Can You Bracket AND Focus Stack for Perfectly Exposed & Razor Sharp Landscape Photos?!

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  • @daveg8993
    @daveg8993 Рік тому +2

    For years I had envied artists and their ability to 'make their own light' in their paintings and have their scenes perfectly light balanced, while photographers had to meter for either the light or the shadows and accept the result, or result to dodging and burning which often times was either very time consuming and/or resource intensive (darkroom days). Now, with HDR and focus stacking, what your eye sees in the field is now what you can get in the final product. Pure genius. Thanks for the tutorial.

  • @OutdoorActionPhoto
    @OutdoorActionPhoto 4 роки тому +21

    I would like to thank all the computer programmers that have made this video possible. And you Mark, for making sense of it all.

  • @rayganrambles
    @rayganrambles 4 роки тому +31

    My biggest takeaway was "Just go out and shoot." I get stuck with Analysis Paralysis when it comes to weather conditions. The rest of the tutorial is just the frosting on the cake. Thank you for posting these. I'm learning a LOT!

  • @Shewearsblush
    @Shewearsblush 4 роки тому +11

    I don’t know why but the intro was so calming

  • @mariosnicolaou8770
    @mariosnicolaou8770 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for another excellent video Mark. Brilliant work.

  • @ForrestWest
    @ForrestWest 4 роки тому +1

    Informative video! It seems like you would focus at the first spot on the berries and do a bracket, focus on the second spot and do a bracket and focus on the third spot and do a bracket and you would be finished except for the processing. At home you would just focus stack the three bracketed shots once they were merged into an HDR image. Moving the focus point and taking images and then going back and bracketing seems like it would take a lot more moving around and time.

    • @freetibet1000
      @freetibet1000 3 роки тому

      I agree! I would also do it the way you describe it except I would do the focus stack merge first in the post process, just like Mark did.

  • @stu27carey
    @stu27carey 4 роки тому +28

    The beginning setting up the tripod changing lenses is it just me that finds the sound so satisfying, another great video👍😁

    • @MarkDenneyPhoto
      @MarkDenneyPhoto  4 роки тому +2

      I feel the same way - love the sounds of photography!

    • @SachaSG
      @SachaSG 4 роки тому

      I've been wondering about this for a while .. Thanks for sharing.. very useful

    • @alanhowe6588
      @alanhowe6588 4 роки тому +1

      I completely agree! It was my first impression - very calming and enticingly ritualistic. Yet another outstanding video in content & production.

  • @andrewadams8164
    @andrewadams8164 3 роки тому

    I have subscribed and watched all of your videos. This is an older video, but it was a game changer for me. Thank you so much. Keep up the great work.

  • @MFP_Photography
    @MFP_Photography 4 роки тому +1

    Great video. Nice to see how others are doing this process. I have found that when I shoot a 5 shot bracketed exposure (2 stop per bracket) I get one shot with enough dynamic range where I don't have to do any exposure blending (90% of the time). That way I do 2-5 bracketed shot sequences for focus and let the camera handle the auto bracketing exposures. Then I determine (1) which shot in the bracket meets all my exposure needs; (2) grab the same shot sequence from the bracketd shot groups; (3) apply basic settings, sync, align; (4) complete the focus stacking process with the selected shots ; (5) process the final bracketed composite with needed adjustments in LR or PS. Just speeds up the process a little bit.

    • @MarkDenneyPhoto
      @MarkDenneyPhoto  4 роки тому

      Thank ya Mickey! That's a great workflow - I usually end up taking more than I need as well just to be safe.

  • @michaelmcculloughphotograp8571
    @michaelmcculloughphotograp8571 3 роки тому

    Thanks Mark, you are a great educator.

  • @ikoncoachingbehindthescenes

    I've been doing video as part of my work for a while and realized with a slight investment I could explore photography. I've enjoyed learning to see the world around me through a different "lens".

  • @AndrewPenner
    @AndrewPenner 4 роки тому +3

    When I got my first DSLR I was fascinated by macro photography and HDR. So I did a lot of focus stacked HDR to offset my gear’s limits (because a rebel T7 and kit lens is not amazing for either). I still often use exposure stacking when doing a panorama or other situations where there’s a huge dynamic range (shooting a car with a vibrant sunset in the background for example). I’d just never made the mental jump to using focus stacking & HDR for landscapes or similar situations. Great video again Mark!

