wasnt expecting bethlehem to have a reaction video lol. they kinda border dsbm. the vocals are ridiculous but they have a sincerity about them sort of like hes having a mental breakdown
"wasn't expecting to see a reaction to ______" might as well be my slogan. I like to explore music that doesn't get a lot of attention in the main reaction circles. Stick around for more deep cuts!
Rainer Landfermann is definetly my favorite vocalist. I have heard a lot of insane vocals but he does it in a way that it's believable unlike other vocalists like for example Nattram from Silencer. Those are just too funny.
@@jayman3873 Somebody recommended me Silencer a couple of weeks ago, and I checked it out, but didn't like it because of the vocals. This is definitely better, but still... it's an acquired taste which I haven't acquired yet. I'm into black/death metal for more than 20 years already but this is something else 🙂
Many people speculate that Rainer is Nattramn really, their vocals are pretty similar to each other. Also the sudden disappearance of Rainer for a while is suspicious, and as Nattramn didn't reveal his true identity yet, I believe he was, indeed, Rainer Landfermann
@@pipipipipipipipi_ lol nah his voice is very different. Also his appearance if you look at pics. Like his hair is very different and his figure. I personally can't stand the vocals of Nattram cause they sound too funny and not believable. And Silencer is swedish.
@@natalie-kj4om well I think Rainer could play a role in Silencer, and the pictures of Nattramn maybe aren't real iykyk they could just get some other guy to do the photoshoot the vocals are pretty similar in range and in Silencer there is just more strain on them
I love your reaction at the beginning lol. And to think this track is an album opener! This is one of my favorite black metal albums - the absolutely crazy vocals, vicious guitar riffs, drumming that never gets boring (can be a problem in this genre). It can take a while to "get it", but it's worh it. And I have to say, I disagree with the request note - Bethlehem isn't a DSBM band. Depression and suicide are often the themes, but the band has this aggressive and sometimes sardonic approach, while typical DSBM band is pure sadness and misery (but not in a negative way, if that makes sense). As for the lyrics, those are heavily metaphorical, surreal, or just nonsensical, like this part from next song on the album: "Avoiding death means losing the game of banishment my smell is the depravity, all the empty milk bottles are reflected in my surface"
and the album title means: You have to kill yourself. It is sardonic (Lufstaeht's Blaeh - on the SUIZID album is a good example), but they are one of the forefathers of the BDSM scene. Bartsch has had a couple of hangman episodes (more close people killed themselves observable) that inspired him a lot to do these albums.
@@j.67That's from the song Aphel-Die schwarze Schlange from the same album, true. The whole Bethlehem catalogue is full of such weird lines, I would even dare to say that they got more surreal on albums after Dictius te necare. The radio drama sequences on Schatten aus der Alexander Welt contain some of the most bizarre lyrics I know, I"d say up there with stuff like The Residents, Captain Beefheart and Scott Walker's last solo record.
Think of this in the 'atmospheric metal' lens discussion over My Dying Bride. It's a similar prism, this band called it 'dark metal' to differentiate from the black metal base. The unhinged screaming is attached to an overwhelming sense of alienation in the lyric, married to a misanthropic aloofness that indicates a heavy dissociation from the moral and reality of this world, yet the physical pain is a constant reminder that as far out as the brain has gone behind the written lyric of this music, existence remains an insufferable bore. That's the emotional mix here, and it's inscrutable because of language barriers but also layers of metal history obfuscation: why this particular type of heavy metal with this particular fast - slow dichotomy, with this vocal? Chasing the genealogy is convoluted in nerd genre terms. There is an element of humour here, there is poetry, there is beauty. Not all of this is melodramatic and flowery, some of it is quite, for a lack of better term modern in execution, it's sardonic but often apologetic and yeah totally unhinged when considered on relation to the vocal delivery. I think discussion of the vocal overshadows the interesting music, but I wouldn't generally suggest a deep immersion in this style because its aesthetic underpinnings are also its philosophical underpinnings: music inspired by opiates, for people who are suffering on this world, often talking of the topic of suicide. How much of this one needs in their lives up to each listener, my interest is protected from an ironic distance afforded by actually understanding enough about what's going on here to know that it's having a conversation with itself and I am listening in, it's not instructive to me. Limits to that sort of voyeuristic interest in things like this. Bethlehem are quite interesting and often amazing but it's bad vibes all around the band
An interesting fact about the vocals: Jürgen Barsch (bassist, main composer and basically boss of the band) once told, the vocalist Rainer Landfermann only could sing 3 song back in days before his voice broke, which is the main reason, why they never performed live with him.
