A Real-Life Example of Indigenous Maths
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- In yesterday’s video, I perhaps took the mickey out of Indigenous maths, or more specifically, woke university professors trying to force it upon their students, while also trying to make students feel guilty about Australia’s colonial past by stating that modern-day mathematics is primarily European and British-based, which was forced upon Indigenous peoples. But as some of you pointed out, mathematics has its roots in Mesopotamia (present-day Iraq) - the Babylonians and so on - followed closely by Ancient Egypt, so essentially, we’ve all learnt mathematics from other lands and peoples across time. Anyway, in this video, in the interest of fairness, I’d like to present a real-life example of Indigenous maths.
In modern-day schooling, students typically learn multiplication through the use of times tables, right? No surprises there. So for example, 2 × 4 = 8, you can just think of it as two groups of four and then add them together using your fingers if your wanted to. But Dr Chris Matthews of the Aboriginal Torres Strait Islander Maths Alliance, and also an Associate Dean at University Technology of Sydney, describes how Aboriginal children turned the equation 2 × 4 = 8 into a dance about flying brolgas. A group of two children, acting as brolgas, flew together, and then linked up with another group of two, and then two more groups of two to become a collection of eight in total.
Okay, so I’m not trying to take away from the learning potential of this activity. Perhaps it sounds like a lot of fun, at least for some children, but is it practical? There are dozens of number facts here, not to mention addition, subtraction and division. Are we going to make up an Indigenous dance for each one? I think as a one-off sort of thing, it’s probably okay and a bit of fun, but in the long run, I think students just need to be encouraged to put their heads down and do some good old-fashioned study and revision.
As I mentioned previously, Indigenous children are falling behind when it comes to numeracy, and I don’t think it’s from a lack of Indigenous-specific mathematics. It’s certainly not from a lack of capability, or a lack of opportunity - there’s plenty of that in Australia. It’s from a lack of attendance. It’s easy to say that Indigenous children don’t attend school because they don’t find school fun, but surely non-Indigenous children also don’t find school very fun. I think lack of attendance is not from a lack of interest in school, it’s from a lack of parental guidance. My children don’t particularly like school, but I take them every day. I walk with them and we chat in the mornings, and they feel calm going to school in the morning. Sometimes I even do some revision with them.
Now I’m not necessarily saying that school is the best way to educate a child, but that’s what we’re kind of stuck with in the present day. I’m not taking away from homeschooling, or whatever, but somehow I don’t think homeschooling is the answer for most Indigenous families. If we want to help Indigenous children get better at maths, I think we need to find a way to get them to go to school. If we’re not prepared to that, then expect worse and worse educational outcomes.
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I'm not taking mathematics lessons from a group of people who couldn't figure out the physics of the wheel.
To be fair, Indigenous Australian soy-cieties would not have had much or any use for the wheel. And wheels that are of any easy use even on *somewhat* bumpy or muddy terrain was genuinely challenging until relatively recently.
Even agriculturalised and urbanised soy-cieties in Africa and the Americas did not adopt the wheel, and for legitimate reasons, as explained in the video ' How Economics Explained Gets African History Wrong'. To hear about the minimal use of wheels for transport in Africa and theur total absence the Americas, skip to 12:25 .
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@@fishofgold6553 there's a theory called called technological evolution. It's a theory that negates that whole video and ideology. One of those smarter, more adaptable and resourceful survive theories. These cultures like many before them failed in this aspect which is how we got to this point. They failed to go grow with society because they were and still are stick in the past. You know what you should learn from the past, not making the same mistake. So no learning Nye on anything from a culture who didn't get past basic science or evolve past throwing stick and stones by hand when the rest of society is using gun powder. Literally bringing stone knifes and sharpened sticks to a gun fight. And for a country rich in iron ores, you think they might of advanced past the stone age. They should not teach anything but how to survive on native plants. Because in reality that's all they did. Survive.
The white superemist identity is based upon a wheel... Your whole culture is about a wheel... You're desperately trying to cling to white suppremist ideology based upon the wheel... FFS you're definitely outing yourself as a racist piece of shit
So many lies, distortions and half truths in the education sector.
An international study a couple of decades ago isolated the single biggest factor contributing to positive educational outcomes and told us what we already knew.
It is not socioeconomic status, not educational methods, not classroom size, not cultural expression, not school hours or homework volume, not innate ability, not mental health, not technology, not even the skill of the teacher - none of these things.
The single biggest factor contributing to positive educational outcomes is the extent to which education is valued by parents in the home environment.
