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pode explicar rápido qual é o sentido que você aplica por RLS? a maioria dos personagens eu nem li, então não posso argumentar, mas sinceramente, não vejo como Yokoya não destrói os dois em qualquer tipo de situação
@@Oyasumi_Editor as estrategias usando dinheiro infinito de yokoya não são muito realistas, sem contar que boa parte das manipulações dele são obviamente uma armadilha mas os personagens perdem a capacidade de pensar na hora devido a narrativa da historia, yokoya até tem alguns bons feitos realistas como no jogo das danças da cadeira, mas tambem tem varias jogadas dele que não são realistas. Mas no geral ele é um bom personagem pra RLS, Mas os feitos de oreki e hachiman sao melhores em rls
@@NejizinhoO0 fico feliz que eu tô pelo menos conversando com alguém que entende e pelo menos se deu o trabalho de ler o mangá, mas você não realmente apresentou feitos, e só disse algumas bobeiras sobre o Yokoya Segundo ele defintivamente tem muitos feitos e principalmente, não depende apenas de narrativa, ele é um personagem extremamente consistente e eu diria que até tão criativo e realista quanto Akiyama Terceiro, eu não sei se você entendeu o conceito de RLS (RLS, se refere a capacidade de um personagem de subir na vida em situações de vida real, que considera, escola, conhecimento, vida profissional e etc, o que particularmente, o Yokoya destrói até mesmo o Akiyama em RLS) O que você quer dizer não é RLS, e sim Stop Scaling, que é uma forma de escalar personagens sem utilizar feitos irreais e feitos não mostrados em tela (Yokoya ainda destrói os dois em Stop Scaling)
@@NejizinhoO0 e apenas mencionar os jogo das cadeiras não contribui, já que ele tem feitos muito mais insanos no jogo do Contrabando, Bid Poker, Leilão de Escravos e o Four Kingdoms (onde ele literalmente acha uma estratégia tão boa que pode até "vencer" o Akiyama)
You're mixing up RLS and Stop scaling. Both are highly different from the other. An character can still be unrealistic in RLS unless you use stop scaling + RLS which prohibits unexplained and illogical feats. If this is actually RLS then all of the people here (except Oreki and Hachiman) wins in RLS. Plus even if RLS somehow became stop scaling, most characters who have explained and logical feats even though unrealistic would be able to apply feats in stop scaling. That's how Fang Yuan is really great in Stop scaling. Though his feats is unrealistic, it's still highly explained and pretty logical which means most of his feats is allowed and applicable in stop scaling. Same goes for the others
Lelouch is well written and also realistic to some point, and Yuuichi is way more realistic than Ayanokoji. I also disagree some takes but you just put "easy" so I can't tell if you actually know the character or not
Yes, i know all the characters i put in the video, the only ones i put as "easy" were dazai,siesta,kokichi and junko which i thought there would be no way for anyone to disagree with, lelouch is definitely very well written, but his deeds are not are in no way realistic, and i don't know in which way yuuichi would be more realistic than ayanokoji
@@TheHandofDestiny There's no way I can agree, Yuuichi's narrative is always much more about what he does to his opponents than him anticipating how they will act, which is exactly how it works in real life, people don't act according to you wants, while Ayanokoji manufactures his manipulations with time, which is exactly what one should do in real life. Honestly, off the top of my head I can't even remember any realistic feats by Yuuichi
@NejizinhoO0 Of course they act how he wants them to act, he is a manipulative mastermind who's understanding of human nature and great EI and SI allow him to do so, that is exactly how the real world works, people in power do this exact same thing constantly, Yuuichi is very realistic, his tactics and methods are very practical and can be reliably used in real life, in fact it happens all the time in the world, and that is a massive misunderstanding of Yuuichi you have there it seems, one of Yuuichi's greatest skills is his Psychoanalysis of people and their personality analysis, after an interaction with someone he can get a very good idea of what they're going to do when certainthings happen, he can easily know someone better than they know themselves, this is something that happens a lot in the real world as well, Yuuichi's narrative can be whatever you think it is, but to call it unrealistic or not how the world works is extremely naive, anyone who is in a position of some power at the very least does exactly that all the time, the only unrealistic thing about Yuuichi I can see, is that he easily has the capability to make it to the top of all swindlers but chooses not to in favor of a more "humble" and normal life, give anyone his skills and they will almost certainly use it to gain massive advantages over people, being able to make people do what you want and predicting and anticipating what they're going to do are both realistic things, and are both things Yuuichi does
