"People aren't honest" 🤬 Haskell says it's 'utter madness' Eddie Jones was sacked as England boss

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    Former England flanker James Haskell believes it's 'utter madness' Eddie Jones has been sacked as England head coach just nine months before the 2023 Rugby World Cup 🌹🏉
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 444

  • @MickJaggerr1
    @MickJaggerr1 Рік тому +191

    “Rugby is run by old school people “ pretty much the biggest problem with Rugby right now

    • @maxwellfan55
      @maxwellfan55 Рік тому +7

      Crap. They've been saying that for the past 50 years, through big wins and losses.

    • @jimsainsbury2514
      @jimsainsbury2514 Рік тому +1

      I like haskall but I completely agree with you

    • @johnlewis9745
      @johnlewis9745 Рік тому +3

      It used to be. But since the day it became professional those days are gone. Money talks and the demise of Worcester and Wasps proves that. If a coach doesn’t produce the goods, then someone new should be given the job.

    • @hunterluxton5976
      @hunterluxton5976 Рік тому

      English rugby you mean.

    • @pietbliksem
      @pietbliksem Рік тому +1

      Sorry can't agree with that. The old school are merely trying to cleave to the old amateur spirit of the game.The problem is the professional era. The stakes are infinitely higher than in the 'old school' days and manipulating results is a much more profitable enterprise than ever before.

  • @pietbliksem
    @pietbliksem Рік тому +101

    As a South African I can't help but feel sorry for Eddy Jones. He is an enormously good and successful coach with a track record that few can compare with. As a SA supporter I can admit of never being certain of the outcome of an England vs SA game as long as he's been coach. That includes the recent games up to and including Twickenham. Obviously he's not to blame for Englands form; especially against the top sides in the world. So why fire him now with the world cup looming? Is it because he's Aussie or is he just the most convenient scapegoat? The worst thing England can do now is to ditch Eddy Jones without someone better to replace him, and that's exactly what the RFU are doing.

    • @vernonrhoda8276
      @vernonrhoda8276 Рік тому +1

      I hear you but he has never had the upper hand in cup rugby against the boks. Just didn't. It aint the coach thats the problem, it's england are simply not world beaters. They are good, and a good day, who knows. Cup rugby requires you to be solid and consistent. I'm hopeful for the boks this cup, because it feels like there is a consistency building there...and showing. England needs to get a damn english coach. Need this to grow the culture etc. etc. Nothing wrong with eddie, good caoch forsure, but that final margins you need, he cannot provide as an ozzy.

    • @lanceelliott1145
      @lanceelliott1145 Рік тому +3

      Saffer here..England needs a 100% overhaul of their front rowers. Once that's sorted the backs will function again. Their weak forwards makes things difficult for the backs, they are stuck between a defensive and offensive mindset = confusion and sloppy play. Are the Wngland forwards carrying a bit too much muscle for their frames ? Being big is important but there's a fine line between carrying tio much bulk and carrying moderately lean mass like the Boks. In a 50 minute game Eng firwards might be ok, but not 80. The Bulls were like that a few years ago. Scariest, biggest guys but always faded in the second half. If Eng can't find fresh front rowers, maybe get them to drop a few and up cardio- opinion. Good luck England 👍🏻.Ps: Only Frans Malherbe can eat all he likes and still dominate.

    • @spiritdancer1699
      @spiritdancer1699 Рік тому +1

      You are without doubt the best team in the world right now.
      So we lost to the best team in the world big deal, I don't know why that is worthy of sacking him.

    • @westsideAUKILANI
      @westsideAUKILANI Рік тому

      England just bring who they are, arrogant pricks. I don't want any Southern Hemisphere coach to coach them ever again

    • @karlosdeevs
      @karlosdeevs Рік тому

      @@spiritdancer1699 doesn‘t seem that way tho, does it?

  • @carlaspinall7418
    @carlaspinall7418 Рік тому +52

    I'm in shock Eddie has gone I've bin a big fan of English 🏉 it's a shame

  • @kristianmitchell9723
    @kristianmitchell9723 Рік тому +63

    Can't believe they've sacked Eddie Jones. Really gutted to see him go. Deserved another crack at the world cup! Interesting opinion from Haskell "Pressure from fans and media" does sound right, because I can't comprehend why the RFU have done this.
    World cups on the horizon... Only 9 months to go 🏉🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

    • @paulchristopher8634
      @paulchristopher8634 Рік тому +8

      Results have not been good enough unfortunately

    • @maxwellfan55
      @maxwellfan55 Рік тому +6

      @@paulchristopher8634 Results have been more like ...shocking.

