Sexist Incident on NC Local Gov't Zoom
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- A local official in Greensboro, North Carolina, has been fired after disrespecting a Black resident by intentionally refusing to use her doctoral title - watch the moment here.
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“It doesn’t really matter.” If it didn’t matter he woulda corrected it after the first request. It definitely matters to him
No sorry old white man is right
@@rastatank1345 titles are important when you have qualifications. Would you not address a man by his title?
Also, it does matter in this context especially because her expertise as someone with a doctorate in public health was being discussed. By not calling her Doctor he was attacking her credentials and authority to speak on the topic under discussion.
@@maggieburkart907 Bingo. That's exactly what he was doing.
@@OddlyElly i was sarcastic thats why I called him old white man
Literally isn’t hard to add Dr. when calling her. The man’s ego just decided to sabotage his career
For real I literally don’t understand why people can’t be respectful and kind. Especially with something so simple as this. It’s just one word.. ://
This woman is a Karen lol. She's so thirsty to be in the victim Olympics she made a big deal over petty nonsense. Pure nonsensical pedanticism at it's finest. You do realize you're still a mr or ms even when you're a doctor right? You do realize that is literally just a title bestowed on an individual by an academic institution right?
@@sparkyboomboomboi7051 doctor is an official title lol
@Маша Паракина Negative. That's clearly petty pedenticism. And he responded equally as petty. One is Karen and the other is a Darren.
Ego is the worst killer in some things. This is a great example.
"Hey Carrie" he knew exactly what he was doing and used to doing it to others. He picked the correct one that day.
What a sad and petty man. Probably feels threatened that an educated WOC is above his level 🙄🤦♀️ good riddance
@@properapost6938 I earned an M.A. So, you can call me Master Hutton.
@@williamhutton2126 while an M.A. is a significant accomplishment, obviously you address a doctor as Doctor, not "Mr." or "Miss".
@@CeeCeeB. You didn't address me by my earned honorific. Does your hypocrisy and lack of self awareness know no bounds? And it isn't 'obvious' to address a doctor as doctor when their screen name displays no such title.
@@williamhutton2126 my self-awareness is quite intact, sir. We don't know each other, so I am not overly concerned with your snap judgments.
Your honorific, as I said, is important. The main mark of an educated man really should be intelligence. An important component of intelligence, in my opinion, is manners. I was polite to you.
Therefore, I will state: I respect your opinion, and your degree, despite your rudeness. Just as the lady doctor in the video respected the elderly gentleman that refused to respect her.
Have a wonderful night and take care.
Her response to his disrespect showed a lot of class, and reminded me that I can still respect myself when I’m being disrespected. Kudos, Dr. Rosario!!
*clapping* yes! YES YES A THOUSAND TIMES YES! I love this, THANK YOU Milah!
With Love n Respect
The most important opinion of U is yours.
Love n Blessings Family!!!
She's culturally right, and as long as it stays in the court of public opinion she will win.
However the commission went too far with their action.
None of them can legally force him to say anything he doesn't want to say.
Can't you see how this sort of thing could be taken and all sorts of wrong directions?
For example I'm landlord by the name of Al Mikey, appears before then and tells them that they have to address him as Lord Al Mikey. By the precedent that they just set they must now call this guy Lord Al Mikey.
@@TruckTaxiMoveIt I respect your point of view. The only difference is she earned her doctorate degree, which affords her the right to be addressed as “Dr.”. More importantly, he was intentionally refusing to address her properly, because he wanted to be rebellious. But I do see what you mean in your example.
@@TruckTaxiMoveIt doctor is an earned title, landlord is a job…
please don’t give in to your hate like the commissioner did and just respect women and black people. not that hard
His excuse: but Dr is not in your name, yet neither was Mrs/Ms yet he kept using it after being corrected about her proper title. Blatant disrespect
I so agree! How did he know she was a "Mrs?" That's assuming she's married unless she said so. It should've been Ms. if he didn't know and Dr. after she told him.
@@ChaosMechanica she referred to herself as Dr. Rosario...respect her position..
@Joel Roldan totally agree that Mrs/Ms is typically used as a form of respect, also agree that Tony was clearly using it to disrespect her by trying to place her “even lower” than him in the totem pole in his eyes. Glad hes out.
@Me me the only reason why he didn't address her as doctor is because as a white man he looks down on her.
@Me me you’re willing to lose your position just to Irritate someone. Get off of the Trump Train it’s over. People are not trying to hear your nonsense.
People only apologize after they realize they're going to face consequences of their disrespect and microaggression
This guy actually made a genuine apology after the council fired him. Of course, he's a real estate developer and I'm guessing he would like to continue doing business in the Greensboro area. Why is a real estate developer on a zoning board anyway? It's not like he's going to be a neutral observer.
I wouldn’t even call this a micro-aggression. I’d just call it straight up “aggression” because it was intentionally disrespectful and made with bad intent.
Thats not true at all, considering in the very same video it was mentioned that she corrected another person who immediately apologized and corrected themselves.
@@carolinemikaelson1939 I think there is a difference between making a mistake and purposely disrespecting someone through micro-aggression, so the first person can see their own fault and genuinely apologize on the spot. The guy in the video shows clear disrespect even after he was corrected
@@Don-md6wn it definitely wasn't genuine. he wouldn't have sat there and argued with her and disrespected her like that over A TITLE.
In a work setting, you call professionals by their titles. To not call someone "Doctor" in a situation where they are using their doctorate degree just prevents them from being recognized for their expertise. I don't think she was being petty. She was being undermined, and she called him out.
Agreed, there was a reason she wanted to addressed in that manner.
Not when she has a doctorate in public health and was addressing this issue
@@jakeholt1572 they are genuinely seeing as a waste of time by productive people. Just people staying on the educational system too long. What they heck will a 13 yr doctorate in public health do for you
Just my personal opinion, but I don't think it matters and is disrespectful to other people with a doctorate degree to place them on a lower pedestal. This is coming from someone who has multiple family members who are MDs and have Doctorates in other fields.
The word Doctor comes for the Latin word docere which means teach. Doctors throughout history were those who taught and learned, it never mattered if it was for medicine or not that is a recent interpretation.
While MDs do rounds and exams that are extremely difficult, students going for their doctorates also have obstacles. They spend years on their thesis to become an expert and have to defend their life's work in front of a panel of established experts who basically tear it to pieces in order for the student to prove how well they can defend it, because they have to be an expert in order to earn said degree.
MDs do amazing work. But doctors are doctors, people who dedicate their life to learning and teaching as the root word suggests. MDs are called medical doctors for a reason. We just refer to them all as Doctor because there's no reason to go around saying Medical Doctor Johnson. Or Public Health Doctor Rosario. Or even Medical Doctor of Cardiovascular Disease Dr. Yamamoto. They all dedicated their lives to learning beyond what they obtain from school.
This is just my opinion though, and everyone is entitled to their own.
@@AliceSakihara Not sure if it was commented on thank you for sharing this insight.
So happy she didn't just let this go. It's about respect. She earned her title and it was important to make it known that she was speaking with a voice of authority on the issues they were discussing.
exactly...in professional setting, you behave like a professional. Period!
I bet he did it before, but this time it was caught on Zoom.
@@selenaphillips6971 that is the scary part...how often did this happen before?
Exactly, she probably wants to be call that way due to her opinions as authority in a formal work meeting. Now, if she ask people to call her Doctor any single time, now that's delusional.
A Doctorate is a trial in of itself! She has ever right to demand to be called by her doctorate title! She earned that and deserves that it be said aloud by her peers! 👏🏼👏🏼
He wasn't sorry, he only apologized because his actions got noticed.
Exactly! He said it really doesn't matter. THAT was his true character shining thru.
And he obviously wanted his actions noticed by everyone. He was very comfortable in repeatedly insulting her and even ramping up the insults by ignoring her wishes and calling her by her first name and then stating he didn’t care. I’m certain his whole life he’s talked down to black women and always got away with it. Now he sits at home cursing her and thinking he’s the one who’s been wronged
Because it acknowledges she may be smarter or know more on specific topics than he does, small minded men who are emotionally insecure fear being replaced by more competent women or more competent minorities, and usually bully other men a little to keep their management roles....
