Messerschmitt Me-262 - FHM Restoration Sneak Peek & Full Presentation
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- After 19 years of restoration, the Me-262 with Jumo 004 engines from the Flying Heritage Museum has been displayed for the first time at a closed event in Arlington, WA. This video covers the entire presentation from the staff and the Q&A session.
The aircraft is almost finished and will start flight testing at an unannounced date.
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00:00 - Event Intro
06:46 - Presentation Overview
12:00 - Aircraft History
23:04 - Air-frame Restoration
35:05 - Engine Restoration
49:57 - Test Pilot Introduction
59:19 - Q&A Session
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You might need to adjust the volume throughout the video because of the mic volume and outside noises. Time stamps are in the description!
Great work, I always wondered why there were no flying Stuka's. Glad you guys are on the case there too
Our first ever jet fighter. Sure it had it's flaws but back then this thing was a masterpiece
Principality of Belka
Ace Combat ww2 when
Ahh yes the greatest technology advancement at it's time, who knows what else you guys made in secret.
Who knows? Maybe the Ho-229
This thing is still a major threat to allied bombers back then
I'm playing Civ5 with only Strangereal nations and I'm nuking everyone with Belka :D
Can't wait to tell my son about this
Bruh
Ed Maloney saved the airframe from scrapping in 1955. R.I.P. Mr Maloney Thanks for saving this bird!!
Look at that beauty.
You lucky guy got to see it in person, that's awesome.
Thanks for posting!
Thanks to you for letting me know on Twitter, otherwise I wouldn’t have known of the event!
One of Germany's finest aircraft ever produced, still to this day the lines that this plane has is striking. Great work guy's outstanding. Its on my bucket lists. Cheers from Australia 🇦🇺
Me and the boys brings down bombers with four 30mm dakas
*DAK DAK DAK DAK DAK DAK*
i remember standing at the war museum in johannesburg as a child and just staring at this bird.. it was suspendid so you could walk under it. stunning to see.
Actually the British were also developing the Axiel flow engine as well. It's just that they knew that the centralfugal flow jet worked well and concentrated on that so that they could get a reliable fighter into production.
I didn’t know that an Me262 was being restored to flying condition. I am absolutely staggered that the restoration has original Jumo engines.
How lucky we are that people have the sheer determination and faith to spend colossal sums and decades of research and work in order that we might see history living again.
in 1992 there was a project to make a copy of a Me 262 from an existing plane , this was Me 262 b-1a wk/nr 110639, by Herbert Tischler at the Texas Airplane Factory, near Fort Worth but problems with the cost and time overruns it was transferred to Paine Field is Everett WA, there they build 5 copies, 4 in flying conditions and the other is display at the Evergreen Aviation Museum
This is currently the only WW2 vintage jet in flyable condition with ORIGINAL engines...
Genuinely impressive piece of engineering
The sound of those junker jumos running is going to be fabulous !
+Hugh Johnston They sound very good so far.
I had a unique opportunity about 12 years ago to sit in a REAL ME262. My Dad worked as a volunteer at the US Air Force Museum in Dayton, Ohio. Once a year they had an employee appreciation dinner & also opened up several planes that you can climb into. I noticed they actually had the ME262 canopy open so I climbed in, I was amazed at how few instruments were in it. That same night I sat in a P-38J Lighting, an SR71, a P-47 & the B-29 "Bocks Car" that dropped the A-bomb on Nagasaki. Quite the evening! (They don't do this anymore by the way).
Steve Hinton has to have the best job in the world. Whenever someone restorers a plane that any other example hasn’t been flown since WW2, they call Steve Hinton.
** THE ULTIMATE MASTERPIECE, EVEN *TODAY !!
Great job! Thank you very much for sharing! 👍👍👍
Thank you very very much for sharing this video. 🙏
It's absolutely beautiful I hope to see it fly
When the flu restrictions are lifted I will definitely be visiting the museum. Never thought I would ever see a ME-262 , to see one fly is fantastic.
