and it's just pure Death Match, which isn't a popular game mode in fps. even COD isn't entirely that, as it had those 'call in'/ kill streak stuff options, or 2v2 duels
Yeah, and the Punisher questline - well basically any quest that involves dressing up like an idiot (Peacekeeping Mission comes to mind), are very annoying to get through because the Devs have pumped up the numbers. Especially when there's a mismatch between required guns and required gear - basically you become a gun donator. In a game where you have so much freedom to craft guns any way you like and similar for gear... lets force you to run a very specific gear set, cuz if you don't your progression stops. I really dislike many of these hyper fixated quests in Tarkov, especially when the kill count is rather unchecked. Shooter Born in Heaven is a good example of where the sheer amount of headshot kills you need is unchecked. 5 headshots with bolt actions for 7 different maps, totaling 35 PMC kills... Luckily it got changed from the 100m requirement and it doesn't gate progression, but it does hinder the easy access to Magazine Cases (aka extra stash space) which is always coveted. Hope you don't suck at bolt actions - oh did I mention that all the mid-tier Sniper Scopes (1x-4/6/8x, Burris, Razer, S&B) cannot be bought from vendors, so you have to rely on Flea market which jacks up the price, especially earlier in the wipe to be just a little shy of the price of some top-tier stock guns?
@@timg4444 Holding angles isn't crabbing. You need to be able to hold angles in a competitive shooter. If not then there's no tactics involved anymore. Also the desync still effects you even if you do spend all your time w shift keying. Besides performance issues like this are unforgivable for a competitive FPS.
@@SirDehumanized or, if you see someone you dip back into cover and then Ferrari peak them instead of standing still like a bot. But hey, enjoy staying in D/C tier with the rest of the shitters lmfao
@@SirDehumanized i mean the main biggest issue that killed it for me was that they added the armor system that created more problems with dysnc. all they really had to do was do class changes and nerfs not these changes at all lol. this is coming from a guy who was b tier with 50 mil
my biggest issue is when i know i dump atleast 10 bullets but in their pov i barely shoot 2. so many momenets where i clearly see sparks flying off helmets but their pov shows i barely ads'd
@@matthewmonast7468 i mean the craziest thing is that they took out bullet over pen meaning the bullet that doesnt have enough pen will not pen that persons armor. thats why when you put a whole clipinto the persons chest and they dont die thats why
For me, immediate turn off was that I wouldn't be able to use my own setup that I've created. Im not playing the game with a extensive gun modding, to run garbage guns that look ugly as fuck and I never would make them irl
I think a big part of arena that isn’t getting talked about is that I have no desire to play it! I’ve heard this from almost all of my friends too. Anyone else experiencing this also?
was so hyped to play it that i was pretty mad when i didnt get in day 1. I got in like day 3 and played all the way till i got Tier 3 HK416 build. I never hopped on again after that. Even in the base game, BSG struggles to give players a reason to pvp.
I have a group of 7 friends that I play EFT with regularly. We all have EOD and none of us got Arena day one. Five of us tried the game once we did get access and noticed the long matching,loading times, preset kits and we all just went straight back to EFT. None of us have touched Arena since. I think that is the case for the vast majority of people who played EFT before Arena. Most just went back to EFT, and the playerbase for Arena has dropped to almost just a handful of players that are willing to grind it out because they didn't really play EFT beforehand to begin with.
Yeh but you need new people at this moment , for 30$ can just look darker and darker is more fun a the devs are making good fixing for the game and updates, here is like the devs dont play the game and just do a poor job. @@Airwingmarine
@@nibbs3842 Well, it is a side project of a game still in beta, got any expectations there's gonna be alot to it? I probably wouldn't have bought it for 40, and i bought tarkovs EOD before the hacking problem became the major issue it is now, nowadays i wouldn't even fuckin think about spending 150 bucks on tarkov. No chance in hell.
i thought arena was gonna be a more relaxed version where i dont care if i lose or die but it turned out to be the complete opposite where I still gotta grind my ass off and worry about money. Too much Tarkov grinding
2 of the 3 arena matches I played this week there was a player (different player each time) that was just TKing at the start of the match. If ranked is the only available game mode then they need to be kicking for TKs.
BSG really missed a big mark on this game they should have just had it be a 3 tier system where you have a set amount of roubles to build a kit in each tier. Maybe also have it where you can build five presets for every tier similar to COD. This would capitalize on one of the biggest things EFT let’s you do which is freedom to customize you kit and load out the way you want
I agree a custom kit experience is what most tarkov players wanted but there’s some problems with it. It’s a balance nightmare. Having to individually balance thousands of items would be a huge undertaking. In tarkov it doesn’t really matter if items aren’t perfectly balanced price wise, ima competitive environment it will, an underpriced item will allow upgrades else where. Plus how do you balance armor vs guns? What if I show up with a just a pistol but it lets me afford tier 5 armor in tier 1 play? What if I forgo armor to bring a vector with Ap. It would be a nightmare to balance. It’s also extremely bad for a new experience. He just talked about the complex mechanics being a barrier of entry, not imagine you can’t just ignore it because you have to build your own kit. Arena is basically only attractive to tarkov players but tarkov players aren’t playing an arena shooter for a reason. We had some fun fights then went back to the og game. You have to make it enticing and fun to people who aren’t already playing tarkov. It should be the game that brings people to Tarkov
@@Average644I feel like a system like something insurgency sandstorm has would work relatively well. Having a certain amount of "points" you can allocate to weapons, mods, armor, etc.
I hate to say "be more like COD" but they've literally perfected the TDM process over decades. Not being able to create our own loadouts is absolutely wild
dsync is a HUGE issue in arena from my experience this wipe. Swinging someone and putting 5 shots into someone and dying then watching the kill cam and i never shot or maybe shot once or twice. or running behind a wall and a sold second later dying to a shot that in the kill cam hit me before i ever got behind the wall. That is what has ruined arena for me this wipe. BSG made great improvements while still missing many issues
Can somebody explain to me why I can't use unlocked presets? I'm doing something wrong??? Or do I need to do something additional to play with open presets???... please...many thanks in advance...P.S. for example under scout presets O open complete tier 1 under tier 2 I opened half of them but can't play with none of them ,do I need to open complete tier 2 to play with any presets of tier 2 or what??
Very good video as usual, kinda caught me by surprise since I’ve been having a blast with arena recently and I feel like most of these issues are only a problem for less experienced players, my best suggestion would be a system that shows what med to use In your hot bar when you start bleeding or break a limb etc. that and have an info page showing what items do what in the menu
I was doing a match and cleanup crew was chasing someone from the opposite team. One of the cleanup crew threw a nade at someone and the entire crew including the one who threw the nade all ran strait to the nade and blew themselves up
I just started in early 2021 for playing tarkov before the inertia patch, i that moment people says arena gonna be awesome , and 3 years later is sucks. We look arena for play free or just fast pvp agresive but instead you get a bad mm // mmr system // desync // the new "hitbox" is really trash for arena and people dont want to play a game for being holded in every round . Marksmans is dogshit for leveling up, poor magazines, shitty scopes, ammo trash vs UMP chad shift w with 25 bullets . Nobody wants to pick sawhills because is so bad. they put so much money for having 300 people watching on twitch i just rather just fix tarkov .
I think there should be less inertitia in Tarkov and Arene. The game needed inertia but not this mess. Everybody is camping and the immersion is totally gone.
The biggest reason to me for why i stopped playing Arena is the grinding. Grinding can be fun, but Tier 1 kits were never fun to use. And the only ones that remotely felt good got nerfed. If arena is meant to be fun, BSG needs to let people run what they like. Edit : A solution i think would be good is : Let people unlock 7 kits of every tier for free, then any exp earned counts for ALL KITS in the same tree. Lower tier kits give +10% exp for tier 2, and +25% for tier 1. (N.B. for this to work, all kits can be unlocked regardless of if you unlocked the previous one. You can also choose one kit in every tree that will recieve +50% progress compared to other kits.) (Also, on the subject of collection kits : running them should give every preset in the game 70% exp (total is actually 87.5% becase of the tier 1 bonus, and 122.5% for kits chosen to get +50% exp for Rizhy)) Edit 2 : If you guys want to talk about what you think is wrong with arena, use the reply section
Blows my mind that they have grinding at all in their "arena shooter". I have no interest whatsoever in playing Tarkov-lite. I'll just play the regular game if I have to go through bs with unbalanced kits to unlock things.
@@smockytubers1188 It would be fun if we got to actually use the gunbuilding aspect of tarkov for our kits, instead we get some stupid ass loadouts with bad setups and unfun ttk/hitreg. Can't tell you the number of times I dumped 13 rounds of pst into a guy with the mp5 or vityaz kit only to die in 2 shots even against when they have no armor in the areas im shooting, its just horribly balanced and there is NO customization(oh did I mention you cant have 2 people use the same kit? so even if you unlock one you like someone can just take it before you and now you waited god knows how long to use a completely different kit that you probably dont even like)
I liked what you said about “walking” the player into the mechanics. They should give tier 1 effectively small 1-2slot grizzlies and painkillers. Then one button fixes both bleeds and breaks. Tier 2 split it up more, maybe an AFAK but now you have splints. Tier 3 you get bandages and tourniquet ect. Which mechanic you walk in could change. But this way a simple pop up graphic of “now that you’re tier 2 you have more to worry about, you’ll have to fix your own broken arms” would do, and by the time you get through the tier you’ll understand that step and be ready for the next one. Arena having specific items unique to it for the sake of learning or streamlining is probably something they should consider in general. It would make balance a lot easier and it would be easier to understand.
