Thank you everyone so much for the support on this video! When I posted I had no subscribers and didn’t expect to get any views at all, so seeing the positive response has been incredibly heartwarming 💕 As most of you have noticed, this is currently my only video. There are more coming! IRL I am a full-time graduate student in a field that’s not even remotely related to the topics I want to make videos essays on, so my upload schedule is guaranteed to be somewhat sporadic at least until graduation. But I do have scripts written that are waiting to be filmed and edited, so if you have the patience, I’d love it if you’d stick around :) Thank you again! Also: sorry about how quick the pause to read sections are! I wanted to keep this under 30 minutes so a lot of spare thoughts ended up as on-screen text instead of spoken words. In the future I will be sure to leave them up long enough to actually pause on, oopsies
I'm gonna save this video and watch it later after seeing the show, Haven't watched it since...well it first came out year's ago and wanna re watch it, subbed and gonna support ur channel, stopped at the: 1:09 mark, your amazing! 🙌😃
I think you did a great job - thank you for exploring this fascinating character! I have so many heartsnares when it comes to JJ, having been in a difficult abusive relationship some years ago... love the show so much
It's really well done, especially for your first one. You must of have had editing experience before this since it's so well put together. Looking forward to what you do next.
One thing I always appreciate is the ability of such a lovable person and generally mild mannered individual to get to play the villain- I’m not going to lie, I think that Doctor Who prepared him. It’s essentially that same self righteous behavior his Doctor scantly engaged in but directed in a totally selfish way totally out of coping pain. He’s high on the ability to control a world that hurt him. And you don’t know that until later, but he’s literally like a kid in a candy store- and then it gets boring and he turns very very sour. Just thinking about the darkness that Tennant somehow tapped into is chilling.
He will always be the most terrifying Marvel villain we've ever seen on screen, no grand plot, no godhood, just a twisted little boy in a man's body who can make anyone do any unspeakable act with just words. True horror.
Can we give a shout-out to Krysten's smile in the final confrontation? A smile that clearly never reaches her eyes, more of a grimace, really. Yet Kilgrave is so clueless about body language and genuine emotion, that he falls for it anyway, giving her the opening to kill him before he even knows what hit him. No massive action scene, just one clean shot to take him down.
“He’s also played by David Tennant soooo”….That part! Ugh the hardest part when I watched this back when it aired. I just…it was HARD to remind myself that he was disgustingly evil. “Grape” usually cements my hate and disgust for ANY character, but with DT playing him, GOD it was…confusing? Still, yeah, no. He’s evil and I laugh when he *spoiler* gets his neck snapped. He’s abhorrent. But I will say thank God he didn’t have his Scottish accent in this…
"There are almost know videos about him" I was astonished when the "one villainous scene" initiative was launched that nobody did a video on Kilgrave. Kilgrave as a villain and the Jessica Jones show itself is criminally under-discussed by content creators, IMO.
@@luigiboi4244 I think maybe the reason why people don't make videos is the subject matter of what he does isn't very YT friendly. Tennant was scary good, and he was the definition of too dangerous to be kept alive, but I admit I had kinda hoped him getting overpowered at the end of season 1 made it possible for him to transfer his memories into Jessica, or maybe Trish so he could have stuck around for 1 more season in one of their heads rather than just be a single hallucination episode and a voice at the end. If it was Trish her sudden heel turn could have felt a bit more organic, but I can see that for the showrunner and writers that it could be a tricky situation with how they wanted to message the show. Its just he's right up there with Kingpin, but even more sadistic and childish, and sadly none of the other antagonists came close, in season 3 I felt they had to bend over backward and twist the story for the pathetic serial killer to even resemble a threat. If you want the challenge to be fighting public perception they should have done something similar to a killer on Sherlock where it would make sense why the public and the police wouldn't listen to Jessica. They managed to do it with Mariah on Luke Cage.
I think he is the scariest and most realistic villain ever. Especially in the comics. Where love is totally taken out of the equation. The comic states he never raped her but he made her watch as he raped other girls. He loved the power he, quite literally, got off on it.
@@youtubestudiosucks978 not really the case here. He had no parents and he needed to rely on an incontrollable power for survival as a kid. Just telling someone go fuck yourself could have immense consequences, so when he grows up for at least 20 years ish with nobody telling him no and everything going his way, it shapes the way you think, especially as he never actually went back to look at people he previously controlled (aside from Jessica) cause he either didn't care or they were dead. Now if he'd been an incredibly righteous boy who had an iron clad moral code (like say Matt Murdock) he might have had a chance but as a kid who spent 6 years being ignored and abused by his parents then given ultimate power/control he never really had a chance at turning out good without some insane moral compass that he would need to be born with ( that's probably less than 1 in a billion even in the real world). And lets be fair if anyone watching this video got Killgrave's power, you might not use it for rape or killing people but you would 100% use it to make life better (money/ free shit).
@@adrianbozdog9702 that was a lot of words to agree. Power reveals. In this case it revealed that his parents failed him, that he has a malformed personality because of this. It shaped who he had become. The Freudian excuse doesn't change the fact of the outcome, and who he now is. We're not condemning him for who he could have been, or saying he could not have been otherwise. And saying that someone would use powers to better their life isn't really much of a take. Like...yes, of course. But the way they do so is still revealing. The person that robs banks is not the same as the guy who tells a loan shark to give him money and forget about it. Nor are they the same as someone who uses it to ask for a job then ask for a raise. Can it escalate? Yeah. But it still matters. But the direction it escalates is revealing too.
@@FFKonoko I mean yes I agree that power reveals rather than corrupts but I just wanted to make the point that other than the 1 in 10 million exception (like Steve Rogers) anyone else would have become Killgrave just with a different face (and maybe some other lines they refused to cross but just as immoral and illegal as original Killgrave)
23:30 I discovered David Tennant through Jessica Jones. Prior to Kilgrave, I have never seen, heard, or know David Tennant. I now associate Doctor Who with Kilgrave, not the other way around. Every role David plays, I first see Kilgrave, then David himself. Still, when I watched Jessica Jones for the first time, I couldn't help but feel the same way as other people who knew David before: sympathy, hope for a redemption arc, happiness when he did something slightly good. This proved to me one thing: we don't like Kilgrave because David plays him, we like him because of the WAY David plays him. It's not his face that makes us root for Kilgrave, it's his ACTING. And that's why this character in particular is so great. The writers/creators didn't rely on David charming his way into the fans' hearts, they made sure Kilgrave was a sympathetic villain from the start.
Love this comment! This really does prove that the writing was really good, and David himself is a fantastic actor with a wide range - and that we can learn a lot from them. Of course it doesn't _hurt_ that some viewers may already have a pre-existing image of David Tennant and his most notable role(s) prior to this, but the fact that not having that pre-existing image still puts you on that emotional rollercoaster just shows the solidity of the show's writing and actors themselves. (Side note, during the press interviews for Good Omens - certainly more wholesome fare than Jessica Jones but nonetheless another show Tennant was a main actor in - David Tennant joked he's "an acting chameleon". He meant it as a response to a comment about his hair, which had been dyed red for the show, but I loved that phrase because now I just use it to describe actors whose acting enables them to blend into their roles really effectively.)
Every time I feel and felt sympathy or bad about him I would make myself remember how he raped Hope and Jessica and probably countless other women. Or how he made that one man stand there for eternity. And all the other countless horrible things he has done
@@persephoneabbot9125 Yes, he did horrible things. And yet, you can't help but feel sympathy for him during some scenes (most notably the "Then why did you leave?" speech), thanks to a combination of great writing and acting. That's the whole point. Kilgrave is quite clearly a monster, but at the same time we can still feel bad for him.
@@TaurielTheElfhe actually wanted only love people care for him not thanthe command hypnotize bis parents were horrible using him as lab rat having no mercy symphapie or mercy pity towards him
16:41 Also, in that scene, after the neighbor says she'd like to slap someone who told her that, Kilgrave looks at Jessica and she shakes her head before Kilgrave lets her go. I always loved that, because even before Kilgrave decided to play the hero he was still looking at Jessica for approval of his more invasive use of powers
SPOILERS AHEAD OBVIOUSLY . . . I think that was more because he already knew he couldn't control her, but he was hiding that fact behind the veil of "I want you to choose for yourself to be with me." If he could still control Jessica there's a very good chance he'd just tell her to slap the woman as hard as she could. He was looking at Jessica there to see if she was interested in doing it, and since she wasn't he couldn't force the issue.