@NejizinhoO0 Yuuichi's "narrative" is also just as much predictions and anticipation as is making people do what he wants, he is able to do that because he can anticipate what people are going to do after analyzing them, not to mention there is an entire special chapter in tomodachi Game that is a pure RLS, and Yuuichi navigated it very well for his skills
Are you using stop scaling? If so the diff for siesta does make sense but Ion think it's a neg diff tbh, she does have logical and realistic feats like the hanako case (tactics + reasoning + observation) v7 case (mostly off-screen but she explained how she inferred why the man did not have any good intentions, abduction, also the bruno note where she knew who it was and arrived at a logical conclusion like kimizuka) Overall I think it should be atleast no diff or low, but W edit nonetheless
I feel like light has realistic feats, such as with his step by step processes and the bus scene with manipulating the FBI agent... Anyways in terms of a RLS, there can be variations such as from scratch, or with influence, but adding hax to outsmarting could show if the "realistic characters" can still win... Anyways I'm the person who likes to use stop-scaling, normal scaling and PA for feats/statements and for the opponent/setting they are in
the step by step of the light bus scene? As this would be realistic, he basically dictated what was going to happen by writing in a notebook that tracks the actions prior to a person's death. There is no such notebook in real life. and I'm sorry but I don't know which part you're referring to about the FBI agent's manipulation
I think you're slightly overestimating the COTE position So sakayanagi is good but Ngumo? No chairman would behave like that, besides, every school is ruled by the principal xd in reality, he wouldn't be able to do almost anything there xdd
a normal school is considered by the director, but this is not the case with the cote school, as I said without the influence, I really don't think there is much to do, but with the influence of hundreds of people at your disposal, anyone can formulate good confrontation strategies. and I consider arisu above because his achievements are much more concrete than nagumo's
@@NejizinhoO0 Death Note I can't comment on because I read it over 5 years ago so I only remember the writing techniques (because those stand out more in my mind and it was before I was interested in outsmarting). Tomodachi Game I'm only familiar with Yuuichi's scaling in fixed situations because that is what the series focuses on. I realized my original comment should've specified a bit more, sorry about that.
Light obliterates both. Ll will eat them alive, He didn't strategize first three episodes with his eyes no? S1 ll >> Both. First half light> Both, Koji>>>>Both, even Ryueen victimizes. Everything is unrealistic in his opinion. And he can't even debate.
W Video. I think you're right, but if you threw in Hannibal Lecter, Sherlock Holmes, Patrick Jane it would be over he he. I see you love Arisu. But would it really work in a real life situation?
What I did was basically compare only the realistic feats of the characters, and adapt them to an RLS, Arisu is in fact one of my favorite characters, literally a little girl 1 meter and 50 tall with a physical disability who can control an entire room.
The book 48 Laws of Power is not a valid source to claim something is realistic. The books lacks scientific evidence to back up the claims being presented, as it mostly references historical anecdotes and patterns in power dynamics instead of empirical psychological or sociological research. As far as real life is concerned, the laws mentioned in the book are more like personal opinions backed by a reasonable amount of reasoning, but are in no way scientifically valid or accurate. Cherry picking historical events in the first place is a type of confirmation bias, what about the hundreds of historical events that do not align with the premise of the book? The author's methodology is generalized at best and fallacious at worst. On top of that, Robert Greene isn't even a psychologist or anything. He has a bachelor in classical studies, so he isn't even qualified in the subject matter he's talking about. Again, his efforts are very much appreciated, but his book should not be treated as the end-all-be-all for realistic behavior/outsmarting/manipulation. Finally, Ayanokoji's manipulation itself is quite unrealistic despite what you may think. His most prominent modus operandi is to break down others and rebuild them again, but that's not how it works in real life. People don't tend to recover or respond positively to the kind of manipulation he is performing, so if he were doing this irl, his success rate would not be high at all. The best examples of this are his strategy with Ichinose in Y1V9 and Y2V12, as well as his manipulation of Kei and the way he convinced Hirata in Y1V11.