But, but 'my victim status'😅
This is all true, other than you state socio economi is not the single most determining factor. Unfortunately, your concluding statement, regarding parents attitudes, directly relates to socio economic.
There really is no debate that's the #1 defining factor the world over, that is not to say the answer therefore is money. No, it's a myriad of issues, including as you say parental influence on education.
Cheers!
@@nostro1001 I am going to push back on your comment.
If we consider the three variables: family values, socioeconomic wellbeing, and educational outcomes, there are obviously correlations between the three.
Classically (at least in the Western world over the past century) improving educational outcomes has been addressed by governments through economic means. That is, funding for schools, close the gaps, affirmative action and so on. There is no clear data indicating this has worked.
I would suggest that familial values are causative of the other two and that by addressing this we will improve both socioeconomic and educational goals.
Never a truer statement.
@@j_sum1 That's fine... Happy to discuss. 😊
As per my above comments I stated that parental values are directly related to socio economic. Further, I said that the mere concept of socio economic comprises many factors.
I completely agree that throwing money at schools for example to give certain groups an advantage to close the gap, has not worked and will never work on a broad scale as education is not valued. It's ridiculously tough just to get many of such children to attend school on a regular basis let alone a daily basis.
However, I still say that this all has a direct relationship to low socio economic communities.
I have a friend who works for SA Dept Of Education in an area with higher than average Aboriginal population. I asked how does that work and they said the biggest problem is that they simply don't show up, and there is no penalty for not showing up. If you contact the parents they yell and swear at you to mind your own business. And if they do show, up, they make a large percentage of the problems which consumes all the teacher's and admin's time.
But noticing patterns is racist...
There’s actually a payment for aboriginal parents to send their kids to school. They still don’t do it!
and meals at the school@@HGCUPCAKES
do not tell the truth!
remember hearing "your only picking on me because I'm black" , "No Robert I gave the homework to the entire class"
These patterns were deliberately inserted into schools in the 1990s it’s called propaganda. They use to walk around with the other occult kids forming caste groups around what was available at the school to use all of its resources. Myself in high school received less then 7 minutes of teacher student time because the teachers were also the problem.
I’m a pilot who works for a charter company in NT. One of our contracts is to pick up indigenous kids from their communities and fly them to the bigger towns where they attend school. I’ve never had an issue picking them up from school to take them home for the holidays but taking them back to school, I can’t recall the number of times I have flown out to community and nobody comes to get the flight. These flights are paid for by taxpayers and are usually about $20k each. The kids have ample opportunity to go to school but they don’t take it.
I think about how much money is wasted on these chartered flights and how that money could have gone to pay for education for someone who would appreciate it.
Geeze that pisses me off!! Need to make that known!!
It happens all the time. I take doctors out to communities, wait there all day for them to do their work only to find out that the doctor spent the whole day with only a few visits because they all sleep all day. That’s another $20k charter plus the cost of the doctors time hardly utilised. A complete waste of taxpayers funds trying to “close the gap”. Of course there is a gap! The health services are not utilised, all at the expense of taxpayers who have to work to pay for that service to be available. These things happen every single day, all across the country. The waste is real.
@@MalevolentProphecies Please go to someone like A Current Affair or SKY to get your story told. This is just disgusting and such a waste of money and yet the activists still howl about the neglect of white society to the aboriginal communities. People have to know what goes on. They are bleeding us dry and then what!
I think the bigger issue is the charter company that's ripping off Australian tax payers by charging twenty grand for something that probably only costs one thousand.
Mate, the entire economy of the NT revolves around indigenous services and mining. And all government services are procured through an agent who receives quotes from multiple providers and then chooses the cheapest option, so don’t talk like you know about how much aviation services cost.
Indigenous maths equation.
1 stolen car + 1 assault with a weapon + 12 break and enters = 0 consequences.
Obviously never dealt with the legal system.
@@rosshitchen-ij6enI have and his right mate
@@steventosi8067 The 0 consequences part is nonsense.25% of the prison system is Indigenous.
Get treated like an endangered species. Yeah only after getting caught for repeat offences. I've been to court MANY times and have seen how lightly they are sentenced compared to others. I also have indig family SO change my mind brus.🍻❤️🦘💨
@@steventosi8067 I have actually been through the system in 1 point in my life.
I served over 4 years for a non violent offence.
I had my sentance quashed at appeal after sitting around for 4years and 5 months.
The magistrate court is where most petty crims get a hundred warnings before they are incarcerated.
The District court is where you go if you have been charged with serious indicatable offences.
