Eh I prefer Spider-Man battling Kraven if he’s in the Symbiote and aggressive instead of Sandman mainly because Sandman seems to be more sympathetic while Kraven is all well looking for a tough battle that’s why I think Kraven should have appeared in Spider-Man 3 instead of Sandman
It still catches me off guard just how night-and-day Peter’s personality is when it comes to the black suit. Without it, he’s as you’d expect, understanding, sympathetic, optimistic, and determined. But with the black suit, he’s just straight up cold.
I like to think the black suit makes him not evil but rather ruthless. It shows him that his way isn’t working and that he needs to up his game if he really wants to stop these villains and Kraven especially
@AdrianHernandez-ok6mz That's a big theme I like to see. It's also echoed with Yuris' plot with The Flame. Yes, Yuri killing again when she did before was wrong. But she outright lays it out to him after you fight her in the hospital: "I'd rather lose sleep at night over the one I murdered over the dozens I could've saved." At that point in the story at least, Kraven had killed Shocker, Scorpion,Vulture, almost Sandman, almost Tombstone, and almost The Lizard. Don't say if he does Lizard I'm only at the part at the moment where the cure is made, but Kraven is SERIOUS. Peter's half measures as Yuri puts it won't work. Kraven needs to die. So does The Flame.
Yuri out here reminding us that he is also the voice of Sasuke Uchiha lmao I actually completed the bases during the Symbiote Spider-Man phase, but I was wearing the Superior Spider-Man costume, and the dialogue Symbiote Peter had was honestly pretty fitting for Superior too
I used the Red Suit after removing the symbiote in the post-game. However, regardless of whether Peter had the Red or Black suit (during the main story before facing off Miles), I can see that Kraven is truly uncaring. He might have met his end with honor, but his attitude and showing disregard to his family would earn him a ticket to hell.
He wanted to be killed by someone else, its not like he wanted to prove himself best and when facing a better he went "well, so is life... Youre the best", nor did he sacrificed himself for a cause or someone. He got what he wanted and only cared about that, there is no honor in that Just because you die fighting doesnt mean you die with honor, specially when that is your goal
@@RustedBuddy5192 i was going to try it out, but for some reason it just locked all other missions for me and it forced me to go to harry after i was done with the hunter bases.
he says nothing. All of the other side missions doesn't have special dialogue for black suit peter. In fact even blinds and bases don't have special dialogue, its only that post mission phone call that have difference @@RustedBuddy5192
If you complete the carnage mission after the wraith fight, The dialogue he says post mission when wearing the symbiote suit. He uses a different tone compared to when you arent wearing it. Its very subtle but its there.
That's why I love having Pete wait until after the Lizard fight to fight Wraith as once he has the Black Suit, he's solely focused on trying to help Harry get it back at that point. It's until after Lizard, he's wanting to do more with it. I do a bunch of side stuff anyway before Act 2 reaches it's climax so it would fit.
This is one of the reasons this symbiote adaptation works so damn well. Insomniac knew exactly how to depict the symbiote storyline and did it perfectly.
Those were cool bt why give us that agressive dialogue only on the post mission phone call while in the mission peter is talking like normal? They just gave us bully lowenthal dialogue on free roam crimes, those post bases phone calls and thats it.. none of side content got the agressive lines, that kind of breaks immersion for me
@@youngfargo8099 not necessarily, it was sony who had rushed them. we know insomniac didn't rush it because if it were up to them, they would've taken a lot longer and cooked as much, if not even more, as they did on the first game
@@ryan-ch6fp what are you talking about. the plot was terrible plus they had a 300 mill budget. they purposely made the game shorter and tripled down on Mj and the pointless DNA puzzles lmfaooo. The Emf missions were either drone gameplay or puzzles. The first game did the oscorp stations wayyyy better but sequel couldn’t.. even though it was a straight copy paste???? You have so many pointless walking around as a human segments that it’s actually pathetic. Venom was 1/4th of the game and you literally had the black suit for maybe 4 missions lmfao. i could literally go on and on bro don’t make me.