Wow this is my first time listening to this band and yea I agree I'm not a big fan but I'm a quarter of the way in checking out the vocalist newest solo album (rainer landfermann) and man's it's pretty cool Avant garde musical ride so far and the production is actually good.
Very... Silencer inducing "anxiety" music (though this band came waaaay before Silencer)... but more in control of the emotions they want to express. I love Dictius Te Necare. It's my favorite from this band. Haven't listened to the last one from them, but Bethlehem from 2016 was pretty good too, and way more experimental. I also like Onielar a lot, so that's another plus. It is some black metal, some dsbm too... but I think there's more in there, they were kinda setting the stage for dark metal I guess, but I can't say I know many more bands that adopted this genre. I think over the years it turned out to be more a style of their own.
Hello from New England..Yes I agree bro...that tasty cymbal work really lessens the Black in Black Metal in this case....otherwise solid playing throughout that def would appeal to a certain audience...Peace from the Northeast.....
I downloaded some of their albums a couple of months ago, but didn't really give it a good listen. I really like a lot of black metal, but man, this is something else, especially with those vocals, don't know if I can get into that. Your reaction is great to watch haha
Wtf calling Bethlehem „one of the first DSBM bands“? That guy lost his mind. All that wrong DSBM info about lyrical themes got you in a totally wrong mindset about what that Band, that song are about.
Bethlehem had nothing to do with DSBM scene. They have always been original with their sound and this album was definitely something out of the box in every aspect.
@@mahamrityumjay Bethlehem were a crucial part for DSBM though, hence why they are considered pioneers, along with Forgotten Woods, abyssic hate, strid , early mutiilation, early burzum etc... Dark Metal & dictius influenced a ton of bands including lifelover, hypothermia etc...
I agree that Bethlehem don't have to do anything with DSBM and also don't want to, but still their sound was a huge influence on the sound of DSBM. So one might consider them unintentional pioneers.
I'm not the biggest fan of the rawer, punkish forms of BM to begin with, but add these kind of hardcore-ish vocals and making them so front-and-center and that combination made this a really tough listen for me. Definitely not my jam, though I will say I appreciated some of the riffing and the calmer, more atmospheric moments. But to quote the great Randy Jackson, it's a no for me, dawg.
maybe consider checking out anaal nathrakh track "tod hueted uebel", where vocals done by this vocalist i can only describe "chorus" part as "symphony of scream" (not that familiar with vocalist to know if it's that unique for him, but still😅 )
You gotta listen to Shining (at least albums after The Eerie Cold) to get a grasp of really experimental and suprisingly technical black metal in the same vein of Bethlehem (which vocalist of Shining admits being influenced by them and had an albu with them in fact) and mixes black metal with 70's prog, folk, blues, jazz and doom. Highly recommended.
It is time for the legend of Black Metal, Burzum. Dunkelheit is my recommendation for your first listen. When i first listened to this song, i felt that the walls of my room were freezing. Very cold and transcendental atmosphere.
With everything else in the track, finding out that the lyrical themes on this one aren’t typical dsbm fare was wildly disappointing. Those vocals are perfect for communicating the sort of emotional anguish you normally find there.
Only a few minutes in, and I can already tell this is one of those bands that does themselves an extreme disservice with their purposefully poor production. This is one of those songs I would love with just slightly more thought put into the transitions and production, it certainly has the energy, merely lacking the sonic weight to bring through the “vibe” it’s going for. For more in this style, I would hope someone suggests ghost bath, they do the same genre, but in a much more emotionally “parseable” way, similarly digestible, but easier to “feel”. The production (especially vocally) is better, and composition is not based in the “avant-gardeness” of the sounds and textures in terms of their time, but rather in the sounds and textures as a colour and tool to create a composition.