Rather than enrolling in college coursework and getting a degree, or being polite to those who have one and have something relevant to say, people they dislike are considered uppity interlopers for daring to have ideas and opinions of their own.
@John Mags he’s a sexist POS. Bigly racist also.
Exactly
She has a doctorate on public health talking about a public health issue, she is talking not only as a concerned citizen but also as an expert.
To refuse to call her Dr. is to deny her opinion carries extra weight and merrit.
So, yeah, it does matter
That's the gist of it, by refusing to call her title he is trying to discredit her opinion as an expert on public health, quite a douchebag of the highest order I might say.
He thought that she was ignorant when he saw her face and the spelling of her name. His only intention was to dismiss her knowledge and concerns. Too many neighborhoods are being dismantled by private entities and the residents are being dismissed and left diseased and/ or dying. It's a hard sell when you're faced with someone with the knowledge and facts that will thwart your plans. He got handled in more ways than one on this one. Good riddance to him.
🤷🏿♂️ stupi
Big facts
It Shows JUST how Uneducated and Insecure THIS individual Really is. Handled properly Sista.
Seeing how the vote to boot him was UNANIMOUS, it's safe to say that everybody who knows him personally thinks he was just belittling her
They knew they would be next if they didn't vote to do so.
@@abum4595 That's indeed a bold statement,... so prove it. I think I can reasoned with if you show me some data.
@@abum4595 you must be his friend
@@abum4595 as if there was no reason to vote him out anyways....you're complicating a quite simple matter
This must be one of the stupidest ways to lose a job.
He was intentionally disrespecting her. “It doesn’t really matter” ????? Nah. And he’s gonna be the first one to say she was being difficult when all he had to say was oh I’m sorry about that Dr Rosario. Smfh.
Exactly. It mattered so much to him that he had to make a massive deal of it rather than showing some basic respect to her.
@Devin Barclay You're really obsessed with this woman huh? I've seen you in two replies now, do you have a crush on her?
@Josh Smith she spent 12 years + in school and very nicely asked to be addressed by the name she asked to be called. She worked her butt off for that title…, call her by her title!
@Josh Smith...what do you mean “not that kind of doctor”? How long do you think it takes to earn a Ph.D.? Hint: usually longer than med school...
@Josh Smith sir. you need to get other degrees like bachelors before you can go for your doctorate lmao 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 some people even get a masters beforehand. you should make sure you have any idea what you're talking about before you call someone ELSE a doofus, you doofus.
This was not just about disrespecting this woman. It was about trying to undermine her argument on the subjecto of public health - a subject in which her doctorate proves her knowledge, standing and qualifications. He sought to undermine her argument by ignoring her status as an academic. This is how some men have tried to deal with intelligent women when they feel inadequate themselves. She exemplified grace and tenacity in responding to his boorish behaviour. A masterclass in good manners and restraint.
Calling her a doctor wouldn’t substantiate her knowledge on the subject because, to my limited knowledge, they didn’t know what her doctorate was in. I could be wrong though, since this video was all I watched, and the guy was extremely disrespectful regardless.
Ignorant men are really difficult to deal with and he is a prime example. He could also have very racist views.
@@svalentine4667 True, but it was the same when the Republicans refused to give Dr Jill Biden her title. It's such a petty way to try and diminish women. A doctorate is the highest educational qualification and shows a specialism in their field. That's why she was insisting on his using it. And I can't believe if they were in a particular meeting that he would not have known about her evident background knowledge and concern.
Subjecto
YEP
That jerk knew what he was doing. He wanted to make her feel small. Good on her for standing up for herself.
@sinsinister28 she's also exercising her right. Or is she not allowed to do so because she's not privileged?
@sinsinister28 why are you trying to defend him, and that with an argument that makes no sense
I earned an M.A. So you can call me Master Hutton.
@sinsinister28 it has nothing to do with freedom speech its something called respect
@sinsinister28 actually it’s a part of her freedom of speech to correct him as many times as she wants to. His freedom of speech was not violated, he didn’t get arrested. And yes it is a matter of respect. And that’s all this is. I have no idea why you decided to bring freedom of speech into this in the first place.
"I know what I'll do. I'll just be a disrespectful jerk to her and then all of my points in this matter will be validated and I'll win the debate, and my reputation will remain completely intact. I mean, it's not as if these public web calls are ever recorded and posted online for millions to see and judge."
Funniest comment yet 🏆
Without the last sentence this strategy works super well in everyday life for a lot of men. He just didn't realize the internet works a bit different, sometimes.
@@sonjaenste647 or and for the record I think he acted like a twit but maybe his issue wasn't her being black or a woman but he's just an old man who has an ego and didn't like being wrong and corrected in front of alot of people?? he is definitely a toss pot tho
@@jonathanhurst980 that is a real possibly but as a woman who is a POC and in my 20s.. this is so familiar and blood curdling. I truly truly hope that what you are saying is true for all of our sakes and for my daughters sake when I have kids. But until I see other wise “This is a mans world” (James brown)
This is funny. But the disturbing part of his behavior is that he did not care that people were watching this. He did not even seek to hide his disrespect.
That dismissive attitude was unreal. I would have liked for him to have that same vibration when he was apologizing to her on the voicemail. So he try to dismiss her in public but wants to apologize in private what a coward
I mean, that's the honorable thing to do. Making a big public show of your morality cheapens it. Unless she specifically requests something public it shouldn't be public. As it stands her public honor is shining and his is in the dirt. Public apologies do him more good than her.
He probably apologised only when he realised he might have made a mistake for his own career. I doubt it was heartfelt.
@Phil Kane people call physics professors doctor all the time
Glad this disrespectful man was dropped from the commission.
Dr Rosario behaved with class and aplomb. I would hope to act as honorably as she does.
I'd like to offer another perspective. He couldn't verify that she had a doctorate, he could only go off of her claims at a public hearing. She was asking him to validate a piece of information PUBLICLY that she presented, that he had no additional information on. This is a tricky ask to make. What if she had made it up for influence? In this case she didn't, but other people would. What if it was a resident who wanted to pretend to have a title in order to be more influential on the audience? "I am a doctor, and the social distancing rules are overblown, there's no need to require such excessive precautions against covid. Please, I insist you continue to call me doctor as you debate with me."
This went fast
@@karrotyy And maybe everyone should have to prove their gender just in case someone is dressed as the opposite gender for the same reason you mentioned?? Obviously not!
@@karrotyy I don't think there is a reason to ask her to certify her studies. She was not speaking as a doctor (medicine) about covid, they were talking about a water sanitation issue in the community.
The fact of asking to be called a doctor is simple: it takes years of study, effort and work to obtain that title and the least you can ask is to be recognized. The simple fact that you say "he could not check if she really is a doctor" is already disrespectful because you are questioning her word and I see no reason to do so.
From my perspective, he was disrespectful, sexist and racist as well as foolish.
The fact that he was fired by the rest of the commission speaks volumes.
@@karrotyy
So you, just as he did, refused to acknowledge “how” she wanted to be addressed? You can go to see someone who calls himself a medical doctor. It doesn’t have to be that said person is actually a medical doctor.
Forged documents are just that. It doesn’t negate how she wanted to be addressed just because you can’t call her alma mata and see what class she achieved said degree in.
Congratulations 🎈🎊🍾🎉 you just played yourself.
The sentence that came out of his mouth before the "Mrs." was even more hateful. He claimed those meeting had " lost their way" and in a condescending tone sought to disregard her concern for her water quality.
Thank you Dr. Rosario. I hope your concerns were addressed.
No different than Tucker Carlson saying Dr. Jill Biden shouldn't be addressed as Dr because she doesn't have a Medical Doctorate but had no problem with calling Sebastian Gorka..... Dr, for years.....even though he also didn't have a medical doctorate!
Sexism is REAL!
A man could have a doctorate in Gender Studies and Conservative Men would address him as Dr.
A woman could have a doctorate in an actual Medical profession and Conservative Men would address her, based on her marital status, not her professional achievements .....Not Dr. West....but Mrs. West!