    • @michaelbuettner1487
      @michaelbuettner1487 Рік тому

      Rugby league is a better all round sport , union is just private school posh brats I refuse to watch it anyway

  • @paulbennett2929
    @paulbennett2929 Рік тому +24

    Well argued but unfortunately TV footage of England's matches since RWC 2019 exists.

    • @maxwellfan55
      @maxwellfan55 Рік тому +3

      Too right mate. It's been a disaster.

  • @stevenshaw6766
    @stevenshaw6766 Рік тому +17

    In all the years since rugby turned professional, the rest of the international teams have advanced and changed accordingly apart, from the RFU. James has hit the nail in the head by saying that the RFU is still being run by the old school tie brigade. To sack the head coach 9 months before a WC is madness.

  • @blaquenguni9249
    @blaquenguni9249 Рік тому +20

    As a South African I wanna agree with Haskell, BUT Eddie has ignored far too many inform/red hot premiershuo
    Premiership players.
    And the players he's been so loyal to are the ones who have been dreadful and uninspired.
    Had he picked 5-6 of the hottest players in the Premiership, the results might've still been poor, but you would've seen improvement every 5 tests they play

    • @2011hwalker
      @2011hwalker Рік тому +1

      100% correct. Haskell is so bias.

    • @thewomble1509
      @thewomble1509 Рік тому +1

      @@2011hwalker Biased.

    • @nickrad6966
      @nickrad6966 Рік тому

      Rassie is exactly the same…

    • @karlosdeevs
      @karlosdeevs Рік тому

      @@nickrad6966 totally

    • @franko2053
      @franko2053 Рік тому

      Nope England had an great chance in this world cup and Eddie knew that. He already had the team, he was just biding time. He didn't need to rebuild. So what, so England was't that hungry for W in between the world cup. But experience teams can lift their game when it counts and England only needs to do that for 3 games, of which they will most likely face Argentina, Wales and Australia with a tired opponent in the final.
      Ireland peaked too early again and France will need to beat SA, NZ or IRE consectuvely just to end up in the final.
      Borthwick is an Englishman that looks like he'll get the England squad to believe, add some dogged fighting spirit in the team so that they can grind out wins. So I can understand the RFU thinking, but it is a gamble to drop a tactical genius that historically excells in one off games. Essentially England need one great game like their 2019 semi-final but this one will be in the final. And they dropped the best guy for that. And will probably lose to Australia in the semi-final.

  • @reflectingtrees
    @reflectingtrees Рік тому +14

    Totally agree, it's madness.

  • @rook_wood
    @rook_wood Рік тому +68

    Haskell was given a last chance to play for England by Jones when his international career seemed over, so it's understandable that he has stayed grateful and loyal to him

    • @danielebowman
      @danielebowman Рік тому +19

      But also Haskell played superb Rigbu for Eddie Jones, which illustrates why he rates him.

    • @rook_wood
      @rook_wood Рік тому

      @@danielebowman Yes, he certainly has personal reasons for supporting Jones

    • @09hunterboy8
      @09hunterboy8 Рік тому +11

      @@rook_wood yeah and he is Englands most successful coach ever , been to two WC finals , won a WC as an assistant with SA , won a Super Rugby Tournament, beat SA with Japan … but England have a better coach at the moment 9 months before a WC lol

    • @rook_wood
      @rook_wood Рік тому +2

      @@09hunterboy8Yes, he definitely achieved impressive things up to the 2019 WC

    • @unclefester831
      @unclefester831 Рік тому +4

      @@09hunterboy8 Last time I checked it was Clive Woodward that won England’s sole rugby World Cup back in 2003. Nobody really cares about 2nd place. Michael Cheika took his nation to the final in 2015 but still came up short.

  • @scentrailstation1780
    @scentrailstation1780 Рік тому +19

    Eddies selections were simply bizarre in past few years. His winning stats were good prior to that

    • @maldarkangel
      @maldarkangel Рік тому

      He was experimenting ...

    • @scentrailstation1780
      @scentrailstation1780 Рік тому

      @@maldarkangel What by picking golden oldies? He didnt experiment enough. He needed to build a new team but got stuck picking the same old players past their best. Youngs, May, Vunipolas etc

  • @williamhauser3686
    @williamhauser3686 Рік тому +72

    Haskel makes some great points, and I have a ton of respect for Jones and all he accomplished. But, it was time to move on. It's like he never recovered from the 2019 world cup loss and it's been a downward trajectory ever since. I wish Eddie Jones the best and am grateful for all he gave us. Thank you.

  • @themanabroad7800
    @themanabroad7800 Рік тому +8

    I always like Eddie, love Hask and thought he summed this up really well, didn’t mince his words which is why I like him.

  • @mgbdub2007
    @mgbdub2007 Рік тому +19

    Totally Tone deaf by Haskell. The vast majority of fans just want England to play well and be competitive in EVERY game. Not just for a few weeks every 4 years.

