won't get fixed. Jr could have acted entitled ( who's bigger than his Dad in this sport [RIP]) but he made his own way. Kudos to him. Ty Gibbs is permitted to act and live with being entitled. I'll bet Gibbs doesn't win the championship this wknd. Someone will turn him... and he deserves it.
He needs to go to the Cup series. He’ll learn really quick that drivers won’t put up with that. Staying in the Xfinity series will just reinforce the idea that he can drive like this.
He wrecked people in every series he's raced in
Dale you had a chance to be a "Ty" or so was the impression back then. Yet, when faced with those circumstances you chose a path that gained the respect of all the other drivers, teams, and fans. You set the example that the "Ty's" of the world choose to ignore.
Early on when he raced for his dad, can you imagine what Sr would have done had Jr been that stupid
This is a perfect explanation of it all
Mike- “it wasn’t a great time”. Lol. 😂 understatement of the decade.
When Grandpa is the car owner, you can behave badly like this.
Too bad - but maybe Grandpa should Man Up and sit Grand-baby out for a few races...
Not necessarily, but when you don't do anything about it the bad behavior it continues
Until the guy you hosed dumps him to win a cup for his 2023 team
I actually think daddy enables him more than anyone
But when grandpa loses hundreds of thousands of dollars in not making a Championship 4, you can just take that out of his allowance.
Great points brought up
This reflects more on the team and family than the 20 year old kid. 20 year old kids aren’t supposed to have perfect self awareness or not make mistakes, but the fact that it’s this bad tells me he’s learned that and has been allowed to behave like that.
20 yrs old is not a "kid" and we need to stop the narrative in America that you're a kid until you're 40.
Excellent show! Steve makes perfect sense to me!
Dale Sr. raised a great man
The best motor sports / racing podcasts! All thanx to dale jr and how cool and humble he is. Kinda like the joe rogan experience. He listens and doesn’t speak over his guests or partners! Keep up the great work Dale 👍🏽👏🏽
So if i am Brandon Jones I would guarantee he doesn't win the championship. You can do whatever you want on your last day.
I think Dale told him "do not wreck him"
Now, that doesn't mean he can't park himself in front of the 54 all day and just hold him up when it matters most
He told Noah to do it instead
And how did that all work out? WOO!
Just Oblivious! I love it Steve and everyone else, all of these words could not have said better. Punk is completely unaware of everything around him. 3/1 JRM lets go boys!
NASCAR fans have the longest memories in sports and drivers never forget transgressions against them. Eventually the weight of being almost universally hated is gonna hit Ty. We all wanna be loved at our core, and he does nothing to earn the admiration of the garage or the fans.
Probably the only driver more universally hated than Bubba
Narcissism
Ty is a sociopath. He wouldn't understand that.
@@limprooster3253 Bubba isn't even universally hated, let's be real here
@@joekaput747 I don't know man. He pulls more boos than cheers on a regular basis
It’s going to be funny when Jones drives the 19 completely thru the 54 Saturday.
joe has to park him this weekend... that is about the only thing that is gonna save this kid at this point...
Not going to happen. Absolutely zero chance of that.
Never going to happen. But I 100% agree. If Old man Gibbs had any balls he'd keep Ty in Xfinity another year and hire someone else to drive the 18 next season
Never gonna happen with a championship is on the line.
Maybe Daytona next season. No way on championship weekend.
Joe Gibbs should park him from the top 3 series and arca for 2023 because the ramifications are deeper than just the 19 car. That's a 50% championship winning chance gone for JGR's xfinity program. Sure you can say 25% now since its 3 JRM cars but realistically there's a ton of guys in the field that want to pull his card and may not let that happen. I think he should be placed in a back marker team in trucks or xfinity if he stays. Something to make him appreciate the position he is literally born in. Doubt that's gonna happen though. Just like i doubt Brandon Jones will wreck him next week.
The look on Steve's face says it all. No words needed.
The worst part is how his actions may affect sponsors and the cash flow.
Why you think Brandon Jones is going to jr motorsports? Same reason he was at gibbs for 8 years and only won 5 races while the organization won 195, because his father owns Rheem and sponsors half of nascar, it dam sure doesn't have nothing to do with talent.
Fans are missing the BIGGEST part of this whole mess - the fact that his DADDY Coy Gibbs is the V.P. of Joe Gibbs Racing, and wasn't even upset in the press conference and would NOT chastise his baby boy. Again. Blows it off, defends his widdle baby. THAT should send team mates calling for immediate emergency meetings with Joe Gibbs himself, asking to be released from their contracts to go find jobs elsewhere....because no one in their right mind should want to be there. Yet know one is blasting Coy Gibbs. NO ONE.
We don't know the true talent of Ty because he's had nothing short of the best equipment. He's been spoiled and it shows on track
I want to see Ty Gibbs wreak Austin hill for the win at Phoenix 🤣🤣🤣🤣
He just repeats what he has been told. Nothing ever comes from his heart.
Agree agree agree. All spot on
Grandpas Boy better get put in the wall at Phoenix
LOL Kenny Wallace explained exactly how to do it on his youtube channel LOL
I'll tell where Ty go's from here, strait into the wall at Phoenix !
I'll tell you where you need to go, back to school. Don't cry too hard when it doesn't happen.