When your sentenced in the District court the judge has all the maximum periods for each offense.Depending on your actual role in the offence this is how you are sentenced.
Low role,below mid,mid,High.
Is someone was being sentenced on 50 kilos of class a drugs. A low role would recieve 3 years and a high role would recieve 20 years.
Supreme court deals with mainly murder cases.
When it comes to sentencing there are objective factors and subjective factors.
If a person can proove they had a bad up bringing without any guidance from parents the judge could apply the Bugmy and Ferrnando priciples.
This gives the person an extra 10% discount at times on top of say 25% discount for early plea.
I gave a netball girl, about 8yo, $50 note to buy $5 of raffle tickets, and watched for 2 minutes as she tried to work out my change. There are some things in life you have to learn to function ... basic math, reading a clock, writing and reading to a functional level. Maybe schools need truant officers with penalties imposed on parents who refuse to educate their children ... it worked in the past. 😊🇦🇺
My wife is Vietnamese, In Vietnam, she can count out 3 transactions simultaneously before I've pulled the notes out of my wallet. This paying by cards and phone is really dumbing us down.
I blame the school curriculum and teachers.
@peeleypea
Yes that’s the plan and it’s working perfectly. I’ve lived a full life in the real world and fear for the future of our young. Trouble is they are sleepwalking into serfdom
Not enough brolgas around for her to do the calculations.😂😂😂 maybe it’s about time truant officers were reintroduced.
Unless you work at my school. The principal, using her years of mainstream education, has decided that mainstream education is a waste and that children should not be educated at all unless they choose to be. She sincerely believes they have the right to do as they wish when they wish. The only positive is, you should see how awfully her own kids treat her! No respect whatsoever. She screams and cries and throws actual tantrums to get them to do what she wants (and they still do not, EVER!) the rest of us just have to say "go do it" and they do! Hilarious!
Example of indigenous maths - If Billy buys 2 beers for $10, and a carton of cigarettes for $20, how much money will Billy need?
Answer - The government will pay for it.
It's Neville not Billy
No. YOU, will pay for it.
Wow. Y'all really don't like them. I didn't know Australians were like this but the comments tell a lot.
@ogeo.8966 We believe everyone should be treated equally. Taxpayers are sick of millions being spent on one particular group who instead of being grateful, only ever demand more.
@@chichlidcrazy yeah but it's the government that's causing the problem. Perhaps it's their intention to sow discord but they're painting their actions as benevolent. Maybe they want you guys to feel maltreated in a way. I don't like preferential treatment but people shouldn't be blamed for being 'treated better'. It's not their fault after all
zero white guilt. maximum mathematics!
Students are having their learning time wasted by having to learn about indigenous affairs.
Do you ever look at anything else on UA-cam?
Like something wholesome, or funny, or heartwarming?
Or are you 100% committed to hate?
They've removed the explorers and flora and fauna from the curriculum. Also, perhaps learning about which levels of government provide which services... no conspiracy there, tho...
Maybe because there are people like David Livingstone and his wife that went to unfamiliar places out of curiosity. The others were on a mission to make money. That's not exploration. It's commerce/business. I'm not saying it's a bad thing but I wouldn't call such a person an explorer.
@@kermitthehermit9588 Thats what i was wondering as well.
This is like a mothers meeting hate group.
@@karlm9584 Rubbish
The dances should get interesting when they start doing Calculus.
They'll perhaps need to add in goannas for multivariate?
The sort of complicated maths that came from Europe or the middle east, is brilliant for things like carpentry or construction in general. When applied in such a way, the purpose of maths, suddenly has meaning. A culture that is paid to do nothing, will in such circumstances, never see the reason for European maths.
Spot on
Absolutely correct. I’ve only just realised that differential equations and Bayesian statistics correlate to three dimensional representations and it suddenly all makes sense. Even the humble plumber knows that Poiseuille’s law describes laminar flow in tubes. Maths is everywhere.
So why should people's use something they don't need? Why is it bad that they didn't make up a complicated framework that they didn't need?
Edit: *people
@@ogeo.8966 The fact they were conquered should answer that.
The idea that society doesn't need to develop is Luddite thinking. You see it even today with idiots refusing nuclear development yet shitting their pants whenever another nation does it.
It is a weak pathetic mindset and one this country is falling ever deeper into.
I worked for 7 years in a regional prison in Western Australia. According to our education department within the prison, I quote, "80 percent of the local prisoners had the educational level of 12 year olds. Come election time I was tasked to help 200 of them vote. It was a nightmare.
Next time treat it as creative arts and let them scrawl their best representation of a Donkey.
