Macross vs Gundam (マクロス vs ガンダム)

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  • @jonathanallen7439
    @jonathanallen7439 4 роки тому +30

    Q: Why make planes that turn into giant robots?
    A: Because you've found a mile long ship full of 40 foot aliens and an array of giant mechs they use for war that crashed on earth.

    • @mrdriver2988
      @mrdriver2988 4 роки тому +2

      Correct

    • @grayter
      @grayter 4 роки тому +4

      Roy Fokker* actually answers that question by the 2nd episode of Robotech..right after Rick sees the Giants for the first time and Roy shoots him from behind..going onto state "Now do you see why we have built these?"

  • @mrdriver2988
    @mrdriver2988 5 років тому +17

    I prefer macross. How can someone not hate missle massacre from a single fighter jet you know what i mean.

    • @thedoortalks9416
      @thedoortalks9416  4 роки тому

      We're planning to do a VS Rematch between Macross and Gundam.
      Which are the best Gundam and Macross Anime series' to watch?
      Excluding The ones above/movies/remakes.
      Any help would be great
      Thanks for watching
      Joe

    • @Bigmike130
      @Bigmike130 4 роки тому +1

      @@thedoortalks9416 zero, dyrl, plus, frontier and delta in that order. you can do 7 buts it hasnt aged too well and you get a history lesson in frontier and delta. macross 2 is alternate universe just fyi

    • @Bigmike130
      @Bigmike130 4 роки тому

      watch the delta movie much more condensed and better tbh
      the macross movies are considered cannon and story. dyrl, plus movie, frontier movies and delta movies. the series are kinda used to get content out fast and the movies are the actual story. confusing hey

    • @mrdriver2988
      @mrdriver2988 4 роки тому

      @@Bigmike130 yea the movies are great. But they do change the story a bit to make it fut in movie length. Still recomend watching the series tho just a personal opinion

    • @Bigmike130
      @Bigmike130 4 роки тому

      @@mrdriver2988 oh yeah totally i watch them all, just was stating what is considered cannon

  • @zoecarlibur
    @zoecarlibur 4 роки тому +11

    Macross Zero was great, But Gundam has been consistent and showing what fans really care about. Cool Giant robots firing missiles. Wish Macross could return to its origin; it would have been be far better

  • @hagebunshin
    @hagebunshin 4 роки тому +9

    Macross: Undearage girl going solo city pop, (Twilight stuff) Nice Animation. Why is important to have a girlfriend.
    Gundam: People dying with facts. (excuse to sell giant robot merch) Why do we fight?

  • @grahamaker2513
    @grahamaker2513 3 роки тому +6

    All macross mech are gangsta until the psycho zaku and the full armor joins the battle.

    • @barrybend7189
      @barrybend7189 Рік тому

      Haha VF-25 does 30G turns

    • @mattmaddogwheaton4724
      @mattmaddogwheaton4724 9 місяців тому

      Pfft, someone's never heard of the Armored Valkyrie, especially the VF-25.

    • @grahamaker2513
      @grahamaker2513 8 місяців тому

      @@mattmaddogwheaton4724 bro you're 3years late

    • @grahamaker2513
      @grahamaker2513 8 місяців тому

      @@barrybend7189 nah ghost V9s are more than enough

  • @azander1958
    @azander1958 2 роки тому +4

    Drama is more on drama
    Gundam is more focus on war
    Both are good in their own ways
    Anyways I still can't vote on who's better since I like both of them

  • @gunbuckybucketman4578
    @gunbuckybucketman4578 2 роки тому +2

    OP machine : Gundam.
    Unmatched skill : Macross

  • @PM-1
    @PM-1 4 роки тому +6

    I always thought gundam’s having Vulcan Guns mounted on its head made sense 😂

  • @Hakuru15
    @Hakuru15 3 роки тому +12

    3:28 oh quick explaination for that is when they entered the crash alien ship they realised the interior they were walking in and analysed the entire place they figured out “okay whoever used to man the ship are freaking huge”

  • @greygalaxy8638
    @greygalaxy8638 3 роки тому +4

    Makes me sad. Honestly, a Gundam working with a Valkyrie would be unstoppable.

