How I see Taiwan living in China - What They Don't Tell You | China Documentary
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- In this episode, I share my honest experiences of my time in China and talk about things such as the cost of living in Taiwan and Mainland China. Also, similarities and differences without talking about politics. This is my honest view as a foreigner who has experienced some level of Chinese culture.
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I am neutral and a foreigner who trying to understand life in this part of the world and every day I am learning from the places I visited and your comments. Please note this is just my honest experiences so far in China.
Anyway, thank you for showing the world the real China
@@ljp0213my pleasure! 😊
China is pure evil, it is the worst evil in history. Taiwan is an independent free country
@@ljp0213"real china"??? You mean evil china!!!
Sadly, if the world had more people like you, there’d be no wars. Proud of who you are and what you’re doing in Asia, and speaking the truth about China. ❤️
This is lovely of you mate!
Travel a little is what I tell my American friends to take a leap of faith and explore. So few do.
@@kabysummit5801, It's the year 2023. If the racist Haters want the truth, they’ll find it, but they would rather believe in lies so they can continue promoting their hatred of China (Chinese people). Truth always prevails sooner or later.
This is amazing brother! Felt like I was watching a real Netflix documentary! You have really emersed yourself perfectly with the culture in China. I hope I’ll get the chance to visit Taiwan someday! Looks really interesting watching from your perspective! Thanks bro!✊🏾
That's awesome, bro. Love your support as always. Honestly, the more time I spend in China 🇨🇳 the more I love this country and I am glad I have embraced the culture here. Definitely, you have to visit, mate.
I never compare the people in this region called Taiwanese to the people in the mainland called Chinese, cuz they are all Chinese. If I do want to distinguish, I’ll call the people in Beijing as Beijingese, or Shanghai as Shanghainese to compare to the people in Taiwan as Taiwanese, which makes sense that if you wanna make a comparison, always compare at the same level. The taiwan island is a region or a province of the whole China, hence you can not separate the people in this region as an individual sovereignty citizen from the mainlanders! If I personally see a Taiwanese and greet on each other, if he or she asks me where I am from, I will say that I am from Shanghai! Simple as it!
Yes, this is one of the good solutions to this difficult problem.
@@echooohce yes, simple as it is, I don’t say that I am from China, I’ll say the province or the city where I am from when talking to tainwanese in the presence of other countries people. By doing so, people won’t be confused of the concept that China and Taiwan are 2 different countries, actually it’s the same country that was written in the Chinese constitution! Never compare a country to a region or a province, never say it at the same level. It is those people that deliberately confuse the concept of a country and a region are the Taiwan independence activists who shall be punished and removed from this country!
There are more to that. Before Dec 15, 1978 when the US recognised One China Policy, Taiwanese were official Chinese to the Western world because the US said so. They still are in many respects unchanged. They have their own passports, even their language which is Mandarin 国语 although they also have Chinese 中文 in parallel. In the US the majority of Taiwanese call themselves Taiwanese. Half a million migrated to the US in the 80s and 90s, already in their third and fourth generations. US High schools classes and scholastic tests are still called Mandarin. But university classes are Chinese.
@@Marsbati 那苏联……哦不，江苏……
@@michael511128 tainwanese were Chinese not only since the Qin Dynasty, but way before, even though colonized by Holland before the Qin Dynasty. No matter how they changed the name of the government, the land is called China ever since thousands of years ago!
The United States constitution doesn't allow for a state to secede. The US Supreme court has ruled unilateral secession unconstitutional. Its hypocritical for them to extend the privilege to people of a foreign country.
The difference is no state since the civil war has wanted to seceed
@@euanstokes2828 The difference is most native americans were killed or chased to the deserts?
@@allenx5358 why is that relevant? The point still stands that since the civil war secession simply hasn't been an issue for the US.
@@euanstokes2828 when US debts & US dollars collapse, let us see if US states will stick together. watch out! texas and california are coming....😂😂😂😂
It's not succession because the KMT that occupied Taiwan is the opposition to the Communist Party. The KMT was never a part of the CCCP, so what are you suggesting that they've "seceded" from?