@@velvetrose7729 This was a joke in the first Ghostbusters movie in 1984 and it was toward a male character. This isn't a sexist thing it's a roll your eyes and move on thing.
@@soulhunter59 ur right it’s not just sexist, it’s also a form of racial microaggressions that black women face on a day to day basis. It was definitely sexist when the man referred to her as ‘Mrs. Rosario’ when it doesn’t even display that title in the zoom call.
@@ludhiapidiseti6265 This probably happens more to men than women because men don’t tend to grow a hissy fit and post it on social media. I once knew a vet who was called mister every day by a woman receptionist. So he paged himself so she was forced to call him doctor over the intercom.
@@soulhunter59 she didn’t post it on social media, it went viral after someone else posted it because it was a public forum so anyone could have been part of the zoom call. If he wasn’t sexist then why did he call her mrs? How did he know she was married? did he just assume that she was married because she’s a female? He specifically went out of his way to call her mrs instead of ms which is the neutral term, he knew what he was doing and people like u are just blind to stuff like this. He was super unprofessional and deliberately rude towards that woman thank god he got fired
"the city council voted unanimously to drop him from the commission" Good riddance!
Great. Hope he sues the Greensboro local government for $ 100 million, for wrongful termination.
@Sandy Trunks; my thoughts exactly!
@@johnnyzeee5215 he was not terminated, he was voted off for his disrespectful behaviour which was deeply indicative of his arrogance and wrong thinking. The people spoke. What a shame some are still not listening!
@@taniaphillips3124 The video titles say " fired." Sounds equivalent to " terminated " to me. Can call it anything anybody wants to. Guaranteed Mr. Collins " knows somebody " in Greensboro, who already got him another job within the local government.
@@johnnyzeee5215 I wouldn't care where he goes! His wyt arshe will know to keep his mouth closed or ELSE!!! Simple as that...
"Your name says on here, 'Carrie Rosario.' Hi, Carrie."
The disrespect. Refusing to call her Dr and proceeding again with Mrs, then calling her by her first name to nail that disrespect in. Glad he was fired.
He should have known better--he is obviously older than she is.
@@JuliafloMuch much much older.
@@JuliafloI disagree. Age is not a parameter of well-developed character.
You can feel from his voice that his ego kicked in. Dr. Rosario was so respectable in her speech and response.
sure... you can totally not hear the thunder of HER ego preceeding it... 😂
@@dumpsky you sound white dude who doesn’t spend to much time considering notions of respect
@@tylerknight99 thank you so much for this! i was wondering how long it would take for somebody to go as low as making this about racism, but here you are, citing 'respect' while insulting someone based on 'possible whiteness' and completely oblivious to the irony of it all... i wish you and your infantile world view all the best!
Oh my God. She has the ego
@endwhitegenocide stopdestroyingwhitehomelands if someone called you the wrong name you would correct them, wouldn't you?
"It doesn't matter", yet he refused to call her Dr. Rosario. Then said "hey Carry". How sarcastic and rude. Blatant disrespect smh
You title does not matter. Only fact matter.
@@vshah1010 true, and part of establishing fact is understanding its source, titles are used, in professional settings, to establish that the speaker is credible.
To deny a title in such a setting is done in order to attempt to discredit the speaker and make their point less valid.
The fact he sarcastically then used her first name instead of simply acknowledging or continuing show he was, at the minimum, intending to be disrespectful
@@kluuvien8204 She can say something like this "By the way, I have a PHD and so I am a Doctor". This would show her credentials without attaching it to her name. But, calling herself "Doctor" is inappropriate.
@@vshah1010 I'm sorry, I am not sure what the difference is in those statements, other than possibly the strange recent belief that all doctors are medical doctors
@@vshah1010 She holds a doctorate so she is a doctor. She has earned the right to be earned as such. What’s so inappropriate about that?
Without being told that a previous attendee had been corrected and apologized for addressing her incorrectly, it was painfully obvious that he was disrespecting her. I admire her patience and class.
@Mike Smith ok karen
@Mike Smith If she has a PhD, she is entitled to be addressed as Doctor. The fact that this man is too stupid or bigoted to realize that reflects the lack of enlightenment in the state in which he resides and his probable affiliation with the Republican party.
@Mike Smith
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@Mike Smith You sad human. We pitty you. Reread your post and ask yourself, is this the kind of person I would want disrespecting my friend, mom, sister, daughter, wife, etc..., who took the time to earn the title.
Or... you just posted this nonsense to upset the balance, stir the pot, or all around spread douchbaggery.
@Mike Smith it's PhD degree. A title that a mediocre guy like both of us probably will never get. It might sound selfish , but you have rights to be called with your degree simply because you earned it. People may call others any kind of name, but in this case Dr Rosario wants people to call her with that title. When people ask you to call them by their preferred name and you decided to call them otherwise, it is indeed not a crime, but disrespectful. It's not about political correctness, it's about having decent attitude.
She is black. She is a woman. She is highly educated. Somehow that is very provocative for some men. How so?
All the people here knew how so, but some are pretending it’s about something else. I’m glad she’s being so assertive and brave to stick to that.
Well when some men feel useless, usually because they are, and hold on to the rediculous notion that women are somehow less than men. They feel the need to tear down women, especially successful high achieving women to make themselves feel better. This also applies for insecure white people tearing down successful black people, though I am inclined to believe this one is more about misogyny than racism based on his words.
She was against him stance on the zoning debate, so it was adversly beneficial to him have her position supported by a PHD title
I think that if Dr Rosario was of Hispanic descent that, along side what was already brought up (black, female, and educated), that was what bothered that man more. To see a black Hispanic descent educated woman be successful and holding her own in their discussion.
@Jason Cantrell I'm not sure. I'd have to see how this fool treats other women. This could be pure racism, but there could very well be some sexism involved.
The fact that he said hi Carrie proved what was in his heart..he had to be called out.
Yes, I agree. And her changing the discussion from a development project destroying a neighborhoods drinking water was brilliant.
I would address her as Carrie or Mrs. Rosario every time, and I guarantee you I would not lose my job. 😀
@@acp865 well, you don't have such an important job as a "commissioner", you're irrelevant in this case🤡
@@acp865 See to it that you never, ever, ever dare to call her 'honey' , 'babe', or 'sweetheart'.
Such brittle spirits
Tony collins couldnt accept he got corrected publicly. He couldnt handle the shame of someone he thinks is lower of him. And eventually to try to save his bum he apologised privately. Very poor character.
And he probably only did that to try and save his job.
@Kicapu It doesn't matter if he felt any shame. He got fired.
He is a character but that doesn't mean he has one.
Agreed. :D He said "I'm sorry" while he was in the middle of insulting Dr. Rosario. He could have skipped lying to her again after the meeting ended. Can you imagine listening to his recorded apology? Yikes. It makes my skin crawl.
There is no shame in address someone when she was asking respectfully for it, he wanted to let everyone knows that if she is educated didn't matter to him, he saw her as a threat , that is why he was aggressively diminishing her title, to remove her value and education during the debate
He was flatly dismissing her. She is a boss for standing her ground. ❤
I work with doctors. They don’t demand such things. It’s highly narcissistic.
@@FirstNameLastName-wt5to Nope, not narcissistic to be asked to be called how you wish to be called… I’m a licensed mental health professional so I’m an expert on narcissism and narcissistic traits and behaviors. And your opinion has been refuted
@@FirstNameLastName-wt5to do you call your doctors by their first name
@@FirstNameLastName-wt5to - you work with doctors? Where? Are you a custodian in the prison infirmary?
@@Xhar308 The ones I work at the university with I do. I also work with people at NIH and I don’t always know if they are doctors or not. We get it wrong all the time. Not once has someone even corrected us. We all have more important things to do.
He not only dismissed her request to be called by her title, he completely dismissed her question. Its good that the others apologized for him and then dismissed him
So all a normal person would have had to say was, "Oh I'm sorry, Dr. Rosario. Let me update that in my notes."
Wouldn't it be a wonderful world.
99 out of a 100 times this is EXACTLY what happens, but Now This has to take every opportunity to create more racial strife. It's part and parcel of the time we live in.
