Just found this one. Flipping heck. 250 kg with spindly forks and shit tyres and single piston callipers. These guys were total hard dudes. And great riders. The CBX 1000 is an iconic bike but didn’t realise you could race that monster. An average track day guy today would have no idea what that’s like. Excellent video.
now that's racing for you, no electronics, total rider skills, seeing them race and out break each other gives me the willies as those CBX's didn't have the best breaking system and then tires. many thanks for the upload
Real racing! 6hr was compulsary viewing every year, the bikes were literally off the showroom floor stock, any changes were instant dq. We need this racing again.
The Castrol Six Hour was such a wonderful race and a great breeding ground for so many Australian GP riders. Commentated by the indomitable Will Hagon.
Most memorable to me was the 1972 race when Joe Eastmure rode the whole 6 hours on his own on a Suzuki T350 and was declared winner only to be disqualified because the bike didn't have a horn! Joe won the 500cc class the next year on the same bike (with a horn!).
Yep, remember that! Had a T350R myself at the time. That DSQ claimed the horn interfered with the airstream for engine cooling but looking at my own bike reckoned that was BS - the horn was mounted too high for that. As Joe proved the next year.
I went the year Stanco entered a Laverda 1000 on the race. Also the the year Triumph entered 3 Tridents by Peter Stevens. I was there when a Ducati broke down while leading due to wrong engine oil being put in the bike. Great,close racing with stock bikes. The Laverda challenge ended with a hole being worn in the exhaust pipe collector box causing a loss of power.
I bought the XS11, my buddy the CBX. They both had their strong and weak points. Engine technology was way ahead of chassis tech. The Yamaha was easier to launch consistently and usually won the drag race. The Honda sounded glorious but that giant motor was top heavy and really expensive to repair after a drop.
What a great foundation Yamaha made with the XS 1100. I still have my FJR 1100 from new, with 145,000 ks and seven times across the Nullarbor. In 2012 I bought the FJR 1300 and rode around Australia in sixteen riding days to run it in. What a machine, it did it so easily.
Remember those bikes new as a kid and struck you as a big old chunk even then - bravery of the highest order riding them like that!. The CBX must have had some scrape marks down the silencers looking at those cornering angles.
Proper raceing 💯 skill these riders pushing these bikes a had 2 xs1100s 78 reg an 80 reg red then a black one with marteany fairing brute of a bike kick you hard if you got it wrong when pushing it
I had a 1978 Yamaha XS 1100 I bought new. Was a wonderful bike back then. Unmatchable roll on power, smooth and reliable. Raced it some with a buddy's CBX. Whoever got the hole shot would win but I killed him in roll ons. Had that bike for 9 years and a bit over 30,000 miles. Wish I still had it....
I had a XS11 with a Blake turbo kit and other mods. The big girl handled better than my 73 Z1 and was faster stock. 10 psi of boost got 120 mph power wheelies. I remember one great day riding with my buddies that I destroyed a new set of K491s. I would expect a lot of tire changes racing these big beasts for 6 hours.
Amaroo Park was a great circuit in its day. The safety standards were not the greatest but the layout was great. Sadly it is now covered by some upmarket houses.
That Was Great, Man! Back When Men RODE Motorcycles Instead Of Operating Digitally Enhanced, Computer Controlled Techno Machines! Thank You. (Like #384 - Comment #60)
@MrBCRC and that rotten dip as you came on to the straight,2inches from the Armco,then facing that afternoon Sun in your eyes as you did the blind left at the top of the rise...great fun ..
I remember reading in Two Wheels that the XS1100 shouldn't have won as it was really a touring bike but the winning bike's pit crew were excellent - easily the best crew there so the only one to learn from. Great times when there wasn't a traffic cop around every corner.
They said Crosby was on pole position with a 59 second lap, and then there is six hours of racing. Bloody hell, the riders must have been knackered even though they were in two man teams Racing CBX? Really, that is a hell of a lump to throw around a track. I remember Graeme Crosby turning up in the UK with his Moriwaki Kawasaki sit up and and beg bike. He was a good racer. Went GP with Heron Suzuki, and maybe Marlboro Yamaha at one point (too lazy to Wiki).
Beautiful seat of the pants racing on stock bikes. No aerodynamics no special nothing no electronics just get on a factory show room bike and drive your heart out. I loved those days.