@@youngfargo8099 dude? what's with the aggression? let me go through each of these points: -the $300 million budget was not alone on production of the video game, yes it's a huge number but you can't expect all that to go into the game itself -they did not 'purposely make the game shorter', as I said, sony rushed them for around the holiday release to boost the PlayStation 5 sales -puzzles were in the first game too. everyone complained about them, yet now suddenly because they've been dumbed down for everyone, everyone turns on them? make it make sense -this game had way less of the pointless walking around 💀 the MJ sections were improved on much better rather than sneak around and stuff -venom was a 1/4th game, you're right, the final part of the game was rushed... almost as if you're continuing to prove my point that sony had rushed insomniac -yes, you had the black suit for only a few missions, once again proving that the game was rushed by sony 😭 you can't make all of these points like that so aggressively, quite unnecessarily aggressive I might add considering I kept my comment respectful, and then proceed to just ignore my point that sony rushed them (WHICH THEY QUITE LITERALLY DID) if you don't believe that they did, here's a link: comicbook.com/gaming/news/marvels-spiderman-2-heated-development-ps5-playstation/ but if you're too narrow-minded to read it, then let me break it down for you: insomniac could not achieve the desired quality level for the latter part of the game's story by October, leading to a 'heated' conversation with sony producers. this resulted in significant content cuts and reworking of the story to meet deadlines. this is also proven with the cut venomized miles voice lines, and just cut venom voice lines in general. don't go all aggressive on people if you aren't even bothered to do the research for it
For some reason, Peter doesn’t say the aggressive line when the symbiote suit is on him. I did them post game so am I supposed to do them only during the story mode to get the lines?
@@excavalon1366 She definitely died because Peter, and Genki, mention that they were getting ready for them to come and they imply that they don't have to worry about anyone coming. However, they still have Chameleon to worry about. Also, the sister already admitted that everyone else was dead and Kraven tells her good luck making it to America and then she is shot.
well maybe after that phone call she could still be alive but i doubt insomniac will use kraven's daughter for anything. Kraven already got the spotlight for a game now they will move on they doesn't seem to care about getting rid of classsic villains @@ereyes6718
Symbiote dialogue is on point, Ganke is so annoying. such a tacked on, nothing character. If they wanted a technie, I'd even settle for Forge or Rocket Racer. Forge, an X-Man, underrated one, techie, in this game? woulda been fucking awesome. And a good way to help set up the X game i think they tryna make anyway
Ganke's... just fine. But that would be nice too since an X-Men is gonna be made judging from the leaks. Gonna be WAYS off, but it'd be nice to see what different characters Insomniac will try. Since they're bringing Cindy Moon instead of Gwen too which is refreshing to see.
Good Peter: "Shoot. More Kravinoffs"
Bad Peter: *"Hands will be thrown."*
“This family isn’t worth your sympathy”
*“Good Riddance” 💀*
Damn Peter
Me: “He said the thing! 🫵😮”
LETS GO!!!!!!!!!!! ANOTHER BULLY MAGUIRE REFERENCE!!!!!!!!!……..too much?
Good riddance is insane. Just like in Spiderman 3 when he "killed" Sandman.
He didn’t kill sandman in spider man 3
@@juneito1that’s why he said “killed”
Right 😂
@@juneito1oh brother…
Eh I prefer Spider-Man battling Kraven if he’s in the Symbiote and aggressive instead of Sandman mainly because Sandman seems to be more sympathetic while Kraven is all well looking for a tough battle that’s why I think Kraven should have appeared in Spider-Man 3 instead of Sandman
4:08 *"Good Riddance"*
He finally said it 😀
It still catches me off guard just how night-and-day Peter’s personality is when it comes to the black suit. Without it, he’s as you’d expect, understanding, sympathetic, optimistic, and determined. But with the black suit, he’s just straight up cold.
I like to think the black suit makes him not evil but rather ruthless. It shows him that his way isn’t working and that he needs to up his game if he really wants to stop these villains and Kraven especially
@AdrianHernandez-ok6mz That's a big theme I like to see. It's also echoed with Yuris' plot with The Flame. Yes, Yuri killing again when she did before was wrong. But she outright lays it out to him after you fight her in the hospital: "I'd rather lose sleep at night over the one I murdered over the dozens I could've saved." At that point in the story at least, Kraven had killed Shocker, Scorpion,Vulture, almost Sandman, almost Tombstone, and almost The Lizard. Don't say if he does Lizard I'm only at the part at the moment where the cure is made, but Kraven is SERIOUS. Peter's half measures as Yuri puts it won't work. Kraven needs to die. So does The Flame.