@@mal3dictionif she was still under his control he would force marry her no doubt to seal the deal 😂😂😂😂 i see only the doctor who through i cant take him serious here as a threat same as other actors Play villians cant hate them actually but love if i know them as good guys instead of villians its hard to get used to matt Smith was in proud and produce and mobuis but still saw only the doctor 😂😂😂😂hard to hate than you adore love the actors hmm well in the Comics purple guy done worse to jessica not physical mentally but still obessed with her and purple skin
Might sorry you mean hes great obe of the bests out there my fav actor may he rest in peace is Robin willians through i loved hinter dem Horizont movie
Something that feels scarily real about Killgrave is that there is a shrivel of self awareness in him that’s buried by denial. When some people are confronted by the truth of how they’ve hurt people (and they don’t want to be a person who hurts people, whether it be to protect self image or because they view themselves as the hero of their own story) often times they don’t own up to it. They’ll latch on to any excuse. “It didn’t happen that way, and if it did it wasn’t that bad, and if it was I didn’t mean it, and if I did you probably deserved it” Killgrave wants his orders to be what his victims actually like. He understands what he does isn’t nice, but he’s never needed to change before so he’s both unwilling and doesn’t understand how to put in the effort to be better. It reminds me of the character AJ from the movie Barbarian. They both understand that maybe they should try to be better but the instant doing so feels like it’s going to be any work at all they go back to being selfish and latching onto excuses.
Killgrave is purple man After all from Comics who was After jessica hmm to bad i only see doctor who who tries to be a baddy but still fail since i see him only as the doctor from doctor who the goody no matter what
@kriegermaria9923 How did you miss the dark and terrible side of his Doctor? He played it brilliantly. That's why all the Doctors need a companion to stop them from becoming the most destructive force in the universe.
This was a great analysis. One thing I’d recommend is having the “pause to read” sections last a couple seconds longer so it’s easier to pause at the right time (or catch when it first happens). Other than that, great job.
As someone who has been in an abusive relationship I can only get half way through season 1 before having a big panic attack and having to take a break but even still Jessica Jones season 1 was oddly one of the most empowering experiences I've had, just to see Jess and the way her ptsd is shown made me finally feel seen and the fact that she still managed to get through it all just made me feel more comfortable in myself. And even though I destest Killgrave and what he represents, he is still one of my all time favourite villains ever right along side Mother Gothal from Tangled, Im both impressed and terrified that the writers of both could write such an accurate abusive charter. Idk what my point is with this ramble but just, Jessica Jones is and always will be one of the best things the MCU has created right along side Wandavision in a way that (In my opinion) things like Endgame never even came close to.
Totally agree. Jessica Jones as a show was something that was both just an amazing work of art and people at the top of their craft, but also such a healing journey for me, for similar reasons as it was for you. Hope you're doing better now.
The thing that originally gave her ptsd, was her parents and brother being killed in a car accident and her almost dying from it herself, but yes her being tortured by killgrave definitely made her ptsd worse.
I'd argue he gave her a 2nd case of PTSD cuz he doesn't trigger her childhood trauma until he digs up her old life n buys her childhood home. Not a psychologist so I can't speak to how things work IRL but in the show they treat the 2 traumas separately
She most likely has CPTSD or Complex Post Traumatic Stress Disorder at this point. The difference between PTSD and CPTSD is one event v.s. continuous/multiple events. With PTSD it's a terrible thing but it is identifiably over. With Jessica for example though, there were the deaths of her family, her time in the experimental hospital program, Dorothy's abuse as a child, her first boyfriend's death, then Kilgrave's abuse and all those deaths, killing her own mother, and finally Salinger. Things just kept happening. It never stopped. That's what differentiates CPTSD. I'm not a medical practitioner nor specialize in the field of psychology in any way but I do have a family member suffering with the condition.
Yes she could have cptsd maybe some traits of bpd but then again alot of ptsd or cptsd symptoms are similar to bpd, so could be just that, and she also obviously suffers from like a high functioning alcoholism.
Yes she was also abused 4:29 by Dorothy atleast emotionally as well, and even witnessed someone getting abused can cause ptsd or cptsd, jessica witnessed Trish being abused multiple times by Dorothy.
at 7:43 when he tells everyone to calm down. I remember joking that it was a mistake because Jessica didn't clearly didn't look any more calm. cool foreshadowing really.
So, a little off topic but interesting comparison I’ve made. I’ve looked into the topic some people have made before. If God is all-powerful, why would he make a race that he knew would defy him. With Killgrave as an example, I think it’s pretty obvious. Controlling someone and having them work with you of their own choice, are two vastly different things with different emotions behind it. In a meeting, I know I’d feel more emotionally happy to talk to someone who could speak their own mind compared to talking to a Yes-Man who just says what I want to hear.
Upon rewatching JJ, I realised that Kilgrave honestly feels like a villain straight out of The Boys. He'd fit there so unbelievably well, I'd LOVE to see a crossover.
Kilgrave is a perfect encapsulation of a DV abuser with super powers. Perfectly done because people walk around in our world with his mindset, they just lack superpowers (although they often still manage to abuse, manipulate and harm the people around them). Thank you for some extra analysis and appreciation of this villain.
This are narcists but this one here try to win her over but fails at it big time hes a attention seeker through he FOCUS in only her and harming people die to his Powers because he has temper and he can or because they are around jessica get her attention and hes jelous hes focused on her only like a obession that she later snap his neck for try to harm her family hust sister whoshe actually loves why because hd cant get her live lo matter what harley was that way for joker she loved joker he loved batman in sick way well thats it
He tried but failed to indeed earn her trust love but he tried that Made her dislike him even more thinks escalated and welche snapped his neck in the end ending his life just to get rid of him his love was one sided not approved mean you cant force love for her it was hell be stuck with him like cupid hate her she tried suicide she thought about Jump tue building to her death ne stuck with him not try to hurt just feelings but he no fool he catched on she hate i mean she disgusted by him what he do dont like him he knows he cant get what he want her live you cant force love thats life that and well hes posessive as Heck and wants all things go his way has temper if it fails big not according to plan as in ruined he has no patience and wants her attention all the time even if its negativ as Heck he anger always if he dont get his way that aint normal he wants her love but dont get it thats life trying to fix his mess crap he do fail he cant erase what he done she remember what he says done act hurt others because he was jelous stalk her wants no one around her but himself he dont share creepy posessive overcontrolling
He lied to himself oh you love me you just dont know yet his hope i pity him actually indeed but i doubt HE wants pity he wants something to get her love trust affection without him control her he cant control her anyway anymore her will got stronger anyway he lost control over her anyway he tried to do good only to impress her start a live well he i men freekill oh it was killgrave as Name purple guy man in the Comics well HE loved her only because she saved him once without him using powers to save him were his well thought of her love him came into his insane head i mean i live she saved me cared for me but care aint love killgrave read to much into that she saved him since she thought he was a civilian and as hero its her Job to save others in need but no in his fantasy perfect world it was a live declaration for him he cling to that to her than that he crush breath her i guess he couldnt take the no that she dont feel love for him since his parents hurt him that way too
@Paraone Ngatai Well, the characters are canonised. The actual show probably isn't. Lots of continuity issues caused by how the shows themselves only consider Phase 1 of the MCU canon.
@Paraone Ngatai Really? I just think the lack of references in the shows to anything after Phase 1 make the later seasons of each show pretty impossible to happen in the MCU.