  • @AC-hu3xk
    @AC-hu3xk Рік тому +4

    As a South African fan , I must say brilliantly spoken James wow!! 100 % agree..

  • @tigerclarence1248
    @tigerclarence1248 Рік тому +5

    Don’t agree with Haskell saying there was nothing wrong with the team I was at twickers for 3 of the 4 autumn internationals and the rugby was boring and predictable, plus I watch Marcus smith play fast go forward rugby with harlequins which he’s not aloud to do with England I like Eddie Jones but it was definitely time for a change

  • @MrGJCURRAN
    @MrGJCURRAN Рік тому +3

    Well said, James. Exactly right. We had a similar run-up to the WC in 2018, and it all pretty much panned out well.

  • @Mike-ym6rl
    @Mike-ym6rl Рік тому +4

    As a Saffa, I feel firing of Eddie Jones is the most ridiculous and devastating decision that could happen to the England team. Ten months before the RWC changes of this magnitude are made!? There are people of influence out there who have no idea the amount of work and organization that goes into building an international squad. If Eddie should decide to head the Australian squad, beware RWC 2023, as they are on a roll.

    • @maverick4177
      @maverick4177 Рік тому

      Don’t you worry Sout Piel, England won’t be going anywhere
      You need to worry about your SA ageing dinosaurs and a hopeless coach

  • @willempretorius6700
    @willempretorius6700 Рік тому +38

    As a Springbok Fan I'm delighted. This effectively take England out of the RWC 2023 as a serious contender. England was dangerous under Eddie. Yes he was erratic, but he was always up to creating big upsets when it counted. Imagine Rassie Erasmus hire him for that RWC 2023 campaign....

    • @MiniMatthew
      @MiniMatthew Рік тому +4

      I'm gutted he's gone considering how on paper easy englands pool stages are :/

    • @nikpawlowski3610
      @nikpawlowski3610 Рік тому +3

      As an English rugby fan I am delighted. Jones thinks Owen Farrell is a centre! Haha

    • @headintheclouds6935
      @headintheclouds6935 Рік тому +1

      @@nikpawlowski3610 he went at undefeated at centre for the lions in 2017. He clearly played well there

    • @nikpawlowski3610
      @nikpawlowski3610 Рік тому

      He played fly half in the first test, but was also surrounded by a good some world class players, unlike England at the moment.! Jones has almost ruined Farrell international career, by playing him out of position. No other international side would he make centre I doubt.

    • @cullyx2913
      @cullyx2913 Рік тому

      💯

  • @BelloBudo007
    @BelloBudo007 Рік тому +7

    As an Aussie Rugby supporter, please allow me to say 'Thank you England'.

    • @gwh3013
      @gwh3013 Рік тому

      How's it going skippy?

    • @BelloBudo007
      @BelloBudo007 Рік тому +1

      @@gwh3013 Entertaining mate. Entertaining.

    • @manonthebike2205
      @manonthebike2205 Рік тому

      ​@@BelloBudo007And last night was - entertaining? Good luck having him. Whatever coach any country has, I love watching great games (of rugby!). It's just that some coaches make it a challenge for their players, and as many have said throughout the comments and replies to this video, I'm sure that there are plenty of players who balance that. Looking forward to this year's WC, bring it on. Go well.

    • @garyambrosini1427
      @garyambrosini1427 5 місяців тому

      ​@@BelloBudo007 as an England rugby fan, please allow me to say hahahahaha

    • @BelloBudo007
      @BelloBudo007 5 місяців тому

      @@garyambrosini1427 Permission granted.

  • @mattmarchant8931
    @mattmarchant8931 Рік тому +5

    At least, someone who talks sense. Love James Haskell

  • @garethjenkins1403
    @garethjenkins1403 Рік тому +3

    Common sense is cheap but worth a great deal. Well said. Years ago whilst on a ski holiday with a group from an English rugby club who watched a home nations game against Scotland. After England lost the English supporters went from delusional 'we are expecting all' to walking out early from the game and turning on the England team at the drop of a hat. It's not a criticism just an observation. After chatting with them they acknowledged it and put it down to living in the moment rather than living in the history of the game no matter what come what may. To be honest I'd say why not. Fair weather as Haskell says but no bother, less stress, fun times and longer lives. You could of been Welsh and suffering Pivac demolishing your heritage. Count your blessings 🤣

  • @tonymatthews6928
    @tonymatthews6928 Рік тому +1

    Wow! Never heard him comment before. This is a well-informed well-argued postion. This bloke shold be running the RFU!

  • @barrysheridan9186
    @barrysheridan9186 Рік тому +4

    As an England fan since the early 1960's I must say I am surprised Eddie Jones has been sacked. I thought he has done well, even if latterly the team seem to have gone off the boil. Not sure if that all can be Eddie's fault.

