Massive Earth Tube Installation Begins | Geothermal Cooling
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Excavation and installation begins on the earth tube air conditioning system for our off-grid house.
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I was half expecting Jim to hand the can back to Jess to open for him. 🤣
There is a geothermal constant in most areas of the earth that hardly changes year round & is unaffected by weather. The only difference is the depth. This is the reason that half buried underground houses are so thermally efficient. Well done.
I believe that the standard world wide depth is 12feet for 55 degrees Fahrenheit. I've watched hours and hours of Earthship home builds and how they have mastered the AC solution, not sure how these pipes might work out in long term, cracking, freezing, crushing in over time. But with the holes dug already, steel corrugated pipes conduct temps better than plastic which is an insulator, plus the risk of those thin pvc pipes... I dont know if I would have done that. hope it all works out
I just LOVE watching all of the great things that you two get accomplished!!!
Go Jimmy Go!👍👍Ive seen that type of Cooling system and they work Gooood! And they are a 1 time expense, which is a bonus. Priceless moment with Yuvee sittin on that big mountain of dirt patrolling the homestead scene....😂🤣💙Shes a hoot. Gitter done, be blessed yoo all. 🙏🙏🇺🇸
I'm looking forward to watch this whole video when I finish my work outside today. Before I forget to post a note here, I wanted to add a reminder to myself to let people know that I used this same system in Oregon in 1979. There one thing that this system is also very useful for. If you can lay the piping at a slight grade away from the structure, you will find out that as the air cools, the moisture will condense and run back down the cooling tubes where it can be gathered in a cistern. This is pure water (essentially distilled) that can be used to supplement other water systems or as a source of drinkable water if the main source has issues that make it less than desirable for cooking and drinking. It's just a thought that someone may want to try. On this homesite it would be harder to do because the ground is so flat that it would be hard to set the tube at a grade and you would have to dig a large hole to install a collection and pumping tank. I property had enough grade that I was able to simply gather the water at the air intake and install a line back to the house.
My Gramma, what straight lines you have. The better to cool you, my dears.
Congratulations, another step completed. It's going to be fun to see how it all will work
Wow lots of hard work you three. And I noticed more birds are showing up😊. Thank you for sharing.
I always think digging that deep that fossils and dinosaur bones would be found!
😂i was thinking the same thing
unfamiliar with this kind of cooling. Looks fascinating and very practical.
If done right, it should provide cooling with no electricity. Maybe even a little heat in the winter.
It took me a few videos to realize but you are now uploading in 1080! So exciting!!!
13:40 Using the two jar system of pvc glue it is good practise to tape the two jars together so the chance of knocking any of them over is slim to none...
every time i open one it is a solid chunk
There's no reason or benefit to using primer in low/no pressure installations like this anyway. Waste of time and money.
This comment exactly. I learned this trick from an old marina owner when I was a dock hand. It's an excellent pro tip.
@mosbysmen if you store them upside down they won't be like that. I have had glue and primer last 5 plus years just from how I store them.make sure they are tight but upside down changes it enormously..
Dude!!! I was always taught to never ever get in a trench over your head without shoring. Never. Even a few pieces of plywood and some scrap 2x4s. Plus without someone working above, if it did start to cave in, you have no help. We also place empty 5 gal. buckets along the trench so if it fails someone could put a bucket on your head in case it covers you completely. Being in a trench is no joke my friend. Especially when heavy equipment is above . I don't want to hear about a popular You Tuber that dies in a trench collapse. Also, nice shooting range. A cooler full of brew and a bucket full of ammo and your all set. Stay safe.
He's not alone, Jess was up top filming.
You sir are correct, any jobsite I've worked on the foreman would have had a fit
So exciting! Looking great. Wonderful progress
So happy for you guys!!
Awesome job 💯👍👍👍. You both totally Rock 🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻 lots of love and hugs to you too from Indiana 🇱🇷🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻
Have not seen you people for a long time glad to see you'll are still at it really enjoy watching your videos - life takes so many changes - but Its always one foot forward and eyes open and brain learning take care.
Welcome back! We have a video just about every weekend.
