I believe the DP is appropriate in this case. Thank you for your excellent and unbiased opinions in this case! Have a wonderful break playing golf! You deserve it! ❤❤
If you are in a state with the death penalty and the crime fits the parameters then it is what it is. I am glad to see the judge following the law and not trying to legislate from the bench. This is a trial, not a law school debate or Senate committee hearing.
True, but sadly politics stopped being about what's good for its citizens and became about stopping the opposite side of every issue at all costs. Even when legislators do agree, it doesn't seem that they have the power to stop it. Just go look at Texas where the state government took the desperate action of issuing a subpoena to Robert Roberson in order to halt his execution while they investigate serious concerns about the safety of his conviction. The Supreme Court then said the government has no right to do that. So if Judges shouldn't legislate from the bench, but the legislators have no power to intercede when they're concerned someone innocent may be executed, who prevents injustice? I'm afraid that I don't understand "it is what it is" in situations such as that.
I agree with your opinion about the DP for THIS case! I believe the Defense regrets getting this Judge. I think they counted on Judge Judge following them to Boise! Be careful what you wish (argue) for...
huh ??? it's ATs job to challenge everything. Even Judge Judge wouldn't have taken off the DP. It's such an ovbious decision and definitely a DP crime.
I'm so happy with this judge , so far! He seems to be a no nonsense judge. I'm so sick of this defense team, they just keep taking this case off track...🫣. He has had them arguing about anything and everything but this case! Come on 2 years now! Sorry , I think he thought he had the perfect murder. Pissed that he got caught! Just my opinion.
@@robbiepompa8725exactly my thoughts!!!! They keep delaying everything!! Have you seen the latest motions on trying to block what he ordered from Amazon? And the motion to not allow the statements he made to police while being taken into custody?!! Oh and the motion to block whatever was found at his parents bc “guests of the house” have certain rights and they didn’t knock?! Etc etc…I understand they’re doing their job but my gosh!! She’s going so hard after every single thing which I understand her job is to defend but it is a lot!!! Very frustrating!
Putting aside the culpability of Kohberger, personally, this crime is absolutely deserving of the DP. Whomever committed this crime, if convicted, should absolutely be potentially sentenced to it. To break into someone’s home while they’re asleep and take their lives in cold blood? I can’t see how that wouldn’t fall within the guidelines of capital punishment. Maybe I’ve missed something? But, that’s my opinion.
Young college students coming & going - I’m guessing the door was unlocked - not saying he had any rite to end 4 lives! My question to Peter - what is the blood evidence Incriminating him? Other than the car on area cameras? I agree when convicted-thru evidence in a trail - when u kill 4 people DP on the table!
u cant only be against the death penalty most of the time. unless ur just saying the judge followed the law. in which case it’d probably be better to say you think the death penalty is legally applicable in this case
I won't say Kohberger deserves the DP, because the trial has not yet begun. But, for this heinous crime and crimes like it, absolutely believe the DP is appropriate for any person found guilty beyond a shadow of doubt.
Thank you so very much for all your willingness to share your professional expertise as well as your significant understanding of complex moral issues. I am currently 74 years old. Throughout my lifetime, I have never supported the death penalty; this was largely based on racism and many people being unjustly framed for crimes. Technology has helped in this arena along with huge effort from groups such as the Innocents Project, etc. When I learned of the heinous crime of the murder of four college students in Moscow, Idaho, I was shocked beyond belief. Personally terrorized is more like it, even though I am no where near Idaho. As I watched things unfold on the media, my intuition kept screaming that Kohberger had done it. My rational mind kept trying to find some balance; meaning, he’s innocent until proven guilty but it never seemed to work. Once I was grounded in the case, I stepped back from it. With the case moving to a new venue and the Defense requesting that the death penalty be dropped, I heard counsel say that the death penalty “is cruel and inhumane” for prisoners on death row. I agree; however, what is cruel and inhumane is the slaughter of four young people in the middle of the night. There’s no way around it not being cruel and inhumane. Other than putting the convicted person to death immediately after being found guilty, there is no other way to compromise. I never thought I would arrive at this decision but after a long life filled with many hills and valleys, it’s where I stand with this vicious and obscene case.
I actually live in Idaho and live where the trail will take place. I am a believer if there is compelling evidence and NO chance a person is INNOCIENT then I agree with the death penalty. With the said it would be very difficult being on that jury! As we all are aware the justice system will have many appeals that will go before an appellate court.
unfortunately very few cases fit in the no chance a person is innocent category. Every wrongful conviction resulted from a trial that a jury felt contained compelling evidence, and we've all seen courts exclude compelling evidence that would likely have changed a juror's mind. I don't know, with appeals being such a long, difficult, and expensive uphill battle, a life is riding on how "honourable" the honourable judge really is. That's where I get hung up. I do appreciate seeing everyone's opinion on this though.
Death penalty is a tough one. Something I struggle with and something my mind flip flops on. Based on the latter, it’s probably safer not to employ the death penalty. But DAMN sone people seem to go out of their way to deserve it.
I agree. Couldn't think of anything worse than having yr freedom taken away, being locked in and with the knowledge never going out ever again. What's the point staying alive under such conditions? I have always wonder how those lifetime sentenced could sit there day in and day out (as in staying alive). DP is certainly an easy way out. I guess the only thing would be if there was a glimpse of hope getting released, but if he will be convicted, he won't even have that little glimpse of hope. So, if considered guilty, I'd say, let him rot in prison.