Immediately after the retreat of the KMT to Taiwan, everyone of the new Taiwanese was indistinguishable from Chinese on the mainland. Even the Taiwanese who had settled in Taiwan for generations often had strong links with families in Fujian and spoke the Min Nan dialect of Fujian. Over time, Taiwan had tried to bring up new Taiwanese to think they are different from mainland Chinese. Like some schools in Hong Kong, Taiwanese were taught carefully edited history and culture. Needless to say, a lot of it was distorted and truncated. The most important of the distortions is the place of Japan in China, and particularly Taiwan. Japan is portrayed as a benign, and even good Intruder rather than an invader. Many of the DPP politicians have strong links with Japan as many of them had parents who served Japan when Taiwan was a Japanese colony. Many even adopted the Japanese way of life. But many Chinese do not share this, so the DPP is careful not to go too public with their pro-Japanese views. But anything which is anti-China is bread and butter to them. We need to understand that the independence movement is not really to benefit the Taiwanese as much as to serve the interests of America and Japan.
So the difficulty with that logic is it buys into a few falsehoods.
1. Language and culture are not the same. I am Scottish, I speak English but trust me there are significant cultural distinctions between Scotland and England. The same can be true of Taiwan.
2. Culture and identity are not the same thing. I don't actually think many Taiwanese people have much of a problem with being seen as culturally of Chinese origin in the same sense that Cypriots and Greeks can both see themselves as being descended of ancient Greece without one country being illegitimate.
Taiwan forging its own country and identity does not have to mean Taiwanese people becoming more and more different China, but Taiwanese people see preserving their democracy as more important than wider ideals of Chinese territorial integrity.
3. The situation you described is basically how cultures change but there doesn't necessarily have to be a subject, nor is it necessarily wrong. By that I mean, Taiwanese culture and identity is drifting from China and noone is denying that, but you kind of just assume that the US and Japan are the ones doing that, which doesn't have to be the case. The view of Taiwan being separate from China isn't necessarily historically incorrect either, it was autonomous for much of its history and in open revolt for a lot of it too, you have to really bury your head in the sand to argue that Taiwan is as core to China as, say, Hebei.
If you apply this logic universally there are many countries that shouldnt exist. Austrians saw themselves as Germans until after WW2. Czechia and Slovakia were content being united until the Velvet divorce. Singapore also doesn't see itself as Chinese.
@@euanstokes2828 So is Scotland an independent country now?
@@euanstokes2828As a mainland Chinese lives in Edinburgh, the cultural difference between China and Taiwan are not as huge as Scotland and England. People have disagreement on politics but not cultures. It is more similar to North/South Korea than Scotland/England.
I agree with much of what u said except the older generation that grew up under Japanese rule. My deceased grandparents and their friends can speak Japanese but they never ever adopted Japanese customs. They didn’t hate Japanese because Taiwan was treated as a model colony but they remained 100% fujian Taiwanese.
@@TD-yj8ch Western colonists, Japanese, and Hoklos were all foreigners in Taiwan so they cooperated fairly. The victims of hostilities were the indigenous people because of land grabbing of ancestral lands.
Bravo Sheku! Love your perspectives and creations.
Another brilliant video with great insight and so well produced. Thank you for sharing this, I learn so much from you Sheku. I hope to catch up with you one day.
My pleasure!
Thanks for sharing.
Pleasure!
Interesting... 🍿🍿🍿
Cheers, mate!
Glad to see you enjoying yourself over there man.
Me too! I love my life in Asia hence why I kept coming here and I am glad I am living in China.
Thanks for the scooter tip!🤠
Trust him on that one, Willene. My friend who lived in Taiwan in the 90s-early 2000s , he also said that he had his closest call to meet the almighty while zipping around in a scooter there.
