Church History's One Big Mistake

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  • @kdev7004
    @kdev7004 7 місяців тому +7

    I have been enjoying your talks L. I hope you will keep doing them.

    • @1Word2218
      @1Word2218  7 місяців тому +5

      Thanks. I have enough topics already laid out to last through the rest of the year at one per week. So the plan is to keep doing them for the foreseeable future.

  • @beto8334
    @beto8334 2 місяці тому

    So glad I found this channel...every presentation resonates...

    • @1Word2218
      @1Word2218  2 місяці тому +1

      @@beto8334 Welcome. I’m human so pretty sure at some point I’ll let you down, but I do my best to let God’s Word do the speaking.

    • @beto8334
      @beto8334 2 місяці тому

      just keep speaking what you hear from the Holy Spirit, and it won't matter if I think you've let me down ... God will handle it..😊

  • @kimberlyd7398
    @kimberlyd7398 4 місяці тому +1

    I read pagen Christianity ! Opened my eyes !! Recommend it!!

  • @kimberlyd7398
    @kimberlyd7398 4 місяці тому

    What addition is that! There are a few different ones by the author! Thank you for your message 🙏🏻✝️✝️✝️🙏🏻

  • @francineclave2207
    @francineclave2207 5 місяців тому +1

    I am so happy I found your channel. I have been asking myself for over two years now, is this what God meant “church” to be? Is this what he had in mind for us in his heart? I read the 1689 Westminster Confessional during Covid and it helped me realize what a great, glorious, wondrous God I belong to and HE alone is worthy of worship. At the same time I saw modern day mega preachers falling in sin right and left and worst of all learned about the book “Lies Jews Tell” by Martin Luther! How I wept! Why am I following any man? Our modern churches all seem to be going in the same direction…. too much how to and what to do and hardly any WHO we worship and WHY he is so worthy! So I have been taking a break from modern church and writing down for myself what I believe and what I have learned from God’s word. What Jesus and the Father have taught me from the word and how I understand (in context of the whole bible) what the spirit is saying in truth. Then how I will walk that out in my life. This is all done with the judgement day in mind so when I stand in front of Jesus, I pray I will hear well done and NOT depart for I never knew you. I am missing some of my fellow saints, but I can not abide in the body’s interpretations and applications. I very much appreciate the questions you are asking and your research. Thank you for having the courage to ask what you are asking.

    • @1Word2218
      @1Word2218  5 місяців тому

      I pray that you can find a group of fellow saints to meet with without compromising your faith. I've been meeting with some fellow saints in homes for the last few years. We rotate between 3 homes and usually eat together after our time of Bible study and sharing. It has provided so much more growth for us versus sitting in a pew looking at the back of someone's head and hearing the same person every week.

    • @francineclave2207
      @francineclave2207 5 місяців тому

      @@1Word2218 Thank you! More good suggestions 🙌

  • @bobjacobson858
    @bobjacobson858 4 місяці тому +1

    This is an excellent and informative video. Of the names of the religious groups mentioned, only one is found in the Bible--and this is one in which I was told by a member "We're a group of people who got 'fed up' with all the different denominations, so we decided to go back to what the Bible teaches." I found this to be true, so I obeyed what the Bible teaches and was baptized for the remission of sins.
    I'm sure that book about "Church History" is very interesting--but next to me is an even better one (its cover is mostly black) that tells me all of what I need to know!

  • @Ds74-pmrq
    @Ds74-pmrq 4 місяці тому

    You know, there is nothing like keeping a daily inventory . I can check myself to see how I interact with others and what my relationship with God is like . Then I can make some adjustment towards progress .

  • @shawnambrisco4598
    @shawnambrisco4598 5 місяців тому +2

    “Is CHRIST ‘Divided’ ???,
    Was ‘Paul’ Crucified for you ???,
    Or were you baptized in the name of ‘Paul’ ???”
    I Thank GOD that I baptized NONE of You.”
    ~ Apostle Paul ~
    (1 Cor 1:13-14)
    ~~~
    :o

  • @kimberlyd7398
    @kimberlyd7398 4 місяці тому

    I’ve been doing a lot of research , praying and studying of the word to realize church for the past hundreds of years is not what our Lord intended., or the apostles!

