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This is Duhz, GGs bro! We should test the 2nd Generation artifacts next due to the passive buffs you get from them to determine how they compare to Gen 1 artifacts!
@justkidding6482 if they're both awakened, it slaps for sure. I still think Kinnara is better paired with Hosk when speccing into Control/PVP talent tree. Syn/Frae has the BEST synergies when you equip the Goldencrest bow
your testing shows that blade did the best. In pvp you want to trade as efficiently as possible with severely wounded to win. blades traded at -6490, bow traded at -10195 and the heart traded at -11579. if you're running bow your taking 4k more sev wounded per fight and are gonna run out of troops faster than using blade. You should try again once bow gets 6 stars, but i doubt that 5% is gonna make up the deficit.
Exactly what I wanted to state and as I’ve commented above this is not the best way to compare def/ hp/ attack because artefact’s passive plays a great role in this
The viola Bow did more severe wounded at 28k compared to blades 23k. I think it can give more merits and help level up Heroes fast as well. I do believe it would have outclassed Shadow blades if it was level 5 and 6 Stars
Every time that passive activates 20% defence ignored. So directly will hit your hp as I’ve stayed passives are more important I think you should’ve did this test without artifact but runes / talent tree
There’s a reason you are using the blades, they’re are the most aoe of the artefacts there. With the archers you should not just take them in to battle and let them die, you should go in, fire the artefact, then retreat … So I would imagine you’ll do way more total damage with the blades if you play well.
I honestly don’t think this testing is right also the fact that all these artifacts have unique passives also is a big factor and the skills also if you used kamasakis skill it would of dealt more damage + you would have that defence on you yet in shadow games it just gives pure damage I think what you should of done to do the testing is take all hp from talents tree while other person takes attack than you could change to attack and defence and it would be even better if you took runes for hp /attack/ dedence and tested it this way we will get to see 100% accurate results of which is better I think artifacts shouldn’t be rated based on what they give but there actual skills and passive
@@HulksdenGaming so why don’t you try rattle spear it ignores 20 % of total defence as a passive which would be hard counter for kamasaki all I’m trynna say is that these results mean nothing because there are other factors involved it’s the same as bow cause it’s only level 5 I think a fair comparison could only be done by taking a rune for hp or def/ attack and comparing it to others the other person will take attack you take hp and you try again with same talent trees than you can see the exact factor
I think if you did another video like this, just tell everyone that you used the same method for all your tests, no need to record the ENTIRE battle every time - we believe you are not cheating or doing anything sneaky!!! But I think that critical attack damage adds a lot of randomness... If you get hit with a critical skill damage and you lose a lot of troops early in the battle, you will be at a very big disadvantage... I think if you could repeat this test again multiple times to help remove random factors, that would be good.. Maybe do the test 5 times with 100k troops? Something you don't talk about in the video is your deaths over time and your opponents deaths over time... I did these calculations for you: Viola's Bow: You - 534 dead/second Them - 394 dead/second Heart of Kamasi: You - 496 dead/second Them - 321 dead/second Shadowblades: You - 491 dead/second Them - 386 dead/second Now compare the rates at which your units are dying compared to his units: Viola's Bow: Your units are dying 35% faster than his Heart of Kamasi: Your units are dying 55% faster than his Shadowblades: Your units are dying 27% faster than his So in this analysis, the ranking of the best artifact to the worst is Shadowblades > Viola's Bow > Heart of Kamasi... Another way you can look at it is to think about what percentage of your troops died in the battle compared to his? If you use this analysis, you get these results: Viola's Bow: 58% of the total deaths were yours, 42% were his Heart of Kamasi: 61% of the total deaths were yours, 39% were his Shadowblades: 56% of the total deaths were yours, 44% were his So again, the same trend, Shadowblades > Viola's Bow > Heart of Kamasi...
All of them are good. depends on what you're looking for. If you want to last long, then HP is the way to go. If you want quick damage, then go for attack
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This is Duhz, GGs bro! We should test the 2nd Generation artifacts next due to the passive buffs you get from them to determine how they compare to Gen 1 artifacts!
Oh nice. Yes we should do that I want to see how that level 5 rattle spear is going to melt blades, bow and kamasi
What do you think about the syndrion kinnara pairing Duhz
@justkidding6482 if they're both awakened, it slaps for sure. I still think Kinnara is better paired with Hosk when speccing into Control/PVP talent tree.
Syn/Frae has the BEST synergies when you equip the Goldencrest bow
Why not just use Syndrion only without deputy ? Cause it's also to avoid the RNG crit damage
Because he didn’t think of it. Great point though
Nice. More tests coming
your testing shows that blade did the best. In pvp you want to trade as efficiently as possible with severely wounded to win. blades traded at -6490, bow traded at -10195 and the heart traded at -11579. if you're running bow your taking 4k more sev wounded per fight and are gonna run out of troops faster than using blade. You should try again once bow gets 6 stars, but i doubt that 5% is gonna make up the deficit.