Never went to high school and had a very successful life
They will vote for whoever gives them the most.
why are prisoners allowed to vote?
@@TheZodiacz good comment!
I was most impressed to see that Australian Aborigines landed on the moon 20,000 years ago.
Aboriginal mathematics is like fitting a square peg into a round hole.
....a chiral signal into a tin can string phone
Really.What have you acheived in your life for example.
@@rosshitchen-ij6en is that supposed to be a burn?
@@Demonico-j7x No a serious question.
Your putting yourself on a pedestal and inferring were all morons.
@@Demonico-j7x No its a serious question.
Do you believe your more intelligent than all of us with your half smart post.
What have you acheived in your life ?
Ten years ago I asked a friends child what they learned in school and they said "thousands of years ago the aborigional people were at one with nature until the white man came and stole their babies" later I asked her about her nine times tables and she told me how her teacher taught her how to do it with her fingers, when I asked her "what is eleven times nine" she said "I don't know I don't have eleven fingers" most people I tell this to think that this is perfectly fine...
What I want to know about is the "Australian Curriculum" because so far it seems like a rehash of the "Safe Schools Project" except now it's compulsory even for homeschooling. The things I'm reading about it are so egregious that my wife and family think it can't possibly be true and that the videos I send them are just deepfakes made up by people in basements, as soon as they see someone in a suit at parlaiment house speaking, they start shouting about how they "don't care about politics" they treat it like it's the most prolific boring reality TV show ever recorded.
People who refuse to take part in politics will find themselves at the mercy of people who do take part in politics.
@@mickeyjmoons Not really. Your vote is statistically irrelevant. If you want to make a difference, you need to run for parliament or campaign for a candidate. End of the day, that doesn't really matter either as the individual politicians have very little swing. There are people pulling the strings in the background setting the agenda for the turkeys in Parliament, and the rest of us either get to watch the shit show unfold or ignore it and get on with life.
I feel your pain. I heard a radio presenter talking about classroom discipline and mentioned that all the 'programs' seem to fail. "What can be done?" he asked. Almost everyone calling in suggested some form of corporal punishment be used when other methods fail. "Well, that will never come back." was his response. In other words, we're all just supposed to surrender hope for any change.
@@BowlCrossy if you convince yourself that your vote is irrelevant, you're part of the problem.
Nothing is "compulsory" for home education.
When your brain is mired in, and longs for a return to the stone age, there is little hope of progress.
The brolga analogy (sort of) fits with what I learnt at uni in the 90s, ie we have a base 10 system and the Aboriginals have a base 2. One, two, many.
The reality is that if Aboriginal people want to access higher education etc, a base 2 system can’t work in maths, physics, chemistry, medicine etc.
If they want to retain their Aboriginal system, don’t complain at low participation rates in higher education. Even social sciences rely on maths eg statistics.
" the Aboriginals have a base 2. One, two, many."
That is not Base 2. Base 2 would be zero, one, ten, eleven, twenty, twenty one... etc. You can still do all maths with any base numbering system (Base 2, Base 8, Base 10, Base 16 etc). One, Two, Many is a counting system with only 3 numbers. You cannot do any serious maths with only three numbers.
"a base 2 system can’t work in maths, physics, chemistry, medicine etc."
Of course you can. It is exactly how Computers perform all the maths in those fields.
My understanding is that the Aboriginals had no number system. They simply had a concept of one or many. This is why one crow is a Wagga but more than one crow (could be 2, could be 20) is a Wagga Wagga (place of many crows) (yes that's where the town's name came from despite the ABC). So if you see a place with a double name it means there were many of whatever the original word meant in that area. like GinGin in Queensland means "place of many streams".
Most Aboriginal people alive today don't retain the original "culture", unless they live in remote communities. Therefore is it totally acceptable to insist regular "whitefulla" numeracy is taught - most Asians have no problem with it?
A friend told me that their kids aren't learning times tables at school anymore because that's "rote learning and rote learning is bad" according to the 20 something teacher😂
I can assure you most times tables are still rote learnt - there is no other way to remember and consolidate. The good thing is that many will use UA-cam and the children love singing along.
To be fair, it's not necessary to learn them. It just makes things faster. Also, memorising times tables without knowing the basics of multiplication is not a good thing. From understanding the why, you can get the what - under any circumstance or complexity
@@ogeo.8966times tables are basic facts. I can assure you it’s easier to teach why if they already know what… research in cognitive load has proven this…
I rote learnt times table's in primary school over 60 years ago and it sticks. Even now when I have to multiply, the numbers come back easily.