2023 was a hellish year for my personal life. I needed a video like this to really sum up the experience in terms of psychological torture. But seriously, how do you drop a one time video like this, which was so damn funny and entertaining, then peace out. Incredible work. I enjoyed everything about it, let's hope 2024 brings new opportunities for growth. 🎉
Hearing that all the Marvel shows on Netflix were moving to Disney Plus I. Went on a binging spree in a few months. Not knowing about how the shows had an order to them I first watched all of Daredevil, The Punisher, and then all of Jessica Jones before I started to follow the timeline. And while Daredevil was easily the best of these shows, Jessica Jones season 1 blew my mind and is easily #2 on seasons for the Marvel Netflix shows (with #1 being Daredevil season 3). Kilgrave is everything I want in a villain: Absolutely evil, but with backstory that makes us understand and kind of pity (at times) why he is so evil. He's also incredibly dangerous, active in his goal, and performed magnificently by David Tenant. He is definitely one of the best Marvel villains brought to the big screen. I swear though they better not reboot Jessica Jones. I hope what that article really means is a season 4 of Jessica Jones because I don't want Kilgrave or Tenant's performance to be erased.
This video is fantastic! I actually really enjoyed the editing, I can’t believe this is your first video. I watched this show a few years ago and Killgrave was absolutely terrible. I don’t think I could watch it again. I had to take breaks after each episode. I really like this breakdown and analysis of his character. This scene in the police station is so scary. Chilling. David Tennant did do an amazing job. During that “how was I supposed to know” scene, I actually felt bad for him for a second and felt gross about it. You’re right that there are a bunch of ways he could have known, but his existence is kind of terrible. I would hate to have that kind of power. Not to say that excuses anything, of course; I was glad when he died. Anyway. Thanks! This was great.
This was the first time I had ever seen Tennant in any villainous role and he just killed it; Kilgrave was fucking terrifying! I can't imagine anyone being as good as Kilgrave as Tennant (MAYBE the guy who played Moriarity in Sherlock?)
Idea for an alternate Kilgrave: A useful person-tool for SHIELD, put on Coulsun's team and needing to be handled carefully, that accidentally kicks off the events of the Hydra Uprising from The Winter Soldier & Agents of SHIELD season 2 by making Ward expose himself as a member of Hydra. May: [In reference to Skye] "We _need_ to be careful in who we recruit. We can't just hire anyone and everyone with the right skillset, we don't know what other possible organisations she could be a part of." Kilgrave: "Oh _please._ I'll be right back." _Kilgrave leaves for a moment, and comes back with Skye, right arm over her shoulders as she looks concerned/confused, but going along with it._ Kilgrave: [clears throat, tilts head back, and says loudly into the air.] "Answer truthfully, are you an Illuminati spy?" Skye: "No." (Various other voices in background that overheard replying "No.") Kilgrave: [clears throat again] "Answer truthfully, are you a Hydra spy?" Skye: "No." (Various other voices in background replying "No.") Ward, in background: "Yes." [watface]
Many well written&performed villains score points in being dangerous, or tragic, or just despicably hateful. Tennant's work hits extremely high in all three.
-comes to youtube -does an amazing video analysis of a character -fades away (I'm joking hope Grad school is treating you well!You got this kick lifes ass!✨️)
Kilgrave was my favorite MCU(adjacent?) villain. He got completely overshadowed by Vincent D'nofrio's Kingpin, which is also great, but Kilgrave was just stuck with me more
Kilgrave's behavior strongly mirrors that of my narcissistic adoptive parents, my narcissistic ex, and occasionally my own behavior I was abused by narcissists from birth, and ended up gravitating towards narcissists as romantic partners later in life even after learning what they were and the inhuman things they were capable of remorselessly doing Sometimes, i find myself behaving in a way almost identical to that of a narcissist, or at least considering doing it. It's pretty hellish what abuse can make you do, say, and feel later in life - even when you're finally free of it. I have CPTSD due to the trauma I experienced throughout my entire life. It actively makes some things insanely difficult. I'm married, and sometimes i still find myself feeling like the little girl i used to be, isolated emotionally but always being observed, judged. My wife is not a narcissist, they've actually had a very similar life experience to mine, but sometimes i find myself wanting to hide away from everyone and everything. When i watched jessica jones for the first time, I didn't realize why it resonated with me so much, why i could relate so well to jessica That was before i learned what narcissistic abuse was.
Sorry for your experiences. And I think with Killgrave, we understand the victims of narcissists better. Before, there was often the thought: why didn't the victim leave the abuser, why even starting a relationship in the first place. And as we see how easily you can fall for a guy like Killgrave if you only know his surface, how after all we have seen of him, still feel sympathetic, even if we don't want to, it is a lot more easier to understand the conflicted feeling of victims of narcissists and psychopaths.
It’s great to see someone talking about jessica jones again, that show was great despite its flaws i like what you’re doing with this channel and i’m eager to see more
Wow this was very well made. Kilgrave is such a complex and interesting character and I loved how you analyzed his motivations and what makes him such a great villain. Loved this! New subbie here :))
Just finished this video, great work! I like the analytical approach. It was very interesting to watch! Also I absolutely agree with you on the point, that if Kilgrave really wanted to know if people consent to do the things he commands them to do, he could just have asked them what they would like to do/ ask whether they consent doing [insert whatever Kilgrave wants]! Asking people is not that hard ... Now I'm curious to check out some of the articles you linked in the description
Fantastic analysis. Kilgrave is one of the most compelling and terrifying villains I've ever seen. I think part of that is the realization that he could essentially be anyone, mind control or not. He's just a man, and people similar to him actually exist. At the same time though, I have to imagine that having that kind of power from such a young age --- NEVER having to face rejection, NEVER having to accept accountability, and ALWAYS being the most powerful person in the room --- would turn just about any person into a monster. So on some level I do feel sorry for his character, because I don't think he had any understanding of what real love is, nor was he really given any opportunities to develop the necessary skills or the empathy to like... exist as a normal human being. But of course, feeling sorry for him doesn't mean I think he needed, or even deserved, a redemption arc. He was an adult and it was no one else's job to fix him. Certainly not Jessica's. He was a sick bastard and far too dangerous. Personally, I found it pretty satisfying when Jessica snapped his neck after all the terrible things he did to her and and so many others.
I remember when I first saw these scenes... its hard to describe. Yet you capture it phenomenally! You're really good at this and I really hope you share more of your voice and prospective 🖤
Damn this was really your first video? Such an amazing essay if I'm being honest. Though sadly judging by the fact that this video is 4 months old, I don't reckon you planned on doing these frequently, but I'll still be thrilled to see what you do next.
I'm actually impressed with the quality of this channel. I'm commenting first to let you know that those 4 years paid off, and second to wake up the algorithm. This deserves to get more attention🤘🏻
Actually laughed out loud at the Bill Wurtz clip for our resounding "NO" What a fantastic first video! I really hope you continue on, I'd love to see what else you've had rattling around in a WIP folder for four years :D
I'm very glad you decided to make this channel. The number of video essays of which I've watched 2 minutes and then clicked away is countless, but I watched this entire half-hour long video without even thinking once about turning it off.
If you ever want to make more video essays, PLEASE DO. You are a much-needed voice in this superhero video essay community on UA-cam and I find it hard to believe this is your first video because it's sooo well put together and your little text notes and editing jokes are just 😙👌
This vid made me finally watch Jessica Jones because the first min of the video got me sold that I'd regret spoilers. And I'm glad I heeded that spoiler warning.
In regard to a disney-ified killgrave I would maybe do something like the Earth's Mightiest Hero's cartoon, where he is still menacing and powerful, but just has different motives. Nowhere as near as good as the Jessica Jones version but I see it as the most likely route where he gets his hands on someone and puppeteers them to carry out his own goals (the show had him control Stark to take over the world but there's plenty of other candidates). Personally I think having Killgrave show up in a show around a more underdog/weaker superhero would be the best, it's usually where he as a character shines best.
Huh. I went the channel to find other videos by this same person, only to find this is the first one. If this the level of quality we can look forward to, I will absolutely subscribe. I await what comes next.