Peter…am SO appreciative of you sharing and discussing this with us. I have very clear views re the DP (which I’ve messaged you about before!) but it was illuminating to hear you speak about the legal aspect IF a State employs the DP. From a legal perspective I understand now. Thanking you and wishing you a super golf time!🙏😊
Recovering alcoholic here, 14 years, and Peter,I so admire your principles as it comes to redemption. When I got finished with treatment and met with my sponsor I had 191 amends to make to family, friends, loved ones and even people I didn’t know very well. Yes, we are promised GRACE, depending on your interpretation of the Word but regardless of faith I believe even non-believers should enjoy the opportunity grace & redemption offer. They free the spirit of the soul, they make for a better world. Even if your remarks weren’t necessarily in regard to those of us who are addicts, the ability to forgive and the power redemption of the spirit can bring make this a better place. Well done.
There are heinous crimes that call for the death penalty. Slaughtering 4 innocent college students who were in no way able to protect themselves….qualifies. If BK is convicted, he knew Idaho would hold him accountable for this act. If I committed such a horrible act, took 4 innocent people’s lives, and terrible suffering to surviving family members why should I get to live? I forfeited my rights to live by taking away all 4 victims rights to live their lives.
I’m confused. You think they are giving people the penalty because they feel like it.? You find it offensive that people think they can end someone’s life just because they feel like it.? Isn’t that what Bryan did (you may not feel he did it but I do and I’m sticking to it)? Isn’t that what murderers do.? End people’s life because they feel like it.? They deserve the same treatment because this world needs less evil.
@@Jazlin92665I think he is guilty and he should be fully punished. I just think the sitting on death row for twenty years is much easier than being in general population for twenty years. I formed my opinion listening to another prisoner who asked for the death penalty because life was easier for him to be celled in a death row part of the prison. The man was all about himself and wanted what was best for him. I wanted him to suffer and not get the death penalty.
I’ll never support the DP. You can’t trust the State enough to get it right. There are too many innocent people rotting in prisons across the country. Plus, in what world does punishing killings with death fix anything. Eye for an eye is revenge in my opinion. Lastly, I have many questions about this case, did they get the right person?
@ there would be no need for the innocence project if the State always got it correct. There’s a great doc on Netflix about the Innocence Project that is very eye opening.
I've followed and researched this case from day 1..I've accumulated thousands of articles, photos and Reddit posts. As much as I have real doubts about BK's guilt, the case is worthy of the DP.
Agreed with your viewpoint. Here in NY with Rex H, this serial killer, he can't get the death penalty as I understand it. His victims are in different states but I don't know who or where his case will be. But in general, death penalty is hard for me to be strongly convicted to.
All of Heuermann's charges are in a New York jurisdiction. The relevant crimes are believed to have occurred in that jurisdiction. The New York state legislature abolished the death penalty in their state in 2004. To date, he has not been charged in a state other than New York.
Thanks for this update on Judge Hippler's latest ruling. Could it be AT never thought there was any chance the DP could be removed in a mass murder trial, but felt compelled to try as best she could? And was it a necessary step to get to her main one? What is puzzling for me is if the prosecutor is continuing to withhold his evidence from the defense, for whatever reasons (say, FBI has lost incriminating facts, testing of evidence delayed, etc ), and the defense has to keep asking for more time in waiting to receive that, then once there is one huge pile of evidence given, requiring additional time, then another arrives before completing the review of that first one, which was presented in a mishmash and totally disorganized, disconnected jumble, and then the 2nd enormous package of "evidence" arrives in the same state also so confusing and disorganized, and incoherent whereby the prosecutor himself is unable to say how much of that is redundant or if it is (additional) new and not included in the 1st batch, how can there NOT be a "speedy trial" waiver from the defense? Is it normal for the prosecutor to present to the defense all, or most of the inculpitory evidence against their client in this way, and still leaving out crucial parts of it, too? Was there intent to make this very professional, detail oriented female defense attorney seem incompetent and annoyingly complaining to 2 judges because of slipshod, incomplete work and an inordinate amount of jumbled up incriminating evidence impossible to get through in the time allowed? That's what it looks like to me. It appears that AT, after sorting through less than just half of it, has concluded not only is her client innocent, but that some of the evidence has been illegally obtained to the point all of it was, or fabricated/adjusted to fit what actual little they could find against her client, needing right up front a very damaging smear/false innuendo campaign to assist it, (and an attempt to stop/eliminate surveys revealing them), and meaning ONLY 1 thing - an entirely contrived case and a fraud, on him, the public and the victims and their families. Did I misunderstand she wants all those gigabytes of evidence tossed? Is this usual or a normal attempt in DP cases, has AT done this before? Has she EVER come out and have her team as well as herself publicly announce and vehemently maintain more than once they are committed to being on the public record firmly believing BK is completely innocent of these DP charges? I see Judge Hippler not taking kindly to this potentially intimidating stance, as unimportant or irrelevant as so many think that is, and long before arriving in his bailiwick. (Did anyone notice a flicker of a smile (or was it a grimace?) in reminding AT a firing squad situation was being composed as she was speaking about capital punishment?)
People always say "wait for the evidence, there's more" but if they had more evidence besides the Touch DNA it would have been listed in the warrant. What we do know is if the case is based solely on Touch DNA, then the DP will be overturned on appeal and BK will be freed on appeal. Precedent in other states says Touch DNA can't be used as the sole principal evidence in a conviction because of it's nature.