What made me stop playing arena after the wipe was that it felt so much worse than eft. Healing made no sound, took longer, everythinf had a diffetrent look to it graphically and the desync I usually avoid by fighting long ranges just cant be avoided there.
I will say, the early wipe fun is much more than it was back in 2019. My issue these days, is the same de-sync, sound, netcode issues that were around 3 years ago… All that on top of quests that are just… see Leviticus’s vid he posted today, unnecessarily grindy… it’s not fun having to sit in one spot for 30 mins waiting for scavs to spawn in a super specific location only for you to accidentally kill them 5ft from the arbitrary, and poorly drawn, boundary around where it’s acceptable to kill them. And btw, if you wanna use a “lore” excuse, how tf do any of the traders know you actually killed them 5ft away from where they asked you to? They have cameras or something?
Yeah, man. I reported 6x for cheating this wipe. Mostly on GZ. 2 I got the confirmed message. The others were chads super kitted in the teen levels on GZ? Freaking griefers get Lost & go play each other on labs, man. Sick of that. I'm struggling to learn a new map & quests here. Sheesh. Then I keep getting head or neck shot thru brush byscavs I can't see? F off Nikita, Ya sadist. It's Not Fun. Turn that switch OFF.
@Airwingmarine , the obdolbos does technically say it on info tab, but you have to really read into it, it says -600 health per second on one of the lines, ;)
It says it on the og menu info tab, but not on the new ui info screen that most people will look at. It is also convoluted. As you point out, it doesn't straight up tell you it will kill you.
If you dont want to overhaul the healing system they could make a custom item like a 1 slot grizzly with a reduced usage time to unify the med system, add a 30 second to 1 minute painkiller effect aura on match start. BSG also has the ability to tweak or remove how much damage bleeds blacked limbs do etc so there are plenty of levers to pull to adjust how they want the game to play. Personally I think Arena lacks a clear direction, if they allowed custom free for all or TDM loadouts so you can test stuff before using it in the main game and a true just free for all tarkov pvp experience that would be one thing but this mish mash quasi competitive experience has no direction and lacks a clear focus in terms of balance.
Arena should’ve been COD style leveling up and unlocks, as well as modes where you respawn. No idea why they decided to go with presets and a no-respawn mode. All we wanted was cod with Tarkov movement and gunplay, as well as kit customization.
I’ve noticed the desync/hitreg issue is pretty big in the base game as well as of late. Had 3 separate occasions yesterday alone of a clear headshot landing, a blood splatter on the wall behind them, I die and my shot isn’t counted in the post-raid screen. Anyone else experiencing this or is it something on my end
Tarkov has ALWAYS had a lag issue, the game server is almost always 1000-2000ms ahead of your client, and who knows how far ahead or behind the other players you are. The higher your ping the worse this gets as it just adds to the issue. Arena really showcases the lag though because you'll light someone up on your side with no packet loss and stable ping, see blood all over the wall behind them, get killed by them and in the kill cam they were actually one second ahead of you and were already shooting you before you shot at all. It becomes very aggravating. This is how base game always is as well you just notice it less because there's more going on in base game to worry about than counting the rough MS between your actions and theirs. Been playing since the Closed Beta for base game launched, so this is a core engine issue that hasn't been fixed for years.
This is one of the best vids giving an honest critique on arena. I solo queue all the time and it os noticeably more difficult, I enjoy Tarkovs pvp, as sketch as it is in arena I still go in because I just personally need the back to back fights to improve. Everything you said I agree with 100%. The only reason I dont play main game like I used to is because of time constraints. I do hope they continue to improve things.
On the point of people not accepting matches more often since the patch I think it’s largely a result of having to pick 3 maps minimum. If you get a map selected that you don’t want to play you just let it time out and it rerolls the map.
Will admit to doing this. Previously, I would only matchmake in Bay 5 and Equator, unless I was trying to level up marksman, and then I would play bowl. Won't play the plane map and will not play sawmill. Now chop shop is a thing, and it suits the classes I use but is frustrating to play. Sorry to everyone trying to get in a game, BSG made me lie about which maps I'm willing to play. 🤷♂️
Just an FYI Airwing, You can see what plates the armor for any locked and unlocked preset. You just have to click the eye above the magnifying glass and hover over the armor icon. It will tell you what plates are in the armor. It doesn't tell you the level plates they are but I'm sure you would be able to tell by just seeing the name of the armor.
BSG did give out a Collection character during the drops with the new wipe of arena (Deputy - Assault Class). They do need to do more with this and actually make them more special than just a meme
Something that would be extremely helpful for newbies and the med situation would be having a grizzly on every class hot keyed to 4. Keep all the stims and pk's too but that easy 1 button heal would be great and easy to learn.
I had a match where most of the enemy team left and I got no XP for the match even though I was forced to play the remainder of the rounds. Like WTF why do I get punished when the other team leaves?
It took me ages to get into matches the other night. Also, I got a warning to not team kill near the start of the match one round, even though I hadn’t fired any guns and in fact was killed by my own team
I wouldn't go that far. It's still very rough around the edges. In a year or so when there is enough content then yes. BSG should be worried because they will be stealing a large part of their player base.
there is also a glitch in que when ur in a party sometimes everyone but one or two people will get the match accept button and it will just say Matching for them
BSG absolutely should NOT take out any of the complex mechanics of Tarkov from Arena. They aren't holding the game back, BSG failing to include anything that resembles a tutorial is the issue. They just offloaded the responsibility to content creators.
The med times need to be reduced at least by 25% at most by 50%. Waiting several seconds to bandage or splint can be the difference between winning a fight, escaping or just getting headshot while you're stuck in an animation. This is coming from an 8-9k hrs player.
@@RexhunterjI have to disagree there, using meds in close contact is always dangerous in tarkov and should continue to be in arena. Especially since it's a team based game. Being able to med up in a fight is something that should be based on good team play and quick planning, not just making it so fast the enemy can't react and take advantage. Especially since the enemy has already won part of that advantage by inflicting the damage in the first place, making it faster would be a crutch.
I feel both sides of this as a veteran player. Maybe they dont have to change any of the mechanics if they can use others to bypass them. In regards to heal times and even kit balancing they could slap all kits with propitols or etgs. Could simplify a ton while still holding the games integrity @@sometoastxd
Yeah, removing what makes tarkov tarkov is a brain dead solution. Would some whiners come back to play a butchered version of arena? Sure. But I and many others wouldn’t even bother.
I 100% agree to lower the time on some meds enough to make a quick decision to heal but not enough for someone to not push off of that 15-25% easy. I don't want a broken leg that I can't decide to fix cuz it's a huge detriment in that combat scenario.
Instead of relying solely on the preset system for progression, they could implement a tier-based equipment system where players must purchase gear with in-game currency, possibly requiring payment each time they use it (money would be crucial in comparison to now). Equipment would be categorized into tiers, with each piece having a point value assigned to it (e.g., M4 = 10 points, Elcan = 40 points). Players would have a limited number of points for their loadout, with higher tiers having a higher point pool. Players would unlock gear through their overall level or by completing quests and challenges, purchasing items from in-game traders. Introducing in-game events and quests could add variety to gameplay. Tier-based daily or weekly quests could incentivize players to revisit lower tiers even after reaching higher levels. If players run out of currency, they could fall back on preset loadouts as a backup or for cost-saving purposes. Implementing more dynamic systems like these could offer alternatives to repetitive preset grinding.
It's a known thing but my voip still doesn't work so I cannot communicate with teammates if I wanted to. I know normally these things are user error but it's not this time
@Airwingmarine I tried to watch this but about 12 minutes in the video was canceled and I had to wait another 5 minutes of ads to watch again for it to only happen again and I have UA-cam red...
I had a match play through to completion the other day, where one of my teammates disconnected round 2 and another went afk from round 2 to 5. It played to the end and we obviously lost. During that match I had flashbacks to all the matches I'd played that WERE cancelled, often noting that I didn't get a notification anyone had left. That shit is frustrating.
I love how people rightfully complained about the exp grind so they made it take less exp to unlock presets but then required you to have 5 tier 2 and 3 presets to play the respective playlists
TEAMMATES NEED TO HAVE THE COLORED ARMBANDS FOR EASIER SOLO Q CALLOUTS, LIKE COUNTER-STRIKE COLORS!!!!!!! (BLUE, GREEN, WHITE, YELLOW, etc.) please make opposite team always have red armbands. as some one who has almost 4k hours in tarkov and i myself have a hard enough time with team recognition in arena. can imagine someone who just started playing.
he mean like the colors dont change per game your always blue and the enemy is always red like how Battlefield does it@@eren_jeager132 i just say get goodXD
Personally, I think the balance is almost perfect for tier one. There are a few notable exceptions of kits that may need to be tweaked a bit, but even some of the "high" tier one kits aren't that much better compared to the rest (only major exception is marksman kits, imo they should all have some form of headset). However, my personal issue with the game is the toxicity between players and the high rate of teamkilling. This is mostly due to someone not remembering what team they're on because they have played so many matches and it gets hard to remember which color you are. This then leads to miscommunication and ultimately teams fighting at the beginning of the match. Two simple solutions: 1. Put a colored wristband on the left arm to quickly remind you what team you are on. Most times your left wrist is on your screen so this would be an immersive way to remind people what team they are on without checking their inventory. 2. Block the ability to shoot at the beginning of the match before the announcer counts down to zero. There is absolutely NO reason why we should be able to shoot before the gates open.