Could you explain the need for the holes and whether you have the holes facing up or down? Thank you! This is a very interesting idea. We look forward to you explaining more about how it works. 😊
When the air is cooled, moisture will condense. The holes will drain the moisture into the gravel. Of course the holes face down
Holes were drilled facing up along the writing to keep it straight. Then, rotated down to allow drainage of moisture. 15:43 shows holes down as the angled connector is put on. Airflow through the ground loop can be forced or natural based on design. There is an alternative closed loop system using 3/4 " polytube filled with water/glycol mix connected to a pump and radiator with fan to exchange thermal energy. A 400 ' run with 2 trenches 100' long works very well. Up and down each trench with the 3/4" polytubing. Considering the very dry subsurface soil there, I'd go with airflow through the pipe. No danger of mold growth in their buried pipes.
@@saxonsoldier67 So this cheaper system would only work well in well drained arid locations? That limits its usefulness. Even with holes down on gravel, how long until it saturates with soil? 5-10 years? That seems foolish. Can that thin walled PVC pipe handle that amount of weight of wet soil without distorting and breaking over time? I think I would go for a more expensive closed loop system, or maybe ceramic pipe. Why chintz on the pipe after paying for that excavator?
@@TungB Valid concerns. That PVC pipe is capable of being buried much deeper than the 5' shown. There in that desert region, it is a great choice and will likely last 100 years or more. The only critiques I could have is to dig a wider trench in order to have a pipe on each bottom edge 4' apart and a few feet deeper. 1 trench, 2 pipes. Whenever there are ground moisture issues, a closed loop system would make more sense. A closed system requires a pump, fan, and radiator to exchange the thermal energy. The system in this video will be a passive system perhaps with a backup fan to move air through it if needed. Every location requires appropriate changes in materials and techniques. The inexpensive system shown here is simple and could be done for $1 k including the backhoe rental. It fits in well with their DIY homestead. By all means, you could spend much more and get better results.
@@TungBthe soil is so dry there, I doubt saturation will be a problem, but that thin-walled pipe is a shjt show waiting to happen.
The trench guy did great !! Can't wait to see how this works , how it's designed, great work !!
ah, a rare sighting of the north american fluffy-licker-barn-swallow. a native bird species known for their fondness of humans. and the food the humans offer.
Uvee claiming the gun range as her poop range 1st thing. Worked great! Thanks, Dad, for clearing up the land so I don't have to dig up a clean spot to poop without weeds tickling my booty.
9000 comments about the holes filling with water and radon gas. I see what you did there! Way to get your numbers up! hahaha jk. I always trust that you and Jess both have researched and know what you are doing with tons of examples and videos watched as templates before you the stuff you do. The sheer cost alone warrants gathering as much info prior to engaging any project.
Folks get a bit impatient with no 'splainin, even tho you did splain. I like it, I want to see it working when its done. Every other comment is filled with suggestions of how to do it better. The work you both get done is awesome, especially when you consider there is only 2 of you working on your projects. Its not like you have 4 or so teenage kids helping Mom and Dad build your multiple projects...random shiny thought.
You should consider adding a large diameter "air collector" on the inlet side to catch as much air as possible. Just a thought in case you haven't already thought of it LOL Looking great!
And filter
I like that kind of natural ac. Any concerns about radon?
@@buydirectusa4954I wonder about that as well. Maybe they live in a place with minimal radon?
I think this is a great idea and I'm really excited to watch how it's done
Great job!!!!!!! And the guy did an excellent job on those trenches.
I'm excited to see how this all comes together. It'll be awesome.
Thanks for sharing 😀👍
Your valley has deep alluvial soil, you could grow a Forest on that land. 🤠
I like that shooting range! That's something we wanted to do as well. Now you just got two 100' snake traps in your yard, haha
Geothermal has been around for centuries 😊
And it has been sadly ignored, even though it is a + for the planet.
That's a backhoe a excavator is much bigger with tracks, Looks like he did a good job for you. keep an eye on that trench . Jim you are one work horse just think of the money that project will save 👍👍GOOD JOB GUYS LOOKS GREAT.
I worked for a company in Oz that did geothermal heating/cooling. 50m of piping down drilled holes. This would get to the cooler constant temp. Thus, just running the water pump through the heat exchanger gave an air temp in the home close to 23 degrees C. Back in the 90s, it was expensive as it was also a fully ducted system. We also did a job at the State Electricity companys Economical Showhouse.
Now this looks cool!
Can't wait to hear about the cool air resonating from those PVC pipes 😬👍
Looking forward to seeing your progress 👍
It is a dirty job but someone has got to do it.
It’s going to be nice when that is done Jim and Jess where you guys waited for a long time to get it done and happy had other things to do until this day. God bless you both and keep safe from your friend in Southern Alberta Canada.