The Ducati sounded amazing, as did the Honda six. I wonder if Pete Smith of Epicycle (RIP) prepped the big Duke? Pete was a fabulous engineer and a terrific bloke
Fast as the CBX was, they were fragile. It was not uncommon for the CBX to throw a rod through the front of the cases during races. The Mick Cole threw a rod the following year during the '79 Six Hour Race.
@gregburke773 know it all too well,I had to wait a few months for a tool arrived from Japan to split the cases...TOP RIDER in Ryde nsw was my local dealer..
Wouldn't think a modern GP rider would even get on one of those - it must have been frightening caning that round a circuit with the weight/handling and brakes on offer!.
I used to wheelstand my cbx everywhere,and yep,the forks didn't like it and those old comstar wheels?I broke a few rivits over time....ha,so long ago..
@@bradbennett3778 I had the low handle bars and rear sets on mine. You would have to clutch it to do a wheelie, no bottom end in that motor as I remember....
Would be cool if the Australian Superbike Championship organizers had a go at creating another endurance race. Supersport, superbikes, and hell, maybe leave the door ajar for grand prix bikes like the Daytona 200 used to. The Bend maybe?
Way too expensive. That's what killed off long distance Proddy races.... and flagging interest by the major manufacturer teams. The road everyone went down was, and still is, Superbikes. Vale.
@@joneff9713 What's too expensive? The long distances? The caliber of bike allowed by the wide scope of the entry list? Cars are generally far more expensive than bikes, and yet the Bathurst 6 Hour is in the form of its life. In light of that, I'm curious why the Castrol 6H as an _idea_ is so assuredly doomed.
The Pitman team had a simple "cheat" (they glued the rear wheel spacers together) which greatly speeded up the rear tyre and brake pad change, with a planned tyre change Greg Pretty wasn't as worried about his rubber as most of the other bikes.
Terrifying to see those old circuits with unprotected concrete walls right on the outside of turns. We've seen a lot of progress in circuit design, runoff areas and air fences since then. But the racing was better back then.
Okay now the Honda is a In line 6 103 horsepower The Yamaha is an inline 4⃣ with A Drive shaft not a chain. making about 90 or 95 hp and whipping that Honda with a 103 hp how sweet it is.
@RaginCajun-d3n if Yamaha would have not put a Drive shaft. On that XS 1100 would have clearly outrun. The Honda, it won't let Engine turn as many RPM..it's got too much resistance against Engine A Drive shaft. aint.worth a d*** when it comes to performance.The XS And FJ Series of engines would turn more RPM Then what they say
@@donaldhudson2235 they won because they could change the rear tyre in just less than a minute on the XS1000. When the CBX came in it took much longer or if they didn't do a tyre change they rode the last quarter of the race on a worn rear.
OMG just put wider rims and tires on these bikes, also I owned an XS1100 and would rather race it than any 6 ever made, there just too wide and heavy + the gas milage is better!
41 psi in Budd's rear? Doubt it, round there in the heat it would boil! They are telling that guy Porkies, hoping He'd tell their competitors!! 28 tops
Back in the day a guy bought an XS1100. He rode it for a while. Time passed. The warranty ran out. And about a year after that he brought it to my shop. As far as I could tell the ignition coil for the two middle cylinders HAD NEVER WORKED. So I fixed that and put a new chain and sprocket on it. The guy? He took it out to an industrial park, gunned it and held on - but when it came time to stop before the brick wall of the building at the end of the street - he didn't/couldn't and it killed him. Only thing I ever worked on that hurt somebody as far as I know.
I workedfor some years as a scrutineer for the Six Hour, including this one. After the last practice session on the Saturday (race day was Sunday) the footpeg rubbers on machines with ground clearance issues were pulled off by their mechanics with the scrutineers checking that the steel/aluminium footpegs weren't ground back to almost nothing. If a machine had ground back pegs, then they had to be replaced before the start of the race. And yes, the chassis of all the machines were stock, and made sure they were perfect, so to speak. Steering column alignment and such, but nonetheless stock. One year BMW machines were disqualified after winning (I think) because they had put a factory specified spacer on the top of the fork springs, instead of at the bottom. The idea was to give a tiny bit more cornering ground clearance. From memory, brakes were not allowed to be changed, other than brake lining material, or if they had a disc brake they could change the pads to a different type. At the end of every Six Hour, race teams would sometimes share with others what they had gotten away with, in regards to very slightly illegal modifications. Things like belting or squeezing a centre stand inwards to give slightly better clearance, and other things like that. The Six Hour was the best and hardest production machine race in the world to win in the 70's and into the early 80's. After that the manufacturers were basically producing racing machines in largeish numbers and then they could enter production racing, but everyone knew they were effectively racing machines in disguise. The race basically died a slow death once that happened.