No problem 👍 it is too dangerous
Hi Sheku, Nice to see another video! Always amazing! Thank you for sharing your experience! 😇 Also, I am in Guangdong right now, believe it or not, still wearing T-shirt and shorts and sandals🤣 I saw my friend who's traveling in Beijing right now posted pictures of the Forbidden City yesterday, and damn it's gorgeous with snow! Wish I was there myself 🥲 Anyway, take care and just ignore the hateful comments! Keep up the great work!🥰
the differences between China and Taiwam is their civil war back then, the winner took the mainland loser retreated to Taiwan, both constitutions stipulated they are the only one representing China PEACE
Gotta correct a little bit by what you’ve said. The civil war between Chinese, not China and Taiwan! Or you could say the civil war happened in China, the looser flew to the Taiwan island China to hide as a coward!
@@Marsbati lol what is the definition of CIVIL WAR? the looser flew to the Taiwan island China? not quite, what about the Taiwan's occupied Kinmen island right next to China where you can see each other from across the bay ? only a few miles from Xiamen of Fujian province of China thats how close they are facing each other up to now. I am just saying take it easy PEACE
@@choifayue9848 how can you say China is the side of peace when they are literally the only party involved in this willing to scale this dispute up to violence?
@@euanstokes2828 the country will have to join in one some day, this dispute is almost '70yrs' now, literally the only party wants to scale up is the US of A, remember the grandmommy Nancy? lol PEACE
@@choifayue9848 Lets acknowledge some facts here.
1. Both the USA and Taiwan have made their position clear - they want the status quo to continue.
2. China is the only one who wants to change how things are.
3. Taiwan absolutely has agency in this situation. It could join China tomorrow and the US wouldn't be able to do anything. If China wants Taiwan back peacefully it has to convince Taiwan to do do, which Taiwan uas made clear wont happen.
4. China has not ruled out force in taking Taiwan.
How can you acknowledge these facts and still say China is peaceful here? The fact is Taiwan is not in a rush to settle this - why would they be? Taiwan has basically everything it wants - a good economy, democracy, a functioning trade relationship with the west even if its not official and a virtual guarantee from the USA. Plus its virtually uninvadable. The irony here is when China insists that 'time and momentum are on our side' Taiwan's response is 'bet' because theyre more than happy to wait this one out.
The truth is time and momentum are not on China's side. They have until about 2027 until the US navy upgrades and becomes insurmountable and their economic situation worsens, after which Taiwan will be independent forever. Even now I give China a 5% in an invasion.
If you want to wait this out Taiwan would happily oblige.
your production and editing skills are great my brother
No western countries have ever said Taiwan is not part of China
Taiwan is independent and democratic and the people wish to stay that way
Taiwan has never been ruled by the mainland
I feel you don’t understand what the tensions are about
I have lived and worked on both sides of the Taiwan Strait (decades ago). One aspect that I would add to the conversation is that if you really enjoy history the Mainland has so, so, SO much more to explore and learn about. You can add in different ethnicities, cultures and landscapes to explore. Taiwan does pack a strong punch given its small size, but it's like a welterweight boxing a heavyweight. You simply know which one wins.
"Taiwanese oor Chinese, don't hate each other maybe it's best for us westerners to mind our business." -Sheku Mans. Better advise to Western leaders than all their "highly educated" security advisors or think tank had ever dream up.
Meanwhile, in the Taiwanese government: USA please help us we are under constant threat.
@@euanstokes2828yeah…right-haha🙀🙀🙀
@@euanstokes2828 CCP and PLA are very frank about their invasion plan if Taiwan doesn't agree what they want.
@@thornados4969 No, CCP and PLA has a plan if Taiwan doesn't agree what the Constitution of Republic of China (Official name of Taiwan) writes.
@@gluonmm CCP has no business with what ROC wants.
Culturally, I find Taiwan and Fujian culture to be very similar. Their accent sound similar too.
Most taiwanese came from southern Fujian. They are basically the same people.
and a wild fujianese here! XD
Most are... from there or guangdong province and other places in mainland
You're right
Enjoy your stay ，glad you're enjoying it
It's great to see you are capable of embracing different sides cause people especially nowadays staunchly stick to their own echo-chamber when it comes to contemporary issues of our time, take Brexit and people's view of magerat thatcher for example. Reality is much more nuance then the often black& white picture humanity perceived it as.