Agree most points,queries..as AT was specifically appointed because of her DP qualification,I'm sure she understands judicial system and motions to take DP off.She may be sowing seeds for Motions to come,that are more beneficial to Defense @Trial.??
It is one thing to give the DP to someone you caught red handed. It is another to give it to someone where all they have is circumstantial evidence. If we find out that the latter is true in this case, then I hope the DP can be withdrawn before sentencing. IMO too many jurors have gotten it wrong lately.
My problem with your redemption thought is if he’s convicted he’s never sniffing freedom. As it looks right now it doesn’t matter how young he is he killed 4 people in what looks like a well planned premeditated attack.
You gotta wonder how criminals like this (assuming he’s found guilty) think that the DP is cruel and unusual but what they did doesn’t seem to be cruel and unusual if the act is not done to them
I sure hope they have the right guy. so far, they have shown nothing to prove BK did this. I hope they have tons of evidence from all those places they searched.
I’m on the fence. My gut says it wasn’t him, but then why was there a blood drop at the scene with his DNA? And why was he observed packing trash into baggies with gloves on? Even so, I can think of alternative explanations for both of those things, so that is reasonable doubt at this point We will see what the trial turns up.
@@ConstRepublic OCD could be a possibility. Was he known to be like that before the crimes, or only after? Those are the sorts of questions I want answers to before I am beyond reasonable doubt.
I served on a jury for a murder trial two years ago, in Colorado. I have never been more focused in my life as I was for those two and a half weeks. Thankfully in Colorado the judge decides the sentence. We were asked to weigh all of the evidence, try to decide who among the many witnesses was credible, and to come to a decision as to guilty or not guilty on six different counts. We took it VERY seriously and spent three and a half days deliberating. At one point I thought we'd be a hung jury on at least three of the counts. But we ultimately had consensus. I am not sure how it would have evolved if we ALSO had to decide the sentence for the defendant. I'm so grateful that this was not my job.
Even if you are a young person, once you have set out to plan and go through with these gruesome murders of four other young people, protection of society and not redemption is more of a concern to me.
My problem with the dp is the fact that innocent people have been put to death. I can't imagine what that must feel like. You know you didn't commit the crime, yet your life will be taken away... I do not believe one person was capable of committing this crime in the time allotted by the prosecution.
Innocent people put to death? That doesn't happen.. innocent people doing time, but not death. And there aren't very many innocent people in prison, these days. Remember, every murderer thinks he is innocent.
@@outoftime7740 Doesn't happen? Yeah fucking right. You can lie to yourself to help yourself sleep at night all you want, but keep that kind of bullshit to yourself please.
I like how you explained how you feel about redemption- that tells me your a good man, not that I ever thought you weren't! I have issues with the death penalty but that's me... I feel it's up to God ❤ Fourrrrrr 😊
It constantly amazes me how much LYK and I think alike. I absolutely believe in the DP as long as the evidence (proof) is beyond a shadow of a doubt. I can live with sending someone to prison when the evidence is beyond reasonable doubt, but the bar *must* be much higher for the DP.
This is one thing i dont understand about the law sometimes. Aggrevating factors, yes i hear what is said. But how do u tell a family whose child was "just" shot is not as bad as someone who was stabbed.
It's interesting because we just saw the Daybell trial and sentencing as they went through the processes for applying a death penalty, so we have a template or comparison,
I'm Swedish and live in Sweden and we don't have the death penalty. I'm torn. I find it offensive when people decide that it's their right to end other people's lives just because they feel like it. People that have done nothing wrong other than exist. In Brian Kohberger's case it feels like he wanted to do an experiment and that makes it even worse. I wouldn't lose sleep over him being executed but there's something about the death penalty, the procedure, that makes it so absurd "Ok, on Monday at 6 pm we're gonna strap you to a bed and kill you, but we'll make sure that you're healthy before we do it."
@@Cece-dad17yeeeeaaa Bryan just had the same car as the perp, looked like the perp, stole Bryan’s phone, and carried Bryan’s DNA into the victims home. Geeee how unlucky Bryan is. NOT!!
@@Cece-dad17 The prosecution has been clear that there was no 'stalking'. Although to be clear stalking does have a specific legal definition, which is not necessarily synonymous with his activities specified in the PCA.
Hi Peter, thank you for your honest opinion. I am not anti death penalty, but there has been a rash of people who are presumed innocent put to death lately. Ivan Cantu, Marcellus Williams, and soon Robert Roberson. Would you be able to shine a light on the appeal process at this level and talk about why these types of cases wouldn't be granted. Is it political or the law that failed these individuals.
I bet she is now she was walking all over the other judge. Interfering with the justice process through her motions and released and actively poisoning the jury pool. I’m glad this judge is finally reining her in.
@JJ-zr6fu absolutely agree. She thought was running the show so to speak with Judge Judge. And she so desperately wanted a change of venue & she got what she wanted & I'm glad this judge isn't playing her games.
why would she ?? he had zero shot at a fair jury in Moscow compared to Ada County. You people aren't the brightest. She has to challenge everything it's her job. The DP was never coming off regardless of judge
Is it only because this a high profile case (world wide), that this person has a “legal team”? Anyone else would have a single public defender paid by the state.
Might be because it's a case involving a possible death penalty? Not too familiar with that aspect of the US justice system so just a guess on my part.
I'm not a fan of DP, but This Crime is worthy of Death-- If the State has ample Solid evidence. Such heinous crimes-- I can't feel Justice for the victims in keeping him alive in prison. The biggest downside is yearslong appeals, after all the evidence is clear-- and at the state's expense. I hope whatever happens, feels like Justice for victims, who can never recover their loved ones.