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Just found this one. Flipping heck. 250 kg with spindly forks and shit tyres and single piston callipers. These guys were total hard dudes. And great riders. The CBX 1000 is an iconic bike but didn’t realise you could race that monster. An average track day guy today would have no idea what that’s like. Excellent video.
that Yamaha has a cardan, standard exhaust, mudgards etc. Is more 274 kg wet (+/- 250 dry).
These guys were professional racers, many GP and Superbike racers and a couple of World Champions too.
A couple of years ago I mentioned to a young bloke that the XS1100 used to be the bike to beat in racing. They were completely amazed.
now that's racing for you, no electronics, total rider skills, seeing them race and out break each other gives me the willies as those CBX's didn't have the best breaking system and then tires.
many thanks for the upload
Real racing! 6hr was compulsary viewing every year, the bikes were literally off the showroom floor stock, any changes were instant dq.
We need this racing again.
We certainly do need this type of racing again. I agree with everything you said.
Wonderful times. I had a XS1100 for year riding around Europes most beautiful places from Greece to Portugal. So nice memories
cbxがこんなにスポーティに走るとは知らんかった。かっこいいね。
The Castrol Six Hour was such a wonderful race and a great breeding ground for so many Australian GP riders. Commentated by the indomitable Will Hagon.
Most memorable to me was the 1972 race when Joe Eastmure rode the whole 6 hours on his own on a Suzuki T350 and was declared winner only to be disqualified because the bike didn't have a horn! Joe won the 500cc class the next year on the same bike (with a horn!).
Yep, remember that! Had a T350R myself at the time. That DSQ claimed the horn interfered with the airstream for engine cooling but looking at my own bike reckoned that was BS - the horn was mounted too high for that. As Joe proved the next year.
Yes, we use to watch this every year on TV, in the 1970s and early 80s..... My 81 CBX likes this, as does my 71 CB750......which won in 1971!
This is so much more entertaining than moto gp
I think next year could be worse they should rename it the Ducati Spanish League
Moto gp has lost its way, too much talk and bs, not enough Racing, blokes slowing down and warry of overtaking for fear of a penalty
I stopped following motogp racing after 2015, excitement ended . WSBK , BSB or even AMA superbike more compelling
@@paulthompson8613And what about riders and show in MotoGP ?!
I went the year Stanco entered a Laverda 1000 on the race. Also the the year Triumph entered 3 Tridents by Peter Stevens. I was there when a Ducati broke down while leading due to wrong engine oil being put in the bike. Great,close racing with stock bikes. The Laverda challenge ended with a hole being worn in the exhaust pipe collector box causing a loss of power.
I bought the XS11, my buddy the CBX. They both had their strong and weak points. Engine technology was way ahead of chassis tech. The Yamaha was easier to launch consistently and usually won the drag race. The Honda sounded glorious but that giant motor was top heavy and really expensive to repair after a drop.
Die CBX schaut aber recht stabil aus was das Fahrwerk anbelangt
What a great foundation Yamaha made with the XS 1100. I still have my FJR 1100 from new, with 145,000 ks and seven times across the Nullarbor. In 2012 I bought the FJR 1300 and rode around Australia in sixteen riding days to run it in. What a machine, it did it so easily.
@@guymorgan4930Кенгурятник установлен?
Tough guys out there. Real Gladiators! I salute them all
Remember those bikes new as a kid and struck you as a big old chunk even then - bravery of the highest order riding them like that!.
The CBX must have had some scrape marks down the silencers looking at those cornering angles.
I owned a 79XS1100f , never would have dreamed of stuffing it into a turn to quickly.
I had a 78 XS1100 too. It seemed to handle well and was a joy to ride in the twisties. So good to see this race.