D13 could be a very exiting avenue to pursue as this museum has a wonderful reputation of resurrecting the most imposible of aviation dreams .
+Hugh Johnston At least two D-9 projects were up for sale in the last 7 or 8 years and I wish the museum had grabbed one. The D-13 will probably never fly because it is one-of-a-kind.
@@FiveCentsPlease I read up a bit on the D13 A high altitude fighter derivative of the D-9 with a tuned up Jumo which was stonkingly over powered and produced so much torque on take off the pilot was forced to use some sort of automatic steering system which was not what really what it was designed for just to keep it straight down the run way. Oh now I see why this D13 will be better off as a hanger queen . The D-9 was a bit of a hand full "no doubt", but flying this is quite a risk for even the bravest. The Nazis were at this period so much under pressure and in many cases pushing the boat out with aircraft design and not as bothered as the FAA about flight safety . Yes the thing is better left in the hanger.
Woah no way. Thanks for posting this my man.
That was an amazing day
With this bird, Belka had once again had revolutionized air travel and air combat.
I was told that there are some of these in the old underground hangars under the Field Station Augsburg (Gablingen) in Germany. I found an access to the underground areas while stationed there in the mid 1980s but could never get in. Rumor had it that there were several aircraft left down there but most were in pieces and that the underground part of the base was extensive and several levels deep. The allies occupied the base and sealed up the underground areas for fear of booby traps and it is still there today. They built the huge 'elephant cage' (FLR-9) antenna right on the old airstrip. Wish I could have gotten inside there...
+KLOWn KiLLer Borehole cameras and robots could probably make quick work investigating any underground facilities with no risk to human lives and with very little disruption to the real estate that was paved over them after the war.
I love that museum
Red 8 has entered the chat as it’s the only surviving 2 seater version
+@jaymoney2112 "White 35" W.Nr.110639 at the US Naval Aviation Museum is an original two-seat trainer. ua-cam.com/video/a4n6Tf23gPE/v-deo.html
Best video you have ever made!
Thanks, and thanks to Hanz Von Ohain .... no disrespect to Frank Whittle but he came second...Invention under Patent Law must prove Utility!
Once again thanks from Christchurch New Zealand... Its on my bucket list to come and see this beautiful Aircraft and hopefully meet some of you!
Actually Frank Whittle was FOURTH... he didn't successful demonstrate a working jet aircraft engine until May 15th 1941.
¡Excelente trabajo! Lástima que no hayan subtítulos al castellano.
-Belkan- German technology at it's finest
Ooooo, pretty plane.
and i thought restoring an old 1958 flying scott 60hp outboard was a challenge lol
** LOOKS *FAST, JUST BY STANDING STILL !
hope you fixed the fuel throttling issues and not just the materials.
All first gen jet engines have manual fuel controls... including Allied jet engines.
Krupp P-198 Chromadur super alloy is still used today in manufacturing jet and gas turbine engines.
Wow
I was part of this restoration and it was a privilege
+ Eric Rosander I hope your hard work does take to the air eventually.
With the throttles they were so worried about flame out they just set them and left them for the whole flight until landing. Their only asset was speed so they just kept it high and did fast shooting passes. No tight turns or dog fighting. It was coming in to land they were most vulnerable.
The Messerschmitt Me-262 was highly maneuverable and an excellent turn radius at speeds over 450 mph... allied aircraft were too slow to engage it in a traditional dogfight.
All modern jet engines also have poor throttle response and sluggish acceleration from flight idle.
All aircraft are vulnerable to attack on short final in a low energy state.
Ah. A masterpiece of Belkan Technology, clearly shows how advanced they were at the time.
Good work :)
Me-262 for Ace Combat 8
I'm here to start the color argument lol . Is that true spec RLM-82 and 84 ?