I would love to know your thoughts on this. For the sake of a conviction, I kind of wish the prosecution reduces this to life without parole because that is actually also a death penalty sentence where Kohberger will die in in prison and I feel it reduces the pressure on the jury where they dont have to feel they are responsible for Kohberger’s death and thus being more critical on a conviction choice. I wish trials would be about guilty or not and then after a judge can decide on a death penalty or not taking that burden off a jury. Or is this already the case where the penalty is 100% the judge's choice?
I don’t think it will put much pressure on the jury as they will be picking a jury who is ok with having to give someone the death penalty. I’m looking at it as Bryan is scared to get the death penalty and his public defender is trying to have it removed for him. Since he’s rather get life… I would t give that too him cause that’s the easier sentence in his eyes. I think it is too. People doing long sentences, end up adjusting.
The smudge removed the death penalty for Lori Daybell as a sanction to the State because they were late with some discovery. The lateness do the hand in of the discovery would have meant continuing the trial (so that the defence had time to do testing related to the late discovery). Itonic that Lori’s defence atty didnt go ahead with said testing anyway.
I feel like the Menendez brothers have already earned their place back into society. They have contributed greatly to the prison community while in prison.
what are you talking about??? do you know the reason why she wanted it switched?? so he could get a fair jury which he clearly couldn't in latah county. Not because the DP is still on the table😂😂😂 the ignorance from some of you when it comes to this stuff is hilarious
@@jakestans She would have a better chance of keeping evidence out of trial with Judge Judge IMO. You can have an opinion without making someone feel like an idiot.
@MissCorgi315 the whole point of the change of venue was because they wanted a more fair jury lol. Just because the DP is still on the table doesn't mean she regrets the move 😂😂 she has to challenge everything for her client
Hi Peter! I hope you enjoy your days or hours of planned un-plugged time. I appreciate the update. I think Brian Kohberger is the guy and guilty of the crime but given what we have heard about his past and awkward adolescence where the right guidance may have helped him through it (instead of leading him to resort to self-medicate and to cultiivate himself into a killer) I don't think he deseres the death penalty. I am not absolutely against the death penalty in every case. In the NY case where victims were tortured and one's cell phone used later to tell the victim's sister about it, I think this person should not be left alive in a cell to reminisce. Not sure if this will be posted as YT may not allow it, but since you asked for our opinions. The judge can allow it but if I were on the jury sentencing, Kohberger, I would not vote for it. Take care.
I believe the DP is appropriate in this case. Thank you for your excellent and unbiased opinions in this case! Have a wonderful break playing golf! You deserve it! ❤❤
I agree 💯👍
If you are in a state with the death penalty and the crime fits the parameters then it is what it is.
I am glad to see the judge following the law and not trying to legislate from the bench. This is a trial, not a law school debate or Senate committee hearing.
Well said. 💯
True, but sadly politics stopped being about what's good for its citizens and became about stopping the opposite side of every issue at all costs. Even when legislators do agree, it doesn't seem that they have the power to stop it. Just go look at Texas where the state government took the desperate action of issuing a subpoena to Robert Roberson in order to halt his execution while they investigate serious concerns about the safety of his conviction. The Supreme Court then said the government has no right to do that. So if Judges shouldn't legislate from the bench, but the legislators have no power to intercede when they're concerned someone innocent may be executed, who prevents injustice? I'm afraid that I don't understand "it is what it is" in situations such as that.
I agree with your opinion about the DP for THIS case! I believe the Defense regrets getting this Judge. I think they counted on Judge Judge following them to Boise! Be careful what you wish (argue) for...
huh ??? it's ATs job to challenge everything. Even Judge Judge wouldn't have taken off the DP. It's such an ovbious decision and definitely a DP crime.
I'm so happy with this judge , so far! He seems to be a no nonsense judge. I'm so sick of this defense team, they just keep taking this case off track...🫣. He has had them arguing about anything and everything but this case! Come on 2 years now! Sorry , I think he thought he had
the perfect murder. Pissed that he got caught! Just my opinion.
@@robbiepompa8725exactly my thoughts!!!! They keep delaying everything!! Have you seen the latest motions on trying to block what he ordered from Amazon? And the motion to not allow the statements he made to police while being taken into custody?!! Oh and the motion to block whatever was found at his parents bc “guests of the house” have certain rights and they didn’t knock?! Etc etc…I understand they’re doing their job but my gosh!! She’s going so hard after every single thing which I understand her job is to defend but it is a lot!!! Very frustrating!
Putting aside the culpability of Kohberger, personally, this crime is absolutely deserving of the DP. Whomever committed this crime, if convicted, should absolutely be potentially sentenced to it. To break into someone’s home while they’re asleep and take their lives in cold blood? I can’t see how that wouldn’t fall within the guidelines of capital punishment. Maybe I’ve missed something? But, that’s my opinion.
I agree
I agree in this case, but I’m cautious about the use of the death penalty.
Exactly
Young college students coming & going - I’m guessing the door was unlocked - not saying he had any rite to end 4 lives!
My question to Peter - what is the blood evidence Incriminating him? Other than the car on area cameras?
I agree when convicted-thru evidence in a trail - when u kill 4 people DP on the table!
You said this perfectly!! I just hope they have some concrete evidence to get the right person.
I absolutely believe the DP is appropriate in this case, though I generally am against the DP.