As a proud Gotamongrelon man from Mt Greencan I approve of this video.
How many wine casks can you buy with a Centrelink cheque ?........Teacher replies : " My my that's a BIG question for a ten year old ! "
And they could answer it to the cent. 😊😊
Answer: Infinity. They just grab it and walk out.
As a Westerner, I have always relied on the Dance of The Little Swans (from the ballet of Swan Lake) in order to understand the concept of ''4''. I also use the Pas De Deux from Romeo and Juliet to understand ''2''.
And, to understand "6", you just make Little Swans and Pas De Deux dance together
Just made similar comment in the other video about modern maths being developed from a mix of cultures including Arabic which is where modern numbers come from (Europeans used Roman Numerals which are inefficient before adopting the Arabic number system) and algebra
There is some debate about that. There are examples of Indian/Hindu cultures using a numbering system that is very similar and may be older.
The symbols that we use today look nothing like Arabic numerals then or now.
It's an old wives tale.
Going to be sitting in the exam room for weeks drawing dancing brolgas for the three unit maths exams.
😂 it’s getting ridiculous
Sure is proggs 😉
Demoralize and dumb down the masses so move over for artificial intelligence and robots. WEF sociopaths want estate living and the masses jumping in the river.
Getting?
It is ridiculous
The whole world is falling apart, every damn direction…
Sounds a little like Steiner's method. But the problem with all of that is efficiency. If I had to perform a brolga dance every time I needed to determine 2x4, that could take a while. Similar with Steiner's method to sing little song about the times tables each time. It's fun, perhaps effective, but doesn't necessarily help with efficiency.
The Chinese have the longest continuous cultures and probably been around longer than Australian Aboriginals and we all know that Chinese kid who's a mathematical wizard and even just the average person who grew up in the western world is better at maths than most! We've all said it at some stage "that bloody Chinese kid" referring to their natural math and science abilities
""that bloody Chinese kid" referring to their natural math and science abilities"
It's not natural, it's almost all attitude. Many Asian cultures have a hard work ethic, and the ones that get out appreciate the opportunity given to them so make the most of it.
This is the opposite of Aboriginal culture which is mostly about sitting around demanding free stuff. The only way this will ever change is of the attitude/culture changes.
@@gooble69 I've met Chinese people who know their ancestry 70+ generations and they are smart ones & as in most cases the village idiots are the village idiots for generations hence they don't migrate..that's why we end up with the smart Asians in the western world! including tourism
A lot of indigenous people arrived in Australia at the same time as the dingo, about 3,500 years ago, from India. The first Chinese dynasty, the Xia, began nearly 4100 years ago....
That's not really true. Nearly all Chinese were illiterate until 150 years ago. They only started universal education after the Europeans started doing it. Before 150 years ago only the male children of rich elites, The 1%,, or the ruling class. went to any kind of school in China, and it was only for the purpose of running the government.
The other thing is, many immigrants to the west from Asia, particularly China are from rich privileged families. Most chinese foreign students in the west are from the rich or ruling class, many are children of government officials, Its true though that Asians generally value education a lot more than some other cultures but this is a recent thing.
By the way, China wasnt always a monolith. China is made up of dozens of ethnic groups who spoke different languages, and had different cultures but the value put on education is very recent.
@@tubester4567 "China wasnt always a monolith. China is made up of dozens of ethnic groups who spoke different languages"
And let's not get into how that all changed. There's no White people to blame in that story so it's not popular...
Yes. This is 'Straya. We say 'Maths', not just because we are Aussies, but because the word in full is "Mathematics". Therefore, the abbreviation is 'Maths'. Flamin' Septics!
😂😂😂🇦🇺👍
We Poms also say 'maths'. Don't be too hard on the Yanks. They probably forgot to add the 's' just as they forgot to add a 'u' to colour, favour, and neighbour.
Shouldnt it be Matho/Matha/Mathi?
@@Jabberstaxjust remember you lost that war, you don’t get to tell Americans what to do anymore.
@@damiencerutti6269 Look up 1812, when the Seppos invaded Canada, got their asses chased back to Washington, where the Brits then burned the White House down
They then had the good sense to leave the country to its own devices.