@@silentbob3208
Gibbs doesn't deserve the championship
@@doodlebob3374 too bad because he does, poor baby
I guarantee he don’t do Austin Hill like that after seeing Austin lay out Snider
Hahahaha if he does, he's dumber than I thought he was.
Hell ya Brother!
If you notice, he doesn't mess with Noah either
Austin would probably break his jaw ..... easily .
I wish he would
I love what noah said. "Ty gibbs racing, uhh I mean joe gibbs racing." That pretty much sums it up.
Yeah, like Noah has room to talk when he is the worst driver in the series itself.
@@silentbob3208 worst driver in the series, yet has 8 wins. You probably should keep stupid comments to yourself.
@@Prostarter88 Too bad you didn't, right. Like I said, worst driver in the series, fact. Cry some more.
@@silentbob3208 lol wow big tough guy telling people to cry more on the internet. Imagine having nothing else to consume your day.
@@Prostarter88 can't even imagine really, tell me what that's like. Poor thing
I had a great sports day last week with the battle the Carolina Panthers was in, I almost passed out a couple times watching Car-Atl and then to see what Ross did.. Amazing Sunday
Like anyone cares
@@silentbob3208 Someone P!see in your corn flakes I see
@@TroySteele17 nah, don't eat those. Cry some more
Those days are always great.
I think if he got to sweep the garage floor for a year instead of racing it would help deflate his ego and maybe adjust his attitude with a big boot to the rear end would help some too!!
Damn Jr... You're spot on, on this one. 100%
lol sure he is. His father made a living of doing the same thing but... just ask DW
Ty is the golden spoon he’s never had to and never will have to work for anything his grandpa has gave him everything. When he goes to the cup series to drive the 18 his teammates will play second fiddle to the little prick Austin Hill needs to give him a attitude adjustment
It was a golden nipple
im hoping brandon jones returns the favor at phoenix. hes going to jr next year. taking out gibbs secures it for jr motorsports. and no one can claim gibbs dont deserve it.
Don’t know if Brandon Jones has big enough balls to do it??
Steve nailed it!
He’s not ready for cup and he doesn’t deserve to be there
The thing that I see, is that drivers and owners forget that they're actually driving the SPONSOR'S car. We're already in an age when you no longer have a full year sponsor. They're getting harder and harder to find. There's not a line of sponsors waiting to get in the sport anymore. Fact is, Joe Gibbs doesn't go racing without a sponsor. Sponsors don't pay for torn up race cars, especially from a teammate. If the owners can't handle their drivers and sponsors can't see their cars finish the race because of bad attitudes, retaliation, and video game antics, the sport has a very big problem. The problem will come from lack of sponsorship and therefore funding. The best thing that NASCAR can do is be serious about enforcing discipline and competition across the board.
Ty took that comment out of context to rationalize his being a bad teammate and winning the race by any means necessary. Like Steve said: his family name is on the building so if it's not internally and externally handled quickly and correctly, JGR will have some serious perception problems to overcome for a long time.
Damn good interview fellas!
Brandon puts Ty in the wall when he gets a chance Saturday. Just my prediction.
I love Steve ! He helped me and my family get on the elevator in Martinsville. I’m on oxygen and waiting for a lung transplant and they were giving me a hard time about riding the elevator. He walked up and asked what the problem was and when we explained he said just come with me.
I messed up though, I asked to take his picture and he said sure and I did! I should have taken my picture with him. I love him, and grateful appreciated him that day.
You guys have Ty Gibbs pegged and I think that he could bring down JGR.
I know the ship has sailed far and long for this, but the importance of teammates used to carry far less weight in NASCAR. I remember back in the day when NASCAR drivers and teams would make fun of Indy and F1 teams for doing things like giving up spaces or something to help a teammate out. When the green dropped, the only car that mattered to a NASCAR team was THEIR car, not the one they park next to in the shop.
I also think the elimination/playoff format has contributed to this. Fighting tooth and nail for every win and every position in every single race is what mattered, not doing calculus on how many positions the teammate needs to secure a spot in the next round, and how many I can give up to help him out.
Again, this is all "old man shakes fist at clouds" at this point. They're not going to roll anything back like that. There's too much money involved now (even though the fanbase is shrinking). But this isn't a discuss that would have happened 20, 25, 30 years ago.
Crazy to do that to Brandon Jones with all that him and his dad has brought to JGR. Shows that he actually isn't a company man. Any car with Rheem on it is because of Jr. Jones. millions and millions for that.
He not the ceo of the company anymore
Man, you guys nailed it.
How talented would he have been driving sub par equipment.
The interview with Ty's father shows why Ty acts the way he does.
Ty Gibbs will never have a true teammate after that move. He clearly showed he don't care about anyone but himself.
Teammates in nascar is dumb anyway every driver should fend for themselves and this is one of the reasons why because a lot of drivers are not going to be content to sit back and just run 2nd.
If I was a nascar driver I wouldn't want no teammate. I wouldn't want to be like oh I can't do this move because my teammate is right there.
Or I can't do the bumper run like Jeff Gordon or Jeremy Mayfield because my teammate is right there and he might get collected in the wreak. You are restricted when you have a teammate on a race track it makes no sense.
Good stuff guys.
Ross Chastane move was the only option he had, which was to smash on the gas pedal to get ahead of 2 other drivers on the final turn. Any other driver would just have rode it out and not made the next rung of the playoffs. Luckily Chastain figured out how to be successful after smashing down on the gas pedal, which was to ride the wall.