I completely understand your point of view, and I agree with several of the points you presented, but I am forced to point out that we cannot use books as a basis for analyzing achievements, it is true that most of them do not have a scientific basis, but are real representations of the self. experience of the historical figures that are written, as you said, it is a fact that there are several situations, even if similar, manipulation would not work as it could have worked before. Humans in themselves are complex, so it is necessary to know the situation better than the person in order to be able to manipulate it, just like the city, in the book of Nicolas Machiavelli. As for Ayanokoji's way of manipulating and destroying and rebuilding the character being unrealistic, I completely agree that in real life there would be little chance of success, but this is not by far the only type of manipulation that Ayanokoji uses in the work.
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pode explicar rápido qual é o sentido que você aplica por RLS? a maioria dos personagens eu nem li, então não posso argumentar, mas sinceramente, não vejo como Yokoya não destrói os dois em qualquer tipo de situação
@@Oyasumi_Editor as estrategias usando dinheiro infinito de yokoya não são muito realistas, sem contar que boa parte das manipulações dele são obviamente uma armadilha mas os personagens perdem a capacidade de pensar na hora devido a narrativa da historia, yokoya até tem alguns bons feitos realistas como no jogo das danças da cadeira, mas tambem tem varias jogadas dele que não são realistas. Mas no geral ele é um bom personagem pra RLS, Mas os feitos de oreki e hachiman sao melhores em rls
@@NejizinhoO0 fico feliz que eu tô pelo menos conversando com alguém que entende e pelo menos se deu o trabalho de ler o mangá, mas você não realmente apresentou feitos, e só disse algumas bobeiras sobre o Yokoya
Segundo ele defintivamente tem muitos feitos e principalmente, não depende apenas de narrativa, ele é um personagem extremamente consistente e eu diria que até tão criativo e realista quanto Akiyama
Terceiro, eu não sei se você entendeu o conceito de RLS (RLS, se refere a capacidade de um personagem de subir na vida em situações de vida real, que considera, escola, conhecimento, vida profissional e etc, o que particularmente, o Yokoya destrói até mesmo o Akiyama em RLS)
O que você quer dizer não é RLS, e sim Stop Scaling, que é uma forma de escalar personagens sem utilizar feitos irreais e feitos não mostrados em tela (Yokoya ainda destrói os dois em Stop Scaling)
@@NejizinhoO0 e apenas mencionar os jogo das cadeiras não contribui, já que ele tem feitos muito mais insanos no jogo do Contrabando, Bid Poker, Leilão de Escravos e o Four Kingdoms (onde ele literalmente acha uma estratégia tão boa que pode até "vencer" o Akiyama)
You're mixing up RLS and Stop scaling. Both are highly different from the other. An character can still be unrealistic in RLS unless you use stop scaling + RLS which prohibits unexplained and illogical feats. If this is actually RLS then all of the people here (except Oreki and Hachiman) wins in RLS. Plus even if RLS somehow became stop scaling, most characters who have explained and logical feats even though unrealistic would be able to apply feats in stop scaling. That's how Fang Yuan is really great in Stop scaling. Though his feats is unrealistic, it's still highly explained and pretty logical which means most of his feats is allowed and applicable in stop scaling. Same goes for the others
W edit and holy take
You drop this -----> big L
Yuuichi >= Hachiman & oreki > Ayanokouji [irl situation]
are you stupid
Ah yes the two grip reapers of NFS Johan and Friend totally get no-diffed by these two
Also according to your logic Akiyama > Yokoya no diff???