Wow ya'll, great job, goes to prove when there's a will there's a way. 👍👍👍✌✌✌💚💚💚
Love the berm for target practice ❤
I love this and will be doing it for my shop in Wisconsin.
Next time, use a "Step Drill Bit" That's precisely what they're made for, so they can make the desired size hole, without cracking the material.
Judging by the rocks, might need Dynamite 🤣🤣💥💥
Gotta say… Anybody pulling up to your place with ill intent will take one look at your private shooting range and decide to keep driving🤣
will be worth it even more when you have nice cool air - won't be long - good to go big
Yay looking amazing
I see your guard dogs on work on top of that mound of dirt. She’s doing her job very good.
Edging towards 100K subs, great and real content! You two should weather through these stormy times just fine... God bless your persistence!
I've really wanted to see this sweet thanks 👍
Hey guys, looking good. I like that you are using the natural way to do everything around your property. Any time you can make your life better by using a natural way of doing it is better than having a big machine sucking your energy from your solar system.
I will be watching this because I will probably do something like this when I build my home in Thailand. ❤
That’s a lot of dirt and rock and pipe that you handled there. I can’t wait to see how that works out. I see you have a southwestern United States, Dog Bird at your feeder😂
cooling is going to be so nice when it's working!
That was awesome ❤
I believe that I would've just continued with the pvc to the end of the trench. A little more length can only help and pvc is cheap.
Beautiful, can’t wait to see the rest
Its a good video! wish list is :explain how it works?
Just a comment to make you aware, the guy dug a ditch left too much dirt in the bottom with every foot you go down to spoil needs to be a foot away from the ditch and because how deep you are by law you have to have shoring so I pray that you’re safebesides that is not deep enough to get down to where the cooling really is but it’ll help I spent over 50 years running heavy equipment
Dog, "the bad news is my tail is the only toy that I have , the good news is it goes ever where I go!!!"
😮 Is that memo Silva? He does great work! I’m super excited for yall! Love to help ya test out that range. 😂
That was Memo!
This is so interesting!
you should do this for the power house as well and use the ac unit as back up
Man that was some excellent Backhoe work!
Step bits are so good for drilling plastic
Ed c
Forget the geothermal thingy, you had me at gun range! 👍
Love these weekly updates you guys are so inspirational!!
I’ll be out there offgrade one day myself too
Use a spade drill bit for drilling thin materials, especially PVC.
I'm very interested to see how the Earth tube system works.
Jim and Jess, I think the holes in the pipes go facing down. It avoids water filtration when it rains. I am not sure about it, but I care a lot about you, and wish you check on this.
No matter if is supposed to go up, down, or maybe to the side, could you explain it to us so we will learn? You are good at taking us into a learning process in a way we understand.
Take care guys.
love you guys!!
hi there looks good , john
That is cool my friends I love what you all are doing.
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Cool stuff 😎💨
Maybe you can explain how the system works, and why you do certain things..like the holes purpose, the lengths of tube needed for how much air you want, ect...would be so cool to get a blow by blow account of what you are doing in the trenches !! lol good work
Why would you bother sealing the pipes together when you are drilling holes in the pipe?
The holes are messed up. Dude is confused between a septic system and his air conditioning project which is proof a little information is dangerous. Well, when they are done, they will know how not to do this 😆
The basic idea is pull outside air through the tubes which will be cooled or heated to the ground temperature. In practice you need to do a lot of calculations. Installing small diameter upstand tubes to the main tubes at regular intervals will allow you to measure the temperature of the air as it travels through the tubing. You can use that information to optimize the performance and efficiency. If the air drops to the ground temperature in the first 15ft of tube, the remaining 85ft of tubing wont be doing anything for you. If the system uses fans to pull the air through the tubing you`ll need to choose a fan that can deliver the required air flow and pressure. A 100ft, 6" diameter straight tube running 150cfm will require a fan capable of delivering 150cfm @ 0.2" wc. The velocity in the tube will be 12.75ft per second and the air will take less than 8 seconds to travel through the tube. You can calculate the heat transfer from the cfm, inlet air temp and humidity and outlet air temp and humidity.
@@JohnGuest45 thank
Congratulations. The dream is happening.