Well it was recorded 1995/1996 and they had to release it on a small and at that time unknown US label (Red Stream Inc.). There just wasn’t enough budget for a better production. But most fans would say it’s fitting anyway.
Rainer Landfermann recently released a solo album and his vocals seem to have held up pretty well. So whatever he's doing, it's working for him.
What's the album?
@@sonnywilliams4847its in his youtube channel bro
@@sonnywilliams4847Mein Wort in Deiner Dunkelheit, but you probably already found it
@@sonnywilliams4847either: Mein Wort in Deiner Dunkelheit (2019) or Mehr Licht (2023) since those are his only solo albums that I know of
wasnt expecting bethlehem to have a reaction video lol. they kinda border dsbm. the vocals are ridiculous but they have a sincerity about them sort of like hes having a mental breakdown
"wasn't expecting to see a reaction to ______" might as well be my slogan. I like to explore music that doesn't get a lot of attention in the main reaction circles. Stick around for more deep cuts!
Rainer Landfermann is definetly my favorite vocalist. I have heard a lot of insane vocals but he does it in a way that it's believable unlike other vocalists like for example Nattram from Silencer. Those are just too funny.
Rainer is definitely one of a kind in metal. Nobody matches his emotional intensity.
@@jayman3873 Somebody recommended me Silencer a couple of weeks ago, and I checked it out, but didn't like it because of the vocals. This is definitely better, but still... it's an acquired taste which I haven't acquired yet. I'm into black/death metal for more than 20 years already but this is something else 🙂
Many people speculate that Rainer is Nattramn really, their vocals are pretty similar to each other. Also the sudden disappearance of Rainer for a while is suspicious, and as Nattramn didn't reveal his true identity yet, I believe he was, indeed, Rainer Landfermann
@@pipipipipipipipi_ lol nah his voice is very different. Also his appearance if you look at pics. Like his hair is very different and his figure. I personally can't stand the vocals of Nattram cause they sound too funny and not believable. And Silencer is swedish.
@@natalie-kj4om well I think Rainer could play a role in Silencer, and the pictures of Nattramn maybe aren't real iykyk they could just get some other guy to do the photoshoot
the vocals are pretty similar in range and in Silencer there is just more strain on them
I love your reaction at the beginning lol. And to think this track is an album opener! This is one of my favorite black metal albums - the absolutely crazy vocals, vicious guitar riffs, drumming that never gets boring (can be a problem in this genre). It can take a while to "get it", but it's worh it.
And I have to say, I disagree with the request note - Bethlehem isn't a DSBM band. Depression and suicide are often the themes, but the band has this aggressive and sometimes sardonic approach, while typical DSBM band is pure sadness and misery (but not in a negative way, if that makes sense).
As for the lyrics, those are heavily metaphorical, surreal, or just nonsensical, like this part from next song on the album:
"Avoiding death means
losing the game of banishment
my smell is the depravity,
all the empty milk bottles are reflected
in my surface"
and the album title means: You have to kill yourself. It is sardonic (Lufstaeht's Blaeh - on the SUIZID album is a good example), but they are one of the forefathers of the BDSM scene. Bartsch has had a couple of hangman episodes (more close people killed themselves observable) that inspired him a lot to do these albums.
if i'm not mistaken, a review on the long gone SSMT website translated a lyric about a tuna fish jumping from scalding water
@@j.67That's from the song Aphel-Die schwarze Schlange from the same album, true. The whole Bethlehem catalogue is full of such weird lines, I would even dare to say that they got more surreal on albums after Dictius te necare. The radio drama sequences on Schatten aus der Alexander Welt contain some of the most bizarre lyrics I know, I"d say up there with stuff like The Residents, Captain Beefheart and Scott Walker's last solo record.