The root issue is we love tarkov because you can make the gun of your dreams and then go use it in pvp/pve, we have ZERO control of what builds we get to choose from, HIRED OPS is literally better at this than arena and it NEEDS to change. I have 7500 hours in tarkov and the only reason I pushed that far was because there are so many different builds for guns like the M4A1(even more now that recoil isnt so finnicky) me being able to pick my sight/grip/muzzle options isnt going to make or break the game and could easily just be balanced by loadout costs that are seemingly pointless atm
I also noticed if I accidently shoot a teammate they die the way id expect them too, but for some reason when shooting enemies, it takes the whole damn mag.
Same issue, with a 200+mb/s Internet connection. A lot of it is desync, exacerbated by their (I'm pretty sure of this) client-based damage output. It's the servers going "Actually, they weren't in that place you just shot, but by the way, I just got word they killed you 3 seconds ago." That's why people coming around corners have so much time to shoot you before you see them, because they peaked you long before the server told you so. That same server will show others exactly where you are if you're 1) stationary, or 2) running fast internet.
@@shaunnormandy I have the best net I can for where I live, And I am rarely Stationary for long. I prefer the more aggressive play style, but also a tactile one. I honestly only have this issue with Tarkov, and Apex.
@@JMECK yeah, the only game I've played where it's been this bad is mw2. And that game was deleted. Not sure if it's because of all the additional calculations the servers are running atop the usual positioning and health/damage, or if the netcode is just that terrible, but it seems to only be of benefit if your connection is slow. The price of excellence I guess lol
22:58 The first time I played Arena, I kept trying to click the "BUY PRESET" text at the top of the screen and completely missed the "BUY" button at the bottom of the screen. I know I'm an idiot, but I'm not the only one.
For the tiers - make the first tier only the "base" kits. The other tiers can have more of a spread, but at the first tier all of the kits should be relatively equal. In fact, make the requirement for the second tier unlocking the first second tier kit in each of the classes.
Great video, pretty much sums up my feeling on the game. I had some people ask if they should try Arena not having played EfT and I said categorically no, and there is nothing indicating they ever should. Buy EfT? Yes, and then learn the systems if they want to. This game, whatever they do to fix it for experienced EfT players, is dead on arrival with the current systems for new players. Yes they can go search EfT wiki's/guides but that is just a cop-out for a company developing this kind of game and expecting new players to enter it. I am getting some fun during peak times when the matchmaking is more well rounded, and find my games to be pretty decent with minimal "stomps." Once outside of these times the game goes to hell... very one sided games and even what appear to be very suspect players in each lobby. On top of this a low player pool where I see the same players a few times if I play 5 or 6 games. The dysnc issue is the worst I've seen, maybe even worse then in EfT in the past. I honestly don't even trust what I see now, and I expect when I am getting good games with lots of kills the enemy is getting desync from me. I've turned off the game (after the match finishes) many times after seeing my shots, which were fired first on my screen, no register or only register a few hits. Or I die around a corner. Or I die not shooting going around a corner (when I did). You said it best, this will kill the game no matter what else BSG will do, but I do not believe they can fix it as it seemed just baked into the BSG code/setup at this point. I don't see myself playing past getting tier 2 loadouts and trying a few, the grind is just too much to try and get into tier 3. I am getting my combat fix and it has helped me in EfT but I have little interest in dealing with BSG thinking they have time to develop this game over years like EfT. I don't want to spend much time on a game that I feel will eventually be dead.
played arena for about 75 matches (mainly solo occasionally duo) so far and its either my team is getting rolled 0-5 or im hard carrying a close game 5-4 where i need a break afterwards.
You know what throws me off the most? I have died more than 10 times from 1 damage 1 hit from near full to full hp. On the flip side after I've died it showed I've done 0 damage with 0 hits multiple times as well, which wouldn't be an issue except the fact that it shouldn't even register that there was no damage done if I missed entirely. So I can only conclude that I hit the guy on my screen, but because of my setup due to lag or fps issues or whatever it may be, I missed server side and was already dead on the other players screen because of desync. It's like I'm constantly stuck in the past. It's super frustrating because I cannot consistently win because of this
@@DasInf13 the ‘0 hit 0 dmg’ thing is just buggy, can’t be used to judge no hit reg. I’ve shot at people and know I missed them (bullets hit a solid surface/my aim was off) and it’s shown both nothing and also 0hit/0dmg. It’s just buggy af. When it shows no hits and you see their body recoil…that’s no hit reg.
@know1nose971 it's just so weird because it feels like you're constantly 1 to 2 seconds behind everyone else but you don't know until you watch the death screen and really throws you off. It's like ok so I'm already dead on the enemies screen when I see him turn the corner and start firing and that's why it's doing that? Or is it just that for me it's bad hit reg. I honestly don't understand it because I've never played a game with this sort of feature before. If I had it was never this noticable
@@DasInf13 with everyone else reporting the low latency or packet loss symbol constantly, the server ticks are terribly slow / the lag is making the difference in player to sever communication.
Tiers should be the same as save/buy rounds in CS2. You pick from tier 1 for "pistol rounds" and get up to tier 3 after a couple wins for "buy rounds" with tier 2 being the most used middle ground kits. Picking one tier/kit for the whole game just has no counter play or balancing options
I think there should be tiers, but it should be monetary and xp based. Have a budget based on each tier, build a loadout, maybe 5 custom load out slots, and some base premade loadouts. The balancing part, would be up to the devs.
Great video as always, definitely valid points. The performance issues, lack of tutorial, and not properly building out the menu systems are just inexcusable. It feels as if Arena was very half baked and not properly thought out but pushed out anyways. Majority of the communities recommendations are leaps and bounds better than what is currently in place. Despite this, as someone who no longer has time to jump into Tarkov consistently, Arena has been scratching that itch and still fun. I love Tarkov mechanics and being able to jump in and out of matches quickly is amazing. If they continue to listen to the community it can be a great game, so long as it's not too little, too late.
A tutorial system for new players is needed but im guessing they are trying to find a good way to do it since this and tarkov will be linked and will need its own system as well. For the collection tab during the march drops i got the deputy kit which i was disappointed for aesthetic reasons like weapon choice along with not having the cowboy hat or just not looking like even a russian officer that i would recognize but that might be just me.
An offline arena match with bots to explain the basics of the gameplay is all that Arena needs, add a UI highlighting feature to indicate what medical items treat an immediate health problem, also I love the russian VAs for everything but lets face it, the community is mostly english speaking at this point, or capable of it, English is the most widespread language in Europe, can we just have English VA's voicing translated lines? We got the BEAR voice actors reading out the USEC lines as a trade off for the BEARS being unintelligible to most players.
hello BSG TonyspizzaVP and NikitasPlumber say hello to all and waiting you to arena to have all good time,arena is mazing with all that pizza and plumbers inside.
what if they create a new healing item specifically for Arena that just covers "healing" across the board but its only available in tier 1, then when you get to tier 2 you go back to the normal meds?
I once had the match where I picked marksmen, then another person picked another marksmen and then another one. It was on bowl so 2 marksmen isn't that bad but 3 is a tragedy.
Note on matchmaking. Once T2 opened, the matches felt balanced. I am total casual, very little game time (still not T2 unlocked). So grain of salt as my sample size is smaller. Nearly every match is 3+ wins for each team. I have not seen a single 5-0, and only one or two 5-1 games. Which if I think back were mostly team kill fests on the other team.
It's good to see I'm not the only one to think performance got worse with this patch. I'm having so less fun with Arena than when it came out. I experienced too much mystery/lucky one taps, and line head shots to others that didn't killed them even if there were clearly hit and wearing no protection. I do not have this with the base game. While fixing those performance issues is a must, I think we need a simplification on armor and ammo. For this type of game (Arena), all the crappy ammo should not be in this game. Everyone should have the same earset. Presets should be devided in some with "low armor or strong armor" : so either class 2 or class 4 armor giving some penalty to mobility. Bolt Action rifles should one tap no matter what. AR should have at least 30-35 Pen in ammo. SMGs should have 25-30 Pen. The only consequence presets should impact is the gun we have, it's attachments, recoil and ergonomics.
Finally someone talking about match accepting. There's so much examples out there on how to do that correctly and bsg just can't hack it. Shows one more time how under competent they are
they just need to add a tutorial about how each system works in arena. that would help alot for new players. expecting brand new players to understand how heavy vs light bleeds etc is ridiculous
Here's an idea: give every preset a t-bag with a grizzly med kit and allow hotbar placement from backpacks. And the higher level kits could have longer lasting pain killers
I agree. “Walk in” the healing mechanics by giving better meds to lower tier kits. Hell, give arena custom meds. Make a 1x2 grizzly to give to tier 1 so all healing is 1 button. Tier 2 an AFAK plus split, and tier 3 an AI-2 with more hp and all the bleeding items or stims. Then as you get bigger kits you need better understanding of the game.
I was really enjoying it before the pre wipe and wipe. I came back from work excited to play and…. Have only managed two full games and one alt f4. They took all my favourite and main kits away, all of them are gone including tacticool and cavalier. I’ve been looking though the presets, there’s nothing I want/like and therefore nothing to grind too…. So WTF would I grind for like last time… nothing. Been serving up hot cups of liber-tea instead
just started arena this wipe. overall its been great, exactly the change of pace from tarkov i was looking for. im around 60 matches deep. sometimes is a total stomp one way or another but its frequently a back and forth battle leading up to match 9. for learning the mechanics of the game such as meds and that being tough for new players all i can say is... figure it out, its not that difficult. the desync is occasionally an issue but more frequently the audio where a player pushes and you basically cant hear them at all, but im used to that from tarkov so whatever. I dont think the game deserves the bad rap its getting from people looking at it under a microscope, but i do understand that sometimes its what needed to make improvements. one thing i will say is that there should be absolutely no crossover of exp aor anything else between the two games... keep them permanently seperate.