  • @GoldenGate-p3s
    @GoldenGate-p3s 5 місяців тому +1

    Amen 🙏🏾 🙏🏾🫶🏽

  • @Funkydood
    @Funkydood 4 місяці тому +2

    CHURCH OF CHRIST: Romans 16:16. Just saying. RE.: John 12:48

  • @JERRYSHONDA
    @JERRYSHONDA 2 місяці тому

    what is so obvious to the humble becomes so muddy for the proud

  • @daviddrew3372
    @daviddrew3372 5 місяців тому +1

    Every Christian organization ( and non Chris for that matter) does this. Even my own denomination. Large denominations make the mistake of trusting that local responsible stewards will , when making important decisions, meet together pray and consult the scriptures. No doubt this actually happens in most cases but then on occasion they make decisions which are clearly unsupported by scripture. Usually silly , minor , not doctrine related decisions. But these small variations wind up infringing in some small way , with the claim of the backing of holy spirit, upon the autonomy of family heads and individuals. Cumulatively these small decisions are quietly disagreed with and eventually the people they effect seek other denominations. More dangerous and impactful the greater Congregation authorities make decisions in a similar way but with the influence of political structures and monetary concerns and actually end up sweeping aside the clear doctrines presented in scripture.
    Typically, and this recently happened in my own denomination , at some point a good will effort is made to coarse correct without admitting that an actual and harmful set of errors has occurred.
    Meanwhile, individuals privately speculate using personal scriptural study that such a correction will eventually happen and patiently suffer the decisions of imperfect people. Humbly waiting on God. And watching as family members struggle very hard to even apply true teachings due to their experiences.
    It’s a sad state which the devil uses against many.

  • @Strutingeagle
    @Strutingeagle 5 місяців тому +1

    So why would God want to have a building?

  • @Defender_of_Faith
    @Defender_of_Faith 5 місяців тому +2

    That's why Apostolic succession is so important and that is why there is still one true Church of Christ

    • @katf5222
      @katf5222 5 місяців тому +3

      No, sorry. It was the Roman Catholics that began the process of adding to the Scriptures. Like the Pharisees, they added traditions of men while removing the traditions of God - beginning with Sabbath. Jesus is head, not the Pope.

    • @Defender_of_Faith
      @Defender_of_Faith 5 місяців тому +1

      @@katf5222 what scriptures did they add?.

    • @Defender_of_Faith
      @Defender_of_Faith 5 місяців тому +1

      @@katf5222As to the Sabbath changing old covenant New covenant. One is the day God rested. The other is the day. Christ resurrected

    • @johnmeadows5645
      @johnmeadows5645 5 місяців тому +1

      @@Defender_of_Faith When the church began elevating some elders above others it was the start of the catholic church. Paul warned about grievious wolves devouring the church and that is what happened.

    • @Defender_of_Faith
      @Defender_of_Faith 5 місяців тому +1

      @@johnmeadows5645 Jesus Christ himself established a hierarchy amongst his apostles. Even from the beginning, Jesus assigned different jobs to different apostles

  • @cooltkll
    @cooltkll 5 місяців тому

    @6:15 or there about u mentioned church of CHRIST.....that is the only scriptural name that you mentioned where as the other names are not

    • @bobjacobson858
      @bobjacobson858 4 місяці тому +1

      That's absolutely correct. I was brought up in the Lutheran church, and had to memorize creeds--and even Martin Luther's defiinitions of these creeds as well as of the Lord's prayer. I left the Lutheran church during my undergraduate years, became involved in Campus Crusade for Christ, and a couple other religious groups. While sitting at a "Power Hour" of Campus Crusade, it occurred to me that on one side of the room was a Catholic and the other side was a Baptist--and their respective organizations held very different beliefs as to how a person becomes a Christian. When I started grad school in another state, each day I literally had to walk by a building labeled "Church of Christ" and I became curious as to what they taught. Upon visiting, and talking with another grad student (a former Catholic), I asked "who are you people?" and he said "we are people who got 'fed up' with all the different denominations, and decided to go right back to what the Bible teaches!"--and this made sense to me, and over time I could see that they meant it. I was baptized there, and have found that although none of us is perfect, they make a sincere effort to follow biblical teaching and practice.

  • @Defender_of_Faith
    @Defender_of_Faith 5 місяців тому

    Have you read the Didache? I'm not sure if I spelled that right

    • @Theonly_Onyx
      @Theonly_Onyx 4 місяці тому +1

      It's a church manual not mentioned in the Bible that doesn't have a known author. The Bible is trusted because the old has been fulfilled and the new was written by apostles( those who personally knew Jesus).

    • @Defender_of_Faith
      @Defender_of_Faith 4 місяці тому

      @@Theonly_Onyx Yes, it's like an early catechism that predates the Bible by a few centuries. There was discussion of putting the Didache in the Bible separate from the Scriptures. As we know the council decided not to but it makes the case for the importance of it in the early Church.

  • @alexchambers7671
    @alexchambers7671 6 місяців тому +1

    What Is Your Name?
    What Church Do You To Go To Mr. ? ?
    I'm Curious !

  • @MarkPurcell-gk2jd
    @MarkPurcell-gk2jd 4 місяці тому

    Acts 2 the church started

  • @theoldguy1956
    @theoldguy1956 5 місяців тому

    Its called Luther.

