A Better Selvala, Heart of the Wilds cEDH Primer - Part One - Core Strategy & Infinite Mana Loops

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  • Опубліковано 29 вер 2024

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  • @TheSpikeFeeders
    @TheSpikeFeeders 5 років тому +60

    Congrats on your first episode!
    Your video and sound quality are awesome, and you seem very comfortable in front of the camera. I also really appreciate how you organize your thoughts into major categories.
    You've earned a snap subscribe from us!

    • @LocalGameGroup
      @LocalGameGroup  5 років тому +4

      Heyyy, *thank you!* Much appreciated. My pals and I love cEDH and if we can help to make our format more popular that’s enough. Looking forward to producing much more work throughout 2019 🤘 Be well crew and thanks again for the sub! -Patrick

    • @adriannathaniel3894
      @adriannathaniel3894 3 роки тому

      I dig when channel's support channel! It's all about growth. The mtg community overall rocks!

  • @NeuroticLobster
    @NeuroticLobster 5 років тому +1

    Great stuff! I appreciate that you didn't waste time reading out all the cards...if someone is watching this, then they already know or should know most of them anyway.

    • @LocalGameGroup
      @LocalGameGroup  5 років тому +1

      Thanks man 👏 Couldn’t agree more. Also, that’s why the Tapped Out is linked! Anyways, thanks for checking out the Channel. -Patrick

  • @CuriousBrain420
    @CuriousBrain420 2 роки тому

    Very good video and list, the first time I played it against my friend I was able to win on turn 3 !! Thank you for all the care you put into this video !

  • @1198denis
    @1198denis 5 років тому +1

    Dude, i'm building selvala and loved your video and decklist, thanks for the updated primer and good content, just subscribed and already wishing for more videos.

    • @LocalGameGroup
      @LocalGameGroup  5 років тому

      Rock on! I love Selvala 😍 So happy to be sharing that competitive love here, haha. Playlines/Mulligan Guide airs this coming week! As well as how to corral *The Stampede.* -Patrick

  • @DarwinG31
    @DarwinG31 5 років тому

    Very entertaining and informative deck tech. Subscribed.

  • @TheXPR3
    @TheXPR3 5 років тому

    I'd love to see you guys walk through an Edgar Markov deck

  • @xanozar
    @xanozar 5 років тому

    im pretty new to magic so i could be wrong. but when you play fyndhorn elves wouldn't it have summon sickness and be unable to tap?

    • @LocalGameGroup
      @LocalGameGroup  5 років тому

      You mind sending me a timestamp to the Card in question? Yes, all Creatures without Haste are effected by Summoning Sickness. If we’re discussing how to get Selvala out by Turn 2, Fyndhorn - or any other Mana Dork - needs to be Cast on Turn 1. 👌

    • @xanozar
      @xanozar 5 років тому

      @@LocalGameGroup It was at around 24:45 but I forgot about thousand year elixir! My bad! and great guide I've learned a lot and am thinking about making a deck with Selvala as my commander!

  • @Eric_DJ
    @Eric_DJ 4 роки тому

    Would love to see an updated deck list

    • @LocalGameGroup
      @LocalGameGroup  4 роки тому

      Check the link in the description: updated yesterday.

    • @Eric_DJ
      @Eric_DJ 4 роки тому

      @@LocalGameGroup
      Hi i have the "Old list" after hitting the link I get the same list

    • @LocalGameGroup
      @LocalGameGroup  4 роки тому +1

      @@Eric_DJ The one in the description was updated not but three days ago. That is the current list to follow.

    • @Eric_DJ
      @Eric_DJ 4 роки тому

      @@LocalGameGroup
      Ok thanks.. Im going to build this..

  • @DoubleBeast
    @DoubleBeast 5 років тому

    Minor nitpick, but having the logo over Patrick's face at the start looks... off. Difficult to process. It's hard to read the logo, and one of the card outlines in the logo appears over Patrick's face like a squiggly mustache. Perhaps add a white background within the logo. If you want to preserve the transparency of the logo, perhaps have the white background fade first, then the entire logo.
    That aside... this is phenomenal!Seriously, high marks in all categories.