I'm with you. It is assessed too often across this country, but this crime does warrant the penalty.
u cant only be against the death penalty most of the time. unless ur just saying the judge followed the law. in which case it’d probably be better to say you think the death penalty is legally applicable in this case
I won't say Kohberger deserves the DP, because the trial has not yet begun. But, for this heinous crime and crimes like it, absolutely believe the DP is appropriate for any person found guilty beyond a shadow of doubt.
Thank you for discussing all things Kohberger !
Thank you so very much for all your willingness to share your professional expertise as well as your significant understanding of complex moral issues. I am currently 74 years old. Throughout my lifetime, I have never supported the death penalty; this was largely based on racism and many people being unjustly framed for crimes. Technology has helped in this arena along with huge effort from groups such as the Innocents Project, etc. When I learned of the heinous crime of the murder of four college students in Moscow, Idaho, I was shocked beyond belief. Personally terrorized is more like it, even though I am no where near Idaho. As I watched things unfold on the media, my intuition kept screaming that Kohberger had done it. My rational mind kept trying to find some balance; meaning, he’s innocent until proven guilty but it never seemed to work. Once I was grounded in the case, I stepped back from it. With the case moving to a new venue and the Defense requesting that the death penalty be dropped, I heard counsel say that the death penalty “is cruel and inhumane” for prisoners on death row. I agree; however, what is cruel and inhumane is the slaughter of four young people in the middle of the night. There’s no way around it not being cruel and inhumane. Other than putting the convicted person to death immediately after being found guilty, there is no other way to compromise. I never thought I would arrive at this decision but after a long life filled with many hills and valleys, it’s where I stand with this vicious and obscene case.
Thank you Peter! I appreciate your views. ♥️. Enjoy your golf trip! You deserve a break. ♥️
I believe the DP is appropriate in this case. I cannot imagine losing my daughter or son in this way.
Stephen Sterns is one that definitely needs the DP once proven guilty.. especially for what he did to her before her death
Well not just Maddie he is sick 35,000 phots of CSAM that’s horrendous
I like this Judge ❤
Thank you so much for this! I have a feeling this Judge 👨⚖️ is a no messing around type guy!
new subscriber after watching all 3 of your videos on the laken riley trial! :) happy to be here
Thank you for summarizing your professional and personal opinions.
I actually live in Idaho and live where the trail will take place. I am a believer if there is compelling evidence and NO chance a person is INNOCIENT then I agree with the death penalty. With the said it would be very difficult being on that jury! As we all are aware the justice system will have many appeals that will go before an appellate court.
unfortunately very few cases fit in the no chance a person is innocent category. Every wrongful conviction resulted from a trial that a jury felt contained compelling evidence, and we've all seen courts exclude compelling evidence that would likely have changed a juror's mind. I don't know, with appeals being such a long, difficult, and expensive uphill battle, a life is riding on how "honourable" the honourable judge really is. That's where I get hung up. I do appreciate seeing everyone's opinion on this though.
Death penalty is a tough one. Something I struggle with and something my mind flip flops on. Based on the latter, it’s probably safer not to employ the death penalty. But DAMN sone people seem to go out of their way to deserve it.
To me, forcing a convicted felon to spend the rest of their life in prison is worse than the DP. Easy way out to me.
I agree. Couldn't think of anything worse than having yr freedom taken away, being locked in and with the knowledge never going out ever again. What's the point staying alive under such conditions? I have always wonder how those lifetime sentenced could sit there day in and day out (as in staying alive). DP is certainly an easy way out. I guess the only thing would be if there was a glimpse of hope getting released, but if he will be convicted, he won't even have that little glimpse of hope. So, if considered guilty, I'd say, let him rot in prison.
Peter…am SO appreciative of you sharing and discussing this with us. I have very clear views re the DP (which I’ve messaged you about before!) but it was illuminating to hear you speak about the legal aspect IF a State employs the DP. From a legal perspective I understand now. Thanking you and wishing you a super golf time!🙏😊
Recovering alcoholic here, 14 years, and Peter,I so admire your principles as it comes to redemption. When I got finished with treatment and met with my sponsor I had 191 amends to make to family, friends, loved ones and even people I didn’t know very well. Yes, we are promised GRACE, depending on your interpretation of the Word but regardless of faith I believe even non-believers should enjoy the opportunity grace & redemption offer.
They free the spirit of the soul, they make for a better world. Even if your remarks weren’t necessarily in regard to those of us who are addicts, the ability to forgive and the power redemption of the spirit can bring make this a better place. Well done.
It is written that grace and truth come by Christ.❤️
There are heinous crimes that call for the death penalty.
Slaughtering 4 innocent college students who were in no way able to protect themselves….qualifies. If BK is convicted, he knew Idaho would hold him accountable for this act.
If I committed such a horrible act, took 4 innocent people’s lives, and terrible suffering to surviving family members why should I get to live? I forfeited my rights to live by taking away all 4 victims rights to live their lives.
I’m confused. You think they are giving people the penalty because they feel like it.? You find it offensive that people think they can end someone’s life just because they feel like it.? Isn’t that what Bryan did (you may not feel he did it but I do and I’m sticking to it)? Isn’t that what murderers do.? End people’s life because they feel like it.? They deserve the same treatment because this world needs less evil.
@@Jazlin92665I think he is guilty and he should be fully punished. I just think the sitting on death row for twenty years is much easier than being in general population for twenty years.
I formed my opinion listening to another prisoner who asked for the death penalty because life was easier for him to be celled in a death row part of the prison. The man was all about himself and wanted what was best for him. I wanted him to suffer and not get the death penalty.