  • @davidfarrell2254
    @davidfarrell2254 Рік тому +9

    Hask speaking some truths - good man

  • @rickphillips5098
    @rickphillips5098 Рік тому +2

    One thing you just smashed is the fans at Twickenham!! You need a loan to go for a day out ! You have to have a mate to get a ticket for a decent seat ! Those 2 young lady's on dates with there prospective boyfriends ( in front off me ) did not even acknowledge there was a game going on ! Nor did the prospective husbands! I know ist supply and demand! Sadly 2 tickets to watch Argentina 2x£115 plus 2 x£80 ( train fair ) 2x £14 ( burger and drink) . Without anything else !! Is why Twickenham will have no heart !! Its now for the rich only ... Best the England rugby team get used to playing at home with those that are only there to tell there freinds what they did at the weekend 🙄.

    • @coniferclose
      @coniferclose Рік тому

      Great comment, couldn’t agree with you more.👏🏻👏🏻

  • @jayaychare7318
    @jayaychare7318 Рік тому +4

    Firstly I would like to say it’s great news that Haskell has emerged from his coma of 2 years with full speech . But things have changed on England rugby front and he needs to watch back the last few years footage
    Jones shock win for Japan v SA has no bearing on this England team. It’s all about current form and last two years have been guff alongside some questionable team selections
    Scotland will be gutted . They’ve never had a better run of form v England

  • @roykyme5558
    @roykyme5558 Рік тому +1

    And for the last four years England have gone absolutely now where ,terribly to watch this doesn't seem to be a coach who is moving the team forward.

  • @Ray67456
    @Ray67456 Рік тому +1

    This didn't age well.

  • @manonthebike2205
    @manonthebike2205 Рік тому +13

    Excellent analysis and summary. I think it was NZ coach Steve Hansen (pls correct me if I'm wrong) who said something along the lines of "if [as a player - All Black] you listen to the fans, you're destined to join them in the stands". Great interview thanks.

    • @nikpawlowski3610
      @nikpawlowski3610 Рік тому

      Jones had more talent at his disposal, although a lot of said talent played one test or so. The riches union behind him. Please no excuses.
      He sacked, or bullied some of the best coaches, in rugby. So many that he’s run out of world class coaches. No sympathy.

    • @nikpawlowski3610
      @nikpawlowski3610 Рік тому

      NZ should have him 😂

    • @manonthebike2205
      @manonthebike2205 Рік тому

      @@nikpawlowski3610 You should limit your generosity.

    • @DominoEffect2528
      @DominoEffect2528 Рік тому

      Well he definitely didn't listen to the fans and he's in the stands.

    • @thebossman4875
      @thebossman4875 Рік тому +1

      Nah that was Wayne Bennett

  • @simonhague2674
    @simonhague2674 Рік тому +3

    Good interview, I agree, Eddie's a very good coach but performances have been poor for at least two years, his selections continue to puzzle everyone but Haskell makes the point well that his biggest problem is that he's been unable to retain coaching talent and now with the ongoing turnover, can't attract the right people to work with him - IMO you just have to look at Smith and Farrell - Neither of them play anything like as well for England as they do for their clubs and a coaches main job is to get the best out of the talent available to him... in this Eddie has failed. Sorting out the RFU is a much bigger issue...

  • @jeremysmith8894
    @jeremysmith8894 Рік тому +2

    Haskell would say this, Jones backed him
    massively at the end of his playing career and got him
    playing his only period of effective international rugby. If he couldn’t see the deteriorating team over the last 2 years, Haskell ceases to become a relevant commentator. “Biased journalists “ and “grumpy fans”?? Do us a favour James and get back to your mirror!!

  • @ThePereubu1710
    @ThePereubu1710 Рік тому +1

    "Just because some grumpy old journalists and some miserable fans decided to get rid of him" - No Mr. Haskell, just because of some terrible selection choices, questionable tactical decisions, self-parody press conferences, a complete lack of genuine contrition and no signs of improvement (as distinct from, for example, Ian Foster and New Zealand). That's why.
    Eddie Jones has a particular skill which is to develop teams. What he is not capable of is sustaining that over the long term. Whether it's his management style which, over time, has a negative effect or whether it's his unwillingness to listen to anyone else, I can't say but it's clear from the last 2 years that England, led by Jones, is not the same quality team that won the World Cup semi-final in 2019.

  • @philmckinley696
    @philmckinley696 Рік тому +4

    James I could get a 90% winning record with the 35 squad players we have. I paid good money to watch the last three games and there was no game plan and the performance was lack lustre. He was past his sell by date. I would agree with you as there is no one to take his place.

    • @2011hwalker
      @2011hwalker Рік тому +1

      totally true. Why has Haskell has avoided the truth england have looked poor in successive 6Ns.