Absolutely! I think it is good to adjust as you explore new territory.
100% correct 👍👍👍
One day we will eventually be unified
已經等了七十年 你要來了嗎
Talking about night markets, I suggest you pay a visit to Changsha, Hunan province. Beijing has no night life outdoors, especially at winter time.
Thanks for the tips!
Taipei.... once a few blocks out of central CBD, the buildings are old..... like i'm back to the 80s then 70s then 50s the further i go.....
Because people aren't forced out and tear down to be rebuild.
@@Trust_but_Verify people or companies don't have money to redevelop those old buildings....
It doesn’t matter what the outside looks like. It’s what’s inside that counts. Our homes are nicely renovated with class, coolness and functionality for the most part.
@@fatdoi003 WIth the high price of units in Taipei, developers would love to buy out and build high rises to sell. Some people are comfortable with where they are.
Hi Sheku, thanks for another video, from this side of the screen Taiwan looks poorer than the mainland, and from my point of view, it is part of China, enjoy the cold, here in Liverpool; it is bloody cold too
It’s the fact , not “point of view
Agreed ✌✌ @@@weizhang2834
Your opinion is respected, mate. How are you enjoying the cold back home 😂
你需要確定你的說法是否正確
When China becomes the world's leading power-and it will-Taiwan will seemlesly integrate with Mainland because it will actually be prestigious to be associated with the Middle Kingdom. Already, mainland China is Taiwan's largest trading partner by far.
You can see the same happening with Hong Kong. China has invested a lot in infrastructure like High Speed Rail and Hong Kong-Zhuhai-Macau bridge which help with integration. Many Hong Kong people prefer to spend weekends and holidays in Shenzhen to shop, party and enjoy themselves. Same thing with Macau SAR.
Europe was once the place that was peaceful with very little to no crime I believe that China has very little crime and great progress at this time.
It’s quite new for me to see Taiwan area from a foreigner’s perspective 😂😂
Cute chicks btw xD
Something different is good lol😅
@@Alex_k_Qlol😅 yes
best video about Mainland and Taiwan province i have ever seen
注意 是中華人民共和國和中華民國
Every place has good and not good people. See for yourself is the best!
So much smog pollution in Taipei compared to other cities in China and if you're one of those people searching for homeless in China there are plenty in Taiwan
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Please mark Chinese subtitles! thank you
Btw plz don’t let Beijing give you a bad impression on food (night market-wise). 1. As the capital city of China, Beijing has more regulations and barely space for night markets; 2. Beijing is currently competing against Hangzhou for the title “food desert of China” on Chinese internet society.😂😂😂 so if you seek better street food / night market food, check out other 2nd tier cities😊
Wow, this is why I love the comment section because I get to learn things I am unclear about. I didn't know there was such a term for Beijing and Hangzhou 😅 thank you for sharing this. Noted 👍🏾
@@Shekumanstravel Beijing Fermented Bean Drink vs Hangzhou West Lake Vinegar Fish
哈哈哈哈，美食荒漠， 哈哈哈，这个名字太有趣了
@@onkycui 关键我个人还是倾向于杭州……
I think cantonese peoples are best with their food options which is like Guandong Guang xi shenzhen- they really know how to cook
Thanks for this great video. Subbed.
台湾看着真的像90年代的大陆，lol
时间如果有停留，就去台湾看看90年代的大陆。
Bourdain vibes.
What he says at around 26:30 is a flat out lie. English teachers (which is what he is in China) make between $2,000 to 3,000 U.S. in Taipei. A simple studio in Taipei will go for a little over 300, 5 or 600 will get you something pretty decent in Taipei, and even more space in Taichung or Kaohsiung. This guy doesn't know what he's talking about, and he didn't even live in Taiwan.
Nice to see a video from a different perspective, however, too many ads and felt they were excessive. Also too many wumao shills here in the comments.
I dunno why, but the thumbs up button is missing on my computer. I had to go on my phone to thumb up this video. Anyone else or just me?