MAKE MORE VIDEOS I’ve watched this video so many times in the last 2 years since the first time I watched it (THE DAY IT CAME OUT BTW) and it’s really great and you’re really great
THAT WAS SO GOOD???? like i've been SCOURING the internet for an accurate and realistic analyzation of kilgrave (the best/worst mcu villain) and watching this just itched the scratch in my brain that was all my unsaid thoughts about him. your video essay perfectly encapsulates how i feel about him as a villain and makes me feel so much more seen in how i felt watching that series and being horrified at myself for at times feeling sympathy for his captivating and all-consuming love/obsession with jessica. of course after watching all this i can separate that delusion of love from his monstrous character, but in watching the show one of my favorite parts about it was how conflicted kilgrave as a villain made me feel. i think this also may be because of david tennants incredible acting but anyhow thank you so much for this vid. jessica jones forever one of my fav shows 👍
Fantastic video! I agree that despite the incredibl(e/y uncomfortable) writing and performance by DT, there is a surprisingly small amount of content on Jessica and Killgrave. Your analysis was great and much-needed.
amazing analysis! as a literature student so very invested in everything made by (netflix's) marvel/film in general i immensely enjoyed this. i do agree that within the marvel community, people often talk about how amazing jessica jones season one is but this is genuinely the first time ive watched anyone analyze it yet ive already seen dozens of videos analyzing the other (netflix) marvel shows.
I was able to binge all of season one when it came out. I am a survivor of an abusive relationship that involved physical and sexual abuse for almost 3 years. But I wanted to be a film maker and I hated the idea of my abuse limiting what I could watch or make. So I did the old exposure thing, purposely watched shit to lower my reaction to it. So when I started JJ I felt like I would be fine. And though I got through it, it wasn’t easy. Every episode had moments that made me feel like I was holding my breath, moments when kilgrave might as well have been played by my abuser. It was agonizing and yet validating. What happened to me felt seen by this show. I never reported I just got the fuck out so, what happened to me is very much my narrative. I’m sure he tells a much different one. Most of what kilgrave says to Jessica in this show I’ve heard a version of leave his lips. It was surreal. To this day when I feel like I can’t move foreword I turn to JJ I love the first two seasons and the 3rd season is fine but with some faults. But I do rewatch because the character is inspiring to me. To me JJ is the best hero, she has been torn down and had an asshole lay waste to her life and sense of self and yet she still has the capacity to care for others. She still gets up and tries, no matter what. She cries and gets back up. Maybe it’s because I know personally what that inner turmoil is like and how debilitating it can be. It can be damn near immobilizing, dealing with years of trauma. At any rate I figure if she can get up so can I. Sounds stupid but I never had a hero that I felt I could relate to so deeply before and for that I do hope they bring back JJ. For too many of us she’s the hero we truly see ourselves in.
Wow! I really enjoyed this! 100% agree with you on what makes him an amazing villain! This was so nice to watch and reaffirm how I'm not supposed to like his character...(can you really blame me though, that ascent and the fact that it's David Tennant) Thanks for posting this and I'm glad it came up on my suggested bar.
Sooo glad YT recommended this to me! Due to my own personal trauma, I'll never forget the first time I watched the first season of Jessica Jones. Some episodes were truly hard to watch, and I wasn't expecting that. No villain (or other MCU property in general) has made me feel the way Kilgrave has.
Your video and analysis is absolutely fascinating! I think that other than Loki, Killgrave is the best marvel villain. And David is such a great actor! I can’t believe how long it took me to watch this show. The end scene is amazing and when she finally kills him I screamed so happily. And holy shit you did such a great job tying it into the world together!
I love this can you make one of kingpin? Also here's a note when you're talking about kilgrave being possible in Disney plus. Moonknight isn't gonna be Disney friendly bc Kevin doesn't want to hold back on the violence so maybe he would be in it and rhe show will be MA like it was on Netflix
Thank you! And that’s a good point, I made the video before they announced moving the Netflix shows to Disney+ or announced any adult-targeted shows to the platform, but now with that in mind that definitely eases my mind abt how Kilgrave could be written into a reboot!
@@laulynnlin3324 you're welcome! See I was nervous with them adding the shows to Disney then I remembered what Kevin said. So the thing is when we hear the word Disney we think kid/family friendly. But I did see somewhere that David tennent is coming to the mcu. So maybe if killgrave does come back maybe hes Resurrected or a variant of himself
Incredible video!! I forgot just how amazing JJ season 1 was because season 2 felt so lackluster and I've only seen parts of 3. You managed to say everything I felt about why Killgrave is such a great character, and one of the best, and most terrifying villains ever put on a TV screen, and you connected everything to real emotions, and how complicated and complex his character is. Yes he is by verry definition "Evil" and commits horrible acts, and it would be one thing to just look at those acts and say he's unredeemable, but you point out, despite how bad it sounds, and how awful he is, there is a part that hopes he can be redeemed, but he shows time and time again why he's not worthy of redemption. It does make me think of an alternate universe, where Jessica decides to be his prisoner for the greater good and try to use his powers for everyone's benefit. Would world peace be achieved? Did stabbing him put her own feelings ahead of what was truly right and by sacrificing living her iwn life could she have created a better lif for the whole world? Or would Killgrave have gotten board of the hero gig and even Jessica and eventually not follow Jessica's orders anymore? So many questions.
Hello from the UK, I just wanted to say that this was an amazing video, thanks for making and sharing it! It was a joy to watch. I hope you continue to upload videos, whether in this style or not :D
Thank you everyone so much for the support on this video! When I posted I had no subscribers and didn’t expect to get any views at all, so seeing the positive response has been incredibly heartwarming 💕
As most of you have noticed, this is currently my only video. There are more coming! IRL I am a full-time graduate student in a field that’s not even remotely related to the topics I want to make videos essays on, so my upload schedule is guaranteed to be somewhat sporadic at least until graduation. But I do have scripts written that are waiting to be filmed and edited, so if you have the patience, I’d love it if you’d stick around :) Thank you again!
Also: sorry about how quick the pause to read sections are! I wanted to keep this under 30 minutes so a lot of spare thoughts ended up as on-screen text instead of spoken words. In the future I will be sure to leave them up long enough to actually pause on, oopsies
because of 5:38 I woke up my entire family with my squeaky laughter
I'm gonna save this video and watch it later after seeing the show, Haven't watched it since...well it first came out year's ago and wanna re watch it, subbed and gonna support ur channel, stopped at the: 1:09 mark, your amazing! 🙌😃
Looking forward to it , What an explosive start, Good Luck!
I think you did a great job - thank you for exploring this fascinating character! I have so many heartsnares when it comes to JJ, having been in a difficult abusive relationship some years ago... love the show so much
It's really well done, especially for your first one. You must of have had editing experience before this since it's so well put together. Looking forward to what you do next.
Tennant is just terrifying in the role. He sells it so well it was, at times, hard to watch
It's so eerie seeing him adorable in interviews then seeing Kilgrave -shudders- he is phenomenal.
@@nellie__ he is THAT good haha
One thing I always appreciate is the ability of such a lovable person and generally mild mannered individual to get to play the villain- I’m not going to lie, I think that Doctor Who prepared him. It’s essentially that same self righteous behavior his Doctor scantly engaged in but directed in a totally selfish way totally out of coping pain. He’s high on the ability to control a world that hurt him. And you don’t know that until later, but he’s literally like a kid in a candy store- and then it gets boring and he turns very very sour. Just thinking about the darkness that Tennant somehow tapped into is chilling.
Tennant had practice from the Happy Potter world lol 😂
He will always be the most terrifying Marvel villain we've ever seen on screen, no grand plot, no godhood, just a twisted little boy in a man's body who can make anyone do any unspeakable act with just words.
True horror.
Perfectly said.
I swear when I met him I wanted to tell this to him how convincing he was as Kilgrave and deserved more praise for his role!
killgrave is literally the PERFECT metaphor for abuse and manipulation. just so amazing
Can we give a shout-out to Krysten's smile in the final confrontation? A smile that clearly never reaches her eyes, more of a grimace, really. Yet Kilgrave is so clueless about body language and genuine emotion, that he falls for it anyway, giving her the opening to kill him before he even knows what hit him. No massive action scene, just one clean shot to take him down.
I keep finding more of these obscure top quality channels.
Agreed there so good
Couldn't agree more
“He’s also played by David Tennant soooo”….That part! Ugh the hardest part when I watched this back when it aired. I just…it was HARD to remind myself that he was disgustingly evil. “Grape” usually cements my hate and disgust for ANY character, but with DT playing him, GOD it was…confusing? Still, yeah, no. He’s evil and I laugh when he *spoiler* gets his neck snapped. He’s abhorrent. But I will say thank God he didn’t have his Scottish accent in this…
"There are almost know videos about him"
I was astonished when the "one villainous scene" initiative was launched that nobody did a video on Kilgrave. Kilgrave as a villain and the Jessica Jones show itself is criminally under-discussed by content creators, IMO.