Something also worth to mention is the performance of the game, we cant compare it with the average tarkov performance, it is supposed to be a competitive game, and as so, it should be able to run smoth not only in high end pcs, that impacts in player count, and also matchmaking related issues, as time
On your portion where you said ranked could have an xp bonus, I thought of another ranked incentive with unranked release. What if BSG made exclusive presets within each tier that could only be unlocked by earning xp in ranked? And not like the current unlock system, but more like a cumulative xp amount or something. And of course they can't be OP
I agree with all of the points in this video. I think meaningful changes could turn this game around it would be brilliant but so far the changes have taken far far too long in between, the game needs to be updated quickly and constantly before people turn it off for good.
You could add unique arena items to alleviate the learning curve of healing for new players. Add a single bleed item, a single splint item, healing item, surgery item, etc. That way, player sees 'blood loss' they bound universal bleed item to 4, and they hit 4 and the problem is solved. This way they get a taste of what the healing is like in arena, but it removes some of the frustrating trial and error but still stays true to what tarkov is.
unranked mode needs to be sections of gear where you have these armors these guns choose thenm save them and from there you unlock 4 more guns on lnext level
I've been playing for the past couple day and I couldn't agree more with a lot of the points your making. IMO arena is amazing as far as concept goes but i just feel like its missing something. Hopefully BSG is noticing the difference in mechanics that could/should be used in tarkov vs arena and hopefully will give them some more data to analyze and better balance/change tarkov. Currently feels like mommy promised a good dinner but brought back the last piece of pizza from 7-11. Needs a huge quality of life update, not to mention the server / hit registration issues. Feels like we're playing on a server ran off of Nikita's grandma's 2009 MacBook air the local Russian McDonalds, like i could rig a better server using some cables and a potatoe.
Arena is in trouble for a lot of reasons. The biggest to me is this: I am in a match, airplane room... I am pushed with my body up against a wall, and I get sniped around the corner. On the kill cam replay, it makes it look like I was standing two steps out in the middle like a noob. Quite simply, Arena is proving the overall problems with Tarkov. What each player is seeing doesn't match.
You missed one big thing The game itself! Even if you take away the progression system, matchmaking, the desync, the unbalanced kits - the game itself is still lacking any DEPTH. Take other shooter games like CS, R6S, Valorant, and even not competitive games like Squad, Insurgency, BF. They all have some sort of a game mode. It is not just "spawn into a paintball playfield and kill everyone". They have an objective, and the maps are built with those objective in mind. Not just a random mess of covers that don't have any purpose. There is a dimension of tactic, strategy, teamplay, game sense. CS for example is a very simple game. It doesn't have all the complex mechanics you have in Tarkov. no healing system or height over bore... but the way the game is balanced around a simple objective creates a whole world of tactical gameplay, coordination and a wide set of skills you need to master in order to win. It is a very easy game to understand but very hard to master. and this is what makes it so successful. When there is no objective to the game mode besides kill the other team, and the maps are symmetric to the point that there is no reason for the enemy to be in one place more than the other - you just get a random clash between players. There are no decisions to make - you go left, go right, or middle, eventually you'll run into someone. This lack of depth is what will make this game feel boring even if they will fix everything else. there is just no GAME here, just a map to spawn in and shoot people. this is also why it is so un-interesting to watch. So if they really want to make Arena a good competitive shooter, they need to introduce some sort of an objective game mode and get rid of the symmetric random map layout they have. This by itself will create a whole dimension for the game of strategy, game sense and teamplay.
absolutely disagree, all the covers have purpose and i actually use everything possible to hide and take new covers. Play Bowl, play Airpit, and that can be absolutely hyper tactical, even on equator. Not in the same way as Valorant or CS. I stopped playing CS because it's always the same angle on every maps, throw smokes there and there, flash there... boring as fuck. when we play as premade team, we tend to also play against a premade team, we manage to change tactics trough rounds to counter enemy positions.
@@SuperGenmo Ofc you use the covers. like you use the cover in a paintball game. there is no objective besides you hiding behind cover and shooting other people. that's the point. you are not defending anything, not attacking anything. Saying that CS is "boring as fuck"... clearly you have no idea. The amount of possibilities in CS is INFINITE in comparison to Arena. Yes there are many reasons not to like CS, it is not for everyone. But this game is the god of competitive shooters. it is more than 20 years old and still evolving. there is a reason for that. you can't compete that with a 3 lane airsoft maps with no game mode. Literally every match in arena looks the same. I can still remember some exciting CS matches I had years ago. tell me if you are going to remember any Arena game you played.. they are all unmemorable. you can't play smart, you can't surprise or be surprised by anything. you know what is going to happen and the only question is who is going to die less. Imagine a game mode so bad that you actually need to put AI bots and rng elements to determine who will win a round... very competitive.
@@tzav i played cs at competitive levels. i remember games where's there's clutch and everything linked to good plays that you can do in arena too as long as you play as a team. Do i remember games when i played with random people on cs ? no. do i get surprised after seeing same strategy on every maps? i remember learning all fucking smokes, flash, he nade, glitch, climbing on my ally head to get a line, all wallbang possible. so yeah, after years of playing i get bored. I don't get why strategy can't be used in tarkov arena? in bowl you can split your team in a 4-1 and rush with a flash and nades like you can do in CS. you can be agressive to take mid control with the helicopter. it's not the same as CS or Valorant, i get it. But Strategy can be applied. reading you guys seems like it's impossible to enjoy tarkov arena. there's a lot of issues but i still enjoy the sensation of shooting. it's pvp tarkov without losing time getting geared, without looking for players who shit their pants camping in a bush or in a corner for 20 minutes.
@@SuperGenmo it can be fun but it is still braindead. The strategies you can have there are primitive compared to other games. Like comparing tic tac toe to chess. There is very little depth to it if any.
I didn't realize how far in the minority I was, I've been enjoying arena since the wipe. I'm through all assault and cqb tier 1 classes and closing out my tier 1 scout. Scout is absolute pain though, I'm excited to pick up the DMRs and be putting out higher damage with no armor instead of lower damage lol. I hope more fixes come to bring the community back to the game, but all in all I'm having good fun.
Bullets not counting or hitting someone 19 times vs their 1 and it’s not a headshot is infuriating And every time they patch I feel like it gets worse And the new map is way to open Their needs to be more walls or paths People can snipe the other team right off the bat
i think the biggest problem about the state of arena is the Performance issue. Matchmaking xp and gear sets could be better but its the 2nd wipe for arena. i give them time to learn. The server issues is what the kills the game. Im getting smackt by server legs or bad hitregistration very often. hope they fix this fast..
I agree with a lot of stuff you said but the one thing I disagree on is making the mechanics more “accessible”. As a 1’st wipe Tarkov player the only reason I play arena is to practice the mechanics and gunplay for the main game as it’s the only way to get into multiple fights fast other than factory
Arena is like doing punisher quests over an over. And Punisher is fun doing like once.
and it's just pure Death Match, which isn't a popular game mode in fps. even COD isn't entirely that, as it had those 'call in'/ kill streak stuff options, or 2v2 duels
I have fun with punisher every wipe
Yeah, and the Punisher questline - well basically any quest that involves dressing up like an idiot (Peacekeeping Mission comes to mind), are very annoying to get through because the Devs have pumped up the numbers. Especially when there's a mismatch between required guns and required gear - basically you become a gun donator.
In a game where you have so much freedom to craft guns any way you like and similar for gear... lets force you to run a very specific gear set, cuz if you don't your progression stops.
I really dislike many of these hyper fixated quests in Tarkov, especially when the kill count is rather unchecked. Shooter Born in Heaven is a good example of where the sheer amount of headshot kills you need is unchecked. 5 headshots with bolt actions for 7 different maps, totaling 35 PMC kills... Luckily it got changed from the 100m requirement and it doesn't gate progression, but it does hinder the easy access to Magazine Cases (aka extra stash space) which is always coveted.
Hope you don't suck at bolt actions - oh did I mention that all the mid-tier Sniper Scopes (1x-4/6/8x, Burris, Razer, S&B) cannot be bought from vendors, so you have to rely on Flea market which jacks up the price, especially earlier in the wipe to be just a little shy of the price of some top-tier stock guns?
Ain’t nothing fun about punisher quests.
@@Solid_Dude I respect degeneracy.
Leave it to BSG to fuck up a TDM
I enjoy playing until it gets frustrating and it gets frustrating. I could only imagine PvP focused Tarkov players and their frustration
good thing its not a tdm
@@yougotmidrolled tdm with a cap point for the 1 out of 20 rounds both teams dont just run at each other gun each other down
@@yougotmidrollednobody plays the objective get your head outcha assss
The De-sync is my main issue. I do enjoy the game but so many issues stem from how bad the netcode is
Don’t crab and use the desync to your advantage?
@@timg4444 Holding angles isn't crabbing. You need to be able to hold angles in a competitive shooter. If not then there's no tactics involved anymore. Also the desync still effects you even if you do spend all your time w shift keying. Besides performance issues like this are unforgivable for a competitive FPS.