    • @LocalGameGroup
      @LocalGameGroup  5 років тому +1

      I wasn’t 100% on that either... I wanted it to flash into frame, something like a flicker effect, but that didn’t agree with me either. I may do a similar intro as the outro... No worries, I’ll keep toying with it. Perhaps a preamble into the logo, sweltering music, that sorta deal: *boom* content. Thank you for the input there! -Patrick

    • @justinr4368
      @justinr4368 5 років тому

      Did someone say flicker? - Naru

  • @MTGMuddstah
    @MTGMuddstah 5 років тому +39

    Very cool!

    • @LocalGameGroup
      @LocalGameGroup  5 років тому +4

      *Thank you,* much appreciated 🙇‍♂️ Looking to add one-to-two episodes a week, so stay tuned for more to come! -Patrick

  • @cedhtv
    @cedhtv 5 років тому +29

    Really good video I think you will grow big. Nice to see more competitive content creators producing. Keep it up!

    • @LocalGameGroup
      @LocalGameGroup  5 років тому +2

      *Thank you!* Looking forward to producing much more content on The 99! 🤘 -Patrick

  • @itsTronBonne
    @itsTronBonne 5 років тому +18

    Love this format. So many deck techs out there that just read what the cards do, instead of talking about why they work together.
    Subbed!

  • @BanditDil210
    @BanditDil210 5 років тому +8

    Awesome. Just awesome. UA-cam needs more CEDH content creators like you, CEDHTV and spike feeders just to name a few. Very informative yet simple to understand videos! You earned an honest subscriber! Looking forward for more!

    • @LocalGameGroup
      @LocalGameGroup  5 років тому +2

      Heyyy, *thank you* for your Subscription! Looking forward to producing much more content on The 99! -Patrick

  • @Lambgg
    @Lambgg 5 років тому +9

    Dude this is incredible! You have brought Command Zone level of quality and presentation to cEDH!! Also I love the mat is where can I get one XD

    • @LocalGameGroup
      @LocalGameGroup  5 років тому +3

      I picked it up recently off the ‘Zon - Inked Playmat “Gaming Perfect” I think is what it’s called (hyper pretentious, love it, haha). -Patrick

  • @dunzhen
    @dunzhen 4 роки тому +1

    Selvala is awesome. Don't play her if you don't like taking long turns and making others wait if you're going the stormy route
    Of course you can play her more casual and just pump fatties into the deck

    • @LocalGameGroup
      @LocalGameGroup  4 роки тому

      Yeah, I finally feel like I have the science down, but it always takes a while to get the ball rolling into *Infinite-I-Win* territory.

  • @RabenkopfRec
    @RabenkopfRec Рік тому +1

    Great guide, fellow stranger! Thanks a lot!

  • @puffin-onehandedgamer1164
    @puffin-onehandedgamer1164 5 років тому +1

    If you don't mind powering down your deck for the sake of budget, what would be good alternatives for the following cards?
    1x Ancient Tomb
    1x Gemstone Caverns
    1x Memory Jar
    1x Misty Rainforest
    1x Phyrexian Dreadnought
    1x Scroll Rack
    1x Survival of the Fittest
    1x Sylvan Library
    1x Verdant Catacombs
    1x Wooded Foothills
    1x Gaea's Cradle
    1x Mana Crypt
    1x Mox Diamond
    Gaea's cradle has to be Growing rites of Itlemoc right? Phyrexian Dreadnought
    can be replaced by any huge artifact creature, so a "Ancient Stone Idol" or "Darksteel Colossus". and the fetch lands can be the cheaper kind, but what about the rest? I don't have 1600+ $ to spend on a deck, so I understand that I might not be as fast as this, I just really like this concept.

    • @LocalGameGroup
      @LocalGameGroup  5 років тому +1

      So, I’ll be talking budget/meta choices a little later this month, but...
      Ancient Tomb -> Shrine of the Forsaken Gods/Temple of the False God
      Memory Jar -> Slate of Ancestry (for Draw potential)
      Phyrexian Dreadnought -> Buff Spell/Low CMC, High Power Creature
      Scroll Rack -> Sensei’s Divining Top (Still $$$)
      Survival of the Fittest -> Fauna Shaman
      Gaea’s Cradle -> Nythkos, Shrine to Nyx
      Fetch Lands -> Basic Fetches/Hickory Woodlot or Havenwood Battleground
      Mana Crypt -> Sol Ring/Mana Vault
      Anything I did not list does not have a suitable replacement. cEDH, in general, is about efficiency of Mana: *doing more for less.* Sadly, the most efficient cards in the format are expensive. However, if you are trying to reduce the cost of my list, run over the cards I have just listed as replacement. -Patrick