Plot twist: No one made a video because David Tennant told everyone not to.
@@luigiboi4244 I think maybe the reason why people don't make videos is the subject matter of what he does isn't very YT friendly.
Tennant was scary good, and he was the definition of too dangerous to be kept alive, but I admit I had kinda hoped him getting overpowered at the end of season 1 made it possible for him to transfer his memories into Jessica, or maybe Trish so he could have stuck around for 1 more season in one of their heads rather than just be a single hallucination episode and a voice at the end. If it was Trish her sudden heel turn could have felt a bit more organic, but I can see that for the showrunner and writers that it could be a tricky situation with how they wanted to message the show. Its just he's right up there with Kingpin, but even more sadistic and childish, and sadly none of the other antagonists came close, in season 3 I felt they had to bend over backward and twist the story for the pathetic serial killer to even resemble a threat. If you want the challenge to be fighting public perception they should have done something similar to a killer on Sherlock where it would make sense why the public and the police wouldn't listen to Jessica. They managed to do it with Mariah on Luke Cage.
I think he is the scariest and most realistic villain ever. Especially in the comics. Where love is totally taken out of the equation. The comic states he never raped her but he made her watch as he raped other girls. He loved the power he, quite literally, got off on it.
Thing is - power never corrupted anybody, it just reveals who they truly are
@@youtubestudiosucks978 not really the case here. He had no parents and he needed to rely on an incontrollable power for survival as a kid. Just telling someone go fuck yourself could have immense consequences, so when he grows up for at least 20 years ish with nobody telling him no and everything going his way, it shapes the way you think, especially as he never actually went back to look at people he previously controlled (aside from Jessica) cause he either didn't care or they were dead. Now if he'd been an incredibly righteous boy who had an iron clad moral code (like say Matt Murdock) he might have had a chance but as a kid who spent 6 years being ignored and abused by his parents then given ultimate power/control he never really had a chance at turning out good without some insane moral compass that he would need to be born with ( that's probably less than 1 in a billion even in the real world). And lets be fair if anyone watching this video got Killgrave's power, you might not use it for rape or killing people but you would 100% use it to make life better (money/ free shit).
@@adrianbozdog9702 that was a lot of words to agree.
Power reveals. In this case it revealed that his parents failed him, that he has a malformed personality because of this.
It shaped who he had become.
The Freudian excuse doesn't change the fact of the outcome, and who he now is. We're not condemning him for who he could have been, or saying he could not have been otherwise.
And saying that someone would use powers to better their life isn't really much of a take. Like...yes, of course.
But the way they do so is still revealing. The person that robs banks is not the same as the guy who tells a loan shark to give him money and forget about it. Nor are they the same as someone who uses it to ask for a job then ask for a raise.
Can it escalate? Yeah. But it still matters. But the direction it escalates is revealing too.
@@FFKonoko I mean yes I agree that power reveals rather than corrupts but I just wanted to make the point that other than the 1 in 10 million exception (like Steve Rogers) anyone else would have become Killgrave just with a different face (and maybe some other lines they refused to cross but just as immoral and illegal as original Killgrave)
A truly apologetic Kilgrave would be a very interesting "What If..."
23:30 I discovered David Tennant through Jessica Jones. Prior to Kilgrave, I have never seen, heard, or know David Tennant. I now associate Doctor Who with Kilgrave, not the other way around. Every role David plays, I first see Kilgrave, then David himself. Still, when I watched Jessica Jones for the first time, I couldn't help but feel the same way as other people who knew David before: sympathy, hope for a redemption arc, happiness when he did something slightly good. This proved to me one thing: we don't like Kilgrave because David plays him, we like him because of the WAY David plays him. It's not his face that makes us root for Kilgrave, it's his ACTING. And that's why this character in particular is so great. The writers/creators didn't rely on David charming his way into the fans' hearts, they made sure Kilgrave was a sympathetic villain from the start.
Love this comment! This really does prove that the writing was really good, and David himself is a fantastic actor with a wide range - and that we can learn a lot from them. Of course it doesn't _hurt_ that some viewers may already have a pre-existing image of David Tennant and his most notable role(s) prior to this, but the fact that not having that pre-existing image still puts you on that emotional rollercoaster just shows the solidity of the show's writing and actors themselves.
(Side note, during the press interviews for Good Omens - certainly more wholesome fare than Jessica Jones but nonetheless another show Tennant was a main actor in - David Tennant joked he's "an acting chameleon". He meant it as a response to a comment about his hair, which had been dyed red for the show, but I loved that phrase because now I just use it to describe actors whose acting enables them to blend into their roles really effectively.)
Every time I feel and felt sympathy or bad about him I would make myself remember how he raped Hope and Jessica and probably countless other women. Or how he made that one man stand there for eternity. And all the other countless horrible things he has done
@@persephoneabbot9125 Yes, he did horrible things. And yet, you can't help but feel sympathy for him during some scenes (most notably the "Then why did you leave?" speech), thanks to a combination of great writing and acting. That's the whole point. Kilgrave is quite clearly a monster, but at the same time we can still feel bad for him.
For me other way around i saw him First as the doctor so hes the doctor for me 😂😂😂😂
@@TaurielTheElfhe actually wanted only love people care for him not thanthe command hypnotize bis parents were horrible using him as lab rat having no mercy symphapie or mercy pity towards him
16:41 Also, in that scene, after the neighbor says she'd like to slap someone who told her that, Kilgrave looks at Jessica and she shakes her head before Kilgrave lets her go. I always loved that, because even before Kilgrave decided to play the hero he was still looking at Jessica for approval of his more invasive use of powers
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I think that was more because he already knew he couldn't control her, but he was hiding that fact behind the veil of "I want you to choose for yourself to be with me." If he could still control Jessica there's a very good chance he'd just tell her to slap the woman as hard as she could. He was looking at Jessica there to see if she was interested in doing it, and since she wasn't he couldn't force the issue.
@@mal3dictionif she was still under his control he would force marry her no doubt to seal the deal 😂😂😂😂 i see only the doctor who through i cant take him serious here as a threat same as other actors Play villians cant hate them actually but love if i know them as good guys instead of villians its hard to get used to matt Smith was in proud and produce and mobuis but still saw only the doctor 😂😂😂😂hard to hate than you adore love the actors hmm well in the Comics purple guy done worse to jessica not physical mentally but still obessed with her and purple skin
David Tennant might as well be one of the greatest actors to ever live.
Might sorry you mean hes great obe of the bests out there my fav actor may he rest in peace is Robin willians through i loved hinter dem Horizont movie
Something that feels scarily real about Killgrave is that there is a shrivel of self awareness in him that’s buried by denial. When some people are confronted by the truth of how they’ve hurt people (and they don’t want to be a person who hurts people, whether it be to protect self image or because they view themselves as the hero of their own story) often times they don’t own up to it. They’ll latch on to any excuse.
“It didn’t happen that way, and if it did it wasn’t that bad, and if it was I didn’t mean it, and if I did you probably deserved it”
Killgrave wants his orders to be what his victims actually like. He understands what he does isn’t nice, but he’s never needed to change before so he’s both unwilling and doesn’t understand how to put in the effort to be better.
It reminds me of the character AJ from the movie Barbarian. They both understand that maybe they should try to be better but the instant doing so feels like it’s going to be any work at all they go back to being selfish and latching onto excuses.
He reminds me of Q in star trek overpowered dont know how to connect with people he likes fail badly at it since he aint human
Thanos was a huge simp for ladydeath ironic that they show him here to purple man
Killgrave is purple man After all from Comics who was After jessica hmm to bad i only see doctor who who tries to be a baddy but still fail since i see him only as the doctor from doctor who the goody no matter what
@kriegermaria9923 How did you miss the dark and terrible side of his Doctor? He played it brilliantly. That's why all the Doctors need a companion to stop them from becoming the most destructive force in the universe.