@@SirDehumanized or, if you see someone you dip back into cover and then Ferrari peak them instead of standing still like a bot. But hey, enjoy staying in D/C tier with the rest of the shitters lmfao
@@SirDehumanized i mean the main biggest issue that killed it for me was that they added the armor system that created more problems with dysnc. all they really had to do was do class changes and nerfs not these changes at all lol. this is coming from a guy who was b tier with 50 mil
@@timg4444 You actually think I’m still playing this dumpster fire? 😂
my biggest issue is when i know i dump atleast 10 bullets but in their pov i barely shoot 2. so many momenets where i clearly see sparks flying off helmets but their pov shows i barely ads'd
I’ve died so many times to this, it’s so annoying tbh. Plus the audio is crazy!
this is my biggest gripe with the game
@@matthewmonast7468 i mean the craziest thing is that they took out bullet over pen meaning the bullet that doesnt have enough pen will not pen that persons armor. thats why when you put a whole clipinto the persons chest and they dont die thats why
@@lostkhan1728whats your IQ?
@@chuyalexis1411 higher than yours all I gotta say
For me, immediate turn off was that I wouldn't be able to use my own setup that I've created. Im not playing the game with a extensive gun modding, to run garbage guns that look ugly as fuck and I never would make them irl
You know a game is on life support when you constantly see the same names in matchmaking
It’s almost like BSG has never played arena themselves.
I think a big part of arena that isn’t getting talked about is that I have no desire to play it! I’ve heard this from almost all of my friends too. Anyone else experiencing this also?
was so hyped to play it that i was pretty mad when i didnt get in day 1. I got in like day 3 and played all the way till i got Tier 3 HK416 build. I never hopped on again after that. Even in the base game, BSG struggles to give players a reason to pvp.
I have a group of 7 friends that I play EFT with regularly. We all have EOD and none of us got Arena day one. Five of us tried the game once we did get access and noticed the long matching,loading times, preset kits and we all just went straight back to EFT. None of us have touched Arena since. I think that is the case for the vast majority of people who played EFT before Arena. Most just went back to EFT, and the playerbase for Arena has dropped to almost just a handful of players that are willing to grind it out because they didn't really play EFT beforehand to begin with.
i have no desire to play tarkov anymore for its obvious issues let alone play another game by BSG that has all the same issues popping up in it
So many great points in this video!!! the biggest problem for me is the audio and desync until they fix those the game is unplayable for me
charging 30$ for it and bsg not getting more backlash for that is the most shocking thing about arena
The vast majority of people playing it didn't pay anything for it.
There isn't enough in the game for the 40$ price tag
Yeh but you need new people at this moment , for 30$ can just look darker and darker is more fun a the devs are making good fixing for the game and updates, here is like the devs dont play the game and just do a poor job. @@Airwingmarine
@@kevinsk753 I spent 40 euro on helldivers 2 instead of arena. Really glad I did
@@nibbs3842 Well, it is a side project of a game still in beta, got any expectations there's gonna be alot to it? I probably wouldn't have bought it for 40, and i bought tarkovs EOD before the hacking problem became the major issue it is now, nowadays i wouldn't even fuckin think about spending 150 bucks on tarkov. No chance in hell.
We wanted Call of Tarkov without grind, instead we got No Escape from Tarkov grind.
i thought arena was gonna be a more relaxed version where i dont care if i lose or die but it turned out to be the complete opposite where I still gotta grind my ass off and worry about money. Too much Tarkov grinding
2 of the 3 arena matches I played this week there was a player (different player each time) that was just TKing at the start of the match. If ranked is the only available game mode then they need to be kicking for TKs.
the 10% bonus cash does nothing since the kit costs 50k while all the other tier 1 starters are free so you get less profit
Appreciate all of the coverage!
Really good video! Appreciate the work Airwingmarine
BSG really missed a big mark on this game they should have just had it be a 3 tier system where you have a set amount of roubles to build a kit in each tier. Maybe also have it where you can build five presets for every tier similar to COD. This would capitalize on one of the biggest things EFT let’s you do which is freedom to customize you kit and load out the way you want
I agree a custom kit experience is what most tarkov players wanted but there’s some problems with it.
It’s a balance nightmare. Having to individually balance thousands of items would be a huge undertaking. In tarkov it doesn’t really matter if items aren’t perfectly balanced price wise, ima competitive environment it will, an underpriced item will allow upgrades else where. Plus how do you balance armor vs guns? What if I show up with a just a pistol but it lets me afford tier 5 armor in tier 1 play? What if I forgo armor to bring a vector with Ap. It would be a nightmare to balance.
It’s also extremely bad for a new experience. He just talked about the complex mechanics being a barrier of entry, not imagine you can’t just ignore it because you have to build your own kit.
Arena is basically only attractive to tarkov players but tarkov players aren’t playing an arena shooter for a reason. We had some fun fights then went back to the og game. You have to make it enticing and fun to people who aren’t already playing tarkov. It should be the game that brings people to Tarkov
@@Average644I feel like a system like something insurgency sandstorm has would work relatively well. Having a certain amount of "points" you can allocate to weapons, mods, armor, etc.
Yeah unfortunately i just dont care for the set kits at all. I get why they went this way, but it made me lose total interest in Arena.
I like your ideas, I even think roubles should be tied to base game so they complement each other
I hate to say "be more like COD" but they've literally perfected the TDM process over decades. Not being able to create our own loadouts is absolutely wild
Can we download your music anywhere or are you only on Spotify?
dsync is a HUGE issue in arena from my experience this wipe. Swinging someone and putting 5 shots into someone and dying then watching the kill cam and i never shot or maybe shot once or twice. or running behind a wall and a sold second later dying to a shot that in the kill cam hit me before i ever got behind the wall. That is what has ruined arena for me this wipe. BSG made great improvements while still missing many issues
Can somebody explain to me why I can't use unlocked presets? I'm doing something wrong??? Or do I need to do something additional to play with open presets???... please...many thanks in advance...P.S. for example under scout presets O open complete tier 1 under tier 2 I opened half of them but can't play with none of them ,do I need to open complete tier 2 to play with any presets of tier 2 or what??
Arena doesn't even feel like tarkov, it just looks like tarkov. It's bizarre
Appreciate the update Marine
Very good video as usual, kinda caught me by surprise since I’ve been having a blast with arena recently and I feel like most of these issues are only a problem for less experienced players, my best suggestion would be a system that shows what med to use In your hot bar when you start bleeding or break a limb etc. that and have an info page showing what items do what in the menu
I was doing a match and cleanup crew was chasing someone from the opposite team. One of the cleanup crew threw a nade at someone and the entire crew including the one who threw the nade all ran strait to the nade and blew themselves up
I just started in early 2021 for playing tarkov before the inertia patch, i that moment people says arena gonna be awesome , and 3 years later is sucks.
We look arena for play free or just fast pvp agresive but instead you get a bad mm // mmr system // desync // the new "hitbox" is really trash for arena and people dont want to play a game for being holded in every round . Marksmans is dogshit for leveling up, poor magazines, shitty scopes, ammo trash vs UMP chad shift w with 25 bullets .
Nobody wants to pick sawhills because is so bad.
they put so much money for having 300 people watching on twitch i just rather just fix tarkov .
I think there should be less inertitia in Tarkov and Arene.
The game needed inertia but not this mess.
Everybody is camping and the immersion is totally gone.
The biggest reason to me for why i stopped playing Arena is the grinding. Grinding can be fun, but Tier 1 kits were never fun to use. And the only ones that remotely felt good got nerfed. If arena is meant to be fun, BSG needs to let people run what they like.
Edit : A solution i think would be good is : Let people unlock 7 kits of every tier for free, then any exp earned counts for ALL KITS in the same tree. Lower tier kits give +10% exp for tier 2, and +25% for tier 1.
(N.B. for this to work, all kits can be unlocked regardless of if you unlocked the previous one. You can also choose one kit in every tree that will recieve +50% progress compared to other kits.)
(Also, on the subject of collection kits : running them should give every preset in the game 70% exp (total is actually 87.5% becase of the tier 1 bonus, and 122.5% for kits chosen to get +50% exp for Rizhy))
Edit 2 : If you guys want to talk about what you think is wrong with arena, use the reply section
Blows my mind that they have grinding at all in their "arena shooter". I have no interest whatsoever in playing Tarkov-lite. I'll just play the regular game if I have to go through bs with unbalanced kits to unlock things.
@@smockytubers1188 It would be fun if we got to actually use the gunbuilding aspect of tarkov for our kits, instead we get some stupid ass loadouts with bad setups and unfun ttk/hitreg. Can't tell you the number of times I dumped 13 rounds of pst into a guy with the mp5 or vityaz kit only to die in 2 shots even against when they have no armor in the areas im shooting, its just horribly balanced and there is NO customization(oh did I mention you cant have 2 people use the same kit? so even if you unlock one you like someone can just take it before you and now you waited god knows how long to use a completely different kit that you probably dont even like)
I liked what you said about “walking” the player into the mechanics.
They should give tier 1 effectively small 1-2slot grizzlies and painkillers. Then one button fixes both bleeds and breaks.
Tier 2 split it up more, maybe an AFAK but now you have splints.
Tier 3 you get bandages and tourniquet ect.
Which mechanic you walk in could change. But this way a simple pop up graphic of “now that you’re tier 2 you have more to worry about, you’ll have to fix your own broken arms” would do, and by the time you get through the tier you’ll understand that step and be ready for the next one.
Arena having specific items unique to it for the sake of learning or streamlining is probably something they should consider in general. It would make balance a lot easier and it would be easier to understand.
What made me stop playing arena after the wipe was that it felt so much worse than eft. Healing made no sound, took longer, everythinf had a diffetrent look to it graphically and the desync I usually avoid by fighting long ranges just cant be avoided there.