This was not a normal conversation. Plus he continued to do it out of disrespect. Where's the maturity and Christian values?
@@CRtrain I don't think I would use the word hatred. I don't know the guy. Objectively, I definitely could see how he was trying to irritate her, but hatred? I don't see that by this video. And even if there was hatred, which is a jump, it is an even further jump to say that this was because she is black. That is my problem with these videos. It creates an environment where the mob judges a person's intent and life based on a 15 second clip, not only without context, but taken out of it's context as well. It's a terrible process that I hope nobody has to endure. Hopefully you don't find yourself on the wrong side of the mob.
@@jesusisc0mings00n3 The context we saw is that she wanted to be referred to as doctor. He didnt want to do that. Ignorance
Any decent person in this case would just say, “Sorry for that doctor” Him doing it again on purpose to get under her skin and trying to talk over her to skip ahead feels like animosity to me.
It was a petty way to try to undermine her, he was clearly upset about the water issue that she brought up, and started out by trying to dismiss that first.
I earned an M.A. So you can call me Master Hutton.
@@williamhutton2126 they would in Austria.
@@The_Kirk_Lazarus she has her doctorate in public health. SHE IS A DOCTOR. I don’t know why people dismiss doctorates in other areas as less than, but it is beyond ridiculous and disrespectful.
And it would be more than appropriate to use her title because she was using her knowledge and expertise to add to her argument. In everyday life, most doctors will not demand that you use their title. However, this is a special circumstance that involves information from a specialized field, so the use of her title was warranted.
@@The_Kirk_Lazarus she is a real doctor. Do you think that only medical doctors are real?
That is not how that works.
Adressing a medical professional by the title doctor happend after it was common to call scholars in other fields that.
He was absolutely being disrespectful. She asked to be called Doctor, which is her right. He continued to be rude on purpose.
But she is not a doctor.
@@bngr_bngr She has earned her PhD and part of that is the right to be addressed, and properly so, as 'Doctor.'
You're wrong. He was perfectly respectful.
@@bngr_bngr Sigh. A physician and a person with a PhD have the same title.
It really isn’t that deep lmao, when I was at law school my professor didn’t have a temper tantrum when I said “mr” or “ms” a couple times instead of doctor lol.
My father had a Ph.D in psychology and for many years was the director of the psychology department at a hospital. Except when he was at work, he never introduced himself as Dr. and never asked anyone to call him Dr. I've always thought that people who insist on being called Dr. were rather arrogant and pretentious. That said, it was clear that this man was deliberately being disrespectful to this woman. I'm also aware that my father, a white man, didn't have to worry about whether he was being treated with respect, while I'm sure this black woman has to deal with disrespect all the time.
yeah its like in college. Some professors want to be called by Doctor and some are fine with first names. It's just personal preference, if someone wants to be addressed as doctor then its really not that hard to just say dr. I mean if anyone wants to be addressed a certain way that should be respected but especially if youve spent years of your life and tons of money to earn the title.
I mean this was an official setting. I would have gone by Dr. as well. If people are calling me Ms. they might as well be using my correct title
Not surprising at all. As a woman who has participated in hundreds of corporate meetings I am all too familiar with the hostile paternal attitude . . . Good for the Doctor for standing her ground with class and grace!
Gotta hear more... Go on....
It would be nice if "class and grace" wouldn't have to be mentioned as an attribute in these cases. It's as if there's expected to be another option. And if for some reason blasting that man or disengaging from the call is what she chose to do would that have made her less correct? It would have surprised me, but I wouldn't condemn her for it.
I've been thinking of the idea of people "believing in peaceful protests" a bunch over the past week, and I'm finding it troublesome. It's still a way to police the behavior of the oppressed. Another form of respectability politics.
Maybe these thoughts shouldn't have landed on you, but there we have it .
Laura tell us your story! I would love to hear it❤️ please
This isn’t a paternal thing, this is a racist bigot thing. Don’t blanket men and masculinity in general please.
It's hilarious that you would consider his attitude hostile. Stop being so oversensitive you drama queen.
Tony's true intentions were revealed, I'm sure he doesn't give an eff about Dr. Rosario's clean water. Glad you put him in his place.
If she truly cared about the water then she would’ve stayed on topic rather than continually make an issue about something so silly.
I guarantee, if someone demanded that I address them as Dr. I would make it a point to call them by their first name or by Mr. or Mrs., regardless of their gender or race.
@@acp865 Her doctorate in public health kinda relates to her concern about public health
@@ditalivy8689 You’re exactly right 👍🏻
Why did everyone wait till after the call to say something?!! You see he was being disrespectful to her on purpose but yet they all still sit their and say nothing. Ugh that aggravates my soul
I could only assume and am probably wrong but while someone has the “floor” I don’t believe everyone else is just allowed to chime in. I’d hope they did it at their earliest availability to do so
@@jaetea5923 If everyone just started talking over each other then there is no point. The best way for the others to handle it is to call her by her preferred name when they address her. That show respect and support for her.
@@dustigenes I agree with this. This way it's clear what his intentions were and wont be able to spin it when someone chimed in and tossed his 2 cents.
I agree. Nip it in the bud in that very moment - in real time - so he knows *RIGHT THEN* that he’s not supported in his actions, statements nor behaviors.
@@Leno323 That's nipping the incident in the bud. It's not stopping the behavior.
Keeping the microphones muted, hearing what he really thought, and letting him self destruct seems to solve a lot more problems.
"It doesn't really matter."
If you really believe that, then what's the problem? Call her "Dr. Rosario."
The whole point of him not acknowledging her as a doctorate was to be dismissive and to not acknowledge her. His words were purposeful and deliberate I'm not surprised his behavior was typical.
no. the whole point was that Ms. Rosario's presence was not as a Phd in mental health, but as a plaintiff in a matter completely unrelated to her field she did a doctorate in. i'm pretty sure you do not understand this as you prefer projection and conjecture... i'm sure he's mean to kittens too...
@@dumpsky
Your comment is irrelevant plus using the term conjecture speaks for itself, because even by your comment her tittle as a Dr has no relevance to his paritical oppion he should still have the respect to refer to her to her official title of Dr, but by your comment it appears you have some form of distain for poeple or women such as her, and trying to use soundbites to justify it Emm 😱🤔
@@pog0777 why should i have distain for her?? i don't even know her. but you seem to have a lot of distain for me, although you don't know me. also you are projecting... i explained myself quite well enough.
@@dumpsky and the word you're looking for is "disdain." Stop pretending you're an expert when you're struggling to spell short words.
@@DS-oopa sorry, but english is only my 3rd language. apart from that, your comment is completely devoid of any useful information. try harder you powertool. 😂
i instantly had the feeling that you're a dud, but i had to be sure. here's one of your excuisite comments:
"The irony of her wearing a shirt that says 'Tokyo' but seems so 'proud' to be a bigoted American."
here's the correct sentence:
"The irony that she wears a shirt that says "Tokyo" but seems so "proud" to be a bigoted American."
glad i could help, you muppet :-D
with a doctorate in public health i bet she’s more qualified to be on that council than he is
That’s EXACTLY what I was thinking!! And not only that but she’s a professor...
She's qualified only for stupid context and nothing else.
@@caringmouse5385 well he got kicked off for his actions, so who’s stupid and who’s the Doctor?
@Me me you are a prime example of people who boast to loving animals but hate humans......
Who cares if you have horses and that you use your animals as your identity. Your boasting regarding helping veterans/first responders is done for vain, self serving purposes while pandering to and misleading the masses posing as a good person. Do not be self deceived.
If what you say is true, your honesty is appreciated.
@Me me “I wouldn’t address Carrie as Dr. and there isn’t a thing anyone could do about it” well yeah, but who cares what you call her. You’re just some person on the internet. I can call you whatever I want and it would hold no merit. But let me walk in to your little “Harley shop” and call you out of name let’s see how easy you let it run off your back baby girl.
Normal convo:
-it's Dr. Rosario
-oh excuse me, so Dr. Rosario...