  • @mauricerobertson1944
    @mauricerobertson1944 Рік тому +5

    Eddie Jones will be on the coaching staff for South Africa during 2023 World Cup.

    • @kingkongsson1
      @kingkongsson1 Рік тому

      The coaching staff yes but not the main coach , there's a big difference. Jones has brought England nothing since world cup . No evolution . What I've seen is when he takes over he makes a huge positive influence for a couple of years , after that he seems to struggle. Maybe he's best at part of the coaching staff like with South Africa, who knows .
      His player picks are the other issue. Farrell is not a world class centre , not fast nor powerful in that position put with a past his prime tuilagi who may pull out a performance every now and again , it's not good enough .
      Billy v another past his best still being picked when we have some serious quality no.8s not being given.much of a chance. Mako can't scrummage against the very best , marler is the one to pick v south Africa etc etc etc. Since that world cup loss he changed, wanting to play more like South Africa, we haven't the players to play that way . The boks are from a gene pool all of there own lol that's why they're so good at what they do.

  • @domsmith5065
    @domsmith5065 Рік тому +1

    As rambling and confused a monologue as I expected from Haskell.
    JH says “I’m at a loss as to why they’ve done it”. Really? Post 2019 WC England have been all over the place. Eddie’s burned through dozens of coaches and so many players it’s remarkable. It’s a mess.
    Haskell was part of an England team at rock bottom who completely bought into Jones’ style. But governing like that for six years seems to have taken its toll on a lot of players involved with Eddie. Just look at the calibre of players going to France right now…

  • @emgee_eegme
    @emgee_eegme Рік тому +12

    At no point in this diatribe does Haskell talk about the garbage Jones's England rugby team have been churning out for the last two years - while mostly losing. If the selections and performances were positive but England were still losing then people would have given Jones time but the performances are terrible and he's not picking players in form. It's diabolical. Haskell was a very limited player and he's got a very limited intellect, Jones had him in the palm of his hand, no wonder he's a Jones shill.

  • @coniferclose
    @coniferclose Рік тому +1

    If I was paying £135 + for a ticket I would want to see top class rugby. Thankfully I stopped going a while I go. Top price for standard rugby in my opinion and results back that up.

  • @dc9102
    @dc9102 Рік тому +1

    Tell it like it is James.

  • @phil1edinburgh
    @phil1edinburgh Рік тому +2

    But Jones has used tons of players, got rid of players suddenly, and lost 7/12 last manages. As for 6 nations he has been recently terrible .

  • @christopherhindle1174
    @christopherhindle1174 Рік тому +1

    James Haskell did not address the issue of why so many assistant coaches have left, presumably because they could not work with EJ? The players have no choice, if they want to be selected, they just have to keep their mouths shut and do as they are told, often seemingly implementing a game plan that does not suit their talents or what they see in front of them as a game progresses.

  • @iqosuser2754
    @iqosuser2754 Рік тому +2

    Haskell you the greatest. Big fan of your opinions.

  • @ryantill8717
    @ryantill8717 Рік тому +1

    Blaming one guy who's track record is impeccable for the down fall of a team 🤦‍♂️

  • @seanyshepfit
    @seanyshepfit Рік тому +2

    Eddie didn't fit into the English system. He spoke his mind and didn't back down. That's it.

  • @rorykeegan1895
    @rorykeegan1895 Рік тому +1

    Gotta agree with Mr Haskell

  • @wjhd6823
    @wjhd6823 Рік тому +2

    Should have said all this BEFORE he was sacked really shouldn't you Hask?

  • @roscokillian
    @roscokillian Рік тому +1

    Haskell just said at the end that Borthwick will “come in and will absolutely take them on and this will be a catalyst for England to get better.” Yeah thats right, Jones has lost the dressing room. As an Irish fan I’m very disappointed that Eddie was sacked, we would have turned over England again in the six nations under Eddie Jones. Now we have to wait and see what England is like under new management, maybe as Haskell says they will be better! Bring back Eddie

    • @karlosdeevs
      @karlosdeevs Рік тому

      exactly, Eddie was arguably the best thing to happen to Ireland

  • @johntrew1597
    @johntrew1597 Рік тому +1

    Spot on . Removing Jones by the RFU is stunningly stupid & we can kiss goodbye to any WC chances now. Madness, madness.

    • @DominoEffect2528
      @DominoEffect2528 Рік тому

      Why, because England got completely dismantled by SA at home. Why would that result be any different in a WC?

  • @liamhandcoaching
    @liamhandcoaching Рік тому +1

    Although I credit Eddie Jones for the first 2 years and the World Cup performance, he's lucky that he wasn't sacked earlier. The results and performances simply haven't been acceptable given the huge resources at his disposal. It's nothing to do with him not conforming. Haskell is playing down how poor the last 12 months have been on the field. There have been no signs of progress at all.