Yuri out here reminding us that he is also the voice of Sasuke Uchiha lmao
I actually completed the bases during the Symbiote Spider-Man phase, but I was wearing the Superior Spider-Man costume, and the dialogue Symbiote Peter had was honestly pretty fitting for Superior too
Same here dude
That Superior suit goes HARD. And thats all i heard when he went edgy.
Bad Pete sounds like he's irritated because of the things Ganke is saying, thinking he's "funny"
"good riddance"
HE SAID IT,HE SAID THE THING!!!!
What's worse is that i'm both Peter's with what Kraven has done in the insomniacverse
Sick pfp
Godziller
Wdym
Where’s Godzilla, is he alright
This shows that not only symbiote peter is aggressive he also only cares about achieving his goals and will destroy anyone who gets in his way
That’s what we all wanted from Insomniac and they delivered
I used the Red Suit after removing the symbiote in the post-game.
However, regardless of whether Peter had the Red or Black suit (during the main story before facing off Miles), I can see that Kraven is truly uncaring. He might have met his end with honor, but his attitude and showing disregard to his family would earn him a ticket to hell.
He has no honor, a monster just killed another monster
He wanted to be killed by someone else, its not like he wanted to prove himself best and when facing a better he went "well, so is life... Youre the best", nor did he sacrificed himself for a cause or someone. He got what he wanted and only cared about that, there is no honor in that
Just because you die fighting doesnt mean you die with honor, specially when that is your goal
He really said “F them kids”
"Look at Little Kraven Jr, gonna cry?"
What’s great about the bases is that they show us that Kraven’s entire family were fucking insane. They all killed each other 😭.
Except for one… he didn’t deserve this fate.
Do you think the daughter survived?
@@Jokester1990-ri3jlwell kraven still has a brother
@@sgtroach1510 The chameleon
@@Jokester1990-ri3jlNedrocci. Poor bastard; just wanted to be a family. Took after his mother more, it seems…
i'm so glad i did all of these before taking the symbiote off
Made sense to do it with the black suit, but like all at once while pissed.
Huh..... wonder what he says about Chameleon.
@@RustedBuddy5192 i was going to try it out, but for some reason it just locked all other missions for me and it forced me to go to harry after i was done with the hunter bases.
he says nothing. All of the other side missions doesn't have special dialogue for black suit peter. In fact even blinds and bases don't have special dialogue, its only that post mission phone call that have difference @@RustedBuddy5192
@@whatidk77I did the Chameleon mission as symbiote Pete, his cold personality returned to his happy personality
4:08
"HE SAID THE LINE!!!"
😂😂😂
Yuri:did one of my lines made a reference that make people know another reference?
Owner:yep. Thanks tobey.
Tobey:your welcome.
If you complete the carnage mission after the wraith fight, The dialogue he says post mission when wearing the symbiote suit. He uses a different tone compared to when you arent wearing it. Its very subtle but its there.
That's why I love having Pete wait until after the Lizard fight to fight Wraith as once he has the Black Suit, he's solely focused on trying to help Harry get it back at that point. It's until after Lizard, he's wanting to do more with it. I do a bunch of side stuff anyway before Act 2 reaches it's climax so it would fit.
This is one of the reasons this symbiote adaptation works so damn well. Insomniac knew exactly how to depict the symbiote storyline and did it perfectly.
Ah, I wish I had seen these before finishing the game and doing them after the Symbiote section. Really great acting from Yuri.
Person: *Dies*
"Rip"
When you find out they draw pictures of spider man's ass: 4:08
"Oh my god.. his entire family... all dead."
"Good riddance."
DAAAAYYYYYUUUMMMM bro really became Bully Maguire here.
You forgot about before kraven dies theres a different dialog at the end as normal peter
0:49-1:44-2:49-4:04
0:36-1:33-2:33-3:48
3:48 Sounds like a certain community😳
I played this game in French so their accents were lost in translation
Those were cool bt why give us that agressive dialogue only on the post mission phone call while in the mission peter is talking like normal? They just gave us bully lowenthal dialogue on free roam crimes, those post bases phone calls and thats it.. none of side content got the agressive lines, that kind of breaks immersion for me
because they rushed the game and sold it for retail price duh
Blame sony@@youngfargo8099
@@youngfargo8099 not necessarily, it was sony who had rushed them. we know insomniac didn't rush it because if it were up to them, they would've taken a lot longer and cooked as much, if not even more, as they did on the first game
@@ryan-ch6fp what are you talking about. the plot was terrible plus they had a 300 mill budget. they purposely made the game shorter and tripled down on Mj and the pointless DNA puzzles lmfaooo. The Emf missions were either drone gameplay or puzzles. The first game did the oscorp stations wayyyy better but sequel couldn’t.. even though it was a straight copy paste???? You have so many pointless walking around as a human segments that it’s actually pathetic. Venom was 1/4th of the game and you literally had the black suit for maybe 4 missions lmfao. i could literally go on and on bro don’t make me.