What about how she addressed him.....??!!! Doctor Rosario should have addressed him ..Commissioner Collins.....Case Dismissed.... Go outside and sort yourselves out...we have more pressing issues on the AGENDA..and ...Ego is not on here
@@dennisbean9636 she said I wouldn't call you tony so address me as I indicated. What didn't you get? It's only ego when it's a black or person of color.
She was WAY out of line, she very rudely interrupted without ever getting permission from or being recognized by the Chair. She then kept continuously interrupting, without ever being recognized by the Chair. She made a total fool of herself in the first place by bringing up the "dr." thing and expecting anyone to call her that. What an ignoramus, she was so rude and ridiculous..
Normal convo: She NEVER interrupts him to say something so stupid, esp. since the Chair has not recognized her so she is NOT ALLOWED to speak at that point, yet she continues to do it over and over and over, very rudely interrupting the meeting and disrespecting the people who so graciously allowed her to participate. Also she IS Mrs. Rosario, so he was completely correct to begin with.
@@catenelson7848 She wasn’t interrupting she correcting his mistakes and normal people would correct themselves and apologize for using the wrong title. If she is a medical doctor or has a PhD then she is in fact a doctor. Her title would in fact be Dr. and it would be wrong to refer her as Mrs.
It's not just about respect. Her title is extremely important especially when you take into account the context of the discussion.
The way he said "hi carrie" was so brutally disrespectful, i love that she pointed out that she wouldn't call him Tony, because women tend to be called by their first name in ANY context
In Denmark we only call people by their names,unless its a guest from another country or if someone insists or you are in some high level conference.The entire world of Miss,Mrs,Mr and titles in front of a name. simply isnt used and in the years i have worked in a hospital,i have never heard anyone adressed as Dr exept by a fly by patient.. patients who know their Dr over a period of time rarely uses Dr
@@annemettefrederiksen7751 - And that works beautifully in Denmark. But when in Rome, do as the Romans do. In some places, not using a title is disrespectful.
@@dracomaifoy7377 i wasnt commenting negatively on this situation,of course he was disrespectful towards another person and should be dealt with accordingly. Just wished to bring attention to details of other cultures and traditions and didnt really see how this could offend
@@annemettefrederiksen7751 If you didn't see how this could offend, you must be a right winger.
@@annemettefrederiksen7751 I’m so sick of these people bringing up these other scenarios in different countries and different settings. Can we stay on topic? Can we keep it in THIS context? What they do/say in Denmark has nothing to do with this particular incident. It is an old southern white man speaking to a young black woman. This kind of disrespect happens all the time, it’s happened to me. It’s just rarely on camera. He represents the “old guard” trying to keep Black people in their place. That’s the only context that matters, here. Instead of apologizing and correcting himself, he calls her by her FIRST name. That is disrespectful. Period.
Imagine being dropped from a job because you're too stubborn to address someone properly
Some of these idiots dont realize the uprising happening in black women. We're sick of being invisible!
Could not happen to a deserving individual
Right! It's ridiculous the level of ignorance and arrogance such people have. His deliberate refusal to respectfully address Dr Rosario as she wished knowing the likely consequences is beyond pure idiocy.
he wanted to smacc dem blasian cheeks but knew he was an old fool 😔
Racism and Sexism are why he got dropped; he thought he could continue with no consequences. Welp; wake up, they're finally here!
Earn your PhD and you would be offended as well. She politely asked to be referred to a title she worked so hard for and was disrespected
he was clearly resentful because she earned her Phd and he does not . and she is half his age. this is racism compounded with jealousy. i could see the met bugs all over his face.
@@PHlophe yes jealous person she earned the title
And her title was relevant to her commentary. Private citizens should be valued, but she had additional knowledge to back up her claims. Why was he so heated about clean drinking water?
💯💯💯💯
Tony can’t earn a PhD his dad ain’t buying degrees anymore😂
This guy felt intimidated by an educated female. It happens
@Devin Barclay I hope you only get daughters.
@@MariaV0071 i'm so sure he lacks the testicular fortitude to have babies.... it takes a man who was raised by a Lday to treat women like LADIES....you know what i'm talking about
Her name said "Carrie Rosario, PhD." Everybody knows what a PhD is! There is no question but that he was being intentionally disrespectful and dismissive of her by refusing to call her by the title she has earned. His continued refusals also made him look stupid. So glad the city council voted to drop him from the commission.
Her name doesn't have PhD. It's just "Carrie Rosario"
The Charlotte Observer reported her name and title. Why is addressing her as "Dr." such an issue for you? Even people who hold honorary doctorates are addressed as "Dr." This woman earned her PhD in public health. Address her by her title!
But many people don’t go by Dr even when they have a PhD. So it’s ok to assume initially. However after she mentioned how she would like to be addressed, he should have used Dr
If you're referring to the text at 2:55, that's obviously just text that NowThisNews has edited over the top of the video to say who said something, and what their qualification is.
If you look at 0:04, you'll see that everyone's name is listed with no title. -which is not to defend his continued addressing of her as Mrs instead of Dr, even after being corrected. I'm just confused at how anyone could seemingly confuse what was in the raw video with what was overlaid on it.
All I needed to know was that he was fired. Thank you. Have a good day.
Yea, but he is a white man with education and background, he will just get another job elsewhere and carry on his ways dismissing ppl who don’t look like or agree with him.
@@SuperSaverPlaysSPG Very true. But hopefully whoever hires him in the future does their due diligence, pulls his work history and makes some phone calls. Not to say that will happen, but let’s hope 🤞🏽
@@SuperSaverPlaysSPG Black people with education and background will also get jobs, not just white poeple.
@@hollengrhen1 Yes, but as was shown in the video, not always the respect they deserve.
@@hollengrhen1 I never said otherwise, thank you so much for misinterpreting the comment.
Got a co-worked named "William", I called him "Will" the first time. He said "that's not my name", so I've called him "William" ever since.
Call him Billy next time
@@kamotorosyan1106 what thought process lead to you thinking that this was funny
@@jwlsiee Humor is subjective
@@kamotorosyan1106 Big Willie Style
humor's subjective
Honestly wish she'd been like "yes Mrs Collins" and then him go "actually is Mr" and then her go "don't like it when the tables are turned do we?"
nah, I'm glad she didn't stoop to his level. She handled herself respectfully
Lmao you comfortable with this comment huh?
That wud of been funny
@@professionalhater2303 it's funny in theory..not all of us act on our made up scenario
No that would have made her just as bad as him if someone kills someone you aren’t going to kill someone as well you will report them to the police
Think of all the WOMEN that have just let it slide over the decades. It would have been so easy for him to make that tiny adjustment and this wouldn't be in front of my face.
I almost thought you meant a 'tony' adjustment
Women
@Feather1916 she's an entitled woman. She deserves all the disrespect she gets; as do you. And I'm about certain you won't be doing anything about it, despite your claims to the contrary.
@Kicapu the title doctor doesn't lower anyone
@@lockandloadlikehell Yeah she's entitled to equal treatment. There's no reason for her to be the only ome not addressed by her title. You're just a confused sexist.
He absolutely was doing his level best to disrespect her in any way he could, and given the way he kept refusing to use her actual title she should be offended.
I'm so proud of Dr Rosario for standing up for herself and demanding the respect due to her on this public forum. She's absolutely right. He would have been ballistic had she or anyone else in the meeting addressed him as Tony.
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Exactly! She worked for that doctorate degree which by no means is an easy thing to do. Good on you DR. ROSARIO!!!!!!
She was so calm (on the outside) too, cant help but admire her for that.
How did you work that out?
I wonder if he would’ve acted the same way with a white male doctor..? My guess is no.
Kudos to Dr Rosario for speaking and sticking up for herself; she’s a role model just for that.
Or a Male doctor
Good on you for assuming your opinion to be true, based on a your own hypothetical example. Not childish at all. Haha
Why do you think so? Because he is a white male he must obviously be sexist and racist?
Do you know how hard it is to get a PhD? Not just doing the PhD but all the years of study leading up to it to gain your Master's degree, and before that your degree, and before that the grades to get to university. These titles are earned and should be respected.
Nobody cares.