David Tennat really makes kilgrave, kilgrave he just suits the role perfectly I couldn’t imagine anyone playing the role
This was a great analysis. One thing I’d recommend is having the “pause to read” sections last a couple seconds longer so it’s easier to pause at the right time (or catch when it first happens). Other than that, great job.
As someone who has been in an abusive relationship I can only get half way through season 1 before having a big panic attack and having to take a break but even still Jessica Jones season 1 was oddly one of the most empowering experiences I've had, just to see Jess and the way her ptsd is shown made me finally feel seen and the fact that she still managed to get through it all just made me feel more comfortable in myself.
And even though I destest Killgrave and what he represents, he is still one of my all time favourite villains ever right along side Mother Gothal from Tangled, Im both impressed and terrified that the writers of both could write such an accurate abusive charter. Idk what my point is with this ramble but just, Jessica Jones is and always will be one of the best things the MCU has created right along side Wandavision in a way that (In my opinion) things like Endgame never even came close to.
Totally agree. Jessica Jones as a show was something that was both just an amazing work of art and people at the top of their craft, but also such a healing journey for me, for similar reasons as it was for you. Hope you're doing better now.
The thing that originally gave her ptsd, was her parents and brother being killed in a car accident and her almost dying from it herself, but yes her being tortured by killgrave definitely made her ptsd worse.
I'd argue he gave her a 2nd case of PTSD cuz he doesn't trigger her childhood trauma until he digs up her old life n buys her childhood home. Not a psychologist so I can't speak to how things work IRL but in the show they treat the 2 traumas separately
She most likely has CPTSD or Complex Post Traumatic Stress Disorder at this point. The difference between PTSD and CPTSD is one event v.s. continuous/multiple events. With PTSD it's a terrible thing but it is identifiably over. With Jessica for example though, there were the deaths of her family, her time in the experimental hospital program, Dorothy's abuse as a child, her first boyfriend's death, then Kilgrave's abuse and all those deaths, killing her own mother, and finally Salinger. Things just kept happening. It never stopped. That's what differentiates CPTSD.
I'm not a medical practitioner nor specialize in the field of psychology in any way but I do have a family member suffering with the condition.
Yes she could have cptsd maybe some traits of bpd but then again alot of ptsd or cptsd symptoms are similar to bpd, so could be just that, and she also obviously suffers from like a high functioning alcoholism.
Yes she was also abused 4:29 by Dorothy atleast emotionally as well, and even witnessed someone getting abused can cause ptsd or cptsd, jessica witnessed Trish being abused multiple times by Dorothy.
Hes kinda sadistic this actions Made her hate him even more
at 7:43 when he tells everyone to calm down. I remember joking that it was a mistake because Jessica didn't clearly didn't look any more calm. cool foreshadowing really.
he was the first villain in awhile that made me feel tense every time he showed up on screen
Same
Season 1 of Jessica Jones is the best marvel has ever offered on screen IMO.
I think Daredevil is better, but JJ is good too!
@@TapetBart I haven't seen DD Season 3 yet but I agree that JJ season 1 is a bit too long but still a masterpiece
So, a little off topic but interesting comparison I’ve made. I’ve looked into the topic some people have made before. If God is all-powerful, why would he make a race that he knew would defy him. With Killgrave as an example, I think it’s pretty obvious. Controlling someone and having them work with you of their own choice, are two vastly different things with different emotions behind it.
In a meeting, I know I’d feel more emotionally happy to talk to someone who could speak their own mind compared to talking to a Yes-Man who just says what I want to hear.
Wow. The God-Kikgrave analogy works way too well.
It's a very good analogy
Upon rewatching JJ, I realised that Kilgrave honestly feels like a villain straight out of The Boys.
He'd fit there so unbelievably well, I'd LOVE to see a crossover.
He’s essentially Homelander if he had mind control, instead of Superman’s powers.
Wow you're right. Can you imagine if he and Homelander met, I wonder how that conversation would be like lol.
@@marcscott6395it wouldn’t really be a conversation would it?
Kilgrave is a perfect encapsulation of a DV abuser with super powers. Perfectly done because people walk around in our world with his mindset, they just lack superpowers (although they often still manage to abuse, manipulate and harm the people around them). Thank you for some extra analysis and appreciation of this villain.
This are narcists but this one here try to win her over but fails at it big time hes a attention seeker through he FOCUS in only her and harming people die to his Powers because he has temper and he can or because they are around jessica get her attention and hes jelous hes focused on her only like a obession that she later snap his neck for try to harm her family hust sister whoshe actually loves why because hd cant get her live lo matter what harley was that way for joker she loved joker he loved batman in sick way well thats it
Killgrave was toxic but loved jessica in his own messed upway that goh angry she thinks he love no one
He tried but failed to indeed earn her trust love but he tried that Made her dislike him even more thinks escalated and welche snapped his neck in the end ending his life just to get rid of him his love was one sided not approved mean you cant force love for her it was hell be stuck with him like cupid hate her she tried suicide she thought about Jump tue building to her death ne stuck with him not try to hurt just feelings but he no fool he catched on she hate i mean she disgusted by him what he do dont like him he knows he cant get what he want her live you cant force love thats life that and well hes posessive as Heck and wants all things go his way has temper if it fails big not according to plan as in ruined he has no patience and wants her attention all the time even if its negativ as Heck he anger always if he dont get his way that aint normal he wants her love but dont get it thats life trying to fix his mess crap he do fail he cant erase what he done she remember what he says done act hurt others because he was jelous stalk her wants no one around her but himself he dont share creepy posessive overcontrolling
He lied to himself oh you love me you just dont know yet his hope i pity him actually indeed but i doubt HE wants pity he wants something to get her love trust affection without him control her he cant control her anyway anymore her will got stronger anyway he lost control over her anyway he tried to do good only to impress her start a live well he i men freekill oh it was killgrave as Name purple guy man in the Comics well HE loved her only because she saved him once without him using powers to save him were his well thought of her love him came into his insane head i mean i live she saved me cared for me but care aint love killgrave read to much into that she saved him since she thought he was a civilian and as hero its her Job to save others in need but no in his fantasy perfect world it was a live declaration for him he cling to that to her than that he crush breath her i guess he couldnt take the no that she dont feel love for him since his parents hurt him that way too
GRAPEIST. Literally burst out. Literally my favorite YKYK skit. Plus… HES WEARING PURPLE.
Also, that edit of the bus hitting him. Amazing.
The dynamic between both of the characters is what made Jessica Jones such a great show.
I’m comfortable saying he’s a top 10 MCU villain as I believe these shows were officially canonized
@Paraone Ngatai Well, the characters are canonised. The actual show probably isn't. Lots of continuity issues caused by how the shows themselves only consider Phase 1 of the MCU canon.
@Paraone Ngatai Really?
I just think the lack of references in the shows to anything after Phase 1 make the later seasons of each show pretty impossible to happen in the MCU.
@@tTaseric moon knight isnt canon then
@Paraone Ngatai they're all canon
@Paraone Ngatai all of them are before the snap
2023 was a hellish year for my personal life. I needed a video like this to really sum up the experience in terms of psychological torture. But seriously, how do you drop a one time video like this, which was so damn funny and entertaining, then peace out. Incredible work. I enjoyed everything about it, let's hope 2024 brings new opportunities for growth. 🎉
Hearing that all the Marvel shows on Netflix were moving to Disney Plus I. Went on a binging spree in a few months. Not knowing about how the shows had an order to them I first watched all of Daredevil, The Punisher, and then all of Jessica Jones before I started to follow the timeline. And while Daredevil was easily the best of these shows, Jessica Jones season 1 blew my mind and is easily #2 on seasons for the Marvel Netflix shows (with #1 being Daredevil season 3).
Kilgrave is everything I want in a villain: Absolutely evil, but with backstory that makes us understand and kind of pity (at times) why he is so evil. He's also incredibly dangerous, active in his goal, and performed magnificently by David Tenant. He is definitely one of the best Marvel villains brought to the big screen.
I swear though they better not reboot Jessica Jones. I hope what that article really means is a season 4 of Jessica Jones because I don't want Kilgrave or Tenant's performance to be erased.