    • @karlosdeevs
      @karlosdeevs Рік тому +1

      Yeah, he could‘ve been sacked after Ireland trounced England to win the grand slam in 2018. They‘d just lost 4 on the bounce and would go on to lose 2 more straight after.. And again after the 2021 & 2022 6N where they only barely scraped 3 wins from 5. It had been pitiful for a good while..

    • @liamhandcoaching
      @liamhandcoaching Рік тому

      @@karlosdeevs very true, 2018 was abysmal. Two awful results against Scotland at home in the last few years as well, including the first defeat to them at Twickenham for 40 odd years

  • @andrewmcarthur1009
    @andrewmcarthur1009 Рік тому +1

    Madness and Numptys is the only description you can have off the RFU. GET THEM OUT. Before they more damage.

  • @hammerhiem75
    @hammerhiem75 Рік тому +7

    4 of the 6 coaches that Hask mentioned as high quality, learnt their trade from a man who's in the Premiership and is Nine wins from Nine
    Mark McCall is a way better coach that Borthwick.
    As a Sarries fan i'm really glad he gets ignored by the British Press.

    • @MichaeldeSousaCruz
      @MichaeldeSousaCruz Рік тому

      Easy to be great when the owner cheats 🤷‍♂️

    • @AJP-kf7wq
      @AJP-kf7wq Рік тому

      @@MichaeldeSousaCruz as i understand things, most clubs bend the rules so careful what you say, look at Wasps and Worcester for how bad things can turn out without an owner who actually cares about the club

    • @MichaeldeSousaCruz
      @MichaeldeSousaCruz Рік тому

      @@AJP-kf7wq you think cheating is caring? Huh?

    • @AJP-kf7wq
      @AJP-kf7wq Рік тому

      @@MichaeldeSousaCruz what i said is that most clubs are bending the rules, some owners because they care about the club and its staff and some, dont and want as much out as possible

    • @MichaeldeSousaCruz
      @MichaeldeSousaCruz Рік тому

      @@AJP-kf7wq you’re still advocating cheating as caring. Strange

  • @lestrem11
    @lestrem11 Рік тому +1

    No consistency of selection or tactics. He completely lost the plot over the last couple of years.

  • @andrewcavenagh9016
    @andrewcavenagh9016 Рік тому +1

    England made no progress under Jones since the 2019 WC final. Stayed loyal to favourites whose form had fallen away, and he was too stubborn to change.

  • @mrcmaths4613
    @mrcmaths4613 Рік тому +3

    Unfortunately Hask the performance against the Boks was so abject that he had to go because the players were not singing from the same hymn sheet. The players did not look happy. Maybe Jones wanted them to play badly so the next time the Boks play us they underestimate us?! Who knows.

  • @davidmccrudden4193
    @davidmccrudden4193 Рік тому +1

    Absolutely! With EJ still in charge England would be one less contender for the rest of us to worry about!

  • @jameslong7128
    @jameslong7128 Рік тому +1

    This aged well Jimmy my boy. Still think it was madness?

  • @fruitychink
    @fruitychink Рік тому +1

    Absolutely correct Mr Haskell . England are a good well coached side who were beaten narrowly by teams of the same calibre . Being beaten by Scotland is not a biggie because we play out of our skin when playing England , I think England have made a huge mistake . Jones is not perfect but he has done a huge job with England . I hope we can have a competitive 6 Nations .

  • @darthmong7196
    @darthmong7196 Рік тому +4

    He's bang on. Utter madness.

  • @talentfinder575
    @talentfinder575 Рік тому +1

    Totally agree, utterly bonkers. Fair play that SA Rugby has kept Rassie even with all the negative media.

    • @karlosdeevs
      @karlosdeevs Рік тому

      That‘s a completely different scenario. Erasmus was never under that kind of pressure at home. But don‘t worry, he will be if SA can‘t make the last 4 at the WC

  • @debskeith
    @debskeith Рік тому +1

    I have a lot of time for James Haskell but he’s so wrong with this one

  • @kjb6637
    @kjb6637 Рік тому +5

    Love Eddie or hate him, this is a stupid move by RFU 3 months from the 6Nations (let alone 9 months from the RWC). Borthwick would be good though, met him in Japan. Seems like the only man for the job 9 months out - he knows the team, he’s been working with it closely and I wouldn’t be surprised if he uses the Eddie playbook to give us a fighting chance…

  • @gavahern
    @gavahern Рік тому +2

    Haskell covering all his bases there. Terrible decision yet everyone mentioned is great 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

  • @patrickleonard315
    @patrickleonard315 Рік тому +1

    He got sacked because England have been crap since the World Cup not because of fans

  • @Mikey1993ish
    @Mikey1993ish Рік тому

    Finally! I'm pleased that someone has said this.