A standard-bearer for vocal extremity.
Big crybaby energy
Think of this in the 'atmospheric metal' lens discussion over My Dying Bride. It's a similar prism, this band called it 'dark metal' to differentiate from the black metal base. The unhinged screaming is attached to an overwhelming sense of alienation in the lyric, married to a misanthropic aloofness that indicates a heavy dissociation from the moral and reality of this world, yet the physical pain is a constant reminder that as far out as the brain has gone behind the written lyric of this music, existence remains an insufferable bore. That's the emotional mix here, and it's inscrutable because of language barriers but also layers of metal history obfuscation: why this particular type of heavy metal with this particular fast - slow dichotomy, with this vocal? Chasing the genealogy is convoluted in nerd genre terms. There is an element of humour here, there is poetry, there is beauty. Not all of this is melodramatic and flowery, some of it is quite, for a lack of better term modern in execution, it's sardonic but often apologetic and yeah totally unhinged when considered on relation to the vocal delivery. I think discussion of the vocal overshadows the interesting music, but I wouldn't generally suggest a deep immersion in this style because its aesthetic underpinnings are also its philosophical underpinnings: music inspired by opiates, for people who are suffering on this world, often talking of the topic of suicide. How much of this one needs in their lives up to each listener, my interest is protected from an ironic distance afforded by actually understanding enough about what's going on here to know that it's having a conversation with itself and I am listening in, it's not instructive to me. Limits to that sort of voyeuristic interest in things like this. Bethlehem are quite interesting and often amazing but it's bad vibes all around the band
Well 🤔 I definitely know what song I am having play during my wedding dance 👌
One of my favourite metal albums ever. The intensity of the vocals is unparalleled.
An interesting fact about the vocals: Jürgen Barsch (bassist, main composer and basically boss of the band) once told, the vocalist Rainer Landfermann only could sing 3 song back in days before his voice broke, which is the main reason, why they never performed live with him.
Oh my god, no way you did this song/album! The translated lyrics are very cryptic as well, I can’t wait to watch your reaction to this!
Ohh, Bethlehem! Nice!
Wow this is my first time listening to this band and yea I agree I'm not a big fan but I'm a quarter of the way in checking out the vocalist newest solo album (rainer landfermann) and man's it's pretty cool Avant garde musical ride so far and the production is actually good.
Very... Silencer inducing "anxiety" music (though this band came waaaay before Silencer)... but more in control of the emotions they want to express. I love Dictius Te Necare. It's my favorite from this band. Haven't listened to the last one from them, but Bethlehem from 2016 was pretty good too, and way more experimental. I also like Onielar a lot, so that's another plus. It is some black metal, some dsbm too... but I think there's more in there, they were kinda setting the stage for dark metal I guess, but I can't say I know many more bands that adopted this genre. I think over the years it turned out to be more a style of their own.
Hello from New England..Yes I agree bro...that tasty cymbal work really lessens the Black in Black Metal in this case....otherwise solid playing throughout that def would appeal to a certain audience...Peace from the Northeast.....
this is the best album interms of vocal! period!
The lyrics fit. They almost make sense, but no. 😂
This composer doesn't even have a keyboard or a guitar. Don't waste your time on this vague reaction.
Oh boy... No one is ever prepared for this.
Surprisingly great and deep analysis, thank you!
I appreciate your reviews man. Keep making them and I'll keep watching:)
And it took us over a year to get vektor lmao
This was an experience hahaha
No kidding. I like to think I'm prepared for most things that get brought to my ears but I really wasn't here :)
I downloaded some of their albums a couple of months ago, but didn't really give it a good listen. I really like a lot of black metal, but man, this is something else, especially with those vocals, don't know if I can get into that. Your reaction is great to watch haha
Please a React to *"Knorkator - Weg nach unten"* this will be great nice vid ;)
greetings from germany
Omg, I love Knorkator, despite being from the UK. Absolution would be a better choice don’t you think?
