I'm overly impressed at his ability to pronounce towns and names. Maybe it is me just being a dumb American and not able to pronounce names/places from different nationalities.
If the pace was high on the lead up to the Huy, it'd make a bit more sense as to why no one attacked but it's clear when the second group catches back up, that the front group was going pretty slow. It's a funny thing, cycling from an outsiders perspective is an all or nothing sport; you are either first or last. When you watch some of these races, you realize riders and teams actually care a lot about minor places. Some of them are so afraid of not getting anything, that they ride in a way not conducive to winning. I watch a lot of cycling and I still don't get this mindset and I think it's part of the reason people like riders like Pog, WVA, and MvDP; they race to win, second or third doesn't mean anything to them. Vollering's definitely got some pointers from Anna van der Breggen on how to ride the Huy because that ascent looked very similar to what she used to do. The biggest key with that climb is being calm and not panicking. Lippert panicked and closed the gap too fast which probably cost her a bit at the end, whereas Vollering kept cool and had a steady pace even when Lippert and Niewiadoma were right on her wheel.
Let's be honest, anybody who attacks 3 km before the mur de Huy won't finish in the top 10. You can maybe make Vollering lose but you will certainly not win.
After seeing Lippert on Cauberg I thought she would have a good chance today. She should have been on Vollering's wheel but at least she didn't go to early this time.
Daryl Impey said once on his channel that they call those kind of road dividers "form-fuckers". Must be so frustrating to have your race (and potentially season) ended by something like that. Top video as always, Lanterne.
It definitely seems like she was in better form last year. Her best result in the big spring races this year is fourth in Strade whereas last year by this time she had won Omloop, 2nd in Strade, 2nd in Flanders, 4th in Amstel, 2nd in Fleche, and she won Leige. She hasn't looked great this year (by AVV standards) and it probably has to do with what you said of her trying to peak for TdFF.
She was far better last year. She rides the exact same program as last year too except no Dwars door Vlaanderen this year. The difference is the Vuelta starts May 1st this year, so no 2 months long break between the classics and the Grand Tours for her.
Yeah, unfortunately, seeing what happened both here and in Paris-Roubaix, it seems like they are not willing to sacrifice for a teammate, which is unfortunate. I love these women, know all their names, follow their races, have watch some of them grow from CX to the road, but lastly I've noticed kind of a lack of an ultimate team work, which is the total sacrifice: leave everything there for your team until you can't barely pedal your bike, just to get a chance for victory. WIth the Vuelta beginning in May and the Giro Donne and TdFF so close together, I want to think some of them would leave that everything there on those races.
If they are showing a lack of team work, perhaps it's the team leader or coach that should also get some criticism. These riders are very young and I imagine want to do well. Why don't they have someone going over tactics and strategy with them?
AVV looks a long way from the rider who was almost unbeatable last year and the other riders have really elevated their games... It's bizarre watching her get caught and dropped on the climbs... Guess she's waiting for the longer climbs ion the tours but I think Vollering and co may surprise her this time round.
On Sunday you were saying that Vollering did not look that great on the climbs,and that her attack was not particularly strong either ( already did not agree then). You did not call her the outright favorite then. Now you are saying that all the other teams should have based their whole race plan on not entering the final climb together with her. But your opinion prior to the race suggests otherwise and there were also no signals during this race to suggest that Vollering would AVDB everyone on the final Mur. The reality is that there were about four other riders in that group that had a valid reason to assume that they could beat all the others on that final climb. So no reason for their teams to attack and create chaos. Now if they take Vollering to the final climb on Sunday again after todays showing, than you could justifiably make this video IMO, Also Vollerings tactics on the penultimate climb were very reasonable given what she knew. First of all she knew that her helpers were completely cooked by previous work and she would probably be isolated after that climb if anyone attacked. And she knew she was very strong and could keep this pace without hurting her legs too much, while hurting the legs of most of the others. Without her pacing there could have been chaos or a big group after that climb, she would probably still be isolated, and that would not have made the job easier in any way. I think it was a smart move by her, probably the idea coming from AVDB in the car behind. You are often right when pointing out tactical mistakes by the teams in the women’s peloton, but in my opinion you are wrong to make such a big thing out of this and I think that you are actually the one that is wrong here and just having your 20/20 hindsight glasses on😉.