They are trying to do the same thing in the US, calling maths racist , that's where ball and co. Got the idea from , "okay kids , two brolgas and two brolgas makes four brolgas" 😂
Get rid of the Racist flags at schools, only one flag, one anthem and welcoming to the first settlers who developed this great land I’m proud to have served. 🇦🇺
You nailed it with attendance. The concept of "indigenous maths" is a bit silly. As the meme goes "MATH IS MATH". Mathematics has a long history and while yes, Europeans made major contributions, a lot of those contributions are to more advanced mathematic disciplines that most high schoolers don't touch anyway - for example higher order calculus, graph theory, etc. Suggesting that mathematics is a European idea forced on indigenous peoples is a racist statement in itself and assumes European supremacy. However unlike these far left people who think we need to talk up indigenous contributions to mathematics, I don't think it's degrading to suggest that Australian aboriginals did not have an in depth mathematics system or knowledge or one that significantly adds to the global collective. It is fine and normal for cultures to be strong in some areas and weak in others. Playing silly buggers with brolga dances is a modern invention and I'd say the indigenous of the past were much more focused on survival and land knowledge than they were with esoteric mathematical concepts. And that is fine and a strength for their people - one Europeans were keen to learn at settlement.
I mistakenly thought this video was about Indigenous Meth.
1+1 = 40 Billion.
MMMMMM! A succulent sound.
So if I get paid hourly and do not turn up to work and not get paid, that's the fault of the company?
Come on, people need to take accountability of their attitudes and their decisions
"....It's not from a lack of capability....." - actually, it is!
Please cite a source beyond your apparent encounters with the poorly educated. Or is it that they are of lesser worth and intellectual capacity of other Australians because they have (in your expert opinion) too much melanin in the pigmentation of their skin.
We are failing Aboriginal Australians, by infantilising them, and persisting with low expectations.
Sadly, it’s true that there is a school attendance problem.
An Aboriginal man I spoke to some years ago proposed a solution, or at least something that would help.
He suggested (after saying, I might add, that they shouldn’t be living like they did 250 years ago, that schools should be community hubs, for social services, medical care, etc.
He reasoned that the parents needed to be made to go to the school grounds, and were more likely to take their children to school, if this were a behaviour that could be reinforced.
Shame on academics who are peddling the nonsense you discussed in your video.
At my new teacher orientation here in Perth years ago even the aboriginal presenter was laughing how in earlier times the aboriginal kids weren't allowed to attend school whereas now the problem is trying to get them there.
My son is autistic (mildly) and getting him to do any schoolwork is hard going. We, his parents, are not completely stupid having slogged through high school and some tertiary courses after, but theres no way we could home school our kids anywhere near as well as a professional teacher. We don’t have the knowledge or resources.
never been diagnosed but I think your son and I would see the world about the same best bet for me was to find a passion and emerse myself in it and saying that I am almost 50 and very successful we all see the world differently we just need to see our differences as a super power
@@KingatowCrew thanks mate. His passion is video games, he will play them for hours.
Try getting his attention and he gets angry and starts yelling, he almost immediately regrets it but anger is his first emotion, and he hits himself. Remind him to put his shoes away, or ask him to calm down and he immediately calls himself stupid and hits himself in the head! So frustrating!
He wants to be a youtuber, well why not, it works for some people. Just hope he finds some way of earning a living.
it's funny you say youtube I do a bit of that but making the content is fine but the editing I am not a fan well almost anything computer I don't enjoy ...maybe pay attention to what games he enjoys or leans towards playing and try to insert some real world interests that relate to the game subject matter something he can make a living out of
@@KingatowCrew good idea! He’s into sea of thieves at the moment, I don’t think piracy is the way to go😋. He likes shooting games, id like to get him down the range and teach him to shoot for real. Maybe i could get him motivated into video editing, he could get paid to edit other peoples work maybe, if his doesn’t pick up.
I did get him into playing uboat for a while, that was cool.
how about getting him a drone that will get him outside to fly it and film and then he can edit the video 2 wins at once
Well buggered if I know.. Truancy has always been a problem .In the day, if a white child wagged school& was noticed out and about the cops returned the child back to school & the parents were notified, the child copped it back at school and from their parents. If indigenous students choose to do what they like and parents don't give a stuff ,the continual downhill spirial of no possibly of good education or decent work prospect , on going alcoholism/ drugs and more wasted Indigenous payments. The choices one makes chooses the path one takes.
"One"..."two"....."many"...........Aboriginal maths lesson...serious....that's it
My great grandfather taught indigenous to read write & simple maths to their gratitude allowing them to gain paid employment
Division is the only maths taught at universities theses days
Father’s not in the home is a VERY big problem
Every decade you get older and wiser, and the conclusion looks more and more certain;
Not the same species
The only things that are certain are death, taxes and that lefties always lie. Not all cultures are equal. Aboriginal culture won't count for sh*t when there are 50 million Chinese living in Australia.