Thank you for all that you do for this community!!
I'm there about Tarkov itself, too. The best wipe ever? yes. I agree. But Im still not able to HAVE FUN while playing it.
I will say, the early wipe fun is much more than it was back in 2019.
My issue these days, is the same de-sync, sound, netcode issues that were around 3 years ago…
All that on top of quests that are just… see Leviticus’s vid he posted today, unnecessarily grindy… it’s not fun having to sit in one spot for 30 mins waiting for scavs to spawn in a super specific location only for you to accidentally kill them 5ft from the arbitrary, and poorly drawn, boundary around where it’s acceptable to kill them. And btw, if you wanna use a “lore” excuse, how tf do any of the traders know you actually killed them 5ft away from where they asked you to? They have cameras or something?
Yeah, man. I reported 6x for cheating this wipe. Mostly on GZ. 2 I got the confirmed message.
The others were chads super kitted in the teen levels on GZ? Freaking griefers get Lost & go play each other on labs, man. Sick of that. I'm struggling to learn a new map & quests here. Sheesh.
Then I keep getting head or neck shot thru brush byscavs I can't see? F off Nikita, Ya sadist. It's Not Fun. Turn that switch OFF.
@Airwingmarine , the obdolbos does technically say it on info tab, but you have to really read into it, it says -600 health per second on one of the lines, ;)
It says it on the og menu info tab, but not on the new ui info screen that most people will look at.
It is also convoluted. As you point out, it doesn't straight up tell you it will kill you.
the collection kits i got one from a twitch drop called Deputy which is an assault
If you dont want to overhaul the healing system they could make a custom item like a 1 slot grizzly with a reduced usage time to unify the med system, add a 30 second to 1 minute painkiller effect aura on match start. BSG also has the ability to tweak or remove how much damage bleeds blacked limbs do etc so there are plenty of levers to pull to adjust how they want the game to play. Personally I think Arena lacks a clear direction, if they allowed custom free for all or TDM loadouts so you can test stuff before using it in the main game and a true just free for all tarkov pvp experience that would be one thing but this mish mash quasi competitive experience has no direction and lacks a clear focus in terms of balance.
the desync is crazy with bolt actions very annoying
Scopes don’t work well for me at all. I get headshots when they’re stopped shooting at my team mate. I have to bait my team mates when I snipe lol
Arena should’ve been COD style leveling up and unlocks, as well as modes where you respawn. No idea why they decided to go with presets and a no-respawn mode. All we wanted was cod with Tarkov movement and gunplay, as well as kit customization.
I’ve noticed the desync/hitreg issue is pretty big in the base game as well as of late. Had 3 separate occasions yesterday alone of a clear headshot landing, a blood splatter on the wall behind them, I die and my shot isn’t counted in the post-raid screen. Anyone else experiencing this or is it something on my end
Tarkov has ALWAYS had a lag issue, the game server is almost always 1000-2000ms ahead of your client, and who knows how far ahead or behind the other players you are.
The higher your ping the worse this gets as it just adds to the issue.
Arena really showcases the lag though because you'll light someone up on your side with no packet loss and stable ping, see blood all over the wall behind them, get killed by them and in the kill cam they were actually one second ahead of you and were already shooting you before you shot at all. It becomes very aggravating.
This is how base game always is as well you just notice it less because there's more going on in base game to worry about than counting the rough MS between your actions and theirs.
Been playing since the Closed Beta for base game launched, so this is a core engine issue that hasn't been fixed for years.
Been this way for the 5 or so years I’ve been playing. Don’t hold your breath it will ever get fixed, it’s been my number 1 complaint since day 1.
This is one of the best vids giving an honest critique on arena. I solo queue all the time and it os noticeably more difficult, I enjoy Tarkovs pvp, as sketch as it is in arena I still go in because I just personally need the back to back fights to improve. Everything you said I agree with 100%. The only reason I dont play main game like I used to is because of time constraints. I do hope they continue to improve things.
On the point of people not accepting matches more often since the patch I think it’s largely a result of having to pick 3 maps minimum. If you get a map selected that you don’t want to play you just let it time out and it rerolls the map.
Will admit to doing this. Previously, I would only matchmake in Bay 5 and Equator, unless I was trying to level up marksman, and then I would play bowl. Won't play the plane map and will not play sawmill. Now chop shop is a thing, and it suits the classes I use but is frustrating to play.
Sorry to everyone trying to get in a game, BSG made me lie about which maps I'm willing to play. 🤷♂️
Good guy AWM always quality content. I can confirm all your issues. Its rough.
Just an FYI Airwing, You can see what plates the armor for any locked and unlocked preset. You just have to click the eye above the magnifying glass and hover over the armor icon. It will tell you what plates are in the armor. It doesn't tell you the level plates they are but I'm sure you would be able to tell by just seeing the name of the armor.
BSG did give out a Collection character during the drops with the new wipe of arena (Deputy - Assault Class). They do need to do more with this and actually make them more special than just a meme
Rhyzy kit is 'okay' for Tier 1.
Something that would be extremely helpful for newbies and the med situation would be having a grizzly on every class hot keyed to 4. Keep all the stims and pk's too but that easy 1 button heal would be great and easy to learn.
I had a match where most of the enemy team left and I got no XP for the match even though I was forced to play the remainder of the rounds. Like WTF why do I get punished when the other team leaves?
It took me ages to get into matches the other night. Also, I got a warning to not team kill near the start of the match one round, even though I hadn’t fired any guns and in fact was killed by my own team
From bad to worse. GZW will be the death of BSG this year.
I wouldn't go that far. It's still very rough around the edges. In a year or so when there is enough content then yes. BSG should be worried because they will be stealing a large part of their player base.
wait i wanna see that gears rage footage in all its glory!
there is also a glitch in que when ur in a party sometimes everyone but one or two people will get the match accept button and it will just say Matching for them
Game also needs more outdoor map for marksman class now that we have to select 4+ maps
BSG absolutely should NOT take out any of the complex mechanics of Tarkov from Arena. They aren't holding the game back, BSG failing to include anything that resembles a tutorial is the issue. They just offloaded the responsibility to content creators.
The med times need to be reduced at least by 25% at most by 50%.
Waiting several seconds to bandage or splint can be the difference between winning a fight, escaping or just getting headshot while you're stuck in an animation.
This is coming from an 8-9k hrs player.
@@RexhunterjI have to disagree there, using meds in close contact is always dangerous in tarkov and should continue to be in arena. Especially since it's a team based game. Being able to med up in a fight is something that should be based on good team play and quick planning, not just making it so fast the enemy can't react and take advantage.
Especially since the enemy has already won part of that advantage by inflicting the damage in the first place, making it faster would be a crutch.
I feel both sides of this as a veteran player. Maybe they dont have to change any of the mechanics if they can use others to bypass them. In regards to heal times and even kit balancing they could slap all kits with propitols or etgs. Could simplify a ton while still holding the games integrity @@sometoastxd
Yeah, removing what makes tarkov tarkov is a brain dead solution. Would some whiners come back to play a butchered version of arena? Sure. But I and many others wouldn’t even bother.
I 100% agree to lower the time on some meds enough to make a quick decision to heal but not enough for someone to not push off of that 15-25% easy. I don't want a broken leg that I can't decide to fix cuz it's a huge detriment in that combat scenario.
Instead of relying solely on the preset system for progression, they could implement a tier-based equipment system where players must purchase gear with in-game currency, possibly requiring payment each time they use it (money would be crucial in comparison to now). Equipment would be categorized into tiers, with each piece having a point value assigned to it (e.g., M4 = 10 points, Elcan = 40 points). Players would have a limited number of points for their loadout, with higher tiers having a higher point pool.
Players would unlock gear through their overall level or by completing quests and challenges, purchasing items from in-game traders. Introducing in-game events and quests could add variety to gameplay. Tier-based daily or weekly quests could incentivize players to revisit lower tiers even after reaching higher levels.
If players run out of currency, they could fall back on preset loadouts as a backup or for cost-saving purposes. Implementing more dynamic systems like these could offer alternatives to repetitive preset grinding.
It's a known thing but my voip still doesn't work so I cannot communicate with teammates if I wanted to. I know normally these things are user error but it's not this time
@Airwingmarine I tried to watch this but about 12 minutes in the video was canceled and I had to wait another 5 minutes of ads to watch again for it to only happen again and I have UA-cam red...
My biggest issue with the game, is waiting 10 minutes in que, for the game to get canceled and not count after 2 rounds.
I had a match play through to completion the other day, where one of my teammates disconnected round 2 and another went afk from round 2 to 5. It played to the end and we obviously lost. During that match I had flashbacks to all the matches I'd played that WERE cancelled, often noting that I didn't get a notification anyone had left.
That shit is frustrating.
They need to add a different objective. Like a plant and defuse or something. No one even goes for the objective right now
Why not team comms during kit choice also? Can discuss who's going what class.
I love how people rightfully complained about the exp grind so they made it take less exp to unlock presets but then required you to have 5 tier 2 and 3 presets to play the respective playlists
Huge respect to this guy being able to not lash out at his wife and actually consider her making him take a break actual help
TEAMMATES NEED TO HAVE THE COLORED ARMBANDS FOR EASIER SOLO Q CALLOUTS, LIKE COUNTER-STRIKE COLORS!!!!!!! (BLUE, GREEN, WHITE, YELLOW, etc.) please make opposite team always have red armbands. as some one who has almost 4k hours in tarkov and i myself have a hard enough time with team recognition in arena. can imagine someone who just started playing.