If there was a situation closer to the finish like when van Anrooij attacked, she or someone else would have tried to attack, but if you are so close to the Mur de Huy, it's almost impossible to get away from the strongest rider in the race with that finish.
that is the case if they are teammates to close it down. If the other teams don't do anything(they shouldn't do anything). Vollering looses a lot compared to the other favorites or you can take a huge gab in those couple kilometers
@@TheChessRunner First of all it is only 2,5km and it will be the weaker riders who attack. So if Vollering stays calm and just paces a little bit she will still be fresh enough to win. Secondly Vollering was not the big all out favorite for this race so no reason for other teams to base their tactics only on her.
@@rulifaller8474 Strade Bianche win Dwars door Vlaanderen win De Ronde 2nd (behind teammate) Brabantse Pijl 2nd Amstel win Pray tell, if not her, then who was the big all out favourite?
It was harder to attack Pog because his team were stronger than Vollerings. But I do agree it made less sense to go to the final climb with him than to go to the final climb with Vollering. Going into the final Mur everyone knew Pog would win. Going into the final Mur with Vollering could be considered reasonable for a number of riders.
@@MRDTBOSS Flèche Wallone 2023. Teams worked with UAE all day long to control the race even though they knew they had no chance against Pogaçar in Huy. And what attacks did you see? A Quick Step launching at 30km from the finish? That's literally one attack.
Probably gonna get roasted for saying this but i find tactically womens cycling is pretty below par for professional sport, ( and the title of this video even backs up what im saying ) and then when u have the winner dolled up in make up just makes me cringe even more
Tbh this just sounds like you hate womens cycling, your take has nothing to do with the womens races. Shit tactics are present in mens cycling all the time (probably more so) Literally last week other riders worked with pogi at AGR and happens literally all the time, riders like Kung and Ganna didn’t even try to attack Mvdp or Wva at roubaix despite having 0 chance of winning otherwise (Ganna literally brought back another rider for the favourites instead of making them work).
@@zekefindlay7525 if you want to interpret it that way thats your choice, but when there is at least 2 riders from 2 seperate teams and they still didnt even TRY to attack vollering who was isolated on her own thats pretty poor tatctics,
Why not just show the the junior boys like 17 years olds. Women's cycling is literally the most boring sport in the world. At least the junior men attack and go for it! They also don't just roll around at 35km/h seriously this so zzzzzz.
I've commented on your other videos that your analysis is better than watching the actual race. Thank you.
Wish he would be able to do them for every race
I'm overly impressed at his ability to pronounce towns and names. Maybe it is me just being a dumb American and not able to pronounce names/places from different nationalities.
Lippert with her best Mauri Vansevenant impression
I'm laughing so hard at 02.00 when you say in dutch: 'waar is sd workx?' It's hilarious.
If the pace was high on the lead up to the Huy, it'd make a bit more sense as to why no one attacked but it's clear when the second group catches back up, that the front group was going pretty slow. It's a funny thing, cycling from an outsiders perspective is an all or nothing sport; you are either first or last. When you watch some of these races, you realize riders and teams actually care a lot about minor places. Some of them are so afraid of not getting anything, that they ride in a way not conducive to winning. I watch a lot of cycling and I still don't get this mindset and I think it's part of the reason people like riders like Pog, WVA, and MvDP; they race to win, second or third doesn't mean anything to them.
Vollering's definitely got some pointers from Anna van der Breggen on how to ride the Huy because that ascent looked very similar to what she used to do. The biggest key with that climb is being calm and not panicking. Lippert panicked and closed the gap too fast which probably cost her a bit at the end, whereas Vollering kept cool and had a steady pace even when Lippert and Niewiadoma were right on her wheel.