Used to work with an indigenous fella in the Pilbara, he was an engineer, and during one conversation about differences he mentioned his people had words for one, two and many. That was it, do maths with that.
After 65000 years, they invited the stick. Who will take their math seriously??
If they had never existed, no one would even notice
Come on, they invented more than 1 stick, the speary stick, the stick with a hole through it to blow music, the sticks to beat together to make music, and the stick to throw and sometimes comes back
*maths
This is a huge problem in the remote communities and I do wonder if the lack of future development is part of the problem. The kids aren't stupid and know that if there won't be jobs and a future in their area then there's no point going to school. It's a simple choice: Should you go to school, study hard, graduate and live on the dole for the rest of your life or go fishing and live on the dole? When they ask for a good reason to go to school and study nobody can really give them one.
I doubt there's an easy answer but it certainly sucks to have a generation or three of children missing out on the 21st Century.
Love to see the indigenous dance for e=mc2
If they can sit outfront of woolies and divide a pack of camels they can maths just fine.
Unless people (parents or children) see education as a means of bettering their lives, it will never be a priority. Maybe they saw the bird dance and decided it probably wasn't going to be useful.
The saying, "Doing the samething and expecting a different result," rings true.
I'd like to see what dances Aboriginals do to solve quadratic equations.
Their maths apparently only worked once for that guy who supposedly invented the boomerang. A remarkable aeronautical maths feat that they only achieved once in allegedly 65,000 years. What I find even more interesting is that in the Cairo museum in Egypt there is a boomerang.
what with the pixelating of people faces, is a copyright thing?
The horse HAS bolted.
Fly backwards as hard as you can but you are not going to turn time back.
You seem to have summed things up very well!
The 10 times table in indigenous maths would smell terrible. Imagine how much shit 100 brolgas would produce.
So if you change maths then instead of multi billions missing we only lost 5 emus, 1 kangaroo and a stick. No wonder they want normal maths gone, to keep rorting.
How does one learn decimals with dancing brolgas? My mind is dancing and whirring trying to work it out.
How many words do they have for numerals? I'll wait.
Another lesson only wildlife is indigenous to Australia, aboriginals originate from India.
Pity they didn't bring that advanced mathematics with them!
Most Indians are quite intelligent. I suppose being alone for so long dumbed them down.
This is not true. There is Indian and shrimp Lankan DNA in some parts or Northern and western Australia from shipwrecked fisherman but the majority of indigenous people do not share mitochondrial DNA with South asians
@@DBolt-xb7sg BS ! unlike you DNA does not lie, aboriginals originate from India.
Some of my nieces and nephews went to a state school and if indigenous do not attend it is generally a blessing for the other students. Indigenous kids can be very disruptive.
It's not just whether they attend school, it's whether they're capable of understanding what's being taught. What is their average IQ?
A pouch of rocks.
If we ‘stole’ the kids from their drunken parents at an early enough age, fed them proper food, took care of their health, gave them some ‘tough love’ discipline, and forcibly educated them in a decent school system that didn’t faff about with indigenous languages and woke bullshit, you’d find some high IQs and achievers among them.
Always the parents.
Are they going to dissect people when they learn about fractions?
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Of course, one wonders what the dancing brolgas will do when they start on division, and have results which are not whole numbers?
I've watched both of your videos on this subject and I fear for the future of our country if people like Rowena Ball are teaching such nonsense in our universities. These so-called educators need to be purged from the educational system.
It’s not worse and worse… it’s worser and worser!
Have they heard of Ramanujan?
Close the gap from both sides.........one is not even trying
That one, this one, and another one = some.
Think it comes back to jobs for Aboriginals especially in the remote areas. This results in lack of drive and thus children are not motivated and/or parents not being so vigilant with them. This is common in all welfare establishments with no drive to improve and look after what is provided/given there's no concern to keep the place in a good state and thus is damaged/neglected/run into the ground. For remote regions perhaps the government can look to running trade vocations - learn to drive trucks/dozers and other earth moving for those mining companies out there as there's pretty much stuff all work out in real remote regions. However with welfare and eventually government likely to introduce universal basic income majority of people are going to just sit at home - crank up the drugs and alcohol and whatever as they wont have anything to do or live for to make a difference. Even when AI and now some mining companies run remote robotic machinery there will be less and less people needed to what used to be done before.
They sound more and more ridiculous everyday. 🙄
abos were so mind fucked when a huge ship from 1770 sailed into botany bay they didn't even acknowledge its presents ..