    • @puffin-onehandedgamer1164
      @puffin-onehandedgamer1164 5 років тому

      @@LocalGameGroup yes, I understand that some cards can't really be replaced. thankfully I just play regular EDH, I just lkiked the list a lot thats all :)

  • @临高
    @临高 5 років тому +1

    wait at 25:00 how does he return that selvana back to hand and still tap her for 10? after she is returned and replayed isn't she back to 2 power?

    • @临高
      @临高 5 років тому

      never mind I rewatch that turn then knowing you played berserk and crossa to the little elf

  • @seandavidfusco
    @seandavidfusco 5 років тому +2

    Have yall looked into Marwyn builds ( I have a pretty decent cEDH build of her) Al-tho i am still tweaking and testing.

    • @LocalGameGroup
      @LocalGameGroup  5 років тому +1

      *She that nurtures?* Definitely love that tribal flavor... I was playing around with her in the 99 for Selvala (almost like another Titania, who’s not in anymore). Marwyn has a ton of potential. I’d love to see the list, Sean(-davidfusco)! In much the same way as Selvala, she can net infinite mana fairly easy. The circumstantial Card Draw isn’t *so* crucial (it’s game changing 50% of the time), but it really puts Selvala a cut above. Thing is, two generic and one green... Yeah, I’d love to brew a Marwyn next. -Patrick

    • @seandavidfusco
      @seandavidfusco 5 років тому +1

      @@LocalGameGroup tappedout.net/mtg-decks/17-01-19-elfball/?cb=1549343909 This is my current build (to be fair i just ordered my cradle and staff so i haven't played this exactly in my local pod so ya. once I get the list ironed out I plan to write a primer.

  • @powerstaplesde6757
    @powerstaplesde6757 5 років тому +2

    Awesome videos! I watched your episodes about Selvala and built it the same day (yesterday^^) and while testing against 3 friends in competitive EDH, I really won one of the games on turn 3!! :D Like it a lot! Keep it up, you guys rock through the roof! :D

    • @LocalGameGroup
      @LocalGameGroup  5 років тому +1

      Yeahhh 🥇🤘 Nice man! Happy to hear you’re enjoying the deck. It’ll be going through some subtle changes as more sets come out, so be sure to check back in with the primer from time to time. 🍻 Thanks for watching and trying the deck! -Patrick

  • @Shadowproxies
    @Shadowproxies 3 роки тому

    I know it's a while after this video came out but I'm confused.. why is his link to the deck different than what he is playing in the video? He mentions so many cards that aren't in the decklist. Such as phytoburst, vitalize, wayward swordtooth, memory jar, etc

  • @josemaniacthrasher
    @josemaniacthrasher Рік тому +1

    Very nice guide. You should do a update version

    • @LocalGameGroup
      @LocalGameGroup  Рік тому +1

      A lot of cards have released since this video, that's for sure.

  • @lonerwolf2010
    @lonerwolf2010 4 роки тому +2

    Amazing video for a beginner. Thank you 🙌🏼

    • @LocalGameGroup
      @LocalGameGroup  4 роки тому +1

      Glad to hear (read) it! Selvala is a tough one to manage at first - from understanding what to look for in those opening hands, to managing play-by-play during a combo turn - but once you piece it together she is devastating.

  • @临高
    @临高 5 років тому +2

    damn this (and two sequels) are probably the best (no 'one of' bs) cedh introduction video I've seen! explained enough win-con, no reading card redundancy, the voice is clear, no accent( no disrespect to those who has an accent, but a good video does require the voice to be clear enough). and have just enough information for the card choice.

    • @LocalGameGroup
      @LocalGameGroup  5 років тому

      Thank you! Hope the Primer helped. 🤘 -Patrick

  • @chriskintz2246
    @chriskintz2246 3 роки тому +1

    Got my first win last night using this list! I ended up going infinite with kogla + hyrax tower scout. Such a fun build.

  • @bastianrhone9390
    @bastianrhone9390 3 роки тому

    Currently building this we got so much selvala stuff recently can we get a update on this?