  • @Chris_Wolfgram
    @Chris_Wolfgram 3 роки тому

    Once again, this advice goes completely along with fishing. If you wait for perfect conditions, you wont get out much. If you don't get out much, in the end, you won't be as successful. Anyway, using this technique looks great :) Now do it 5 frames wide, by 5 frames tall, for a 25 shot stitch, which has, not only perfect focus and perfect exposure, but crazy high resolution too :) I want to see a shot done like this with 1+ Gigapixel resolution ;)

  • @echoauxgen
    @echoauxgen 3 роки тому

    You just solved the fast lens problem of focus and blurring and not all, even close, not in focus!!! Thanks for some more play time ideas out in the backyard.

  • @GirdHerd
    @GirdHerd Рік тому

    Very helpful, Mark. Thanks. You combined two techniques that I'm trying to master.

  • @OzarkBill
    @OzarkBill 3 роки тому +1

    I appreciate your tutorial and have been enjoying your videos. I would like to make a couple of points. First, I don't think this scene needed exposure bracketing. You could have found a better situation for this example. Second, I would like to disagree with your order of operations in capturing your exposures. Why wouldn't you exposure bracket (auto) at each focus location? By changing your focus location at each of your three "exposures", I think you are allowing for potential variability in what is in focus. This could allow for specific local patches that are not in focus, potentially being very obvious.
    I have not done a lot of this myself, so perhaps there is something I've overlooked.

  • @hunterjacob8276
    @hunterjacob8276 2 роки тому

    love this style of photography.

  • @keithlundquist5157
    @keithlundquist5157 4 роки тому +2

    For the past several months, that has been my top question I wanted answered. Thanks for making it easy to understand!

  • @chrishart8251
    @chrishart8251 2 роки тому

    Your videos are so informative and delivered in an easy to understand, and more importantly apply tutorial. Thank you kindly.

  • @neilcole3406
    @neilcole3406 4 роки тому +4

    Thank you, now l am wiser about focus stacking!

  • @manojgoradia8486
    @manojgoradia8486 3 роки тому

    Nice and all explanatory video ..what exposure communication you prefer for plus minus.....one stop or 2 stop for 3 stop compensation

  • @sjsphotog
    @sjsphotog 3 роки тому

    Great info and tutorisl. Thanks.

  • @coffee_artist
    @coffee_artist 4 роки тому +8

    Yes! I’ve been waiting for this video!

  • @KnuteJPhotos
    @KnuteJPhotos 3 роки тому +3

    I’ve practiced this technique last time I went out chasing waterfalls but my workflow was a tad different. When I’m at a focus point I’d take my 3 exposures for the bracket then my blank then change focus and repeat. Then I did all 3 hdr stacks first with same edits then threw it into photoshop for the focus stack. Now I’m no pro and it seemed to have worked fine but do you feel that’s a improper way or a way that could cause some issues?

  • @Winjunkie1
    @Winjunkie1 3 роки тому +1

    Great Job! For me it's a lot easier to take the exposure bracketing on every single focuspoint first, blend into HDR in the RAW converter and then do the focus stacking. This way it's a lot easier to see, if photoshop works well with stacking. 😉

  • @lanceanderson4531
    @lanceanderson4531 2 роки тому

    Thank you for this video. I was wondering how you would handle a moving subject in this situation without raising the ISO? Many thanks

  • @margueritemoore9428
    @margueritemoore9428 3 роки тому

    This information was very helpful. I just completed studying a NYIP course and the last thing I studied was focus stacking. Of course, I understood what it was. But now that I have seen your video, you make it so easy to fully understand. Thank you.

  • @johnsharples6641
    @johnsharples6641 4 роки тому

    Hey Mark. Another great instructional video. I have, however, one question and one comment. Question. When changing lenses with the mirrorless camera do you have a problem with dist on the sensor? Comment. Going from LR to PS and back to LR for the focus / bracketing operation then the fiddling about in PS to focus stack seems a lot of unnecessary work when the whole exercise can be done in two steps in Affinity photo and achieve the same, if not better, result.

  • @fuedle08
    @fuedle08 4 роки тому

    Thanks, the idea with the hand is good !