Wtf calling Bethlehem „one of the first DSBM bands“? That guy lost his mind. All that wrong DSBM info about lyrical themes got you in a totally wrong mindset about what that Band, that song are about.
Bethlehem had nothing to do with DSBM scene. They have always been original with their sound and this album was definitely something out of the box in every aspect.
@@mahamrityumjay Bethlehem were a crucial part for DSBM though, hence why they are considered pioneers, along with Forgotten Woods, abyssic hate, strid , early mutiilation, early burzum etc... Dark Metal & dictius influenced a ton of bands including lifelover, hypothermia etc...
I agree that Bethlehem don't have to do anything with DSBM and also don't want to, but still their sound was a huge influence on the sound of DSBM. So one might consider them unintentional pioneers.
What is this Brian? So many videos. I love it.
Found this album when I was 13❤️ loved it ever since
Same
One of the most iconic song ( and screams) ....
I'm not the biggest fan of the rawer, punkish forms of BM to begin with, but add these kind of hardcore-ish vocals and making them so front-and-center and that combination made this a really tough listen for me. Definitely not my jam, though I will say I appreciated some of the riffing and the calmer, more atmospheric moments. But to quote the great Randy Jackson, it's a no for me, dawg.
I would suggest reaction to russian epic doom metal band Scald. Especially the song In the Open Sea
maybe consider checking out anaal nathrakh track "tod hueted uebel", where vocals done by this vocalist
i can only describe "chorus" part as "symphony of scream"
(not that familiar with vocalist to know if it's that unique for him, but still😅 )
One of my favorite albums of all time
You gotta listen to Shining (at least albums after The Eerie Cold) to get a grasp of really experimental and suprisingly technical black metal in the same vein of Bethlehem (which vocalist of Shining admits being influenced by them and had an albu with them in fact) and mixes black metal with 70's prog, folk, blues, jazz and doom. Highly recommended.
try with Corpo Mente - four songs Live at Improve Tone Studios 2015
Arsalein,Ort,Dorma,Encell
or Igorr - ieuD
It's a much older video but I've checked out that Igorrr track before ua-cam.com/video/UC_zCXFKYdg/v-deo.html
@@CriticalReactions :)
NINGEN ISU - The Colour out of Space, Great king of terror?
or I know,Slay Squad - BEAM!! this is sick sick six :D
Delightful!
Check out “Follow The Hunt - Der Junge” 💥
great album love their early stuff- need some silencer and lifelover reactions next
It is time for the legend of Black Metal, Burzum. Dunkelheit is my recommendation for your first listen. When i first listened to this song, i felt that the walls of my room were freezing. Very cold and transcendental atmosphere.
Jesu Død is better
@@fouter81 Dunkelheit is a better gateway.
@@cpfantastic5576 I would say after hearing this Bethlehem he doesn't really needs to be gatewayed into stuff 🙂
But in general I agree.
I was introduced to Burzum through "Beholding the Daughters of the Firmament" and it threw me down the spiral to finally appreciate black metal.
It's 2022 nobody cares about Burzum lol
🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤
With everything else in the track, finding out that the lyrical themes on this one aren’t typical dsbm fare was wildly disappointing. Those vocals are perfect for communicating the sort of emotional anguish you normally find there.
Only a few minutes in, and I can already tell this is one of those bands that does themselves an extreme disservice with their purposefully poor production. This is one of those songs I would love with just slightly more thought put into the transitions and production, it certainly has the energy, merely lacking the sonic weight to bring through the “vibe” it’s going for. For more in this style, I would hope someone suggests ghost bath, they do the same genre, but in a much more emotionally “parseable” way, similarly digestible, but easier to “feel”.
The production (especially vocally) is better, and composition is not based in the “avant-gardeness” of the sounds and textures in terms of their time, but rather in the sounds and textures as a colour and tool to create a composition.
I'm pretty sure the recording quality at least, was not intentionally lo-fi.
Well it was recorded 1995/1996 and they had to release it on a small and at that time unknown US label (Red Stream Inc.). There just wasn’t enough budget for a better production. But most fans would say it’s fitting anyway.