  • @OG_G4m3r
    @OG_G4m3r 5 років тому +1

    Let there be Phytoburst!

  • @luxaa319
    @luxaa319 4 роки тому

    Even more proof that temur sabertooth is the best card in magic. Prove me wrong.

  • @notyouraveragegamer4559
    @notyouraveragegamer4559 5 років тому +1

    Yay! Another cEDH channel! There really aren't enough of these.

  • @mdearing24
    @mdearing24 3 роки тому

    Bro this is so complicated why not just drop an Umbral Mantle on Selvala and tap out into Walking Ballista for ggs?

    • @LocalGameGroup
      @LocalGameGroup  3 роки тому +1

      Cause Walking Ballista adds nothing to this deck and is dead outside of being an outlet. There are cards in deck that allow us to go for a win. Though their play lines may be complicated, it’s worth knowing.

  • @Winterhe4rt
    @Winterhe4rt 4 роки тому

    "Demonstrate your power". Well the mightiest of all of those demonstrations imo is in fact just playing white bordered Forests

    • @LocalGameGroup
      @LocalGameGroup  4 роки тому

      I’m actually on some Foil Terry Springers currently.

  • @EM-pn5kq
    @EM-pn5kq 5 років тому +1

    Very enjoyable deck tech.
    It's nice seeing an IRL tech, getting to see your take (promos and basics and such) on it.
    And you come off very comfortable and fun.

    • @LocalGameGroup
      @LocalGameGroup  5 років тому

      Hey! Thank you. Hope the deck tech helped. 🤘 -Patrick

  • @jdcaporali
    @jdcaporali 5 років тому +1

    Wow! Loved the video and the Journey t-shirt! Congrats on your first episode and all the best with your channel! You've got a new sub!!! :)

    • @LocalGameGroup
      @LocalGameGroup  5 років тому +1

      I think I got that shirt when I was 17... Had to be, I was in high school when I saw them live. Haha, when you pay $40 for a t-shirt, you wear it for life 🤘 -Patrick

  • @MTG_Ronin
    @MTG_Ronin 4 роки тому +1

    Love this. Subscribed!!!!!!!

  • @TheFoxlover93
    @TheFoxlover93 4 роки тому

    So does this still work on T3 even if you dont top deck a land, or is it just harder to perform without that third land drop?

    • @LocalGameGroup
      @LocalGameGroup  4 роки тому

      Yeah, totally does. If you have a Dork and two Lands, you can still easily go off with a 1-to-2 cmc big Creature or Buff, an Untap effect or Draw Spell, there are a multitude of combinations to help you out in that scenario so you do hit your Land. Also, on that note, if you can *avoid* playing a Land on Combo Turn, that’s even better. As we want to utilize all are Untap effects to include Wirewood Lodge.

  • @shilohartisan
    @shilohartisan 5 років тому

    You mention [[Mobilization]] when you show [[Vitalize]]. But you mean [[Mobilize]]. [[Mobilization]] is a white enchantment that gives soldiers vigilance.

    • @LocalGameGroup
      @LocalGameGroup  5 років тому

      Time signature? I’m sure you’re right... So, got me! -Patrick

    • @shilohartisan
      @shilohartisan 5 років тому

      15:36, 15:46, 15:48

  • @stephenw2722
    @stephenw2722 5 років тому +1

    My new channel that bring ton of knowledge abt cEDH, keep work in! Bless up

  • @artemoila1
    @artemoila1 5 років тому

    Berserk can only be cast before the combat damage step. Therefore you can't use it as a ritual in the main phase. Cool video otherwise!

    • @LocalGameGroup
      @LocalGameGroup  5 років тому +1

      You may Cast *Berserk* any time during your turn so long as it is before the *Combat Damage* step. That is the beauty of it in all Selvala primers. -Patrick

    • @artemoila1
      @artemoila1 5 років тому +1

      @@LocalGameGroupThanks for the response, this is actually not very clear on the card.

  • @tonyontilt3522
    @tonyontilt3522 4 роки тому

    I prefer benefactors drought over the rest of the untap spells because it gives you another way to draw your whole deck if you don't have a win con in hand.