  • @lliamarden8560
    @lliamarden8560 2 роки тому +1

    This might have been asked and answered, but does it matter if you focus stack first, then blend exposures, or can you do it in either order? I was also wondering if it would be easier to auto bracket shoot each focus point and proceed from there, rather than going through the exposures one at a time with a series of focus points.

  • @patcosgrave1546
    @patcosgrave1546 3 роки тому

    Clarity itself superb video

  • @irajnaghash
    @irajnaghash 2 роки тому

    Thank you I have learn a lot

  • @danieljarman1313
    @danieljarman1313 4 роки тому

    I've used the focus stack bracketing in cameraa for my Fuji. it works well to pick focus points. You then stack in program

  • @Hanaki1984
    @Hanaki1984 3 роки тому

    awesome info helpful, and issues I have with haveing to have perfect conditions just gotta go out alone or not

  • @AmericanPatriot447
    @AmericanPatriot447 4 роки тому

    Super video tutorial....I can’t wait to try this advice! Thanks!

  • @alchemist_x79
    @alchemist_x79 3 роки тому +3

    Honestly, I like that not all of the branch was in focus. It added more visual interest, at least to me, than if it was all focused and razor sharp.

  • @deborahcorreale352
    @deborahcorreale352 3 роки тому

    Great video, makes focus stacking and exposure bracketing seem easy

  • @emilebaudot904
    @emilebaudot904 3 роки тому

    Well put across Mark....!

  • @TomWindeknecht
    @TomWindeknecht 3 роки тому +4

    The hand shot idea is so good! I recently took bracketed and focus stacked shots and they are SO hard to tell the difference in Lightroom (haha!)

  • @zacharypump5910
    @zacharypump5910 3 роки тому

    Great video! As a small aside that's a bit off topic, one reason most camera bag layout systems are crap is because they force you to set dividers that allow for a particular lens mounted on the camera. Meaning you had to swap back to the other lens just to put the camera away, the alternative would have been a more annoying re-shuffle of the velcro dividers. Swapping lenses in the field is probably my biggest peeve, and bags are crap at facilitating this.

  • @kwchalky02
    @kwchalky02 4 роки тому

    Interesting and helpful video. Thanks.

    • @kwchalky02
      @kwchalky02 4 роки тому

      Do you ever use in-camera focus stacking?

  • @chifineart
    @chifineart Рік тому

    @Mark - thank you for this video. I use the Sony a7r5 which has the auto focus bracketing feature build in. It doesn't blend the photos in-camera it stores each set of focus bracket file into each folder. So in this case, each folder would house a set of focus bracket files for each exposure. In your video, you priority exposure first and then focus stacking. My method due to Sony's auto focus stacking feature, I would combine the focus stacks first for each exposure and then perform the HDR merge at the very end. Do you see any issues with this workflow where the order is switched?

  • @robertleeluben
    @robertleeluben 3 роки тому

    I could hug you for that hand trick. The rest of this is way above my grade still but that simple tip was worth the trip.

  • @gregoryjamesboyce
    @gregoryjamesboyce 4 роки тому

    Content is always great. What I really like most is your honest disclosure of who you are. I feel like I'm in your office and you're talking to me. Telling me, "Oops I shouda taken another set or two focused here and here." Well done Mark.

    • @MarkDenneyPhoto
      @MarkDenneyPhoto  4 роки тому

      Really appreciate that Gregory - great to hear you enjoy the videos!

    • @katherinemarymeier5478
      @katherinemarymeier5478 3 роки тому

      Yes, I like seeing the "oops" in the process, because that helps us really learn. Bad examples vs. good examples of composition, exposure, and so on.

  • @hectorbetancourt5642
    @hectorbetancourt5642 3 роки тому

    Hi I have lot of help on your videos thanks! I have a question I’m new in Fujifilm i watch that at the beginning of this video when you change the things on your dials is reflected on your lcd in real time, how do you that?

  • @glennwadlegih1896
    @glennwadlegih1896 3 роки тому

    Perfect! Having the error of too few focus points in the video really drove home. Much more effective than a squeaky clean how to video . As always, thank you.

  • @roberthennessey128
    @roberthennessey128 4 роки тому

    This will give me something to learn and try for the new year.....thank you Mark....Happy Holidays and have a great and healthy New Year.