Proper raceing 💯 skill these riders pushing these bikes a had 2 xs1100s 78 reg an 80 reg red then a black one with marteany fairing brute of a bike kick you hard if you got it wrong when pushing it
remember sitting glued to the screen watching this race.
dual horns [ for passing ? ] , stock pipes, and SHAFT drive on your winner ! wonderful !
One reason the xs1100 shafty won because they could change the rear tyre much faster than the chain drive bikes.
They couldn't even change the handlebars for straight ones?
@@gbone7581 the bikes had to be almost showroom standard. Suprised they even let them remove the indicators
Those were the days.
100%! Those things were beasts! And the tires were terrible. It took BIG courage to go fast!
@@robertrishel3685 exactly what I said, hauling ass on skinny little tires those guys were brave.
We simply didn't know any better so accepted what was at that time the very best available.
@gsd4me00 yep,got my L plates at 16/9 mths riding around on a machine 4. Got a 79 CBX 2 years later..and,yep I didn't die,ha
Supposed to say mach 4..stupid modern phones..
I had a 1978 Yamaha XS 1100 I bought new. Was a wonderful bike back then. Unmatchable roll on power, smooth and reliable. Raced it some with a buddy's CBX. Whoever got the hole shot would win but I killed him in roll ons. Had that bike for 9 years and a bit over 30,000 miles. Wish I still had it....
I had a XS11 with a Blake turbo kit and other mods. The big girl handled better than my 73 Z1 and was faster stock.
10 psi of boost got 120 mph power wheelies. I remember one great day riding with my buddies that I destroyed a new set of K491s.
I would expect a lot of tire changes racing these big beasts for 6 hours.
One tyre change (rear only) by the top teams. Not too shabby for six hours of racing !
Excellent. We won our class in the NZ C 6 Hr. '82 I believe.
I remember watching that racing on TV. In those days we used to get some coverage of sport other than football or cricket.
When men were men 💪
I sure miss my '79 CBX 😞
As a kid i always remember Graham Crosby and his moriwaki Kawasaki, he was such a talented racer and rider.
World Superbike Champion.
Amaroo Park was a great circuit in its day. The safety standards were not the greatest but the layout was great. Sadly it is now covered by some upmarket houses.
McMansions full of imports! Sad...
THIS IS REAL RACING BRING IT BACK A.S.A.P !
That Was Great, Man! Back When Men RODE Motorcycles Instead Of Operating Digitally Enhanced, Computer Controlled Techno Machines! Thank You. (Like #384 - Comment #60)
These blokes are racers of the highest calibre. Respect 🫡
Greg Pretty was a great rider. Shame about him passing early in life. I used to watch him at Adelaide International raceway.
I miss Amaroo. Great little track. This race still had the stop go corner at the bottom before the chicane was put in for the bikes.
@MrBCRC and that rotten dip as you came on to the straight,2inches from the Armco,then facing that afternoon Sun in your eyes as you did the blind left at the top of the rise...great fun ..
I remember reading in Two Wheels that the XS1100 shouldn't have won as it was really a touring bike but the winning bike's pit crew were excellent - easily the best crew there so the only one to learn from. Great times when there wasn't a traffic cop around every corner.
That Honda best sounding bike ever made
now this...... is entertainment !
They said Crosby was on pole position with a 59 second lap, and then there is six hours of racing. Bloody hell, the riders must have been knackered even though they were in two man teams
Racing CBX? Really, that is a hell of a lump to throw around a track.
I remember Graeme Crosby turning up in the UK with his Moriwaki Kawasaki sit up and and beg bike. He was a good racer. Went GP with Heron Suzuki, and maybe Marlboro Yamaha at one point (too lazy to Wiki).
Great video.
I would never have thought that a Honda CBX was used as a racing motorcycle
A Münch 4 TTS would complement this.
Beautiful seat of the pants racing on stock bikes. No aerodynamics no special nothing no electronics just get on a factory show room bike and drive your heart out. I loved those days.
Excellent racing.
Proper racing. Wow this takes me back. Brilliant 👏👏👏👏🇬🇧👍
Great race with old big bikes. Cool! 😂
Amaroo was a brilliant track.
I would have thought the GS1000 would have been the best bike for this not the heavy Yamaha 1100 or the Honda 1000. A surprising result.