LITERLLY SO easy to do as well ive been wondering why the enemy isnt always just red for you
idk if youre trolling cause there are red and blue armbands on each team
Just get good and look before you shoot????? not that hard pleb get good
he mean like the colors dont change per game your always blue and the enemy is always red like how Battlefield does it@@eren_jeager132 i just say get goodXD
@@eren_jeager132 the whole point he is trying to say is that every match has the same enemy colour so people wont get confused by them
Personally, I think the balance is almost perfect for tier one. There are a few notable exceptions of kits that may need to be tweaked a bit, but even some of the "high" tier one kits aren't that much better compared to the rest (only major exception is marksman kits, imo they should all have some form of headset). However, my personal issue with the game is the toxicity between players and the high rate of teamkilling. This is mostly due to someone not remembering what team they're on because they have played so many matches and it gets hard to remember which color you are. This then leads to miscommunication and ultimately teams fighting at the beginning of the match. Two simple solutions: 1. Put a colored wristband on the left arm to quickly remind you what team you are on. Most times your left wrist is on your screen so this would be an immersive way to remind people what team they are on without checking their inventory. 2. Block the ability to shoot at the beginning of the match before the announcer counts down to zero. There is absolutely NO reason why we should be able to shoot before the gates open.
The root issue is we love tarkov because you can make the gun of your dreams and then go use it in pvp/pve, we have ZERO control of what builds we get to choose from, HIRED OPS is literally better at this than arena and it NEEDS to change. I have 7500 hours in tarkov and the only reason I pushed that far was because there are so many different builds for guns like the M4A1(even more now that recoil isnt so finnicky)
me being able to pick my sight/grip/muzzle options isnt going to make or break the game and could easily just be balanced by loadout costs that are seemingly pointless atm
Airwing, Do you by chance know whats causing all the no-regs and issues with bullets just not working?
I also noticed if I accidently shoot a teammate they die the way id expect them too, but for some reason when shooting enemies, it takes the whole damn mag.
Same issue, with a 200+mb/s Internet connection. A lot of it is desync, exacerbated by their (I'm pretty sure of this) client-based damage output.
It's the servers going "Actually, they weren't in that place you just shot, but by the way, I just got word they killed you 3 seconds ago." That's why people coming around corners have so much time to shoot you before you see them, because they peaked you long before the server told you so. That same server will show others exactly where you are if you're 1) stationary, or 2) running fast internet.
@@shaunnormandy I have the best net I can for where I live, And I am rarely Stationary for long. I prefer the more aggressive play style, but also a tactile one. I honestly only have this issue with Tarkov, and Apex.
@@JMECK yeah, the only game I've played where it's been this bad is mw2. And that game was deleted. Not sure if it's because of all the additional calculations the servers are running atop the usual positioning and health/damage, or if the netcode is just that terrible, but it seems to only be of benefit if your connection is slow. The price of excellence I guess lol
22:58 The first time I played Arena, I kept trying to click the "BUY PRESET" text at the top of the screen and completely missed the "BUY" button at the bottom of the screen. I know I'm an idiot, but I'm not the only one.
For the tiers - make the first tier only the "base" kits. The other tiers can have more of a spread, but at the first tier all of the kits should be relatively equal. In fact, make the requirement for the second tier unlocking the first second tier kit in each of the classes.
Great video, pretty much sums up my feeling on the game.
I had some people ask if they should try Arena not having played EfT and I said categorically no, and there is nothing indicating they ever should. Buy EfT? Yes, and then learn the systems if they want to. This game, whatever they do to fix it for experienced EfT players, is dead on arrival with the current systems for new players. Yes they can go search EfT wiki's/guides but that is just a cop-out for a company developing this kind of game and expecting new players to enter it.
I am getting some fun during peak times when the matchmaking is more well rounded, and find my games to be pretty decent with minimal "stomps." Once outside of these times the game goes to hell... very one sided games and even what appear to be very suspect players in each lobby. On top of this a low player pool where I see the same players a few times if I play 5 or 6 games.
The dysnc issue is the worst I've seen, maybe even worse then in EfT in the past. I honestly don't even trust what I see now, and I expect when I am getting good games with lots of kills the enemy is getting desync from me. I've turned off the game (after the match finishes) many times after seeing my shots, which were fired first on my screen, no register or only register a few hits. Or I die around a corner. Or I die not shooting going around a corner (when I did). You said it best, this will kill the game no matter what else BSG will do, but I do not believe they can fix it as it seemed just baked into the BSG code/setup at this point.
I don't see myself playing past getting tier 2 loadouts and trying a few, the grind is just too much to try and get into tier 3. I am getting my combat fix and it has helped me in EfT but I have little interest in dealing with BSG thinking they have time to develop this game over years like EfT. I don't want to spend much time on a game that I feel will eventually be dead.
played arena for about 75 matches (mainly solo occasionally duo) so far and its either my team is getting rolled 0-5 or im hard carrying a close game 5-4 where i need a break afterwards.
The hit reg in arena is especially bad
there has been constant packet loss since like 3 days after the original launch
You know what throws me off the most? I have died more than 10 times from 1 damage 1 hit from near full to full hp. On the flip side after I've died it showed I've done 0 damage with 0 hits multiple times as well, which wouldn't be an issue except the fact that it shouldn't even register that there was no damage done if I missed entirely. So I can only conclude that I hit the guy on my screen, but because of my setup due to lag or fps issues or whatever it may be, I missed server side and was already dead on the other players screen because of desync. It's like I'm constantly stuck in the past. It's super frustrating because I cannot consistently win because of this
@@DasInf13 the ‘0 hit 0 dmg’ thing is just buggy, can’t be used to judge no hit reg. I’ve shot at people and know I missed them (bullets hit a solid surface/my aim was off) and it’s shown both nothing and also 0hit/0dmg. It’s just buggy af. When it shows no hits and you see their body recoil…that’s no hit reg.
@know1nose971 it's just so weird because it feels like you're constantly 1 to 2 seconds behind everyone else but you don't know until you watch the death screen and really throws you off. It's like ok so I'm already dead on the enemies screen when I see him turn the corner and start firing and that's why it's doing that? Or is it just that for me it's bad hit reg. I honestly don't understand it because I've never played a game with this sort of feature before. If I had it was never this noticable
@@DasInf13 with everyone else reporting the low latency or packet loss symbol constantly, the server ticks are terribly slow / the lag is making the difference in player to sever communication.
Tiers should be the same as save/buy rounds in CS2. You pick from tier 1 for "pistol rounds" and get up to tier 3 after a couple wins for "buy rounds" with tier 2 being the most used middle ground kits.
Picking one tier/kit for the whole game just has no counter play or balancing options
I think there should be tiers, but it should be monetary and xp based. Have a budget based on each tier, build a loadout, maybe 5 custom load out slots, and some base premade loadouts. The balancing part, would be up to the devs.
I have one more collection preset from twitch drop but didn't play it anyway.
damn some this shit been happening to me good to know its not me just having a bad game, its THE game lol
Great video as always, definitely valid points. The performance issues, lack of tutorial, and not properly building out the menu systems are just inexcusable. It feels as if Arena was very half baked and not properly thought out but pushed out anyways. Majority of the communities recommendations are leaps and bounds better than what is currently in place. Despite this, as someone who no longer has time to jump into Tarkov consistently, Arena has been scratching that itch and still fun. I love Tarkov mechanics and being able to jump in and out of matches quickly is amazing. If they continue to listen to the community it can be a great game, so long as it's not too little, too late.
I continually play tier 1 now that its an option to do so. Prefer the low lvl gear fights. I'm curious if others do the same.
A tutorial system for new players is needed but im guessing they are trying to find a good way to do it since this and tarkov will be linked and will need its own system as well. For the collection tab during the march drops i got the deputy kit which i was disappointed for aesthetic reasons like weapon choice along with not having the cowboy hat or just not looking like even a russian officer that i would recognize but that might be just me.
An offline arena match with bots to explain the basics of the gameplay is all that Arena needs, add a UI highlighting feature to indicate what medical items treat an immediate health problem, also I love the russian VAs for everything but lets face it, the community is mostly english speaking at this point, or capable of it, English is the most widespread language in Europe, can we just have English VA's voicing translated lines? We got the BEAR voice actors reading out the USEC lines as a trade off for the BEARS being unintelligible to most players.
hello BSG TonyspizzaVP and NikitasPlumber say hello to all and waiting you to arena to have all good time,arena is mazing with all that pizza and plumbers inside.
what if they create a new healing item specifically for Arena that just covers "healing" across the board but its only available in tier 1, then when you get to tier 2 you go back to the normal meds?
I once had the match where I picked marksmen, then another person picked another marksmen and then another one. It was on bowl so 2 marksmen isn't that bad but 3 is a tragedy.
Note on matchmaking. Once T2 opened, the matches felt balanced.
I am total casual, very little game time (still not T2 unlocked). So grain of salt as my sample size is smaller.
Nearly every match is 3+ wins for each team. I have not seen a single 5-0, and only one or two 5-1 games. Which if I think back were mostly team kill fests on the other team.
It's good to see I'm not the only one to think performance got worse with this patch. I'm having so less fun with Arena than when it came out. I experienced too much mystery/lucky one taps, and line head shots to others that didn't killed them even if there were clearly hit and wearing no protection. I do not have this with the base game. While fixing those performance issues is a must, I think we need a simplification on armor and ammo. For this type of game (Arena), all the crappy ammo should not be in this game. Everyone should have the same earset. Presets should be devided in some with "low armor or strong armor" : so either class 2 or class 4 armor giving some penalty to mobility. Bolt Action rifles should one tap no matter what. AR should have at least 30-35 Pen in ammo. SMGs should have 25-30 Pen. The only consequence presets should impact is the gun we have, it's attachments, recoil and ergonomics.