  • @GreyGhost-r4z
    @GreyGhost-r4z 3 роки тому

    Your videos are great I’m a film shooter moving into digital

  • @dr.surajprakashsahoo2502
    @dr.surajprakashsahoo2502 4 роки тому

    Sir i am a big fan of yours...i like the details and information of your blogs...As a beginner the photographers struggle with the watermark orb logos in their photography...it will really be interesting to listen a talk from you about the size, positioning and importance of watermarking on the photos....and what is your experience in watermarking??

  • @robertdavis1255
    @robertdavis1255 4 роки тому

    Thanks for sharing.... I am learning more about this process, so many thanks for information... Cheers

  • @gerardoberetta
    @gerardoberetta 3 роки тому

    Mark, as always really to the point explanation , thank's much !

  • @natew.455
    @natew.455 2 роки тому

    Lol, I was just thinking about visualising an image before going out to take photos, and making it a part of my process. Thanks for this!

  • @richardsmith5021
    @richardsmith5021 4 роки тому

    Have been wanting to experiment with Focus Stacking but hadn't considered combining bracketing and focus stacking together. Your explanation of the process was clear, hopefully I can make it work.

    • @MarkDenneyPhoto
      @MarkDenneyPhoto  4 роки тому

      If you have any questions after you try it out just let me know!

  • @gordonneedham7014
    @gordonneedham7014 2 роки тому

    Just trying to follow the Bracketing /Focus Stacking.
    So you take 3 sets of Bracketed photos for a total of 9?
    Then do you Bracket one dark image from each group?
    Thereby Bracketing the over exposures together, and then the 3 under exposed photos and then the 3 correct photos from each of the 3 sets?
    Or do you Bracket the 1st 3 images (under/correct & over exposed) together, then go do the same to the 2nd set of Images, then the 3rd set ... resulting in 3 Bracketed Images?
    Then Focus Stack those 3 Bracketed images.
    Just to clarify the sequence, because I must have done something wrong.
    Thanks
    Gordon

  • @nialoconnellphotography
    @nialoconnellphotography 4 роки тому +5

    Don't know if I've missed the answer but could you take one focus point and bracket that, then move to the next point and bracket. Do your exposure blending first then focus stack you 3 exposure blended shots? Cheers and great video

    • @AlexArmitage
      @AlexArmitage 4 роки тому

      Obviously I'm not Mark so I hope my answer is helpful. My workflow in the field is bracketing every shot I take, so I take 3 exposures for every focus point like you suggested. However you can't exposure blend and then focus stack because you'll never blend the images the same way. It makes a lot more sense workflow wise to stack your exposures and then blend them together. Hope that helps

    • @nialoconnellphotography
      @nialoconnellphotography 4 роки тому +2

      @@AlexArmitage wow that great Alex and thanks for the reply. Love your work too 👍👍

    • @MarkDenneyPhoto
      @MarkDenneyPhoto  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks so much Nial - glad you enjoyed it! Absolutely! The most important thing is that you capture all the exposures needed for your exposure bracket for each focus point to be used for the focus stack - the method in which you accomplish this isn’t super critical as long as you capture everything you need for the exposure blend and focus stack👍

  • @ronaldmoravec2692
    @ronaldmoravec2692 Рік тому

    I like the video so I will go ahead and write comment. When you go ahead and pick the focus points, do you go ahead and make the exposure right away? Or do you go ahead and just set it up. I like when you go ahead and process in LR. I am going to go ahead and try this out ASAP. Sounds redundant to me and my English teacher.

  • @andy_crane
    @andy_crane 4 роки тому

    Thank you for sharing. It's been really helpful and the taking a photo of your hand between stacks is a very good tip!

  • @stephenschmid492
    @stephenschmid492 4 роки тому

    Good one, Mark. Nice to be walked through the process.

  • @christopherbgriffith
    @christopherbgriffith 4 роки тому +1

    You've inspired me to go try this! I've done both types of bracketing, but never together. I like Fuji's implementation of focus bracketing - it's good for not accidentally getting too few shots. You could fairly easily set that up and run it three times with manually adjusted exposure. Thanks for sharing this technique!