  • @jakehowie442
    @jakehowie442 Рік тому

    James’ Twickenham prawn sandwich brigade comment was pretty accurate, though they are more into gin n tonics and ciders nowadays. They come to Twickenham more for drinking and chatting, than watching the rugby, supporting the team.

  • @gerardglines2566
    @gerardglines2566 Рік тому +1

    I disagree constantly playing players out of Positions .He is losing games because of lack of speed size age knowledge that adjusting to playing players on the field out of position takes time .WE are both back nO 8 row players aware of the fly half being over used unable to combine backs with forwards destroying when two are on the pitch the wingers ability to run with the ball and the pack with useless kicking .So neither forwards or backs get to have a say on the field except defended behind the gain line when its too late to be any use .

  • @insertgenericusernamehere2402

    I'm a rugby league fan, I always see that England do well.. When I heard the dude was sacked potentially for a league player was wild.

  • @dandan4092
    @dandan4092 Рік тому +3

    Chose a great thumbnail lmao

  • @thewielloyd988
    @thewielloyd988 Рік тому

    I was totally with Hask until he said "I was actually in Dubai DJing the last couple of days"

  • @karltaylor2857
    @karltaylor2857 Рік тому

    Yeah I have to agree. Whether you like him or not its madness sacking him now...poor timing.

  • @lestrem11
    @lestrem11 Рік тому +1

    If he was so good, why did we keep losing matches over the last couple of years?

  • @Hgh_hhb
    @Hgh_hhb Рік тому +2

    David Brent vibes here from Haskell

  • @CD-up6pu
    @CD-up6pu Рік тому

    Haskell is bang on here.
    The whole thing is bonkers.
    What are they thinking!?
    Timing is absolutely shocking along with the decision.
    How the world is now ruled by the distant keyboard warriors and clueless media who just love to chat worthless, clueless rubbish.
    What a shame.

  • @charlespirate1
    @charlespirate1 Рік тому

    Even a stopped clock tells the right time twice a day

  • @ThomasDoubting5
    @ThomasDoubting5 Рік тому

    Revelations ahoy... People aren't honest? Really? My reality has fallen apart.

  • @st2505
    @st2505 Рік тому +1

    Eddie jones took England as far as he could, but needed to walk away after World Cup…. Change was needed for sure …

  • @alexandersmailwoodford2480
    @alexandersmailwoodford2480 Рік тому

    I did enjoy Eddie Jones but as far as I’m aware, even though he is still the best winning coach in history, I believe the stats were 89% before the World Cup and then 60% since the WC.
    I do think there was an intangible spark that wasn’t there since the WC. Coaches have an era and then systems get found out! Happened to Ireland in 2018/19, happens to NZ in the 2019 and it happens to England.

  • @jeremyreid9582
    @jeremyreid9582 Рік тому

    As a South African, this looks sadly very familiar !!!!
    My condolences and best wishes.

  • @hermanvisser4034
    @hermanvisser4034 Рік тому

    James, you are spot on. Eddie got ousted because he stood up to the toxic British press. The fans were poisoned by said press. All international coaches respect Eddie Jones. (From a Springbok supporter).

  • @at7512
    @at7512 Рік тому +3

    Haskell.. never heard of her.

  • @ProTantoQuid
    @ProTantoQuid Рік тому

    This interview is full of energy; and hot air. Looked at from a different perspective, and much of it is clear nonsense. Why should we believe that JH knows what "most rugby fans" feel about EJ? Why would it be invalid to ignore the continuing lack of success (4 Six Nations wins in 2 years), diminishing penetration (8 tries in 2022), selection of out-of-form old favourites, non-selection of in-form talented players, the employment of coaches whom JH describes as por, etc. If JH were able to detach his personal feelings from an evaluation of the latter part of EJ's England career,it would be more valuable. Incidentally, I think it mad to dsmiss a coach and appoint another this close to the World Cup.

  • @philipmccarthy6175
    @philipmccarthy6175 Рік тому +1

    Poor timing but inevitable. Has any rugby pundit stopped to consider the possibility that at the end of the day that this current crop of England players doesn't contain enough world class players ? I keep reading that Smith & Farrell , Itoje are world class but their form of late suggests otherwise. Itoje has been world class but his form of late hasn't been. If Farrell isn't starting at 10 he's certainly not an international class 12. The premiership is behind the top 14 & since the addition of the South African sides the URC too. Time for a reality check.

  • @fatman4346
    @fatman4346 Рік тому +1

    I think it's right jones was sacked.
    England were going backwards but also the style was just awful to watch,and when the crowd turns on you then its very hard.
    Final straw was the South Africa match.england were not even in the game ,Twickenham is the home of England it's just humiliating.worst thing is that it wasn't even south Africa strongest team.