    • @LocalGameGroup
      @LocalGameGroup  4 роки тому

      (It's in, current list on Moxfield)

    • @tonyontilt3522
      @tonyontilt3522 4 роки тому

      @@LocalGameGroup only brought it up because in the video you said you didn't like the extra mana.

  • @MTG_Ronin
    @MTG_Ronin 4 роки тому

    It’s not amazing but, have you thought about crashing drawbridge as another way to give everything haste?

    • @LocalGameGroup
      @LocalGameGroup  4 роки тому +1

      So.. Yeah, I have. It's nice because it is Tutorable, but it unfortunately doesn't make the cut. The Deck is geared towards speed and having to wait a Turn to enable Haste is just too slow, haha. As crazy as that sounds.

    • @MTG_Ronin
      @MTG_Ronin 4 роки тому

      The 99 you’re right. I just realized it’s a creature (embarrassing)! I got just bought crossroads too. I’m working around not having Curio or Staff of D. I’m trying to make the deck durdle less by using more tutors (B Pod, etc). Found Malachite Talisman and I think I can use it to make enough mana for a win, even though it’s not infinite.

  • @kris1822
    @kris1822 2 роки тому

    how did u tap the llanowar without haste?

  • @bubabiwin
    @bubabiwin 5 років тому +1

    Mono Green Master race! What bout doing yisan for next video

    • @LocalGameGroup
      @LocalGameGroup  5 років тому

      Ahhh, Master Yisan... I’ve been asked about him. Would definitely love to develop a list for that boy 😈 -Patrick

  • @09Dragonite
    @09Dragonite 4 роки тому

    I was initially very confused about your usage of Wirewood Symbiote, but honestly it is quite interesting to see work.

  • @vitalvital2558
    @vitalvital2558 5 років тому +2

    Nice Primer !

    • @LocalGameGroup
      @LocalGameGroup  5 років тому

      *Thank you!* I thought so too 🥴 Selvala is easily one of my favorite decks. -Patrick

  • @SNIP3SHOT518
    @SNIP3SHOT518 5 років тому +1

    Love it can’t wait to see the next part

    • @LocalGameGroup
      @LocalGameGroup  5 років тому

      Yeah, filming this Sunday! Hoping to bump episodes to one-to-two a week. 🤘 Stay tunes for Part Two come Wednesday. -Patrick

  • @rhozpogi
    @rhozpogi 5 років тому

    can i suggest that u animate the cards your talking about so u dont have to read it but we can.

    • @LocalGameGroup
      @LocalGameGroup  5 років тому

      I hear you... Super impose cards on the screen? I and the folks I’ll be filming will be operating under the assumption that the cards (once the name is read) is understood: in both ability & function. I intend to place cards on screen for the gameplay footage... However, with these instructional videos, the descriptions will likely be read/implied/not spoken of. Depends on whether the card is common or fringe. 👌 -Patrick

    • @rhozpogi
      @rhozpogi 5 років тому

      @@LocalGameGroup i understand i play cedh myself, i play all bant colors, yisan, arcum, GAA4, derevi, sram, but even that some cards are exclusive to some deck specially with selvala. but hey just a suggestion. good video btw

  • @Addrum
    @Addrum 5 років тому

    Is so cool we had so many new cEDH channels in the past few months.
    I have to comment this tho, it was hard to find you through UA-cam search engine. There is already another channel called The99 (without the space) with 3000 subs so it pops up first and many other videos of different content (music, animation, videogames, etc).

    • @LocalGameGroup
      @LocalGameGroup  5 років тому +1

      Thank you for the heads up... I was conscious the name was taken for an animation group(?). Haven’t viewed their content, but there may be some cross-pollination there (only natural). Hopefully not for long 🤞 Also, “CMDR Ninety Nine” is another similar Channel name. However, I couldn’t think of a name more fitting for our particular brand of content. Moving forward, look for the badge bottom left and similar thumb style/design. 🤘 -Patrick

  • @sadsadist
    @sadsadist 5 років тому +1

    Wow! Great video!

  • @baileydoty6874
    @baileydoty6874 3 роки тому

    wouldnt sword of the paruns be better than staff

    • @LocalGameGroup
      @LocalGameGroup  3 роки тому

      Staff > Paruns, it does far more for the player: e.g. Draws the deck

  • @slaytallicadeththrax4547
    @slaytallicadeththrax4547 5 років тому +1

    I need that playmat!!!