  • @jonathanallen7439
    @jonathanallen7439 4 роки тому +10

    What makes macros better?
    Zeon has tried to destroy the Earth multiple times using the same tactic repeatedly and failed.
    The Zentraedi literally succeeded on the first try.
    4.8 million warships > Colony/Asteroid drops

    • @falkyrie5228
      @falkyrie5228 2 роки тому +1

      Because Zeon wasn't trying to destroy Earth, they were fighting for independence, dropping colonies on Earth was just their version of Little Boy and Fat Man.

  • @hellyeal1516
    @hellyeal1516 5 років тому +11

    I prefer gundam because it cool and it have a lot of good story line. One of my childhood show is gundam wing and it bring to building gunpla.

  • @thedoortalks9416
    @thedoortalks9416  4 роки тому +1

    We're planning to do a VS Rematch between Macross and Gundam.
    Which are the best Gundam and Macross Anime series' to watch?
    Excluding The ones above/movies/remakes.
    Any help would be great
    Thanks for watching
    Joe

    • @puffside
      @puffside 4 роки тому +1

      I think besides the OG Macross and it's movie version called Macross Do You Remember Love, the best series are definitely Macross Plus and Macross Frontier

    • @thedoortalks9416
      @thedoortalks9416  4 роки тому

      @@puffside Hi, we did a rematch with Macross Plus vs Gundam wing, for our 90s Macross but we're looking at doing a 2000/2010 era VS down the line, so if you have any suggestions please let us know. Thanks
      Joe (I loved Macross Plus)
      ua-cam.com/video/GgDncchYiEg/v-deo.html

  • @jmsta.romana4660
    @jmsta.romana4660 2 роки тому +1

    If we would be including other Gundam series, it can be very hard for Macross since the other series have OP Machines, but with Macross's Skill they might be fine... Considering that Gundam has Amuro Ray. Amuro Ray is the most talented and skilled Gundam Pilot, with his Char's Counterattack Suits (Nu Gundam and Hi-Nu Gundam which is also known as the King of Gundam) will give them a bad time. Or even the whole Gundam Universe would possibly defeat Macross, but the rookie ones like GM and Zaku II would die easily.

  • @Hakuru15
    @Hakuru15 3 роки тому +17

    I just love the aesthetics of the VF-1 series. The fact that they turned F-14 Tomcats into mecha was pretty dope

  • @superzilla784
    @superzilla784 4 роки тому +4

    Honestly, I prefer Gundam for a number of reasons
    First off, I think the stories are better. such as the original Gundam's story. the Origin movies are by far some of my favorites, not only showing the story of Char but also how the One Year War started. assassinations, public executions, lies, martial laws, riots, crime waves, revolutions. the One Year War was started off as a fight for independence but then became a war for control over the Earth. it's as if the Revolutionary War and WWII happened at the same time while giant robots stomped around. in the end, the lines were being blurred as to who the real villain was. sure, the Zabi family killed Char's father to take his power and start the war, but the EFF wasn't exactly full of saints themselves. when the riots started, they opened fire on unarmed civilians to scare the other colonies into submitting, but only escalated matters further, giving them even more reason to rebel. saying the shit hit the fan was an understatement. Zeon's support for revolution was growing by the day. it was all a time bomb waiting to explode, and you got to see the war from so many different points of views. Gundam: Thunderbolt, Gundam: 8th MS Team, Gundam: War in A Pocket. these are where the lines between good and evil began to blur. so many of the soldiers from both sides were people who fought for what they believed in. Zeon fought for freedom, and EFF fought to restore order. it was hard to choose a side
    For Macross... honestly... I only watched for the Zentradi. I've never been a fan of romance stories, which Macross has no shortage of, and most of them are the same. a noob pilot falling in love with a idol pop star. I wanted to see more of Klan Klang and Emilia Jenius. two giant ladies that rocked. and music being used as a weapon most of the time because the aliens have never heard music? that was interesting the first time but kinda started to ware out, which is why I wanted more focus on the Zentradi rather than another teen jerking off to a girl too good for him. heck, Klan losing Mikhail was sad. she even turned his helmet into a good luck charm that she now wears into battle. too bad we don't get much focus on it
    So I easily choose Gundam over Macross. the mechs might be more advanced but I got alot more story and character out of Gundam. plus, there's that kickass theme song
    ua-cam.com/video/b40mZVnQCTs/v-deo.html

  • @mr_geekchic2899
    @mr_geekchic2899 Рік тому

    They knew SDF-1 had a super weapon, its the Booby trap they didn't know about hahaha

  • @Mr_Movie_Fan
    @Mr_Movie_Fan 4 роки тому +6

    Macross>Gundam
    FIGHT ME!!!