Such a comment is more a sign of your ignorance than lack of intelligence (or maybe not). If something big came and parked in front of your house, and didnt impact you immediately, would you be bothered or carry on like normal as it was something that didnt affect you. by the way, the word you used (presents) is what you give people, and I am pretty sure you meant 'presence', as it it is there (or here).
Nice to see you have such an eloquent command of the English language that you need to use colloquial crude language (swearing in case you were wondering) to describe their collective reaction to something they had no previous exposure to.
@@darrinottaway1805 If a spaceship landed in front of my house, I would certainly look.
sadly the various systems and pathways, elders and experts that are meant to help aboriginals benefit the most from aboriginal's being useless. "the man" doesn't need to hold aboriginals down their own people have imprisoned them with a culture worse then any chains
"Mathematics is Western and therefore colonialist" but also "Mathematics is created by non-Western and so it's cultural appropriation".
The duality of w0ke.
A flock of brolga landed near a flock of galahs. Now, not using the racist, offensive and insulting western style of maths and counting, please tell me how many birds there are using aboriginal only maths! Or is that dependant on which area they landed on the rainbow serpent and the direction of the smoke signal! Give me a f.ck8ng break!
Now who is being mocking of other cultures. Using your analogy, the answer to any question (maths or otherwise) by a christian could be assumed to be 'the answer is Jesus'.
@@darrinottaway1805 WTF are you on! Your comment is as stupid as aboriginal maths!
Please, no more “discoveries” of how aboriginals were even more wonderful than previously suspected!! My BS detector keeps blowing a fuse.
What is your low opinion of the education system based upon?
Increasingly bad results compared to the rest of the world?
This reminds me of a video from south africa where a faculty member wants africa to de colonize from western science and told her village shaman could shoot lightning from his fingers.
Maths is the universal language. While everyone else is using maths to facilitate greater technological advancement, the indigenous people are using it to design dance. Thats the crux of the gap between the 2 cultures in one sentence. They just need to show an improvement in indigenous kids passing year 3 maths, so teaching them a dance rather than arithmetic, that is helpful in the real world, will facilitate improved statistics but achieve nothing.
When you want to live in the past you have no future,move on
home schooling is done in the usa till certain level then out into the wider community
Well said.. "Truth matters"
And that's the good old honest truth... thanks for posting.
Could not come up with the wheel or written language. When will people face the truth.
Where do you get the flash of insight to invent something you don't need? That's why ancient Aboriginals didn't go into advertising.
Just a reminder to other viewers:
Islam came much later.
Science and maths had already moved on.
Back in the 80's when i was in primary school we had Aboriginal elders come out to teach about their culture.
He told me they didn't have a counting system they used there fingers to show how many.
If there was more than 10 it was called many and thats it. So how did they say they were here for 50 000 years when they never had a number that high.
Its all lies
My IQ just dropped to room temperature after this
According to this BBC documentary from 2005 the _bos only had 1 & many in their, stick age, number system.
The bbc also stated they had been in Australia for only 30 thousand years
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50 000 years of culture
*Invents a stick*
Perhaps not the best people to learn math and science from...
And a didgeridoo, and gives you the land you sleep on.
Show some respect.
Phukhed.
@@pheathaphoot No one sleeps on land, savage, and they can't give what they never had.
I declare traditional mathematics a sewer of inequality. A system that allows numbers to have different values is discrimination writ large. In my new 'equality, inclusion and diversity' mathematics all numbers are equal. For example, 1 + 1 = 1. Everything equals 1. 1 is the only number allowed and every1 is happy with this and any1 disagreeing gets 6 months in priso.....opps!
So if an indigenous youth breaks into 4 brolgas of houses a week and steals 3 echidnas of car keys , then joyrides and burns the 3 echidnas of cars after being ignored by 7 frillneck lizards of police officers how many boomerangs of time should they get prison ??
I see that picture from colonisation of australia and im proud!!! Without it this country would still be nothing but rocks and twigs!!!
If they wanna be , either , assimilate , or get off centrelink , n pull your own weight . Ya cant have your cake n eat it too .
Won't argue with you on that point. However I bet they could all count past 10 without breaking into a song and dance.
What happened to no school no centerlink for mum and dad
110 cigarretes + 32 beers + 3.7L of Unleaded = I need more money from the Gubbermint
This sounds like something made up to get specific funding.... SIGH
Times tables is an essential basic memorization.
0:15 thanks for the credit of INVENTING MATH, we truely are doing the lords work lmao.
Btw math wasn’t invented it was discovered.
Like Australia was discovered.