This video is fantastic! I actually really enjoyed the editing, I can’t believe this is your first video.
I watched this show a few years ago and Killgrave was absolutely terrible. I don’t think I could watch it again. I had to take breaks after each episode. I really like this breakdown and analysis of his character. This scene in the police station is so scary. Chilling.
David Tennant did do an amazing job. During that “how was I supposed to know” scene, I actually felt bad for him for a second and felt gross about it. You’re right that there are a bunch of ways he could have known, but his existence is kind of terrible. I would hate to have that kind of power. Not to say that excuses anything, of course; I was glad when he died.
Anyway. Thanks! This was great.
THANK YOU for making this!! I always found Kilgrave the scariest because there are so many dudes like him irl
This was the first time I had ever seen Tennant in any villainous role and he just killed it; Kilgrave was fucking terrifying! I can't imagine anyone being as good as Kilgrave as Tennant (MAYBE the guy who played Moriarity in Sherlock?)
Idea for an alternate Kilgrave: A useful person-tool for SHIELD, put on Coulsun's team and needing to be handled carefully, that accidentally kicks off the events of the Hydra Uprising from The Winter Soldier & Agents of SHIELD season 2 by making Ward expose himself as a member of Hydra.
May: [In reference to Skye] "We _need_ to be careful in who we recruit. We can't just hire anyone and everyone with the right skillset, we don't know what other possible organisations she could be a part of."
Kilgrave: "Oh _please._ I'll be right back."
_Kilgrave leaves for a moment, and comes back with Skye, right arm over her shoulders as she looks concerned/confused, but going along with it._
Kilgrave: [clears throat, tilts head back, and says loudly into the air.] "Answer truthfully, are you an Illuminati spy?"
Skye: "No."
(Various other voices in background that overheard replying "No.")
Kilgrave: [clears throat again] "Answer truthfully, are you a Hydra spy?"
Skye: "No."
(Various other voices in background replying "No.")
Ward, in background: "Yes."
[watface]
This is amazing - literally a great breakdown of one of the greatest marvel villains! Can’t wait for more content!!
Many well written&performed villains score points in being dangerous, or tragic, or just despicably hateful. Tennant's work hits extremely high in all three.
-comes to youtube
-does an amazing video analysis of a character
-fades away
(I'm joking hope Grad school is treating you well!You got this kick lifes ass!✨️)
Kilgrave was my favorite MCU(adjacent?) villain. He got completely overshadowed by Vincent D'nofrio's Kingpin, which is also great, but Kilgrave was just stuck with me more
Kilgrave's behavior strongly mirrors that of my narcissistic adoptive parents, my narcissistic ex, and occasionally my own behavior
I was abused by narcissists from birth, and ended up gravitating towards narcissists as romantic partners later in life even after learning what they were and the inhuman things they were capable of remorselessly doing
Sometimes, i find myself behaving in a way almost identical to that of a narcissist, or at least considering doing it. It's pretty hellish what abuse can make you do, say, and feel later in life - even when you're finally free of it.
I have CPTSD due to the trauma I experienced throughout my entire life. It actively makes some things insanely difficult.
I'm married, and sometimes i still find myself feeling like the little girl i used to be, isolated emotionally but always being observed, judged.
My wife is not a narcissist, they've actually had a very similar life experience to mine, but sometimes i find myself wanting to hide away from everyone and everything.
When i watched jessica jones for the first time, I didn't realize why it resonated with me so much, why i could relate so well to jessica
That was before i learned what narcissistic abuse was.
Sorry for your experiences. And I think with Killgrave, we understand the victims of narcissists better. Before, there was often the thought: why didn't the victim leave the abuser, why even starting a relationship in the first place. And as we see how easily you can fall for a guy like Killgrave if you only know his surface, how after all we have seen of him, still feel sympathetic, even if we don't want to, it is a lot more easier to understand the conflicted feeling of victims of narcissists and psychopaths.
It’s great to see someone talking about jessica jones again, that show was great despite its flaws
i like what you’re doing with this channel and i’m eager to see more
Just finished S1 today. Loved it, loved Kilgrave as a villain and loved this video. Keep up the great work :)
Wow this was very well made. Kilgrave is such a complex and interesting character and I loved how you analyzed his motivations and what makes him such a great villain. Loved this! New subbie here :))
Villains are always the best when they not only scare you, but disgust you.
Kilgrave is an interesting villain as he could take over the world but is more interested in his own pleasure, makes him more sick.
Just finished this video, great work! I like the analytical approach. It was very interesting to watch! Also I absolutely agree with you on the point, that if Kilgrave really wanted to know if people consent to do the things he commands them to do, he could just have asked them what they would like to do/ ask whether they consent doing [insert whatever Kilgrave wants]! Asking people is not that hard ... Now I'm curious to check out some of the articles you linked in the description
Great video - Kilgrave is painfully underrated and overlooked.
You’re a natural video essayist, this was an incredibly fun watch and excited for more if/when you can make them!
Fantastic analysis. Kilgrave is one of the most compelling and terrifying villains I've ever seen. I think part of that is the realization that he could essentially be anyone, mind control or not. He's just a man, and people similar to him actually exist. At the same time though, I have to imagine that having that kind of power from such a young age --- NEVER having to face rejection, NEVER having to accept accountability, and ALWAYS being the most powerful person in the room --- would turn just about any person into a monster. So on some level I do feel sorry for his character, because I don't think he had any understanding of what real love is, nor was he really given any opportunities to develop the necessary skills or the empathy to like... exist as a normal human being. But of course, feeling sorry for him doesn't mean I think he needed, or even deserved, a redemption arc. He was an adult and it was no one else's job to fix him. Certainly not Jessica's. He was a sick bastard and far too dangerous. Personally, I found it pretty satisfying when Jessica snapped his neck after all the terrible things he did to her and and so many others.
The UA-cam algorithm gave me this at the perfect time. I just finished rewatching S1 of Jessica Jones the other day
I remember when I first saw these scenes... its hard to describe. Yet you capture it phenomenally!
You're really good at this and I really hope you share more of your voice and prospective 🖤
BANGER video essay! Can’t believe it took me so long to watch it but I’m very appreciative that u made it
Damn this was really your first video? Such an amazing essay if I'm being honest.
Though sadly judging by the fact that this video is 4 months old, I don't reckon you planned on doing these frequently, but I'll still be thrilled to see what you do next.
only seen the first minute but by god how can one person be so likable in 60 seconds. amazing
I'm actually impressed with the quality of this channel. I'm commenting first to let you know that those 4 years paid off, and second to wake up the algorithm. This deserves to get more attention🤘🏻
Actually laughed out loud at the Bill Wurtz clip for our resounding "NO"
What a fantastic first video! I really hope you continue on, I'd love to see what else you've had rattling around in a WIP folder for four years :D
Man I loved this video. You're so entertaining to listen to! Instant sub and Jessica Jones is now on my To Watch list
I'm very glad you decided to make this channel. The number of video essays of which I've watched 2 minutes and then clicked away is countless, but I watched this entire half-hour long video without even thinking once about turning it off.
Just wow! Awesome video, one of my favorite video essays on youtube. Great analysis, great editing.
this is hands down the best video on here
the purple inevitables should be a constant theme
If you ever want to make more video essays, PLEASE DO. You are a much-needed voice in this superhero video essay community on UA-cam and I find it hard to believe this is your first video because it's sooo well put together and your little text notes and editing jokes are just 😙👌
Lol this content is *chef's kiss* and the edits omg i cant even pick which ones my fave so good lol i enjoyed this very much
This vid made me finally watch Jessica Jones because the first min of the video got me sold that I'd regret spoilers. And I'm glad I heeded that spoiler warning.
oh. my. GOD.
THIS VIDEO IS GREAT
PLZ PLZ PLZ DO MORE, i feel like i'm watching a new big time video essayist forming!
In regard to a disney-ified killgrave I would maybe do something like the Earth's Mightiest Hero's cartoon, where he is still menacing and powerful, but just has different motives. Nowhere as near as good as the Jessica Jones version but I see it as the most likely route where he gets his hands on someone and puppeteers them to carry out his own goals (the show had him control Stark to take over the world but there's plenty of other candidates). Personally I think having Killgrave show up in a show around a more underdog/weaker superhero would be the best, it's usually where he as a character shines best.