  • @Defender_of_Faith
    @Defender_of_Faith 5 місяців тому

    Christ left us the apostles from which the church was built and then from that church the Bible was assembled.

  • @johannmeiring4208
    @johannmeiring4208 5 місяців тому

    We live on a GOD created stationary earth, not a spinning globe.
    Could be very uncomefortable to know.

  • @Defender_of_Faith
    @Defender_of_Faith 5 місяців тому

    If scripture alone is enough, why do so many people interpret the same lines differently and by lines I mean verses. Obviously the original scripture didn't have verses so maybe we should not be using verses in this discussion cuz that was added by man. Jesus didn't give us chapter and verse

  • @Defender_of_Faith
    @Defender_of_Faith 5 місяців тому +2

    I've only watched a few of your videos and I still can't tell if you're for real or you're being disingenuous

    • @birds_and_sparrows
      @birds_and_sparrows 5 місяців тому +2

      I think he is being ingenuous and has a fun style of making videos. It’s got a 90s vibe. I really appreciate this content! It gets to the heart of the issues! 🎉😂❤

    • @Theonly_Onyx
      @Theonly_Onyx 4 місяці тому

      Why do you think so?, he's right about what he is speaking on.

    • @Defender_of_Faith
      @Defender_of_Faith 4 місяці тому

      @@Theonly_Onyx He leaves important things out to make his position stronger.
      Example. Jesus is the authority. Yes. But he leaves out Jesus gave his Apostles authority. Jesus gave Peter the Keys to the Kingdom. The power to bind and loose.
      He is right. The Church is God's. We don't tell the Church. The Church tells us.
      Well how does that work? Apostolic succession. The Authority Jesus passed down through Peter.
      Scripture is everything we need. No it is not . We need a Church to guide us through scriptures. Teach us the meaning. The nuances. We needed the successors of the Apostles to determine what was Sacred scripture.
      The more videos I go through the more things like this I find. The more I've been able to think about it. I don't think it's out of ignorance. Since I posted that original comment, I have seen some of his videos. Debunked.

    • @Theonly_Onyx
      @Theonly_Onyx 4 місяці тому

      @@Defender_of_Faith Catholicism is apostate brother. The apocryphas are non-canonical.
      And to be an apostle you would have to had been with Christ his entire ministry.
      Jesus is the only authority and Jesus is the only one to give authority.
      And everyone is a saint if they follow the gospel and every is encouraged to become teachers(pastors/bishops) of the word of God. We can pray for each other but not to each other.
      Mary is dead on earth just like mose. And no one is heaven is praying.
      You do realize that inorder for anyone to hear our prayers they would have to be omnipresent and omniscient?
      No one is a mediator between Christ and the kingdom of God.
      You don't pray to a woman who died as a sinner. Mary also wasn't a virgin at death either-she had many other children.
      The things he"left" out were things not in the Bible.
      The Didache has no other and is a church manual not given by Christ or any apostle.
      Scripture is above reproach and is God breathed. If it isn't in the Bible and it goes against the gospel of Christ, Christians shouldn't follow it.
      Paul told us this when he told the church of Galatians.
      Paul told us this when he told the church of Rome.
      The council removed left out books and letters that were not canon to the gospel.

    • @Defender_of_Faith
      @Defender_of_Faith 4 місяці тому

      @@Theonly_Onyx 1) There only ever 13 Apostles. No Catholic worth their salt would say otherwise.
      2) Jesus is the Authority. Jesus passed authority to Peter.
      3) You said Mary is like Moses dead on the earth. Moses was at the transfiguration very far from dead on the earth. So I agree with you. Mary is like Moses.
      4) You should read the Didache. It is 100% biblical. Not inspired Scripture but everything in it is taught by most Christian churches.
      5) I believe God gave Mary abilities as the Queen of Heaven and nothing in the Bible says that can't be true.
      6) You said what we left out wasn't in the Bible. Yet in my comment a said what was in the Bible that he left out. I guess you missed that part.
      7) the Bible never says Mary birthed more children.
      What denomination are you?
      Where did you find that bad information in the Didache?
      Why do you get Moses is dead on earth from when he was with Jesus and Jacob and that transfiguration?