I’ll never support the DP. You can’t trust the State enough to get it right. There are too many innocent people rotting in prisons across the country. Plus, in what world does punishing killings with death fix anything. Eye for an eye is revenge in my opinion. Lastly, I have many questions about this case, did they get the right person?
An eye for an eye leaves everyone blind.
Not only does it not fix anything, it makes you (if you support it) a hypocrite.
agreed 🤝 Even when the case at the trial seemed water proof, often later it can be proofed, convicted person didn't do it.
@ there would be no need for the innocence project if the State always got it correct. There’s a great doc on Netflix about the Innocence Project that is very eye opening.
I'm never for the DP. But I do agree that it's the worst of the worst kind of crime.
idk why people are giving this new judge so much credit for an ovbious and simple decision. This crime is clearly death penalty worthy
Not an easy decision
@chacha-Ce83 what's not an easy decision?? no judge was going to remove the death penalty lol.
I agree with you 100 percent, you make things easier to understand.
Thank you for covering this case..
I've followed and researched this case from day 1..I've accumulated thousands of articles, photos and Reddit posts. As much as I have real doubts about BK's guilt, the case is worthy of the DP.
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Hope you are doing well Peter, you seem a bit tired, peace and hugs❤
Very well articulated Peter I very much align with your take on the death penalty
Definitely worthy of the DP. This was a crime that was meticulously planned for sport
Very well put Peter and I totally agree with you. ❤️
Yes i 💯 agree with DP in this case!
I agree in the DP for this case.
Totally agree with you Peter!
Agreed with your viewpoint.
Here in NY with Rex H, this serial killer, he can't get the death penalty as I understand it. His victims are in different states but I don't know who or where his case will be.
But in general, death penalty is hard for me to be strongly convicted to.
All of Heuermann's charges are in a New York jurisdiction. The relevant crimes are believed to have occurred in that jurisdiction.
The New York state legislature abolished the death penalty in their state in 2004.
To date, he has not been charged in a state other than New York.
Peter, very admirable of you to hope and pray for redemption for criminals. May they find their way to Jesus and be transformed!
Always appreciate your view, thank you!
Justice for Ethan, madison, kaylee, xana.
Thanks for this update on Judge Hippler's latest ruling. Could it be AT never thought there was any chance the DP could be removed in a mass murder trial, but felt compelled to try as best she could? And was it a necessary step to get to her main one? What is puzzling for me is if the prosecutor is continuing to withhold his evidence from the defense, for whatever reasons (say, FBI has lost incriminating facts, testing of evidence delayed, etc ), and the defense has to keep asking for more time in waiting to receive that, then once there is one huge pile of evidence given, requiring additional time, then another arrives before completing the review of that first one, which was presented in a mishmash and totally disorganized, disconnected jumble, and then the 2nd enormous package of "evidence" arrives in the same state also so confusing and disorganized, and incoherent whereby the prosecutor himself is unable to say how much of that is redundant or if it is (additional) new and not included in the 1st batch, how can there NOT be a "speedy trial" waiver from the defense?
Is it normal for the prosecutor to present to the defense all, or most of the inculpitory evidence against their client in this way, and still leaving out crucial parts of it, too? Was there intent to make this very professional, detail oriented female defense attorney seem incompetent and annoyingly complaining to 2 judges because of slipshod, incomplete work and an inordinate amount of jumbled up incriminating evidence impossible to get through in the time allowed? That's what it looks like to me.
It appears that AT, after sorting through less than just half of it, has concluded not only is her client innocent, but that some of the evidence has been illegally obtained to the point all of it was, or fabricated/adjusted to fit what actual little they could find against her client, needing right up front a very damaging smear/false innuendo campaign to assist it, (and an attempt to stop/eliminate surveys revealing them), and meaning ONLY 1 thing - an entirely contrived case and a fraud, on him, the public and the victims and their families. Did I misunderstand she wants all those gigabytes of evidence tossed? Is this usual or a normal attempt in DP cases, has AT done this before? Has she EVER come out and have her team as well as herself publicly announce and vehemently maintain more than once they are committed to being on the public record firmly believing BK is completely innocent of these DP charges? I see Judge Hippler not taking kindly to this potentially intimidating stance, as unimportant or irrelevant as so many think that is, and long before arriving in his bailiwick. (Did anyone notice a flicker of a smile (or was it a grimace?) in reminding AT a firing squad situation was being composed as she was speaking about capital punishment?)
People always say "wait for the evidence, there's more" but if they had more evidence besides the Touch DNA it would have been listed in the warrant. What we do know is if the case is based solely on Touch DNA, then the DP will be overturned on appeal and BK will be freed on appeal. Precedent in other states says Touch DNA can't be used as the sole principal evidence in a conviction because of it's nature.
Yes I noticed his smile
Agree most points,queries..as AT was specifically appointed because of her DP qualification,I'm sure she understands judicial system and motions to take DP off.She may be sowing seeds for Motions to come,that are more beneficial to Defense @Trial.??
Morning hard working LYK crew! Thanks for all you do
Great coverage
I agreed with you😊
It is one thing to give the DP to someone you caught red handed. It is another to give it to someone where all they have is circumstantial evidence. If we find out that the latter is true in this case, then I hope the DP can be withdrawn before sentencing. IMO too many jurors have gotten it wrong lately.
My problem with your redemption thought is if he’s convicted he’s never sniffing freedom. As it looks right now it doesn’t matter how young he is he killed 4 people in what looks like a well planned premeditated attack.
