A lot of the older points style distributors had a resistor wire so they don't get 12v at the coil while running. There was a bypass wire that came from the starter to apply 12v while cranking. Good find on the 12v ign wire.
No problem, I'm used to the older stuff, trying my hand at LS with the Terminator now. Probably should have done a stock motor for my first one, 408 with a healthy cam and Bosch 210's and can't get it to idle. Keep posting the videos, it helps us learn.
I can hear the fuel pump sucking air, if you want solid fuel pressure without air bubbles interruption and quiet the fuel pump, install Holley hydramat in the tank, what mpg is the car getting now???
Neat video, I am considering a 2 bbl version for a 67 Impala... couple of comments.. Ran the fuel lines alongside the muffler...! No start up on the video... no MPG as promised....
@@clearedhot6146 So far so good, all went well, except I damaged the TPS sensor and need to replace, one came in yesterday. I really question getting married to a two barrel manifold....
Hagerty did a video on a 302 redline. it made 30hp more, but he believe the carb wasn't perfect. so he believes you can make a carb to have as much power, which is true. just the reliability, easy start of efi is the huge advantage. he didnt use the computer controlled timing, so he could possibly gain a little more there.
That car is SO awesome!! Love the install!! Great job you guy’s!! Hey just watched the whole vid, quick question: care to share which was the circuit you guys used for the signal? I have a ‘70 Nova as well and jumping into the final wiring at this very moment (buddy is helping out as i am sooooo NOT into wiring lol!!) Anyway’s, ‘figured id try and make up a bit of time on his help by asking you guy’s since you just got out of it. So, i know ive seen that there is a fused “Ignition” prong /circuit, with an available, ready to plug onto, Male connector. Since you reffered to it (i think?) in the video, i just wanted to confirm if that was the one that did the job? Looking forward to the turbo install on that car!! 😉🏁😁
They don't recommend this as they don't consider it a clean single. We tried it with switching a relay but it output a full 12v to switch the relay it was more like 7-8. Ended up going straight to the key and that worked best!
The 72 Chevy should run fine with a properly adjusted carburetor. It was only later with more and more pollution controls that cars surged and spit and sputtered. While injection might run a little smoother, at full throttle the carburetor usually makes more power.
You definitely loose the adjustability of timing. Depending on what your doing it could definitely be a big disadvantage. On a swap like this though the driveability still is much better!
Sadly from 2030 on all combustion cars including classics will be banned from public streets in entire EU and Scandinavia :-( In Germany the Green Peoples Party gave order to shorten fuel supply from 2025 on by reducing all conventional fuel stations to only one state operated central gas station per city or county. Now they even want to slow down all the gas pumps from 20 litre per minute to 2 litre per minute...From 2027 on in the EU certain car spare parts will be banned too....as exhaust systems, turbo chargers and even some engine and gearbox oils...California and New York will do the same from 2027 on.... So no investments should be done in oil burning cars any longer....They even created a new kind of crime here, called emissions and smoke crime. Called "Bundesabgasbespaßungsverbotsverordnung" in German.... :-/
What's scary here is seein' all that coolant lyin' in the lifter galley! What's wrong w/THAT picture?! Do we have a failed water jacket somewhere? What's the end of the dipstick look like? What would've been a lot more professional is to ACTUALLY tape the work being done (for viewer's benefit), instead of zoom shooting the narrator's mug every step of the way! What's the point of THAT?! Nowhere near the hands-on, step-by-step informative video I'd hoped it was going to be.
More of a vlog then a how to. There is a bit more in depth info on Motion Raceworks YT page where this was broke into 3 videos. The coolant in the lifter galley is from the intake being removed
Efi is the way to go..I have a 69 nova running efi and I love it
Heck yeah! Nice!
Cool video, Doug is rad, must be great to work for!
Thanks George! It's pretty awesome for sure!
Was there an improvement on the fuel economy?
Haven't had a chance to double check it. Power steering line and some bad rain stopped us from being able to drive it back.
@@BuildTuneRace how bout now
The people want to know! 😁
A lot of the older points style distributors had a resistor wire so they don't get 12v at the coil while running. There was a bypass wire that came from the starter to apply 12v while cranking. Good find on the 12v ign wire.
Thanks for the info! Definitely my first time messing with this stuff lol
No problem, I'm used to the older stuff, trying my hand at LS with the Terminator now. Probably should have done a stock motor for my first one, 408 with a healthy cam and Bosch 210's and can't get it to idle. Keep posting the videos, it helps us learn.
That was going to be my question as well, whether or not it has a ballast resistor or resistor wire in-line to the coil.
Just put one on my K5. Totally awesome 👌
Cool video man!!
Thanks!
I can hear the fuel pump sucking air, if you want solid fuel pressure without air bubbles interruption and quiet the fuel pump, install Holley hydramat in the tank, what mpg is the car getting now???
Nice. I just picked one up, I went with the ignition too. The plan is to use the sniper to control a 100 shot. Should be fun.
Nice! Heck yeah that will be awesome!
So what was the car getting mpg on way back to airport?
Good video guy
Thanks!
Did u cut à hole in the gas tank?
So what was the fuel mileage diffrence almost 19 with carb but what was the efi mileage???
Did I miss him saying what the fuel economy was after the EFI swap?
Just curious... why didnt you put the 2bbl holley on instead of the 4bbl?
good video my brother....what kind of dog is that looks like a boxing havent seen one of them in a long time dog looks good....
it still has the ORIGINAL BIAS PLY TIRES on it and you're Fin around with FUEL INJECTION?