    • @thedoortalks9416
      @thedoortalks9416  4 роки тому +1

      We're planning to do a VS Rematch between Macross and Gundam.
      Which are the best Gundam and Macross Anime series' to watch?
      Excluding The ones above/movies/remakes.
      Any help would be great
      Thanks for watching
      Joe

    • @Mr_Movie_Fan
      @Mr_Movie_Fan 4 роки тому +1

      @@thedoortalks9416 I would actually reccomend checking out their movies this time. Gundam: Char's counterattack, and Macross: Do you remember love. The second one can be found on a UA-cam channel called "Macross". But if you want to stick to shows. Gundam: Unicorn (which is on Netflix) and Macross: Plus (you're on your own there, because I don't know where to find that one. I've only seen its pilot episode and I felt like it was on par with Unicorn

    • @mrdriver2988
      @mrdriver2988 4 роки тому +2

      Macross has far more superior technology than Gundam. Gundam still hasn't even be able to get out of their own solar system while in Macross they hace already expanded to almost all of the Milky way.

    • @ervamoten5830
      @ervamoten5830 4 роки тому +1

      @@mrdriver2988 Ah, I see Macross's Space Magic vs Gundam's pseudo-science

    • @mrdriver2988
      @mrdriver2988 4 роки тому +1

      @@ervamoten5830 not really both Gundam and Macross are Pseudo Science. You have only seen the singing side which it is basically space magic like the force. The thing is the other way they sing in space is by transmitting the song through all frequencies to each ship for singers that don't have special ability that some singers have in Macross.

  • @krrrimmi8343
    @krrrimmi8343 5 років тому +8

    THE DIFFERENCE IS: Mobile suit Gundam is heavily-amored(gundamium alloy). It's indestructable, even a bomb explosion. While Batroid Valkyrie is not.
    GUNDAM wins.

    • @mrdriver2988
      @mrdriver2988 5 років тому +3

      Thats the problem the gundam they are to overpowered like toooo toooo overpowered some of them you can't kill with out plot armor! But i do enjoy gundum. Macross tho is my prefer just love them jet designs there hot!

    • @arx3516
      @arx3516 4 роки тому +2

      That's the price you pay for the transformation gimmick.

    • @giathuanleviet4138
      @giathuanleviet4138 4 роки тому +2

      Lol no, the Macross Valkyrie Fighter although seem like fragile how ever are extreme armored, you can see they ram in to building and others heavily armored mech ( Zentradi Troop ) all the time with little to no damage, on top of that after VF-19 every VF have personal Pin point barrier
      The Gatling (GAU-55) gun used by "VF-1" have ammo pack at least three time the power of the 120mm gun equip on current Abram tank and recently in Macross Frontier have Minigun that shot mini black hole at 6000RPM
      Weaponize Music in Macross can mind control on universe size level
      And they also have MINI Dimension Eater Missile that make a black hole and destroy everything in 50KM DIAMETER
      Macross Universe eat Gundam for dinner

    • @Bigmike130
      @Bigmike130 4 роки тому +2

      @@giathuanleviet4138 lets also point out the million sized fleets of other zentradis, macross class ship that can basically destroy a small fleet on their own. Gundam as a multiverse is extreamly outgunned and out numbered. gundams only real win would be the turn a or turn x. all gundam superweapons are big yawn for macross.