Good evening all. Will be listening while cooking dinner
Same here
I agree with you 100%.
He keeps trying to change the law! That’s not his place!
You gotta wonder how criminals like this (assuming he’s found guilty) think that the DP is cruel and unusual but what they did doesn’t seem to be cruel and unusual if the act is not done to them
I sure hope they have the right guy. so far, they have shown nothing to prove BK did this. I hope they have tons of evidence from all those places they searched.
Agree
I’m on the fence. My gut says it wasn’t him, but then why was there a blood drop at the scene with his DNA? And why was he observed packing trash into baggies with gloves on?
Even so, I can think of alternative explanations for both of those things, so that is reasonable doubt at this point
We will see what the trial turns up.
What is your explanation for packing trash with gloves on? He didnt want to get dirty? What about all his drive- bys the house?
@@ConstRepublic OCD could be a possibility. Was he known to be like that before the crimes, or only after? Those are the sorts of questions I want answers to before I am beyond reasonable doubt.
Agree with the dp for this case it is not easy to make such a decision and my prayers go out to this jury who will have to make such a decision
I served on a jury for a murder trial two years ago, in Colorado. I have never been more focused in my life as I was for those two and a half weeks. Thankfully in Colorado the judge decides the sentence. We were asked to weigh all of the evidence, try to decide who among the many witnesses was credible, and to come to a decision as to guilty or not guilty on six different counts. We took it VERY seriously and spent three and a half days deliberating. At one point I thought we'd be a hung jury on at least three of the counts. But we ultimately had consensus. I am not sure how it would have evolved if we ALSO had to decide the sentence for the defendant. I'm so grateful that this was not my job.
I agree that this case meets the criteria for capital punishment -
Great news
Even if you are a young person, once you have set out to plan and go through with these gruesome murders of four other young people, protection of society and not redemption is more of a concern to me.
Well said...
@@robertabarty61 Thanks.
My problem with the dp is the fact that innocent people have been put to death. I can't imagine what that must feel like. You know you didn't commit the crime, yet your life will be taken away...
I do not believe one person was capable of committing this crime in the time allotted by the prosecution.
Innocent people put to death? That doesn't happen.. innocent people doing time, but not death. And there aren't very many innocent people in prison, these days. Remember, every murderer thinks he is innocent.
@@outoftime7740 Doesn't happen? Yeah fucking right. You can lie to yourself to help yourself sleep at night all you want, but keep that kind of bullshit to yourself please.
@@outoftime7740there has been at least 190 cases which is 190 too many, stop hiding your eyes from the fact the level system is imperfect
@@outoftime7740it happens and HAS happened. The state gets is wrong A LOT and they don’t care.
If you were a judge you'd prob let all of them bad ones go free. Thankfully you are not.
I like how you explained how you feel about redemption- that tells me your a good man, not that I ever thought you weren't!
I have issues with the death penalty but that's me... I feel it's up to God ❤
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No comparison, the menendez brothers had an abuse defense from day one, BK- MALICIOUS- PERIOD!
It constantly amazes me how much LYK and I think alike. I absolutely believe in the DP as long as the evidence (proof) is beyond a shadow of a doubt. I can live with sending someone to prison when the evidence is beyond reasonable doubt, but the bar *must* be much higher for the DP.
Thank God.
This is one thing i dont understand about the law sometimes. Aggrevating factors, yes i hear what is said. But how do u tell a family whose child was "just" shot is not as bad as someone who was stabbed.
This was planned out and beforehand. Also the family is usually consulted on whether they want to pursue it or not.
Great News! I’m glad to hear the DP is still on the table for BK. And rightfully so. Soon, there will be true Justice, for all of the victims!
I asked You days ago why you think he’s guilty?
Crickets..
IMO, there's no better example of appropriateness of DP.
I agree with the judge 100%. He made an excellent argument. (Defense probably wishes they could take their change of venue back, eh?)
I can’t imagine what these poor parents are having to endure the defense
The one girls parents have made this a circus all on their own.
It's interesting because we just saw the Daybell trial and sentencing as they went through the processes for applying a death penalty, so we have a template or comparison,
I'm Swedish and live in Sweden and we don't have the death penalty. I'm torn. I find it offensive when people decide that it's their right to end other people's lives just because they feel like it. People that have done nothing wrong other than exist. In Brian Kohberger's case it feels like he wanted to do an experiment and that makes it even worse. I wouldn't lose sleep over him being executed but there's something about the death penalty, the procedure, that makes it so absurd "Ok, on Monday at 6 pm we're gonna strap you to a bed and kill you, but we'll make sure that you're healthy before we do it."
I think you maybe should look in to the case some more.
I fully believed he was guilty, I now don’t.
Idaho has death by firing squad
@@Cece-dad17yeeeeaaa Bryan just had the same car as the perp, looked like the perp, stole Bryan’s phone, and carried Bryan’s DNA into the victims home. Geeee how unlucky Bryan is. NOT!!
@@Jazlin92665 you forgot to mention the stalking didn’t you?
@@Cece-dad17 The prosecution has been clear that there was no 'stalking'. Although to be clear stalking does have a specific legal definition, which is not necessarily synonymous with his activities specified in the PCA.
I agree, Peter.
Love this judge
I❤THIS JUDGE❤❤❤
There are folks on death row in Idaho who have been there for 35 years. So they bump him off when he's 65? Big deal.
I don't believe in the death penalty.