Hales on the GS1000 was a lap in front when he dropped it, then won in '79, so yeah it was the best at the time.
It was all about tire life in those days. Especially on a CBX!
いやー今のＳＢＫとかと比べると、重量感あって迫力ありますね。並列でドカンと横にはみ出たエンジンとか、見てるとバイクが倒れたり曲がったりする様に見えないもんねｗ
The Ducati sounded amazing, as did the Honda six. I wonder if Pete Smith of Epicycle (RIP) prepped the big Duke? Pete was a fabulous engineer and a terrific bloke
Very good, on a whopping shaft driven bike with more torque reaction than my ex wife when seeing a dusting cloth.
Fast as the CBX was, they were fragile. It was not uncommon for the CBX to throw a rod through the front of the cases during races. The Mick Cole threw a rod the following year during the '79 Six Hour Race.
A shitload threw a rod in the garage when the vacuum tap failed and the engine hydro locked at start up.
@gregburke773 know it all too well,I had to wait a few months for a tool arrived from Japan to split the cases...TOP RIDER in Ryde nsw was my local dealer..
I bought a brand new XS1100 in 1978 I was too short for a CBX..
Was a great race, but what a nightmare steering one of those trucks around Amaroo for 6 fooking hours!!
DAMN I wish my mechanic could change out my shaft drive rear wheel that fast, mine takes a day!
The CBX had the same size forks as a RD350.... think about that!!!!
Wouldn't think a modern GP rider would even get on one of those - it must have been frightening caning that round a circuit with the weight/handling and brakes on offer!.
Looks that way too lol
They could also bend and jam under heavy braking which if you were at any lean angle locked the front tyre and spat you off
I used to wheelstand my cbx everywhere,and yep,the forks didn't like it and those old comstar wheels?I broke a few rivits over time....ha,so long ago..
@@bradbennett3778 I had the low handle bars and rear sets on mine. You would have to clutch it to do a wheelie, no bottom end in that motor as I remember....
Would be cool if the Australian Superbike Championship organizers had a go at creating another endurance race. Supersport, superbikes, and hell, maybe leave the door ajar for grand prix bikes like the Daytona 200 used to. The Bend maybe?
Way too expensive. That's what killed off long distance Proddy races.... and flagging interest by the major manufacturer teams. The road everyone went down was, and still is, Superbikes. Vale.
@@joneff9713 What's too expensive? The long distances? The caliber of bike allowed by the wide scope of the entry list? Cars are generally far more expensive than bikes, and yet the Bathurst 6 Hour is in the form of its life. In light of that, I'm curious why the Castrol 6H as an _idea_ is so assuredly doomed.
I think they only had a 120 on the back.
Racing a CBX is wild!
Amazing how they kept thise barges on thd road!!!
Damals waren Motorradrennen noch ein Kampf gegen die Gesetze der Physik und nicht ein Wettkampf der besseren Elektronik!
Quite a battle with the laws of physics it was too
How all bikes should be tested before being released to the public.
The Pitman team had a simple "cheat" (they glued the rear wheel spacers together) which greatly speeded up the rear tyre and brake pad change, with a planned tyre change Greg Pretty wasn't as worried about his rubber as most of the other bikes.
Great racing. I had a martini xs1100 back in the day. Heavy old beast. These boys are fearless!
an XS elephant?
So heavy. How could they be ridden I don’t understand
Wow look at those things! How could you even ride them?
On skinny little tires too, these days of racing were much more raw.
When racing was racing
Excellent, thanks
great race- great riders and real bikes- no asr-abs sh.t whatever- real drivin !!
Gosh that seems like it was 47 years ago... oh wait my bad.
Incredible I like it!
Low profile tyres and concrete barriers .. Yikes!
MotoGP has stuffed amateur road racing in Australia.
Terrifying to see those old circuits with unprotected concrete walls right on the outside of turns. We've seen a lot of progress in circuit design, runoff areas and air fences since then. But the racing was better back then.
great hearing will hagon again
R.I.P. Greg Pretty.
Taken too soon but died doing what he loved...
These guys have balls.
yes, the Honda is the more modern bike, but the weight and width makes me shudder!