  • @patrick.771
    @patrick.771 3 роки тому

    Thanks! Why don't you use the in-camera stacking feature? :)

  • @JeffStudley
    @JeffStudley 4 роки тому

    Honestly you had me at bookmark LOL that was brilliant. I've got an older Rebel T3 and it only does three brackets but if I get my exposure right and create different exposures in Affinity Photo and save as different file names THEN bring those files in I can easily do 5-7 brackets and avoid my cameras' limitation.

  • @cmichaelhaugh8517
    @cmichaelhaugh8517 3 роки тому

    Good video! I am puzzled however. Why not do the exposure bracketing first since most cameras will do this automatically without having to touch(move) the camera; then do three focus point sets using each bracketed set?

  • @bernardolorenaponte9896
    @bernardolorenaponte9896 4 роки тому

    Great video (as usual) Mark... pragmatic and clear! In this case it's about the process not about the pictureitself... we got that! Thank you!

  • @gersonfischer9771
    @gersonfischer9771 4 роки тому

    great video Mark, i used to do this photos with only three shot but i changed for more focal points. thanks

  • @robertking893
    @robertking893 4 роки тому

    Another great video Mark. Thanks for the great instruction!

  • @Wheeler6627
    @Wheeler6627 4 роки тому

    Thanks Mark, took a similar shot recently in the UK using F16 to try and achieve a sharp image. Might return and try this technique. Now I just need the right conditions.... More importantly I need to be able to find the area where the berries were as most bushes seemed to be devoid of them.

  • @KurtBaumanMobilePhotography
    @KurtBaumanMobilePhotography 3 роки тому +1

    That was an fantastic explanation and video on how to do this. I just recently learned how to bracket and focus stack and was then wondering can I do both on one image. Thanks for the info Mark!

  • @AndyCuthbert
    @AndyCuthbert 4 роки тому +1

    Great video. Very informative 👏🏻....and right there with you looking out the window wishing I just headed out instead of missing the light or great atmosphere.
    Again great stuff. Keep’em coming. 👏🏻

  • @fredrosenbaum8630
    @fredrosenbaum8630 4 роки тому +2

    That’s great with a touch screen focus. Mine doesn’t so I think I would do the 3 exposures first since I can auto bracket that.

  • @The_Daliban
    @The_Daliban 3 роки тому

    Thank you sooo much!
    This is amazing🎉🙏🏻

  • @shack109
    @shack109 4 роки тому

    Thank you for doing this video Mark. It answers the question I had a few videos ago.

  • @danielrao3120
    @danielrao3120 4 роки тому

    Full of information and really well explained. Has helped me understand the process. Many thanks.

  • @NORTRONGAMES
    @NORTRONGAMES 4 роки тому

    Wonderful video mark. Was looking for this

  • @dandavis3340
    @dandavis3340 4 роки тому

    I'll have to try this soon. Great video!!

  • @jamessharp1321
    @jamessharp1321 3 роки тому

    Hey Mark I'm a storm chaser some happens during the day and some at night. What do you suggest ISO setting for lighting?

  • @davidsavell5398
    @davidsavell5398 4 роки тому

    Great tutorial. wish you had shown the exposure blending part in PS....

  • @RichardBO9
    @RichardBO9 4 роки тому

    Very helpful video. Im curious if you find yourself exposure bracketing more with Fuji than when you used Sony? I had gotten away from bracketing mostly because I didn't bother to setup a tripod. I have always struggled with shadows shooting Fuji. This video has given me a couple theory's to test. THANKS!

  • @akkarparkiamopas3401
    @akkarparkiamopas3401 4 роки тому

    Hi Mark,
    We can do this process in Landscape Photography as well, right?
    Thanks

  • @sharonfanning8079
    @sharonfanning8079 4 роки тому

    Thank you for sharing your expert knowledge in photography. My husband and I also teach photography at a local college. One of the ways we teach is to show our students a UA-cam like yours. We then do the process in class so we're sure they know how to do it and they have the UA-cam to reference in the future. We are interested in your backpack. We like the way it opens on the side that faces your back. Could you please give us the make and model of it. Thanks in advance.

  • @AR-vf7vg
    @AR-vf7vg 3 роки тому

    Can you combine all this with progressivally introduce a variable sunshade-hood from far behind the camera until all the way right up front eventually cover the front lens from strayight and possible specs.. ? 😅
    (shockingly missing, otherwise for me most generous, clear and pleasing tutorial. Thanks ! ! !