@@fatherson5907 turn out its only you that doesnt care
@@asch7983 plenty of people don’t care about that pretentious beast
@@fatherson5907 jealousy much?
@@emmajones7492 jealous of what? Being so insecure that you need to flex on a zoom call?
I am proud of her!!!👏🏾She is a professor at the university where my cousin got her bachelors and masters degrees. He definitely needs to be gone. I know Greensboro can do better than him.
She is not a doctor.
@@bngr_bngr Yes she is. Stop being so jealous!
He was perfectly professional. She carried on about a minor technicality. No one cared what her official title was. It was about safe drinking water.
@@bngr_bngr you’re the main reason why we need to do more about our education system. 🤦🏽♀️
@@gayleschaefer6300 he was perfectly professional? 🤣🤣 there is no need to go forward with your reply because you’re only hurting yourself.
"It doesn't really matter," he states, but then he goes on to insist, several times, that she is a "Mrs".
Well, I don't know how can one objectively weight the degree of importance you assign to matters, but I guess that the guy didn't care enough to reassess his first sentence upon her request, I don't see that her academic history matters much to him
@@nomejodanya It could have been racism, it could have been mysoginy, it could have been he as just having a bad day, etc...
I denounce what he did but I also denounce getting him fired for it.
People are to stupidified by the media to look into real problems anymore these days...
I earned an M.A. So, you can call me Master Hutton.
The only sub comment section I agree with.
@@raimonestanol8234 people can have bad days but being flat out disrespectful or racist or misogynistic is done. We are all over that I think and if he can act like this in public he's probably worse in private. The firing will teach him a lesson,
He would rather be red-faced during the entire meeting rather than addressing her title 😑 so sad how you are already this old and never learnt respect.
I'm a doctor. I tell people to call me by my first name. However, I always address any other doctor with their title. If they don't tell me to call them by their first name, no biggie. I call them doctor. It's not that hard. Then again, I call people by their preferred pronoun and do my best to pronounce names the way the speaker has asked. Again, no biggie. Part of being a professional in a multicultural and open world.
Very well said. Thank you.
Exactly. If I meet a doctor i always call them by their title. It's common etiquette
And sadly enough, some folks didn't get the memo.
Same here, I am PhD as well, but I never felt offended if someone called me Mr, I actually prefer Mr than Dr. it is a lot less pretentious in my opinion that is why I never demand or correct people to call me Dr. If someone demand to be called Dr, I could see people resent it and feel it is pretentious condescending.
@@dctraveler7507 "please" is not the first word of a "demand", and a context where a doctor level expertise is nothing but relevant to the subject at hand is world's apart from daily conversation.
U do ur bachelor then ur masters then research for 4-6 yrs generally for ur ph.d and only then u earn that Dr title while ur friends are employed long ago and enjoying a good life. Every ph.d EARNS that Dr. title for their patience and effort
Not to mention not just anybody can be given the title of a PhD you genuinely have to have done some significant contribution to your field. So they are at the very periphery of human knowledge. Definitely deserve more respect. Shame on that man.
@Sir Frank, 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
No sometimes you have to work to pay your bills and care for people.
@@stjohnssoup no you don't understand, over qualifying yourself with badges for esoteric obsession is to be lauded.
@@stjohnssoup Those who are working towards their doctorates often have the same bills to pay and families to care for, which is why many also work regular jobs while also working towards those doctorates or try to scrape by on one spouse's wages, living on mac & cheese, and/or postponing that family that they want.
“Your name says Carrie so hi Carrie!” was a real douchey move.
The biggest douches are people who correct others on their proper titles. Those are often the same people who have their titles engraved on their tombstones.
He's red in the face lol. He's trying so hard to nonchalantly demean her.
It was funny
@@fizzybizzy3790 His motive was so obvious. It was like watching a child throw a tantrum and not eat his vegetables.
@@enadejeanne3452 It could have been racism, it could have been mysoginy, it could have been he as just having a bad day, etc...
I denounce what he did but I also denounce getting him fired for it.
People are to stupidified by the media to look into real problems anymore these days...
No one else said anything while ON the call? I'm sure it was awkward, but THAT was missed a opportunity as well.
I'm so glad she stood up for herself!
She was handling it on her own very well.
What's maddening is that another, White man, in the exact same teleconference, made that mistake and immediately corrected himself.
@@upabittoolate IKR?!?! He definitely got the RIGHT ONE with her. I mean, I know me, and there is NO WAY I could/would put up all of that toxic masculinity...With maturity.
He's Passive-Aggressive, and I'm Aggressive-Aggressive! 😆 I
He didn’t succeed in insulting her. All he was displaying there was a deep inferiority complex. She confidently put him in his place!👍
tip: if you want to be called by your title, use 'Dr. C. Rosario' as your chat name. this would prevent all this awkwardness. but noooooo... she actually says 'my name is Dr. Carrie Rosario' which is a bit fishy since 'Doctor' is not really a name. i would never use 'jimmy westinghouse' as my chat name and then say: actually it's 'James the III, Earl of Westinghouse'. ;-)
@@dumpsky lame
Noone is insulting her.
@@ephajanke3242 what he's to do anything with her qualifications? He has every right to call anyone how he wanted to call.
@@caringmouse5385 Ok, then we shall call you "Unintelligent" cause caring mouse is to good for you and doesn't properly describe you. "Willfully uncaring" or "Dunce mouse" fit you much better.
I admire how calm and classy she acted. He was being condescending to her and then he doubled down, trying to put her down. I am glad you stood your ground, Dr Rosario.
@Zoom Boom you sound like a typical white american male
@@kk7420 That's pretty racist, sexist and dismissive.
@Zoom Boom don't be a bigot and you would not have this problem.
Hate to break it to you , but she was very rude and condescending and interrupted him repeatedly... She was insecure af for having to let everyone KNOW she had a doctorate ... It was actually kind of pathetic on her part .
@@jille5458 It must be very normal to be racist over there, right?
I'm glad that people see these moments of disrespect for what they are, and recognize that it is not okay.
@John Greener I don't think it had anything to do with him being racist. It was disrespectful. When you've earned your title, rank or position you should be called it. Earning your Doctorate degree is no small feat and as such you have earned the right to be called by that.
@@traymillz1644 I was always taught that you're not better than anyone else, regardless of your race, gender or title. Wanting to be called Doctor seems pedantic and would be frowned upon nowadays, at least where I'm from. It seems reminiscent of the bigotry we had 50, or 100 years ago. I think he was reacting to that. Making this about race or gender is shameful on her part.
@@plafar7887 it's not about being better. You would not address the president or some high office by anything less then their title. I don't think it was much of him to comply with her request. His reluctance made it appear to be another issue. I don't believe it had to do with race but one could suspect gender played a part.
@@traymillz1644 probably subconscious and old beliefs tho
Good for her standing her ground. She worked for that title and he was jealous she was so well educated. They hate us when we challenge their ignorance.
LOL Those woke PhDs are not real doctorate degrees, medical MDs are the ones who are accomplished, any moron can get a PhD in Woke Studies LOL Unless it's a STEM PhD, it does not count or earn you the title of Doctor
The fact that she was calm and he was aggressive says alot about his character
@steve chu *facepalm*
@steve chu literally no one said "passive aggressive". Learn to read
@steve chu Stupid is as stupid does. You conflate the 'superiority' of going to school (getting an education) with conceit. Do you really disrespect education so much you don't understand the difference? Do you not have any, or are you a hypocrite? Seems like an either/or. "I'm patient with stupidity but not with those who are proud of it." -Edith Sitwell
First And For Most Its Called RESPECT FACTOR!!! Get INTO IT !! 🙄
@steve chu then you should know how hard it is to get a degree. If you go further and do the Doctorate, then he'll yes you earn the right to the title. Don't be mad and bitter because she got hers and wanted her title along with the work. Despite what some think, they really aren't giving those away.
After Dr. Rosario asked to be addressed as Dr.; He said; “ it doesn’t really matter.” So if it doesn’t really matter, why not address her as she asked; as Dr. Rosario? I have a feeling why, and I feel like he knows why. So Sad.