Okay now the Honda is a In line 6 103 horsepower The Yamaha is an inline 4⃣ with A Drive shaft not a chain. making about 90 or 95 hp and whipping that Honda with a 103 hp how sweet it is.
Torque makes the difference a lot of times. A tiny bore and stroke 6 cylinder makes good hp. But terrible torque.
@RaginCajun-d3n if Yamaha would have not put a Drive shaft. On that XS 1100 would have clearly outrun. The Honda, it won't let Engine turn as many RPM..it's got too much resistance against Engine A Drive shaft. aint.worth a d*** when it comes to performance.The XS And FJ Series of engines would turn more RPM Then what they say
@@donaldhudson2235 they won because they could change the rear tyre in just less than a minute on the XS1000. When the CBX came in it took much longer or if they didn't do a tyre change they rode the last quarter of the race on a worn rear.
OMG just put wider rims and tires on these bikes, also I owned an XS1100 and would rather race it than any 6 ever made, there just too wide and heavy + the gas milage is better!
Agree 100%
41 psi in Budd's rear? Doubt it, round there in the heat it would boil! They are telling that guy Porkies, hoping He'd tell their competitors!! 28 tops
Took me a while to work out you had to lower the pressure when at the track and suffered the consequences
The early „Hooligans“ race 👍😂
They didn't "suck" the valve cover gaskets in, Muppets will have had the cam cover off before🤣 I owned the CBXs for 30 years.
Many good 'tongue in cheek' (and very funny to those 'in the know') excuses were invented to protect the sponsors/manufacturers.
but you didn't put it through the same kind of stress as a six hour race!
Back in the day a guy bought an XS1100. He rode it for a while. Time passed. The warranty ran out. And about a year after that he brought it to my shop. As far as I could tell the ignition coil for the two middle cylinders HAD NEVER WORKED. So I fixed that and put a new chain and sprocket on it. The guy? He took it out to an industrial park, gunned it and held on - but when it came time to stop before the brick wall of the building at the end of the street - he didn't/couldn't and it killed him. Only thing I ever worked on that hurt somebody as far as I know.
I'd like to know HOW you put new chain and sprocket onto a shaft drive bike.
@@swampmarshyLOL! THAT'S RIGHT!!
Don't remember what it was in for, now.
Tires perhaps.
How did you put a chain and sprockets on a shaft drive motorcycle?
@@countryjoe3551 I didn't - can't you read ?
6気筒のCBX空力悪そう🐕️
Excess Baggage we called them!
XS elephant
those CBXs are bitchin' bikes!!!
Hardcore
All this with unmodified brakes and chassis, i don't think so...
we saw surprisingly few wobbles?
I workedfor some years as a scrutineer for the Six Hour, including this one. After the last practice session on the Saturday (race day was Sunday) the footpeg rubbers on machines with ground clearance issues were pulled off by their mechanics with the scrutineers checking that the steel/aluminium footpegs weren't ground back to almost nothing. If a machine had ground back pegs, then they had to be replaced before the start of the race.
And yes, the chassis of all the machines were stock, and made sure they were perfect, so to speak. Steering column alignment and such, but nonetheless stock. One year BMW machines were disqualified after winning (I think) because they had put a factory specified spacer on the top of the fork springs, instead of at the bottom. The idea was to give a tiny bit more cornering ground clearance.
From memory, brakes were not allowed to be changed, other than brake lining material, or if they had a disc brake they could change the pads to a different type.
At the end of every Six Hour, race teams would sometimes share with others what they had gotten away with, in regards to very slightly illegal modifications. Things like belting or squeezing a centre stand inwards to give slightly better clearance, and other things like that.
The Six Hour was the best and hardest production machine race in the world to win in the 70's and into the early 80's. After that the manufacturers were basically producing racing machines in largeish numbers and then they could enter production racing, but everyone knew they were effectively racing machines in disguise. The race basically died a slow death once that happened.
The sound of the the Honda was like an F1 car the XS1100 bullet proof
Suzuki xs 1100?
Yes, heard that one too... good old Will Hagan commentating 😅
shame we cannot hear the CBX
just wondering where the ZR-1 Kawasaki's are? I mean where is the "GOOSE"!
@cynthiakoehne7004 your a year to early..
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Think this is hard? In the era, guys used to "scramble" Harley Sportsters...