@@youngfargo8099 dude? what's with the aggression? let me go through each of these points:
-the $300 million budget was not alone on production of the video game, yes it's a huge number but you can't expect all that to go into the game itself
-they did not 'purposely make the game shorter', as I said, sony rushed them for around the holiday release to boost the PlayStation 5 sales
-puzzles were in the first game too. everyone complained about them, yet now suddenly because they've been dumbed down for everyone, everyone turns on them? make it make sense
-this game had way less of the pointless walking around 💀 the MJ sections were improved on much better rather than sneak around and stuff
-venom was a 1/4th game, you're right, the final part of the game was rushed... almost as if you're continuing to prove my point that sony had rushed insomniac
-yes, you had the black suit for only a few missions, once again proving that the game was rushed by sony 😭
you can't make all of these points like that so aggressively, quite unnecessarily aggressive I might add considering I kept my comment respectful, and then proceed to just ignore my point that sony rushed them (WHICH THEY QUITE LITERALLY DID)
if you don't believe that they did, here's a link: comicbook.com/gaming/news/marvels-spiderman-2-heated-development-ps5-playstation/
but if you're too narrow-minded to read it, then let me break it down for you: insomniac could not achieve the desired quality level for the latter part of the game's story by October, leading to a 'heated' conversation with sony producers. this resulted in significant content cuts and reworking of the story to meet deadlines. this is also proven with the cut venomized miles voice lines, and just cut venom voice lines in general.
don't go all aggressive on people if you aren't even bothered to do the research for it
Here's some shortcuts so you don't have to watch the whole thing
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Black suit
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“Good riddance” holy shit
I love good peter
For some reason, Peter doesn’t say the aggressive line when the symbiote suit is on him. I did them post game so am I supposed to do them only during the story mode to get the lines?
Yes
I would’ve liked more of this. I didn’t like hearing him all giddy in the black suit
HE SAID THE THING
This is what I WANTED TO SEE MORE. Insomniac really fumbled when it comes to the Black Suit attitude. He just becomes Sasuke so quickly
Very Nice and have a wonderful day and God bless you all
I hope they make it so you can change the dialogue
3 months ago 😂
Did his daughter die? that wasn't clear
Yes, she was shot.
@@ereyes6718I’m not sure. Though I think she shot one of her siblings, possibly Vladimir. It’s implied that she murdered her mother and Nedrocci.
@@excavalon1366 She definitely died because Peter, and Genki, mention that they were getting ready for them to come and they imply that they don't have to worry about anyone coming. However, they still have Chameleon to worry about.
Also, the sister already admitted that everyone else was dead and Kraven tells her good luck making it to America and then she is shot.
well maybe after that phone call she could still be alive but i doubt insomniac will use kraven's daughter for anything. Kraven already got the spotlight for a game now they will move on they doesn't seem to care about getting rid of classsic villains @@ereyes6718
Sympi Spider is not about sympathy.😅
This doesn't work on ng+ for some reason, also the symbiote finishers don't work, new game plus is kinda broken ngl
😮 that line in spiderman 3 good riddance was very scary 💀 like dang!
So…venom suit Spider-Man is Sasuke Uchiha
Symbiote dialogue is on point, Ganke is so annoying. such a tacked on, nothing character. If they wanted a technie, I'd even settle for Forge or Rocket Racer. Forge, an X-Man, underrated one, techie, in this game? woulda been fucking awesome.
And a good way to help set up the X game i think they tryna make anyway
Ganke's... just fine. But that would be nice too since an X-Men is gonna be made judging from the leaks. Gonna be WAYS off, but it'd be nice to see what different characters Insomniac will try. Since they're bringing Cindy Moon instead of Gwen too which is refreshing to see.
At what mission is the max aggression for Peter to be in
I'd say it's best straight after the Lizard mission. It's nighttime, so it's perfectly dark for it too.
black suit was just saying what i was thinking
HE SAID THE THING