Here we are in 2022 2 years after this video was done and since then the plane has taxi'd under it's own power. Any Idea when we might actually see this bird fly or is it just going to stay grounded. Thanks!
+ Tony Albany The museum is closed with no announcement on plans to reopen at this time. Paul Allen died from cancer and his fortune (Vulcan, Inc.) and his only heir have been shifting money, affecting multiple museums he sponsored. It was his wish for the museum to remain open but the accountants think differently.
Guys . . . I just noticed but . . . Next year is 2020 . . . The beggining of the Aurelian war! It would be REALY awesome is they add the Fenrir as a DLC on AC7 for that! With it's optical camouflage instead of flares and it's High-Powered Microwaves weapon from ACX! And i also miss the VTOL central engine from handled devices games (ACX, ACJA and ACXi) Maaaan that would be awesome!!!!! Of course the Optical Camouflagr should have some bad consequences on the way the craft fly, like lockink it's weapons, making the central engine to stop and lock (so less acceleration, top speed reduced and unable to use it's VTOL) and it could loose efficiency if used too long without removing it . . .
For Hitler defending instead of attacking was defeatism (Albert Speer).Thats why this plane was kept from doing what it did best for so long.
Guys the only ORIGINAL unmolested 262 is 'BLACK X' is in Australia. Original factory camo - right down to the scratched paint where the where the cannon shell cases were ejected (Wk No. 500200)
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/13/Me_262A-2a_AirMin_81_Werknummer_500200.jpg
+John Donaldson Most of the captured aircraft that were tested by the British and the US were painted several times. A restoration would sand through the paint layers and document what is found, which was done by the Smithsonian. This Me-262 restoration relied on original wartime photos to reproduce the new paint, including mis-matched panels.
I gata give the Krauts credit they did a hellava good job. Building the first jet fighter plane a Masterpiece.
Why would you bring a frikkin 3 yr old to this special occasion? Spent the whole time whining.
Are the cannons 30mm & originals? Are they working? & can they fire blanks?
+Urbn Geeze It is not legal to fly with operational original weapons. They would be disabled by some means, such as welding a small metal plug in the barrel or removing parts. I've only seen live fire permitted in New Zealand a few times.
With some better engines it could have given the Mig 15 and the Saber Jet a bad day.
thenks where You can see tudey
could not hear a thing they were saying.
It would interest me to know, you have rebuilt the original engines with the materials that were envisaged as this engine was designed, what are the output data, and the reliability data now? This Jumo engine was really the pinnacle of the then jet technology, if we had those materials then, the war might have taken a different route, thank heavens we lost. Our technology has helped the rest of the World since then.
+ David Markwort Aero Turbine in California rebuilt the Jumo engines and they spent 10 years on the research and construction, with some manufacturing support from other aerospace contractors. The engines were tested on the bench and issues were resolved as they occurred. Giving the museum's non-disclosure contracts I do not think that Aero Turbine published any performance figures. They did mention in one publication that they have estimated about 300 hrs TBO for the 004 engines they built.
The myth that the Jumo -004B engines were unreliable is a very popular one, but I is also completely false, The Me-262 was tested by the US Army during Operation Lusty after the war and confirmed TBOs averaged 55 hours, excellent by WW2 standards for the high output piston engines that were in common use during WW2.
Wow all that work that was put into it but has no intention on flying it.
+ scottnyc They were taxi testing to prepare for test flying when COVID suspended operations. This example will fly although it may be a while or with a new owner.
@@FiveCentsPlease cool hopefully we can eventually see it flying sometime
Does anyone know if the plan is still to fly it?
+@oxcart4172 The museum and collection has a new wealthy owner and it is just getting back into operation. I think they plan to begin some flying displays in 2024 and did say that projects will continue. But the museum has not made any specific announcements for the Me-262, and it will need some more ground testing and work before test flights.
@FiveCentsPlease
Thanks very much for the information. I heard a rumour that the new owner doesn't plan to fly the '262. I'm just hoping that it's wrong!