  • @petewiggins3562
    @petewiggins3562 4 місяці тому

    When one explores church history, there is only one church that is to be studied. The one that Jesus established. Christianity is a religion, not a church, There are over 30,000 churches that claim to be Christian - there is only one that Jesus founded.
    Which is that one Church our Lord established? Jesus said to Simon, "Thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven (Mt 16:18-19). The change of Simon's name to Peter is of biblical importance (i.e. Abram to Abraham). It is not the name change that gives Peter his authority, It is the keys he his given to the kingdom of heaven. Jesus is king of heaven and earth; Peter's authority, is limited to the Church on earth.
    The LORD God said, "It shall come to pass in that day, that I will call my servant Eliakim the son of Hilkiah: And I will clothe him with thy robe, and strengthen him with thy girdle, and I will commit thy government into his hand: and he shall be a father to the inhabitants of Jerusalem, and to the house of Judah. And the key of the house of David will I lay upon his shoulder; so he shall open, and none shall shut; and he shall shut, and none shall open." The words of Jesus to Peter are very similar to those spoken to Eliakim. Jesus' kingdom, the Church, the house of David (2 Sam 7:12-16), is the kingdom that will last forever and that the gates of hell will never prevail over it.
    This is the Church Jesus Commissioned when He said, "All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen" (Mt 26:18-20). In 107AD this Church was given the name Catholic.
    The Catholic Church is not to be confused with the Roman Catholic Church of Protestant Tradition. It promotes the fallacy that Constatine started the Roman Catholic Church in 312 AD. Constatine converted to Christianity and allowed Christians to freely practice their religion, Catholicism. The Catholic Church is comprised of 24 separate branches, know as rites. There is the Latin Rite or Western Rite better know as the Roman Catholic Church because it is Rome where Peter settled as head of the Church on earth, in the seat of the empire. Had he stayed in Antioch, the church of the west would be known as the Antiochian Catholic Church. There are 23 Eastern Rite Churches loosely centered around Constantinople (Istanbul). Each has "Catholic" as part of its name.
    The "problem" with the Catholic Church, as with any Christian Church, she is full of human beings, who are sinful and prideful. There have been heretics, less than upstanding popes and other clergy, persecutions, lied about, doctrines twisted, and many, many very poor examples of how to live a life in union with and conformed to Christ. Despite all this, the Church remains intact protected by Jesus Christ and guided by the Holy Spirit proclaiming the Good News protecting mankind from the wickedness and snares of Satan.
    The Protestant rebellion that began in 16th century has joined (though unknowingly) Satan's attack on the one Church Jesus founded. We have a common enemy. Satan does not have a chance against a united Christianity. As it stands today, he is having a field day.

  • @Defender_of_Faith
    @Defender_of_Faith 5 місяців тому

    Maybe it's not good enough for whatever Church you were in or you are currently in, but my church fully accepts that.

  • @Defender_of_Faith
    @Defender_of_Faith 5 місяців тому +1

    I do agree that there are plenty of people who want the church run their way and I believe that is a sin of pride and a lack of humility. That's why whether or not I always like what the Pope says. I have the humility to be submissive to what the pope decrees for our church. And he has that authority going all the way back to Peter and Paul

  • @Defender_of_Faith
    @Defender_of_Faith 5 місяців тому

    Jesus also gave Peter the keys. And I'm going to paraphrase here as I don't have a Bible in front of me. Jesus gave the apostles the power to bind and to loose and if they did so it would be.
    Now that sounds like authority does it not?

    • @katf5222
      @katf5222 5 місяців тому +3

      Nope. That is a myth, made up by the RC to grab power. Peter was not the head of the Church, and never claims to be. Jesus is the head of the Church.

    • @Defender_of_Faith
      @Defender_of_Faith 5 місяців тому

      @@katf5222 Christ is the head and the people are the body.

    • @Defender_of_Faith
      @Defender_of_Faith 5 місяців тому

      So what about the whole keys and what he binds here will be bound in heaven and what he loses here will be loose in heaven. What does that mean then?

    • @Defender_of_Faith
      @Defender_of_Faith 5 місяців тому

      @@katf5222 And since we're talking about what Jesus actually said. Unless you eat of my flesh and drink of my blood, you have no life in you. Or did the Catholic church make that up to?

    • @levanamcneillylittle9902
      @levanamcneillylittle9902 5 місяців тому

      You need to study the scriptures not the catechism or sermons. The Bible is the only thing that can lead you to the truth.​@@Defender_of_Faith

  • @rinkevichjm
    @rinkevichjm 5 місяців тому

    No it does not say scripture alone is enough. False it says but the scripture locks every one up under sin Gal 3:22.and Every, inspired and useful for …, scripture is so God’s man might be fit, outfitted for every good work. 2Tim 3:15-16.
    And Jesus says you are rock and upon this the same rock I will build My own Church. Mt 16:18 Jesus gives his authority to the leaders of the Church Mt 16:19 and Mt 18:17 and no where does Jesus give authority to create another church every Protestant runs a Church that isn’t Jesus’s - the church Paul is in when he was told by Jesus that it is Jesus.
    Because like this guy they and he refuse to follow what Jesus’s church orders.