  • @chrisevans9456
    @chrisevans9456 Рік тому +9

    Haskell is spot on

  • @dulls8475
    @dulls8475 Рік тому +2

    72% win rate....

  • @iqosuser2754
    @iqosuser2754 Рік тому +1

    BTW I'm not an England fan !!! My favorite team is Wales then Boks. But I do feel this was mutiny of the bounty. Any coach that thrashed ABs in world cup gets my vote. Eddie Aus needs you!!!!! From Rugby fan of all nation. Strongs !!!

  • @ricky18171
    @ricky18171 Рік тому +2

    England have underperformed in World Cups for donkeys years but with Eddie there was always a chance. I did feel like he was struggling to get the best out of these players but don’t sack him 9 months before the WC 😅
    I wish the best of luck to his successor but they are going to need a miracle.

    • @EasyTiger.01343
      @EasyTiger.01343 Рік тому

      Since England won in 2003, SA and NZ have each won two WC Finals (the second SA Final was against England). So, looking at the actual facts, England have performed pretty well at the WC compared to ALL teams bar NZ and SA. I don’t dispute that EJ had his day as an England coach, but the trajectory was definitely headed downwards.

  • @matthewbennettyoung1994
    @matthewbennettyoung1994 Рік тому +6

    I woke up at 2am last night wondering...about all the careers/players that EJ has inhibited. The chaos his dictatorship has caused. All those players and pretty much anyone in the prem will now have hope of breaking into the WC squad. This could be a real renaissance if it's managed in the right way. Hopefully Steve B will have 'learned' from EJ's mistakes and will develop something progressive with INTEGRITY a la Fabien Gaultier/Andy Farrell. Something lasting is what the English fans want. AND SO DO THE PLAYERS! Let's not forget them in all this! Haskell hasn't got a clue. Just a big gob. 73% success rate is just a stat without a soul. Means nothing.

  • @christopherduncan1552
    @christopherduncan1552 Рік тому +2

    Mr Haskell seems to have overlooked the fact that, given the ticket prices, Twickenham fans they have a right to expect to be entertained, preferably by a victory for the home team. England's performances were dull, lacked flair, imagination, and endeavour. This surely can only be a coaching issue and it is not good for the sport we (try to) love.

  • @robertevason6579
    @robertevason6579 Рік тому

    Agreed absolute madness agreed eddie needs to see it through

  • @Nattherat64
    @Nattherat64 Рік тому +1

    He had a plan, Squidge Rugby was explaining that in his videos. He was building something better for England. What have you done?

  • @doppies2000
    @doppies2000 Рік тому +2

    Haskell is talking pish !
    the Buck stops with the Head Coach !
    he failed miserably !
    only thing wrong with EJ's sacking is the timing of it.
    should have been replaced after the RWC !
    and saying that he was the most successful(English) Coach is deceptive and deflective.
    he was nowhere near the Top in the last two 6 Nations ! 5th and a very lucky 3rd just isn't good enough !
    and ending 2nd best in the RWC is also simply not good enough !

  • @avishjhugroo2473
    @avishjhugroo2473 Рік тому +1

    James has no filters😂

  • @campbelltribe
    @campbelltribe Рік тому

    Being booed off is because the fans paid a lot of money to watch their team win (or at least try) not to see them practice for a game they won't watch in 12 months time. Hands off Borthwick and Sinfield.

  • @derekreed6798
    @derekreed6798 Рік тому

    Scott Wisemantel was the coach you forgot the name of. We never seem to get a balanced backrow and our centres never seem to worked out..why is that? The best game we played..Eng vs NZ worldcup semi.

  • @ifgfqageneration6939
    @ifgfqageneration6939 Рік тому +1

    He plays it very safe most of the time....

    • @karlosdeevs
      @karlosdeevs Рік тому

      ahahaha🤣🤣🤣 too funny..

  • @murraysmith595
    @murraysmith595 Рік тому

    So the new coach will have 6 odd games before the world cup. Madness 🤣🤣

  • @contrarian717
    @contrarian717 Рік тому +1

    Well said. Agreed.

  • @alexvantee6938
    @alexvantee6938 Рік тому

    Glad someone has the stones ( or independency )to say how it is. And that from someone who's not an England fan .

  • @edwardhodgson3994
    @edwardhodgson3994 Рік тому +1

    Great points there Hask.

  • @rugbydaydreamin
    @rugbydaydreamin Рік тому

    It should be pretty easy for England to repeat their 2015 campaign now.

    • @karlosdeevs
      @karlosdeevs Рік тому

      Naw, had Jones stayed it would‘ve been likelier..