    • @giathuanleviet4138
      @giathuanleviet4138 4 роки тому

      ​@@Bigmike130 If i remember Devil Gundam have to touch any thing to destroy it
      And Turn A Gundam while impressive still not comparable to Macross ship which have FTL folding technology and Dimension Canon with 280000km range, Sensor with light day range, they will just fold out and snipe him easily, or send an X-9 with Dimesion Eater and walala no more problem
      And also the problem with Gundam is the limited force, Human in 2059 outman and outgun Gundam 1000 to 1 and this is not counting the Zentradi which would make thi 1000000 with 6 zero to 1
      And Humanity also have time travel in Macross if i remember, so wining is INEVITABLE
      Or easier they just throw Basara at every thing and win

  • @mrdriver2988
    @mrdriver2988 4 роки тому +7

    Prefer Macross. Uhh who wouldn't love to fly a f-14 tomcat that transforms.

    • @ervamoten5830
      @ervamoten5830 4 роки тому

      What about the MSZ-006 Zeta Gundam, MSZ-010 ZZ Gundam (pronounced Double Zeta), MSN-00100 Hyaku Shiki, or the RX-104FF Penelope, and The RX-105 Xi Gundam?
      They are apart of Project Zeta which heavily focuses on transformable Mobile Suits and Gundam development.

    • @mrdriver2988
      @mrdriver2988 4 роки тому

      @@ervamoten5830 it just doesn't give of the wow and cool factor that the fighter jets in Macross have, because Shoji Kawamori based all aircraft from the VF-1 and the later series in Macross out of real life Aircraft's he was also went to areo-dynamics school and has been to Nasa and Military air bases. He made the Variable Fighters as realistic as possible for a Sci-Fi series.
      All Naval combat in Macross is also based on real life combat on carrier strike groups shooting from beyond visual range with missiles and naval guns, the AA weapons as well each ship filled with SAM and Lazer ciws, intence rate of fire.
      He makes it look possible for use to retro-fit an actual F-14 to do this. Even the power source they use is in the realm of possible, using Thermal Nuclear engines.
      Yes Shoji Kawamori bases most technology in the series with real life physics and tactics it is not a super robot genre like what some Gundam seiers are (Gunbuster ummmm..)
      The Macross Class are the Capitol ship the super Carriers with the Anti-Fleet gun they are the most powerful ship and asset they have and what real life carrier groups do carriers are protected by destroyers and cruisers because air craft carriers are the most important part. They launch air-craft to be both the sword and sheild of the fleet with naval salvos and missiles as back up.

    • @ervamoten5830
      @ervamoten5830 4 роки тому

      @@mrdriver2988 Cool, I'm not a Gundam Elitist but cool.

    • @ervamoten5830
      @ervamoten5830 4 роки тому

      Hm, nope no Gundam series are super robots they're most Pseudo-science on extreme steroids, with ridiculous energy outputs.

    • @ervamoten5830
      @ervamoten5830 4 роки тому

      Even Mobile Fighter G Gundam, at the surface looks like a super robot series but it's really not that's just an artistic style to attract the audiences attention, pilots in G Gundam don't use any formal controls, but use a Motion-capture haptic suit so the Gundam moves however your body moves.

  • @lightning_4480
    @lightning_4480 5 років тому +2

    I love gundam Wing and gundam 00

    • @thedoortalks9416
      @thedoortalks9416  4 роки тому

      We're planning to do a VS Rematch between Macross and Gundam.
      Which are the best Gundam and Macross Anime series' to watch?
      Excluding The ones above/movies/remakes.
      Any help would be great
      Thanks for watching
      Joe

  • @samuelvelez1643
    @samuelvelez1643 4 роки тому +2

    How about the perfect gundam base better than SDF-1

  • @slyngn7847
    @slyngn7847 Рік тому

    I just recently finished watching SDF Macross and the whole time I couldn't help but think it was a "discount" Mobile Suit Gundam and kept drawing comparisons between the two.
    Tell me if this sounds familiar.
    - So there are these battle mechs that can transform.
    - A big, powerful, and advanced space warship, that gets under attack by an enemy (with green ships might I add).
    - They have to use it to evacuate civilians and fight off the enemy while fleeing into space.
    - Make a perilous journey back to Earth for help.
    - We have a main character that's a civilian that reluctantly joins the military and gets treated like dirt by a superior.
    How does Macross _not_ sound like Mobile Suit Gundam?
    Even the Macross and White Base don't look too different, but to be fair the Macross is bigger, looks more like a carrier, and can transform.
    And to drive the point home, here are some tidbit *SPOILERS* of the likeness.
    They even have a blond hot-shot veteran pilot with a love interest who dies! And they killed the burly pilot.
    Now I'm not saying SDF Macross is bad. It does a whole lot to stand on its own from Gundam and I've certainly enjoyed it for the most part.