  • @patelatmiya27
    @patelatmiya27 4 роки тому +1

    Thank You ... Thank You... Thank You... so much for this informative tutorial , I am so happy that you made a video on this 🤩

  • @TheAGATODEMON
    @TheAGATODEMON 4 роки тому

    Hey Mark, I use an XT3 as well and I think the in camera bracketing and focus stacking modes are absolutely fantastic, you should check them out! It saves some time and avoids having to touch the camera and probably moving it.

    • @MarkDenneyPhoto
      @MarkDenneyPhoto  4 роки тому +1

      They do work pretty well, but I find I usually like to control exactly where the focus points are in most scenarios.

    • @TheAGATODEMON
      @TheAGATODEMON 4 роки тому

      @@MarkDenneyPhoto I get it, it is nice to be able to control everything, that way we are the only guilty ones if something goes wrong lol. Greetings form Mexico!

  • @wimscheenen3535
    @wimscheenen3535 4 роки тому

    Love your outdoor videos. And great explanation of combined focus and exposure stacking.

  • @kushla
    @kushla 4 роки тому

    I think what also people could have meant was if that's ok to bracket and focus stack different parts of the scene which are in different proximity and tone. E.g. when you bracket for the bright sky and focus on it, then bracket for the foreground and change the focus again. Will the blended image suffer from possible quality loss on tone bracketing edges which now would be in different focus?

  • @tanweercaa
    @tanweercaa 4 роки тому +2

    Thanks a lot Mark, it's really something that almost every photography lover needs to know about, nice job.

  • @jackielarena-lacayo9884
    @jackielarena-lacayo9884 4 роки тому

    That was a whole lot of good information Mark! Wow 🤩.
    Now to put it into practice- thanks for sharing your wealth of knowledge!

  • @tamasisgupta5315
    @tamasisgupta5315 4 роки тому

    Awesome work Mark, would help me a lot in future.. thanks

  • @ZeeKay80
    @ZeeKay80 3 роки тому

    I’m curious why you didn’t use AEB feature in the camera? It automates the three / five exposures

  • @rosssayer6524
    @rosssayer6524 4 роки тому

    Really valuable information Mark, appreciate the time and effort you put into these videos to help the beginner.
    Thank you.

    • @MarkDenneyPhoto
      @MarkDenneyPhoto  4 роки тому

      Glad to do it Ross and a big thanks for checking it out!

  • @GDMariano18
    @GDMariano18 3 роки тому

    Hi Mark, I loved this tutorial and I have one question: what's the difference between this and edit the color at the end?

  • @Sir-IKON
    @Sir-IKON 3 роки тому

    so should I be using spot, zone or 1-point focus?

  • @timothylabrecque8589
    @timothylabrecque8589 4 роки тому

    It was good to see the process play out, i focus stack, and exposure bracket but have yet to combine the two techniques. Will feel a little more confident giving it a go now. Thanks mark !

  • @Kingkongtravel
    @Kingkongtravel 4 роки тому

    Keep it up mark !

  • @drewgarrison185
    @drewgarrison185 4 роки тому

    Really good stuff. Thanks for this Mark!

  • @robertleeimages
    @robertleeimages 2 роки тому

    Well that's an easier way than my first time doing it, I did a focus stack a couple of days ago of a sunset. But i did the exposure bracketed set of images first and then did each focus image at the same exposures of the bracketed sequence, then combined them but i was pretty happy with the outcome but I'll be doing it this way from now on

  • @sarahbatsford4791
    @sarahbatsford4791 4 роки тому

    Great video thank you.

  • @geraldjohnson482
    @geraldjohnson482 4 роки тому

    Thanks Mark

  • @TheESC1212
    @TheESC1212 4 роки тому

    This is what I’ve been missing!! Great video and very informative! Thank you Mark!

  • @Doomslight.
    @Doomslight. Рік тому

    Do you need to edit each focus bracket photo before you add it to photoshop? Or can you do it later, i saw you did it but i think although i dont have so much experience. That it would be better to focus stack every photo in each exposure then do the final edit on the merged photo when everything is done. Am i wrong for this thought?

  • @aaronsuek
    @aaronsuek 3 роки тому +1

    Is there any substantial benefit in focus stacking prior to exposure/HDR stacking, or do they effectively end up with the same results if they're interchanged in the workflow?