@@oxcart4172 Before Paul Allen died, there were mixed rumors that original plan for the Me-262 was to fly it a few times and then retire it permanently to the museum. None of that was ever confirmed. It would be nice to see it fly, although to be honest I'm more interested in seeing the Stuka completed. They also had a P-38 in progress and a CASA 2.111 coming together. Also they have a Fw-189 and B-17 in progress to fly and other projects.
Has this aircraft ever flown under it's own power? If not why not?
+@Lurgansahib Ground testing for the aircraft is not complete. The museum owner Paul Allen passed away and his sister did not honor his wishes and closed the museum. The museum has new owners and is opening again, but there are no announcements if work on the Me-262 will resume.
@@FiveCentsPlease Thank you. Let's hope something can be done to complete ground testing and get this wonderful bird back into the air. Good luck.
Chuck Yeager shoot this aircraft too
"These look ancient bombers".
Belkans using even older technology during Belkan War confirmed.
Can you play simple planes?
Adolf Galland used to fly one of those fighters at his time.
In the squadron of experts- JV-44
@@mladtheimpaler A nice piece of marketing for post-war literature. Many non-experts in JV44, and the unit flew a handful of times in April 1945, downing less than a dozen aircraft most likely. Its exploits were buttered up after WWII (especially the numbers of victory claims), but in reality JV-44 was a huge waste of resources that should have gone to the under strength but operational jet units like JG7 or KG(J)54.
@@colinkelly5420 it's quite fun to read about, especially on how the aircraft were aquired. Often just knocked straight from the factory.
Have you read his book, "The first and the last" outlining his return to operational flying after the so-called Fighter Pilots' Revolt, where he was sacked as general of fighters by Hermann Göring but later given command of "JV44" flying the Me 262.
But the spitfire is faster with its 150 American octanes they say it can break the sound barrier!
They say British astronauts flew supersonic Spitfires to the moon in 1943 too..
the allies knew material technology could not support axial flow turbine temps,, we invented the turbine steam engine,,, so whittle had to go another direction away from the steam turbine design that had been in use for 30 odd years,, the germans got it wrong,,, and engines had a really low hours life span,, where as the centrifical flow engines of that era are still flying today, its not as good technology but it produced reliable jet engines which the axis powers did not,,
Germany led the world in high temperature. creep resistant Super alloys.
Krupp P-193 Tinidur A60 was introduced in 1932 and the Jumo 004A was the most reliable jet engine made during WW2.
Centrifugal compressor turbojets are not only obsolete technology..
there are currently no other WW2 vintage jets aircraft in flyable condition with original Centrifugal engines, they have all been replaced with more modern versions.
Hoffentlich haben sie die Hakenkreuze nicht wieder draufgepinselt (so etwas braucht kein Mensch).
That camouflage paint job is terrible.
+R.R. "White 25" was captured with the squiggle camouflage, but notice the patchwork engine nacelles which were not reproduced in the restoration. The "Connie" script was painted on by Allied test pilots. silverhawkauthor.com/images/site_graphics/Aircraft/Axis/USA-WW444--Messerschmitt-Me-262A-01aU3---Wk--Nr--500453---White-25--Watsons-Whizzers-444--FE-4012--T2-4012--7-.jpg
I hate screaming kids
Without meaning to criticize those involved in this restoration - let alone their intent - I find the continuing fascination with Nazi technology, whose manufacture often relied upon slave labor, worrisome. (No need to flame me, folks!)
+ Created Eccentricities Similar efforts are being made to resurrect Japanese and Russian examples that have been missing since the end of the war. If an example or wreck is discovered, an interested collector or museum will obtain it for a project. But it is a different level of owner/collector that will fund a project to flying condition.
Britain has a far worse history of slavery, human rights abuse and mass genocide... and Britain has never been made to answer for its atrocities.