Let's be honest, anybody who attacks 3 km before the mur de Huy won't finish in the top 10. You can maybe make Vollering lose but you will certainly not win.
damn this was up quick
Oh you could tell LR had somethin to SAY.
After seeing Lippert on Cauberg I thought she would have a good chance today. She should have been on Vollering's wheel but at least she didn't go to early this time.
Daryl Impey said once on his channel that they call those kind of road dividers "form-fuckers". Must be so frustrating to have your race (and potentially season) ended by something like that.
Top video as always, Lanterne.
Amazing, this is like Ian Stannard winning against 3x Quickstep, except it's Vollering vs all of G1
HAHAH that was the best race ever. Wolf Pack? ... Fanny Pack.
My thoughts exactly, sometimes the ladies race great, sometimes very strangely. Great analysis as always lanterne
🤔Was AVV in dominant form at this point last year? I don’t remember, and am thinking that maybe she’s trying to time it for TdFF.
It definitely seems like she was in better form last year. Her best result in the big spring races this year is fourth in Strade whereas last year by this time she had won Omloop, 2nd in Strade, 2nd in Flanders, 4th in Amstel, 2nd in Fleche, and she won Leige. She hasn't looked great this year (by AVV standards) and it probably has to do with what you said of her trying to peak for TdFF.
She was far better last year. She rides the exact same program as last year too except no Dwars door Vlaanderen this year.
The difference is the Vuelta starts May 1st this year, so no 2 months long break between the classics and the Grand Tours for her.
Muzic underrated coming back from the shadow realm to 5th place, would've podiumed if well positioned
Vollering looked super strong!
Yeah, unfortunately, seeing what happened both here and in Paris-Roubaix, it seems like they are not willing to sacrifice for a teammate, which is unfortunate. I love these women, know all their names, follow their races, have watch some of them grow from CX to the road, but lastly I've noticed kind of a lack of an ultimate team work, which is the total sacrifice: leave everything there for your team until you can't barely pedal your bike, just to get a chance for victory. WIth the Vuelta beginning in May and the Giro Donne and TdFF so close together, I want to think some of them would leave that everything there on those races.
If they are showing a lack of team work, perhaps it's the team leader or coach that should also get some criticism. These riders are very young and I imagine want to do well. Why don't they have someone going over tactics and strategy with them?
Realini is a future GT winner. Take it to the bank
Nice that they let Realini beat Longo Borghini this time.
Is it me or does Gaia Realini look like she is riding a bike way too large for her? I know she is only 4' 11" but her bike looks massive.
She's already on a XXXXXXS, next size would be a kid's bike!
She should ride a 650b bike but mechanic changes are a PITA, everyone is riding 700c
yeah she does but it's already the smallest :D she also rides a setback seatpost turned 180° looks super weird :D
Cho cho Vollering 🚂
AVV looks a long way from the rider who was almost unbeatable last year and the other riders have really elevated their games... It's bizarre watching her get caught and dropped on the climbs... Guess she's waiting for the longer climbs ion the tours but I think Vollering and co may surprise her this time round.
On Sunday you were saying that Vollering did not look that great on the climbs,and that her attack was not particularly strong either ( already did not agree then). You did not call her the outright favorite then. Now you are saying that all the other teams should have based their whole race plan on not entering the final climb together with her. But your opinion prior to the race suggests otherwise and there were also no signals during this race to suggest that Vollering would AVDB everyone on the final Mur.
The reality is that there were about four other riders in that group that had a valid reason to assume that they could beat all the others on that final climb. So no reason for their teams to attack and create chaos.
Now if they take Vollering to the final climb on Sunday again after todays showing, than you could justifiably make this video IMO,
Also Vollerings tactics on the penultimate climb were very reasonable given what she knew. First of all she knew that her helpers were completely cooked by previous work and she would probably be isolated after that climb if anyone attacked. And she knew she was very strong and could keep this pace without hurting her legs too much, while hurting the legs of most of the others. Without her pacing there could have been chaos or a big group after that climb, she would probably still be isolated, and that would not have made the job easier in any way. I think it was a smart move by her, probably the idea coming from AVDB in the car behind.