Unranked mode must come out with the update the combines it with the main game, as you can't use you pmc in ranked
12:00 track name?
Finally someone talking about match accepting. There's so much examples out there on how to do that correctly and bsg just can't hack it. Shows one more time how under competent they are
they just need to add a tutorial about how each system works in arena. that would help alot for new players. expecting brand new players to understand how heavy vs light bleeds etc is ridiculous
Here's an idea: give every preset a t-bag with a grizzly med kit and allow hotbar placement from backpacks. And the higher level kits could have longer lasting pain killers
I agree. “Walk in” the healing mechanics by giving better meds to lower tier kits.
Hell, give arena custom meds. Make a 1x2 grizzly to give to tier 1 so all healing is 1 button.
Tier 2 an AFAK plus split, and tier 3 an AI-2 with more hp and all the bleeding items or stims. Then as you get bigger kits you need better understanding of the game.
I was really enjoying it before the pre wipe and wipe. I came back from work excited to play and…. Have only managed two full games and one alt f4. They took all my favourite and main kits away, all of them are gone including tacticool and cavalier. I’ve been looking though the presets, there’s nothing I want/like and therefore nothing to grind too…. So WTF would I grind for like last time… nothing. Been serving up hot cups of liber-tea instead
Game shouldn’t have limited loadouts to a simple class customization. They should have used a call of duty-esque weapon and gear unlock system
just started arena this wipe. overall its been great, exactly the change of pace from tarkov i was looking for. im around 60 matches deep. sometimes is a total stomp one way or another but its frequently a back and forth battle leading up to match 9. for learning the mechanics of the game such as meds and that being tough for new players all i can say is... figure it out, its not that difficult. the desync is occasionally an issue but more frequently the audio where a player pushes and you basically cant hear them at all, but im used to that from tarkov so whatever. I dont think the game deserves the bad rap its getting from people looking at it under a microscope, but i do understand that sometimes its what needed to make improvements. one thing i will say is that there should be absolutely no crossover of exp aor anything else between the two games... keep them permanently seperate.
Something also worth to mention is the performance of the game, we cant compare it with the average tarkov performance, it is supposed to be a competitive game, and as so, it should be able to run smoth not only in high end pcs, that impacts in player count, and also matchmaking related issues, as time
On your portion where you said ranked could have an xp bonus, I thought of another ranked incentive with unranked release. What if BSG made exclusive presets within each tier that could only be unlocked by earning xp in ranked? And not like the current unlock system, but more like a cumulative xp amount or something. And of course they can't be OP
Also a good incentive/reward. Thanks for sharing!
I agree with all of the points in this video.
I think meaningful changes could turn this game around it would be brilliant but so far the changes have taken far far too long in between, the game needs to be updated quickly and constantly before people turn it off for good.
You could add unique arena items to alleviate the learning curve of healing for new players. Add a single bleed item, a single splint item, healing item, surgery item, etc. That way, player sees 'blood loss' they bound universal bleed item to 4, and they hit 4 and the problem is solved. This way they get a taste of what the healing is like in arena, but it removes some of the frustrating trial and error but still stays true to what tarkov is.
unranked mode needs to be sections of gear where you have these armors these guns choose thenm save them and from there you unlock 4 more guns on lnext level
I've been playing for the past couple day and I couldn't agree more with a lot of the points your making. IMO arena is amazing as far as concept goes but i just feel like its missing something. Hopefully BSG is noticing the difference in mechanics that could/should be used in tarkov vs arena and hopefully will give them some more data to analyze and better balance/change tarkov. Currently feels like mommy promised a good dinner but brought back the last piece of pizza from 7-11. Needs a huge quality of life update, not to mention the server / hit registration issues. Feels like we're playing on a server ran off of Nikita's grandma's 2009 MacBook air the local Russian McDonalds, like i could rig a better server using some cables and a potatoe.
Arena is in trouble for a lot of reasons. The biggest to me is this:
I am in a match, airplane room... I am pushed with my body up against a wall, and I get sniped around the corner. On the kill cam replay, it makes it look like I was standing two steps out in the middle like a noob.
Quite simply, Arena is proving the overall problems with Tarkov. What each player is seeing doesn't match.
I enjoy warming up in arena being a casual but I don't play it long.
You missed one big thing
The game itself!
Even if you take away the progression system, matchmaking, the desync, the unbalanced kits - the game itself is still lacking any DEPTH.
Take other shooter games like CS, R6S, Valorant, and even not competitive games like Squad, Insurgency, BF.
They all have some sort of a game mode. It is not just "spawn into a paintball playfield and kill everyone".
They have an objective, and the maps are built with those objective in mind. Not just a random mess of covers that don't have any purpose.
There is a dimension of tactic, strategy, teamplay, game sense.
CS for example is a very simple game. It doesn't have all the complex mechanics you have in Tarkov. no healing system or height over bore... but the way the game is balanced around a simple objective creates a whole world of tactical gameplay, coordination and a wide set of skills you need to master in order to win.
It is a very easy game to understand but very hard to master. and this is what makes it so successful.
When there is no objective to the game mode besides kill the other team, and the maps are symmetric to the point that there is no reason for the enemy to be in one place more than the other - you just get a random clash between players. There are no decisions to make - you go left, go right, or middle, eventually you'll run into someone.
This lack of depth is what will make this game feel boring even if they will fix everything else. there is just no GAME here, just a map to spawn in and shoot people. this is also why it is so un-interesting to watch.
So if they really want to make Arena a good competitive shooter, they need to introduce some sort of an objective game mode and get rid of the symmetric random map layout they have. This by itself will create a whole dimension for the game of strategy, game sense and teamplay.
absolutely disagree, all the covers have purpose and i actually use everything possible to hide and take new covers. Play Bowl, play Airpit, and that can be absolutely hyper tactical, even on equator. Not in the same way as Valorant or CS. I stopped playing CS because it's always the same angle on every maps, throw smokes there and there, flash there... boring as fuck. when we play as premade team, we tend to also play against a premade team, we manage to change tactics trough rounds to counter enemy positions.
@@SuperGenmo we can all tell your parents never gave u attention
@@SuperGenmo
Ofc you use the covers. like you use the cover in a paintball game. there is no objective besides you hiding behind cover and shooting other people. that's the point.
you are not defending anything, not attacking anything.
Saying that CS is "boring as fuck"... clearly you have no idea. The amount of possibilities in CS is INFINITE in comparison to Arena.
Yes there are many reasons not to like CS, it is not for everyone. But this game is the god of competitive shooters. it is more than 20 years old and still evolving. there is a reason for that.
you can't compete that with a 3 lane airsoft maps with no game mode.
Literally every match in arena looks the same. I can still remember some exciting CS matches I had years ago. tell me if you are going to remember any Arena game you played.. they are all unmemorable.
you can't play smart, you can't surprise or be surprised by anything. you know what is going to happen and the only question is who is going to die less.
Imagine a game mode so bad that you actually need to put AI bots and rng elements to determine who will win a round... very competitive.
@@tzav i played cs at competitive levels. i remember games where's there's clutch and everything linked to good plays that you can do in arena too as long as you play as a team. Do i remember games when i played with random people on cs ? no. do i get surprised after seeing same strategy on every maps? i remember learning all fucking smokes, flash, he nade, glitch, climbing on my ally head to get a line, all wallbang possible. so yeah, after years of playing i get bored.
I don't get why strategy can't be used in tarkov arena? in bowl you can split your team in a 4-1 and rush with a flash and nades like you can do in CS. you can be agressive to take mid control with the helicopter. it's not the same as CS or Valorant, i get it. But Strategy can be applied.
reading you guys seems like it's impossible to enjoy tarkov arena. there's a lot of issues but i still enjoy the sensation of shooting. it's pvp tarkov without losing time getting geared, without looking for players who shit their pants camping in a bush or in a corner for 20 minutes.
@@SuperGenmo it can be fun but it is still braindead.
The strategies you can have there are primitive compared to other games. Like comparing tic tac toe to chess.
There is very little depth to it if any.
I didn't realize how far in the minority I was, I've been enjoying arena since the wipe. I'm through all assault and cqb tier 1 classes and closing out my tier 1 scout. Scout is absolute pain though, I'm excited to pick up the DMRs and be putting out higher damage with no armor instead of lower damage lol.
I hope more fixes come to bring the community back to the game, but all in all I'm having good fun.
Look at the twitch numbers for this game and yea youll see how far you are in the minority
The only time I'll ever touch arena is if I can queue a match inside of the normal EFT game.
Bullets not counting or hitting someone 19 times vs their 1 and it’s not a headshot is infuriating
And every time they patch I feel like it gets worse
And the new map is way to open
Their needs to be more walls or paths
People can snipe the other team right off the bat
I went 0 in 14 since Arena wipe. Now I just wait for the respawn mode since the tdm with waiting for respawns is boring.
i think the biggest problem about the state of arena is the Performance issue. Matchmaking xp and gear sets could be better but its the 2nd wipe for arena. i give them time to learn. The server issues is what the kills the game. Im getting smackt by server legs or bad hitregistration very often. hope they fix this fast..
I agree with a lot of stuff you said but the one thing I disagree on is making the mechanics more “accessible”.
As a 1’st wipe Tarkov player the only reason I play arena is to practice the mechanics and gunplay for the main game as it’s the only way to get into multiple fights fast other than factory