  • @shazarn1
    @shazarn1 5 років тому

    Good quality. Subbed. But Id suggest dialling it down a little on the "top deck" lands. It's coming across a little cringe here

    • @LocalGameGroup
      @LocalGameGroup  5 років тому

      Hahaha, I’m just fooling around. I hear ya though. A pal of mine was telling me just that. 👌 Thanks for the input. -Patrick

  • @jaku_fwog
    @jaku_fwog 5 років тому

    I'd like to see a Gitrog deck-tech!
    Been playing him for some time now, and looking for a more in-depth video on a deck-teck of the deck! :)

    • @LocalGameGroup
      @LocalGameGroup  5 років тому +1

      I have been wanting to build Gitrog... As a matter of fact, I nearly did! Decided to pursue some mono-colored options first. However, I am and forever will be a *Golgari Boi,* so expect a deck tech for *Gitrog* here on The 99. No promises as to when, but it’ll likely be my own brew. -Patrick

  • @ssnow5516
    @ssnow5516 5 років тому

    Solid first episode. whens the first gameplay?

    • @LocalGameGroup
      @LocalGameGroup  5 років тому +1

      It’s tough getting everyone together, however... We film the 19th. Gameplay at the end of the month 👌 -Patrick

  • @HanannieOSRS
    @HanannieOSRS 5 років тому +1

    Best of the Best!!!

  • @freebiegrabber
    @freebiegrabber 4 роки тому

    At 21:26 -- you can't tap your Fyndhorn Elves because it has summoning sickness.

    • @LocalGameGroup
      @LocalGameGroup  4 роки тому

      There is a *Concordant Crossroads* in play.

  • @MageSkeleton
    @MageSkeleton 4 роки тому

    i disagree with your presentation. i want to know ALL the different cards that function the same output not just the "optimal" or "perfect hand" scenario. Yes you can turn 3 with sevala, but it would help if your establish all the different cards.
    Also, 2020 says hi, thereos beyond death gave us a new creature that ETB untap target creature. And we also now have a 6 CMC Ape creature that is Temur Sablretooth but for "human" creatures and Amorphous Axe from Modern Horizons says hi.

    • @LocalGameGroup
      @LocalGameGroup  4 роки тому

      Go and follow the link in the description via Moxfield to the current build. Do note that this video was produced over a year ago, so cards will change and continue to as more sets release. Allosaurus Rider says "Hi." Also, don't use Amorphous Axe.

  • @GodwynDi
    @GodwynDi 5 років тому

    Land grant is neat, but would have the same odds for casting Selvala if it was a basic forest. Turn one shuffle is likely irrelevant, and 1 card deck thinning does not appreciably matter.

    • @LocalGameGroup
      @LocalGameGroup  5 років тому +1

      (Replied to this very comment)... *Land Grant* is two cards for one, being able to effectively thin out your draws and produce better ones is always relevant. It can provide a Forest *or* a Dryad Arbor in a pinch as well as secure a turn two Selvala. An ability like that, for zero mana, is far more valuable than throwing in another Basic. -Patrick

  • @xcver
    @xcver 5 років тому

    I feel as if the argument for land grant is a bit flawed....the main argument is that it can be used to fetch a land to play selvala on time. However a land in its stead would provide the exact same thing. The only benefits it has are deck slimming (which is largely irrelevant) and shuffling which is relevant since you play Scroll Rack.

    • @LocalGameGroup
      @LocalGameGroup  5 років тому

      *Land Grant* is two cards for one, being able to effectively thin out your draws and produce better ones is always relevant. It can provide a Basic Forest or a Dryad Arbor in a pinch as well as secure a turn two Selvala. An ability like that, for zero mana, is far more valuable than throwing in another Basic. -Patrick

    • @EM-pn5kq
      @EM-pn5kq 5 років тому

      @@LocalGameGroup maybe we're missing something, how is it two cards for one?

  • @HateParty
    @HateParty 5 років тому

    Someone posted this in the Selvala cEDH discord. Came right here as soon as I saw it posted. Easy subscribe from me as she is my one and only cEDH deck. Ready to see your future content!

  • @iliketrainsbitch
    @iliketrainsbitch 5 років тому +1

    Love the videos and style! kept up the quality content :)