Yea idk what that is about?!
On the aeromotive fuel tank which one did you use the 200 lph or the 340
We used the 340!
@@BuildTuneRace so the holly is 650 max why not use the 200 lph when the max on that is also 600 ? Is it better to use the 340
Is 340 over kill
When I mean 650 or 600 I’m talking about the max HP rating on the EFI and fuel pump
Need a heat shield between the tank and muffler.
So Could you give a total Cost parts/ And Labor On 4 B Carb Air gap intake ?
What Intake did you use?
I think it was just a holley 4 barrel
any update on the fuel economy?
It was definitely worse with the 4 barrel efi. A better comparison would have been a 2 barrel efi we think
How was the performance compared to the carb, such as cold start, idle, acceleration etc?
Did you buy the holley kit?
Yes the 4150 sniper kit
Fuel mileage?
Does not look all original. SS hood?
So fortunate to find that car.
Neat video, I am considering a 2 bbl version for a 67 Impala... couple of comments.. Ran the fuel lines alongside the muffler...! No start up on the video... no MPG as promised....
Hey, how's your impala coming? I'm currently having one installed along with restoration and hoping its done right.
@@clearedhot6146 So far so good, all went well, except I damaged the TPS sensor and need to replace, one came in yesterday. I really question getting married to a two barrel manifold....
how much for you come install mine
It would be cool to have dyno’ed the car before and after too.
That would have been cool for sure!
Hagerty did a video on a 302 redline. it made 30hp more, but he believe the carb wasn't perfect. so he believes you can make a carb to have as much power, which is true. just the reliability, easy start of efi is the huge advantage. he didnt use the computer controlled timing, so he could possibly gain a little more there.
Are you guys out of Colorado?
Hey Chuck, Yes i am!
@@BuildTuneRace I'm in Colorado too. Where in Colorado are you guys?
Pueblo West. You?
That car is SO awesome!! Love the install!! Great job you guy’s!! Hey just watched the whole vid, quick question: care to share which was the circuit you guys used for the signal? I have a ‘70 Nova as well and jumping into the final wiring at this very moment (buddy is helping out as i am sooooo NOT into wiring lol!!) Anyway’s, ‘figured id try and make up a bit of time on his help by asking you guy’s since you just got out of it. So, i know ive seen that there is a fused “Ignition” prong /circuit, with an available, ready to plug onto, Male connector. Since you reffered to it (i think?) in the video, i just wanted to confirm if that was the one that did the job? Looking forward to the turbo install on that car!! 😉🏁😁
I will stick with carburator on my.classic ..its a kool. experience of the nostalgia..nd not technology ..i already have a 2022 for that
Next should be an electric cooling fan setup ran straight from the sniper built in cooling fan system
19:46 it’s Auto-shop 101 timing light
ON MY 65 GOAT IT WAS THE YELLOW WIRE ON THE IGN SWITCH
Nice!
Hook the trigger wire to the alt wire that powers up with key on.
They don't recommend this as they don't consider it a clean single. We tried it with switching a relay but it output a full 12v to switch the relay it was more like 7-8. Ended up going straight to the key and that worked best!
@@BuildTuneRace I have seen it done hooked to the alt and it worked fine.
The 72 Chevy should run fine with a properly adjusted carburetor. It was only later with more and more pollution controls that cars surged and spit and sputtered. While injection might run a little smoother, at full throttle the carburetor usually makes more power.
adding the Sniper but leaving the Points Distributor kinda does away with half the advantage of EFI over Carburetor, Yes No?
You definitely loose the adjustability of timing. Depending on what your doing it could definitely be a big disadvantage. On a swap like this though the driveability still is much better!
Pretty awesome 👍. Was there an increase in fuel economy as well?
Unfortunately we have not been able to do a after mpg test quite yet
Sadly from 2030 on all combustion cars including classics will be banned
from public streets in entire EU and Scandinavia :-( In Germany the
Green Peoples Party gave order to shorten fuel supply from 2025 on by
reducing all conventional fuel stations to only one state operated
central gas station per city or county. Now they even want to slow down
all the gas pumps from 20 litre per minute to 2 litre per minute...From
2027 on in the EU certain car spare parts will be banned too....as
exhaust systems, turbo chargers and even some engine and gearbox
oils...California and New York will do the same from 2027 on.... So no
investments should be done in oil burning cars any longer....They even
created a new kind of crime here, called emissions and smoke crime. Called "Bundesabgasbespaßungsverbotsverordnung" in German.... :-/
is it me or does he talk like his shaking or scared lol no offence
Me?🤷♂️
Great video....but please stop saying Umm
Ill work on that!😁
Hey man. He's doin a good job. Give em a break!
What's scary here is seein' all that coolant lyin' in the lifter galley! What's wrong w/THAT picture?! Do we have a failed water jacket somewhere? What's the end of the dipstick look like? What would've been a lot more professional is to ACTUALLY tape the work being done (for viewer's benefit), instead of zoom shooting the narrator's mug every step of the way! What's the point of THAT?! Nowhere near the hands-on, step-by-step informative video I'd hoped it was going to be.
More of a vlog then a how to. There is a bit more in depth info on Motion Raceworks YT page where this was broke into 3 videos. The coolant in the lifter galley is from the intake being removed
if you don't drain the cooling system DOWN TO A LEVEL lower than the Intake manifold...then that's what happens when you remove it
@@stephenbratset2164 makes since!
Just tap into the fuse block accessory ignition switch for a full 12 volt source.
I seen the coolant thought same as well