    • @UToobUsername01
      @UToobUsername01 5 місяців тому

      Macross is an improved Space Cruiser Yamato. But with transforming mechas.

  • @ironflowerrevolution9165
    @ironflowerrevolution9165 5 років тому +4

    Gundam win of the newtype

    • @mrdriver2988
      @mrdriver2988 5 років тому

      Macross also got a lot of upgrades theough the pass season especially macross frontier with the reaction missles and Dimensional Eaters which can be attached to almost any weapons platform.

    • @ironflowerrevolution9165
      @ironflowerrevolution9165 4 роки тому

      My reasonGundam weapons are more better dangerous the colony laser destroy fleet ship and Moonlight Butterfly System can turn a city into Sand and there system help pilot in mobile suit

    • @ervamoten5830
      @ervamoten5830 4 роки тому +1

      @@ironflowerrevolution9165 Lol, let's insert the three unicorn gundams and Nu gundam in macross let's see how well macross will do. PSYCHO FRAME POWER!! 😂

    • @sembarangjaknama
      @sembarangjaknama 3 роки тому

      @@ervamoten5830 lets welcome those 4 with 1 piece of MDE missile from VF-25 and let see how they can survive that.

    • @sembarangjaknama
      @sembarangjaknama 3 роки тому

      @@ironflowerrevolution9165 Can your "Colony Laser" do this? ua-cam.com/video/uULjjKgHPkE/v-deo.html

  • @mrdriver2988
    @mrdriver2988 5 років тому +2

    In the macross series the newer macross ships are more improved and look way better and less weird from the first one where the two giant laser things? Is now a portable hudge mounted gun underneath the bow of the ship which as usual blows up the whole battlefeild in like a single shot WHEN fully charged (in the new series they never really fully charge their macross cannon so you actually never get to see a full charged shot except SDF macross). If you dont like idol anime well macross really becomes a mixture of mecha pluss idol but more recently its more on idol in the new macross delta which i really don't mind as their songs(well most songs in evey series) i do really enjoy listening to thats my opinion.

    • @ervamoten5830
      @ervamoten5830 4 роки тому

      Spam Minovsky particles.

    • @mrdriver2988
      @mrdriver2988 4 роки тому

      @@ervamoten5830 they are the power source of the Gundams tho

  • @ThePress00
    @ThePress00 4 роки тому +4

    I prefer Gundam stories, but that's because I hate the drama macross has. "while you fight, I sing! " lmao get out, people are dying and they focus on glamour. The music's pretty cool though.
    However, Valkyries seem much more versatile to me. That you can unplug stuff from them and still have a convertible suit seemed pretty cool. And I say that loving the Dynames ❤️

    • @mrdriver2988
      @mrdriver2988 4 роки тому

      A song to stop a war, unite under a song a universal thing that everyone agrees to enjoy music. Music the history of and accumilation human culture passed down by generations.
      Macross just expanded on that to other Aliens.

    • @sembarangjaknama
      @sembarangjaknama 3 роки тому

      If you underestimate all that song, then its only matter of time before the entire Zeon and EFSF forces turned into mindless pawn.

  • @ViewpointProd
    @ViewpointProd 3 роки тому

    you decide to research macross but can not even PRONOUNCE IT'S NAME, IT'S NOT MCROSS IT'S MACROSS

  • @gundam5281
    @gundam5281 2 роки тому

    Macross/ Robotech literally is NOTHING against Gundam. So, but that's the cold-hearted truth.

  • @joeporch2882
    @joeporch2882 4 роки тому +1

    Robotech allday!!

  • @gundam5281
    @gundam5281 2 роки тому +3

    Macross/ Robotech literally is NOTHING against Gundam. So, but that's the cold-hearted truth.