Lelouch is well written and also realistic to some point, and Yuuichi is way more realistic than Ayanokoji. I also disagree some takes but you just put "easy" so I can't tell if you actually know the character or not
Yes, i know all the characters i put in the video, the only ones i put as "easy" were dazai,siesta,kokichi and junko which i thought there would be no way for anyone to disagree with, lelouch is definitely very well written, but his deeds are not are in no way realistic, and i don't know in which way yuuichi would be more realistic than ayanokoji
Yeah, Yuuichi is vastly more realistic than Ayanokoji, solos both of them easily realistically as well
@@TheHandofDestiny There's no way I can agree, Yuuichi's narrative is always much more about what he does to his opponents than him anticipating how they will act, which is exactly how it works in real life, people don't act according to you wants, while Ayanokoji manufactures his manipulations with time, which is exactly what one should do in real life. Honestly, off the top of my head I can't even remember any realistic feats by Yuuichi
@NejizinhoO0 Of course they act how he wants them to act, he is a manipulative mastermind who's understanding of human nature and great EI and SI allow him to do so, that is exactly how the real world works, people in power do this exact same thing constantly, Yuuichi is very realistic, his tactics and methods are very practical and can be reliably used in real life, in fact it happens all the time in the world, and that is a massive misunderstanding of Yuuichi you have there it seems, one of Yuuichi's greatest skills is his Psychoanalysis of people and their personality analysis, after an interaction with someone he can get a very good idea of what they're going to do when certainthings happen, he can easily know someone better than they know themselves, this is something that happens a lot in the real world as well, Yuuichi's narrative can be whatever you think it is, but to call it unrealistic or not how the world works is extremely naive, anyone who is in a position of some power at the very least does exactly that all the time, the only unrealistic thing about Yuuichi I can see, is that he easily has the capability to make it to the top of all swindlers but chooses not to in favor of a more "humble" and normal life, give anyone his skills and they will almost certainly use it to gain massive advantages over people, being able to make people do what you want and predicting and anticipating what they're going to do are both realistic things, and are both things Yuuichi does
@NejizinhoO0 Yuuichi's "narrative" is also just as much predictions and anticipation as is making people do what he wants, he is able to do that because he can anticipate what people are going to do after analyzing them, not to mention there is an entire special chapter in tomodachi Game that is a pure RLS, and Yuuichi navigated it very well for his skills
W edit....
Are you using stop scaling? If so the diff for siesta does make sense but Ion think it's a neg diff tbh, she does have logical and realistic feats like the hanako case (tactics + reasoning + observation) v7 case (mostly off-screen but she explained how she inferred why the man did not have any good intentions, abduction, also the bruno note where she knew who it was and arrived at a logical conclusion like kimizuka) Overall I think it should be atleast no diff or low, but W edit nonetheless
W boa edit Mano
obrigado mano
I feel like light has realistic feats, such as with his step by step processes and the bus scene with manipulating the FBI agent... Anyways in terms of a RLS, there can be variations such as from scratch, or with influence, but adding hax to outsmarting could show if the "realistic characters" can still win... Anyways I'm the person who likes to use stop-scaling, normal scaling and PA for feats/statements and for the opponent/setting they are in
the step by step of the light bus scene? As this would be realistic, he basically dictated what was going to happen by writing in a notebook that tracks the actions prior to a person's death. There is no such notebook in real life. and I'm sorry but I don't know which part you're referring to about the FBI agent's manipulation
for bait content to work give us something to hate on, all we got was oreki and hachiman win
I think you're slightly overestimating the COTE position
So sakayanagi is good but Ngumo?
No chairman would behave like that, besides, every school is ruled by the principal xd
in reality, he wouldn't be able to do almost anything there xdd
a normal school is considered by the director, but this is not the case with the cote school, as I said without the influence, I really don't think there is much to do, but with the influence of hundreds of people at your disposal, anyone can formulate good confrontation strategies. and I consider arisu above because his achievements are much more concrete than nagumo's
Muito bom, mano
Muito obrigado ✌
The edit looks great, most of the takes I cannot comment on since I've never read the source materials of them.
Never read tomodachi game or death note?