Ikr it's so easy to just call her Doctor and then people go she should have put her name in the chat name or why call her doctor just because she has a doctorate ohh she is insecure like it's public knowledge that a doctorate gives you the title dr.and she is qualified to be called Dr. it's not that hard
@Anthony’s Investments yes but freedom of speech doesn't protect slander so no what he did wasn't right
@@kaverichawhan7767 I'm not sure it's free speech here that is the main concept to wrap the mind around. It's more that we have an accepted standard of behavior around professionals. And this is a meeting with professionals so the commissioner's behavior was inappropriate and unbefitting of a man in his station.
@Anthony’s Investments free speech doesn’t mean freedom from consequences if you’re being disrespectful
@Anthony’s Investments freedom of speech is not freedom of consequence. Freedom of speech does, however, include the freedom to call out a$$holes.
For 40 years I experienced men like this! It was relentless. I am SO glad there is finally a way to bring this into the light. Dr. Rosario, thank you for maintaining your respectful demeanor in standing up to this bully. At last, we are starting to see accountability.
@AppleJuice That's your Doc, he doesn't mind but she does. Respect that! And earning a Doctrine is not " a little thing".
@AppleJuice worse things happen to much less deserving innocent people. he acted like trash n got treated like such, thats just karma.
Why are y’all responding with that troll AppleJuice? Nobody should be saying anything to the fool. Let them converse with themselves.
@@fofotheclown1051 100%. It's a little funny how this UA-cam video in particular and its comments area is packed with trolls...
@AppleJuice come on apple juice, you are smarter than this
If i referred to someone as Mr/Ms/Mrs, and they corrected me with "its Dr," there are literally only two thoughts going on my mind.
1. Duly noted, Dr Soandso
2. Legitimate interest in what their field is, to be asked about later, if appropriate. Cuz i love hearing what people are passionate about
What i DONT think is "how dare you correct me." Or anything similar
People that need to reaffirm a "title" are usually kind of elitist and have inflated egos.
@@Taker02 they worked for the title so 🤷🏻
@@Taker02 Not necessarily, I have a PhD and in most situations I do not insist that my title be used. However, there are certain situations-formal situations such as this one where the use of the title is appropriate.
His attempt to disrespect her title, is obviously because he’s so painfully intimidated by her. Well done, Dr. Rosario!
She asked respectfully, he should have called her how she wanted.
@Stone Rockwell well he got kicked off of the commission for a reason. I bet you the next time he will think twice about the words he choose to come out of his mouth moving forward.
@Stone Rockwell You do realize Martin Luther King Jr. had a Doctorate in Systematic Theology, right?
@Stone Rockwell Her "doctrine", says the lying Trumpist who likely didn't finish high school.
@Stone Rockwell I think you should do YOUR research.
"But the city council voted unanimously to drop him from the commission". I love happy endings.
I have a feeling that they've had many issues with him in the past. Overall, he just seems like a disrespectful person -- period. This particular zoom meeting was probably the final straw for the commission.
I doubt they dropped him about THIS issue. They wanted him gone period!😂🤣😂
Actually he was reinstated after having lawyers get involved
She handled this situation very well. She remained calm, respectful, and poised. Total queen!
Much respect! I would not have been so cool, calm, and collected.
She isn't a doctor though, so he was right. Just because she wants to be called a doctor doesn't mean anything lol.
@@daniyalbbd5281 Your diminished comment speaks volumes about your person, diminished.
@@roseyposey6129 cmon now will you cry BLM and riot ?? Bring it on Dr. 😂😂😂
@@daniyalbbd5281 she actually started for her doctorate degree in 2011. She got it in 2016, so she is like what we like to call a D-O-C-T-O-R. I figured I could spell it out for you because you don't actually seem to have a connection with intelligence.
She is a Dr. of Public Health which gives even more reason why she should have been acknowledged as Dr. given the reason for the meeting.
I'm a teacher and the highest degree I have is called a Specialist degree. In the field of education, a Specialist degree is one degree below a doctorate. I chose to stop at a Specialist because the amount of time, work, energy, and money that it would take to achieve a doctorate was more than I was willing to take on. So I can say, if I had continued, in a professional setting, I would definitely want to be called Dr.
And yet so many doctors chose that route because they wouldn't take on the time and energy, money and whaterver you did as a teacher....
How did they earn any more respect than you for doing what they liked and wanted?
@@JokerInk-CustomBuilds ummm pretty sure there are people with PhD's who have taken on the "energy, money, and whatever." You know the personal narrative of everyone who has gotten a PhD
@@mantra24 pretty sure every person does whatever they can to succed in life...
Ok Jill
Getting a doctorates degree is not expensive. It does take time, but we are in quarantine and my mother is doing a brilliant job at managing her school work and her personal life. Also, she has a scholarship because of her college grades and her master's degree grades. So, dont worry. Your doctorate degree might be like 4 years or 3. It doesnt take 9 years because you arent trying to be an actual doctor.
Wow.. what a tiny man he is.. 🙄 kudos to the doctor! 👏👏
Is that your pic?
His "Sorry" was more like "Sorry you feel that way" than a true apology. What a jerk! I'm glad he was fired. Sounds like he also didn't want to fix the problem she was bringing to his attention in that meeting, so in addition to calling her what she didn't want to be called he was completely useless in his job!
His inflated wht male ego was not going to allow him to acknowledge a blk woman who is a doctor and clearly more educated than him. I'm sure he calls her other choice words as well.
@Me me good for you, you want a cookie now ? 🤣
@Jesus loves a Shovelhead ok and I’d address you as sexist and there’s nothing you can do about it
I'm loving this Consequence Culture, and I mean that without sarcasm. We should all be held accountable for our actions but some people aren't used to that. *cough* old white men *cough*
👏🏻👏🏻 they've had everything their own way for so long they actually feel like they're victims for being called out on their disrespectful actions and words. Consequence culture is a very good term.
And women. Don't forget jk rowling and all those oligarcha who signed a "petition" against cencel culture. Good forbid they're treated same as other have been historically treated by whites
Careful they might call you woke or an SJW. Like it's a bad thing.
has anybody thought of a video yet?…
"I'm talking about Consequence Culture NOT the politicians Cancel Culture"
???
ditto
In this context, when you're asking people about their expertise, the correct appellation is important. It's even more disrespectful that he dug his heels in. Like dude, she corrected you, don't turn it into a debate. You're not Holden Caulfield.
@Eduardo Babyhands She specializes in public health I'm pretty sure.
@Eduardo Babyhands You must be blind or ignorant, because it was written clearly in the video that she has a PhD in Public Health. Good PUBLIC drinking water is essential to Public Health, which is her expertise.
@Eduardo Babyhands lmao "hUr dUr a DeGrEe In PuBLiC hEaLth HaS nOtHinG tO dO wItH cLeAn dRinKinG wAtEr"
trump also has no business being president. but you guys voted him in anyway.
@Eduardo Babyhands she has a doctorate in public health. they are discussing public health. what you basically just said was (for an example): someone with a doctorate in teaching is irrelevant and does not specialize in teaching a english class. Like mr sir just say you hate women and go.
Seriously
I love when people stand up for themselves and don't back down. My anxiety makes me shut down and avoid confrontation.
Only you can decide to change that. You are enough.
Sometimes
Happens to me,too! Be strong!!!
It takes practice to learn to stand up for yourself. I used to have the same problem. Try practicing with a friend you can trust. The important thing is to get your point across while being respectful. Never allow someone to get you so upset you come out of character. You can do it.
Same!! I’m trying to be intentional about it now.
Oh well. This guy was definitely old enough to know better. Good for her for standing up for herself.
I left a protestant denomination (that had its roots in the south) when among other things I learned they sincerely debated ever addressing a woman with the term Doctor, no matter what her background - b/c that was "giving authority to women".
After she corrected him about her title his ego would not let him address her the way she asked. This is a great example of how easy your ego can destroy your life im a quick second
Sorry, but Do you mean "in a quick second"?
@@mattthewanderer5029 do you not understand the comment if they don’t clarify? The n key is beside the m key. This is a youtube comment. 🙄
Facts. I have to check myself everyday.