Huh. I went the channel to find other videos by this same person, only to find this is the first one. If this the level of quality we can look forward to, I will absolutely subscribe. I await what comes next.
MAKE MORE VIDEOS
I’ve watched this video so many times in the last 2 years since the first time I watched it (THE DAY IT CAME OUT BTW) and it’s really great and you’re really great
Idk have a feeling this channel will blow up I’m in disbelief it only has 22 subs
UA-cam recommendations are stepping up their game with this one
THAT WAS SO GOOD???? like i've been SCOURING the internet for an accurate and realistic analyzation of kilgrave (the best/worst mcu villain) and watching this just itched the scratch in my brain that was all my unsaid thoughts about him. your video essay perfectly encapsulates how i feel about him as a villain and makes me feel so much more seen in how i felt watching that series and being horrified at myself for at times feeling sympathy for his captivating and all-consuming love/obsession with jessica. of course after watching all this i can separate that delusion of love from his monstrous character, but in watching the show one of my favorite parts about it was how conflicted kilgrave as a villain made me feel. i think this also may be because of david tennants incredible acting but anyhow thank you so much for this vid. jessica jones forever one of my fav shows 👍
Great video.
Kilgrave is one of the best portrayed and most interesting marvel villains.
Very captivating.
Fantastic video! I agree that despite the incredibl(e/y uncomfortable) writing and performance by DT, there is a surprisingly small amount of content on Jessica and Killgrave. Your analysis was great and much-needed.
amazing analysis! as a literature student so very invested in everything made by (netflix's) marvel/film in general i immensely enjoyed this. i do agree that within the marvel community, people often talk about how amazing jessica jones season one is but this is genuinely the first time ive watched anyone analyze it yet ive already seen dozens of videos analyzing the other (netflix) marvel shows.
I had planned on doing a video on Kilgrave when the whole One Villanous Scene thing started but life got in the way. Glad someone took the initiative.
Wow, the algorithm just brought me something I'm actually interested and it's well done. There's a first.
Really nicely done, subbed
Wish you made more content! great video
I was able to binge all of season one when it came out. I am a survivor of an abusive relationship that involved physical and sexual abuse for almost 3 years. But I wanted to be a film maker and I hated the idea of my abuse limiting what I could watch or make. So I did the old exposure thing, purposely watched shit to lower my reaction to it. So when I started JJ I felt like I would be fine. And though I got through it, it wasn’t easy. Every episode had moments that made me feel like I was holding my breath, moments when kilgrave might as well have been played by my abuser. It was agonizing and yet validating. What happened to me felt seen by this show. I never reported I just got the fuck out so, what happened to me is very much my narrative. I’m sure he tells a much different one. Most of what kilgrave says to Jessica in this show I’ve heard a version of leave his lips. It was surreal. To this day when I feel like I can’t move foreword I turn to JJ I love the first two seasons and the 3rd season is fine but with some faults. But I do rewatch because the character is inspiring to me. To me JJ is the best hero, she has been torn down and had an asshole lay waste to her life and sense of self and yet she still has the capacity to care for others. She still gets up and tries, no matter what. She cries and gets back up. Maybe it’s because I know personally what that inner turmoil is like and how debilitating it can be. It can be damn near immobilizing, dealing with years of trauma. At any rate I figure if she can get up so can I. Sounds stupid but I never had a hero that I felt I could relate to so deeply before and for that I do hope they bring back JJ. For too many of us she’s the hero we truly see ourselves in.
Wow! I really enjoyed this! 100% agree with you on what makes him an amazing villain! This was so nice to watch and reaffirm how I'm not supposed to like his character...(can you really blame me though, that ascent and the fact that it's David Tennant) Thanks for posting this and I'm glad it came up on my suggested bar.
Damn only 1k? Thats a sub. Very well made, cannot agree more.
Sooo glad YT recommended this to me! Due to my own personal trauma, I'll never forget the first time I watched the first season of Jessica Jones. Some episodes were truly hard to watch, and I wasn't expecting that. No villain (or other MCU property in general) has made me feel the way Kilgrave has.
Not me subscribing to a channel that has only posted one video and hasn't posted in 3 months
First video evaaaa, gratz and all the best.
Thank you! I appreciate it 😊
Well, if anything, the promise of more Killgrave might just motivate me to continure pushing through Season 2 and then maybe 3
Also this was an amazing analysis of him, well done
The way the Purple Man is so real yet if you ask someone they’ll think of Thanos and say he’s not speaks volumes of the way we think about abuse
Has anyone seen David Tennant in 'Secret Smile' because it reminds me a lot of the narcissistic behaviour of Kilgrave.
Yes! And in Deadwater Fell. He plays psychopath extremely well.
It's actually 1 of the reasons why the lady who made this show hired him.
I genuinely think no one covered him because you cant really monetize talking about him openly. Wonderful vid, I forgot I missed this series.
God the scene where he leans in makes me want to gag which is SUCH a stark contrast to the doctor and oh my god
man kilgrave is such a tragic character, brilliant
Tragic to everyone that is unlucky enough to meet him
@@slothysami actually pity him and i love him the actor i mean its the doctor docto who for me hello i cant hate him even if i try
this is a very good video. I am excited for whatever it is you do next and hope you put this kind of work into all your future content.
Not many channels get me to subscribe on a single video.
I very much look forward to your next one.
Such an amazing dive into my absolute favorite villain of all time. Thank you.
I really liked how you described the characters and such in this video I wish you made more 😊
Your video and analysis is absolutely fascinating! I think that other than Loki, Killgrave is the best marvel villain. And David is such a great actor! I can’t believe how long it took me to watch this show. The end scene is amazing and when she finally kills him I screamed so happily. And holy shit you did such a great job tying it into the world together!
I love this can you make one of kingpin? Also here's a note when you're talking about kilgrave being possible in Disney plus. Moonknight isn't gonna be Disney friendly bc Kevin doesn't want to hold back on the violence so maybe he would be in it and rhe show will be MA like it was on Netflix
Thank you! And that’s a good point, I made the video before they announced moving the Netflix shows to Disney+ or announced any adult-targeted shows to the platform, but now with that in mind that definitely eases my mind abt how Kilgrave could be written into a reboot!
@@laulynnlin3324 you're welcome! See I was nervous with them adding the shows to Disney then I remembered what Kevin said. So the thing is when we hear the word Disney we think kid/family friendly. But I did see somewhere that David tennent is coming to the mcu. So maybe if killgrave does come back maybe hes Resurrected or a variant of himself
@@sydneeb6962 just imagine Kilgrave back in the MCU, my god.
Killgrave scares me as a villain cause I know so many people just like him.
Amo tanto el trabajo que David hizo para interpretar a Kilgrave
Very nice breakdown, you made me want to watch Jessica Jones 👀
Incredible video!! I forgot just how amazing JJ season 1 was because season 2 felt so lackluster and I've only seen parts of 3. You managed to say everything I felt about why Killgrave is such a great character, and one of the best, and most terrifying villains ever put on a TV screen, and you connected everything to real emotions, and how complicated and complex his character is. Yes he is by verry definition "Evil" and commits horrible acts, and it would be one thing to just look at those acts and say he's unredeemable, but you point out, despite how bad it sounds, and how awful he is, there is a part that hopes he can be redeemed, but he shows time and time again why he's not worthy of redemption. It does make me think of an alternate universe, where Jessica decides to be his prisoner for the greater good and try to use his powers for everyone's benefit. Would world peace be achieved? Did stabbing him put her own feelings ahead of what was truly right and by sacrificing living her iwn life could she have created a better lif for the whole world? Or would Killgrave have gotten board of the hero gig and even Jessica and eventually not follow Jessica's orders anymore? So many questions.
Likes, subscribes, looks at the channel, sees that there are no more videos… begins patiently weighing for another to be posted.
Hey your editing???? Fan-freaking-tastic! Loved the video!!! Hope to see more!
Hello from the UK, I just wanted to say that this was an amazing video, thanks for making and sharing it! It was a joy to watch. I hope you continue to upload videos, whether in this style or not :D