Deer are dropping there babies all over my property. FAWNS EVERY WHERE. Been leaving the grass high, for some cover for them to hide in. I love my deer. I watch over them.. The mamas comes by my window, showing them off to me 🤣🤣 OMG SPEAK OF THE DEVIL THERE SHE IS RIGHT NOW 👀 BY MY WINDOW with her babies > he hee looking at me. face to face 🤗🤗 GOT TO LOVE IT
Oh, how lucky you are!
Pics or it didn’t happen
They should be about grown by now. Ours are.
@@66bigbuds Cool. 👍👍 They still have there spots. There about 2 weeks old. and still feeding on MAMA Cute little devils
@@lanesteele240 Oh its happen! GOD IS MY WITTNESS
God bless you both!
Wow, Jim's an experienced pipe layer from way back! I guess instead of buy me a coffee... its buy me ammo... lol great job. I need a bulldozer at my place to put in my range.
That her shot at the range.
LOL.
Great job! Nice berm, too!
nice range
Also for future reference, for that non pressure pipe in a non pressure application, there is a glue called “fusion”. It’s sold at home improvement stores and it’s a single stage cement. No primer needed. Saves you a little bit of money over a bunch of pipe.
Use it watch you years ago and stopped because you kept digging holes in the ground and messing with those bags. Glad to see you finally going with a more conventional plan.
That’s funny
Great progress !
Great video!!, what is that huge 4 legged bird, I've never seen one of those before 😅.
Did you ever get moved in to your earthbag home? I hope that works out great and keeps you two cool in the summer and warm in the winter.
Please describe the plan how it works 😊
Good job ❤ from Worcester Massachusetts ❤
Just a fyi if you were to pull tape and drill at same time you would save one less step lol. Looking good! If I were a betting man, I'd bet that system will work better then you think!
If you have a well you can use it for heating and cooling
The concern i would have if this ends up being a high static which i sure of he will lose air presure with all those holes. I could see maybe few at the end or low points he planned but that many will change his amount he will receive out of the end unless he is pulling with a high static fan capable of overcoming the friction from such a small pipe.
At that point the number of holes will be a negative on the result.
FYI It is easier to glue your pipe together on the ground then drop it in the trench.
I'm interested to see how this works for you, Mother Earth News had a story back in the 80s of a guy down in FL who did this then added a 2 story tower in the middle of his house with vent he could open from the floor he showed paper floating in the air pulled up by the draft created by the hot air rising pulling in cool air from underground
STEP-DRILLS work fantastic for plastic pipe or anything plastic/ metal 😊 ❤ ❤
"We don't have to go that far to do some target practice, we can do it right here on the land". *Drools*
Also love seeing the trenches for the tubes.
Two questions:
1: Can you go over in the next video why the trenches are as deep, or lack of, as they are? Engineering bent minds want to know! 😅
2: can you go over why you chose to not use Landscapeing fabric around the gravel? Won't the dirt work it's way between the gravel over time and massively restrict, and eventually eliminate, the drainage advantage of the gravel?
Thanks very informative,I'll try it.
When you build up the gravel to just over the top might run a layer of landscape fabric then a layer of bags filled with soil. Then possibly another layer of landscape fabric and then backfill.
That would be overkill IMO in the dry subsurface soil there. The only danger is monsoon rains before they close the trench. The drilled holes were rotated facing down as seen at 15:43 when the angled connector was installed.
these systems are useful, if you can chlorinate them for legionaires disease, and also the pipe will be schedule 40 able to withstand the weight of the backfill...this earth cooled air needs to have a fan and timer and must run on a timer for even heat exchange with the soils and the pipe must be at least 1/3 the cubic feet of air in the dwelling! the warm air will be naturally cooled by the subsurface temps and naturally condensate forms and will accumulate which is the reason for the chlorination to prevent the deadly bacteria from forming in the moist environment
They won't have to worry about condensation because of the dry climate it's not likely that it would ever reach the dew point in the tube. I'm not sure why they opted for PVC versus septic drain tubing would have much better air exchange.
I have that exact same ladder.
Pipes in the ground is indeed a time tested solution, however by adding holes in the pipe and gravel under it, didnt you essentially create a larger version of the radon collection system you put in your floor.. except this will feed the radon inside instead of outside?
Rocks can give off radon.
You’re living my dream 👍👍
at the middle of each pipe if you had put t " T " pointing down into a 35 gall drum this would have collected the condensation , and like Uncle Owen on star-wars you would have been a moisture farmer
Yayyyyyy❤
🎶👍🏼 nice tune choice. 😊