I think some people trying to do bad things to my channel by restricting people from seeing videos. Sorry about this, mate. I have now changed my password 🔑 thanks for the support
Taiwan is an integral part of China 👍👍👍. The people in Taiwan are also Chinese 👍👍👍. Therefore, those non Chinese should not meddle in the Chinese affair. It's all Chinese affair and all non Chinese are outsiders and only nuisance.
Yup, those who claim that there are japonica can scramble back to japon.
How can you say that when the Taiwanese themselves dont think that?
This is like saying Americans are ethnic Anglo-Saxons and therefore we should perpetuate colonialism again, which is ironic, because China also suffered under colonialism but now it wants to play the same hand.
Really gives a real perspective of both China and Taiwan what's is it really like in both places. Just show how people in both places are just going about their life daily to make a living and make life better. Just like the rest of the people in the world. China is not evil as how the Western media portrayed and Taiwan is not oppressed as how media wants you to believed.
That depends on what you mean by "oppressed". If you mean that China is threatening to enact war, take possession of economic interests, conducting military exercises and skirmishes around the border, then Taiwan absolutely is "oppressed". If you think oppression must look like Taiwanese citizens living in constant fear, then I guess you wouldn't think so just judging by a UA-cam video.
@@jonathanchang1574 As a Taiwanese, I totally agree with you
很好理解，以前中国两个党，一个国民党，一个共产党，国民党内战输了逃到台湾，占领了那里，台湾那边国民党发展的比较早所以前期很富有，但是因为学习美国日本的政策学了一半，所以现在乱七八糟，中国大陆这边缓过来了并且摸着石头过河发展自己的模式，没有全搬西方那一套，好的吸收不好的丢掉，所以现在飞速发展。但是不管怎么说都是相同血统 两个党而已，都是中国人。
Thanks for sharing this piece of information mate
This is the truly rational channel that talk about the issue of China and Taiwan, it’s so much better than some stupid western morons talk some negative sh*ts about others and create some conflict between the two, I really think those kinds of bias channels are nothing but just some media garbage, I think your channel is the truly nice channel to spread the positive things and teach people the truly knowledges, keep do your thing bro
Awesome to see someone like you see my point of view! Much respect, mate
哈哈哈，老哥说这事只能疯狂叠甲😂😂😂
The reason why China forced unification of the country is simply to understand territorial sovereignty, not national unity. As long as Taiwan's territorial sovereignty still belongs to China, China has the right and obligation to unify Taiwan, which has nothing to do with whether Taiwanese people are Chinese or not.
If Taiwanese people are not Chinese 🇨🇳, and Taiwan's territorial sovereignty belongs to China, then non-Chinese Taiwanese people are invaders occupying Taiwan, and China should destroy Destroy the invaders and reclaim Taiwan. The basic principle that Chinese people 🇨🇳 are not against Chinese people 🇨🇳 is that the nationality of all ROC citizens is Chinese, and the nationality of ROC citizens 🇹🇼 in Taiwan is also is Chinese 🇨🇳.
Therefore, the principle of peaceful unification is that 🇨🇳 Chinese people are not against 🇨🇳 Chinese people. How difficult it is to be a Taiwanese person who is not Chinese🇨🇳 :
1. Renounce citizenship of the Republic of China🇹🇼.
2. Establishment of an independent Taiwan.
3. Abolish the Constitution of the Republic of China🇹🇼.
4. Building Taiwan's constitution.
5. Become a legal citizen of Taiwan.
6. Ask the Chinese people on both sides of the Taiwan Strait if they agree🤓
I completely see your points and honestly, I don't know too much about this hence why I didn't discuss this in the video. I don't want to put inaccurate information out there.
@@Shekumanstravel You are a wise person, knowing what to say and what not to say!🥰
China needs to get out of South China sea dispute. Not everything China says is theirs.
Chinese people in China has been brainwashed from early on that Taiwan belonged to China. Japan surrender Taiwan to ROC and never to CCP.
That is some absolutely blatant mental gymnastics there. You basically admitted that you are willing to completely ignore the wills of the Taiwanese people simply because you buy into an irridentist narrative of sovereignty.