Exactly what I wanted to state and as I’ve commented above this is not the best way to compare def/ hp/ attack because artefact’s passive plays a great role in this
The viola Bow did more severe wounded at 28k compared to blades 23k. I think it can give more merits and help level up Heroes fast as well. I do believe it would have outclassed Shadow blades if it was level 5 and 6 Stars
Imo best artifact for archer is rattle spear can you ask your friend to try that vs your bow ?
Every time that passive activates 20% defence ignored. So directly will hit your hp as I’ve stayed passives are more important I think you should’ve did this test without artifact but runes / talent tree
Hulk, i think you should both try purple commander test
There’s a reason you are using the blades, they’re are the most aoe of the artefacts there. With the archers you should not just take them in to battle and let them die, you should go in, fire the artefact, then retreat … So I would imagine you’ll do way more total damage with the blades if you play well.
The test was to determine the effect of attack health and defense, not the artifact skill damage
Bro the real test is by using all the atributes you have in your roster goldencrest when cast you take like 70% of the enemy health
The test was to determine the effect of attack health and defense, not the artifact skill damage
1v1 is not field test, hp matters in 1v1, in field battle, u get hit by both phy and mag dmg, so def stats buff both these, which might be better
Good point
I honestly don’t think this testing is right also the fact that all these artifacts have unique passives also is a big factor and the skills also if you used kamasakis skill it would of dealt more damage + you would have that defence on you yet in shadow games it just gives pure damage I think what you should of done to do the testing is take all hp from talents tree while other person takes attack than you could change to attack and defence and it would be even better if you took runes for hp /attack/ dedence and tested it this way we will get to see 100% accurate results of which is better I think artifacts shouldn’t be rated based on what they give but there actual skills and passive
The plan was to determine the effects of attack, HP and defense. I think the testing showed the differences between the 3 parameters
@@HulksdenGaming so why don’t you try rattle spear it ignores 20 % of total defence as a passive which would be hard counter for kamasaki all I’m trynna say is that these results mean nothing because there are other factors involved it’s the same as bow cause it’s only level 5 I think a fair comparison could only be done by taking a rune for hp or def/ attack and comparing it to others the other person will take attack you take hp and you try again with same talent trees than you can see the exact factor
If you wish to do a 100% accurate test take kinnara syndrion same talent tree no artefacts, runes for hp / defence and compare
hey man. BIG THANKS for this and others videos. GREAT JOB
Thanks 👍
wow nice,, thank for the information,,,
Thanks for sharing the test.
Cool 👍
I know this question maybe stupid but i wana know how do hp and def work on this game i dont see to much diferent wen fight thanks.
HP makes you last long in a fight. I don't know much about defense
Can anyone tell me the difference between an attack resistance bonus and a defense bonus?
What about mage HP , i have 40% hp and 40% attack , what i should use for archers hp or attack?
Use attack for both
But before that account is originaly from burning from s6 right???
Something like that
You should have had the same city faction as well, need to take away all variables.
True
I think if you did another video like this, just tell everyone that you used the same method for all your tests, no need to record the ENTIRE battle every time - we believe you are not cheating or doing anything sneaky!!!
But I think that critical attack damage adds a lot of randomness... If you get hit with a critical skill damage and you lose a lot of troops early in the battle, you will be at a very big disadvantage...
I think if you could repeat this test again multiple times to help remove random factors, that would be good.. Maybe do the test 5 times with 100k troops?
Something you don't talk about in the video is your deaths over time and your opponents deaths over time... I did these calculations for you:
Viola's Bow: You - 534 dead/second Them - 394 dead/second
Heart of Kamasi: You - 496 dead/second Them - 321 dead/second
Shadowblades: You - 491 dead/second Them - 386 dead/second
Now compare the rates at which your units are dying compared to his units:
Viola's Bow: Your units are dying 35% faster than his
Heart of Kamasi: Your units are dying 55% faster than his
Shadowblades: Your units are dying 27% faster than his
So in this analysis, the ranking of the best artifact to the worst is Shadowblades > Viola's Bow > Heart of Kamasi...
Another way you can look at it is to think about what percentage of your troops died in the battle compared to his? If you use this analysis, you get these results:
Viola's Bow: 58% of the total deaths were yours, 42% were his
Heart of Kamasi: 61% of the total deaths were yours, 39% were his
Shadowblades: 56% of the total deaths were yours, 44% were his
So again, the same trend, Shadowblades > Viola's Bow > Heart of Kamasi...
It's a very good suggestion but stamina won't allow all the tests. It will take days haha
Talent Tree's are the same?
I used the same talent tree throughout I forgot to show it
Bro you said my freager is 5/5/5/2 20 times 😂😂
Some people skip videos a reminder is good 😂😂 but you are right about that
I think his Freager is 5552
Бро выстави свою пачку против киннара нико
И да видео очень крутое получилось, ждем продолжение
We'll try soon
Bro kinnara focus on up skill 2 or 4 to level 5?
Focus 2 & 3
Okey bro,ty
Does that mean the HP rune is also better for archers?
All of them are good. depends on what you're looking for. If you want to last long, then HP is the way to go. If you want quick damage, then go for attack
your video never disappoints. great vid
Thanks