@@NejizinhoO0 Death Note I can't comment on because I read it over 5 years ago so I only remember the writing techniques (because those stand out more in my mind and it was before I was interested in outsmarting). Tomodachi Game I'm only familiar with Yuuichi's scaling in fixed situations because that is what the series focuses on. I realized my original comment should've specified a bit more, sorry about that.
@@Zolaris-mx8lm No problem, thanks for your comment. Anyway, both Light and Yuuichi don't have many realistic achievements, so they lose easily
Light obliterates both. Ll will eat them alive, He didn't strategize first three episodes with his eyes no? S1 ll >> Both. First half light> Both, Koji>>>>Both, even Ryueen victimizes. Everything is unrealistic in his opinion. And he can't even debate.
Baku victims
Yokoya >>>>
Plus Aki no diffs Koji in rls
Great edit nonethless
W Video.
I think you're right, but if you threw in Hannibal Lecter, Sherlock Holmes, Patrick Jane it would be over he he.
I see you love Arisu.
But would it really work in a real life situation?
What I did was basically compare only the realistic feats of the characters, and adapt them to an RLS, Arisu is in fact one of my favorite characters, literally a little girl 1 meter and 50 tall with a physical disability who can control an entire room.
Please tell me if it contains Johan, Friend, and Usogue characters
It doesn’t contain usegoi characters
ayanokoji is more realistic than yuuichi? lmao
no surprises
@@NejizinhoO0🤡💯
Allat too be bazarov vicitma in writing and fang yuan victim in outsmarting
The book 48 Laws of Power is not a valid source to claim something is realistic. The books lacks scientific evidence to back up the claims being presented, as it mostly references historical anecdotes and patterns in power dynamics instead of empirical psychological or sociological research. As far as real life is concerned, the laws mentioned in the book are more like personal opinions backed by a reasonable amount of reasoning, but are in no way scientifically valid or accurate. Cherry picking historical events in the first place is a type of confirmation bias, what about the hundreds of historical events that do not align with the premise of the book? The author's methodology is generalized at best and fallacious at worst.
On top of that, Robert Greene isn't even a psychologist or anything. He has a bachelor in classical studies, so he isn't even qualified in the subject matter he's talking about. Again, his efforts are very much appreciated, but his book should not be treated as the end-all-be-all for realistic behavior/outsmarting/manipulation.
Finally, Ayanokoji's manipulation itself is quite unrealistic despite what you may think. His most prominent modus operandi is to break down others and rebuild them again, but that's not how it works in real life. People don't tend to recover or respond positively to the kind of manipulation he is performing, so if he were doing this irl, his success rate would not be high at all. The best examples of this are his strategy with Ichinose in Y1V9 and Y2V12, as well as his manipulation of Kei and the way he convinced Hirata in Y1V11.
I completely understand your point of view, and I agree with several of the points you presented, but I am forced to point out that we cannot use books as a basis for analyzing achievements, it is true that most of them do not have a scientific basis, but are real representations of the self. experience of the historical figures that are written, as you said, it is a fact that there are several situations, even if similar, manipulation would not work as it could have worked before. Humans in themselves are complex, so it is necessary to know the situation better than the person in order to be able to manipulate it, just like the city, in the book of Nicolas Machiavelli. As for Ayanokoji's way of manipulating and destroying and rebuilding the character being unrealistic, I completely agree that in real life there would be little chance of success, but this is not by far the only type of manipulation that Ayanokoji uses in the work.
Can you do the same with FSIQ, EQ, PSI and FSI, manip and outsmarting
@@controller_player3868 I didn't understand
@@NejizinhoO0 Compare in other situations like a cat and mouse with Oreki and hachiman vs smart characters
@@controller_player3868 ohhh good idea
W edit and take oreki and hachiman slam in rls
I agree but i will give L Johan and ligh low diff while ryuen is mid diff but W edit
Do you think light feats are realistic?
Bro what about Baku and Hal?
I haven't read the Usogui game yet, so I can't give an opinion on them.
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Flynn victims
stop at Johan
Both koji victim