Like seriously, Taiwan used to be legally Japanese territory, if it hadn't been handed back, would you say its rightfully theirs? If your answer is yes, your a blatant imperialist. If your answer is no, then you at least in principle believe that people should be able to determine what happens with their pwn communities, so why not allow Taiwan the same right?
The reality is whether Taiwan stays or goes, Chinese people wont be affected, and the fundamentally principle of democracy is that those who are affected get the final say.
love your videos. would love to see you in other colour thats not black.
😆thank man but black is my favourite colour 😆
Really, fashion advice? 😆 It's all good.
It would have been nice if freedom and justice were comparison topics in the video. Living in Taiwan, I can share my opinions without any fear. He also mentions a better work/life balance in China. That might be true for him, but it's not true for the factory workers at Shein that work 18 hours a day without weekends. I would not want to part of country that was controlled by a dictator. Even if I could live like royalty, I would not want live in North Korea, Russia, or China. Saying that foreigners should not get involved in local politics, is his way of turning a blind eye to the evilness of the CCP.
如果你去了解中國的媒體平台，就能發現他們也有反對政府政策和批評社會的言論，並且有許多支持者和反對者在評論區對罵。而在台灣，希望統一、認同中國的言論，只敢在同意自己的場所發表，否則就容易受到大量侮辱與攻擊。若忽略意識型態，希望自己國家是強大的有什麼錯呢？身為普通台灣人的我，只是害怕未知的變化對自己生活的影響。
If an American, Australian, Indian, or any other region that was once controlled by the English, wanted their country to be reunited with Britain again, they would be ridiculed and laughed at too. Taiwan has never been a part of the CCP, therefore, they can not claim that own it. It is the same as North Korea claiming they own South Korea. If someone from South Korea wanted to South Korea to be annexed by North Korea, he or she would be treated badly too.@@丁丁-h8e
How much money are you getting from Chinese government?
A lot.
Your comment about the Taiwanese parking officer on the 3:05 mark shows that you are full of prejudice against Chinese. That parking officer was merely doing his job; he is no different from those parking officers in other countries. If people park illegally, they deserve to be fined! Who are you to come to China (Taiwan) and start criticizing? Don’t come; stay away!
He said the officer was just doing his job right after making the observation of giving tickets left & right. I don't know what you're complaining about. Why are you so sensitive that even an observation is taken as a slight.
Unless you have been to every part of every country you can't know whether there are places where parking officers ignore illegally parked vehicles. It's merely a cultural difference that is bound to occur. Now if he had gone on to critise how it's wrong for the parking officer to be so strict, then & only then would you have a case.
Lighten up buddy. Every place has its pros & cons, and even the pros & cons are all relative to the observer.
you should mark or label your footage to distinguish between mainland and taiwan
I think that might be part of his point, if we can't tell the difference without having labels, what the heck are we doing telling that part of the world what's what.😅
The point is for people to understand that people here are just the same in this part of the world based on my observation.
@@Shekumanstravel thats an incredibly contentious goal. Throughout this video you have demonstrated many cultural similarities between China and Taiwan, but I dont think anyone in the pro-Taiwan camp is denying that the two are incredibly linked. You have addressed this topic in the most Chinese way possible - without actually asking a Taiwanese person how they see themselves.
Without addressing this fundamental question of identity it is impossible to understand why Taiwan wants independence. Because the way the Taiwanese see it is that no matter how spiritually and culturally connected China and Taiwan are whether Taiwan is governed independently and as a democracy or as part of Chinas has sincere, real world impacts.
I am really sorry but its hard to not see this video as politically motivated, especially when in the comments you have expressed your support for near-propagandistic ideas.
@@Shekumanstravel So do you think the Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg should belong to Germany because they are ethnically and culturally similar and they all speak German?
Chinas province and territory of Taiwan must remember that PLA will leave no stone unturned if it sticks to US imperialism and hegemony.Reunification with the motherland is a MUST!
China's claim is illegal and has no factual basis nor evidence to prove as Taiwan is in fact a sovereign country. Chinese and foreigners who believe China's illegal claim are stupidly ignorants.