You are often right when pointing out tactical mistakes by the teams in the women’s peloton, but in my opinion you are wrong to make such a big thing out of this and I think that you are actually the one that is wrong here and just having your 20/20 hindsight glasses on😉.
Is it just me or did you pause before saying that Spratt needed a buddy?
She was too strong totally in control
If there was a situation closer to the finish like when van Anrooij attacked, she or someone else would have tried to attack, but if you are so close to the Mur de Huy, it's almost impossible to get away from the strongest rider in the race with that finish.
Completely agree, there is less than 3km of flat before the Mur.
that is the case if they are teammates to close it down. If the other teams don't do anything(they shouldn't do anything). Vollering looses a lot compared to the other favorites or you can take a huge gab in those couple kilometers
@@TheChessRunner First of all it is only 2,5km and it will be the weaker riders who attack. So if Vollering stays calm and just paces a little bit she will still be fresh enough to win. Secondly Vollering was not the big all out favorite for this race so no reason for other teams to base their tactics only on her.
@@rulifaller8474 Strade Bianche win
Dwars door Vlaanderen win
De Ronde 2nd (behind teammate)
Brabantse Pijl 2nd
Amstel win
Pray tell, if not her, then who was the big all out favourite?
Well, they can’t all be classics. Strong day for Vol.
They couldn't i guess?
Title: "I cannot believe no one attacked Demi"
First 4 minutes: "everyone's attacking Demi!!"
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if nobody attacked it's probably because they were all gassed
came too short... hah I'm keeping that!
Where's the content been lately?
He can only use the footage of ASO races.
Realini's socks are for sure too high!
Anyone who would have attacked in the last 5 K would have blown up and finished outside the top 30.
That derailer Was more than Cupoot.
I'm more surprised no one attacked Pogaçar
What race were you watching?
It was harder to attack Pog because his team were stronger than Vollerings. But I do agree it made less sense to go to the final climb with him than to go to the final climb with Vollering. Going into the final Mur everyone knew Pog would win. Going into the final Mur with Vollering could be considered reasonable for a number of riders.
@@MRDTBOSS Flèche Wallone 2023. Teams worked with UAE all day long to control the race even though they knew they had no chance against Pogaçar in Huy. And what attacks did you see? A Quick Step launching at 30km from the finish? That's literally one attack.
Questionable team tactics.......... With 3 teams having 2 riders in the group they should have at least tried to work Vollering over...?!
EPO
Probably gonna get roasted for saying this but i find tactically womens cycling is pretty below par for professional sport, ( and the title of this video even backs up what im saying ) and then when u have the winner dolled up in make up just makes me cringe even more
Tbh this just sounds like you hate womens cycling, your take has nothing to do with the womens races. Shit tactics are present in mens cycling all the time (probably more so) Literally last week other riders worked with pogi at AGR and happens literally all the time, riders like Kung and Ganna didn’t even try to attack Mvdp or Wva at roubaix despite having 0 chance of winning otherwise (Ganna literally brought back another rider for the favourites instead of making them work).
@@zekefindlay7525 if you want to interpret it that way thats your choice, but when there is at least 2 riders from 2 seperate teams and they still didnt even TRY to attack vollering who was isolated on her own thats pretty poor tatctics,
Why not just show the the junior boys like 17 years olds. Women's cycling is literally the most boring sport in the world. At least the junior men attack and go for it! They also don't just roll around at 35km/h seriously this so zzzzzz.
Because most of them don't understand cycling
What do expect from women?
17 out of 24 DS were men, all on the losing teams. What do you expect from men?
@@andrasszabo1570 yawn yawn woke boke you can't take a joke, cancel humour, cancel fun, cancel life
Humour has to be funny, this is just sexist. get a life fr
yawn... women's racing is often just so boring
the mens race was worse, longer race only for them all to wait until the last climb, at least here there were splits and attacks on earlier climbs
Olanda doping