People be on ego trips, and always want to be correct. Vs just saying I’m sorry dr. Rasiro he wants to go on a ego trip, feeling like she can’t correct him. He’s very unprofessional, definitely would hate to work under a person like that.
@@iwouldliketoorderanumber1b79 It was her ego that made her insist upon being called DR. When did it become law that the very one with a doctorate must be addressed as DR?
I have a bachelor's of Science degree in Computer Engineering and a Master's of science in the same. Phd is not easy. Respect anyone who has something to teach you. As everyone knows something you don't, respect everyone. Especially when someone literally (academically) knows more than you.
Think Dr. Rosario taught him plenty! The first being, don’t mess with me you sorry excuse for a human being!
Those PhDs and masters don’t make you right and the captive of truth though, your whole basis of knowledge may be completely wrong, many scientists especially have discovered that is so, so it’s more about respectfully speaking to the person when that is appropriate.
When that dude said "it doesn't really matter", you know he is intentionally downing her. 🤣🤣. He got a major ding afterwards.
...."it doesn't really mater"...because your black & a woman, that what he really was expressing.
Bro mad a black person got a doctorate degree before him🤣
@@nofeelings3489 bro seemed upset she had a doctorate before em🤣
@@feldecat2x800 if he doesn’t have a doctorate then it totally makes sense why he’s mad 😂
I earned an M.A. So you can call me Master Hutton.
He's running zoning, a developer is contaminating the water... I bet he took a bribe from the developer. No wonder he doesn't want to use the "Dr." title, it would give her more credibility. It should be easy enough to request his finances in an investigation.
Its the "Hey Carrie" for me ...Tony has a serious problem!
😂😂
I love how she stood up for herself even though she shouldn’t have been put in the position to have to.
What's worse is that someone did the same thing earlier and they corrected themselves but Tony must not have been paying attention during that portion of the call.
Yes, good for her standing up to him. She showed who the better person was. You go DOCTOR Rosario.
That's not being a better person, that's just making a mountain over a mole-hill.
Definitely not the first time. I’ll bet she’s been standing up to bigots from the first day of medical school.
Edit. Since graduate school. Thank you Dr Linda C 😊
@@ronj9933 it doesn't make him a bigot he's just calling her by her name. Dr. Or Mrs. Are both acceptable titles. She's mad that he didn't call her Dr.? Get over it
When he gave that pathetic apology "I'm sorry", she says it's okay quietly to end the issue but he went further. Going so far as to call her by her first name to make a point of being a dic-, I mean difficult person.
@R B Sweeting You don't know he's a racist. Stop making serious accusations like this without all the facts.
@@geraldinesleijpen5504 He's a racist...get over it
@@gregorypollard5908 But his actions weren't outwardly racist, so you can't claim he's racist without knowing the facts. So you get over that.
Geraldine. What facts do you think are missing? Why else would it be so hard for him to address her the way she deserves and politely asked to be called? Not to mention, in a professional setting where her expertise in Public Health is important. He's racist and sexist... Obviously. Any thoughts? Don't worry, I'll wait.
@@geraldinesleijpen5504 people like this jack hold can't because they're stuck on stupid
Love how she remained calm and didn’t back down.
"..Mrs Rosario..."
"It's Dr Rosario"
"OH, OK. Sorry 'bout that... Dr Rosario."
wow, that was easy
It said several people were getting it wrong, I would guess some of them heard it the first time the first person got it wrong... unbelievable.
Some people would rather make things difficult for no reason....and humankind is better off without them
Right? The ego of this man.
@@nicklang7670 If they were on Zoom (or is that ZOOM?) maybe the others weren't bothering to listen, maybe for the same reasons he won't call her by her correct title.
@@wandasetzer1469 huh
The other commissioners should have spoken up during the meeting, not when it was over.
They may have been in shock or disbelief that that had really just happened and taken a while to process it. They'll be better prepared the next time it happens in their presence (I hope).
Absolutely! My thoughts exactly! Just like when good cops do nothing to stop or report bad cops, that makes them BAD cops! This rot of racism needs to end and only when others SPEAK UP in its face will it end.
In polite company, open hostility (started by the racist man in this case) rarely happens and is severely frowned upon. I'm pretty sure everyone was just too shocked to react.
That was hardly a 'micro' aggression. That was aggressive AF!
They meant micro as in its a small thing out of a bunch of others that happened to a huge number of people every day
Bruh listen to her talking points and you'll see why he didn't call her Dr 😭 plus she didn't register her name with Dr. On PURPOSE. People forget that there are standards of identification in professional settings especially concerning opposing counsel 🤦♂️
Agree! That was aggressive AF!
@@robbiejohnston9409 so youre attempting to rationalize someone not referring to a professor with a doctorate as a doctor, because you dont agree with her talking points? and saying that she purposely did it doesnt mitigate anything he’s done, correcting someone when they misunderstood is completely acceptable, the issue was his inability to respect her. maybe have some empathy?
@@babygirl-nl4im She knew exactly what she was doing
"It's Dr. Evil! I didn't spend six years in Evil Medical school to be called Mister, thank you very much." 1997 classic movie.
Exactly! Earning a Doctorate Degree, whether it's public health or villainy, is hard work
It's tough to tell if the disrespect was because Dr. Rosario was female or because she was black. My guess is that he has a history of disrespecting people in both groups. So happy that he was ousted for his rudeness!
The audacity for him to say "Hi Carrie" after she very politely told him she was a doctor. Did he really think that apology voicemail would get him off the hook?
I'm sure he did, they've gotten away with disrespect for so long.
But in 2021;
The times they are a changing!
This is why they complain so much about 'PC culture'. People have never been okay with being treated like this, its not new. They simply got to live in a culture that catered only to them for far too long.
Yes, he immediately disrespected her further by saying that. A human being would have corrected himself, not going even lower.
@@rebeccan7276 Definitely. Absolutely. 👆🙌
she even had a phd for crying out loud..it literally stands for Doctor of Philosophy
He was so jealous of her, and he continued to not call her doctor, on purpose. He's disgusting and I am glad she spoke up. The other people were cowards, for not saying something, while the meeting was going on.
They could have been muted since it wasn't their turn to talk.
@@tj-wy7mj If I mentioned racism, take that out of the equation. He didn't respect her.
@@tj-wy7mj Act respectful or go home. That is why he is gone.
@@tj-wy7mj they seemed to be talking about the quality of the water for the neighborhood, and he, being the local official, was dismissive about that as well. So... if her request that day was annoying to him, then it's even worse, that would make him not only systemic racist, jealous and disrespectful, but also a selfish, greedy soab.
Free speech is a right. That means he can call her whatever he wants and theres nothing you can do about it
This is amazing. Make people say your name. Make people use your titles when applicable. These are lessons I'm trying to teach my daughter.
She’s Black. She’s a woman. She’s a doctor and he cannot stand it. What a pathetic, insecure, and emasculated little thing he is. ✊🏾🦋🖤
Best observation of this video
yea, bring up race everytime
@@aamaravel2493 yeah most of the time it is bcuz of race
And now an unemployed one!
Unless a medical dr not a real dr. That's just a medical thing
I am a fan of Dr rosario already. The elegance and clarity with which she spoke and carried herself throughout this entire episode is commendable. Would like to know about her more. Her students are lucky i must say.
I'm proud of her for standing up for herself and laying out an example of how all others should speak up for themselves.
@logic like liberals who say rand paul instead of doctor paul????
@@juandoe985 Rand Paul says Rand Paul 🤦🏾♀️
@@blkchld1 he actually refers to as Doctor as well you just proved my point and are no better than white dude in vid.
@@elsikpych of course I’m better than him. If somebody asked me to call them by a more professional name I wouldn’t have any problem with it, so I’m actually not proving your point
@@blkchld1 you called doctor paul rand though hes a doctor....geesh the irony.....call him doctor if you dont ur no better than that man.....and biden voted racist bills btw so did bernie democrats are not your friend-malcom X
He was just offended she wasn't referring to his title- 'grand wizard'.
😭😭😭😭😭
and they say facts over feelings when in truth his feelings got in the way of facts.