I’m sure the four victims didn’t either
Thanks
Hi Peter, thank you for your honest opinion. I am not anti death penalty, but there has been a rash of people who are presumed innocent put to death lately. Ivan Cantu, Marcellus Williams, and soon Robert Roberson. Would you be able to shine a light on the appeal process at this level and talk about why these types of cases wouldn't be granted. Is it political or the law that failed these individuals.
Does anyone have any recommendations for a video that goes over the evidence they have against the defendant in this case?
I believe the DP is absolutely applicable in this case.
I am glad the judge made that decision!
It’s bizarre that the Death Penalty exists in the same system that will give a child rapist a minimum 5 years (25 max).
I agree with y,our, but am glad I won’t be on the jury.
I agree with you.
Still shocking beyond wrapping my head around it I watched all of it from day 1
So glad the judge denied these motions! Justice for those poor children. I often wonder if Ms. Taylor is regretting the change of venue?
I bet she is now she was walking all over the other judge. Interfering with the justice process through her motions and released and actively poisoning the jury pool. I’m glad this judge is finally reining her in.
@JJ-zr6fu absolutely agree. She thought was running the show so to speak with Judge Judge. And she so desperately wanted a change of venue & she got what she wanted & I'm glad this judge isn't playing her games.
@@samanthaj317 I hope he's not going to give in to any f her crap-ola and if she pulls something she should be removed.
For the most part I feel. she earns her pay. When defense is your payday? Not every client is easy. This one skirts impossible.
why would she ?? he had zero shot at a fair jury in Moscow compared to Ada County. You people aren't the brightest. She has to challenge everything it's her job. The DP was never coming off regardless of judge
Hi, I’m agreeing with you Peter
The state has a lot to hide in this case.
I dont like the DP. However, it was never a question if they could apply it to this case. It does meet the criteria.
Thank you for break down! Enjoy your golfing!
Is it only because this a high profile case (world wide), that this person has a “legal team”? Anyone else would have a single public defender paid by the state.
Might be because it's a case involving a possible death penalty? Not too familiar with that aspect of the US justice system so just a guess on my part.
I'm not a fan of DP, but This Crime is worthy of Death-- If the State has ample Solid evidence. Such heinous crimes-- I can't feel Justice for the victims in keeping him alive in prison. The biggest downside is yearslong appeals, after all the evidence is clear-- and at the state's expense. I hope whatever happens, feels like Justice for victims, who can never recover their loved ones.
I would love to know your thoughts on this. For the sake of a conviction, I kind of wish the prosecution reduces this to life without parole because that is actually also a death penalty sentence where Kohberger will die in in prison and I feel it reduces the pressure on the jury where they dont have to feel they are responsible for Kohberger’s death and thus being more critical on a conviction choice. I wish trials would be about guilty or not and then after a judge can decide on a death penalty or not taking that burden off a jury. Or is this already the case where the penalty is 100% the judge's choice?
I don’t think it will put much pressure on the jury as they will be picking a jury who is ok with having to give someone the death penalty. I’m looking at it as Bryan is scared to get the death penalty and his public defender is trying to have it removed for him. Since he’s rather get life… I would t give that too him cause that’s the easier sentence in his eyes. I think it is too. People doing long sentences, end up adjusting.
The smudge removed the death penalty for Lori Daybell as a sanction to the State because they were late with some discovery. The lateness do the hand in of the discovery would have meant continuing the trial (so that the defence had time to do testing related to the late discovery). Itonic that Lori’s defence atty didnt go ahead with said testing anyway.
I feel like the Menendez brothers have already earned their place back into society. They have contributed greatly to the prison community while in prison.
I do agree with you, but it’s a hard decision
Most definitely a DP case!!! The defense is finding out this judge isn't playing!
No not everyone can be redeemed
I think it should be re-phrased. " Not everyone accepts the redemption that is available".
I missed the beginning so yes on dp?
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Hi from Naples!
Also in Tampa ( well, my office where I am right now) . I live in Tarpon
Hi from Dunedin. Been sharing the Sweata Weatha SNL meme all day 😂
Yes. DP. Period.
I think the defense is realizing that they should not have pushed for change of venue.
what are you talking about??? do you know the reason why she wanted it switched?? so he could get a fair jury which he clearly couldn't in latah county. Not because the DP is still on the table😂😂😂 the ignorance from some of you when it comes to this stuff is hilarious
@@jakestans She would have a better chance of keeping evidence out of trial with Judge Judge IMO. You can have an opinion without making someone feel like an idiot.
@MissCorgi315 the whole point of the change of venue was because they wanted a more fair jury lol. Just because the DP is still on the table doesn't mean she regrets the move 😂😂 she has to challenge everything for her client
Kohburger why are you shying away from DP it's clearly meant for you ❤
#rewatch crew…..darn work 😅
Hi Peter! I hope you enjoy your days or hours of planned un-plugged time. I appreciate the update. I think Brian Kohberger is the guy and guilty of the crime but given what we have heard about his past and awkward adolescence where the right guidance may have helped him through it (instead of leading him to resort to self-medicate and to cultiivate himself into a killer) I don't think he deseres the death penalty. I am not absolutely against the death penalty in every case. In the NY case where victims were tortured and one's cell phone used later to tell the victim's sister about it, I think this person should not be left alive in a cell to reminisce. Not sure if this will be posted as YT may not allow it, but since you asked for our opinions. The judge can allow it but if I were on the jury sentencing, Kohberger, I would not vote for it. Take care.
Interesting thoughts on the dp.